eliteI want to make a wallpaper out of an image here: https://linux.pictures/wallpaper . Can someone help me how to do this? "No such file or directory".00:15
Amishparadisanyone there?00:22
Amishparadiscan anyone hear *see* me?00:23
pragmaticenigma!ask | Amishparadis00:23
ubottuAmishparadis: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:23
Amishparadisare you a bot?00:23
kk4ewtelite did you save the image and the bashscript and read the page?00:24
Amishparadisi am a noob. bye!00:24
snadgeis it possible to update to unicode 11.0 on ubuntu 16.04?00:28
snadgei've tried googling and stuff.. i don't really know what would be involved.. obviously updating ubuntu would fix it.. but maybe there's a quick fix00:29
pragmaticenigmasnadge: The only supported way to get the updated characters is to upgrade the operating system00:30
snadgehow about an unsupported way? ;)00:30
snadgeif its just one or two packages that i could get from a ppa.. or by backporting00:30
snadgeie.. something i could potentially reverse if it all goes wrong00:31
pragmaticenigmasnadge: Unicode characters require an entire subsystem to be upgraded that would make your computer unstable.00:31
snadgeis it just pango? .. or does it touch other parts as well00:31
snadgeahh it looks ike glibc too00:33
snadgethats pretty much game over00:34
pragmaticenigmasnadge: Fonts are integrated deep with in the system. they are more than just a way to display text in different formats. They are, in themselves, programs. The kernel and other applications use these font file programs to display the desired text. They are compiled to work together. upgrading to the next version of unicode requires an expansion of the supported character set.00:37
pragmaticenigmasnadge: That is why you're not seeing a straightforward way to upgrade to Unicode 11... it's because supporting such an endever is requires rebuilding the entire OS. That's why the supported method is to upgarde to the latest version of Ubuntu. Either 18.04 LTS release or 18.10 regular release.00:40
snadgethat is a shame.. i would love to use 18.04 LTS on my work pc, but its unfortunately not on the approved OS list within the company00:42
pragmaticenigmasnadge: After nearly two decades in the IT industry, I've learned one valuable thing. Bells and whistles aren't going to impress the boss if you can't get your work done. I use my work computer for work only. And buy my own computers for experimentation.00:45
snadgeoh absolutely.. i've made my choice and im comitted to it now.. ubuntu 16.04 was on that list, so I went with it00:45
snadgeand its supported until april 202100:46
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Emcyanywhere to get 19.04 right now01:17
Emcysince its officially out in a few hours01:17
Bashing-omEmcy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ I do expect.01:29
snadgei just went there and went into the 19.04 folder and was disappointed .. do we expect the release to be any different to the current live build?01:35
pragmaticenigmasnadge: Discussion about the next version can be found in #ubuntu+101:47
k_sze[work]Does GNOME have a setting so that newly spawned windows and dialogs don't automatically steal focus?02:04
MrPocketzSo I just upgraded to 18.0102:16
MrPocketzWondering how to set the terminal window to transparent.02:16
MrPocketzdon't seem to see any relevant options in the preferences, unless I'm blind.02:17
guivercMrPocketz, do you mean 18.10?  (there is no 2018.January release of Ubuntu) - look in edit.prefs.colors then use.transparent & adjust %02:54
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Emcyanyone know why 19.04 would swap " and @ for me even though i have language set to uk03:26
tarzeauEmcy: in x or wayland or console?03:31
tarzeauuk keyboard or us?03:32
Emcyuk in x03:34
Emcyi assume x is still default in 19.0403:34
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Emcydid i find a cool bug?04:03
Emcyi mean annoying04:03
tarzeauEmcy: does it work when you open a terminal and type: setxkbmap us ?04:04
tarzeauor the same command with uk?04:04
tarzeauno idea, i dislike the uk keyboard and prefer the original us one04:04
tarzeaubeing in switzerland, and being familiar with other languages like french, german, turkish, polish...04:04
tarzeauand i only want US keyboard (apple, preferably), and input system (macOS/iOS) then any other unix, last windows04:05
tarzeauand yes i learnt 10 finger typing, and i reach 300keys/min04:05
ScottbertSo... A fresh install of kubuntu, after the 'booting in blind mode' message, displays a flashing kubuntu logo -- and if you press a key during this time, you get the terminal04:06
tarzeauScottbert: nvidia card?04:07
ScottbertHowever, after updating packages, this is no longer the case -- and if for any reason Plasma won't start, then pressing ctrl+alt+Fwhatever just gets you grub's blind mode message04:07
tarzeaunouveau driver or nvidia?04:07
tarzeauwhat says lspci |grep VGA ?04:07
ScottbertThe reccomended one (nvidia-390 or something)04:07
tarzeautried 418 from nvidia directly?04:07
Scottbert01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)04:08
tarzeaui have no idea why canonical/ubuntu ships that old stuff. ugh and why you use such an old videocard04:08
tarzeautry the nvidia-340 driver04:08
tarzeaudoes the /var/log/X*log say something your card is too old for 390 driver?04:08
Scottbertthere is no 418 -- there's 340.107, nvidia-driver-390, and noveau04:09
ScottbertAnd if I had money for a new system I would never have ended up on linux :(04:09
ScottbertI am liking how fast and snappy it is though04:10
tarzeauScottbert: sure there is 418, just not in the ubuntu repositories04:10
ScottbertOh. How do I get it?04:10
Meadtarzeau: probably because not everyone can plop down hundreds of dollars on a new video card. Unless you  are trying to play new AAA games, no reason to replace that card.04:11
tarzeau cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list04:11
tarzeaudeb http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1804/x86_64 /04:11
tarzeauMead: no idea what AAA is, but we use the cards (@work) for GPU computing with CUDA (the only game i like is nethack, works with a 80x25 terminal)04:11
tarzeauScottbert: you create that file with that content, apt-get update, apt-get install cuda-10-1 (and it'll install ALL)04:12
tarzeauScottbert: but really check on the nvidia webpage or with the logfile i gave a hint with if your card is supported04:12
tarzeauMead: hundreds? 1080/2080 ti (11 gb mem) are ~1000, the v100 titan 10000 (32gb mem)04:13
MeadAAA games (pronounced "triple A) are like the cutting edge make your GPU cry type games, just released by a major software company04:13
tarzeauand they work on linux?04:13
Bashing-omScottbert: tarzeau :: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .04:13
* tarzeau still likes his old ps1 with wipeout1..3 (guess i'm getting old)04:13
ScottbertHow do I check that my card is still supported?04:14
Bashing-omScottbert: Per: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/145182/en-us you do want the 418 version driver.04:15
Meadtarzeau: Valve is trying to entice other game companies to release them for linux, but SteamOS sorta is hanging on by a thread04:15
tarzeauahhh they also mention aaa games: http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html04:15
ScottbertWhile these update... how do I fix the grub 'booting in blind mode' thing?04:17
Bashing-omScottbert: I expect that installing the proprietary driver will fix that.04:18
ScottbertOK here goes04:19
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ScottbertI still get the blind mode message, but my terminal is back04:22
ScottbertI freaking LOVE how fast Linux boots, how does Windows manage to be so slow?04:22
ScottbertSo. Earlier today, I had a problem where when I go to login with sdds, I type my password, press enter... and it freezes, instead of starting KDE. In case I EVER encounter this again, how might I fix it instead of having to format and reinstall?04:23
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strkthis morning the network manager widget does not show up on my Mate desktop. Any idea why it would be so ?04:57
strknetwork does work. syslog contains this message: Apr 18 06:55:57 liz nm-applet[3903]: Can't set a parent on widget which has a parent04:58
strkalso: Apr 18 06:59:06 liz gnome-panel.desktop[3784]: glibtop(c=3784): [WARNING] statvfs '/run/user/0/gvfs' failed: Permission denied04:59
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jcb2016jeremy31, you around?05:23
lotuspsychjejcb2016: ask your issue here, other volunteers might be able to help05:26
jcb2016ok one sec i think i fixed my issue earlier but i think i got it05:28
jcb2016lotuspsychje, how can i get my video card working in ubuntu im on al ive usb ubuntu trying it out first05:33
jcb2016i just ran sudo update ; sudo upgrade05:33
lotuspsychje__jcb2016: its reccomended if you like ubuntu, you install it to have all things working05:34
scabajcb i think you have to install it first but theres the driver manager you use05:35
scabaif its nvidia if its amd idk05:35
jcb2016lotuspsychje__, i will install it but want to try it out first to make sure everything is working when i install it or to just get the feel of how it works. is it hard to install drivers for the video card i have?05:37
lotuspsychje__jcb2016: drivers normally get automatic chosen by ubuntu as 'best' case05:37
jcb2016oh ok05:37
lotuspsychje__jcb2016: but some devices might need a better driver, you need to install05:38
lotuspsychje__jcb2016: wich card do you have?05:38
scabajcb2016, if you have nvidia just type driver manager or else it uses the crappy open source drivers for nvidia05:38
jcb2016VGA compatible controller [300]: Advanced Mircro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8240 / R3 Series] [1002:9838]05:40
scabaoh yeah ubuntu will use the opensource drivers for amd thats what you want cause theyre good for amd05:41
lotuspsychje__jcb2016: if it needs radeon driver, you probably will be good, if yourcard needs amgdpu you might need a more recent solution05:41
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jcb2016how can i tell if i have the latest drivers for my video card installed?05:43
lotuspsychjejcb2016: sudo lshw -C video, it will show driver behind driver=05:45
lotuspsychjejcb2016: but as we said, now on a liveusb you are not fully up to date05:45
jcb2016ill install it05:46
jcb2016be bak tomorrowow thanks05:46
jcb2016guys im back so im going to install ubuntu but the only connection i have is my iphone tethered to my computer. in the installer can i switch to a terminal window and install the boradcom for my wifi then go back to the istaller and install from there?05:54
lotuspsychjejcb2016: we already discussed this yesterday right05:55
jcb2016lotuspsychje, i don't remember had a lot of stuff going on.05:55
LukeLcan probably activate using the 'additional drivers' submenu in the software & updates program05:55
lotuspsychjejcb2016: you need to install ubuntu 'offline' then you can install broadcom after the install05:55
lotuspsychjejcb2016: the broadcom driver is located on your install medium under /pool05:56
jcb2016lotuspsychje, i had no internet connectino yesteray if i recall05:56
jcb2016i have terethered connectino now so i have some kinda of internet05:56
oilboiWhat time is 19.04 getting released? :D05:56
LukeLyou just delayed it another 30mins :(05:57
oilboiDamn :c05:58
lotuspsychje!party | oilboi05:59
ubottuoilboi: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !disco release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/05:59
jcb2016thanks guys im installing06:00
ScottbertHow do I get lutris to use the existing steam library on my windows partition?06:28
ryahi_skaprinavat what time is 19.04 stable available?06:28
stagmagood morning guys, any idea oat what time 19.04 will be available?06:29
Meadryahi_skaprinav: it is out now  https://tinyurl.com/DiscoDingo06:29
ryahi_skaprinav:) Mead06:30
ScottbertI look forward to braver souls with more linux experience beta testing disco dingo and working out the kinks before I upgrade. Godspeed you folks o706:31
Bashing-om!party | ryahi_skaprinav06:32
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ryahi_skaprinavHaha 17 people attended the party:)06:34
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koalaaaHi folks,  Is there any to install a bootloader from Windows?  I have downloaded a Ubuntu and put it on a usb, but could also have it on the hd, and I want the option to switch to either one or the other before booting06:46
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koalaaaany way to install a bootloader, I should have said06:49
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koalaaaNo help for me, for a bootloader in a windows system?06:52
koalaaaI'll try again.... is there any way to install a bootloader in windows 8, that will give me options to boot up to a Ubuntu on a usb, or on the hd?07:03
koalaaaWhat about Grub2Win from Source Forge?  Would that work?07:08
zapxthe standard ubuntu installer will setup grub (the ubuntu bootloaded) to allow selection of ubuntu or windows if ubuntu is installed onto a disk with a windows partition.07:08
eugenio_hi, i would like to backup some folder to a NAS I have, what do you suggest me?07:09
koalaaazapx, if I download a ubunto onto my win8 computer, I will still not initially have a boot option, will I?  I will still have to do complex things on computer startup, getting into bios, right?07:10
ChristWI have a problem printing, and I am unable to formulate it dstinctly enough to be able to find any advise on the bug tracker or on the web. Maybe someone here can help... When I print a document, the Print dialog shows up (obviously). Now, I select a range of pages to print (2,4,6,8 in this case, to be able to print double sided). Next, I select a number of copies (25), and I de-select 'Collate' (because I want to print all pages 2 first07:11
ChristW, then 4, etc. This makes flipping the stack easier). Now, I click 'Print', but only 1 copy gets printed for each page.07:11
ChristWeugenio_: Ubuntu has a 'Backups' program built in. If you create a share on your NAS that can be reached through Samba ('Windows Share'), you can select that as a backup target.07:12
ChristWThere, you can also setup regular backup intervals.07:12
zapxWhen I boot my PC gives me a screen where I can select ubuntu (default) or windows to boot. No BIOS stuff needed.07:12
koalaaazapx yeah that is what I am looking for.  How did you organise that?07:13
ryuokoalaaa: so you want to dual boot?07:13
koalaaaryuo I guess you could call it that07:14
ryuokoalaaa: unfortunately that's usually easiest to do that when you haven't yet installed windows.07:14
koalaaaWhat about Grub2Win from Source Forge?07:14
ChristWIf I only print one page, I also need to turn on 'Collate' to get the number of copies that I need.07:15
koalaaaryuo the machine already has win8 on it07:15
zapxIt's a few years since I did the ubuntu install so can remember exactly what I did. From memory started windows shrunk the windows partition using windows tool (win 10). Shutdown windows booted ubuntu disto and installed (into now spare partition), somewhere it asked me if I wanted to keep windows and allow booting to it said yes and that was it.07:15
ryuokoalaaa: that won't solve the main issue of having them installed side by side.07:15
ryuokoalaaa: i usually preallocate the disk format i need for dual booting if i am going to do it at all.07:16
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ryuokoalaaa: you'll need to shrink the windows partition if you don't have another drive installed in the machine.07:16
zapxI did follow a article I found. Google around for one. But it was all easy.07:16
ryuokoalaaa: otherwise you could install to another drive and not need to mess with this part.07:17
koalaaaryuo I also have the ubuntu on a usb07:17
ryuothat's not a replacement for a permanent install.07:17
ryuokoalaaa: anyway, you need to make room for at least one partition for Linux to use.07:18
koalaaaryuo so you would recommend put the ubuntu system on the hd?  I think it's already there, and then I copied it to the usb07:18
ryuouh... why are you asking about this if it's already installed?07:19
ryuoi assume you mean the ISO.07:19
koalaaaryuo, what I mean, is that I downloaded a ubuntu program to my windows puter.07:19
koalaaaI also copied it across to a usb07:20
koalaaaI have not done anything to the ubuntu download07:20
koalaaaand don't know how to boot into it, other than messing with stuff at startup07:20
ryuokoalaaa: are you familiar with the normal install process?07:20
koalaaaryuo I followed the ubuntu instructions from their site07:21
ryuowell, the normal process is to install Ubuntu over whatever is there.07:21
ryuothere's no point in booting ubuntu yet.07:22
ryuoyou need to find a way to make room for it first.07:22
ryuothat's usually done by resizing the main windows partition.07:22
koalaaaryuo I thought it would do that for itself07:22
ryuoNo, i don't believe it does. if it does, then that's new.07:23
ryuobut it does detect the presence of windows partitions.07:23
ryuoyou normally don't need something like grub2win07:24
ryuoubuntu will setup a bootloader during install.07:24
koalaaaso, maybe I should just allow ubuntu to install itself, on my win8 puter?07:25
ryuoyes. it's capable of detecting windows partitions. Ubuntu's grub2 takes over from the windows one and will enable dual botting.07:25
ryuonot without precautions.07:25
ryuoRemember what I said about what it does by default?07:25
koalaaayou said, I think, that Ubunto will install over stuff that's already there07:26
ryuothat's the default.07:26
ryuonormally it wipes out the other partitions and overwrites them. that means no more windows install.07:26
koalaaaso that could wipe out some of the windows stuff that's already there?07:26
ryuodefinitely, if it's mismanaged.07:26
DbuggerKelebekUsr2, is a spam bot07:27
koalaaawell I don't want that07:27
DbuggerCan someone please ban him07:27
ryuokoalaaa: any important on the windows partition?07:28
koalaaaryuo yes lots07:28
koalaaabut there's still heaps of room07:28
koalaaaI would guess I'm using less than a quarter of my hd07:28
ryuoyou'll need to find a guide on shrinking the C partition.07:28
zapxkoalaaa. It's not hard but as ryuo says it can destroy so backup first and a quick search will find lots of articles on how to do it.07:29
zapxif you already have spare space that makes it a lot easier.07:29
ryuokoalaaa: it's doable, but i always prefer to install windows to a preallocated partitioning scheme to avoid this mess.07:29
ryuokoalaaa: basically, follow the instructions for shrinking C from windows 807:31
ryuokoalaaa: then boot Ubuntu.07:31
ryuoyou should be able to create a root partition from the vacant space.07:32
zapxyep agree. Pre shrink/partition and write down what all the partitions are so you know what is what when installing.07:32
ryuothen you can install ubuntu to that.07:32
ryuokoalaaa: 8G is enough for root, but you should probably do at least 20G for future expansion.07:32
cim209this bot just messaged me some spam link, please ban KelebekUsr2 from this channel - screenshot here: https://cloud.demyx.com/s/Apj53KyBqsaL2qK07:34
ryuothat won't solve the problem.07:35
NorthwestVeganisnt 19.04 supposed to be released today?07:36
NorthwestVegannice, i just checcked cdimage.ubuntu.com but only the beta is up as of now07:36
ryuocim209: set your user mode to +R to block spam bots.07:37
koalaaaryuo I already have put the ubuntu on a usb with 16 gb capacity07:37
koalaaaIs there a way of booting into that?07:37
ryuokoalaaa: yes... that's not relevant to the root partition size.07:37
ryuokoalaaa: the USB is for booting the live cd which can then install ubuntu.07:38
koalaaaryuo so you cannot just run Ubuntu from the USB?07:38
koalaaalike, boot into the usb?07:39
ryuoyou should be able to boot the USB, but it's not the actual Ubuntu environment. it's a simulation of it. nothing you do in it will be saved.07:39
koalaaaoh phooey07:40
ryuoyou can then install Ubuntu from it.07:40
ryuobut before that i said you need to make room for a root partition.07:40
koalaaainstall ubunto from the USB into the computer?07:40
ryuoyes.. it's the same way that windows installer works.07:40
ryuoyou boot up an environment that exists primarily to install the real OS.07:41
koalaaaand after downloading ubuntu from their site, when you double click on the executive file, isn't there  an option so that the install does it's own partitioning?07:42
ryuowhat? ubuntu normally comes as an ISO... what executable?07:42
koalaaaryuo the file you download from the Ubuntu site.  Isn't that an executable file?  That you click on, to activate?07:43
ryuokoalaaa: link?07:43
koalaaaI forget quite how I did that07:43
ryuogives me an ISO.07:44
ryuokoalaaa: i've already told you what you need to do. if you're not going to take the first step, then i can't help you further.07:45
ryuokoalaaa: if dual booting seems too hard, perhaps you should try installing in VirtualBox.07:46
eugenio_ChristW, I used it yesterday, but it is not clear how does it work. It seems that only a storage location can be set. If I would set a destionation folder on NAS for each folder I can't. Moreover, the folder I have already backupped presents now many files named 'duplicity-full.xxxx.gpg What are they?07:47
zapxkoalaaa Yes the ubuntu installed has a partitioning tool but you can't use it to "shrink" i.e. retain the data in a partition. If you don't need to "shrink" the windows partition. i.e. you already have spare space on the disk then you can create new partitions in the ubuntu installer.07:47
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koalaaaryuo I believe I did download ubuntu from that site   https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=18.04.2&architecture=amd6407:49
anikrasHi I am using ubuntu 18 and it's my workstation07:50
anikrasI tried to use "sudo su -"07:50
ryuokoalaaa: then you have an ISO, not an EXE most likely.07:50
anikrasI have this error: No se puede ejecutar {anikras}: No existe el archivo o el directorio07:50
anikrasI revied /etc/sudoers and it's ok07:51
ryuoanikras: rerun it with: LANG=C sudo su -07:51
ryuoanikras: so we can see what it says in English.07:51
anikrasryuo, Cannot execute {anikras}: No such file or directory07:51
ryuowhy are you running su with sudo?07:52
ryuoyou can use sudo -u <name> -i07:52
koalaaaryuo I think I recall clicking on the download to activate it07:52
anikrasI need to login with root user07:52
ryuook... then do sudo -i07:52
ryuothat runs a login shell as root07:53
hazeyezanyone have any luck connecting to ZNC? i am trying for the first time it wont connect07:53
anikrasryuo, sudo: {anikras}: command not found07:53
esrowhat hour 19.04 releases ?07:53
ryuoanikras: all i can tell you is it's trying to execute a command named {anikras}07:54
ryuono idea why.07:54
anikrasme neither07:55
ducasseesro: ask in #ubuntu+107:55
hazeyezcan someone help me connect to ZNC?07:55
NorthwestVeganidk esro byt uts not up yet07:55
NorthwestVegan*but its not07:55
ChristWeugenio_: That's an encrypted backup from the time that you ran a full backup...07:56
ryuoubottu: is it out?07:56
ubotturyuo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:56
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:56
ryuoi remember it having a trigger for releases?07:56
ubotturyuo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:56
ubottuno, not yet out. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule07:56
ryuothat's it.07:56
hazeyezHello, I have a new ZNC account via KIREnet - but I am havind trouble connecting, can anyone help??07:57
eugenio_ChristW, I still don't understand how does it work07:57
ryuohazeyez: did it occur to you to ask their support?07:57
hazeyezryuo - yes I am using their instructions, and my IRC client will not connect07:58
ChristWeugenio_: Those files are there, so you have made a backup. I don't know from which folders, but either your full home directory and everything in it (Downloads, Documents...), or some other folder you specified.07:58
ducassehazeyez: it's not an ubuntu issue07:58
eugenio_ChristW, I need something like a time machine, I want to replicate different folders in different folders on NAS (possibly automatically)07:58
ChristWYou can use the Backups program to restore (part of) the files that you have made a backup of.07:58
hazeyezducasse: I can make it an ubuntu issue07:59
eugenio_ChristW, is there other solutions?07:59
ChristWeugenio_: https://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/ might help you to see what you can and cannot do with Deja Dup (the 'Backups' program).08:03
qwebirc96013any news about the 19.04 release08:14
tarzeauqwebirc96013: not there yet https://www.ubuntu.com/#download08:15
tarzeauqwebirc96013: wrong time, wait until 2100 UTC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule08:15
tarzeauah wait that's for freezes08:15
ducasseqwebirc96013: ask in #ubuntu+108:16
wyseguyqwebirc96013, downloading 19.04 studio atm08:16
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eugenio_ChristW, this is clearer, thanks for this suggestion. However, I don't find 'Revert to previous version' and 'restore missing files' among the nautilus option....I presume I'm using a different ubuntu desktop, right?08:28
ChristWeugenio_: When I right-click a file in Nautilus, I do get 'Revert to previous version...', but I can't find 'Restore missing files' either. Looks like those instructions are a bit out-dated....08:32
ChristWAnd I don't run Nautilus as the default file browser these days, so I had to run it manually. But then, I got the 'Revert...' option (but, like I said, not the 'restore missing files' option.08:33
eugenio_ChristW, I have not 'Revert..' on right click08:35
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eugenio_ChristW, I'm using Files 3.26.4, which should be the same of Nautilus, isn't it?08:35
ChristWeugenio_: I don't know why not. Are you able to restore an individual file (or folder) using the 'Backups' program?08:35
ChristWI don't know if they are the same. Else, click on the 'Applications' icon (or Alt-F2, I think...) and type 'Nau'. It should show (as a suggestion) "nautilus --new-window".08:37
ChristWTry with that one.08:37
eugenio_ChristW, no, I only can choose if restore the backup as whole in the same locations or in specified by me locations08:38
ChristWAnd if you run Nautilus manually?08:39
eugenio_manually Files program opens08:40
quizzzAre there any informations on what time today the new 19.04 images will be published? Where could I check that?08:42
ubottuno, not yet out. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule08:43
eugenio_ChristW, I tried both your suggestions (Alt-F2 type Nau... new window and launch Nautilus manually) both times a new window of 'Files' was open08:45
eugenio_of course 'Revert ...' doesn't appear08:45
k_sze[work]If I have sudo, how do I change the password for another user who has forgotten their password?08:55
k_sze[work]nvm, found it.08:57
MrElendigman passwd09:02
TheSilentLink1904 is out! http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/09:07
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ht3kso where's the Ubuntu launch party?09:20
ducasseht3k: #ubuntu-release-party09:21
ht3ktyvm! I had typed it without the dashes haha09:22
lunaUbuntu 19.04 Release party at TG LAN in Norway later tonight09:31
ryahi_skaprinavubuntu 19.04 torrent link released09:35
ubottuno, not yet out. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule09:35
ChunkzZryahi_skaprinav, link?09:42
ryahi_skaprinavChunkzZ: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/09:45
filifunkyHi, basic question.  So Ubuntu Software has darktable in it, a photo processor.  It is an older version than the website indicates.  There are later packages available but there's more work putting them together.  There are even Unstable versions.  When does a project become stable?  When would Ubuntu Software pick up a newer version?09:52
EastCharlieArchlinux recommend...09:56
ryahi_skaprinavEastCharlie: yes but only if you know how to use commandline09:57
ChunkzZryahi_skaprinav, link doesn't work...09:57
ryahi_skaprinavChunkzZ: I'm downloading right now.09:58
ryahi_skaprinavChunkzZ: http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/09:59
ChunkzZryahi_skaprinav, I'll wait for the announcement :P10:00
ryahi_skaprinavChunkzZ: As you wish10:00
ChunkzZryahi_skaprinav, there might be a change... lol10:00
CedaraHow do I find out which libraries are missing in steam? The latest update from today just broke it and told me that some 32 libs are missing, but I failed to note down which.10:03
CedaraI run Ubuntu 16.0410:03
CedaraBefore the update, it worked fine.10:03
killtheclock /msg alis LIST10:04
ryahi_skaprinavCedara: run "sudo apt --fix-broken install steam"10:05
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ducasse!latest | filifunky10:10
ubottufilifunky: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:10
jStefanfilifunky, usually a release starts by copying most packages from debian testing10:10
blackflowfilifunky: there's a darktable snap.  `snap info darktable` will give you info on available versions and channels. current stable is 2.6.210:11
jStefanfilifunky, sometimes you can install a package meant for a newer ubuntu release, or even a debian release, but YMMV.10:11
ducassejStefan: we don't recommend doing that here10:12
jStefanwell, I said YMMV, it's an option, not a recommendation10:13
blackflowfilifunky: however, I must warn you to check who the "vendor" for the snap is, and wheter you'd trust them. from what I see, it's not a "verified" snapcraft.io provider.10:13
blackflowjStefan: sounded like a sanctioned advice.10:14
filifunkyblackflow, it just sucks that snaps are sandboxed but understand the security benefit10:14
blackflowfilifunky: sucks how? that's a good thing.10:15
filifunkyblackflow -- I can't access my photos on my hard drive.  They aren't stored on my booting hard drive ssd.10:16
MrElendigyou can use snap connect etc to work around that10:18
blackflowfilifunky: I don't know which interfaces that snap enables/needs, but if it's confined to access your ~/  then surely you can (bind) mount or symlink there, the actual photo storage?10:18
blackflowpreventing random access to random paths is ultimately a good thing. security and convenience are on the opposite side of usability spectrum.10:18
MrElendigabusing the removeable-media interface10:18
filifunkyohhhhhh, I'll have to look at that snap connect MrElendig10:19
filifunkyMrElendig what do you mean abusing?10:19
filifunkyblackflow I'll have to look into those sometime10:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1643706 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snap apps need to be able to browse outside of user $HOME dir. for Desktop installs" [Undecided,Fix released]10:19
MrElendigbut yea, this is one of the really silly things of snap10:20
MrElendigand there isn't really a good reason for the hardcoded /home and /media limitation10:20
CedaraThanks, @ryhadi_skaprinav - I shall try that.10:21
Cedara@ryhadi_skaprinav that didn't work10:23
blackflowwell I beg to differ, access to random pahts goes against the idea of sandboxing snaps which are designed to be uploadable by anyone with no supervision or audit by any "official". I agree that there could be more options added to explicitly enable specific paths.10:23
blackflow(a bit offtopic here though, we can continue in #ubuntu-discuss if you want)10:24
MrElendigblackflow: what is silly is the hardcoded limit of just those two paths, not that it doesn't allow access to arbitary non-configured paths. There isn't really any good arguments for not supporting a configurable whitelist10:25
blackflowI suppose those two are defaults because users who don't plug in their drives (which appear under /media) but have manual (NFS, SMB, ...) mounts elsewhere, could easily just bind into ~/10:26
CedaraThe output from the terminal tells me it's the newest version of steam10:28
CedaraSo it didn't do anything.10:28
MrElendigrunning steam-native or -runtime?10:29
CedaraI put in the >steam command and this is the result10:30
blackflowCedara: btw what update exactly? the apt package is just a launcher, so did the update come from Steam?10:30
Cedarayes @blackflow10:30
MrElendigtry starting steam-native10:31
Cedaraand this is the error message: internal error: /home/mkusch/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/setup.sh is missing, this runtime is invalid or corrupted10:31
MrElendigcould also mv ~/.steam and try again10:31
blackflowthat would remove all local installations tho'. one of reasons why I always configure a separate path for local storage, ability to rm and reinstall in case of problems.10:33
CedaraI'd rather not move anything where I have no idea why I'm doing that.10:36
Cedaraand it's -runtime, @MrElendig10:36
MrElendigit will make it redownload the runtime10:40
Cedarawait what?10:41
BluesKajHowdy all10:45
blackflowCedara: see comment 2 here:  https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/530645446305521092/   it is for windows, but structure of the .steam dir should be pretty much the same. the idea is to keep the installed steamapps which is a dir you can really just move around, but that doesn't cover savegames for games that don't use the steam cloud.10:47
blackflowCedara: so technically you could be able to mv ~/.steam to something else, then reinstall steam, then mv back steamapps and then on a per-case basis recover any savegames that need to be recovered10:47
CedaraAh, I see.10:49
CedaraI'll see to try that over the holidays.10:50
CedaraOtherwise, I can upgrade and change over 18.04 - if everything fails (lol).10:50
CedaraEspecially if it's a support thing, that only the latest LTS is supported.10:51
blackflowCedara: not sure if that would change anything, if steam's own update (which would be the same between xenial and bionic) broke.  fwiw, I'm on Bionic and I had no update for Steam in weeks (just checked).10:54
Cedara@blackflow I filed a support request, maybe someone will respond.10:55
gauruHi Guys, I recently migrated from windows to Ubuntu. But my system freeze randomly so often that I am unable to do any work. I tried to look in google but nothing is working.10:58
tarzeaugauru: /var/log/syslog ? dmesg -T ? overheating parts?10:58
tarzeaugauru: ~/.xsession maybe? funny noises from the device? full freeze? graphics card? mouse moves? ping still works?10:59
gaurufull freeze. I had to hard reboot always10:59
gauruplease HELP!!!!10:59
gauruno funny noises11:00
tomreyngauru: pleas eupload your system journal and post the url: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999911:00
gaurueven when I am using light programs11:00
gaurutomreyn, I am trying to do as you said in your last comment11:03
gaurutomreyn,  https://termbin.com/8ry111:05
tomreyngauru: why did you set acpi=force ?11:06
gaurutomreyn, I have no idea11:06
gaurutomreyn, I am such a newbie11:07
gauruI feel lost11:07
tomreynso you have an AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics - this is rather new hardware, isnt it?11:07
gaurutomreyn, but my laptop is at least 3-4 years old, it was given to me by my previous company11:08
tomreyngauru: yes, actually not that new. i'll review your log now, this will take some 5-10 minutes, please stand by.11:11
gaurutomreyn, I'll be eternally grateful11:12
GreyXorHello everyone, i have Ubuntu Server 18.10 and want to go in 19.04. so i have write this "do-release-upgrade" (prompt is normal) and he don't find new version. the 19.04 is released or not ?11:12
GreyXorNo new release found.11:13
ubottuno, not yet out. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule11:13
ChunkzZno GreyXor11:13
GreyXor18 april11:13
ChunkzZsome time today yes but NOT yet.11:13
guivercGreyXor, if you don't want to wait; you can always use `-d` option11:16
tomreyngauru: your HP 255 G4 Notebook PC/80CB has BIOS F.12 (07/30/2015).  The current BIOS version is F.27 Rev.A, available at  https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-255-g4-notebook-pc/7609936/swItemId/ob-223486-1  - refer to the "revision history" available there to get a better idea of why upgrading the firmware may seem like a good idea.11:16
tomreyngauru: manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c0465388111:19
gaurutomreyn, i'll try to upgrade it now, using the above command11:19
gaurusudo  manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c0465388111:20
gauru[sudo] password for gauru:11:20
gaurusudo: manual: command not found11:20
gauruthe above link is to .exe file, doesn't exe files are for windows11:22
gauruType: BIOSVersion: F.27 Rev.AOperating Systems:11:22
gauruHide all11:22
gauruMicrosoft Windows 10 (64-bit)11:22
gauruMicrosoft Windows 7 (64-bit)11:22
gauruMicrosoft Windows 8.1 (64-bit)11:22
gauruRelease date:Jan 11, 2019File name: sp93361.exe (9.5 MB)11:22
JimBuntugauru, the firmware update is only supported by Win 7, 8.1 and 10 ( as stated at the site )11:22
tomreyn!paste | gauru11:22
ubottugauru: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:22
tomreyngauru: you're not supposed to run "sudo  manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04653881" - i just posted this link to tell you where you can download the manual for this system11:23
guivercgauru, you can often install firmware using freedos too (running .exe); booted from thumb-drive (like Ubuntu 'live')11:23
deancUbuntu 19 out when today, and what will be the upgrade process?11:24
lunadeanc: 6 hours11:24
gauruguiverc, tomreyn: shall i try freedos then11:25
deancoki, and what is the best/safest way of upgrading from 18.04 (I only installed it last week)11:25
tomreyngauru: about the .exe file, you'Re right, this one will probably only work with windows. this is an "insyde" UEFI firmware, you could update it from linux using the firmware vendors' utilities, but would loose warranty this way.11:25
tomreynoh gone11:25
guivercgauru, i don't know whether freedos will run that .exe - it was a suggestion that sure beats installing windows to update..11:25
tuokHi all, does someone know when desktop image of Disco Dingo will be available?11:27
tomreyngauru: about the .exe file, you'Re right, this one will probably only work with windows. this is an "insyde" UEFI firmware, you could update it from linux using the firmware vendors' utilities, but would loose warranty this way.11:27
tomreyntuok: scroll up11:27
tuoktomreyn: Sorry I just joined, cannot seem to have any history11:28
gaurutomreyn, i don't have any warrant11:28
tuokOh there's this log site, I'll check that.11:29
gaurutomreyn, where do i find  firmware vendors' utilities11:29
tomreyntuok: sorry, luna just said it'll be available in 6 hours (i don't know what this is based on).11:29
tuoktomreyn: Ok, I'll wait some, thanks for the info!11:31
analogicalwhy doesn't Ubuntu install the Synaptic Package Manager by default?11:31
tomreyntuok: generally, it's planned for sometime today, which probably means sometime today by the UK timezone. and it's 12:30 (lunchtime) there now.11:31
BluesKajmaybe he's i hawaii or someplace 6hrs behind EDT\11:32
tomreyn!discuss | analogical11:32
ubottuanalogical: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!11:32
tomreyngauru: i only started writing down the firmware upgrade process here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FimwareUpgrade/Insyde - but the relevant part is still missing and i cannot recommend you do this at this time.11:35
tomreyngauru: the other approach is probably to install windows. i think it can be installed to external media as well nowadays. ask in ##windows for more suggestions.11:36
tomreyngauru: generally, your log looks fine, but this may be due to the non default ACPI kernel parameter you have set.11:36
imj0sephHi all. I am trying to create a bootable USB stick with the Ubuntu 18.10 mini.iso. After running 'sudo dd if='mini.iso' of=/dev/sda bs=4096' (which completed successfully) I am unable to boot into it regardless (it does not show up in the BIOS boot menu). Flashing full .iso desktop images works. Is there a specific way of going about this? Thanks11:37
tomreyngauru: i assume you may get a more stable and better performing system by using the amdgpu insstead of the radeon graphics driver, but need yet to look up whether this is actually going to work with your hardware.11:38
isomari'm getting curl error: "curl: (1) Protocol "https" not supported or disabled in libcurl".11:40
tomreynimj0seph: mini.iso may not be installable this way. you may need to use a regular iso writerr utility such as https://etcher.io11:40
isomariHow can I get ssl support for curl?11:40
tomreynisomari: please post this: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)11:40
ChunkzZtomreyn: yes it is.11:40
imj0sephtomreyn: I will try this and report back, thank you11:40
gaurutomreyn, please suggest me an action11:41
gaurui'll do the research and implement it11:41
gaurui am in quite a dire situation right now11:41
tomreynimj0seph: ChunkzZ seems to say that mini.iso can actually be properly written to usb storage using dd.11:41
isomarinc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)11:41
ChunkzZGive up gauru11:41
isomaritomreyn: now what?11:41
tomreynimj0seph: you should also check that your mini.iso download is intact.11:42
tomreyn!md5 | imj0seph11:42
ubottuimj0seph: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows11:42
ChunkzZtomreyn: yes, it works.11:42
tomreynChunkzZ: thanks. please talk to imj0seph.11:42
gaurui am afraid i dont' have windows key to install windows now11:43
tomreyngauru: i suggest you install windows on a removable storage (after checking that's possible) and boot off it, install the firmware upgrade, remove the acpi=force kernel parameter you apparently configured off ubuntu, and boot.11:44
tomreyngauru: i'm not going to support windows here, but you probbaly don't need a key.11:44
tomreynisomari: please run the command you posted in a terminal on your computer, and post the http address it returns here11:45
imj0sephI'm trying to find the 18.10 amd64 mini.iso MD5 checksum online to compare it to the one I have but I cannot seem to find it11:47
lapidarydoes anyone know if Snap is to replace the apt repo, or is it just a new layer11:47
tomreynimj0seph: try a directory above the mini.iso on the webserver11:47
tomreynlapidary: at this time snaps are complementary to apt, and there are no current plans to replace apt.11:48
imj0sephtomreyn: ah, i am an idiot. I didn't think to do that. thanks.11:48
imj0sephYep, my md5sum corresponds with the one on there11:49
tomreynimj0seph: okay, now use a utility which will verify that the write was successful to write the iso to a removable storage.11:49
tomreynsuch as https://etcher.io11:50
tomreyn<tomreyn> gauru: i'm not going to support windows here, but you probably don't need a key.11:50
scaniatruckerlapidar: check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager) and this https://askubuntu.com/questions/963404/what-do-snap-snapd-and-snappy-refer-to11:51
imj0sephtomreyn: will do, I will let you know of the results. thanks for your help so far11:52
lapidarythanks tomreyn and scaniatrucker11:53
tomreynyou're both welcome.11:54
lapidaryThis room must fall apart when tom leaves11:56
tomreyngauru: in case you keep reconnecting because your computer keeps freezing, please connect to the chat using a different device (mobile phone?) and the webchat at http://webchat.freenode.net instead.11:56
imj0sephtomreyn: Etcher flashed successfully. It still does not display when attempting to boot with it. When plugging it in, nautilus reveals two disks: "CDROM" and "Firmware"11:56
ilyaigpetrovHi. I try to install gcloud sdk on 19.04 and get an error: "E: The repository 'http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-disco Release' does not have a Release file." -- how can I troubleshoot it or fix?11:56
ilyaigpetrovimj0seph: do you have a blank screen after choosing an item in GRUB?11:57
tomreynlapidary: surely not, we're many kind souls volunteering here.11:57
tomreynimj0seph: can you take a screenshot and post it to imgur.com (and the link here)?11:58
gaurutomreyn, i'll try to install hexchat on iphone11:58
ioriaimj0seph, mini.iso does not support uefi, if it's the case here11:58
qwebirc3873hi, is there any way to know if my Ubuntu install is not corrupt? my USB drive got disconnected accidentally just before the end of the install11:58
qwebirc3873but everything seems in order11:58
imj0sephioria: Oh, damn, yes that would be the problem then.11:58
qwebirc3873in fact, I'm typing from the disk install right now11:58
ioriaimj0seph, boot in legacy /csm11:59
tomreynimj0seph: this is the usb stick content you should see after writing to it: https://i.imgur.com/xeJVe61.png12:00
ilyaigpetrovimj0seph: I have a blank screen with 19.04 on uefi, typing commands in blind to launch xorg worked for me but after installing the OS I was unable to use virtual terminal which I like to use12:00
gauruthere is no hexChat app in ios, please suggest a good app to connect to freenode12:01
gauruin ios12:01
isomaritomreyn: the command returned: https://termbin.com/0wft12:01
tomreynioria: actually there is uefi boot code on the mini.iso12:01
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ioriayep, but does not works12:01
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ryahi_skaprinavhow to bring top bar to the bottom?12:01
ilyaigpetrovisomari: I like irccloud but guys in #linux blacklisted it because it allows anonimization12:01
ilyaigpetrovisomari: sorry12:02
ilyaigpetrovgauru: ^12:02
davi_dkris there any way to check if my Ubuntu install is fine? disconnected my USB drive accidentally just before it finished installing12:02
davi_dkrstuff seems in order, I'm using it right now. just to be sure12:02
pragmaticenigmailyaigpetrov: Unfortunately that repository is operated by an organization not part of Canonical. You will have to find a help forum related to that product or PPA.12:02
ryahi_skaprinavhow to bring top bar to the bottom?12:03
tomreynisomari: run these commands in a temrinal, and report any errors:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install libcurl3-gnutls12:03
ilyaigpetrovryahi_skaprinav: it depends on the Desktop Environment I guess you use the default one which is Gnome, try google using this keyword12:04
isomaritomreyn: no errors. nothing to install or update.12:04
tomreyndavi_dkr: you should still reinstall. parts of your current installation are likely broken or incomplete.12:05
gaurui'll be on mutter soon12:05
pragmaticenigmailyaigpetrov: Please don't feel you need to respond to each inquiry. If you do not have a solution, please allow others to attempt to help. Sending someone to Google isn't why we're here.12:05
tomreynioria: thanks, wasnt aware12:06
ioriatomreyn, you need some manual tweaks to make it work12:06
ilyaigpetrovpragmaticenigma: by my hint may lead to a solution and nobody else is replying here12:07
ilyaigpetrovreplying to ryahi_skaprinav12:07
tomreynilyaigpetrov: about your apt error, you're using a PPA which does not support your ubuntu release. remove it using ppa-purge (which is available from a package of the same name)12:07
imj0sephtomreyn: yes, I get that when writing mini.iso. Booting into legacy mode on my machine allows me to see the USB stick, but you say that the mini.iso has UEFI code. In reality, this is all a larger symptom of me not being able to set up LVM+LUKS with separate /, /home, and /swap partitions using Ubiquity, but with it being possible using the curses-style installed that mini.iso provides.12:07
tomreynilyaigpetrov: thinking again, you will need to manually remove it, ppa-purge fails when trying to remove packages which have no release file for your ubuntu release.12:08
tomreynilyaigpetrov: look for the apt repository configuration file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and delete it or rename it to *.list.save12:08
ilyaigpetrovtomreyn: thanks, can I replace "deb http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-disco main" on "deb http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-cosmic main"? Will it hurt?12:09
tomreynisomari: please describe exactly what happens when you boot from mini.iso. also tell us about your hardware - CPU, graphics chipsets, amount of RAM.12:11
tomreynisomari: sorry, this wasnt for you12:12
pragmaticenigmailyaigpetrov: What version of Ubuntu are you on?12:12
isomaritomreyn: np12:12
ilyaigpetrovpragmaticenigma: 19.04, ubuntu server12:12
pragmaticenigmailyaigpetrov: 19.04 is not officially released yet. Support in #ubuntu+112:13
tomreynisomari: try running the command again which returned the curl error earlier - does it still rport this error now?12:13
pragmaticenigmaryahi_skaprinav: Which desktop environment are you using? Gnome-Desktop, KDE, LXDE, XFCE? If you are unsure, which flavor of Ubuntu did you install; Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, UbuntuMate?12:14
ryahi_skaprinavpragmaticenigma, Using gnome ubuntu 19.0412:15
tomreynimj0seph: how does ubiquity fail with the partitioning scheme you discussed?12:15
ryahi_skaprinavpragmaticenigma, I was able to solve the problem using gnome extension12:15
pragmaticenigmaryahi_skaprinav: Ubuntu 19.04 has not been officially released yet. Please understand support will not be available in this channel until it has been officially released. Until then please use #ubuntu+112:16
ryahi_skaprinavIt's download link is available :)12:16
ryahi_skaprinavAnd i mean the stable one12:16
tomreynyes there is http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/12:17
tomreynit's not released until the announcement went out, though12:17
ubottuno, not yet out. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule12:17
masfourhow to install firefox browser12:18
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tomreynhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ would announce the reelease12:18
M_aDryahi_skaprinav: there's no official announcement so to me it's not released yet. Plus the fact that there are still some isos being tested like lubuntu the netboot ones and server isos iirc12:18
tomreynmasfour: open a temrinal windows and type: sudo apt update && sudo apt install firefox12:19
exellhi, im having an issue with gnu grub 2.02 it wont bring up the selection menu. I've tried all the cm path and prefix etc and it still returns to just a grub> command line after a reboot12:21
tomreynexell: which ubuntu version is this? is this a new ubuntu installation, or did this happen all of a sudden? did you make configuration changes (such as on your firmware configuration screen) which may have triggered this? what do yuo mean by "cm path" and "prefix etc"?12:23
exelltomreyn: i just wiped ubuntu 18.02 its a new installation, it worked before, it just says grub> and i followed some instructions on the web like going into hd1,gpt6 and into boot etc but when i reboot it just shows the grub> again12:25
tomreynexell: ubuntu 18.02 does not exist. which ubuntu release version, type, architecture and desktop flavour (if any) did you install this time? how did you install it? did the installation succeed without errors and warnings?12:27
tomreyn(if you know the file name of the ISO file you downloaded, this will answer the first question.)12:28
exelltomeryn: sorry, 18.04.1 lts its vanilla ubuntu with vanilla ubuntu atm as its a totally fresh install direct from ubuntu12:28
tomreynexell: please download and use the 18.04.2 installer instead.12:29
exellit installed without any errors, i can sometimes get the bootloader to work messing with grub settings but it defaults to prompt12:29
exellI had issues trying to get a new usb to work so I've used the 18.04.1 which I know worked perfectly before12:30
tomreynwhat kind of issues?12:30
qwebirc68735still no sign of 19.1012:31
tomreynqwebirc68735: not until october, no12:31
CedaraI'd like to hail back in that the move worked, but I have another question.12:31
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Cedara@MrElendig That idea of yours worked. But do I have to reinstall the games or can I make steam find them for me?12:33
threshhowdy. are there non-live versions for the 19.04 server isos?12:34
gauruI have found from ##windows that live usb disk is not possible, i would install windows and use the unactivated version to update my firmware/bios, then i would install ubuntu again12:34
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | thresh12:35
ubottuthresh: Disco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+112:35
tomreyngauru: good plan then. sorry, wasn't aware.12:35
gaurutomreyn, thanks for the support12:36
tomreynyou're welcome, gauru12:36
gaurui'll be back to update you. i wish I had a usb disk now, i can't waiot12:37
exelltomreyn: i fixed it buddy, its a weird setting in my motherboard, cos its mounted on a m.2 ssd it was showing two instances on my eufi bios i just changed it to the other drive and it just worked :D12:38
tomreynioria: i just UEFI booted the 18.04.2 amd64 mini.iso in virtualbox (only) fine.12:38
tomreynexell: your UEFI firmware, while in the (default) UEFI boot mode, will always use the first EFI system partition (ESP) on the first drive it finds only.12:40
tomreynalas you cannot switch between what you'll boot by changing the storage device initialization ordering on the firmware, as you could with BIOS firmware.12:41
tomreyn(i'm just guessing you may have tried to do this.)12:42
isomaritomreyn: sorry, I was away. Yes, same error12:45
tomreynisomari: please show the full command you run to produce the error, and the full output it produces.12:46
isomarithe original error comes form neovim :checkhealth. I'm sure the error is becasue the installed curl has no https support. I'm trying to figure out why this is the ony machine with the problem. However, when I uninstall curl and rsinstall, it still has no https support.12:53
TheSilentLinkjava 8 has been removed from 1904?12:55
tomreynisomari: curl https support is provided by a separate package, whose name starts with "libcurl-" - there can be multiple options. for 18.10 there seem to be libcurl3-gnutls and libcurl3-nss.12:56
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | TheSilentLink12:57
ubottuTheSilentLink: Disco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+112:57
isomaritomreyn: I C. I'll look into that now ...........13:00
gautamHi there, I just upgraded my kernel to 4.18.20 and I am having trouble installing linux-tools, as `apt-cache` only shows versions up to 4.18.0-17.1813:00
TheSilentLinkthe official iso is out for Ubuntu budgie though.13:00
tomreynTheSilentLink: 19.04 will be supported here when the release has been announced at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/13:01
tomreyngautam: linux-tools is kernel version specific. the kernel version you installed is not supported here.13:02
gautam`Hi there, I have built a custom kernel on version 4.18.20. However, I cannot run perf since I don't have the proper version of linux-tools. However, when I try to run `apt-get install linux-tools-4.18.20`, it says it doesn't exist. Do I need to upgrade my apt repository? How can I get the proper version of perf/linux-tools for my kernel? Thaks13:06
gautam`Hi there, I have built a custom kernel on version
gautam`  However, I cannot run perf since I don't have the proper13:07
gautam`  version of linux-tools. However, when I try to run `apt-get13:07
gautam`  install linux-tools-4.18.20`, it says it doesn't exist. Do I13:07
gautam`  need to upgrade my apt repository? How can I get the proper13:07
gautam`  version of perf/linux-tools for my kernel? Thanks!13:07
lotuspsychjegautam`: custom kernels arent supported here, use !mainline instead13:07
tomreyn!paste| gautam`13:11
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tomreynmainline kernels are not supported here either, except for testing.13:13
tomreynbut there will likely be tools packages available for those.13:13
* OerHeks seeding 19.04 torrents13:15
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analogicalhow do I a force Ubuntu to show hidden files and folders?13:18
lotuspsychjeanalogical: ctrl + h13:18
tomreynthat's if you run gnome and nautilus13:19
janusssls -a13:20
BluesKajemail from Adam Conrad,  "Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) released" !13:25
dnegreirawoop woop!13:26
janusssSo the livepatch is up now?13:29
ubottuCanonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 14.04 and higher installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at https://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch13:30
janusssI checked it earlier, but it told me it didn't support the version13:31
tomreynPlease Contact Canonical if you have questions about Canonical products.13:31
tomreyn...other than those which are community supported13:31
OerHeksjanusss, what version exactly?13:32
janussstomreyn: I didn't subscribe to the Canonical though :(13:32
janusss2019/04/18 21:33:03 error executing enable: Livepatchd error: The platform Ubuntu 19.04 is not supported. exiting.13:33
tomreynjanusss: as far as i know Canonical provides Livepatch for LTS releases only.13:33
janusssOkay, thanks for the information tomreyn :)13:34
tomreynyou're welcome, janusss13:35
cryptodanwhy does live patch require snap?13:36
leftyfbwow, that was quick (19.04)13:37
lotuspsychjecryptodan: some packages are now default a snap on ubuntu13:37
tomreyncryptodan: Please Contact Canonical if you have questions about Canonical products which ar enot community supported.13:37
janusssBeta was out a while13:37
raubEasy apparmor question: I am having problems starting mysql (lines 1-2 in https://paste.centos.org/view/23171838), so I add lines 5-6 to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld. And restart. And still seem to be having the same issues.13:37
cryptodanit was just a question figured someone might know wow13:38
lotuspsychjecryptodan: to see wich df -h on your system13:38
tomreynraub: what does this report?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)13:39
ViperChiefSo...is it just my comptuer or is Dingo not ready for dist-upgrade?13:46
OerHeksViperChief, it is just released, be patient i guess13:47
BluesKajViperChief, sudo do-release-upgrade13:48
ViperChiefYeah, that's why I wanted to make sure. I saw a bunch of posts about it being released.13:48
ViperChiefBluesKaj: I did. :(13:48
lotuspsychjeViperChief: is your system up to date?13:48
BluesKajnot dist-upgrade13:49
ViperChiefI know. I did both13:49
leftyfbViperChief: it is released for download via ubuntu.com. The do-release-upgrade might take some more time13:49
BluesKajupgrade your existing system first , if you're on 18.1013:49
ViperChiefGotcha. Been a while since I updgraded this way (maybe three years). My home computer already has it but that was a clean install. I didn't feel like clean installing my work computer.13:50
ViperChiefSo...was hoping it was ready because I'm impressed with dingo :)13:50
BluesKajsome repos might not have it yet13:50
lunahttp://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent 0 day Ubuntu Linux warez13:55
allhafraБлин, а с мышки 18.04 не смог зайти сюда)...13:55
lotuspsychje!ru | allhafra13:55
ubottuallhafra: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:55
jcottonnow I'm curious if that message is machine translated or not13:56
raver!de | raver13:58
ubotturaver, please see my private message13:58
OerHeks!ops | luna spreading FUD13:58
ubottuluna spreading FUD: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax13:58
lunaOerHeks: sorry was just trying to be funny13:58
hggdhluna: please, not here13:59
lunahggdh: ok13:59
GerowenI have a drive in a raid 1 group, but it is not functioning and data is not being duplicated.  The drive is fine and I "just" created this raid group, so I'm sure it's some oversight on my part since I'm new to setting up raid in Linux.  How can I force /dev/sdb1 to start functioning and for the data to be duplicated to it?  Output of cat /proc/mdstat is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ksbyn2MXw5/14:08
GerowenOh nevermind I think I understand what I'm looking at now.14:10
GerowenThe percentage of "recovery" is how far along it is in duplicating the data, and it's showing up as not functioning because it hasn't finished yet.14:11
tomreynthis seems to be correct.14:11
tomreynestimated completion in 891.6min14:11
ExmixSo can anyone help me figure out my eth0 doesn't start upon boot? I have to 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' every time I start up. It shows up when running 'ifconfig -a' so it's there, but it just doesn't start on boot. I've added it to my '/etc/network/interfaces/'' and that doesn't work either. Even after a reboot, 'sudo ifcondif eth0 up' doesn't work. So I need to remove it from the the '/etc/network/interfaces', reboot and then it works.14:12
tomreynGerowen: are those HDDs?14:12
jcottonisn't there systemd stuff for that Exmix ?14:13
ExmixHonestly, i'm not sure. I'm still semi-new with certain system settings and configs with this.14:14
BluesKajExmix, using network-manager?]14:14
tomreynExmix: which ubuntu release is this?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)14:14
lordcirth_Gerowen, yes, when creating an mdraid, there is no concept of 'data used'. There is only a block device. So it must copy the first drive to the second to reach a consistent state, even if there's no data you care about.14:14
Exmixtomreyn: I'm runing Kubuntu 18.0414:15
lordcirth_Gerowen, if you are not booting from this mdraid, consider using ZFS instead.14:15
ExmixBluesKaj: Yes? I think.14:15
jcottonlordcirth_: does LVM do that more intelligently?14:15
lordcirth_jcotton, probably. I haven't used LVM much in a long time, and never for raid.14:16
Gerowenlordcirth_: I am not booting from it, but I've already got it set up.  My biggest goal was just to have some redundancy since I've got two identical 12TB drives, just in case one failed.14:16
lordcirth_Gerowen, ZFS will also protect you against various kinds of partial failures, and allow snapshots.14:16
BluesKajExmix, NM if active overwrites the interfaces file after each boot14:16
leftyfbExmix: is this a server or desktop?14:16
leftyfbExmix: Also, is it an upgrade from a previous version or a fresh install of 18.04?14:17
Exmixleftyfb: Desktop and a fresh install. | BluesKaj: Is there a way I can check? I'm using the System settings module that just comes standard with Kubuntu14:18
Gerowenlordcirth_ I'll have to do some experimentation with ZFS in a virtual machine.  Like RAID on Linux, I have no experience with it.  Now that I've done RAID on my own, I'll stage some virtual drives and tinker with setting up LVM/ZFS in a VM so I can teach myself before I think about committing it to my live systems.14:19
leftyfbExmix: remove everything you put into /etc/network/interfaces. You're supposed to manage your network interface through the network settings in your desktop settings14:19
lordcirth_Gerowen, that is a good idea. Keep in mind that your performance will probably be lower in a VM, especially with ZFS.14:19
tomreyn!releasenotes | Exmix: see the 18.04 release notes about deprecation of ifupdown and general changes in network management.14:19
ubottuExmix: see the 18.04 release notes about deprecation of ifupdown and general changes in network management.: For release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases14:19
GerowenNothing scarier than potentially losing several terabytes worth of data because I screwed up one command that I didn't understand, :p14:19
tomreyn!chat | Gerowen14:20
ubottuGerowen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:20
Exmixleftyfb: The only thing in there is 'auto lo iface lo inet loopback'14:20
Exmixtomreyn: Thank i'll look at that and see if I can find anything14:20
leftyfbExmix: ok, now manage your network interfaces through the GUI14:21
ubottuIt's out! Announcement at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-April/000243.html - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/Dingo14:22
Exmixleftyfb: I have and still no results. There is only one Wired Connection setting, everythin is set to default, and yea14:24
leftyfbExmix: add another interface using the GUI?14:25
Exmixleftyfb: Did that was well, removed the old one and re-added it.14:26
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leftyfbExmix: please pastebin the output of: nmcli device show <your interface name>14:27
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lord4163What??? Apache is ignoring my virtualhosts after an upgrade?14:31
lordcirth_lord4163, what kind of upgrade? Apache update? Ubuntu do-release-upgrade?14:32
lord4163lordcirth_: Yes, just apache package upgrade14:33
tomreynif this is a support request, please tell us your ubuntu verison, apache httpd (i assume) version before and after the upgrade14:34
lord4163tomreyn: Apache/2.4.7 on Ubuntu 16.0414:34
leftyfbExmix: try nmcli connection up id eth014:34
leftyfbExmix: wait. eth0? What sort of machine is this? A VM?14:35
tomreynlord4163: i assume this is the veriso number your httpd server returns now. i mean the package version, though ("dpkg -l apache2"). and we'll need to see the version before the upgrade, too, which is listed in /var/log/apt/term.log.14:36
lord4163tomreyn: current 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.2214:37
Exmixleftyfb: No, it's a Kubuntu on a laptop, I have it set 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"' because i'm more use to eth0 and wlan0 etc. Also it returns with 'Error: unknown connection 'eth0'.'14:37
lord4163tomreyn: nothing of interest in term.log?14:38
leftyfbExmix: I would start with putting the interface names back and go from there.14:38
tomreynlord4163: how did you upgrade apache httpd?14:38
lord4163tomreyn: Well, I let it auto update.14:38
xibalbahow can i see the connections getting NAT'd / Masqueraded from iptables? "netstat-nat" doesn't show anything14:39
xibalbai'm using the following, https://puu.sh/DguA3/b2816c9644.png14:39
tomreynlord4163: the current version of the apache2 packages on ubuntu 16.04 is 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.10 https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/apache214:40
Exmixleftyfb: updating my grub and rebooting. Will post back in a few14:40
tomreynlord4163: other architectures have version 2.4.18-2ubuntu314:40
tomreynlord4163: none has 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.2214:40
tomreynlord4163: maybe you run ubuntu 14.04 really?14:41
tomreynlord4163: this command will tell:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)14:41
lord4163tomreyn: Excuse me, 14.0414:41
Exmixleftyfb: Well apparently that worked. I'll just have to get use to 'enp1s0' and such14:42
lordcirth_lord4163, you know 14.04 is EOL really soon, right?14:42
leftyfbExmix: there's probably some messing about you can do in systemd-networkd to get the old names to work, but honestly it just isn't worth it14:42
lord4163lordcirth_: Yes, I know14:43
Exmixleftyfb: No worries, I'll get use to it. Thanks for theh elp. I appreciate it.14:43
tomreynlord4163: please post the output of     zgrep apache2 /var/log/apt/history.log* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999914:43
lord4163tomreyn: https://termbin.com/a4e714:46
tomreynlord4163: according to this, your system carried out an update of the apache2 package from version 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.21 to 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.22 on your Ubuntu 14.04  i386 system.14:48
tomreynlord4163: indeed, this should not have had the result you discussed.14:48
tomreynlord4163: what makes you think that the apache web server is ignoring the configured virtualhosts?14:49
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lord4163tomreyn: It is serving the default page, my websites are not accessible any more14:50
tomreynlord4163: on an important side note: please be aware that Ubuntu 14.04 will loose support in a few days. you need to upgrade to a supported release (16.04 LTS or higher) until then.14:50
lord4163tomreyn: I will, but I want my websites up and running asap14:51
tomreynlord4163: see the web server log to determine the cause for the unexpected behaviour.14:51
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jcottonwhen is the next LTS?14:54
tatertotsand maybe think about having some "redundancy" if your website is critical14:54
lotuspsychjejcotton: 2020 april14:54
leftyfbjcotton: it's every 2 years from the last one.14:55
jcottonah ok14:55
tatertotsit's NOT critical if you do not plan on redundancy14:55
lotuspsychje!who | tatertots14:55
ubottutatertots: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)14:55
tatertotsthink cloud flair or something14:55
* jcotton wonders if his WSL would break upgrading from current LTS14:56
pragmaticenigma!wsl | jcotton14:56
ubottujcotton: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide14:56
jcottonyes i'm aware14:56
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: wsl?14:56
jcottonchannel redirection14:56
tomreynlord4163: if this doesn't help, you could post it online. also, you could discuss how you access the websites hosted on this server, which nameservers you use, whether you have (or had, before the update) static name resolution configured on your system (via /etc/hosts), which url's you are accessing to test the websites and which virtualhosts you have configured in apache httpd.14:57
leftyfblord4163: your logs should help you determine what's up14:58
imj0sephdid lightdm replace gdm in 19.04?14:58
tomreynlord4163: this command lists your configured virtualhosts:  apache2ctl -S14:58
tatertotslotuspsychje: that was @ the website that needs to be up ASAP guy...it's water under the bridge now and 1/2 out of scope and on the edge of off topic so i ain't gonna bother saying too much14:59
pragmaticenigmaimj0seph: At the moment, volunteers are still reading up on many of the changes in the final release. If there was a change, it would be listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes14:59
tatertotslotuspsychje: after all #apache and #networking have their own respective chat rooms on freenode ;)14:59
xamithanDoes the release come with Dingo Facts?15:00
leftyfbxamithan: no15:00
MonkeyDusttatertots: did you have an ubuntu support question?15:00
tatertotsMonkeyDust: yeah..my firefox won't open, can you fix it MonkeyDust ??15:00
Mia_tempHello channel15:01
MonkeyDusttatertots: in a terminal window, type firefox ... see if any error shows up15:01
Mia_tempI am trying to install ubuntu on a separate hd15:02
Mia_tempI already have windows 10 installed15:02
Mia_temphowever ubuntu does not see my windows 10 installation15:02
tatertotsMonkeyDust: where is the terminal window?15:02
MonkeyDusttatertots: the command prompt, ctrl-alt t15:03
lotuspsychjetatertots: please dont waste time of volunteers trolling like that15:03
leftyfbtatertots: trolling is offtopic. Feel free to troll in #ubuntu-ops15:03
leftyfbtatertots: you have apparently had that Firefox issue for over 2 weeks now and have yet to actively ask for help with it or provide any details. You are trolling. Stop.15:03
tomreynMia_temp: hi there.15:04
Mia_temphi there tomreyn15:04
Mia_tempright now I'm in ubuntu live usb15:04
Mia_temptrying to figure out what to do about the non-detected windows 10 installation15:05
leftyfbMia_temp: in what sense is it not detected?15:05
jcottondoes it have bitlocker on it?15:05
Mia_temp`'nstall alongs'de w'ndows 10` opt'on 's m'ss'ng15:05
jcottonor another full disk encryption15:05
Mia_tempinstall alongside windows 10 I mean15:05
OerHeksMia_temp, likely that win10 is installed on exfat? sudo fdisk -l # would tell15:06
isomariusing netplan, I have a 2nd ip assigned to an interface. How can I remove it's route for a different one? I can assign the route that I want but it's own route always appears first.15:06
jcottonwindows requires ntfs15:06
leftyfbMia_temp: this is what I would do. Remove/unplug your Windows drive completely. Install Ubuntu on the other drive. Plug your Windows drive back in, set your ubuntu drive to be primary boot, boot into Ubuntu and in a terminal run: sudo update-grub15:06
tomreynMia_temp: i can think of two situations where this could happen: (1) you have a UEFI firmware and are mixing UEFI and BIOS booting, (2) your windows installtion uses full disk encryption (bitlocker)15:06
jcotton"While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the15:06
jcottonupgrade was found." I know the mirror (mirrors.rit.edu) is up to date, so what's with that?15:06
OerHeksyou would need 2 tools, exfat-fuse and exfat-utils15:07
jcottontomreyn: for UEFI shouldn't it still find it even with bitlocker15:07
jcottonOerHeks: windows only installs to ntfs15:07
OerHeksjcotton, oh, i have seen many exfat issues15:07
tomreynjcotton: hmm yes you're probably right.15:07
Mia_templeftyfb: if windows is not seen, would it still work15:08
Mia_tempI mean when I pplug in my windows 10 drive, in bios I can see two things15:08
Mia_tempone is the hard drive and the other one is "windows boot loader" attached to the hard drive15:08
Mia_tempwhen I remove the hard drive both of them disappear15:08
leftyfbMia_temp: you only need GRUB to detect a Windows bootloader. I don't think bitlocker comes into play there at all. It should work fine.15:09
Mia_temphm so I'll do it all in uefi I believe, right?15:09
leftyfbMia_temp: yes, assuming that's how Windows 10 is installed.15:09
Mia_tempwhen I google these things, there are a lot of "warning"s everytwhere so not quite sure which path I should take15:09
Mia_tempis there any way to check how windows 10 is installed from here? (live usb)15:10
jcottonoh idk about live usb15:10
leftyfbMia_temp: I would just assume Windows is installed using EFI (if it's a machine you bought with Windows on it in the last few years) and follow my instructions above. It's the safest way to install dual boot with no possibility of affecting your Windows install.15:11
Mia_templeftyfb: Maybe I should go into windows and check if it's uefi or wfi15:12
Mia_tempif I install differently, would your method still work?15:12
Mia_tempI mean is this a vital part of this whole process?15:12
Mia_temphm, would it be possible to check if my windows installation is uefi or efi, from gparted?15:14
tomreynMia_temp: it is relevant, yes. to test how ubuntu booted (also works on the livecd), run this in a temrinal:   test -d /sys/firmware/efi && echo 'UEFI' || echo 'BIOS'15:15
Mia_tempI booted ubuntu as uefi, I know that15:15
jcottonhe wants to know about the windows install tho15:15
tomreynMia_temp: we don't normally do windows support here, so here's an exception: https://www.easyuefi.com/resource/check-windows-is-booted-in-uefi-mode.html15:15
Mia_tempI just don't know if my windows installation is uefi or not15:15
Mia_temptomreyn: thank you15:15
jcottonyou could check for efi\microsoft on the efi system partitoin15:15
Mia_tempI was looking for a way to check it here from ubuntu15:15
lord4163tomreyn: I can't find what's wrong.15:16
tomreynlord4163: me neither, since i have nothing to look at15:16
rander2hello all15:17
tomreynhi rander215:19
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Emcy"open in terminal" doesnt work for folders on the desktop15:26
Emcyi read that desktop icons had been hacked back in after gnome removed15:26
tomreynif this is a support request, please state the ubuntu release you're inquiring about.15:27
leftyfbEmcy: you are correct.15:27
Emcydisco dingo15:27
tomreynEmcy: hmm, works for me.15:30
tomreynoh i think i see what you mean. if you right-click the folder which displays on the desktop, the terminal window will open but not cd to the correct directory15:30
tomreyni had tried from nautilus, where it works15:31
tomreynleftyfb: are you aware of a bug report for this?15:31
leftyfbtomreyn: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/4615:32
leftyfbtomreyn: that is about gnome removing desktop icon functionality. Displaying icons on the desktop at this point (through extensions) is a hack15:33
jcottonwait why would they do that?15:34
tomreynleftyfb: are you aware of an ubuntu bug report for "open in terminal" not working as expected when right-clicking on a folder icon on the desktop?15:34
leftyfbtomreyn: negative. But again, I don't think that should work since the underlying code?/api? to utilize the feature on the desktop has been removed.15:34
leftyfbtomreyn: I can almost guarantee the Ubuntu/Gnome devs will mark is as won't fix since it's not supposed to work15:35
tomreynit could likely be re-engineered bya the extension.15:35
ioriahttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/721/gnome-shell-open-terminal/  can you try this Emcy ?15:36
tomreynioria: isnt this installed by default on 19.04 ?15:37
ioriatomreyn, idk ... is it ?15:37
tomreyni'm trying to find out. but i assumed it must be what provides this context menu option on 19.0415:38
tomreynEmcy: could you file a bug report? to do so, use:  ubuntu-bug gnome-shell15:42
Emcywhere to file15:43
tomreynEmcy: you just run this command in a terminal15:43
tomreynEmcy: you will need to have a launchpad / ubuntu sso account, but the process will guide you through setting one up.15:44
ioriatomreyn, should be this if i'am not mistaken; /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libterminal-nautilus.so15:45
tomreynEmcy: could you point us to the bug report once you're done filing it?15:45
tomreynthank you, ioria15:45
ioriatomreyn, on bionic ... not 19.0415:45
tomreynthis file, which belongs to the nautilus-extension-gnome-terminal package, also exists on ubuntu 19.0415:46
ioriaEmcy, have you tried the extension ?15:46
ioriatomreyn, so the issue it's just the Desktop not the functionality per se15:47
tomreynioria: could you join #ubuntu-discuss ?15:48
Emcyevery single username is taken and im not smashing my face into the keyboard to make an account so sorry15:51
Emcycanonical should have put a captcha on this sign up page15:51
qwebirc75864Is it possible to run the default ubuntu 18 system tray applet standalone, e.g. in awesomewm?15:52
qwebirc75864This guy -> https://imgur.com/uIGf7L915:52
tomreynEmcy: "iamemcy" is available15:52
Emcyi dont reuse nyms15:52
qwebirc75864It's pretty nice, but is it part of the normal DE? or can it be run like nm-applet etc.15:52
Emcyid rather you talk about the more serious bug of authentication password inputs seemingly not respect UK keyboard layout such that " and @ are transposed as in the US layout, i assume15:53
lunaqwebirc75864: that would be nice :p15:54
Emcyi observed this bug at login and when doing sudo in the term, but in other cases the keys are where they should be15:55
maeudOerHeks cryptodan MrElendig, I figured out what was causing my issue yesterday with the BIOS presenting the hard drive as sdb rather than sda16:03
maeudit was the option to enable the sd card, despite the slot being empty16:03
OerHekshi maeud16:03
maeuddisabling it, install works, enable it again, install fails16:03
maeudHi OerHeks16:03
maeudNo idea why it causes it, but that's the solution :)16:03
maeudDell Precision 5820 Tower sda missing hard drive showing as sdb16:05
maeudthat'll be enough keywords for this to be easily found on Google16:05
tomreynEmcy: i filed a bug report for what i was able to reproduce here - not sure htis is what you're seeing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/182539016:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825390 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) ""Open in Terminal" opens terminal in home directory" [Undecided,New]16:18
maarhartWhat is the most common solution to the tearing horizontal lines problem (e.g. when watching YouTube)?16:21
lotuspsychjemaarhart: is your graphics driver installed correctly?16:25
maarhartI have no idea. I guess ubuntu got installed correctly :)16:29
maeudHas anyone ran into issues with shim, mokutil and enabling secure boot? I'm getting "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" when enabling16:32
maeud7 results on Google, nothing to go on apart from an efi error16:32
ash_worksils -F shows -> for links... is there a way to force it to use the @ symbol?16:33
maeudwhat problem are you trying to solve ash_worksi?16:34
hawkHmm, is 19.04 properly released yet or not? It doesn't seem to be listed in https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release yet, which I guess is what decides if do-release-upgrade acknowledges its existance?16:36
ash_worksiI was using -l ... without -l `ls -F` does print at-signs16:36
ash_worksihowever, I was hoping to get `tree` to use the @ sign16:36
lotuspsychjehawk: 19.04 is released, but release upgrade might still take a while16:36
jairamclotuspsychje: I'm sure there's a good reason for that. Out of curiosity, why does it take a little longer for it to be available through the release upgrade route?16:37
lotuspsychjejairamc: not sure, thats at canonical devs to decide, volunteers cant do much16:38
pragmaticenigmaash_worksi: what are you trying to do exactly?16:39
hawklotuspsychje: Ok, thanks. I guess that makes it kind of both, but then I know it's sort of expected.16:40
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ash_worksipragmaticenigma: I just want to display tree using the definition for the -F option16:48
ash_worksiwhich says that files would be appended with a `@` for links, (like `ls -F`)16:48
ash_worksi`man tree`: Append a `/' for directories, a `=' for socket files, a `*' for executable files, a `>' for doors (Solaris) and a `|' for FIFO's, as per ls -F16:49
MrElendigash_worksi: are you trying to parse ls?16:50
ash_worksioh I guess I read that wrong16:50
MrElendigor just for interactive use?16:50
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pragmaticenigmaash_worksi: There is no way to override ls's output patterns without building the application do perform such functionality. If you are writting a program to parse output from "ls" you're doing it wrong. Use your programming languages built in file tree tools and file stat tools. Don't reinvent wheels.16:52
maeudif you literally need to simply check, use file ash_worksi16:54
imj0sephHey all. I have been told before that using trim on an SSD is not recommended if you plan to use LVM snapshots. Is it true that it causes problems? If so, why? Thanks.17:02
RonaldsMazitisI always wanted to ask how do I reload all USB ports17:04
RonaldsMazitison ubuntu17:04
wyseguygoogle top result17:05
wyseguynot hard17:05
lotuspsychje!google | wyseguy17:05
ubottuwyseguy: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:05
wyseguylotuspsychje, if they can connect to irc they can google "how to reload usb ports on ubuntu"17:06
wyseguyrocket science is another matter17:06
mouses'They can google it' is just another version of 'RTFM'.  It gives our community a bad name.17:06
mousesIf you're having support burnout, take a break17:06
tomreynmaeud: in case you're not already aware of it, a message of "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" probably means that the opposite of enrolling a system to (passphrase protected) secure boot failed for some reason (such as 'no passphrase was entered', or 'the passphrase did not match').17:07
maeudnot sure why it's happening tomreyn, I'm enabling using "sudo mokutil --enable-validation", entering "12345678" as a test password17:09
maeudnot much simpler I can make it17:09
imj0sephwyseguy: I've read this article, and it doesn't really answer my questions.17:09
maeudsbstate shows it's enabled but disabled in the shim17:09
wyseguyimj0seph, does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/795767/lvm-encrypted-luks-on-ssd-issue-reverting-to-snapshots17:11
wyseguyif not i must not have the google foo17:11
imj0sephwyseguy: it does. thank you.17:14
tomreynmaeud: so is 12345678 the passphrase that is set? i assume --emable-validation will try to disable secureboot using the passphrase provided, then initiate the setup with the key you provided., then enable shim validation.17:15
BlankspaceSError: [Errno 98] Address already in use17:16
tomreynbut that's really jst a guess, i don't know how it really works17:16
Blankspaceany solution?17:16
tomreyn!details | Blankspace17:16
ubottuBlankspace: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.17:16
Blankspacewhen i run python flask program17:16
Blankspaceit gives me this error: SError: [Errno 98] Address already in use17:17
Invader_Borkhi, i've been running 19.04 on my laptop for some time. now that it's officially released do i have to do anything else than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?17:17
wyseguyBlankspace, ps -fA | grep python17:18
wyseguywhat is the pid #?17:18
lotuspsychje!final | Invader_Bork17:18
ubottuInvader_Bork: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Disco and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 19.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.17:18
Invader_Borklotuspsychje, ty17:18
maeudI'll try doing it with secure boot disabled in the BIOS tomreyn17:18
wyseguyBlankspace, kill -yourpidnumber pid17:19
wyseguyBlankspace, flask run17:19
tomreynimj0seph: can you point to where you read that TRIM should not be sued with LVM snapshots?17:19
wyseguyBlankspace, https://medium.com/@sanzidkawsar/the-python-flask-problem-oserror-errno-98-address-already-in-use-flask-49daaccaef4f17:19
tomreynInvader_Bork: note the word "full" in the command ubottu provided - it makes a difference17:21
imj0sephtomreyn: I was looking through a shell script that would help users set up LUKS+LVM partitions in a live session (https://github.com/nbros652/LUKS-guided-manual-partitioning/blob/master/LGMP.sh line 178) and it recommends that if you plan to use LVM snapshots, do not enable trim.17:21
Invader_Borktomreyn, yes i have used the full-upgrade flag, ty17:22
VasilyZorinHello everyone, I've just installed 19.04 (migrated from 18.04), and I am having a sound problem.17:24
tomreynimj0seph: i assume the issue with TRIm and LVM snapshots is that it would unneccessarily increase the difference data17:24
tomreynimj0seph: so i guess it makes sense to recommend against it. i'm not aware of it breaking things, but i may have just missed such.17:24
Blankspacethanks wyseguy17:25
VasilyZorinIs there anybody willing to help me make sound work? I'd pay you :)17:25
wyseguynp brosif17:25
wyseguyVasilyZorin, need more info17:25
imj0sephtomreyn: fair enough. I've been debating whether to set up LUKS+LVM or just LUKS. I'm trying to find out what would better suit my needs. I've an NVMe SSD.17:26
VasilyZorinwyseguy: I have just installed TeamViewer17:26
tomreynimj0seph: if you were looking for recomendations, discussing your needs may be essential. ;-)17:27
wyseguyVasilyZorin, if you are gonna get into linux you need to learn. ill show you how to do things but you need to do them. Give these guys more info on your setup... laptop, desktop, model, distro version, exact issue. usb is hot off the press with 19.04 so ill be back17:28
OerHekswyseguy, he stated 19.04, so i guess it is standard gnome17:29
OerHeksoh, the ubottu factoid gives the alsa script too17:30
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:31
wyseguyVasilyZorin, I would go with a LTS, you will deal with issues when something gets released hours ago17:31
imj0sephtomreyn: ah yes, my bad. :) really, I could live without snapshots, but the apparent easy resizing that LVM offers would be useful if the Ubuntu root (usually 40gb in my case) partition reaches the limit. But then again, even with my current setup, I always have 10gb free there..17:31
imj0sephI'm unable to explain exactly my requirements. I might want to do backups through snapshots, but maybe another app could replace that need.17:32
imj0sephsorry, let me rephrase: I'm UNSURE how to explain exactly my requirements :)17:32
tomreynimj0seph: basically, i'd say that if you're qilling to trade a bit of complexity (which LVM2 adds) for partitioning flexibility (which LVM 2 provides), then you'll do well with LVM2. the ubuntu installer actually requires LVM2 if you will do dmcrypt-LUKS because it adds the LUKS layer below the LVM2 layer, enabling you to unlock multiple LVM2 logical volumes by just unlocking a single crypto layer.17:34
imj0sephtomreyn: in this case, would I be able to have a separate root, home, and swap before install? or would this be post-install?17:36
maeudsame thing when secure boot is disabled in BIOS, "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" tomreyn -_-17:36
tomreynimj0seph: in other words, if you will have multiple file systems on top of the crypto layer, you will want to use LVM2 in between, or you'll have to enter passphrases for each encrypted block device you're trying to mount a file system from.17:36
tomreynimj0seph: which is "this case"?17:38
tomreynmaeud: hmm, i haven't played with this at all, yet, so i shouldn't have responded in the first place, sorry.17:38
tomreynmaeud: is it actually a fatal error or just a notice / warning?17:39
tomreynthat is, if there is any way to tell, such as the exit code.17:39
maeudit doesn't give a distinction, just that message unfortunately, only reference I can find to it is the source code and someone here17:40
maeudfrom what I can find though it def not enabled though17:41
maeudI found a bug report about it not enabling with commands to test and it matches with when it's not enabled17:42
maeudfix released for that one, but no dice17:42
maeudif I run "mokutil --sb-state", I get "SecureBoot enabled <newline> SecureBoot validation is disabled in shim"17:44
maeudif I then run, "mokutil --enable-validation" and enter a password it's set to bring it up on next boot, so I reboot17:45
Kyrosanyone know how to change the color of the date/time widget thingie?17:46
maeudon boot, I get the mok management screen and the option to "Change Secure Boot state", it then asks me for the password17:46
maeudI now get the option to enable or disable secure boot, I select "Yes" and then it says "Failed to delete Secure Boot state"17:47
maeudso helpful17:47
imj0sephtomreyn: You mentioned that the ubuntu installed requires LVM2 if you do dm-crypt-LUKS. Is this the default "encrypt your device" selected with the "use LVM paritioning" options, or the "Something else" option, or both? Or am I completely misunderstanding you? I've never really been able to set up LVM+LUKS in the "Something else" menu17:49
Kyrosits bugging me that the clock is blue while the rest of the panel is white17:50
tomreynmaeud: hmm, to disable secureboot enrollment, i think the firmware should be prompting your passphrase really. that's strange if it doesn't do so.17:50
maeudmokutil asks for the passphrase tomreyn17:51
maeudI enter it, it gets accepted (I assume) then proceeds to give me the option17:51
tomreynimj0seph: i was referring to the "encrypt your device" option which automatically enables "use LVM paritioning".17:51
tomreynKyros: you should provide details such as your ubuntu version, desktop environment (if any).17:53
Kyrostomreyn: good point, its 19.04 with gnome and dash-to-panel installed17:53
Kyrosi wonder if its my theme17:54
imj0sephtomreyn: ah yes, I see. Is it possible to separate the / , /home, and /swap partitions using this option?17:54
Kyrosit is17:54
xmetalhmm I have an install of 19.04 nightly from a few weeks ago (always updating) and things are great (downloading the official 19.04 iso now) but for some reason even when "desktop icons" are disabled they still appear17:55
xmetal(the gnome extension "desktop icons" btw)17:55
Kyrosxmetal: i had to enable the desktop icons extension and turn them off in the config for it17:56
tomreynmaeud: i think what would be the best approach to take there is to first disable secureboot, then have mokutil enable it, as well as the validation.17:56
cryptodanhey xmetal17:56
xmetalah ha ... got it (looking in gnome-tweak-tool atm) ... the "show personal folder" and "show recycle bin" were checked17:58
Kyrosxmetal: exactly17:58
xmetali'd assume if the extension was "off" all icons would/should disappear17:58
Kyrosyeah and plus the whole section is removed in the new version17:58
Kyros18.10 had a section in tweaks just for that17:58
kappa1how can I create my own file system ?17:59
lordcirth_kappa1, what do you mean?17:59
tomreynxmetal: you may be able to disable this extension by uninstalling the gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons dpkg package (but this would also remove the ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop-minimal meta packages)18:00
kappa1lordcirth_, designing a new fs like ext4 or ntfs18:00
lordcirth_kappa1, well, that's not on topic here, but you could start here: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/health-checks/#bluefs-spillover18:01
lordcirth_Oops, wrong link18:01
OerHeksHow do i install ubuntu on Kappa1 fs ?18:10
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Kyrosanyone having issues with their keyboard in 19.04? It seems like I'm getting these random signals sent18:35
xmetali have had a pre-release on this partition for awhile and I have not noticed anything in a few weeks18:36
xmetal(@ KB issue)18:36
tomreynKyros: x18:37
tomreynoops sorry18:38
Kyroshexchat keeps going nuts like im hitting some kind of escape code18:38
hiyaAnyone here using AMD Radeon 520 graphics 2GB DDR5 with Laptop on Ubuntu? I read nothing but bad things about it. I am about ot buy a laptop vostro model that comes with it. Should it work just fine?18:38
tomreynKyros: does it happen with a fresh installer livecd, too?18:38
Kyrosdo you mean besides this fresh install i have now? just the livecd?18:38
tomreynKyros: yes18:39
Kyrosi havent tried18:39
cryptodanhope all is good xmetal18:39
Kyrosill check it out after i finish setting up my dev tools18:39
cacolocaI usually run an iptables rule to drop all input and output packages on my server running desktop-ubuntu 18.04, now i forgot to set it up after a restart, all my text has turned to braille. is it possible that leaving my computer without any iptable rules has allowed in hackers? all my text is braille now18:40
cacolocawhat to do?18:40
tomreynKyros: if it also happens there, try a different installer / livecd, too. if it also happens there it'll be a hardware issue (replace wire / conectors / keyboard)18:40
tomreynKyros: also testing in firmware config and grub menu can help for cross testing18:41
Kyrosits weird ive never had issues with this keyboard before18:41
tomreyncacoloca: can you still type standard characters ona temrinal?18:42
Kyrosit only happens very randomly and not very often18:43
analogicalHow do I disable Samba in Ubuntu?18:43
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OerHeksanalogical, on what ubuntu version?18:43
tomreynanalogical: depends on you rubuntu version18:43
tomreynthis will tell what you have:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)18:44
analogicalI use 19.0418:44
pragmaticenigmaanalogical: sudo systemctl disable smbd.service18:44
rolerI keep running do-release-upgrade -c for 19.04 and it is telling me no new release found... When do you guys think it'll be available for those who want to upgrade?18:45
pragmaticenigmaroler: The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.18:45
pragmaticenigmaroler: Unfortunately we are volunteers here, we don't have any knowledge to when Canonical will "flip the switch" to the servers that support the upgrade tools.18:46
rolerThanks guys... :)18:46
* tomreyn feels fortunate to be a volunteer18:46
rolerDo you think if I do do-release-upgrade -d, that I'll get the stable version now that it is out? I believe it'll put the same values in apt sources anyways18:47
pragmaticenigmaNo! don't do that roler18:47
rolerhaha. okay. :)18:47
pragmaticenigmaroler: The "-d" means developer channel. It will put you on the perpetual updates for all beta tests18:48
rolergot it.18:48
pragmaticenigmaroler: for more information you can look at the man page: man do-release-upgrade18:48
dcso how do i upgrade? running mostly stock 18.04 here...18:51
dcsoftware center shows nothing :)18:51
OerHeksdc, The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.18:52
landrewhi all. i would like to know how to do a live update of the os18:53
dcAlright, so hold tight and wait a few days?18:53
OerHeksdc yes, i have no exact date for now18:53
iorialandrew, what you mean ?18:53
dcdist-upgrade would do the trick if i wanted to be edgy OerHeks ?18:53
OerHekslandrew, just update or upgrade to a new release?18:53
xmetalyou could do that? ... i would have THOUGHT you say had to be on 18.10 to do the upgrade18:54
OerHeksdist-upgrade does not give a new release,18:54
OerHeks!info dist-upgrade18:54
ubottuPackage dist-upgrade does not exist in bionic18:54
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.18:54
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade18:54
landrewioria to os 19.418:54
iorialandrew, and you are on 18.10 atm or what  ?18:55
landrewioria i am on 19.4 beta18:56
pragmaticenigmadc: Note that 18.04 is an LTS release. If you installed that fresh using 18.04 release media, you will not see any prompts until the next LTS release is offered in April 2020. You can change your system to enter the regular release schedule, which would then bring your the biannual regular releases18:56
iorialandrew, just sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade then18:56
Caleb__hi, has anyone had a problem on ubuntu 19.04 with Alt-Tab not working?18:57
dcpragmaticenigma: yes i did install 18.04 fresh18:57
dcI would like to stay on top of things, so what do i need to do?18:58
Ben64upgrade after 20.04.1 comes out18:59
Caleb__ah n/m, it was mapped to super-tab18:59
dcI switched the updater to inform me of any new version and now it says 18.10 is available19:01
dcdo i have to do that first?19:01
dcso the upgrade path is 18.04 LTS > 18.10 > 19.04?19:01
pragmaticenigmadc: yes, you have to incrementally upgrade19:01
dcalright ic an live with that19:01
dcany gotchas going from 18.04 to .10?19:01
pragmaticenigmadc: 18.10 has been out for about 6 months, most issues have been triaged and I don't forsee you having any major issues. As with any upgrade, it is highly recommended that you back up your files.19:02
dcall my "data" is on connected drives so im not too concerned :)19:03
dchere goes...19:03
landrewioria thank you for the help.19:04
iorialandrew, ok19:04
dcit just warned me about some third party sources being disabled19:05
dcdoes it just comment them out?19:05
{xmb}can someone paste me the newest version of apt-cache search openjdk19:06
pragmaticenigmadc: I don't recall exactly what happens when that message is displayed19:07
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: What version of ubuntu?19:07
{xmb}im not sure, 16 or 1819:07
pragmaticenigma!info xenial openjdk19:07
ubottu'openjdk' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed19:07
Scytale89anybody having problems with gnome-weather getting proper weather data?19:07
doug16kalt-left and alt-right suddenly switch desktops. I can't use that key combination in remote control anymore!19:07
pragmaticenigma!info openjdk xenial19:07
ubottuPackage openjdk does not exist in xenial19:07
{xmb}hm none ?19:08
doug16kwhere do I turn off alt-left and alt-right being overridde. the number of keystrokes overridden in ubuntu is ridiculous imho19:08
Ben64!info openjdk-9-jre xenial19:08
ubottuopenjdk-9-jre (source: openjdk-9): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component universe, is optional. Version 9~b114-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 52 kB, installed size 166 kB19:08
{xmb}what about v1319:08
ioria{xmb}, about java you have to be sure about your ubuntu version19:09
{xmb}i have none, im coding on debian stuff that should also work on ubuntu19:09
pragmaticenigma!info openjdk-8 xenial19:09
ubottuPackage openjdk-8 does not exist in xenial19:09
ioria{xmb}, cat /etc/issue19:09
{xmb}its debian, no ubuntu access, thats why im here19:09
leftyfb{xmb}: you should be able to create an lxd container of Ubuntu for such development19:09
{xmb}i... see..19:09
{xmb}is there a ubuntubootstrap into chroot19:10
{xmb}like debootstrap19:10
{xmb}i havent heard much about lxd, no idea what that is, i know chroots tho19:10
ioria{xmb}, why not asking in #debian ?19:10
leftyfb{xmb}: lxd launch ubuntu:16.04 mytestcontainer19:10
leftyfb{xmb}: feel free to read up on it19:10
{xmb}cause i need to code for ubuntu and dont have one handy19:11
{xmb}k lxd19:11
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: While this is not the best channel for programming help. When developing an application, you should target the lowest common denominiator. In your case, I would target OpenJDK 819:11
{xmb}debian doesnt have lxd yes i dont see it on apt-cache19:12
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java19:12
ioria{xmb}, yes, 8 is the best for 16.04-18.0419:12
{xmb}u're great helpers btw, in contraverse of these debianers19:12
leftyfb{xmb}: try the snap19:12
leftyfb{xmb}: sudo snap install lxd19:13
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{xmb}this is.. who knows how old, thats why i dont run ubuntu, i have v13, hmm.. and on ubuntu its not even on base apt, ..i dont wanna insult, i just freelance19:15
leftyfb{xmb}: what is old? snapd? lxd? Your install of Debian?19:16
{xmb}v8 of openjdk vs v1319:16
{xmb}where is the snap[d] http url19:16
{xmb}but however, im interested in an ubuntu chroot, not so unknown software and containers19:16
{xmb}with debian i have deboostrap and similiars, type cmd, type tree, type destpoint, it installs, for in-chroot19:17
{xmb}is there a this piece for ubuntu ?19:17
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: I have not heard or seen anything about Java 13 yet... what are you referencing for version numbers?19:18
leftyfb{xmb}: sudo apt install snapd19:18
leftyfb{xmb}: the container would be easier and cleaner to setup19:18
{xmb}i see, snapd is on debian, sec about versions19:18
leftyfb{xmb}: and quicker19:18
{xmb}how to access it19:18
ioria !info openjdk-13-jdk  disco19:18
ubottuopenjdk-13-jdk (source: openjdk-13): OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK). In component universe, is optional. Version 13~13-0ubunt1 (disco), package size 1577 kB, installed size 1646 kB19:18
{xmb}yeah this one v1319:18
leftyfb{xmb}: sudo snap install lxd && lxd launch ubuntu:16.04 myxenialcontainer && lxc exec myxenialcontainer "/bin/bash"   # then you can setup ssh if you like19:19
ioria{xmb}, you need 19.04 then19:19
{xmb}i see, k19:19
CookieMthere are two flavours of openjdk for bionic: 8 and 11. According to Oracle “Java SE 12.0.1 is the latest release”19:20
{xmb}i ask the dudes what version they have, somewhen they will reply :)19:20
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: According to OpenJDK publications, 13 isn't released until 2019-09-17... just a heads up there.19:20
ioria{xmb},  stay away from 1119:20
{xmb}interesting information .. coding related19:20
{xmb}thank you folks yet, big help you were, fast and kind, ++ !19:23
doug16kI think an update overwrote my keyboard configuration for alt-left and alt-right? I use those all day every day and now they suddenly switch desktops19:25
doug16ks back in my IDE, and word left/right on some mac programs. that's how I know I use it all the time and it suddenly changed19:26
doug16k(mac when remote controlling)19:26
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: You may have to re-setup your keyboard shortcuts, and deactivate the ALT + LEFT/RIGHT entries19:26
Maria23Http://www.isbuu.com  come pls sweet  w w w isbuu c o m19:28
OerHeksMaria23, please don't spam, thanks19:29
xmetali am guessing that maybe a bot like Spotchat has been seeing ... typically <femaleName><twodigits> ... they are autofiltered on Spotchat but i am guessing it's spam like that they are trying to post19:31
doug16kI looked through the Settings/Devices/Keyboard list many times. it isn't there. it's actually worse than I described. when I press alt the OS behaves as though I pressed ctrl-alt. alt f4 switches to another virtual terminal!19:31
xmetal(@ Maria23)19:31
lordcirth_doug16k, have you confirmed that your Ctrl key isn't stuck? :P19:39
doug16kpressing p and r and e and s and i and g and the other letters in this sentence worked, right? :)19:40
doug16k\this is the machine where the issue occurs btw19:40
doug16kI thought possibly physical issue with left alt. right alt same19:40
doug16ktried laptops builtin keyboard. same19:41
doug16kbeen running ubuntu on this for years19:41
Kyrosin 19.04 does any know how to change the alt+tab behavior to only show the icon and not a preview window?19:42
Kyrosi cant find it19:42
isrHi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem I'm having involving installing a theme called Flat-remix onto my ubuntu 18.04 LTS install. I've put the themes folder in to /home/.themes, but in gnome-tweak-tools, under themes section, in applications dropdown, no variation of any of the flat-remix themes show up. But they do show up and seem to work properly for shell and icons. Any idea what the deal is?19:43
doug16kalt+right and alt+left (arrow keys) don't switch desktop for you right?19:43
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: what version of Ubuntu are you running?19:45
Kyrosman this new version seems so hard to configure like i want19:46
ioriaisr, git clone https://github.com/daniruiz/flat-remix-gtk19:46
isrI already have that folder/files19:47
isrPlus I don't have git installed on my system yet lol.19:47
ioriaisr, theme is a different repo : https://www.osradar.com/install-flat-remix-theme-ubuntu/19:48
saber1isr: have you tried to use apt-get? https://github.com/daniruiz/flat-remix-gtk#ubuntu-based-distributions19:51
saber1isr: this was how I installed it19:52
sazawalHello all. I am currently using Ubuntu 16.04 with /home on a separate partition. I want to do a fresh installation of Ubuntu 19.04 over the old Ubuntu, but I do not want a new /home. I want my old /home to be taken over by the new Ubuntu 19.04 installation. I also don't want to format /home partition. How do I achieve that?19:52
isrAh. Ok. I didn't realize that it wasn't a master. Gotcha. Thank you for your help ioria. I grabbed all 3 packages using synaptic.19:52
isrMy chrome theme is still hideous for some reason though, it's not changing look like the rest of my windows are. o_O19:53
lordcirth_sazawal, in the installer, you choose manual partitioning, and you select your /home partition to be used as /home, and not to format. You select your / as /, but yes to format.19:53
lordcirth_As always, have backups, etc...19:54
sazawallordcirth_, Well, this was easy. Are you sure this won't delete my files in the /home partition?19:54
sazawallordcirth_, You mean a backup of /home partition?19:55
lordcirth_sazawal, it will not reformat, but it will overwrite any files that 19.04 comes with.19:55
isrOh, chrome does not get edited by themes in ubuntu? That's weird. It looks like I have to get a theme from the chrome web store... eww.19:56
OerHeksisr, there is an option in chrome for themes19:56
isrOh, use gtk+ changed it19:56
isrOh man. Awesome :D19:56
sazawallordcirth_, The overwriting must be for the config and settings files right? Not for personal files in ~/Downloads and ~/Documents right?19:56
AnjorHey folks, I was just wondering if there have been common complaints about upgrades going sour today?  I'm on the fence about upgrading this early.19:56
lordcirth_sazawal, correct. But always have backups.19:56
OerHeksAnjor, The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.19:57
sazawallordcirth_, Yes. Thanks :)19:57
AnjorOerHeks: 19.04 is avaialble via Software Updater.20:02
AnjorAccording to this post via reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/beppnu/ubuntu_1904_now_available_via_software_updater/20:04
OerHeksAnjor, so, did you try?20:08
allureHey guys... I changed the config in nvidia xserver config thingy and now my mouse is super slow. Changing configs in the control panel also does nothing. What can be the cause?20:13
analogicalI need Python for Youtube-dl how do I install it?20:19
MonkeyDust!find youtube-dl20:20
ubottuFound: youtube-dl, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 377 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=youtube-dl&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all20:20
MonkeyDustanalogical: as you can see, youtube-dl sits in the repos, try sudo apt install youtube-dl20:20
analogicalthat version is old20:21
Kyrosi dont really recommend using the repo version for youtube-dk20:21
Kyrosget it off github or whatever, its easy to put in ~/bin or something and add it to your path20:21
OerHekssnap install youtube-dl (version) https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl20:21
RonaldsMazitisI have new toy - AKAI MPD 21820:23
RonaldsMazitisany software that would work with it?20:23
RonaldsMazitisthere website shows 404 on any download page20:23
OerHeks!info lmms20:24
ubottulmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3-7 (bionic), package size 4641 kB, installed size 11777 kB20:24
OerHeksthat works with my akai MPK-mini20:24
OerHekscheck out ubuntu studio metapackages https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntustudio-audio20:25
OerHeksor the whole list https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/ubuntustudio-meta20:25
OerHeksplug & play & play20:26
ubottuUbuntu Studio is an official flavor of Ubuntu for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their creativity workstation. It contains packages for artists of all kinds, including Audio, Music, Video, Photography, Graphic Design, and Publishing. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org20:28
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-installer | also...20:28
ubottualso...: Ubuntu Studio Installer is an app that can be used to add Ubuntu Studio's benefits to an existing Ubuntu (or official flavor) installation, or add additional packages. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioInstaller20:28
OerHeksyou really want a fresh ubuntu studio, with all the tricks and latency kernel stuff20:29
EickmeyerOerHeks: Ubuntu Studio Installer does that to any flavor.20:29
OerHeksEickmeyer, oh oke, so PA and low latency ?20:30
EickmeyerOerHeks: All in the options.20:30
OerHeksnice :-D20:30
{xmb}thank you competent ubuntu folks, till later, byyee20:30
jcb2016hello i need help getting the drivers for my video card. i have a 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8240 / R3 Series] [1002:9838]20:42
jcb2016 any ideas?20:42
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Is there trouble with what you have working out of the box?20:43
OerHeksi think that Radeon HD 8240 works with the open radeon driver?20:44
jcb2016Eickmeyer, yea i don't think im at full resolution20:44
Eickmeyer!amd | jcb201620:44
ubottujcb2016: Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD20:44
jcb2016Eickmeyer, which do i use out of all those options?20:44
Eickmeyerjcb2016: The open source drivers are included. I have an AMD graphics card and it works perfectly with the open source drivers.20:44
jcb2016how do i know if im at full resolution or not currently Eickmeyer ?20:45
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Without knowing the native resolution of your monitor, that's impossible to know.20:45
OerHekssudo lshw -C display # would tell20:46
Eickmeyerjcb2016: ^ what OerHeks said20:46
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Eickmeyerjcb2016: It doesn't look like you used sudo.20:49
jcb2016let me use sudo20:49
OerHeksR3 series are not coverd by the open amdgpu and closed amd-gpu pro , so if you experience screen resolution issues, try to reset the monitor with its own buttons to fabric defaults20:50
tewardOerHeks: factory defaults*20:50
allurehey guys.. I cant seem to reset my configs for the mouse, which is TERRIBLY slow now. I tried on the control panel, using dconf-editor, using gsettings, using xinput.... what is wrong?20:51
Eickmeyerjcb2016: So, it's the R3 series, which doesn't work with the amdgpu or amdgpu-pro drivers, which means using the open source radeon drivers.20:51
Eickmeyerjcb2016: That's built into the kernel, so there's nothing to install20:51
jcb2016Eickmeyer, it feels like im not getting the full reoslution. i don't know though20:52
Ben64change the resolution?20:52
jcb2016maybe im at the full reoslution20:52
Eickmeyerjcb2016: As OerHeks said, you might need to reset the monitor with its buttons to factory defaults.20:52
EickmeyerAnd, you very well could be at full resolution.20:53
bz-hi, i just installed a copy of ubuntu 19.04, and changed my display settings to 200% (have a huge resolution) -- when i do so, my desktop background vanishes, and a white screen is shown instead. cannot change it. any ideas?20:55
jcb2016brb Eickmeyer got to wash the dishes lol20:57
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Okay.20:57
sohkae2WahAnyone a crontab wizard? I'm trying to get ifconfig to run from crontab but it doesn't want to work. "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted"21:03
xamithanAre you not running the cron as root?21:07
sohkae2WahThe cron file is in /etc/cron.daily, so it should be running with root already, which is why I'm perplexed21:07
xamithanifconfig is deprecated too you know,  you should be using iproute21:07
sohkae2Wahohhh maybe that's a better route.21:07
sohkae2WahWould it still let me take down my interface and put it back up before and after using macchanger?21:08
sohkae2Wahlooks like I'd use "ip link set [interfacename] up"21:09
sohkae2Wahinstead of ipconfig's "ipconfig [interfacename] up"21:09
xamithanIsn't it ip link set dev [iface] up ?21:09
sohkae2WahTesting now, I guess I'll know shortly lol21:11
sohkae2Wahthe wiki page I'm on is unclear21:11
sohkae2Wahwell it returned "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted"21:11
sohkae2Wahlet me try it your way21:11
allureI am battling with my mouse settings :-(21:11
allureever since I changed to 144hz on nvidia-settings, my mouse is horribly slow and I cant seem to fix it21:12
antoninohi all21:12
allureI tried xinit, gsettings, dconf, xset, etc and nothing works21:12
sohkae2Wahsame error actually @xamithan21:13
jcb2016Eickmeyer, how do i reset with the keys of my laptop to see if i hvae the correct reolsution?21:13
xamithanThere was also something I saw about cron having different path sohkae2Wah,  You might have to use /sbin/ifconfig or whereever the program is21:13
sohkae2Wah:( thats what I just tried before actually. /sbin/ifconfig exactly21:14
sohkae2WahI might just give up21:14
sohkae2Wahbut I want to solve it for the knowledge21:14
jcb2016Eickmeyer, everything is so big in ubuntu icons everything thats how i know the resolutinon isn't all the way21:14
xamithanMaybe try ##linux,  they got some smart peeps21:15
RonaldsMazitisanyone knows how to assing samples to drum pads and record them in same time?21:15
xamithanSince I don't think its ubuntu specific21:15
RonaldsMazitisusing LMMS21:15
jcb2016OerHeks, you around still also?21:15
sohkae2Wahokay good idea, thanks for helping comrade21:15
RonaldsMazitischannel seems to give option between 0 -16 but once I assing to anything it stops playing sounds21:16
OerHeksjcb2016, maybe gnome-tweak-tool is your help, it does not scale the whole desktop,  but can do just fonts21:18
OerHeks!info gnome-tweak-tool21:19
ubottugnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB21:19
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jcb2016OerHeks, i really want to install mate-desktop will this affect anything as far as resolution21:23
OerHeksjcb2016, i think you will see the same resolution21:27
OerHeksbut there is no tweak tool AFAIK21:27
atheodohi, I need to replace my hdd with an ssd on one of my ubuntu boxes21:28
atheodocan i used disks to 'mirror' the hdd,21:29
atheodothen remove the hdd and start from ssd?21:29
atheodoor do I need to do a complete fresh install with the ssd connected?21:29
OerHeksatheodo, sure, but then you would need a live iso to fix grub, as there might be different UUID's21:29
jeremy31atheodo: It might be easier to get clonezilla ISO and clone the HDD to SDD21:29
JayskiluvHi everyone :) Trying to upgrade from 18.10 -> 19.04. I get message: Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading. - Can't seem to find a solution for that for 19.04. Anyone run into this, and are willing to share how they got past this?21:30
OerHeks* those are unique21:30
atheodocan i do an apt-install clonezilla21:30
atheodoor I have to download the package and install manually21:30
OerHeksJayskiluv, run apt get dist-upgrade, to get all updates21:30
jcb2016OerHeks, xrandar shows    1366x768      60.00*+  40.00  so im assuming im using the best driver and at the highest resolution21:31
Jayskiluv@OerHeks, already did that. I get this...21:31
JayskiluvThe following packages have been kept back:21:31
Jayskiluv  libboost-chrono-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-random-dev21:31
Jayskiluv  libboost-system-dev21:31
Jayskiluv0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.21:31
OerHeksjcb2016, check this resolution with the monitor vendor21:31
JayskiluvSo - when I autoremove them, the software updater pops up immediately after, and offers to install them ;)21:31
OerHeks...and 4 not upgraded.21:31
OerHeksdist-upgrade would fix this21:32
JayskiluvActually, that is the output from the dist-upgrade command21:32
OerHeksoke, hit y21:32
jeremy31atheodo: I think you need the clonezilla bootable ISO or install clonezilla to an Ubuntu ISO for cloning21:32
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atheodoi see21:35
atheodook will read up some wiki s21:35
atheodothe ssd is getting here tomorrow,21:35
atheodoso I will give it a spin :-)21:36
jeremy31atheodo: clonezilla ISO can clone about anything21:36
jeremy31atheodo: as long as the partitions on the HDD will fit on the SSD21:36
JayskiluvHmmm. Ok. Solved it.21:41
JayskiluvSo, one of the packages listed before, I had to manually apt-get install that. Then I got another error saying that package depended on another package, which also wouldn't be installed. So I had to manually apt-get install that. Then do a dist-upgrade. Then the upgrader would progress.21:43
jcb2016OerHeks, Internal: 15.6 in diagonal HD* SVA anti-glare flat LED-backlit (1366 x 768) per HP website21:43
Eickmeyerjcb2016: That means you're definitely at max resolution.21:44
jcb2016Eickmeyer, ok so its this laptop that is diffrent. im normally on laptops that the resolutionl is like high defenition21:44
Eickmeyerjcb2016: I'd lower your font scaling to ~0.90-0.95.21:44
jcb2016Eickmeyer, how do i do that?21:45
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Running Ubuntu or Ubuntu MATE?21:45
jcb2016Eickmeyer, im running ubuntu21:45
Eickmeyerjcb2016: 18.04, 18.10, or 19.04?21:45
jcb201618.04.2 LTS21:46
Eickmeyer!info gnome-tweaks bionic21:46
ubottugnome-tweaks (source: gnome-tweaks): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 212 kB, installed size 1216 kB21:46
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Install gnome-tweaks (sudo apt install gnome-tweaks), and then it should be on the font tab in that app.21:46
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Just bear in mind that's personal preference for me at that resolution on a ~15" monitor.21:47
jcb2016got it21:48
{xmb}does ubuntu have intel-microcode package21:48
jcb2016Eickmeyer, so go to gnome-tweak-tool go to font then go to scaling factor 0.95?21:48
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Yes.21:48
Eickmeyer!info intel-microcode21:48
ubottuintel-microcode (source: intel-microcode): Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs. In component main, is extra. Version 3.20180807a.0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 1381 kB, installed size 1825 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; x32)21:48
jcb2016Eickmeyer, ok looks better21:48
Eickmeyer{xmb}: ^21:48
jeremy31{xmb}: it has the intel-microcode the last I checked21:48
{xmb}thank you much21:48
{xmb}very kind fast ubuntu ppl21:49
jcb2016thanks Eickmeyer and OerHeks. time to install mate now. Eickmeyer is it hard to print to a shared network printer in ubuntu? the printer is on a windows network21:49
Eickmeyerjcb2016: Glad to hear it. You can also scale down the dock bar on the left using the main settings.21:49
jcb2016Eickmeyer, ill be using mate should be better21:49
Eickmeyerjcb2016: It's not too difficult, but there are guides on that. I hate to say "do a google search", but that's how I figure it out when I need to. :)21:50
{xmb}!info xtightvncviewer21:50
ubottuxtightvncviewer (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.10-0ubuntu4 (bionic), package size 55 kB, installed size 154 kB21:50
pragmaticenigma{xmb}: Since you are in the process of building an application, which really isn't a support related topic. I'd like to encourage you to check out the Ubuntu Application developer channel. It may prove to be more useful for you. You can join them in #ubuntu-app-devel21:50
jcb2016ok thanks21:50
{xmb}ill try to remember it, thank you21:50
MikeRLDone an upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04. Does upgrading cause problems like it used to?21:52
MikeRLAs in slow downs and general headaches?21:53
OerHeksMikeRL, likely not21:53
xamithanI've never had slow downs on upgrades.  Are you having an issue?21:53
MikeRLNo but years back I did.21:54
xamithanWell the upgrade to systemd was pretty iffy,  but other than that..21:54
pragmaticenigmaMikeRL: Sometimes after an upgrade there are a few clean up processes to rebuild apt caches and other system service caches. That would be momentary at worst21:54
MikeRLSuch as? What cleanup?21:55
MikeRLxamithan, How can you tell the systemd upgrade was iffy? Anything acting up?21:55
{xmb}byyee till soon21:56
OerHeksjust get used to systemd, that is all21:56
pragmaticenigmaMikeRL: I'm unaware of specifics, I only know that it is one possibility21:56
xamithanWhen you got all your custom stuff in upstart,  yeah a systemd upgrade is iffy21:56
MikeRLWell I don't really have any customizations there...21:57
OerHeksxamithan, so that is custom stuff\, standard would be no issue21:57
Eickmeyerxamithan: That happened 15.04-15.10, right?21:57
OerHeksanyone with custom scripts and 3rd party stuff should examine their system21:57
ubottuFor release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases21:59
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BlackDalekmy friend's laptop is having a problem with broken packages. Unmet dependencies: python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat : Conflicts: packagekit Conflicts: packagekit:i386 How do I resolve this conflict?22:13
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pragmaticenigmaBlackDalek: Start with removing any 3rd party PPAs from the system. Conflicts are often because of extra PPAs attempting to overide Ubuntu libraries22:14
asdfghi do not remember the software that create bootable usb to install a fresh ubuntu installation22:15
oil_boiSo I have a samsung 860 evo on ubuntu 19.04, do I need to trim or enable any optimizations?22:15
asdfghwhat is the software?22:15
SrPxHi, what is the most efficient virtual machine to install windows inside Ubuntu (for gaming)? I've asked this before but I don't remember. It must be able to access the GPU, of course.22:16
pragmaticenigmaasdfgh: etcher.io is the currently recommended ISO imaging software22:16
jeremy31oil_boi: I have the same model and I am going to see how long it lasts without any optimization22:17
pragmaticenigmaSrPx: For software recommendations, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic22:17
asdfghpragmaticenigma, thank you!22:18
OerHeksasdfgh, usb creator / etcher22:18
BlackDalekHow do I resolve package conflicts?22:19
OerHeksBlackDalek,  i am sure the error gives "apt install -f"  as solution?22:19
pragmaticenigmaBlackDalek: Have you removed all non Ubuntu PPAs?22:19
SrPxpragmaticenigma: okay22:20
Bashing-omoil_boi: Think it is still recommended to reserve some space for overprovisioning; : the reserved space where the controller does its work. My guide for optimising was: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd .22:23
jhutchinsBashing-om: 40422:29
Bashing-omjhutchins: checking :(22:30
evdubshi - i just upgraded to ubuntu 19.04 and i had a postgresql-10 installation. it looks like the upgrade process marked postgresql 10 as no longer supported and removed the database data during the "upgrade" - anyone else happen to experience this?22:31
pragmaticenigmaevdubs: This is why you are encouraged to back-up your data when performing an upgrade. It is stated in all the documentation as there are no guarantees your data will not be harmed during upgrades22:32
JimBuntuevdubs, yeah, restore from backups, shouldn't be that big of a deal. Bound to happen when moving into 9 month support versions.22:36
tomreynevdubs: do you have the "postgresql" package installed? it should have enabled an upgrade path, i assume.22:37
evdubstomreyn, i do have that package installed. during the 19.04 upgrade, i was warned that the database would need to be upgraded, but i assumed the old database files would be left in tact to do the database upgrade after the OS upgrade22:39
evdubsguess i misread that22:39
tomreynhmm, i can't comment, i haven't gone thorugh this upgrade myself.22:41
raveris there a repository for 19.04 for kxstudio yet?22:41
raverhttps://kx.studio/Repositories they seem outdated...22:41
Bashing-omjhutchins: OerHeks:: oil_boi:: Replaced my source for SSD optimization ^^ .22:42
JimBuntuevdubs, you may be able to get more direct and personally experienced support in #ubuntu+1, but... they may also say you have to come here... but hopefully anyone with the same issue will then come here to give details/suggestions for next time22:42
pragmaticenigmaraver: Perhaps you should look at their home page: https://kx.studio/index.php22:42
pragmaticenigmaraver: Also, that is not maintained by Canonical or the Ubuntu community, it is off topic here.22:42
raveryea sorry and thanks for the info didn't knew it was suspended22:43
raverupgrade did run great by the way :)22:43
OerHeksraver, contact the ppa maintainer?22:48
daxJimBuntu: #ubuntu+1 is currently for sustained silent reading and other quiet activities until 19.10 becomes a thing. they don't do 19.04 support in there22:51
daxwe used to +m the channel but people were sad so we don't22:52
OerHeksi think it is a good idea to leave it over the weekend, lots of people want 19.04 ofcourse22:55
ChunkzZ19.04 is broken asf.22:56
ChunkzZI done the minimal install from the mini.iso and couldn't load anything, something about a helper error. no thunar, terminal etc.22:56
ChunkzZdoes anyone check the mini iso's?22:56
OerHeksno terminal, that is odd..22:57
migmolrodthe miniQA department? dunno22:57
ChunkzZOerHeks, yeah everytime I clicked it an error happened.22:57
ChunkzZthought it was the install so I installed it again and it was the same. minimal from the mini iso and xubuntu minimal.22:58
ChunkzZoff to try lxqt anyway. *waves*22:58
stevendaleDon't bother ChunkzZ23:01
stevendaleLubuntu 18.10 / LXQt is horrible23:01
Bashing-omChunkzZ: All good per: https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/ .23:05
MeadI have lubuntu on a syste,  tried go from 18.04 to 18.10.... I could go back quick enough. Whomever is making decisions for Lubuntu to change the direction of the distro are going to drive it into the ground.23:11
stevendaleIt's my aunty's birthday today23:11
OerHeksstevendale, go to #ubuntu-offtopic, as you  seem to have no support question23:12
coelhoola pessoal boa noite23:13
Meadhabla english poor favor23:13
zealsham_i have a file in folder and i want to move that file to a parent folder, how do i do that23:22
Meadcp filename /newlocation/filename23:23
EriC^^zealsham_: mv filename ../23:25
zealsham_thanks eric23:26
EriC^^you're welcome23:26
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BlackDalekI have no third party PPAs. I am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d8WrKSVJ6m/ from apt-get upgrade and http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCD38d5FQ/ from apt upgrade23:40
migmolrodsecond link seems broken23:41
EriC^^BlackDalek: try with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?23:42
Bashing-omBlackDalek: The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. <- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCD38d5FQ/ .23:42
BlackDaleksorry.. sorry.. 2nd link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqCD38d5FQ/23:42
OerHeksBlackDalek, run full-upgrade or dist-upgrade .. 782 not to upgrade.23:43
OerHeksthat seems a long long time no update23:43
BlackDalekThis is not my laptop. The owner probably hasn't updated it for years.23:44
stevendaleBlackDalek You might be better off doing a clean install23:44
stevendaleThat upgrade can only cause problems23:44
Bashing-omBlackDalek: Where does python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat come from ? show ' apt policy python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat ' .23:44
migmolrodin an 'askubuntu' post they suggest to "sudo apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade" but it's a slightly different case i think (only a few packages and after adding a ppa)23:45
Bashing-om!info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat bionic23:45
ubottuPackage python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat does not exist in bionic23:45
BlackDalekthis laptop has 16.04 LT installed23:45
Bashing-om!info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat xenial23:46
ubottupython3-aptdaemon.pkcompat (source: aptdaemon): PackageKit compatibilty for AptDaemon. In component main, is extra. Version 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu14 (xenial), package size 22 kB, installed size 181 kB23:46
OerHeksthat error can be fixed with dist-upgreade, i guess.23:46
ChunkzZhow can I get rid of "device not manager" under nm-applet????23:48
EriC^^BlackDalek: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"23:49
OerHeksChunkzZ, we need more info, what device?23:51
BlackDalekEriC^^, https://termbin.com/xyse23:51
OerHeksif it is wireless, then there might be a driver/firmware missing..23:51
ChunkzZmy desktop OerHeks23:51
EriC^^BlackDalek: the bionic(18.04) sources are there instead of xenial, type "lsb_release -ds" to confirm it's 16.0423:52
ChunkzZhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed I done this + I've tried to edit interfaces but it says ifupdown is disabled because of netplan?23:52
ChunkzZ19.04 too.23:53
ChunkzZOerHeks, ^23:53
OerHeks.. please Chunkz, keep this channel family friendly.23:54
OerHeksi feen no need helping, goodluck23:54
ChunkzZwhat have I done?23:54
ChunkzZugh, what did I do?23:54
migmolrodthat "what the fryingpan" abbreviation? it's the only thing i see23:55
ChunkzZyeah like wth23:55
BlackDalekEriC^^, maybe the owner tried to do an upgrade to bionic and it failed?23:56
jcottonare we not actually allowed to drop the F bomb in here?23:56
jcottonI don't mind either way, just wondering23:56
EriC^^BlackDalek: yeah, that's my guess too23:56
ChunkzZEriC^^, any ideas?23:56
EriC^^BlackDalek: probably best to backup and clean install at this point23:56
EriC^^ChunkzZ: nope, sorry23:57
daxjcotton: correct, including abbreviations of such23:58
daxfamily friendly, and all that23:58
ChunkzZdude, even young 3 year olds swear lol23:59

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