| tsimonq2 | guiverc: Could you please mark some results on the ISO QA tracker? :) | 01:19 |
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| tsimonq2 | I'd like to mark it as ready in case this is it. | 01:19 |
| tsimonq2 | (HOPEFULLY it will be! Fingers crossed! ...please?) | 01:20 |
| guiverc | what results tsimonq2 ? OKay ... new ISO build has emptied it all :( i'll start zsync | 02:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> :( | 02:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Just the testcases | 02:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I really REALLY appreciate your testing, you're the man guiverc :) | 02:57 |
| guiverc | ps: I'm assuming you mean these http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/403/builds/191454/testcases | 02:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yes | 02:58 |
| guiverc | :) (only 2 of theme! cf. to phab....) | 02:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yep :) | 02:59 |
| guiverc | tsimonq2, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/403/builds/191454/testcases better now | 03:38 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: what do i do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1824910 ? it seems this would affect any system and isn't necessarily our bug.. but it seems we should have something in the notes.. or do we not have a bug re: drivers? | 05:01 |
| ubot93 | Ubuntu bug 1824910 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-drivers fail to install Nvidia divers without Internet connection in Lubuntu Disco Dingo" [Undecided, New] | 05:01 |
| * wxl is confused, apparently | 05:07 | |
| wxl | did anyone finish the last three bits on the testing checklist? https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ | 05:08 |
| wxl | OH SHOOT SOMEONE NEEDS TO TEST 18.10 → 19.04 UPGRADES | 05:37 |
| guiverc | booting up my 8200 (fedora) in hopes I have a vm with 18.10 installed (the fedora isn't used as much so has disk space...) i could always install 18.10, dist-upgrade, reboot then do-release-upgrade on a box.. | 05:44 |
| wxl | guiverc: that'd be good. you shouldn't need to dist-upgrade. do-release-upgrade should refresh your cache and upgrade anything that needs to upgrade afaik. | 05:45 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#953 | 05:46 | |
| guiverc | :( it looks like i used it for some other test... i'd have to install 18.10 (not using my x86 box -- >30oC already & pentium4 ~= heater) | 05:48 |
| guiverc | wxl, vm good enough? (i'll do real hardware if I run into probs b/c I don't know vbox well enough) | 05:49 |
| wxl | guiverc: yes | 05:49 |
| wxl | guiverc: btw did you ever figure out on-screen keyboard with fcitx and your tablet | 05:50 |
| guiverc | nah - but I don't really care. it was only me trying to use that device (testing) as I'd like it to be used (if i used it as a tablet, me I like model m keyboards & real screens..) | 05:51 |
| wxl | well i'd like to know how that works frankly | 05:51 |
| wxl | there's likely a package we're missing | 05:51 |
| guiverc | maybe later .. you'll have to ask me later as right now I'll focus on 18.10->19.04 (I can't trust my memory/concentration for 2 things..) | 05:53 |
| wxl | no problem | 05:53 |
| guiverc | it'll be real hardware... looking for thumb-drive (though feeding birds first) | 06:00 |
| wxl | pets? | 06:00 |
| wxl | oooh anonscm.debian.org finally redirects to salsa.d.o | 06:04 |
| guiverc | nah wild birds.. i could send you a photo link but I posted them g+ (120+ little corella today....) | 06:19 |
| wxl | nice | 06:20 |
| guiverc | parrots - so noisy is what most would probably say :) | 06:22 |
| wxl | guiverc: whoa where are you that you have parrots? | 06:25 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> did anyone finish the last three bits on the testing checklist? https://ph …], Full disk install without encryption on efi with secure boot is tested. I have it that way only rn in my system | 06:32 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> well i'd like to know how that works frankly], I used it once. Didn't pay much attention then. Want me to check it? | 06:34 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker remind me of context again? | 06:34 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [I used it once. Didn't pay much attention then. Want me to check it?], I was talking about on screen keyboard here. Using fcitx. | 06:35 |
| wxl | ah yes if you could that would be great. not urgent. add it to the task re: fcitx | 06:36 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Full disk install without encryption on efi with secure boot is tested. I have i …], And here I was talking about the last 3 remaining bits of checklist. I see the full disk without encryption on efi systems is not marked there. I have it that way installed. No problems there. | 06:37 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker could you edit that table appropriately please? | 06:39 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Sure. | 06:39 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> But rn I am a bit busy. Will do as soon as I reach home. | 06:40 |
| wxl | k | 06:40 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: last little things before release] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 | 06:58 | |
| guiverc | 18.10 installed on hardware (d780) & dist-upgrading now (320 packages to..) --- reboot & do-release-upgrade will occur eventually | 07:03 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG77f6a05561f1: emprettify known bugs format] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG77f6a05561f1 | 07:09 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG35bb1b94e170: missing parens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG35bb1b94e170 | 07:10 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG071cd59b27c8: stupid parens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG071cd59b27c8 | 07:13 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG7d8acdb0ba80: known ubuntu bugs link] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG7d8acdb0ba80 | 07:16 | |
| wxl | i'm going to hit the hay but there is an upgrade item on the last bits checklist guiverc so you can update that https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 07:20 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] last little things before release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 | 07:20 | |
| guiverc | :) i was expecting you to disappear before now... sleep well! | 07:22 |
| guiverc | wxl, `do-release-upgrade -d` success (18.10 -> 19.04) | 09:14 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: what do i do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubu …], I just saw this referenced in ubuntu-release, and it was rightly pointed out that Ubuntu and flavours will not ship the Nvidia propriatary drivers on media, so that will rightly fail | 10:24 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> I suppose the bug is that this should fail gracefully, with an explanation to the user | 10:27 |
| guiverc | stupid question; how do you `do-release-upgrade -d` using gui tools (18.10 to 19.04) | 11:31 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> You enable upgrade for every version not just for long term release versions. Then check for updates and download them. | 12:44 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> While checking for updates. It should notify you that there is an update available which takes 18.10 to 19.04 | 12:47 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @guiverc [<guiverc> stupid question; how do you `do-release-upgrade -d` using gui tools (1 …], pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE & … or … pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 & | 12:47 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> to force it ;) | 12:48 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [You enable upgrade for every version not just for long term release versions. Th …], Does this not work? @acheronuk | 12:49 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I was actually trying it yesterday in my vm. From 18.04 to 18.10 but had to leave for some work. Haven't touched my pc since then. | 12:50 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @The_LoudSpeaker [Does this not work? @acheronuk], Yes, but I assumed they were looking for an equivalent command, not a method | 12:50 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> my assumption may be wrong | 12:51 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> He said he was looking for a gui way. | 12:51 |
| guiverc | thanks acheronuk, but I don't see those as what users would do (I'm trying to complete https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 GUI upgrade item), The_LoudSpeaker I didn't find any option to in gui menus.. where was what you used? | 12:51 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] last little things before release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 | 12:51 | |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @The_LoudSpeaker [He said he was looking for a gui way.], What I posted is a GUI way | 12:51 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> In fact, now I think, your method won't work until the release metadata gets updated, which it won't be until a day or so after release | 12:53 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc [<guiverc> thanks acheronuk, but I don't see those as what users would do (I'm tr …], It's in the same dialogue box which has additional drivers option. I for got the name. I will tell you in a bit. Give me 10 mins. Just reaching campus. | 12:53 |
| guiverc | wxl listed GUI & TUI 18.10->19.04, I saw the do-release-upgrade -d as the text way..; expecting to find a menu option for gui (ie. menu; it could be the -d (development) means the menu item I'm looking for doesn't show yet.. | 12:53 |
| guiverc | yep - acheronuk, i was thinking as you. (re: not showing yet) | 12:54 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> Fwd from acheronuk: pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -d -f DistUpgradeViewKDE & … or … pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -d -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 & | 12:54 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> guiverc: that will work with the -d | 12:54 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @acheronuk [In fact, now I think, your method won't work until the release metadata gets upd …], Yup! Correct. | 12:55 |
| guiverc | it's late, I'm tired... I'll do it in the morning... but thanks! | 12:55 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#972 | 15:08 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 regarding galternatives https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lxqt-config-on-debian-recommends-galternatives/698/2 | 15:08 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> @wxl [<wxl> OH SHOOT SOMEONE NEEDS TO TEST 18.10 → 19.04 UPGRADES], If this still needs to be done let me know, and I can do it. | 15:24 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @EgenhoferJ [If this still needs to be done let me know, and I can do it.], Please :) | 15:25 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Sure. :) Anything fancy you would like me to be on the look out for? | 15:26 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Not particularly. Perhaps to see if the wallpaper and such changed. | 15:27 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Maybe poke around for 5-10 mins, just see if there's anything obvious | 15:27 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Okie dokie artichokie :) | 15:27 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thank you! | 15:28 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Were there any final decisions on changes to the grub naming? | 15:28 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Just wondering so I can look for it. :) | 15:28 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> No, no changes to the naming | 15:28 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Here is something that bugs me and I haven't been able to fix. | 15:47 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> The paper icon theme applies to the FF launcher. | 15:47 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> But not to it's item in the window list. | 15:47 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Err, task manager? | 15:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Wat o_O | 15:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That's weeeird | 15:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> 19.04? | 15:48 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> 18.10 | 15:48 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Working on the upgrade. | 15:48 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> It's something I noticed a while ago that's been bugging the shite out of me. | 15:48 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> See what it looks like then :) | 15:48 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Will see if it continues in the upgrade :) | 15:48 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks | 15:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @EgenhoferJ [But not to it's item in the window list.], which items? | 15:49 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> It's indicator in the task manager | 15:49 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [which items?], See the two different Firefox logos? | 15:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [See the two different Firefox logos?], aaa, weid, ity doesn't happened to me | 15:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> unless... | 15:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I remember seeing that somewhere in time | 15:50 |
| wxl[m] | Someone want to send an image those of us not on telegram can see? | 15:51 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> throwing on imgur one sec | 15:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mm, couldn't make it happen again | 15:54 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> https://imgur.com/a/omCbILR | 15:55 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> update and see what happenes (including firefox update) | 15:55 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Working on it. | 15:55 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> I've got slow DSL it takes time lol | 15:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> shouldn't be the case, but running apps with sudo makes the use other icon-set | 15:56 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Hmm | 15:57 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Weird. That doesn't explain Firefox though, since it's not being run with elevated priveleges | 15:57 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> $ lxqt-sudo featherpad … (0x7ffc8c07de00) Warning: Icon theme "breeze" not found. | 15:58 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> not sure why this ^ happens | 15:59 |
| wxl[m] | One is in your favorites or pinned and one is the actual window or Taskbar | 15:59 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> One is in your favorites or pinned and one is the actual window or Task …], yes, but in my case both are equal | 15:59 |
| wxl[m] | I have a suspicion breeze is upstream default but it needs investigation | 16:00 |
| wxl[m] | That makes no sense @HMollerCl | 16:00 |
| wxl[m] | Then it should happen with pcmanfm-qt too | 16:00 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> what makes no sense? | 16:01 |
| wxl[m] | @tsimonq2 some things on that last little things task are questions you're probably best at answering | 16:01 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> I mean yeah one is pinned one is not, but shouldn't the system icon theme apply for both? | 16:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 some things on that last little things task are questions you …], Oh, link? | 16:01 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @EgenhoferJ [I mean yeah one is pinned one is not, but shouldn't the system icon theme apply …], yes, that happens in my 19.04 | 16:01 |
| wxl[m] | Oh now I get what you mean sorry | 16:02 |
| wxl[m] | Yeah i don't know.. | 16:02 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> https://imgur.com/a/omCbILR | 16:02 |
| wxl[m] | @tsimonq2 scroll back dude [Unbreak Now!, Open] last little things before release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 | 16:02 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] last little things before release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67 | 16:02 | |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> https://imgur.com/a/RAqjBJz | 16:03 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> I have a suspicion breeze is upstream default but it needs investigatio …], and when you change icons to e-papirus, instead of breeze i wants to use elementyry | 16:03 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Yay DSL | 16:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 scroll back dude [Unbreak Now!, Open] last little things befo …], Fine XD | 16:03 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @EgenhoferJ [https://imgur.com/a/RAqjBJz], I believe you will have to do an apt full-upgrade after discover. | 16:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ack wxl | 16:04 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> not sure if discover does full-upgrade or only dist-upgrade | 16:04 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Yep, probably. I've never bothered with updates on this VM so it's in need of a few before I do anything xDDD | 16:04 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> Well not never but it's been like 2 weeks. | 16:04 |
| wxl[m] | Discover does full upgrade afaik. Right @acheronuk? | 16:09 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> So discover is set to allow pre release. | 16:16 |
| lubot | <EgenhoferJ> But dist upgrade and fullupgrade are telling me there is nothing available yet | 16:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Discover does full upgrade afaik. Right @acheronuk?], I'm sure muon does full-upgrade, not sure with discover | 16:23 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @EgenhoferJ [But dist upgrade and fullupgrade are telling me there is nothing available yet], good | 16:23 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALde607062dd79: Add pcmanfm-qt and mobile devices] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALde607062dd79 | 19:22 | |
| guiverc | wxl, last night: `do-release-upgrade -d` success (18.10 -> 19.04) [on hardware] which I took as your TUI item; gui? I didn't find. acheronuk suggested "pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE & … or … pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 &" but felt too complex for end-users to me.. | 21:33 |
| wxl | guiverc: he's right since there's no "normal" way to do it right now. that's essentially what's happening in the background, though | 21:34 |
| guiverc | do you want me to do one? (I'd have picked DistUpgradeViewKDE - but got a preference) | 21:35 |
| wxl | yes please | 21:35 |
| wxl | if it fails, do gtk3 and see if it fails similarly | 21:36 |
| guiverc | added a '-d' to `pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE` only thing noticed so far is "Upgrading 18.10 to version 18.10" http://i.imgur.com/FxEUkKC.png | 21:58 |
| Logan | hey all - a question was raised in LP 1811489 about whether indicator-application-gtk2 needs to stay around for Lubuntu compatibility reasons. I don't see any reverse dependencies/recommendations for it, but can someone please confirm whether or not it's needed? | 22:05 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1811489 in indicator-application-gtk2 (Ubuntu) "Please remove indicator-application-gtk2 from Ubuntu" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811489 | 22:05 |
| guiverc | wxl, `pkexec do-release-upgrade -d -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE` succeeded, only thing was 18.10 to 18.10 message covered earlier; rebooted to 19.04 & looks good | 23:21 |
| wxl | guiverc: that message may be par for the course since it's not released. glad it all worked. THANK YOU! | 23:21 |
| guiverc | also forgot to say - that was in vbox vm | 23:21 |
| guiverc | yeah I assumed it was b/c of -d option forcing it | 23:22 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker you get those full disc encryption/efi/secure boot installs done? | 23:28 |
| kc2bez | wxl: I would test it but I don't have anything with secure boot. | 23:35 |
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