tomreynbortoelnino: newer software obviously. see ...00:25
tomreyn!releasenotes | bortoelnino00:25
ubottubortoelnino: For release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases00:25
pikapikaIs there a way to permanently "pin" a process so its always in memory (and if possible to dictate, also never swapped out)?00:42
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help690Help I dunno how 2 partition hard drive for ubuntu. It's a separate hard drive w windows on other drives01:09
help690Swap partition 8000 mb right? Primary or logical?01:09
help690There no way to auto install it makes me manually partition the drive /dev/sdc01:11
help690Windows is on sba and sdb01:11
help690Sdc all unallocated01:11
help690What other partitions besides swap and ext4 /01:12
guiverchelp690, which release of Ubuntu are you going to use.  A seperate swap partition isn't require for later releases (it can use a swap file meaning pre-allocating space isn't required; though can still be done for speed or other reasons)01:18
guiverchelp690, you also don't need a seperate /home (for user data) though I still prefer one..01:18
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cigarEnoughI have a problem with static using mumble. There is both significant static in output and input, and what's weird is all other mic and speaker applications don't have any static. Any ideas?04:12
scratch_oshi all04:13
cigarEnoughHi Scratch_Os.04:14
Boyettei have a very strange problem and dont know where to look for help04:20
cigarEnoughMight as well explain it Boyette.04:21
Boyettei have an ubuntu vps which makes an ftp transfer of a file on a daily basis with an sh script04:22
Boyettesuddenly the file which is approximately 55mb shows up as 0kb in the destination04:23
Boyettealso when i run this sh script manually it does transfer but just creates an empty file04:23
Boyettenothing was changed at both sides04:23
Boyettebut i have no idea why this happens04:23
cigarEnoughI'm not sure either. I don't know how fps transfer works. Does it delete the destination file, then when in the process of uploading have a 0 sized file in it's place? I don't know.04:25
Boyettethe destination is either non existent or supposed to overwrite04:26
Boyettewhich always worked04:26
Boyettenow it always overwrite to 0kb and creates an empty output04:26
Boyettewhile the origin is 55mb04:26
cigarEnoughIs there a verbose way to run the ssh ftp transfer script to see what it does in the console?04:27
Boyettelet me check if i run it in the terminal04:27
Boyetteit just gives an empty line04:29
Boyettelike it means it was executed and sucessfull04:29
Boyettewithout errors04:29
Boyetteits normal04:29
cigarEnoughDid it finish too quickly for the size?04:29
Boyettehowever its a very fast connection it usually doesnt take more then a few seconds04:31
Boyettenow it is faster then a few seconds04:32
Boyetteso it should be yes04:32
cigarEnoughI tried searching the quesiton, and this article ( https://kb.globalscape.com/KnowledgebaseArticle10232.aspx ) says that it probably didn't make a socket connection to the server.04:32
Boyettethank you very much04:34
Boyettei have something to discuss with the host04:34
cigarEnoughYou're welcome. I didn't expect to help anyone.04:35
coffeeguyhey what's the best way to run eve online in ubuntu 18.04?04:46
coffeeguyI figure i'm going to need wine and crossover or lutiv?04:46
coffeeguylurtiv* sp04:46
lotuspsychjecoffeeguy: see if its in the list of appdb or playonlinux04:47
lotuspsychje!appdb | coffeeguy04:47
ubottucoffeeguy: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:47
coffeeguyah yah i didn't think of them ty lotuspsychje04:47
lotuspsychje!info playonlinux | coffeeguy04:47
ubottucoffeeguy: playonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.12-1 (bionic), package size 965 kB, installed size 3020 kB04:47
coffeeguyoh sweet04:47
coffeeguythank you thank you :)04:48
gmichel3Hello, fresh install of Lubuntu 18.10, I installed Netbeans and when I run it after the loading screen it just quits, I get no error code on the terminal. Any ideas?05:27
gmichel3I can compile and run java programs on the terminal (with javac and java respectively). But Netbeans just doesn't work.05:28
lotuspsychjegmichel3: did you try launch netbeans from terminal?05:37
gmichel3Yes lotuspsychje, I launched from terminal but I get no error code or any output for that matter.05:38
lotuspsychjegmichel3: what about dmesg or syslog?05:38
gmichel3lotuspsychje: didnt find anything relevant there05:39
gmichel3Googling around all I found was something that doesn't seem reated to my problem (something about netbeans using jdk11 when it should use jdk8)05:41
Bashing-omgmichel3: what shows ' apt depends netbeans ; dpkg -l java8-sdk ' ?05:46
opendownHello all, Need help with keyboard layout handler adding missing layout05:50
opendownanybody ?05:51
gmichel3Bashing-om: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Hj2hm6H7DvhKeSTDMofdvQ05:52
Bashing-omgmichel3: checking,05:56
lotuspsychjegmichel3: how did you install java exactly?05:56
gmichel3lotuspsychje: I just installed Netbeans and it installed Java with it as a dependency.05:57
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lotuspsychjegmichel3: just trying to install netbeans on 18.04 and it wants java 1106:05
lotuspsychjegmichel3: no dependency problems here06:09
gmichel3lotuspsychje: that's strange, I found lots of sites where they said that Netbeans 8.1 and 8.2 don't work with Java beyond 8 (Netbeans 10 will come with suport for JDK 11)06:10
gmichel3Do you mean no dependency problems in the output that I pasted?06:11
Bashing-omgmichel3: I am not sure how to read that output :(06:12
gmichel3Oh, don't worry Bashing-om06:12
gmichel3Well thanks for your time guys, I appreciate it.06:14
gmichel3I think I'm gonna stick with Vim and the command line as IDE.06:14
Bashing-omgmichel3: I will look at the manual amd learn if what I think is correct ... when my mind is fresh.06:15
kocoPossible to set a permanent live CD on a drive?06:38
kocoScenario: Unsquashfs onto partition, chroot in to edit, then boot in and have it always reset on logout06:39
kocoI am thinking of using toram, added to grub, but the issue is that I do not use GRUB.06:40
qwebirc32507can i ask about wildcard injection here?06:58
geirhadon't ask to ask, just ask07:01
qwebirc32507chmod 777 * -R;07:02
qwebirc32507is there a way to hit another non-sub directory using injection on the code: chmod 777 * -R if the -R is already there?07:04
geirhaif there's a symlink to / in the current directory, that'll hose the system07:05
EriC^^qwebirc32507: wth, do you think this channel is hep me to hack?07:05
qwebirc32507help keep my code secure  eric, this is why i asked07:06
geirhato keep your code secure, never do chmod 77707:07
EriC^^oh ok07:07
qwebirc32507it still hoses with the -R afterwords?07:07
qwebirc32507does the parser care about the order?07:07
geirhaGNU tools accepts options anywhere in the arguments, unlike traditional unix commands which expect options to come before non-option arguments07:08
qwebirc32507ah, this is why i asked, thats the detail i needed, thanks, ill just not touch it then07:09
qwebirc32507any alternatives to chmod 777 for changing a file permission in a script securely?07:09
geirhaseriously?   chmod 777 * -R  is horrible code for several reasons. It shouldn't be in your script at all07:09
qwebirc32507i gotta change the permissions of all the files in the directory so non admins can use them07:10
geirhathen create a group for these non-admins that need access, give that group access. Never set 777 mode07:11
qwebirc32507is there an easy way to make new users automatically join the group?07:12
qwebirc32507if for a kind of linux testing enviornment that i want to help people new to linux play with07:13
qwebirc32507i just wanted a script i could hit a file with and put on the system07:13
qwebirc32507oh im thinking about this wrong, your group is a good idea, i basically can just put all the machines in the group07:15
nisankhindiaA weird issues rised on my system , ubuntu bionic beaver installed07:16
nisankhindiaToday after first boot system touchpad pointer speed response is too much slow , than i thought it might resolved a logoff session or restart than again it keeps responding slow but not for entire time .. for the first few minutes right after login to system it respond like that than it works fine07:16
nisankhindiaOne more i have not made any changes into the ubuntu system . No package installation nothing . It is exactly same it was before07:17
nisankhindiaChecked multi touch,  hid things .. all are perfect07:19
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qwebirc32507ok my group permissions are working, thanks again07:43
deanc__If I mv /home/dc/path1/ /home/dc/path2/ so that path1 dir is moved inside path2, will it move the dotfiles and hidden directories *INSIDE* path1/ at the same time?07:48
qwebirc32507@deac__ yes, copying files ie with cp -r file1 file2 copies hidden files08:03
EriC^^deanc__: yeah it will08:05
deanc__Great thanks08:05
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deanc__One other question. I have a drive on an encrypted container that i mount manually on boot, i'd like to then create an nfs share from it08:05
deanc__i have this set up previously using /etc/exports but i guess this wont work as it will try to mount it on boot and the mount point doesn't yet exist?08:05
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deanc__or can i just leave it there, and then run exportfs -ra after mounting the encrypted volume?08:06
McErroneousHi, where am i supposed to set alias , in Ubuntu ?08:06
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EriC^^McErroneous: in your ~/.bashrc08:09
SchrodingersScatI'm having some issues with my pavucontrol.  Rebooted and now it sits at "Establishing a connection to PulseAudio.  Please Wait."08:21
EriC^^SchrodingersScat: maybe pulse isnt running? try ps aux | grep pulse08:32
McErroneousEriC^^: unfortunately my ~/.bashrc does not get executed on login..., dont know why..08:33
EriC^^McErroneous: maybe you're using a different shell than bash?08:33
McErroneoususing bash, and login from virtual console tty108:33
EriC^^McErroneous: try typing "bash" in the shell08:34
EriC^^McErroneous: try "echo 'echo test' >> ~/.bashrc"08:34
SchrodingersScatEriC^^: anon      5206  0.0  0.0 122736  9280 ?        D<s  01:34   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no08:34
EriC^^then type "bash"08:34
McErroneousit prints :" .bashrc"08:35
EriC^^McErroneous: can you upload your "~/.bashrc" ?08:35
McErroneousEriC^^: there is nothing in it, i just created one via, vi...08:36
EriC^^McErroneous: oh, copy the one from /etc/skel08:36
McErroneousEriC^^: let me see...08:36
EriC^^McErroneous: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/08:36
EriC^^SchrodingersScat: that looks fine i guess08:37
SchrodingersScatEriC^^: kind of weird, mpv and youtube don't work either...should I be worried?08:40
* SchrodingersScat just got his backups back in order, so may be some blessed timing08:41
SchrodingersScatThink it's worth a --purge and reinstall?08:43
SchrodingersScatthat seems to have made things worse...08:53
McErroneousi defined an alias 'apt-get = "apt-get -y --force-yes"' but , apt-get still asks for permission to proceed..., what the hack may i do.. ?08:59
geirhatoo many spaces09:02
geirhaalias key=value   not  alias key = value09:02
geirhasounds like a bad idea to include --force-yes though09:03
McErroneousi defined the alias with double quotes, but it shows up in single quotes...., if i type alias in bash...09:07
McErroneouseven without whitespaces, it still asks for permission to proceed installing ( sudo apt-get install irssi )09:11
blackflowMcErroneous: you're using it from a script?09:12
geirhaMcErroneous: alias only replaces the first word in a command. In your case, the first word is sudo, so apt-get will not be replaced09:12
geirhayou'll have to alias sudo as well in that case09:13
blackflow... or define the alias for root (saner!)09:13
geirhawon't help09:14
blackflownot even with sudo -i  ?09:14
geirhadoesn't help when sie wants to run sudo apt-get ...09:15
geirhaalias sudo='sudo ' apt-get='apt-get -y'  # still a BAD idea09:15
blackflowgeirha: McErroneous: yes bad idea.   my question is, why is this done? is it in order to be used non-interactively in a script?09:17
geirhaaliases are disabled in scripts09:17
blackflowmy point is, if non-interactive apt-get is needed, this is a wrong way to accomplish it. one only needs to export DEBIAN_FRONTEND="noninteractive" for apt-get to not ask any questions.09:18
McErroneousWow..., that was tricky... now it is working.. thx09:18
amosbirdhello, why does my ubuntu laptop sshd not accepting even my local ssh request?09:19
amosbirdssh simply doesn't work09:19
blackflowamosbird: please define "doesn't work" with a specific error you get09:19
amosbirdssh hangs09:19
amosbirdit doesn't return anything09:19
blackflowamosbird: do you have a firewall or any iptables rules in effect?09:20
amosbirdI've done sudo iptables -F09:20
amosbirddo I need to apply other settings?09:21
amosbirdand why do any sensible firewall blocks
amosbirdit doesn't make any sense to me09:21
Jonopolyso i'm running ubuntu on my pi (terminal only)09:22
Jonopolyis there a safe/free way to hide ip? I was looking into tor proxy09:23
blackflowamosbird: it doesn't, that's why I asked if there are any rules that might explain this. you flushed the chains but what's the default policy on them? DROP?09:23
Jonopolybut apparently it's banned in here?09:23
amosbirdblackflow:  sh*t.....09:24
amosbirdhow can I change that to accept09:24
blackflowamosbird: with the -P flag to iptables (look up the manpage ;) )09:24
SchrodingersScatJonopoly: not really a #ubuntu question, but https://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat  If you're only worried about freenode then they allow you to access through tor, just have to do it right.09:24
SchrodingersScatJonopoly: can also simply connect via TLS and get a cloak, depends on your paranoia.09:25
JonopolySchrodingersScat: I just would like it hidden really, Im connecting from work atm so it's secure, but at home.. not so sure09:26
JonopolyI was interested in using tor since its free and reccommended, Tor just claim "using tor proxy is banned from #ubuntu"09:26
SchrodingersScatJonopoly: maybe chat in #ubuntu-offtopic09:26
JonopolyOkay thank you09:27
furycd001HI guys.. xubuntu 18.04.2 "feh --scale-down --auto-zoom" leaves images with a border either side. How can I scale images without having a border either side ??09:30
blackflowfurycd001: random guess, by setting --bg-color so the border is of the correct color?09:31
Ben64furycd001: have you checked the manual09:31
sonOfRaI've never used feh for that kind of thing, I tend to use imagemagick, which is a pretty powerful library for doing these things09:31
Guestfurycd001: maybe --borderless09:31
furycd001--borderless did not work :(09:33
furycd001I just did a fresh install yesterday coming from 16.04 & everything worked fine before the fresh install....09:33
lotuspsychjefurycd001: i think something has changed on bionic on borders, have seen other users reporting that09:34
lotuspsychjelike with themes and borders09:34
blackflowfurycd001: if you make the image smaller than the viewport, and/or change aspect ratio, there will _always_ be some border, that's geometry. best you can do is set the background color (which can also be transparent iirc)09:35
furycd001Hmmmm thanks for the heads up :)09:35
furycd001Why was there never a border like this in 16.04 ??09:36
blackflowfurycd001: can you upload an example of "this" to imgur?09:36
lotuspsychjefurycd001: see also dconf-editor to tweak stuff09:36
furycd001Here you go >> http://i.imgur.com/VtwkS9Z.png09:37
furycd001As you can see the images has scaled to fit the screen height, but feh has not scaled properly at the sides....09:38
blackflowfurycd001: right. just set the black background or whatever color you want?  also read through this, to see if any change since 2016 might've explain the behavior: https://git.finalrewind.org/feh/plain/ChangeLog09:39
furycd001Ok thank you :)09:40
blackflowfurycd001: perhaps --scale-down --auto-zoom is not what you need? that will scale automatically to window size but won't cut out images so there will naturally be such areas you think are borders, where there's no image info due to aspect ratio09:42
furycd001I used that in 16.04 & it worked fine. It was actually someone on here that helped me set it up & provided the command originally....09:45
blackflowfeh changed a lot since then. it's possible even that it's now working as expected and it previously didn't due to a bug now fixed. wouldn't be the first time for software to do that.09:46
furycd001Yea a lot has changed & I'm finding that out the more I use my system today....09:47
SchrodingersScatpavucontrol still isn't connecting to pulseaudio.  I lost the icon in the tray as well :|  alsamixer works to control the audio, not as convenient though.09:48
blackflowfurycd001: make sure you check the bionic release notes, there's very important new stuff in the networking department09:48
furycd001Yea I've got a whole bunch of stuff saved for when I'm fully set up....09:49
juanonymousIs there a way to to force and change the password of one of user shell access - i forgot the password of one user i created09:50
blackflowjuanonymous: yes with the `passwd <username>` command executed as root.09:53
juanonymousBut it is asking me to type in the current pass09:54
SkyriderGreetings everyone09:55
lotuspsychjewelcome Skyrider09:56
juanonymousAw, got it now09:56
SkyriderIn a pickle and need some help ^_^. I hope this is the right channel to ask, seeing it's nginx/www-data user related, but also linux related. What is the best way (with vsftp) to give access to a specific /var/www directory, with it running under www-data user/group? As I assume nginx requires both user/group to be www-data.09:57
blackflowSysGhost: what I do, I add nginx to the (v/s/ftp) user _group_. also there's #ubuntu-server which might be more helpful for server questions.10:02
SkyriderThink he was referring to me :p10:03
blackflowSysGhost: I'm sorry. tabfail.  Skyrider that was for you :)10:03
* SysGhost suddenly pops into existence in middle of that. Sorry =P10:03
SkyriderAha, another channel ?^^ interesting.10:04
SkyriderThanks ^^10:04
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SchrodingersScattried this to 'fix' pulseaudio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure doesn't make it connectable.10:27
pascal18250Bonjour à Toutes et à Tous ...10:27
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pascal18250ok thank10:28
stvoi pessoal namo da dudi aki.10:39
lotuspsychje!english | stv10:39
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OerHeksi think !pt10:40
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peter22222hi folks, I have the following problem: I have a Toshiba Network printer Toshiba e-Studio 5508A. Whenever I log in to the network the printer is shown without installation. I think it is adressed with dnssd. But when i want to print, there is an error "unable to locate printer". So i decided to switch to the ipp protocol cos I know the IP-Address. It seems to work, cos i see status notifications like lid open, few ink etc.10:54
peter22222But I need pass a username and password to print, and there is no prompt shown for username and password10:54
tomreyn^ Ping timeout: 255 seconds11:02
BluesKajHowdy folks11:03
SchrodingersScatAt least 19.04 should be out soon, so worst case I could swap data around and do a fresh install, but pavucontrol still sitting at https://imgur.com/tpAdbbO11:32
detlyI'm on 18.04, trying to add a VPN from a config file as a non-admin user (via network settings). But it prompts me for an admin password and then cancels the whole process when I cancel out of the auth dialog. What happened to the ability to add VPNs *not* for all users?11:35
detlyCould someone else confirm that this isn't possible on 18.04, that it's not just me?11:36
detlyah dammit I have to go anyway11:42
OolVPN change the network conf, usually you need a package to do it (like network-manager-openvpn) so you need to have the admin right to do it, after you may use it without specific right11:52
tomreyndetly left11:53
isomari_greetings, how can I hide my ssid using snap wifi-ap?11:53
Ooltomreyn: oh yes, thanks, I miss the quit message11:53
tomreynisomari_: you'd need to contact its developer (or, maybe, ask in #snappy)11:55
isomari_tomreyn: thanks11:55
bryanroderyckhi someone help me to remove some repository please11:56
tomreynbryanroderyck: any repository, at random? or a specific one?11:56
tomreynsorry. ;-) i mean: we'll need more details.11:57
bryanroderyckhere i a pastebin https://pastebin.com/GaRRf5PF11:58
bryanroderycktomreyn : a specific one that is not secure11:59
tomreynbryanroderyck: so you run ubuntu 16.04?12:00
ioriabryanroderyck, the last update for that ppa is for precise 12.0412:01
tomreynppa:jason-scheunemann/ppa does indeed not support 16.04 ("xenial"): http://ppa.launchpad.net/jason-scheunemann/ppa/ubuntu/dists/12:01
bryanroderyckhow to remove it and the error message?12:02
tomreynbryanroderyck: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jason-scheunemann*12:02
ioriaor from the Updates gui, r add-apt-repository --remove ....12:03
tomreynalso check "apt-key list" for a gpg signing key you might need to remove12:03
tomreynin the end, run   ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported12:04
bryanroderyckthanks tomreyn it work perfectly !12:05
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marzWhere can I locate cron-apt logs?12:28
Oolinto /var/log/apt/ certainly12:29
tomreynit may also be in the system journal, dpending on how you're logging.12:29
SlartibartGuys? Could anyone tell me how to make the DNS chain first and then the upstream one, whatever IP that is(I'm on a laptop so it will change..) I've added 'prepend domain-name-servers;' to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, /etc/resolv.conf contains 'nameserver'12:59
Slartibart(I have a local .dev domain for development)13:00
pragmaticenigmaSlartibart: You would have to write your own program/script to change the upstream DNS server for dnsmasq.13:01
tomreynSlartibart: what does   systemd-resolve --status   report on the nameservers being used for your main network connection?13:04
Slartibarttomreyn: Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.13:06
Slartibartpragmaticenigma: How do you mean? Like picking the upstream DNS server from DHCP settings and writing it to resolv.conf?13:07
tomreynehich ubuntu release are you on?13:07
Slartibarttomreyn: 18.0413:07
pragmaticenigmaSlartibart: Short of some networking gymnastics on your laptop, there is no way to run a local DNS server while leveraging the upstream dynamically assigned server.13:08
pragmaticenigmaSlartibart: I assume that you are attempting to run a local caching DNS server or Pi-Hole to block advertisements to "speed" up web browsing?13:10
mustmodifyHaving a weird issue with chmod... https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/6ff0abe272c9d94f9511496ff08753c613:10
mustmodifyany suggestions?13:11
Slartibartpragmaticenigma: Hmm :-|.. I don't see how to avoid gymnastics, since I have a local .dev domain for development(web dev, so local test versions of sites). And I'm moving between different networks.13:11
pragmaticenigmaSlartibart: I would recommend using the /etc/hosts file instead. Easier to manage and you don't have to monkey with DNS settings.13:12
pragmaticenigmamustmodify: Your chmod command is referencing the current working directory only. To change all items with in the directory you would need: "sudo chmod 755 ./*"13:14
mustmodifypragmaticenigma: OOOHHHhhhhhhh......13:15
tomreynSlartibart: i'd say you want your own dns server which joins your .dev tld with lookups on internet resolvers. and to configure this as your every connections' nameserver, overriding what dhcp might provide.13:17
tomreynwhether you run that dns server on your own system or elsewhere is up to you, of course.13:18
tomreynsystemd-resolved seems to be currently broken on your system13:18
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: The issue is if they are going to networks with a capture portal, it might prevent them from proper redirection to the capture portal. It is also possible that the TTL of the capture portal might override the original desired domain longer than expected. On a device that roams networks, I would recommend using the /etc/hosts files.13:20
SlartibartYeah. *groan* Ok, thanks for your input on the DNS part, guys. I'll look into healing systemd-resolved now.13:20
LordDragonhey all13:21
LordDragonso somehow my /boot is all screwed up again13:21
LordDragonit always seems to get full of stuff and then i cant install or purge or do anything13:21
LordDragonim trying to use "purge" in apt-get now and i keep getting this13:21
tomreynpragmaticenigma: hmm yes, you have a point.13:21
tomreyn!paste | LordDragon13:22
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pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: If this is a cronic issue, I would recommend a fresh install and *not* designating a /boot partition. The /boot partition is no longer required in newer machines13:22
LordDragonoh ok, ill use paste.ubuntu.com next time13:22
qwebirc52435Im having issues writing to an HDD. First of all I couldnt write to it at all because it was mounted as a read only file system but after running ´´sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 "/media/chris/500 GB"´´ the error change to cp: cannot create regular file '/media/chris/500 GB/Firefox Setup 66.0.3(1).exe': No such file or directory. I know for a fact that that file exists13:23
qwebirc52435Creating new folders also doesnt work13:23
LordDragonpragmaticenigma: hmm yeah i probably should do that at some point, though thats more work than i can put in right now13:23
qwebirc52435The HDD utilizes MBR and NTFS13:23
tomreynLordDragon: you'll either need to do a fresh installation or an upgrade anyways. you seem (!) to be running ubuntu 14.04 (?)13:23
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: Does the drive mount in a writable state in a Windows environment?13:24
LordDragonthere, thats the error im getting13:24
qwebirc52435I havent tried that yet13:24
qwebirc52435I could definetely write to that file before I installed windows along ubuntu on a different HDD on the same system.13:24
tomreynLordDragon: what does this report?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)13:25
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: Is the drive/partition the windows installation location?13:25
LordDragonUbuntu 14.04.5 LTS13:25
LordDragonthats my versin13:25
th0rqwebirc52435, you need to escape the spaces in those commands or they wont work as expected13:25
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: small sidebar, 14.04 is fast approaching EOL, you might want to make time for that fresh install sooner rather than later13:26
tomreynLordDragon: so you don't install patches regularly, i guess. 14.04 will loose support in a few days.13:26
qwebirc52435Its not. It only has ONE partition which uses MBR/NTFS13:26
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. Support ends April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade13:26
LordDragonooook. procrastination has officially caught up with me13:26
tomreynLordDragon: if you'll want to upgrade you'll need to solve this issue first, though.13:27
LordDragonyeah, im just gonna backup and wipe the thing13:27
tomreynLordDragon: oh then i guess you can just ignore the issue for now13:27
qwebirc52435I will try that. th0r . I thought that the paranthesis there enough.13:28
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: Sounds like a very productive plan13:28
LordDragonwhat is the latest stable/most secure version right now? it is strictly for VPS use. no window manager and minimal install13:28
qwebirc52435$ cp -rf "/home/chris/Downloads/Firefox\ Setup\ 66.0.3.exe" "/media/chris/500\ GB/" cp: cannot stat '/home/chris/Downloads/Firefox\ Setup\ 66.0.3.exe': No such file or directory13:28
qwebirc52435That couldnt fix the issue13:28
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: 18.0413:28
LordDragonpragmaticenigma: ok cool thanks :)13:28
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: 18.04 LTS is the latest LTS release. 19.04 will be released in a few days if you want the regular channel of releases13:29
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.13:29
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: You don't need to escape spaces if you're wrapping the path in quotations13:29
LordDragonyeah i want LTS so i can procrastinate alot again lol13:29
qwebirc5243518.04 will even be supported for 10 years bc of a large scale commercial deal.13:30
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: Just remember this time, no need to create /boot ... you don't even need a /swap anymore13:30
qwebirc52435pragmaticenigma thanks for the info. th0r said that I had to nontheless.13:30
qwebirc52435Do you know how I can get my machine to write on that drive?13:30
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: I'm not sure th0r is paying close attention to what's going on13:30
LordDragonhmm its been awhile since ive used this VPS control panel to do a fresh install. im not sure if theres anything my provider needs to do on their end to make this work13:30
cha____does anyone know how to modify the default window positioning in gnome?13:31
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cha____ have a problem with the default window positions that programs open in gnome. Firefox keeps opening in the top left of the screen if theres already a window open in the centre. Any ideas on how to stop this?13:31
qwebirc52435$ mkdir test mkdir: cannot create directory ‘test’: No such file or directory13:31
tomreynLordDragon: you'll (probably, it is not strictly necessary) still want /boot if you'll have full disk encryption or lvm, and only then will the installer create it, though13:31
qwebirc52435Even creating folders isnt possible. Whats wrong? ...13:31
qwebirc52435Trying to write to the Windows partition of my current SSD doesnt works the same way.13:33
LordDragontomreyn: i dont think it has full disk encryption. its KVM type virtualization13:33
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: Here's what I think might be happening. I can't be certain as you haven't tried using the drive again in Windows13:33
tomreynLordDragon: okay, just wanted to point out where /boot may be needed / wanted.13:34
qwebirc52435I think my device is having issues with NTFS13:34
qwebirc52435I will retry in windows in 30 seconds. I dont think my handle here will be the same tough.13:34
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: 1) The drive is dying and is in a failsafe mode so you can attempt to recover data from it. 2) Windows was shut down in Standby or Hibernate mode and the drive is protected from writes13:34
LordDragontomreyn: i appreciate it13:35
LordDragonso the VPS control panel seems to have a preinstalled cdrom image for 18.04 "server". what does the server version mean?13:35
qwebirc52435I will boot back into windows and check. Thanks for the help so far! I think its an issue with NTFS because I cant even write to my current drives ntfs partition.13:35
LordDragonhow does that differ from LTS one you guys mentioned?13:35
tomreynLordDragon: no desktop, and defaults to a different network configuration framework. see !releasenotes13:37
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc52435: Run a check disk in windows on the drive too13:37
tomreynLordDragon: oh i may have misunderstood, what i discussed are differences between server and desktop13:37
ubottuFor release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases13:38
tomreynLordDragon: there is server vs desktop, and there is 'normal' (9 month support period) vs LTS13:38
tomreyn18.04 is an LTS release, with a long support term. it is available in both desktop (in several !flavours) and server (with two different installers) models.13:39
LordDragonok server is probably what i want for a VPS then that will strictly be managed via ssh terminal13:40
LordDragonanyone know what "virtio" is all about? is that something i want to use in a VPS?13:42
SwedeMikeLordDragon: yes.13:42
LordDragonok cool13:42
SwedeMikeLordDragon: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-virtio/index.html13:43
thefatmaHey guys, the VM's in my company upgraded from Ubu16 to Ubu18, but afterwards they're compilation went really really slow do anyone has a direction what can cause this ?13:49
tomreyn!yy.mm | thefatma13:49
ubottuthefatma: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle13:49
JimBuntuthefatma, Also, please better detail what you mean by 'their compilation'13:50
thefatmaHey guys, the VM's in my company upgraded from Ubu16.04 LTS to Ubu18.04 LTS, but afterwards they're compilation went really really slow do anyone has a direction what can cause this ?13:50
thefatmadoes "touch" mean anything to you13:50
tomreynseveral things13:51
JimBuntuthefatma, "touch" as in the utility to create an empty file?13:51
tomreynwhile discussing the above, also discuss which kernel versions and ubuntu minor releases you were running.13:52
ndayalanhow to disable drivers like USB storage when not used in Ubuntu 16.04?13:54
thefatmatomreyn : Ubuntu 16.04.5 and Ubuntu18.04.213:55
lapidaryit's nice to see this channel is so active!13:55
thefatmaWhen they're "building" with touch it gets drstically slower then with the Ubuntu16.04.213:56
leftyfbthefatma: "touch" is just a command that "touches" a file which updates it's access/modification if the file exists or creates the file if it doesn't. If touch seems slow, then your issue is your storage/driver.13:57
tomreynor the kernel's i/o13:58
thefatmaMmm i see :leftyfb , thank you ill dig in more and be back maybe more with a more percise question13:58
thefatmai think it more kernel inclined answer13:58
thefatmaBut not sure yet13:58
thefatmai'll dig in more13:58
LordDragonok got a fresh install of ubuntu14:00
LordDragoni need to create a user with admin/sudo privleges14:00
LordDragonwhats the best way to do that?14:00
leftyfbLordDragon: create the user, add them to the sudo group14:01
LordDragonok cool14:01
Oolwith the graphical interfaces choose administrator not standard user14:01
leftyfbLordDragon: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-quickstart   # first result on google when searching for "ubuntu user"14:01
vityaяу братишки14:05
teward!ru | vitya14:05
ubottuvitya: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:05
vityaкакой торрент клиент нормальный?14:05
CookieMvitya, Transmission is really cool14:06
leftyfb!ru | vitya14:06
ubottuvitya: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:06
ndayalanHow to disable drivers like USB storage when not used in Ubuntu 16.04? To prevent unauthorized storage or data theft.14:08
leftyfbndayalan: disable them in your BIOS14:08
leftyfbndayalan: better yet, glue the usb ports shut14:09
exellhi, i'm trying to fix this for a couple of days, I have network shares that my laptop finds but my desktop doesn't when I go into network. It just wont auto discover them on the network when I go into the folder. I have ubuntu 18.0414:09
pragmaticenigmaexell: Do the shares appear if you enter in the location bar "smb://name_of_machine" ??14:10
pragmaticenigmaexell: If the location bar is not present, press Ctrl + L in the file manager and the breadcrumbs will switch to a text field14:10
leftyfbexell: what version of ubuntu is running on your laptop and desktop?14:11
exellleftyfb: both are identical 18.04 i'm just trying the network share thing atm14:13
SchrodingersScat[ao/alsa] Error received from snd_pcm_avail (-77, File descriptor in bad state)!14:14
SchrodingersScatidk if that's related to my pulsaudio being kaput14:14
exellpragmaticenima: just tells me invalid protocol14:14
leftyfb!context | SchrodingersScat14:14
pragmaticenigmaexell: What desktop environment are you running?14:15
blackflowndayalan: jokes aside and a bit offtopic here, but there are cases/chassis with physical locks for the back plane ports, look them up.14:15
ndayalanleftyfb: it's one among the suggestion given by lynis for system security auditing14:15
SchrodingersScatleftyfb: pavucontrol sitting at https://imgur.com/tpAdbbO 'Establishing a Connection to PulseAudio. Please Wait.'  I suppose I borked pulseaudio somehow.  At least 19.04 should be here soon.  Now pavucontrol isn't even in my indicator plugin...14:16
leftyfbSchrodingersScat: what version of ubuntu?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)14:16
exellpragmaticenigma: desktop plasma 5 laptop lxfe14:17
pragmaticenigmandayalan: I would recommend you not blindly follow advice, but instead analyse and carefully consider why you need to follow those procedures. Blindly following recommendations will lead you to a machine that will have reduced user experience14:17
pragmaticenigmaexell: Is the desktop actually running Ubuntu or Kubuntu? not KDE Neon14:18
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SchrodingersScatleftyfb: https://termbin.com/jtdm14:18
exellpragmaticenima kubuntu 18.04.2 on both14:19
exellpragmaticenigma: this is my desktop https://i.postimg.cc/DyhhnpnK/Screenshot-20190416-152102.png ... and this is my laptop https://i.postimg.cc/0jTqwZJ7/Screenshot-from-2019-04-16-15-18-14.png both running kubuntu 18.04.214:22
thefatmaHey guys, the VM's in my company upgraded from Ubu16.04 LTS to Ubu18.04 LTS, when switching from one branch to another branch inside git the incremental build, builds all the file while the change is one file , does anyone know why that is ?14:22
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leftyfb!repeat | thefatma14:23
ubottuthefatma: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/14:23
thefatmaOops im sorry, it was mistaken sent14:23
leftyfbthefatma: building from git has little to do with you running Ubuntu 18.04 vs 16.0414:24
JimBuntuthefatma, either way, that sounds like an issue that requires the responder to know what you are using for the build process... it might be best to turn your post/request into a paste.ubuntu.com URL with that information included.14:24
thefatmaBut it's so wierd that on the ubuntu16 machines it works fine and on the ubuntu18 it doesnt, maybe it correlated with the gir version ?14:25
blackflowthefatma: git is newer, could be timestamps are treated differently. depends on how you define "incremental build". might be better to ask in the channel specific to the tool you're using or software you're building.14:25
pragmaticenigmaexell: I'm not sure why that is not working for you. I just tried on my machine and it successful at connecting to the remote samba share. Have you changes any of the options or settings to the file explorer in KDE on the desktop?14:26
exellpragmaticenigma: nope, thats the annoying part, i was thinking of resorting to wiping as i've been at it for days and tried everything i found on google etc and I just can't get it to automatically find the shares like the laptop14:28
pragmaticenigmaexell: I wouldn't be concerned about it not auto-discovering ... that happens even in Windows.14:28
tomreynexell: run this on both systems:   dpkg -l | grep -E '^..  (gvfsl|ibglib|samba)' | nc termbin.com 999914:28
tomreynand compare the output14:29
exelltomreyn: https://termbin.com/98vz desktop - https://termbin.com/sml9 - laptop14:33
exelltomreyn: both screenshots if you missed them https://i.postimg.cc/DyhhnpnK/Screenshot-20190416-152102.png https://i.postimg.cc/0jTqwZJ7/Screenshot-from-2019-04-16-15-18-14.png14:35
tomreynexell: is "ubuntu-desktop" installed on both systems?14:35
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exelltomreyn: no, but i just installed it14:37
tomreynexell: then logout, login and try again14:37
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: how does installing ubuntu-desktop help KDE?14:38
tomreynoh crap was it kde14:38
tomreynit was, sorry14:38
tomreynexell: so please install kubuntu-desktop14:38
tomreynpragmaticenigma: thanks.14:39
thefatmablackflow : thank you14:40
exelltomreyn: pragmaticenima: thats it.. it found them... kubuntu-desktop was on the laptop but not the desktop. It's having issues connecting to workgroup with password etc but I can try and fix that. its probably just a setting. THANKS SO MUCH14:43
pragmaticenigmaexell: Cool, glad to hear it's up and running14:43
tomreynexell: you're welcome. do you want to try to undo my mistake about installing ubuntu-desktop (the gnome one) on both systems? i 'm not sure i can provide a compete recipe there, but i can try.14:44
exelltomreyn: dont worry about it. I have the network shares now, I will just leave it on there14:45
tomreynactually you can just get the list of packages which wer einstalled from /var/log/&apt/history.log14:45
osJ9hi. i wonder if it's possible to re-install my ubuntu's core on my already installed ubuntu?14:45
tomreynexell: so if you can identify the packages which were additionally installed when you installed the "ubuntu-desktop" package there then you can just purge them now.14:46
tomreynand i am convinced that the smb:// urls will continue working14:46
tomreynosJ9: you can reinstall14:47
tomreynosJ9: this should also do what you asked for - i did also *not* test it. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/79125/reinstalling-all-debian-packages#answers14:49
tomreynwhy would you need to do so, though?14:49
tomreynexell: solving this was indeed much easier once you showed the exact error message (today).14:51
osJ9tomreyn: thanks. I googled like "how to reinstalled core ubuntu" but didn't get much relative results. so i think I should have googled for "reinstall packages".14:52
tomreynit's not clear what "core ubuntu" is, maybe that's why you had not results.14:52
osJ9tomreyn: i just wonder and thought if it's possible.. just trying to learn more..14:53
nCrazedosJ9: what do you mean by "core ubuntu"?14:53
tomreynosJ9: alright. we mostly do practical support here, not so much theoretical questions. there's always #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support topics.14:54
osJ9like having all my applications after re-installing like browsers, IDE, media players and stuffs but having a fresh core installed since sometimes i mess around in terminal and editing some files and then I feel things now doesn't work properly14:56
JimBuntuI think 'core' is a bad term, since there is https://www.ubuntu.com/core and what I think osJ9 means is basically how to 'fectory reset' or 're-install without reset of config files'14:57
osJ9Alright. Thanks.14:57
osJ9JimBuntu: Yes.14:57
* BluesKaj wonders how installing kubuntu could leave kubuntu-desktop behind14:57
JimBuntuosJ9, If you want to factory reset, there is no method that I am aware of, sorry for that14:57
osJ9JimBuntu: NP ;)14:58
tomreynosJ9: the best solution to this is to not 'mess around in terminal and editing [random] files', not follow bad guides (yes it's difficult to know which ones are good and bad, feel free to ask here), and reinstall if you think you broke something badly.14:58
osJ9Yes, that makes more sense.15:00
Mr151hi guys15:04
Mr151how about goverment indoneaia15:05
LordDragonso when i try to do a apt-get upgrade in this fresh install of 18.04, i get this error15:08
LordDragonwhy is it "keeping those back" ?15:08
naccLordDragon: use `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`; or `sudo apt full-upgrade`15:09
bernyrdhello I am actually use debian -- I am confuse but can adapt some instruction15:09
bernyrdI try to pass USBIP device to QEMU guest. But hid_generic grabs the device as soon as I add. I can not use modprobe.d to blacklist for some reason, even after generating initramfs. I also can not use udev rule. What I tried did not work. I tried usb class and input class udev rule.15:09
bernyrdhid_generic taunts me in dmesg and I cry15:10
SomeTanyone know of a text editor like sublime text but in the command line?15:10
JimBuntuSomeT, I don't understand how it would be like sublime and yet command line as well... VIM ?15:11
nCrazedSomeT: what part of sublime are you trying to emulate?15:11
nCrazedbecause without specific features it just sounds like your'e asking for gui editor, but cli15:11
nCrazedwhich makes no sense15:11
bernyrdvim is good SomeT, but maybe you like VSCode? It is open source but is basically Javascript in browser engine15:11
bernyrdit is hard to do somet hings in terminals15:12
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pragmaticenigmabernyrd: Please ask your question in #debian ... Debian and Ubuntu are not similar enough for the knowledgebase here to provide accurate help15:12
SomeTall of it15:12
SomeTeyah I thought you would say VIM15:13
bernyrdthey usually are or I would not waste your time pragmaticenigma15:13
bernyrdbut yes there are big differences15:13
pragmaticenigma!debian | bernyrd15:13
ubottubernyrd: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!15:13
SomeTwhat about15:13
bernyrdthis is not dependency or repo issue pragmaticenigma15:13
bernyrdis just udev and/or modprobe15:14
bernyrdgets to point where the kernel module binaries matter, yes fine I go elsewhere15:14
tomreynbernyrd: we can really only support you here if you run a supported ubuntu release.15:14
JimBuntuSomeT, this really isn't a good place for polls or such like this, you may do better asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or even in ##linux since it's not an 'Ubuntu' question15:14
pragmaticenigmabernyrd: Our community does not support debian. It is not a debate we're interested in having. There is a reason for there to be two channel and as such, topics of inquery should match the channel topic.15:14
bernyrdI guess if you don't want to help ok, but no one even tried. some things would not be worht trying. don't know why this is not worth it.15:15
SomeTk thx15:15
bernyrdis just udev. maybe a good wiki article?15:15
kingfisher64hello all. what is the best way to mount a linux drive in windows? I've used samba to create the shares. Password protected them. At present it's accessible from \\localIP\Documents for example in windows explorer - pinned on taskbar.15:16
kingfisher64Perhaps there's a better way I can setup in ubuntu to it can be seen another way?15:16
pragmaticenigmabernyrd: Debian uses a different build process and different archetecture choices than Ubuntu. Your question goes right into those archetecture type differences. That's why we're encouraging you to ask in a more appropriate channel.15:16
matteotancahi all15:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825006 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "snapp apps not showing in software center" [Undecided,New]15:16
tomreynkingfisher64: vfat32 file systems usually provide the best compatibility btween ubuntu and windows.15:17
bernyrdpragmaticenigma: I did already ask, but have exhausted help available right now. I can work around things in a different place. But issue is basically I tell udev to do a thing and it doesn't, and I tell modprobe to do a thing and it doesn't. There is no good reference material for either?15:17
tomreynkingfisher64: ubuntu can also write to ntfs if the file system is ain a good state.15:17
tomreynkingfisher64: your question about "what is the best softwar eon windows to..." is a windows support question, we do not handle these here. you can ask in ##windows, or try #ubuntu-offtopic15:18
JimBuntukingfisher64, You should be able to "map" that shared resource to a drive letter. I can't remember exactly how, depends on your version of Windows.15:19
BluesKajkingfisher64, https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/15:19
JimBuntukingfisher64, I agree with tomreyn though, it's not an Ubuntu support question15:19
LordDragonnacc: thank you. what are the differences between those two?15:20
kingfisher64Right okay guys, I just wondered if I could have done something better in ubuntu that would have enabled things to work better in windows. Tha'ts why I asked here in case my initial shared setup was wrong :)15:20
tomreynkingfisher64: for a file sharing approach, samba is probably a good choice for your use case.15:21
LordDragonnacc: nevermind. i see they are the same :)15:21
leftyfbkingfisher64: mind you, sharing and mounting can be 2 different issues. If you're trying to mount a local ext4 drive on your windows machine, that requires Windows software which supports ext3/4 (not recommended). If you're running both the ubuntu machine and Windows machine on the network at the same time, that's sharing and over SMB/CIFS is your best bet15:22
BluesKajkingfisher64, windows shares are fairly simple to connect to from linux  try ext2fs app in windows for linux shares from windows15:22
leftyfbBluesKaj: ext2fs has nothing to do with samba shares from Ubuntu.15:23
kingfisher64thank you for all your suggestions tomreyn, JimBuntu, BluesKaj, leftyfb :)15:24
BluesKajleftyfb, I should have qualified that...just remembered that's for dual booting on the same drive15:24
LordDragonpragmaticenigma: so i dont know why, but this new 18.04 install seems to still have a damn /boot directory ! i dunno if my VPS provider's cdrom install image is setup to do it that way automatically or what. when i type "df" it doesnt show up, but ls -l / defintely shows a "boot" dir15:24
leftyfbBluesKaj: correct. Mounting local drives15:24
JimBuntuLordDragon, directories don't show up in DF unless they are also 'mount points'15:25
leftyfbLordDragon: you're supposed to have a /boot directory. Unless you're running an unsupported version of ubuntu or a container15:25
kingfisher64it's on 2 different machines not dual booting. Ubuntu is the server/backup and windows work machine.15:25
LordDragonJimBuntu: oh ok. hmm i figured it would look different in a ls -l if it was some sort of symlink type of thing15:25
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: I expect it to have a /boot... what I had said earlier is you're no longer required to have a mounted partition assigned to /boot15:26
LordDragonpragmaticenigma: so having a mounted partition assigned to boot is what causes it to get "full" and thing sbreak?15:27
ubottuFor release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases15:27
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: Your issues before were due to the fact that the partition where /boot was found would fill up with the previous kernel images if not regularly maintained. It used to be common practice to create a /boot partition to ensure the BIOS could find the boot files. That is no longer the case and as such, the /boot directory can live within the main root parition/drive15:28
LordDragonpragmaticenigma: hmm ok. so its still gonna fill up, it will just have lots more room now to do so?15:29
pragmaticenigmaLordDragon: If you run out of space now, you have bigger problems.15:30
kingfisher64leftyfb: it's just at present \\DeviceIP\folder to access ubuntu samba share in windows isn't ideal. It works but I would have liked for example it to show up in network. Like was said though the ubuntu side of things is a good setup so it's not surprisingly a windows issue - i'll do some research on that15:30
leftyfbkingfisher64: ask for help in #windows for getting Windows to search the network for shares and/or mapping shares to drive letters15:31
kingfisher64yep will do :)15:31
qwebirc90554Hello, can someone help me with installing ubuntu via USB... I burn the latest iso to usb with unetbootin and change the boot priority from bios to usb first.. when booting to where grub list should pop up I only get a grub minimal bash15:33
qwebirc90554At this time my purpose is to only test how my system is compatible with the distro, live-cd..15:33
pragmaticenigma!usb | qwebirc90554, please follow the instructions on the installation guide:15:34
ubottuqwebirc90554, please follow the instructions on the installation guide:: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:34
leftyfbqwebirc90554: use etcher.io to write the ubuntu image to your usb15:34
qwebirc90554unetbootin is not viable anymore?15:34
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc90554: It hasn't been for a few years now15:35
leftyfbqwebirc90554: it doesn't work as well as etcher.io for basic writing15:35
qwebirc90554right, well ill try that, thanks guys15:35
tomreynqwebirc90554: also make sure that the .iso file you downloaded is actually complete and intact.15:35
qwebirc90554it should be15:36
tomreynit surely should be, but is it? :)15:36
qwebirc90554downloaded it twice15:36
qwebirc90554with my older board I had problems with dualboot, now im hoping that this z370 board will be a bit better for that15:37
tomreyn!verify | qwebirc9055415:37
ubottuqwebirc90554: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:37
tomreynthis is a better way to verify15:37
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qwebirc90554ubottu: 69809dc7e058b81bc781fe3e24d3204f15:42
ubottuUbottu bug 84429 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #69809 Crash after partitioning" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8442915:42
qwebirc90554dunno what i do with this15:42
tomreynqwebirc90554: what happens if you do a web search for it?15:46
qwebirc90554well yea im an idiot15:46
qwebirc90554i get the iso15:47
qwebirc90554so I guess it's fine...15:47
tomreynmy proper answer should have been that you need to check it against the contents of the MD5SUMS (os SHA1SUMS or SHA256SUMS, deoending on the type of checksum you created)  file you find in the download directory. such as http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/15:48
tomreynqwebirc90554: ^15:48
tomreyni.e. look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/MD5SUMS15:48
tomreynand yes, it seem to be fine15:49
qwebirc90554:P, thanks anyways15:50
qwebirc90554Well I just hope that the balenaetcher works a bit better than unetbootin now so I can see the grub list atleast15:50
qwebirc90554is there any possibility to boot into the live segment from the grub minimal bash like thingy15:51
SubCoolok.. - So. im sure it is possible. But- i wanna make sure before i getmyself into a nother troublesome/useless  project.15:51
SubCoolI would like to install a live imagine on a MCC card, but- i know it wont boot naturally from BIOS> - Can i alter GRUB or W.e. to load from the MCC drive? Or would that be dependent on the system loading up more drivers?15:52
SkyriderAs I've asked in the ubuntu-server, can't really appear to find it so need some more input.. I know there's a linux package where it checks a directory for user/group changes. If it changes, it'll change it back. Any idea what it is called?15:55
qwebirc90554tomreyn: am on my phone here as Zeroci if you like to answer if I can use the grub bash thing to boot into live mode without the normal list15:56
qwebirc90554but im trying to reboot now after burning with etcher15:56
pragmaticenigmaSkyrider: I am not aware of any sort of permissions keeper in the ubuntu software offerings15:58
ZerociAnd it works, tyvm. Now to test and see If get the dualboot working15:59
pragmaticenigmaZeroci: Have you made a backup of your important files?15:59
pragmaticenigmaSkyrider: The closest thing I can find to what you have described is this: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1010716:00
pragmaticenigma!info auditd16:00
ubottuauditd (source: audit): User space tools for security auditing. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.8.2-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 196 kB, installed size 658 kB16:00
grumblehi, how do I make apt run a command after a specific package was updated?16:04
grumblein particular i'm running a piece of java software and would like to automatically restart it when java gets updated16:05
ZerociPragmaticenigma , yes I have 2 hdds besides the system16:05
nCrazedgrumble: would restarting it after apt-updated regardless of whether java package was update be acceptable compromise?16:06
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grumblenCrazed: not really, i figured out how to do that but i'd really like a better alternative16:07
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nCrazedwhat I am getting at is that, since it appears to be ok for the application to be restarted automatically, why spend disproportional amount of effort on restarting it only when java was updated?16:08
cpcathow can I trouble shoot how a server has crashed if the screen is black, and cannot ssh into it?  Is this a kernel panic?16:08
cryptodancpcat: head to the server rack or physical keyboard and troubleshoot from there16:09
analogicalno more daily builds?16:10
pragmaticenigma!details | analogical16:10
ubottuanalogical: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.16:10
cpcatcryptodan: yes, but the screen is black, and no response with mouse and keyboard.16:11
cryptodancpcat: poer cycle it16:11
pragmaticenigmacpcat: Once you have the machine rebooted, journalctl can help you track down why it died16:11
analogicalpragmaticenigma, didn't you understand my question?16:11
pragmaticenigmaanalogical: There is no context or subject... daily builds of "what" ?16:12
grumblenCrazed: well i wasnt aware it would be a disproportional amount of effort16:12
analogicalpragmaticenigma, are you bleeping kidding me??16:12
pragmaticenigma!guidelines | analogical16:12
ubottuanalogical: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines16:12
lordcirth__analogical, if you are referring to 19.04, that's discussed in #ubuntu+1 until release.16:12
cpcatI'm on 14.04 no journalctl16:12
lordcirth__cpcat, are you aware that 14.04 will be EOL very soon?16:13
analogicalthanks lordcirth__16:13
cpcatwe're bound by legacy software for the moment.16:15
cpcatwhat can I do for now?  Just look in /var/log?16:16
pragmaticenigmacpcat: That's about all there is16:16
pragmaticenigma!esm | cpcat, it would be recommended your company consider16:17
ubottucpcat, it would be recommended your company consider: Canonical offers paid extended security support for end-of-life LTS releases through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly.16:17
lordcirth__xmark, hi16:20
xmarkhi lordcirth16:20
xmarkI am a newbie and I have many doubts ...16:21
lordcirth__xmark, this is the Ubuntu support channel. Do you have a specific support question?16:23
xmarkI have problems especially with the gcc that I have16:24
xmarkI think it stops the system does not freeze, if someone has happened ... please tell me how I solve it16:25
lordcirth__xmark, I don't understand you. What is your native language? There are specific channels for other languages.16:26
tomreyn!es | xmark16:27
ubottuxmark: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:27
xmarkok lordcirth__ thank you I'll keep looking16:27
flotwig\o rory16:38
eaglgenes101I think I made progress on understanding the problem I have with new windows not getting focus. For some reason, new windows don't start with focus if there is a maximized window already open. Otherwise, they do start with focus. I think this is a bug.16:47
eaglgenes101My first suspect was dash to dock, but disabling it doesn't stop the unusual behavior. Focus behavior configuration, as far as I can tell, is defaults.16:50
lordcirth__motoe4, hi16:54
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motoe4hi, lordcirth__16:54
ioriaeaglgenes101, yes, it's default unless the focus is stolen by  a notification popup17:04
eaglgenes101So how do I modify this behavior?17:06
ioriaeaglgenes101, or you disable Notification (is systemsettings) or set  org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences focus-new-windows to 'strict'17:07
ChetManlyhow come I cannot ssh to vbox guest without turning the guest nic to bridged17:08
pragmaticenigmaChetManly: virtual box sets up it's guest machines behind a NAT firewall. You can setup the virtual machine confiugration to forward the targetted port to the virtualized environment.17:12
pragmaticenigmaChetManly: For further assinstance on VirtualBox, I'd encourage you to check out #vbox17:13
ioria 2222 it's easy to remember17:13
ChetManlypragmaticenigma: Im reading that the guest will lose connectivity if you just bridge, is that true?17:13
pragmaticenigmaChetManly: I do not understand what you mean, can you please point me in the direction of where you found that information?17:14
egyptian_i have a very unique use case where i have to use root login _without_ a password . ssh keys are not possible. i have come up with this sshd_config which does not work on ubuntu18   https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/caqfksBxSAXmFtoc-MEvSA17:14
adrian_1908When applying a netplan config (for systemd-networkd), where do those produced config files actually go? I can't seem to find them.17:14
topha736Has anyone noticed 19.04 beta burning down their laptop battery faster, particularly when hibernating?17:16
pragmaticenigmaegyptian_: I do hope that machine is behind a firewall without public access. This article should help get you going: https://linuxconfig.org/allow-ssh-root-login-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux17:16
pragmaticenigma!ubuntu+1 | topha73617:16
ubottutopha736: Disco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+117:16
egyptian_pragmaticenigma: yes its one of 3 nodes on a specially built vlan .. and thank you17:17
ioriaadrian_1908,   try   sudo networkctl status -a17:18
egyptian_pragmaticenigma: still getting the password prompt :(17:18
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pragmaticenigmaegyptian_: I'm not sure how to enable that, perhaps the folks in #openssh channel might be able to help you get your configuration working?17:21
adrian_1908ioria: awesome, thanks! The file in question was in /run/systemd/network/ but I only thought to look in /etc/systemd/... and /lib/systemd/...17:22
ioriaadrian_1908,   ok17:22
egyptian_pragmaticenigma: thank you .. will do17:28
ibsTrying to activate my wifi connection on boot with Ubuntu Server 18.04.2.. where should one start to dig? Netplan? systemd.network? wpa_supplicant service?17:31
cryptodanwireless on a server is a bad idea17:34
lordcirth__ibs, netplan, I think - but why wifi on a server?17:35
ibscryptodan: Of course I know that.. server on a laptop is as well. ;-)17:35
pragmaticenigmacryptodan: We all have our own needs and reasons for operating a system a specific way. Please try and help, if you don't have a solution, please let others try and help.17:35
ibsIt's not a real server.. just wanted ubuntu without gui. Should I have chosen another way to get there?17:35
pragmaticenigmaibs: Your approach is just fine17:36
ioriaibs, /etc/neplan/01-netcfg.yaml (wpasupplicat should be already installed)17:36
pragmaticenigmaibs: The core of Desktop versus Server are the same. The differences are the tools used to manage. Desktop will setup with the intention of using GUI tools to manage, Server will setup with the intention of CLI interfaces and config files being managed.17:36
ibspragmaticenigma: Perfect.. exactly what I wanted.17:37
* ibs smiles17:37
ioriaibs,  for an example : cat /usr/share/doc/netplan.io/examples/wireless.yaml17:37
ibsioria: Wow, great.. thanks!17:37
ibsI was on the track previously.. but was missing the access-points section.17:42
tomreynegyptian_: your use case puzzles me, i can't think of a good use of ssh remote root without authentication. if you would like to discuss possible alternative (maybe better?) approaches, let me know.17:47
egyptian_tomreyn: thanks17:50
tomreynegyptian_: it's a bit off-topic here, so feel free to join me in #egyptianssh17:52
ibsIt works. Excellent.. thank you for your fine attitude towards my situation.17:55
* ibs bows deeply17:55
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ubuntufanHello. I'm running 18.04 and today after a reboot my machine only boots to console. When I check syslog, I see that nouveau is crashing for some reason. Is there a way around this? I've tried setting nomodeset in my grub config.18:16
tomreynubuntufan: hi. can you share the crash log?18:17
tomreynyou can post the entire log online using  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999918:18
tomreynthat's the system log since the latest boot18:18
tomreynif this seems like too much, you could post just the very crash log and the kernel version (cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline)18:20
vityaче по протон пасаны?)18:20
teward!ru | vitya, this was said before to you18:21
ubottuvitya, this was said before to you: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:21
atheodohi, i want to be able to remote login to an ubuntu client18:21
atheodois reminna good for that?18:22
atheodointerested doing remote assistance for my mother18:22
ubuntufantomreyn: going to try one more reboot, then I'll give it a shot18:23
tomreynatheodo: enable desktop sharing and install an ssh server at your mom's (allowing ssh key authentication only), and place your ssh key in her /home/mom/ssh/.authorized_keys. then use vinagre or another vnc client through an ssh tunnel to connect to her pc and share the screen with her.18:24
tomreynremmina should also work18:24
cryptodanthats if you can open up inbound ports for ssh and others on your moms router18:25
tomreynatheodo: you'll also need to setup "dyndns" in case her internet address changes occasionally.18:25
atheodoI see18:25
tomreynand you'll need to port forward, too, yes.18:26
atheodowill it help if I get a static ip from comcast?18:26
atheodocan i then just vnc natively18:26
tomreynnot really needed but could make it easier. if its cheap, or free18:26
atheodoI can get a static for $5/month18:26
tomreynyou should always tunnel through ssh18:26
atheodoI will double check18:26
tomreynvnc's native encryption is not good.18:27
atheodoif we get a static ip the pc will be completely exposed18:27
atheodook I will play around a bid and see18:27
atheodonow, i stepped on system7618:27
atheodoare their computers really worth the price?18:27
tomreyn!ot | atheodo18:28
ubottuatheodo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:28
atheodolooking for a good ubuntu laptop, i built my own desktops18:28
tomreynjoin the offtopic channel, i'm sure you can get recommendations there18:28
atheodolet me go there for that18:28
atheodothank you18:28
tomreynyou're welcome18:29
atheodoso if i can't get a static ip, i can do a port forward from the router18:30
atheodojust need to ssh to the router address18:30
atheodoand then what does the port forward do?18:30
atheodolets say her modem has an ip
atheodoso i ping that and sign onto the router18:30
atheodohow do i get to the ubuntu machine18:31
xamithanforward the port and turn off the firewall for it18:31
lordcirth__atheodo, the Ubuntu machine needs to have openssh-server installed. I recommend allowing keys only if you are going to open it to the internet.18:32
atheodoapt-get install openssh18:32
atheodowould do it? or do i go via the store for installation + config18:32
cryptodanatheodo: you will likely need to be at the router to access it18:32
OerHeksreally, ubunu gives wiki's18:40
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)18:40
SchrodingersScatoh wow, I was wondering what was up with my pulseaudio.  I guess my webcam was the culprit...somehow?  unplug it and pavucontrol straightened up.18:45
OerHeksoh, good find, SchrodingersScat18:47
OerHeksmaybe an usb3 ( blue) port?18:47
SchrodingersScatOerHeks: oh, oh really? that can matter?  Because Yes! it was in a usb3 port.  I had a bunch of these lines but thought it was unrelated, because I wasn't considering that the webcam would be something that inputs audio and thus probably related to pulse, [29161.296738] usb 1-3: 3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x8618:48
OerHekssome devices do give such troubles, yes18:49
SchrodingersScatalso running motionEye, if that's known to cause any audio problems? /me shrugs18:49
OerHekssometimes audio issues are fixed in the bios, if that gives an AC'97 option18:51
OerHeksbut that would trottle back to 2.118:52
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SchrodingersScatnow that pavucontrol works, any idea how to add it back to the xubuntu panel?18:54
SchrodingersScatOerHeks: oh, I'm so dumb, it was a separate panel thing.  Thanks and good night #ubuntuuuuuu!19:00
SchrodingersScatprobably just removed it in my shenanigans19:01
ioriaSchrodingersScat, indicator-plugin  i think19:01
ioriaSchrodingersScat, from the xfce4-indicator-plugin pkg19:02
SchrodingersScatit's actually the pulseaudio-plugin19:02
ioriaah, ok19:03
SchrodingersScatxfce4-panel -r19:03
ckopn how i can  see  files with installed paths of a package?19:11
ckopnor list of files in package19:12
leftyfbckopn: dpkg -L <package>19:13
SchrodingersScatckopn: does apt-file help you out?  good for searching in the files of packages.19:13
ckopnthanks , i will try19:13
leftyfbapt-file will work but takes longer. Ff you already know the package name, use dpkg -L19:14
leftyfbif it's installed19:14
sambagirlanything new regarding touchscreen?19:16
leftyfbsambagirl: Your question is not a support question. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discussion generalizations or theoreticals. Go to #ubuntu+1 to discuss new features in the next version of ubuntu19:17
atheodosudo apt install net-tools19:25
atheodois that ok to execute?19:25
atheodoi am trying to do an ifconfig19:25
atheodoand the machine tells me it's not installed19:25
atheodohow can ifconfig not be installed?19:25
ioriait's deprecated , but it works (afaik)19:25
lordcirth__atheodo, use 'ip' instead.19:26
atheodolike windows ok thank you19:26
lordcirth__'ip addr' is similar to running 'ifconfig' without arguments19:26
heywoodlhatheodo: ip addr19:26
atheodobingo :-)19:27
atheodook i got [lo] ; [eno1]; [wlx]19:28
atheodoeno1 i take it is my wired and wlx is my wireless19:28
atheodowhat is lo?19:28
heywoodlhloopback interface19:28
atheodooh that is the local host19:29
atheodofor servers right?19:29
heywoodlhNot necessarily for servers per se but yeah, you could say it's for localhost19:29
lordcirth__lo is used for all sorts of things, but you should never need to change anything about it19:30
atheodook , yes not touching anything :-)19:30
atheodojust looking right now19:30
heywoodlhYeah, but good question19:30
Captain_HaddockHi, I'm looking to VNC into my Kubuntu box. The VNC is working fine. But once I disconnect my monitor and reboot the system, I see a very small screen when I VNC back in. How can I tell the system to assume that there's a display connected?19:32
Captain_HaddockI've tried installing a dummy xorg display but that hasn't worked.19:32
lotuspsychjeCaptain_Haddock: be carefull with vnc for security reasons, cant you do your work over ssh?19:33
Captain_Haddocklotuspsychje: It's a local system.19:33
lotuspsychjeCaptain_Haddock: none of your machines are connected to the internet?19:34
Captain_Haddocklotuspsychje: They are.19:34
compdocCaptain_Haddock, I havent used vnc for a long time, but it should be able to work on a headless server19:37
Captain_Haddockcompdoc: VNC works fine. I think the system just doesn't like the fact that there's no display connected.19:39
Captain_HaddockI think it's defaulting to a 640x480 display.19:39
Captain_HaddockRather than 1920x1080.19:40
compdocTheres a bios setting for render standby, that you could disable19:40
compdocdont need the gpu going to sleep19:40
Captain_Haddockcompdoc: A few solutions here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in Not sure which one is the most current.19:43
compdocCaptain_Haddock, try x2go19:45
vitimitiI have updated today my distro and the package keyboard-configuration was amongst the updates I had available. After the configuration of said package finished, whenever I change between my two keyboard layouts by pressing Meta+Space, the scroll lock light switches on and the scroll lock key seems to have lost all function. How can revert this?19:50
OerHeks!info xvfb19:50
ubottuxvfb (source: xorg-server): Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.19.6-1ubuntu4.2 (bionic), package size 815 kB, installed size 2390 kB19:50
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Captain_HaddockCreating a conf file appears to have fixed it. Thanks.20:06
chromeEvening, folks.20:09
chromeI need a little help with a bad Xorg session.20:09
lotuspsychje!details | chrome20:11
ubottuchrome: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.20:11
chromeIt's complaining about a missing xorg-video-abi-24, which is supposedly provided by xserver-xorg-core, but reinstalling it did absolutely nothing.20:11
lotuspsychjechrome: could you pastebin the full output complain, so volunteers can think with you20:11
chromeHow would I do that from the command line?20:11
chromeI'm stuck there at the moment.20:11
leftyfbchrome: what version of ubuntu?20:12
leftyfbchrome: and what did you do to break your "Xorg session"?20:12
chromeUpdate, really.20:13
chromeI had a custom xorg.conf file that I moved out, and it did not help, despite having been the source of some errors.20:13
chromeWithout the NVIDIA drivers, I can get to the desktop, but it freezes the moment it pops up.20:13
chromeAnd then leaves an empty xorg log.20:13
chromeAny other output that might help?20:15
tomreyn!who | chrome20:16
ubottuchrome: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:16
tomreynyour paste says "output". that's a bit funny and a lot not helpful.20:17
chromeI'm a little inexperienced with this.20:19
lotuspsychjechrome: can you tell us why you had a modified xorg?20:19
chromeThere was a 520 I wanted to get working.20:19
chromeBut this stuff did not happen until I actually updated the system.20:19
chromeHowever, the Xorg.0.log on a resumed recovery does exist.20:20
lotuspsychjechrome: can you pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a && sudo lshw -C video please?20:21
chromeGive me a moment.20:21
lotuspsychje!uptodate | chrome20:25
ubottuchrome: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.20:25
chrome^ did that already, no dice20:26
lotuspsychje!nvidia | chrome20:26
ubottuchrome: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa20:26
lotuspsychjechrome: gtx cards we reccomend a driver version from ubuntu graphics ppa^20:26
chromeExcept I can't even install Nouveau, and installing the binary drivers hangs on login.20:26
chromeI am trying to install from there.20:26
lotuspsychjechrome: try to get in your system with !nomodeset20:27
chromeThat shouldn't hang it?20:27
chromeAnd what do I do if it succeeds?20:27
atheodowhen we go through the updater app20:27
chromeI'm trying to install Nouveau again.20:27
lotuspsychjechrome: im off to sleep, if you need help other volunteers will support you here20:27
chromeAnd again, there's the missing abi package that it literally won't install.20:28
atheododo we still need to do the update/upgrade commands on the terminal as well?20:28
chromeThat is my main issue.20:28
tomreynchrome: you can also work from a text erminal if you press ctrl-alt-f320:28
chromeExcept that literally does not work when it hangs at login.20:29
chromeI tried.20:29
tomreynoh ok, then there is the rescue shell20:29
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode20:29
chromeWhich I went to, but that does not help at all with the abi package issue.20:29
chromeWhich is needed to install Nouveau.20:29
chromeWhich I am currently trying to do.20:29
tomreynnot directly, but it should help getting your system back into a working state20:30
chromeIt is in a functional enough state to solve the ABI issue.20:30
chromeI am typing from it as we speak.20:30
tomreynapparently you can already enter commands though?20:30
tomreyndid those apt commands report any warnings or errors?20:31
paulfanybody happen to know how long the Ubuntu 16.04 EC2 images will support new hardware? The first graphic on this page: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle makes it look like hardware support has already stopped for 16.04 but I'm not sure if that also applies to the AWS specific kernels which are also based off of the 4.4.0 GA kernel.. not the 4.15 HWE kernel20:32
atheodoi thought lts versions support hardware until the next lts version20:33
atheodoam I wrong?20:33
tomreynpaulf: /join #ubuntu-server    please20:33
tomreynchrome: thats the output of running which command?20:33
paulf@tomreyn will do, thx20:33
chromesudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau; sudo apt -f install; sudo apt install xorg-video-abi-24; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core20:34
chromeThe command line limits my pasting abilities a little.20:35
tomreynchrome: i would very much recommend you undo the x server upgrade. would you like helpwith this?20:35
chromeUndo what now?20:35
chromeI literally just updated from repos.20:35
chromeie: apt upgrade20:35
tomreynthe output you pasted states "xserver-xorg-core is already the newest version (3:1.17.3-2ubuntu4+dokomix1)."20:36
tomreynthis is not an ubuntu version20:36
chromeNevermind, let me do a PPA purge.20:36
chromeI was trying to get an 8670 working a few days ago.20:37
chromeThat's probably why.20:37
chromeGoing to try to reboot.20:37
tomreynyou're welcome20:37
chromeIf I don't return, you know what happened.20:37
byyzanybody here?20:49
Fuchsjust us bats20:51
tomreyn!support | hi byyz20:56
ubottuhi byyz: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com20:56
ChunkzZyou like doing that or what tomreyn ?20:57
* ChunkzZ laughsa20:57
tomreynerr, not the answer i was looking for. let us know if you have a support question20:57
ChunkzZthat's a yeah then...20:59
* ChunkzZ chuckles20:59
tomreynChunkzZ: we can chat in -offtopic21:04
Syllinon ubuntu 18.04, anyone know how to have systemd to /tmp cleanups without reboot?21:15
Syllindocs imply that it should, but it aint21:15
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pragmaticenigmaSyllin: are you certain the files arenot in use by a program or service?21:19
atheodoi will be back, but want to install ubuntu on my amd box so shutting this down21:19
Syllinpragmaticenigma: pretty sure. i just move trash to /tmp usually. i have some zip files for example21:19
Syllinnot sure what would be using them21:20
tomreynSyllin: /tmp would be cleaned up on reboot. did you expect it to be cleaned up within intervals (without rebooting)?21:21
Syllintomreyn: i see. then my output of `systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer` is pretty misleading21:22
Syllin"systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer - Daily Cleanup of Temporary Directories"21:22
Syllinpretty sure that systemd unit (or whatever they are calling it) came with my fresh install21:23
juanonymousAnyone familiar with termux here?21:24
aroonihow do i make the default editor for sudo crontab -e into vim and not whatever it is now21:28
arooninano apparently21:28
hggdharooni: probaly setting EDITOR=vim in your environment21:30
aroonioh interesting;  well who would that be then?  the root user?21:30
daxor to change the default editor systemwide, sudo update-alternatives --config editor21:30
arooniits already vim for crontab -e21:31
pragmaticenigmaSyllin: both of my systems have unaltered timers... and there is no timer for cleaning up my temporary folders. It's also not wise to have an automatic job wiping out the temp folders as it could cause programs to lose their active files.21:32
pragmaticenigmaSyllin: That is why the temporary folder is emptied on boot, before applications start to establish files in that folder which could mistakenly be removed later21:33
Syllinmakes sense, thanks pragmaticenigma21:34
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: I did find the timer they were talking about, it's in /lib/systemd/system/timers.target.wants/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer21:38
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: it only clears out systemd's temp files, not all system files21:40
pragmaticenigmaconfig in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf21:40
Jalinaciao a tutti21:58
jeremy31!it | Jalina21:59
ubottuJalina: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:59
tomreynpragmaticenigma: ah right, i stumbled into this one before, but forgot.22:01
tomreynSyllin: As pragmaticenigma pointed out, there is also  /lib/systemd/system/timers.target.wants/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer - which only clears out systemd's temp files, not all temp files22:02
tomreynSyllin: config in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf22:02
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Jalinaciao a tutti22:12
heelrayneris there a way to install ubuntu on a hardrrive without a usb or cd?22:24
heelraynerlike from windows directly?22:25
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents22:25
Mathisenheelrayner, short answer: nope.22:26
jeremy31heelrayner: The only way would be Ubuntu in a Windows VM22:27
Mathisenheelrayner, why cant you install it from usb/cd anyway ?22:27
heelrayneri don't have one.22:27
guivercheelrayner, you could create a partition on your drive; expand iso to that partition & boot that, install from that... a lot more work than usb-thumb-drive22:27
Mathisenheelrayner, use your phone22:27
heelraynertheres an app or?22:28
Mathisenheelrayner, depends on phone i use drivedroid myself on my android phone22:28
Mathisenyou can boot iso from phone with that22:28
heelraynerdo i need root?22:29
heelrayneri don't have root22:29
Avionnewnick total frustration. all i want is the name of the program to make a bootable system from an iso. i cant find..blabla. i am MATE18.04   THANKS22:29
tomreynAvion: use https://etcher.io22:30
Mathisenheelrayner, yes drivedroid needs root. but im kinda sure there is alternatives to it that dont need root22:31
tomreynthat's to write an installer iso to a usb stick, i'm assuming that's what you want22:31
tomreynAvion: ^22:31
tomreyn!wsl | heelrayner22:32
ubottuheelrayner: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide22:32
tomreynyou coul dplay with this until your usb stick arrives by snail mail.22:32
heelraynertom i already use that.22:33
tomreyni see22:33
Aviontomreyn: yes sir. i keep getting terminal i stuctions and I am not good at finding a file on a different partition and giving it the right name.. in terminal.22:33
heelraynercould i boot to a sd card?22:34
Aviontomreyn: thanks fot yoir condescension. i have done this many times but i dont remember the name of the program. hey i am lady and used to getting dissed..22:35
Mathisenheelrayner, if you bios has option for it sure.22:35
Avioni dont have windows. i have 18.04 Mate as I said.22:35
tomreynAvion: i pointed you to a graphical application you can download and install22:36
Avioni am using mate ubu 18.04 and want to make a bootable usb from an iso file.22:37
tomreynAvion: and this application lets you easily write an ISO file (you need to download that beforehand) to a USB storage. this works on any of the major operating systems.22:37
Avionthere is a program built in.22:37
Avioni have a number of isos22:37
tomreynAvion: usb-creator-gtk22:37
MathisenAvion, alternative to a gui one is dd. simple to use " dd  if=foobar.iso of=/dev/YOUR_USB bs=1MB " done22:37
tomreynaka "start media creator"22:38
Avionyou gave me a WINDOWS program.22:38
tomreyncat also works with hybrid isos22:38
tomreynAvion: i gave you a cross platform software22:38
Avioni dont want to use terminal as I said.22:38
tomreynAvion: okay, i got so much, which isos do you have?22:40
jeremy31Avion, Ubuntu should have Startup Disk Creator22:40
Avionjeremy31: thanks. i am on mate and dont see it. i also dont see logout so I can switch to gnome. frusTRAYtion. i dont habe internet except on my phone. so I eill reboot it and see what gnome or cinnamon has to offer. thanks again.22:41
pragmaticenigmaAvion: If you were more patient and actually followed the instructions that tomreyn provided, you would know that etcher.io is a graphical tool for multiple platforms, including linux, used to make bootable USB drives from ISOs. The program is well known and works well for creating Ubuntu Boot Disks. You need to calm down, and fully read the suggestions and places people direct you to22:42
Avionpragmaticenigma: sorry you didn't ask before criting me. i dont have internet on the computer. this is my phone I am on.22:43
pragmaticenigmaAvion: Chill out, we are volunteers here and there is no reason to take that tone with anyone. You will only succeed in being ignored22:44
AvionAvion changes nick to putonyouteacherhat instead of your parent hat22:44
pragmaticenigmaAvion: If "Startup Disk Creator" is not available on your computer, and you are unwilling to use the terminal, the you are out of luck. The disk creator tool is not installed by default.22:45
daxdd is22:45
pragmaticenigmadax: That is terminal... read more carefully please22:45
jeremy31Avion: cannot USB tether to the phone for internet?22:45
Avioni am good. i said i started out FRUSTRATED because I spent 20 minutes  searching online and kept running into wrong stuff. i know there is an U intu user site that explains it beautifully and I was hoping ubottu would lead me to it22:45
daxpragmaticenigma: ah, duh, was skimming22:46
daxi get a bit bored when there's bickering in here and stop paying much attention22:46
Aviongnome doesnt like my logitech kb and the laptop one is munged.22:47
Avionhi dax. all i want is the ubuntu help file to learn what to use to make a live usb. problems like gnome wo t see my kb keep coming up. mate doesnt have startup disk creator by that name.22:49
Avioni have done this before too.22:49
Avionsorry to be a bother.22:49
pragmaticenigmaAvion: You've been given several solutions, it's unfortunate that they don't appear to meet your needs or current situation. Best option now would be to call up a friend with an internet connection, ask if you can use it to create your boot disk. As was mentioned earlier, etcher.io works on multiple platforms, so it is very likely you can create your disk on another computer. etcher.io does not require installation and can easily22:52
pragmaticenigmabe removed when you're done.22:52
Avionto all. i rebooted i to gnome. my kb works. i have startup disk creator. smart minds like simple solutions. ubuntu has it built in. stay smart. bye22:58
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Avionflyi have a dummy question. if I want to search the qhat do you call it? /home/myname  for *.iso in the gui, how do I do it?23:14
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lapidaryI have an SBC that I login to with /dev/ttyACM0  Ubuntu assumes this is a modem for connecting to the internet with.  What can I do about that?23:33
ffejjhi... assistance with google PPAs?23:37
tomreynffejj: no thanks, doing fine here.23:45
tomreynAvionfly: which ubuntu version, and graphical desktop? /home/myname is usually referred to as a"users' home directory"23:46
ffejji started getting GPG errors for them when doing sudo apt update23:46
tomreynffejj: it's been brought up here before, but since none of us manages them and there's no way you could fix it client-side, we can't really help.23:47
tomreynyou won't have this issue with ubuntu archive mirrors23:47
ffejjoh, ok.  thanks.  glad to know i'm not the only one who asked.  i will look into this 'mirrors'23:48
tomreynlapidary: try to install minicom, (gnu) screen or tmux and then pass this device path as an argument to it.23:52

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