[00:28] @tsimonq2: why don't we include *with* encryption without internet as one of our things? [00:36] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: why don't we include *with* encryption without internet as one …], I dunno, add it [00:36] I wrote it from what I could think of off the top of my head. [00:41] I'll be up late tonight (I wouldn't be surprised if it turns into all night) [00:42] ok for those of you that don't have secure boot, there's two new ones: full disk/no encryption/BIOS/internet and full disk/no encryption/EFI/no secure boot/internet [00:42] I just got home, but once I get settled, I'll go through the release announcements with a fine-toothed comb and add a bunch of images/GIFs [00:42] i've put out some calls for help on the secure boot ones [00:43] I have a spare machine with secure boot [00:43] @tsimonq2: is this not an issue anymore? the question about whether or not there were missing drivers? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1824910 [00:43] Ubuntu bug 1824910 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-drivers fail to install Nvidia divers without Internet connection in Lubuntu Disco Dingo" [Undecided, New] [00:44] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: is this not an issue anymore? the question about whether or not …], ...what's your question? [00:45] @tsimonq2: the inspiration to that was, i think, therry and their problematic install due to missing drivers. i later saw some suggestion that the new daily solved their issues.. can you confirm or deny? [00:46] I still don't know what you mean. We don't have ubuntu-drivers in Calamares by default. [00:46] sigh [00:47] i think this bug is confused [00:47] I have a secure boot laptop with NVIDIA graphics I'm digging out to test [00:47] ok great well let me know how the nvidia goes because that's the question [00:47] Ok [00:47] this bug report reads like "i couldn't install drivers that are remotely available because i had no internet" and that's not a bug XD [00:47] I think it should be invalid. Proprietary drivers won't get included on the ISO. [00:48] I submitted the bug [00:48] i think having them in the iso makes a lot of sense [00:48] that said, we also have no way to install the proprietary drivers [00:48] If we can, yes. [00:48] (in the installer) [00:48] get them included that is [00:48] because of that, i think i'll make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1815354 into a bug about THAT [00:48] Ubuntu bug 1815354 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "BCM 43142 driver not installed - no WiFi" [Undecided, Confirmed] [00:49] er, i guess that one's the same problem, huh. i'll make a new bug. [00:49] wxl, "Full disk install without encryption on a BIOS system with internet" was done via "Full disk install without encryption on a BIOS system" (it didn't mention internet, so I didn't remove it..) [00:49] Right, if you have broadcom and nvidia no dice for sure [00:49] maybe select drivers should be included? certainly anything networking [00:50] guiverc: oh duh i'll specify that [00:50] so what does ubuntu do? what do they have on the iso? someone want to look into that? [00:50] ditto "Full disk install without encryption on a EFI system without secure boot with internet" [00:51] They don't have it on the iso either. [00:51] One big, big, BIG question: are there any legitimate release blockers, from people who have been poking and playing with the ISO? [00:51] Rik mentioned there was chatter on another IRC channel. === ErichEickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer === bluesabre_ is now known as bluesabre === bashfulrobot_ is now known as bashfulrobot [01:03] this should amke things more clear https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ [01:05] guiverc: Are you doing the FDE on a bios system? I can do that if you want. [01:05] Hi [01:06] css as for stylesheet? [01:06] headed out talk later [01:06] @HMollerCl [css as for stylesheet?], Yeah [01:07] kc2bez, booting the system currently; but if you want to do it.. I can switch to efi+no.internet+encrypt [01:07] I know some things from css [01:07] what is needed? [01:08] guiverc: That would be good, my laptop is old enough that it doesn't have EFI for an option. [01:12] :) [01:28] Do we have the hashes for 19.04 finally yet? [01:32] We might or we might not lynorian 😂 [01:45] Luks on BIOS with no Internet passed. I will update the task. [01:50] Er. Checklist rather. [04:05] is the only way to update from 18.10 to 19.04 do-release-upgrade on the command line [04:38] DarinMiller was added by: DarinMiller [04:38] hey there! [04:38] That worked. [04:39] Lubuntu does not like restarting on my laptop. Same hang as mentioned after install. [04:41] weird [04:41] @DarinMiller [Lubuntu does not like restarting on my laptop. Same hang as mentioned after ins …], Does the Beta work? [04:41] What about 18.10? 18.04? [04:41] :) [04:43] No idea, this is the 1st time ever installing Lubuntu. WXL wanted someone to test using EFI with/out encryption and internet. [04:45] https://askubuntu.com/questions/50451/error-fixing-recursive-fault-but-reboot-is-needed [04:47] that a few days old.... [04:47] I suspect an NVidia driver install may fix the issue as this labtop is quite stubborn without it. [04:48] i agree with that notion [04:48] OK. success with and without encryption using internet. Rinse, repeat without internet? [04:49] yes please [04:53] As expected, the lack of internet failed to detect my location. It also defaulted to a different HD on the PC... non-encrypt install in progress. [04:54] sounds good [04:55] @DarinMiller does ubiquity offer any sort of warning or complaint about the fact that it can't install proprietary/third party drivers if there's no internet? [04:56] Yes, it had a warning "blah, blah, blah ... No internet.... blah, blah...." I will read it more carefully on next install. [04:57] that will suffice, actually [04:58] non-encrypt EFI w/o internet successfully booted.... [04:58] home stretch... [05:00] This computer does not satisfy some rec. reqs. for install.... install can continue, but some features disabled. The sytem is not connected to the internet. [05:01] oh you mean with lubuntu? [05:02] That's what the install says when not connected to the internet. [05:02] but i mean with lubuntu or some other flavor? [05:02] Lubuntu [05:02] yeah i meant with other flavors [05:04] OH, duh you said Ubiquity, not Calamares. If i remember correctly, Ubuiquity skips the "updates during install" option if internet is not available. [05:05] but it doesn't offer a warning? [05:05] Truth be told, I have not tried a non-internet install in while. [05:05] I will check shortly.... [05:05] thanks [05:06] OK, encrypted without internet successly booted... now switching to Kubuntu 19.04 to test no internet... [05:09] Lubuntu boot faster from USB than Kubuntu... [05:11] :) [05:12] thanks for the testing! want a thank you in the release notes? :) [05:12] I also have to delete maybe-ubuity from the boot line to live boot this laptop under kubuntu... Calameres handles it without issue. Actually, its the maybe menu that was slow, removing that option, boot time was similar. [05:12] i'm so glad not to have to deal with ubiquity anymore. what did maybe-ubiquity do? [05:13] No need for release note mention for my sake... [05:13] ok :) [05:14] It's the intermediate menu that gives option to go straight to install or live boot. This laptop hates that option with specifying nomodeset or specifying the intel modeset... [05:15] So If i skip internet, a radio button says "I don't want to connect to wifi network right now".... not really a warning as much as a default acknowledgement. [05:15] ah [05:16] hm curious [05:16] ok thanks again for the help [05:16] I can still check the install 3rd party sw install and wifi hw, so that must be included in the ISO. I assumed that was downloaded as I always choose the internet option. [05:17] oh interesting [05:18] "Download updates while installing' is grayed out (but "checked"), but no actual "warning". [05:18] should that checkbox be grayed out? [05:18] huh bizaarre [05:19] When connected to the internet, it's active. [05:19] Anything else before I head to bed? [05:19] nope that will do thanks! [05:20] Alright, glad to help. TTYL [05:20] sleep tight! [05:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2b290c1b3541: Generlize no more 32 bit upgrades] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4a658d6d64ea [05:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4a658d6d64ea: No that section was going backwards use old section] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4a658d6d64ea [05:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL299c4832c18a: Update chaging new release versions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL299c4832c18a [06:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68 [06:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG2608d9269cb8: added 1825286 to disco known bugs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG2608d9269cb8 [06:18] @The_LoudSpeaker in case you were still interested, no need to worry about those efi+secure boot tests [12:13] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Disco Final] has been marked as ready [12:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#988 [13:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T35: Ubuntu SSO for Phab] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35#990 [13:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T35: Ubuntu SSO for Phab] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35#992 [13:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T17: Write a Welcome Center] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17#994 [13:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED5459d6839080: platform.disco -> platform.eoan] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED5459d6839080 [15:08] ^ [15:08] Eoan is the name [15:09] Eoan Emu? [15:09] Eoan Eland XD [15:09] We don't know the animal [15:09] EAGLE XD [15:09] proof or it's a lie [15:09] Egret! [15:10] oh that reminds me [15:10] Simon: I have to apply some Zimbra upgrades this weekend, there'll be an hour where you'll be without mail. [15:10] @teward [ proof or it's a lie], See Launchpad [15:10] @teward [ Simon: I have to apply some Zimbra upgrades this weekend, there'll be a …], Mmkay [15:10] Would you be able to do it on Sunday? [15:10] then you're going to get the flood of SPAM! *laughs evilly* [15:10] why Sunday? [15:10] EAGLE [15:11] @teward [ why Sunday?], Because I have to work all day [15:11] @UniversalSuperBox [], HAHAHA [15:11] EANGRY EAGLE [15:11] Oh, it's definitely Eoan. [15:17] @tsimonq2 [Would you be able to do it on Sunday?], c'on let teward search easter eggs. [15:17] @HMollerCl [c'on let teward search easter eggs.], XD [15:17] In an hour or so I'll enable CI builds for Eoan and axe builds for Cosmic [15:18] After I publish the announcement ;) [15:19] @tsimonq2 it'll be something like late Saturday evening lol [15:19] so no worries there. [15:19] in the interim... [15:19] *accidentally sprinkles crap into all the repos on PHAB* [15:19] People still use Zimbra? [15:19] I had it in my mind they went out of business. [15:19] you're behind the times they still exist xD [15:20] Zimbra is owned by Synacore [15:20] but the product is still Zimbra. [15:20] I still use exchange primarily, with Kolab close behind. [15:20] Synacor* [15:20] yeah well I needed an easier-to-maintain hosted mail system that I can offer to those who would rather ME host their mail for them as SaaS than run it themselves or trust Google xD [15:20] :P [15:20] Makes sense! [15:21] I've been really liking KolabNow for my non-corporate needs. [15:21] It's a lil pricy though :( [15:21] But after the MSoft data breach that left a number of my emails exposed, I had to switch [15:22] Eeuuu!! Euon!!?? What happened to Eagle? [15:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan [15:40] @EgenhoferJ Yeah, but I needed something heavy in Open Source world because that way it's not costly :P [15:40] Makes perfect sense! [15:59] Release day on my birthday is new [15:59] heh [15:59] coincidences are interesting aren't they wxl [15:59] Happy birthday wxl [15:59] GOD I love that I have a local copy of the ISO mirrors xD [16:01] I don't even like disco [16:02] Happy birthday wxl!! Treat us now. [16:04] Is that how it works? Give me my presents! [16:04] *gives wxl a half-bottle of water* [16:04] there's your present :P [16:06] happy b-day wxl! [16:09] *sets up a bot to send wxl birthday wishes every 2 mins* [16:09] This is your present wxl. [16:09] * wxl[m] drinks teward's back wash [16:09] lol [16:12] * kc2bez slides wxl an adult beverage. [16:12] One more for you: [16:13] *sets up a bot which helps wxl to reply to correct chats* [16:13] * teward slides wxl the Souls of the Damned. (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/898/913/451.jpg) [16:17] https://lubuntu.me/disco-released [16:19] Lenny can't find that right now ;) [16:20] Lenny is so cute♥️ [16:39] oooo, Lenny!!! does we have Lenny for disco? [16:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG59190ed7c6b7: August -> July.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG59190ed7c6b7 [16:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGa47d9160742c: Add the YAML.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGa47d9160742c [16:50] Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! … https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/ [16:50] Wait your birtday is today wxl? [16:50] Mine too! Happy birthday! [16:51] No way! Happy birthday! [16:51] Yeah!! rocking the ole 25 today [16:52] Oh yeah we don't have A Dingo Lenny! [16:52] I'm the answer to life the universe and everything [16:56] We need a Lenny that's a dog doing a disco pose [16:57] * kc2bez is not it [16:57] "Lenny that's a dog" [16:57] wait. [16:57] @EgenhoferJ [Mine too! Happy birthday!], Happy Natal Day to both of you! [16:57] "We need a penguin that's a dog" [16:57] I have 0 artistic ability [16:57] Upgraded to Eoan :D [16:58] Big difference? XD [16:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA8a07c03602ba: Remove Cosmic, add Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA8a07c03602ba [16:59] @kc2bez [ I have 0 artistic ability], same here, If I would have to do it I would do a dog house and say that the dogt is inside dancing disco. [17:01] Cosmic nuked from the CI. [17:01] Eoan bootstrapping. [17:02] @HMollerCl [same here, If I would have to do it I would do a dog house and say that the dog …], Made me think of Snoopy dancing in the Peanuts Christmas special. [17:05] @tsimonq2 [ Eoan bootstrapping.], I think I have to be jealous. … Can’t currently access my computers so I can’t join in the fun. [17:05] haha :) [17:06] :P [17:06] Here is not updated to disco https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ [17:15] @HMollerCl [Here is not updated to disco https://lubuntu.me/downloads/], Uff, I can't right now :( [17:15] wxl: ^ [17:20] this is the one? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/disco/release/ ? because the modified date is not from today. [17:22] Yes [17:23] what about torrents, do we have? [17:23] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/disco/release/lubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [17:43] I'll start seeding 👍 [17:44] AYY [17:44] :D [17:44] @tsimonq2 [Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! … https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/], But in download section on lubuntu.me I see only disco beta builds. [17:44] @The_LoudSpeaker [But in download section on lubuntu.me I see only disco beta builds.], I'm aware [17:47] When will be the stable iso released? [17:47] @The_LoudSpeaker [When will be the stable iso released?], It already has been [17:47] When does it come on the download section? [17:48] When someone edits it [17:48] *facepalms* [17:48] Patience grasshopper. [17:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#995 [17:49] Do i look like a grasshopper to you @kc2bez ? [17:49] No, sorry, it is a quote. [17:50] Ohh! Lite then. [17:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#996 [18:01] //word// doesn't work for italics -- can someone change the //'s to *'s or _'s? [18:01] this should have been done. did we at least get social media done???? [18:02] simon == slacking so probably not :P [18:02] he did say he was "going to be up all night" though i din't hear heads or tail from him [18:02] @wxl [ this should have been done. did we at least get social media done????], Twitter/Mastodon, Reddit done [18:05] Telegram too. [18:07] @tsimonq2: Blog posts, slashes don't work in there. [18:07] go fix it :P [18:09] UGH I HATE THIS BLOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG [18:09] i'm about ready to throw this [18:09] you owe me BIG time, @tsimonq2 [18:09] @wxl [ UGH I HATE THIS BLOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG], LET'S FINALLY SWITCH IT TO NIKOLA ALREADY [18:09] USE GHOOOOOST [18:10] ***BURN IT ALL DOWN AND USE DJANGO!*** [18:10] no [18:10] oh god please no [18:10] ... that wasn't a suggestion. [18:10] *lights the site on fire* [18:10] * UniversalSuperBox lights teward on fire [18:10] * teward is already on fire [18:11] lol [18:11] * kc2bez throws teward into the ice cold lake so he is not on fire anymore [18:12] * teward boils away the lake because pouring water on the fire just makes it burn hotter [18:12] IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING [18:12] WE DIDN'T START THE FIIREEE [18:14] NO WE DIDN'T LIGHT IT BUT WE TRIED TO FIGHT IT [18:15] oh well that's as good as it gets [18:16] shouldn't i remove 14.04 since it's april? [18:17] formatting is messed up at the top [18:17] not sure why [18:18] i blame SImon :P [18:18] I also blame Simon [18:18] so does wxl :P [18:19] to be fair, i blame raphael who added all these darn add ons :/ [18:19] but ultimately it's simon's fault, so yeah, simon [18:19] @tsimonq2: remove 14.04 because unsupported, right???? [18:20] yes [18:20] i haven't seen a 14.04 EOL announcement yet :P *shot* [18:20] don't talk to Simon [18:20] yes [18:20] do it [18:20] @wxl [