guiverci see issues above ^ :(  but all https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ were clean (haven't done 3 secure-boot; looking at the 'ultracrap' again to see if I can reset that on, but couldn't find how last time..)00:12
wxli can't believe you knocked all those out!!!!!!00:12
wxlwho's got a secure boot machine with efi?00:13
wxlguiverc tell me the specs of your machine and i'll see if i can't find the solution for you (dmidecode might help)00:13
guivercit's not mine; which is why I've sorta been careful.. but i may have just got it (reset all to defaults) - so I maybe able to last three :)  thanks wxl 00:14
wxlok THANK YOU00:15
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tsimonq2Dinner time. I'll be back to polish more.00:29
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wxloh @tsimonq2 you forgot to fix the spelling of Trojitá00:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Aww maaan00:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok00:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *grammar nazi spotted*00:31
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> For the blog, I hope so00:32
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker just to be clear, that's NOT me, that's boo boo head over there00:32
* wxl points to tsimonq2 00:32
wxlhe can take his oxford command and stick it00:32
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> I think you should be quiet, sit down, and learn some proper english00:33
lubot* UniversalSuperBox runs away00:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Woah! Calm down wcl00:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *wxl00:33
wxlyeah ok, i mean maybe boo boo head was too harsh00:33
lubot<kc2bez> Hmmm00:34
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *hands a plate of poha to wxl to calm him down*00:34
wxldan XD00:34
lubot<kc2bez> XD00:34
guivercthe sony ultracrap "Secure boot failed  Your VAIO has detected an invalid operating system.."  Maybe it's just my settings.. but someone who's installed uefi before may need to check an install works.00:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> yeah ok, i mean maybe boo boo head was too harsh], Love you too, dumbass00:34
lubot<tsimonq2> I MEAN00:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Smartass00:34
lubot<tsimonq2> I MEAN00:35
lubot<tsimonq2> hi00:35
wxlMUCH BANS00:35
lubot<tsimonq2> XD00:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc [<guiverc> the sony ultracrap "Secure boot failed  Your VAIO has detected an inva …], I will do it. If it's not urgent.00:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Will do it tonight00:35
wxlew you didn't say it was a vaio guiverc my condolences00:35
guivercwxl - none needed - it's not mine (otherwise I'd have thrown it thru a window well ebfore now)00:36
lubot<kc2bez> Fighting with my Dell right now.00:36
wxlsony = masters of proprietary garbage00:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Acer machines da besht!00:37
lubot<kc2bez> Where were the Grammer police here "Operation System not found"?00:37
guiverckc2bez, it spell checks :)00:38
wxli think the grammar police would be more concerned about the grammer 00:38
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> wee woo00:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *looks at wxl glaring at dalton*00:41
wxlheaded home00:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Cya!00:47
lubot<kc2bez> wxl @tsimonq2  bug 182491001:40
lubot<tsimonq2> Ack thanks :)01:41
guiverckc2bez, wouldn't users connect to wifi/web before they tried to add additional drivers, or is the ubuntu-drivers set to autorun on first boot (before they have a chance to connect)01:42
lubot<kc2bez> I would expect most people to connect but if they can't or don't we should probably be able to install the display drivers.01:44
lubot<kc2bez> It isn't set to autorun now but @tsimonq2 was looking to add it to the installer I think.01:45
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wxlthanks @kc2bez 04:17
wxli guess i should target this bug at calamares settings or something @tsimonq2 ?04:17
wxlmaybe not04:18
wxlit does seem to be a bug in ubuntu04:18
wxlthis is the same behavior with ubuntu right, @kc2bez ?04:18
guivercwxl, i have a xubuntu downloaded, but how would i look.. (if that would help), but wouldn't a fix be having a ton more stuff on the ISO - which will annoy more (due size) than it'd please I suspect...04:32
wxlguiverc: it's a catch-22, especially when without the drivers one ends up with an apparently non functional system04:34
wxlmy *GUESS* is xubuntu would behave the same. afaik this is something built into the instller04:36
guivercmy hardware is pretty generic so don't notice things needing extra drivers..  (my wacom pen works due kernel)..   I'd +1 including for those without internet & a growing ISO size over keeping size small.  (can't work out how much of my current 2gb thumb-drive is used by current daily iso)04:44
wxloh yeah if you don't have need of proprietary drivers it's pretty much irrelevant04:45
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lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> this is the same behavior with ubuntu right, @kc2bez ?], I didn't try that but I can tonight if you think it will help.09:21
tewardmatrix death confirmed.14:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Hm?14:06
tewardnah, those using Matrix as their secondary mechanism here are dead (which includes wxl)14:06
tewardit just flopped off here14:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Niiice14:07
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cheburnetHi, devs, I have some troubles booting from nightly build of 19.04, I have already complainted in #lubuntu. Ubuntu Core 18.04 was booting fine today on the same machine.15:21
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [nvidia-driver-418], why are you not using software-properties-qt for installing nvidia drivers :P ??15:24
cheburnet4.18.0-16 boots fine, 4.18.0-17 doesn't15:30
lubot<tsimonq2> @cheburnet [<cheburnet> Hi, devs, I have some troubles booting from nightly build of 19.04, …], If anyone can reproduce this, or if they come back, ping me please17:02
lubot<EgenhoferJ> I was having issues earlier, but then I did a checksum and my ISO was incomplete. had to redownload.17:03
lubot<tsimonq2> Ahh17:03
lubot<tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [If anyone can reproduce this, or if they come back, ping me please], If someone can specifically reproduce and confirm that -16 is good and -17 is bad.17:04
wxl@kc2bez yeah i think it would be important to see if it affects ubuntu...... and any other flavors. report the results on the bug report17:37
wxl@teward: what IS the deal with matrix?17:38
wxlafaik they didn't kill the bridges17:38
wxland i see noting on freenode about it17:38
wxlnothing new from matrix.org since the original breach17:39
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez yeah i think it would be important to see if it affects ubuntu.... …], ack. I will work on it tonight.17:39
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward: what IS the deal with matrix?], all I know is their connections died again 😜17:40
lubot<kc2bez> @HMollerCl [why are you not using software-properties-qt for installing nvidia drivers :P ??], I did test that after I connected my netowrk and that works really well. It is a nice addition for us, thanks for your work on that.17:41
wxloh wait this is a new result17:41
wxlthe other day i wasn't even here so at least there's that17:41
lubot<tsimonq2> After the release is done, I think as a team our next biggest priority, if you have the skills to help, is to go help fix Debian RC bugs for the Buster release: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html … The sooner these are fixed, the sooner we can get those fixes in Ubuntu, the sooner Buster is release, the soone17:41
lubotr we get new stuff that we can fix in time for 20.04. … I can sponsor anything if there's proper rationale and paperwork.17:41
lubot<tsimonq2> They're down to 150. That should be doable if a few people (not just us) are on it17:42
* wxl assigns emacs bugs to @tsimonq2 17:43
* teward assigns all bugs to @tsimonq217:43
* teward then spites @tsimonq2 with chaos17:43
lubot<tsimonq2> :P17:44
lubot<tsimonq2> No seriously17:44
lubot<teward001> seriously?17:45
wxlfwiw none of these are our bugs17:45
tewardand I have enough on my plate prepping E-series NGINX uploads and the MIR bugs I'mma have to file...17:46
tewardnot to mention the workload I have to add to the SEcurity team xD17:46
lubot<tsimonq2> If anyone has spare time, ofc :)17:47
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll be going at it17:47
tewardI assume you have the requisite clothing and apparel for such self-flagellation then :p17:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Nah man, it'll be fun17:49
lubot<teward001> *silently sits in judgement upon you*17:49
wxlas i read it there are 110 bugs that actually need work17:50
lubot<aptghetto> Create a task: neighbourhood help … And add the relevant packages (linux, grub, emacs) we should fix17:51
lubot<EgenhoferJ> @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to image>], EIN!!!!!! ❤️17:51
lubot<tsimonq2> @aptghetto [Create a task: neighbourhood help … And add the relevant packages (linux, grub, em …], Create a task called "push Buster through the door" and assign wxl, got it 😆17:52
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> as i read it there are 110 bugs that actually need work], Yeah, about that17:52
wxlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand status = spite17:52
lubot<aptghetto> 110 bugs or 111 in Simons world17:53
wxlthere we go17:54
tewardfour minutes later, *Matrix explodes again*17:55
therry_Hello, I'm back (with ten new DVD-R)18:28
therry_Yesterday I tried to install Lubuntu 19.04, but, after some minutes of a blue loading screen, it ended to a black screen with a blinking underscore (sometimes white, other times yellow)18:29
therry_Ubuntu 19.04 is working and Lubuntu 18.10 too.18:30
therry_My hardware is: CPU: Intel Core2Duo E7300, GPU: NVidia GeForce 9600Pro, MB: Asus P5N7A_VM18:31
therry_Of course, I could install an other distro, or Lubuntu 18.10. But I thought my case could be usefull for you, to improve your distro (perhaps other people could be affected by my problem)18:33
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Can you get the 19.04 to boot with the nomodeset option?18:33
therry_So, I'm available for the next 3 hours.18:33
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Odd that ubuntu would boot without it, but that's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head to try.18:33
therry_Yes, nomodeset doesn't work. I also try with all free software, to avoid proprietary NVidia drivers, but it crashes too.18:35
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Is there a daily of the mini iso net install?18:35
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Wonder if we could get it installed with that, and if it would boot.18:35
therry_Currently, I'm burning the beta version '2019-03-28 23:42'.18:35
lubot<EgenhoferJ> I haven't touched an nvidia gpu since I used an ion sff card with a pentium d, so I don't have much expereicne with them anymore :(18:36
therry_What about iso net install? I don't understand18:38
lubot<EgenhoferJ> I was wondering if you could use the net install on the system, if there is one for 19.04 and choose the Lubuntu packages, and then see if it would boot.18:39
therry_Is there a verbose mode, during the boot, to understand what is wrong?18:39
lubot<EgenhoferJ> You could try adding "nosplash debug — verbose".18:40
therry_This is a new install. My current distro on this computer is Mint. Would you like I install Ubuntu 19.04, then switch to Lubuntu? I can try that later.18:42
therry_The beta version is working (but with stranges hardware error, just before loading the desktop)18:44
therry_Where can I found the others release, between 2019-03-28 23:42  and 2019-04-12 14:48, to disect?18:45
therry_I tried a second boot with the beta, to read the hardware errors, but now, all is OK.18:52
therry_I will try the last daily with the verbose mode...18:52
therry_It reaches "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes. (OK)", then nothing else. It stops here.19:01
lubot<aptghetto> Can you switch to a TTY with CTRL+ALT+F5?19:02
therry_Yes, but I have no account. Have you a magic password?19:06
lubot<aptghetto> try ubuntu with pw ubuntu19:06
therry_No, it's rejected19:07
lubot<aptghetto> Then, I don't have a magic password19:07
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Try lubuntu instead of ubuntu.19:13
lubot<EgenhoferJ> I know for xubuntu and kubuntu the live account matches the naming structure19:13
therry_I'm booting Ubuntu 19.04, to install it on my harddrive. I will test lubuntu/lubuntu later...19:14
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Disco Final] has been updated (20190416)19:15
wxltherry_: curious question: does an ubuntu install WITHOUT NETWORK work?19:31
lubot<teward001> @wxl should it?19:32
lubot<teward001> :P19:32
wxli would expect it to not19:32
lubot<acheronuk> really??19:33
therry_Ubuntu install is in progress (from a DVD). I activeted the update from the network19:33
wxltherry_: the key is having no network while it installs19:34
tewardwxl: you mean no *internet*, or no network whatsoever?19:35
wxlno internet19:35
therry_Installation is complete. Would you like I retry, without network? OK19:35
wxlinteresting that for beta none of the no internet testcases were performed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/402/builds/190331/testcases19:37
lubot<acheronuk> New isos landing by the way19:38
wxli know19:39
lubot* acheronuk was talking to everyone and no-one19:39
wxlalso interesting: there's a bug regarding nouveau making nvidia grumpy with the installer in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/182202619:39
ubot93Ubuntu bug 1822026 in linux (Ubuntu Disco) "[Dell Precision 7530/5530 with Nvidia Quadro P1000] Live USB freezes or cannot complete install when nouveau driver is loaded (crashing in GP100 code)" [Undecided, Triaged]19:39
wxlno-one: No such nick/channel19:39
therry_So, Ubuntu installation without Ethenert link is started. Wait and see...19:45
lubot<aptghetto> What size has your /var/log/sddm.log?19:49
therry_It's a live install and I can't reach the desktop (with Lubunto). How can I tell you this?19:52
lubot<aptghetto> It was a question for everyone and no-one19:52
therry_Install is complete. I restart my computer19:57
wxl@tsimonq2: didn't you fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/177674819:58
ubot93Ubuntu bug 1776748 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Duplicated nm-applet (network tray icon) on panel" [Medium, Triaged]19:58
therry_I reach the desktop. All looks good (except the resolution), without network.19:59
wxlok that's unexpected.. and unfortunate19:59
wxlwhich drivers are you using? (`lspci -nnk`)20:00
wxlGENERAL REQUEST FOR HELP: go through disco bugs at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects/opened and see if anything applies to us.. if it does add it to the known issues https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/blog/browse/master/posts/release/disco/final/post.md20:02
lubot<aptghetto> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/182223020:04
therry_lspci -nnk: Kernel driver in use: nForce2_smbus20:06
therry_| grep diver => nForce2_smbus, ohci-pci, ehci-pci, snd_hda_intel, forcedeth, ahci, pcieport and pata_jmicron20:09
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: didn't you fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ …], No20:22
therry_Great! The today daily build is working on my hardware. I reach the live desktop. Very ggod job!20:29
lubot<tsimonq2> AWESOME!20:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Maybe you could stick around and help us test some more ;)20:30
therry_Yes, of course20:30
lubot<tsimonq2> If you have Telegram you could join there as well20:31
lubot<tsimonq2> But we always have stuff to test :)20:31
therry_I don't use Telegram. I'll be back here tomorrow (same hour)20:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks!20:36
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wxl@tsimonq2: do you know why xenial has 5.5.1 version of qt libs but it seems to report 5.6.1?23:08
tsimonq2I don't know.23:08
wxlor maybe i'm misunderstanding23:08

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