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[01:32] <snadge> my body is ready ;)
[01:58] <snadge> is someone going to post confetti and balloons in here when the cdimages are up?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> !party | snadge 
[02:01] <ubottu> snadge: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !disco release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/
[02:59] <ZeZu> what is the correct place to voice 'annoyances' for cosmic?
[02:59] <ZeZu> it's been a while
[03:01] <Eickmeyer> ZeZu: While Cosmic is a currently suported release, you're more than welcome to ask for support in the main #ubuntu channel. If it's a bug...
[03:01] <Eickmeyer> !bug | ZeZu
[03:01] <ubottu> ZeZu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[03:02] <ZeZu> sorry disco
[03:02] <ZeZu> the codenames get confusing after you've gone through 10 or so
[03:02] <Eickmeyer> Well, this is for support, not for voicing annoyances. If you feel something needs to be fixed, a bug report is the way.
[03:02] <ZeZu> that's my meaning,  not everything is a bug
[03:03] <Eickmeyer> We also accept yy.mm in lieu of codenames (19.04, for example).
[03:03] <ZeZu> but some things are quite annoying
[03:03] <Eickmeyer> Well, not everyone is a developer, so it's likely to fall on deaf ears here.
[03:03] <ZeZu> true, but people may have some idea where to voice an opinion
[03:03] <ZeZu> i'm a developer myself, but that doesn't mean much these days for linux 
[03:04] <ZeZu> not in the grand scheme of things
[03:04] <Eickmeyer> I'm a developer for Ubuntu Studio, so I can only address things there, and even that is narrow in scope.
[03:05] <Eickmeyer> ZeZu: Would you mind joining me in #ubuntu-discuss?
[03:05] <ZeZu> some of just minor things really,  like the new window system resizing windows from center of window/widget is terribly annoying
[03:05] <ZeZu> sure
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[06:34] <erle-> Is the release schedule on time?
[06:34] <erle-> Or are there any major stopper bugs?
[06:53] <valorie> erle-: look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/402/builds/190334/testcases for bug reports
[06:53] <valorie> hover to see the description
[06:54] <valorie> errr, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/403/builds
[06:56] <valorie> none of them look like blockers to me
[07:55] <esro> hey, what hour 19.04 releases ?
[07:57] <valorie> when it's done
[08:00] <acheronuk> hard to predict, but probably not before midday UTC. historically the release announcement have gone about at times that vary from early to late afternoon, to evening or late evening. depends how it goes
[08:11] <esro> ok ok, good to know
[08:27] <solsTiCe> hi. Can I do a do-release-upgrade while using apt-offline ?
[08:34] <ducasse> solsTiCe: probably not, it does more than just upgrade packages
[09:14] <solsTiCe> would be easier to do that with Live USB anyway ?
[09:14] <solsTiCe> ducasse: ^
[09:17] <ducasse> solsTiCe: afaik you can't upgrade from a usb, you need to reinstall
[09:21] <jStefan> you used to be able to use DVDs are source, it would be like a local cache for some of the packages, but having the online app was still recommended, as not ALL the packages have to be on the DVD. and I believe that was with the "alternate" install isos.
[09:21] <jStefan> as source*
[09:22] <jStefan> online apt*
[09:30] <solsTiCe> oh my
[09:31] <jStefan> i think the alternate server install can still be used as an apt repo
[09:31] <luna> Ubuntu 19.04 Release party at TG LAN in Norway later tonight
[09:32] <solsTiCe> ok
[09:32] <solsTiCe> jStefan: ok
[09:33] <solsTiCe> I am downloading 19.04 with torrent. If I donate now on ubuntu.com, would my donation will be counted as a 18.10 dl  ? 
[09:34] <solsTiCe> oh I can tweak the url and change it to use 19.04 !
[09:35] <jStefan> hmmm, can't you donate on ubuntu.com without triggering a specific download choice?
[09:35] <ducasse> solsTiCe: 19.04 isn't out yet
[09:35] <solsTiCe> I am seeing iso on http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/
[09:36] <solsTiCe> jStefan: I would like but I can't find it so far
[09:36] <ducasse> check the date on the iso, it's a daily
[09:37] <solsTiCe> ducasse: f**. are you sure ? it is as if it was released. that's confusing. it should be marked daily
[09:38] <solsTiCe> the torrent date is 	2019-04-18 05:08
[09:39] <ducasse> torrent, maybe, but not the iso itself
[09:39] <solsTiCe> ducasse: may be there is no change on iso since the 16th that's all
[09:39] <ducasse> it's not out until the release announcement
[09:40] <solsTiCe> ducasse: check 18.10. it's the same
[09:40] <jStefan> they can at any time do a last minute change to the iso, and you would have an old iso
[09:40] <solsTiCe> yeah
[09:41] <jStefan> i suggest you check the checksum of what you have, with what's online after it's been officially announced.
[09:42] <jStefan> and even though you might have gotten ahead and downloaded it, wait for the official announce (and checksums) before actually installing it.
[09:44] <ducasse> if you've downloaded now you can just use zsync to get any changes
[09:46] <solsTiCe> ducasse: ah yes. that makes more sense. some kind of binary diff ?
[09:49] <ducasse> yep
[09:50] <solsTiCe> never use it. would be my first time ;-)
[11:12] <erle-> release is already online: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/19.04/release/
[11:17] <ChunkzZ> erle-, no.
[11:18] <ChunkzZ> no announcement yet so no.
[11:25] <luna> 6 hours left
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> TheSilentLink: apt-cache search java
[13:01] <TheSilentLink> java8 isn't there
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> does that fit your question?
[13:02] <TheSilentLink> yes so all programs that require older versions of java no longer supported
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> TheSilentLink: maybe lets await final release, and see the releasenotes
[13:06] <tomreyn> openjdk 8 is no longer supported generally. it's just supported by ubuntu on older releases.
[13:07] <TheSilentLink> that is a shame the minecraft launcher requires it to install
[13:08] <tomreyn> talk to its developers, they should support the current platform.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> TheSilentLink: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[13:14] <TheSilentLink> That deb requires java8 to be installed and it says the snap is no longer available
[13:16] <tomreyn> yo may be able to find a ppa
[13:17] <tomreyn> there is also a package "nvidia-openjdk-8-jre" in disco's "multiverse" repository, not sure whether this will help, but you could look into it.
[13:17] <tomreyn> u77 is pretty old, though
[13:17] <tomreyn> u212 is current
[13:40] <isomari> stable is released. :-):-)
[13:40] <isomari> oh. someone beat me to it. :-(:-(
[13:41] <Pici> !outyet
[13:41] <ubottu> It's out! Announcement at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-April/000243.html - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/Dingo
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> ty Pici 
[13:41] <Pici> :)
[13:41] <OerHeks> yay ... wait, i am seeding already
[13:56] <luna> http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent 0 day Ubuntu Linux warez
[13:58] <OerHeks> stop this, luna, not welcome here...
[13:58] <luna> OerHeks: sorry was just trying to be funny
[14:00] <isomari> are torrents faster than direct download?
[14:01] <luna> isomari: was pretty fast here but at a LAN party with 1gbit internet
[14:01] <luna> :P
[14:01] <luna> so helping seed a little i think
[14:02] <hggdh> torrents spread the load; they _may_ be faster
[14:02] <lordcirth_> isomari, it varies, but often yes. It also puts less load on the volunteer servers as well
[14:02] <OerHeks> isomari, i believe so, no limit on the server
[14:02] <isomari> ok, torrent it is ...:-)
[14:03] <luna> but can't update from RC1 to Stable before i get home, turned of my PC at home
[14:03] <luna> before i left Sweden for Norway
[14:07] <isomari> I'm using torrent for the server, desktop and kubuntu and only the server is blazing. The other 2 are slow as hell.
[14:12] <OerHeks> torrents will go crazy, long weekend
[14:13] <isomari> speeds are stabilizing now.
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[14:44] <lotuspsychje> see you in a few :p
[14:46] <OerHeks> "Elementary Elephant"
[14:49] <OerHeks> "Enamor Echidna"
[14:56] <OerHeks> Eoan EANIMAL  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan
[14:56] <OerHeks> dax ^^
[14:56] <dax> we don't usually bother updating everything until the EANIMAL bit gets announced too
[14:56] <dax> saves doing it twice, and it's usually only a couple of days
[14:57] <OerHeks> oh oke :-)
[14:57] <koffeinfriedhof> "erected eagle" and "freaky ferret" I think :D
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> Eoan Emu? Eoan Egret? Eoan Eagle? Eoan Elephant?
[15:29] <tsimonq2> EAGLE
[15:29] <tsimonq2> Please :))
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: hehehe
[15:36] <hggdh> eegow?
[15:37] <hggdh> eegow eaglesounds good
[15:40] <tsimonq2> Well, Eoan is official.
[22:43] <evdubs> hi - it was suggested that i ask the following here (i have asked in #ubuntu as well) - i just upgraded to ubuntu 19.04 and i had a postgresql-10 installation. it looks like the upgrade process marked postgresql 10 as no longer supported and removed the database data during the "upgrade" - anyone else happen to experience this?
[22:50] <OerHeks> evdubs, as 19.04 is released, you can ask in the main #ubuntu channel, or better #ubuntu-server
[22:51] <evdubs> OerHeks, will do - thanks