kenvandinerobert_ancell: hey can you please review https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/restrictions-on-screenshots-and-videos-in-snap-listings/3087/26?u=kenvandine03:27
kenvandineAnd comment03:27
robert_ancellkenvandine, ok03:27
* duflu waves to kenvandine and robert_ancell03:28
kenvandineHey duflu03:29
didrocksgood morning06:33
dufluMorning didrocks06:34
didrockshey duflu06:37
dufluIt's slightly suspicious that the memory overhead of an Ubuntu session (with 3 extensions) is 48MB higher than vanilla gnome-shell06:55
dufluOr maybe higher. That's without a working ubuntu-dock06:56
jibelhi all07:00
dufluHi jibel07:00
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didrockssalut jibel07:15
seb128duflu, why do you find that weird? it's not that much overhead is it?08:01
seb128(good morning desktopers)08:02
didrockshey seb12808:02
seb128lut didrocks, ça va mieux ?08:02
didrocksseb128: je commence vraiment à m'en sortir, oui, merci :) et toi/Hélène ?08:02
seb128Hélène a un rhume/nez bouché etc, j'imagine que je suis le suivant :p (j'ai le nez un peu chargé mais pas encore tourné en rhume, je vais essaye de me reposer et faire des tisanes, citron, etc)08:03
didrocksargh, ouais, c'est parti pour une petite cure :)08:04
dufluMorning seb128. Yeah 48MB is a lot of memory. It's even a big relative increase (+27%)08:04
seb128duflu, k, well a GNOME session take over 1G on my machine, so to me it's a 4.8% or less increase...08:05
dufluseb128, I mean RSS, not VSIZE :)08:05
dufluShould have clarified that08:05
seb128duflu, well, thunderbird takes over 200M, e-d-s takes like 100M, gnome-software 80M08:07
dufluLast I checked, all that vsize wasn't real memory. It was virtual address space reserved by PulseAudio(!) and graphics stuff. That would be worth revisiting08:07
seb128those 48M are not tiny but small compared to other things we have imho08:07
seb128is the desktop icons extension the main offender?08:08
seb128(I would expect so since that's what does the most objects handling/rendering)08:08
dufluseb128, it's certainly got some big leaks I am looking at08:09
dufluMorning Laney08:09
didrockshey Laney08:09
seb128hey Laney, how are you? had a nice London pub&diner evening yesterday?08:09
seb128how is disco looking from the office? ;)08:09
didrocksno a11y on gdm after installing with a11y enabled, I guess this is known?08:09
didrocks(I guess not new)08:10
seb128duflu, those leaks are more problematic than the default overhead the extensiosn had imhp08:10
dufluseb128, yeah which is why it has taken most of the week for me08:10
seb128didrocks, that's an issue since we switched to GNOME in 17.10 yes08:10
dufluAnd I just remembered the week ends tomorrow08:10
Laneyhi duflu didrocks seb12808:10
seb128didrocks, afaik at least08:10
didrocksyeah, I was wondering if you know the bug # for it08:10
didrocksI wouldn't be surprised it's since 17.1008:11
Laneyseb128: looks OK, which means something bad is going to be discovered today :>08:11
* duflu offers Laney a blindfold08:11
didrockswell, already a respin today, so redoing the tests :p08:11
Laneynot sure about the dinner, it was a plate of mushrooms with cheese melted on08:11
seb128didrocks, bug #1796275 is one for example08:11
ubot5`bug 1796275 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "Screen reader is not auto-enabled on first login if enabled when installing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179627508:11
seb128Laney, where was that?08:11
Laneyit was called TAP I think08:12
Laneywe tried to go to this place willcooke had some vouchers for but it was full, that was next door08:12
seb128I don't think I tried that one08:12
seb128ah ok08:12
Laneyhonest burgers08:12
didrocksseb128: yeah, which isn't exactly the remaining bug, as the session itself is good, just not gdm. Let me annotate the description08:12
seb128didrocks, or maybe it's worth a new report08:13
didrocksok, let me open a new one08:13
seb128ah, honest burgers, I know that one :)08:13
seb128didrocks, thx08:13
didrocksat worst another dup :p08:13
seb128Laney, there is a new one just next to the london bridge station right?08:13
Laneyseb128: we tried to go near southwark station, that was the closest but I think they have a few yeah08:14
didrocksseb128: bug #1825112 if you want to triage08:17
ubot5`bug 1825112 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen reader isn't actived on gdm if installed with a11y enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182511208:17
seb128didrocks, thx08:17
didrockshum, the g-i-s spinner doesn't spin08:21
didrocksso, we are back to "application looks like it's stuck"08:22
seb128willcooke had that issue the other day I think08:22
seb128it worked for me/others08:22
seb128so it's a big/some cases, not all the time08:22
seb128(unless the upload from yesterday regressed, I didn't test it yet)08:22
didrocksI did several installs, would be good to confirm if the resize change didn't impact it08:22
didrockslet me open a bug just in case, not attaching it08:22
Laneywould be good for someone to look into that, it was happening before the upload even08:23
Laneybut not in any of the tests I did for it08:23
Laneyso a bit random, which I don't understand08:23
didrocksyeah, would be good to know if it's a 100% hit now08:24
seb128or a race and your machine/VM happens to have the speed to hit it08:24
seb128do you have any warning in the journal?08:24
didrocksI have another install in progress, will look afterward08:25
willcookemorning desktoppers.  Happy Disco-108:30
didrockshey willcooke08:30
willcookehi didrocks, how goes?08:30
didrocksfeeling better than previous days, yourself?08:30
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1825116 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "spinner waiting for snapd content is frozen" [Undecided,New]08:38
seb128willcooke, ^ that looks similar to the one you had the other day I think? did you show it to andy?08:39
didrockslike if some blocking call was done in the UI thread?08:40
didrockslet's wait for someone else to confirm or not08:40
willcookeseb128, didrocks - Yeah I saw it, andyrock and Laney were looking at that yesterday I think08:47
didrocksseb128: hum, on your "code copying the settigns is in casper", but this is only for the live session, not the install one where it's ubiquity doing it, no?08:49
seb128didrocks, I would have referenced to the code bug see #ubuntu-devel :p08:50
didrocksahah :)08:51
didrocksah, I guess I understand what you mean08:51
didrocksthe casper script does the change on the live08:52
didrocksfor gdm and user session08:52
didrocksand as it's what we copy on disk with ubiquity08:52
didrocksthe install machine has the same setting activated08:52
didrocksok, I was hesitating as it's mostly gsettings if we had more hooks in ubiquity when hesitating between ubiquity vs casper to file it08:55
seb128didrocks, well, it's ubiquity-hook/30accessibility09:01
seb128copy_orca_config() does09:01
seb128cp -r /home/$USERNAME/.local/share/orca /target/home/$TARGET_USERNAME/.local/share09:01
seb128cp -r /home/$USERNAME/.local/share/orca /target/var/lib/lightdm/.local/share09:01
seb128maybe just adding a line with /target/var/lib/gdm(3?) would be enough09:02
didrocksseb128: yeah, could be09:02
didrocksdon't know if there are more gsettings fun needed09:03
seb128didrocks, there is probably some to do in casper-a11y-enable as well, it does e.g09:05
seb128$DO_CHROOT dconf compile /tmp/lightdm.dconf /tmp/casper-a11y-dconf-lightdm.d09:05
seb128mv $CHROOT_DIR/tmp/lightdm.dconf $CHRO09:05
seb128anyway, I play with that09:05
seb128but it's too late now to change casper, so it's for next cycle09:05
seb128oh, line cut09:05
seb128mv $CHROOT_DIR/tmp/lightdm.dconf $CHROOT_DIR/var/lib/lightdm/.config/dconf/user09:05
seb128so there is a dconf db for lightdm09:06
seb128basically we need to do the same for gdm I think09:06
seb128I might still poke at it today while it's fresh09:06
seb128and we land that directly after disco09:06
didrocksyeah, I guess too late for disco anyway and not new. But good if you have time to have a look so that we land it shortly after disco09:07
didrocksbut yeah dconf db is needed I guess09:08
Laneyspinner> We didn't actually see it in any of our tests, would be ideal if someone who does could investigate IMHO09:12
LaneyI've got a screencast of it working in a test install I just did if that's helpful09:12
seb128Laney, do you or Andy have any hint of what could be one of the cause code wise/where to poke for someone able to trigger it?09:14
willcookeI'll reinstall my test machine in a mo09:15
willcooke(10 mins out)09:15
willcookeit might be a one off09:15
Laneynot so much, something something icon theme / librsvg / gdk-pixbuf / try another application like gtk3-widget-factory / check with a different theme09:15
LaneyI uploaded that to Google Drive using gvfs from nautilus09:22
Laneywhat a world09:22
* willcooke packs up to get off the train. bbib09:23
pieqtjaalton, hi!09:24
pieqtjaalton, jibel told me to get in touch with you regarding an issue with Precision device and the latest 19.04 image09:24
pieqtjaalton, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2bXr2r6k4P/09:25
tjaaltonpieq: you filed a bug about it earlier, nouveau got disabled and then later re-enabled, so the bug is also reopened09:32
tjaaltonuse nomodeset09:32
pieqtjaalton, ok, so for this device we'll use the "safe graphics" option09:32
tjaaltonor, nouveau.modeset=009:33
tjaaltonsince it's a hybrid09:34
tjaaltonwould still use i91509:34
willcookejibel, have you tested/are you able to test nvidia drivers on a secureboot system?10:00
jibelpieq, ^10:00
pieqwillcooke, so... install image, activate proprietary drivers and make sure they install properly?10:05
willcookepieq, yeah, on a machine using secure boot10:05
willcookepieq, and, if you happen to have a machine that uses broadcom wifi, that too, again on secure boot10:06
pieqwillcooke, I will check nvidia, but for broadcom wifi I don't have any handy now and I have to eod soon :S10:11
willcookepieq, ack, thx10:11
pieqwillcooke, should I install the 3rd party drivers (nvidia) at install time, or install without, then add them in the Software Update tool?10:12
willcookepieq, yeah check the 3rd party box in the installer10:13
pieqwillcooke, ok10:14
willcookeinfinity, sil2100 - FYI ^ pieq is testing nvidia on a secure boot system now ^10:20
pieqwillcooke, installation going on. One thing I noticed is that when you check "install 3rd party drivers" and click "Continue", it takes *forever* before going to the actual install screen (with the slides)10:23
pieqwillcooke, I was worried, but then I checked in /var/log/syslog and noticed the system was DLing nvidia-* packages and doing additional stuff10:24
willcookepieq, known issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/182490510:24
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1824905 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Provide user feedback when running ubuntu-drivers [was:Long pause when selecting 3rd party drivers during install]" [Medium,Triaged]10:24
pieqwillcooke, so it might be useful to add some kind of visual feedback for average users10:24
pieqwillcooke, haha ok :D10:24
willcookeglad we're finding the same things :)10:24
pieqwillcooke, should I add the syslog of my install to that issue?10:26
pieqcause it's like... 4-5 minutes gap10:26
willcookepieq, sure, thanks10:27
pieqwillcooke, looks all good!10:40
pieqwillcooke, I ever threw in a little full disk encryption10:41
willcookepieq, merci!10:41
pieqand everything works and the nvidia prime profile is selected10:41
pieqwillcooke, de rien !10:41
willcookesee you next week pieq10:41
pieqthe MOK key enrolling process on a Dell BIOS is very... interesting. It couldn't be less appealing.10:41
willcookeThe big blue box of doom?10:41
pieqI don't know how it looks on other devices10:41
pieqwillcooke, the bbbd indeed :D10:42
pieqon a UHD screen it looks every scarier10:42
Laneywe got a machine with the broken spinner now10:53
Laneyandyrock is looking at it10:53
clobranohello everyone 0/11:03
Laneyyeah it's to do with VMs disabling animations11:03
Laneyi.e. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-perl-list//2014-December/msg00009.html11:03
clobranodidrocks:  thanks for the note on my wiki page! it's awesome11:03
willcookeLaney, just FYI in case I'm not around when you get back... elmo's bug... if he blows away his config things work.  So not a release blocker for sure.  He's going to bisect his config and see if he can work out which bit it is.12:40
Laneycould be an extension if any were in use, they are often to blame12:52
seb128willcooke, speaking of elmo, could you remind him he was supposed to give us details on a libimobiledevice fix he backported locally to get his iphone correctly working (so we can consider doing a proper SRU for the fix if needed). Also maybe you have access to some extra iOS devices at the office, would be good to just check how are things on Disco with those (access to photo, apps, etc)13:08
willcookeseb128, good call - will do that now13:17
willcooke(once I'm out this meeting)13:17
didrocksclobrano: yw ;)13:21
willcookeseb128, good news.  He plugged his phone in and it worked13:30
willcookeon D13:31
seb128willcooke, good :)13:42
seb128willcooke, still worth asking if he remembers the change he backported at the time in case it's something he needs for bionic, if he doesn't then no worry, I just delete that from my list of things to keep checking every now and then until they are resolved13:43
willcookeseb128, will do13:54
sil2100Trevinho[3v1n0]: hey! You might not know the answer to my question but Lan_ey told me to try poking you anyway (since foss_freedom seems to be not around):15:41
sil2100Trevinho[3v1n0]: I'm reviewing budgie-desktop's SRU for bionic that fixes the breakage with the new bionic-proposed mutter - there's a animations.patch there for dealing with that15:41
sil2100Trevinho[3v1n0]: what I'm wondering about is if this change requires the new mutter or will that work for both new and old mutter? Since they didn't bump the mutter dependency, wanted to know if that's good or not15:42
sil2100Trevinho[3v1n0]: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/419571229/budgie-desktop_10.4+git20171031.10.g9f71bb8-1.2ubuntu1.1_10.4+git20171031.10.g9f71bb8-1.2ubuntu1.2.diff.gz <- patch animations.patch I suppose?15:43
sil2100fossfreedom: ^15:43
sil2100Trevinho: ^15:47
Trevinhosil2100: hey15:47
andyrockgood morning!15:47
Trevinhosil2100: it will work in both, it's just queuing a redraw, which... while might cause some more operations, won't ever cause a problem per se15:48
sil2100Trevinho: thanks!15:48
sil2100fossfreedom: ^ nvm anymore, ignore my ping here15:48
didrocksawk awk awk, funny for some definition of fun :p16:07
didrocksespecially as scalar arrays are not really supported for assignement16:08
didrocksyeah, for zfs grub menu generation16:19
didrocksmultiple datasets on multiple pools, for multiple machine-id which can have multiple snapshot/filesystem16:20
didrocksyou can see where arrays of arrays start :)16:20
didrocksand as we want to upstream those (it can work without zsys), to upstream zfs/grub, better to use shell+awk than something like python/go16:21
didrocksbut sometimes, it's a little bit of a PITA with such complex datastructures16:21
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bcurtiswxanyone else have this issue: clicking an icon in the favorites bar (mines on left side)  (i'm using chrome for example) repeatedly with the window open (full screen)causes the bar to expand and push the window to the right17:20
bcurtiswxwell, can't reproduce, so nvm for now17:29
sarnoldbcurtiswx: you didn't miss anything while you were gone17:30
bcurtiswxsarnold: ty17:30

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