[00:15] <elite> I want to make a wallpaper out of an image here: https://linux.pictures/wallpaper . Can someone help me how to do this? "No such file or directory".
[00:22] <Amishparadis> hello?
[00:22] <Amishparadis> anyone there?
[00:23] <Amishparadis> can anyone hear *see* me?
[00:23] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | Amishparadis
[00:23] <Amishparadis> are you a bot?
[00:24] <kk4ewt> elite did you save the image and the bashscript and read the page?
[00:24] <Amishparadis> i am a noob. bye!
[00:28] <snadge> is it possible to update to unicode 11.0 on ubuntu 16.04?
[00:29] <snadge> i've tried googling and stuff.. i don't really know what would be involved.. obviously updating ubuntu would fix it.. but maybe there's a quick fix
[00:30] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: The only supported way to get the updated characters is to upgrade the operating system
[00:30] <snadge> how about an unsupported way? ;)
[00:30] <snadge> if its just one or two packages that i could get from a ppa.. or by backporting
[00:31] <snadge> ie.. something i could potentially reverse if it all goes wrong
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: Unicode characters require an entire subsystem to be upgraded that would make your computer unstable.
[00:31] <snadge> is it just pango? .. or does it touch other parts as well
[00:33] <snadge> ahh it looks ike glibc too
[00:34] <snadge> thats pretty much game over
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: Fonts are integrated deep with in the system. they are more than just a way to display text in different formats. They are, in themselves, programs. The kernel and other applications use these font file programs to display the desired text. They are compiled to work together. upgrading to the next version of unicode requires an expansion of the supported character set.
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: That is why you're not seeing a straightforward way to upgrade to Unicode 11... it's because supporting such an endever is requires rebuilding the entire OS. That's why the supported method is to upgarde to the latest version of Ubuntu. Either 18.04 LTS release or 18.10 regular release.
[00:42] <snadge> that is a shame.. i would love to use 18.04 LTS on my work pc, but its unfortunately not on the approved OS list within the company
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: After nearly two decades in the IT industry, I've learned one valuable thing. Bells and whistles aren't going to impress the boss if you can't get your work done. I use my work computer for work only. And buy my own computers for experimentation.
[00:45] <snadge> oh absolutely.. i've made my choice and im comitted to it now.. ubuntu 16.04 was on that list, so I went with it
[00:46] <snadge> and its supported until april 2021
[01:17] <Emcy> anywhere to get 19.04 right now
[01:17] <Emcy> since its officially out in a few hours
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Emcy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ I do expect.
[01:35] <snadge> i just went there and went into the 19.04 folder and was disappointed .. do we expect the release to be any different to the current live build?
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: Discussion about the next version can be found in #ubuntu+1
[02:04] <k_sze[work]> Does GNOME have a setting so that newly spawned windows and dialogs don't automatically steal focus?
[02:15] <MrPocketz> yo
[02:16] <panorain> Hi
[02:16] <MrPocketz> So I just upgraded to 18.01
[02:16] <MrPocketz> Wondering how to set the terminal window to transparent.
[02:17] <MrPocketz> don't seem to see any relevant options in the preferences, unless I'm blind.
[02:54] <guiverc> MrPocketz, do you mean 18.10?  (there is no 2018.January release of Ubuntu) - look in edit.prefs.colors then use.transparent & adjust %
[03:24] <linuxuser123> .
[03:26] <Emcy> anyone know why 19.04 would swap " and @ for me even though i have language set to uk
[03:31] <tarzeau> Emcy: in x or wayland or console?
[03:32] <tarzeau> uk keyboard or us?
[03:34] <Emcy> uk in x
[03:34] <Emcy> i assume x is still default in 19.04
[04:03] <Emcy> did i find a cool bug?
[04:03] <Emcy> i mean annoying
[04:04] <tarzeau> Emcy: does it work when you open a terminal and type: setxkbmap us ?
[04:04] <tarzeau> or the same command with uk?
[04:04] <tarzeau> no idea, i dislike the uk keyboard and prefer the original us one
[04:04] <tarzeau> being in switzerland, and being familiar with other languages like french, german, turkish, polish...
[04:05] <tarzeau> and i only want US keyboard (apple, preferably), and input system (macOS/iOS) then any other unix, last windows
[04:05] <tarzeau> and yes i learnt 10 finger typing, and i reach 300keys/min
[04:06] <Scottbert> Hi
[04:06] <Scottbert> So... A fresh install of kubuntu, after the 'booting in blind mode' message, displays a flashing kubuntu logo -- and if you press a key during this time, you get the terminal
[04:07] <tarzeau> Scottbert: nvidia card?
[04:07] <Scottbert> However, after updating packages, this is no longer the case -- and if for any reason Plasma won't start, then pressing ctrl+alt+Fwhatever just gets you grub's blind mode message
[04:07] <Scottbert> Yes
[04:07] <tarzeau> nouveau driver or nvidia?
[04:07] <tarzeau> what says lspci |grep VGA ?
[04:07] <Scottbert> The reccomended one (nvidia-390 or something)
[04:07] <tarzeau> tried 418 from nvidia directly?
[04:08] <Scottbert> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)
[04:08] <tarzeau> i have no idea why canonical/ubuntu ships that old stuff. ugh and why you use such an old videocard
[04:08] <tarzeau> try the nvidia-340 driver
[04:08] <tarzeau> does the /var/log/X*log say something your card is too old for 390 driver?
[04:09] <Scottbert> there is no 418 -- there's 340.107, nvidia-driver-390, and noveau
[04:09] <Scottbert> And if I had money for a new system I would never have ended up on linux :(
[04:10] <Scottbert> I am liking how fast and snappy it is though
[04:10] <tarzeau> Scottbert: sure there is 418, just not in the ubuntu repositories
[04:10] <Scottbert> Oh. How do I get it?
[04:11] <Mead> tarzeau: probably because not everyone can plop down hundreds of dollars on a new video card. Unless you  are trying to play new AAA games, no reason to replace that card.
[04:11] <tarzeau>  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list
[04:11] <tarzeau> deb http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1804/x86_64 /
[04:11] <tarzeau> Mead: no idea what AAA is, but we use the cards (@work) for GPU computing with CUDA (the only game i like is nethack, works with a 80x25 terminal)
[04:12] <tarzeau> Scottbert: you create that file with that content, apt-get update, apt-get install cuda-10-1 (and it'll install ALL)
[04:12] <tarzeau> Scottbert: but really check on the nvidia webpage or with the logfile i gave a hint with if your card is supported
[04:13] <tarzeau> Mead: hundreds? 1080/2080 ti (11 gb mem) are ~1000, the v100 titan 10000 (32gb mem)
[04:13] <Mead> AAA games (pronounced "triple A) are like the cutting edge make your GPU cry type games, just released by a major software company
[04:13] <tarzeau> and they work on linux?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> Scottbert: tarzeau :: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[04:13]  * tarzeau still likes his old ps1 with wipeout1..3 (guess i'm getting old)
[04:14] <Scottbert> How do I check that my card is still supported?
[04:15] <Bashing-om> Scottbert: Per: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/145182/en-us you do want the 418 version driver.
[04:15] <Mead> tarzeau: Valve is trying to entice other game companies to release them for linux, but SteamOS sorta is hanging on by a thread
[04:15] <tarzeau> ahhh they also mention aaa games: http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
[04:17] <Scottbert> While these update... how do I fix the grub 'booting in blind mode' thing?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> Scottbert: I expect that installing the proprietary driver will fix that.
[04:19] <Scottbert> OK here goes
[04:22] <Scottbert> I still get the blind mode message, but my terminal is back
[04:22] <Scottbert> I freaking LOVE how fast Linux boots, how does Windows manage to be so slow?
[04:23] <qwebirc38656> Hi
[04:23] <Scottbert> So. Earlier today, I had a problem where when I go to login with sdds, I type my password, press enter... and it freezes, instead of starting KDE. In case I EVER encounter this again, how might I fix it instead of having to format and reinstall?
[04:57] <strk> this morning the network manager widget does not show up on my Mate desktop. Any idea why it would be so ?
[04:58] <strk> network does work. syslog contains this message: Apr 18 06:55:57 liz nm-applet[3903]: Can't set a parent on widget which has a parent
[04:59] <strk> also: Apr 18 06:59:06 liz gnome-panel.desktop[3784]: glibtop(c=3784): [WARNING] statvfs '/run/user/0/gvfs' failed: Permission denied
[05:23] <jcb2016> jeremy31, you around?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: ask your issue here, other volunteers might be able to help
[05:28] <jcb2016> ok one sec i think i fixed my issue earlier but i think i got it
[05:33] <jcb2016> lotuspsychje, how can i get my video card working in ubuntu 18.0.4.2 im on al ive usb ubuntu trying it out first
[05:33] <jcb2016> i just ran sudo update ; sudo upgrade
[05:34] <lotuspsychje__> jcb2016: its reccomended if you like ubuntu, you install it to have all things working
[05:35] <scaba> jcb i think you have to install it first but theres the driver manager you use
[05:35] <scaba> if its nvidia if its amd idk
[05:37] <jcb2016> lotuspsychje__, i will install it but want to try it out first to make sure everything is working when i install it or to just get the feel of how it works. is it hard to install drivers for the video card i have?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje__> jcb2016: drivers normally get automatic chosen by ubuntu as 'best' case
[05:37] <jcb2016> oh ok
[05:38] <lotuspsychje__> jcb2016: but some devices might need a better driver, you need to install
[05:38] <lotuspsychje__> jcb2016: wich card do you have?
[05:38] <scaba> jcb2016, if you have nvidia just type driver manager or else it uses the crappy open source drivers for nvidia
[05:40] <jcb2016> VGA compatible controller [300]: Advanced Mircro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8240 / R3 Series] [1002:9838]
[05:41] <scaba> oh yeah ubuntu will use the opensource drivers for amd thats what you want cause theyre good for amd
[05:41] <lotuspsychje__> jcb2016: if it needs radeon driver, you probably will be good, if yourcard needs amgdpu you might need a more recent solution
[05:43] <jcb2016> how can i tell if i have the latest drivers for my video card installed?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: sudo lshw -C video, it will show driver behind driver=
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: but as we said, now on a liveusb you are not fully up to date
[05:46] <jcb2016> ill install it
[05:46] <jcb2016> be bak tomorrowow thanks
[05:54] <jcb2016> guys im back so im going to install ubuntu but the only connection i have is my iphone tethered to my computer. in the installer can i switch to a terminal window and install the boradcom for my wifi then go back to the istaller and install from there?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: we already discussed this yesterday right
[05:55] <jcb2016> lotuspsychje, i don't remember had a lot of stuff going on.
[05:55] <LukeL> can probably activate using the 'additional drivers' submenu in the software & updates program
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: you need to install ubuntu 'offline' then you can install broadcom after the install
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> jcb2016: the broadcom driver is located on your install medium under /pool
[05:56] <jcb2016> lotuspsychje, i had no internet connectino yesteray if i recall
[05:56] <jcb2016> i have terethered connectino now so i have some kinda of internet
[05:56] <oilboi> What time is 19.04 getting released? :D
[05:57] <LukeL> you just delayed it another 30mins :(
[05:58] <oilboi> Damn :c
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !party | oilboi
[06:00] <jcb2016> thanks guys im installing
[06:28] <Scottbert> How do I get lutris to use the existing steam library on my windows partition?
[06:28] <ryahi_skaprinav> at what time is 19.04 stable available?
[06:29] <stagma> good morning guys, any idea oat what time 19.04 will be available?
[06:29] <Mead> ryahi_skaprinav: it is out now  https://tinyurl.com/DiscoDingo
[06:30] <ryahi_skaprinav> :) Mead
[06:31] <stagma> aha
[06:31] <Scottbert> I look forward to braver souls with more linux experience beta testing disco dingo and working out the kinks before I upgrade. Godspeed you folks o7
[06:32] <Bashing-om> !party | ryahi_skaprinav
[06:34] <ryahi_skaprinav> Haha 17 people attended the party:)
[06:46] <koalaaa> Hi folks,  Is there any to install a bootloader from Windows?  I have downloaded a Ubuntu and put it on a usb, but could also have it on the hd, and I want the option to switch to either one or the other before booting
[06:49] <koalaaa> any way to install a bootloader, I should have said
[06:52] <koalaaa> No help for me, for a bootloader in a windows system?
[07:03] <koalaaa> I'll try again.... is there any way to install a bootloader in windows 8, that will give me options to boot up to a Ubuntu on a usb, or on the hd?
[07:08] <koalaaa> What about Grub2Win from Source Forge?  Would that work?
[07:08] <zapx> the standard ubuntu installer will setup grub (the ubuntu bootloaded) to allow selection of ubuntu or windows if ubuntu is installed onto a disk with a windows partition.
[07:09] <eugenio_> hi, i would like to backup some folder to a NAS I have, what do you suggest me?
[07:10] <koalaaa> zapx, if I download a ubunto onto my win8 computer, I will still not initially have a boot option, will I?  I will still have to do complex things on computer startup, getting into bios, right?
[07:11] <ChristW> I have a problem printing, and I am unable to formulate it dstinctly enough to be able to find any advise on the bug tracker or on the web. Maybe someone here can help... When I print a document, the Print dialog shows up (obviously). Now, I select a range of pages to print (2,4,6,8 in this case, to be able to print double sided). Next, I select a number of copies (25), and I de-select 'Collate' (because I want to print all pages 2 first
[07:11] <ChristW> , then 4, etc. This makes flipping the stack easier). Now, I click 'Print', but only 1 copy gets printed for each page.
[07:12] <ChristW> eugenio_: Ubuntu has a 'Backups' program built in. If you create a share on your NAS that can be reached through Samba ('Windows Share'), you can select that as a backup target.
[07:12] <ChristW> There, you can also setup regular backup intervals.
[07:12] <zapx> When I boot my PC gives me a screen where I can select ubuntu (default) or windows to boot. No BIOS stuff needed.
[07:13] <koalaaa> zapx yeah that is what I am looking for.  How did you organise that?
[07:13] <ryuo> koalaaa: so you want to dual boot?
[07:14] <koalaaa> ryuo I guess you could call it that
[07:14] <ryuo> koalaaa: unfortunately that's usually easiest to do that when you haven't yet installed windows.
[07:14] <koalaaa> What about Grub2Win from Source Forge?
[07:15] <ChristW> If I only print one page, I also need to turn on 'Collate' to get the number of copies that I need.
[07:15] <koalaaa> ryuo the machine already has win8 on it
[07:15] <zapx> It's a few years since I did the ubuntu install so can remember exactly what I did. From memory started windows shrunk the windows partition using windows tool (win 10). Shutdown windows booted ubuntu disto and installed (into now spare partition), somewhere it asked me if I wanted to keep windows and allow booting to it said yes and that was it.
[07:15] <ryuo> koalaaa: that won't solve the main issue of having them installed side by side.
[07:16] <ryuo> koalaaa: i usually preallocate the disk format i need for dual booting if i am going to do it at all.
[07:16] <ryuo> koalaaa: you'll need to shrink the windows partition if you don't have another drive installed in the machine.
[07:16] <zapx> I did follow a article I found. Google around for one. But it was all easy.
[07:17] <ryuo> koalaaa: otherwise you could install to another drive and not need to mess with this part.
[07:17] <koalaaa> ryuo I also have the ubuntu on a usb
[07:17] <ryuo> that's not a replacement for a permanent install.
[07:18] <ryuo> koalaaa: anyway, you need to make room for at least one partition for Linux to use.
[07:18] <koalaaa> ryuo so you would recommend put the ubuntu system on the hd?  I think it's already there, and then I copied it to the usb
[07:19] <ryuo> uh... why are you asking about this if it's already installed?
[07:19] <ryuo> i assume you mean the ISO.
[07:19] <koalaaa> ryuo, what I mean, is that I downloaded a ubuntu program to my windows puter.
[07:20] <ryuo> ok...
[07:20] <koalaaa> I also copied it across to a usb
[07:20] <koalaaa> I have not done anything to the ubuntu download
[07:20] <koalaaa> and don't know how to boot into it, other than messing with stuff at startup
[07:20] <ryuo> koalaaa: are you familiar with the normal install process?
[07:21] <koalaaa> ryuo I followed the ubuntu instructions from their site
[07:21] <ryuo> well, the normal process is to install Ubuntu over whatever is there.
[07:22] <ryuo> there's no point in booting ubuntu yet.
[07:22] <ryuo> you need to find a way to make room for it first.
[07:22] <ryuo> that's usually done by resizing the main windows partition.
[07:22] <koalaaa> ryuo I thought it would do that for itself
[07:23] <ryuo> No, i don't believe it does. if it does, then that's new.
[07:23] <ryuo> but it does detect the presence of windows partitions.
[07:24] <ryuo> you normally don't need something like grub2win
[07:24] <ryuo> ubuntu will setup a bootloader during install.
[07:24] <koalaaa> oh?
[07:25] <koalaaa> so, maybe I should just allow ubuntu to install itself, on my win8 puter?
[07:25] <ryuo> yes. it's capable of detecting windows partitions. Ubuntu's grub2 takes over from the windows one and will enable dual botting.
[07:25] <ryuo> Uh...
[07:25] <ryuo> not without precautions.
[07:25] <ryuo> Remember what I said about what it does by default?
[07:25] <ryuo> hm.
[07:26] <koalaaa> you said, I think, that Ubunto will install over stuff that's already there
[07:26] <ryuo> that's the default.
[07:26] <ryuo> normally it wipes out the other partitions and overwrites them. that means no more windows install.
[07:26] <koalaaa> so that could wipe out some of the windows stuff that's already there?
[07:26] <ryuo> definitely, if it's mismanaged.
[07:27] <Dbugger> KelebekUsr2, is a spam bot
[07:27] <koalaaa> well I don't want that
[07:27] <Dbugger> Can someone please ban him
[07:27] <Dbugger> ?
[07:28] <ryuo> koalaaa: any important on the windows partition?
[07:28] <koalaaa> ryuo yes lots
[07:28] <ryuo> ok..
[07:28] <koalaaa> but there's still heaps of room
[07:28] <koalaaa> I would guess I'm using less than a quarter of my hd
[07:28] <ryuo> you'll need to find a guide on shrinking the C partition.
[07:29] <ryuo> https://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[07:29] <zapx> koalaaa. It's not hard but as ryuo says it can destroy so backup first and a quick search will find lots of articles on how to do it.
[07:29] <zapx> if you already have spare space that makes it a lot easier.
[07:29] <ryuo> koalaaa: it's doable, but i always prefer to install windows to a preallocated partitioning scheme to avoid this mess.
[07:31] <ryuo> koalaaa: basically, follow the instructions for shrinking C from windows 8
[07:31] <ryuo> koalaaa: then boot Ubuntu.
[07:32] <ryuo> you should be able to create a root partition from the vacant space.
[07:32] <zapx> yep agree. Pre shrink/partition and write down what all the partitions are so you know what is what when installing.
[07:32] <ryuo> then you can install ubuntu to that.
[07:32] <ryuo> koalaaa: 8G is enough for root, but you should probably do at least 20G for future expansion.
[07:34] <cim209> this bot just messaged me some spam link, please ban KelebekUsr2 from this channel - screenshot here: https://cloud.demyx.com/s/Apj53KyBqsaL2qK
[07:35] <ryuo> that won't solve the problem.
[07:36] <NorthwestVegan> isnt 19.04 supposed to be released today?
[07:36] <cim209> yes
[07:36] <NorthwestVegan> nice, i just checcked cdimage.ubuntu.com but only the beta is up as of now
[07:37] <ryuo> cim209: set your user mode to +R to block spam bots.
[07:37] <koalaaa> ryuo I already have put the ubuntu on a usb with 16 gb capacity
[07:37] <koalaaa> Is there a way of booting into that?
[07:37] <ryuo> koalaaa: yes... that's not relevant to the root partition size.
[07:38] <ryuo> koalaaa: the USB is for booting the live cd which can then install ubuntu.
[07:38] <koalaaa> ryuo so you cannot just run Ubuntu from the USB?
[07:39] <koalaaa> like, boot into the usb?
[07:39] <ryuo> you should be able to boot the USB, but it's not the actual Ubuntu environment. it's a simulation of it. nothing you do in it will be saved.
[07:40] <koalaaa> oh phooey
[07:40] <ryuo> you can then install Ubuntu from it.
[07:40] <ryuo> but before that i said you need to make room for a root partition.
[07:40] <koalaaa> install ubunto from the USB into the computer?
[07:40] <ryuo> yes.. it's the same way that windows installer works.
[07:41] <ryuo> you boot up an environment that exists primarily to install the real OS.
[07:42] <koalaaa> and after downloading ubuntu from their site, when you double click on the executive file, isn't there  an option so that the install does it's own partitioning?
[07:42] <ryuo> what? ubuntu normally comes as an ISO... what executable?
[07:43] <koalaaa> ryuo the file you download from the Ubuntu site.  Isn't that an executable file?  That you click on, to activate?
[07:43] <ryuo> koalaaa: link?
[07:43] <koalaaa> I forget quite how I did that
[07:44] <ryuo> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=18.04.2&architecture=amd64
[07:44] <ryuo> gives me an ISO.
[07:45] <ryuo> koalaaa: i've already told you what you need to do. if you're not going to take the first step, then i can't help you further.
[07:46] <ryuo> koalaaa: if dual booting seems too hard, perhaps you should try installing in VirtualBox.
[07:47] <eugenio_> ChristW, I used it yesterday, but it is not clear how does it work. It seems that only a storage location can be set. If I would set a destionation folder on NAS for each folder I can't. Moreover, the folder I have already backupped presents now many files named 'duplicity-full.xxxx.gpg What are they?
[07:47] <zapx> koalaaa Yes the ubuntu installed has a partitioning tool but you can't use it to "shrink" i.e. retain the data in a partition. If you don't need to "shrink" the windows partition. i.e. you already have spare space on the disk then you can create new partitions in the ubuntu installer.
[07:49] <koalaaa> ryuo I believe I did download ubuntu from that site   https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=18.04.2&architecture=amd64
[07:50] <anikras> Hi I am using ubuntu 18 and it's my workstation
[07:50] <anikras> I tried to use "sudo su -"
[07:50] <ryuo> koalaaa: then you have an ISO, not an EXE most likely.
[07:50] <anikras> I have this error: No se puede ejecutar {anikras}: No existe el archivo o el directorio
[07:51] <anikras> I revied /etc/sudoers and it's ok
[07:51] <ryuo> anikras: rerun it with: LANG=C sudo su -
[07:51] <ryuo> anikras: so we can see what it says in English.
[07:51] <anikras> ryuo, Cannot execute {anikras}: No such file or directory
[07:52] <ryuo> why are you running su with sudo?
[07:52] <ryuo> you can use sudo -u <name> -i
[07:52] <koalaaa> ryuo I think I recall clicking on the download to activate it
[07:52] <anikras> I need to login with root user
[07:52] <ryuo> ok... then do sudo -i
[07:53] <ryuo> that runs a login shell as root
[07:53] <hazeyez> anyone have any luck connecting to ZNC? i am trying for the first time it wont connect
[07:53] <anikras> ryuo, sudo: {anikras}: command not found
[07:53] <esro> what hour 19.04 releases ?
[07:54] <anikras> 18.04
[07:54] <ryuo> anikras: all i can tell you is it's trying to execute a command named {anikras}
[07:54] <ryuo> no idea why.
[07:55] <anikras> me neither
[07:55] <ducasse> esro: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <hazeyez> can someone help me connect to ZNC?
[07:55] <esro> thx
[07:55] <NorthwestVegan> idk esro byt uts not up yet
[07:55] <NorthwestVegan> *but its not
[07:56] <ChristW> eugenio_: That's an encrypted backup from the time that you ran a full backup...
[07:56] <ryuo> ubottu: is it out?
[07:56] <ryuo> !release
[07:56] <ryuo> hm.
[07:56] <ryuo> i remember it having a trigger for releases?
[07:56] <ryuo> !isitready?
[07:56] <ryuo> !isitout
[07:56] <ryuo> ok.
[07:56] <ryuo> that's it.
[07:57] <hazeyez> Hello, I have a new ZNC account via KIREnet - but I am havind trouble connecting, can anyone help??
[07:57] <NorthwestVegan> lol
[07:57] <eugenio_> ChristW, I still don't understand how does it work
[07:57] <ryuo> hazeyez: did it occur to you to ask their support?
[07:58] <hazeyez> ryuo - yes I am using their instructions, and my IRC client will not connect
[07:58] <ChristW> eugenio_: Those files are there, so you have made a backup. I don't know from which folders, but either your full home directory and everything in it (Downloads, Documents...), or some other folder you specified.
[07:58] <ducasse> hazeyez: it's not an ubuntu issue
[07:58] <eugenio_> ChristW, I need something like a time machine, I want to replicate different folders in different folders on NAS (possibly automatically)
[07:58] <ChristW> You can use the Backups program to restore (part of) the files that you have made a backup of.
[07:59] <hazeyez> ducasse: I can make it an ubuntu issue
[07:59] <eugenio_> ChristW, is there other solutions?
[08:03] <ChristW> eugenio_: https://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/ might help you to see what you can and cannot do with Deja Dup (the 'Backups' program).
[08:14] <qwebirc96013> any news about the 19.04 release
[08:15] <tarzeau> qwebirc96013: not there yet https://www.ubuntu.com/#download
[08:15] <tarzeau> qwebirc96013: wrong time, wait until 2100 UTC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule
[08:15] <tarzeau> ah wait that's for freezes
[08:16] <ducasse> qwebirc96013: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:16] <wyseguy> qwebirc96013, downloading 19.04 studio atm
[08:28] <eugenio_> ChristW, this is clearer, thanks for this suggestion. However, I don't find 'Revert to previous version' and 'restore missing files' among the nautilus option....I presume I'm using a different ubuntu desktop, right?
[08:32] <ChristW> eugenio_: When I right-click a file in Nautilus, I do get 'Revert to previous version...', but I can't find 'Restore missing files' either. Looks like those instructions are a bit out-dated....
[08:33] <ChristW> And I don't run Nautilus as the default file browser these days, so I had to run it manually. But then, I got the 'Revert...' option (but, like I said, not the 'restore missing files' option.
[08:35] <eugenio_> ChristW, I have not 'Revert..' on right click
[08:35] <eugenio_> ChristW, I'm using Files 3.26.4, which should be the same of Nautilus, isn't it?
[08:35] <ChristW> eugenio_: I don't know why not. Are you able to restore an individual file (or folder) using the 'Backups' program?
[08:37] <ChristW> I don't know if they are the same. Else, click on the 'Applications' icon (or Alt-F2, I think...) and type 'Nau'. It should show (as a suggestion) "nautilus --new-window".
[08:37] <ChristW> Try with that one.
[08:38] <eugenio_> ChristW, no, I only can choose if restore the backup as whole in the same locations or in specified by me locations
[08:39] <ChristW> And if you run Nautilus manually?
[08:40] <eugenio_> manually Files program opens
[08:42] <quizzz> Are there any informations on what time today the new 19.04 images will be published? Where could I check that?
[08:43] <ryuo> !isitout
[08:45] <eugenio_> ChristW, I tried both your suggestions (Alt-F2 type Nau... new window and launch Nautilus manually) both times a new window of 'Files' was open
[08:45] <eugenio_> of course 'Revert ...' doesn't appear
[08:55] <k_sze[work]> If I have sudo, how do I change the password for another user who has forgotten their password?
[08:57] <k_sze[work]> nvm, found it.
[09:02] <MrElendig> man passwd
[09:07] <TheSilentLink> 1904 is out! http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/
[09:20] <ht3k> so where's the Ubuntu launch party?
[09:21] <ducasse> ht3k: #ubuntu-release-party
[09:22] <ht3k> tyvm! I had typed it without the dashes haha
[09:31] <luna> Ubuntu 19.04 Release party at TG LAN in Norway later tonight
[09:35] <ryahi_skaprinav> ubuntu 19.04 torrent link released
[09:35] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[09:42] <ChunkzZ> ryahi_skaprinav, link?
[09:45] <ryahi_skaprinav> ChunkzZ: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:52] <filifunky> Hi, basic question.  So Ubuntu Software has darktable in it, a photo processor.  It is an older version than the website indicates.  There are later packages available but there's more work putting them together.  There are even Unstable versions.  When does a project become stable?  When would Ubuntu Software pick up a newer version?
[09:56] <EastCharlie> Archlinux recommend...
[09:57] <ryahi_skaprinav> EastCharlie: yes but only if you know how to use commandline
[09:57] <ChunkzZ> ryahi_skaprinav, link doesn't work...
[09:58] <ryahi_skaprinav> ChunkzZ: I'm downloading right now.
[09:59] <ryahi_skaprinav> ChunkzZ: http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/
[10:00] <ChunkzZ> ryahi_skaprinav, I'll wait for the announcement :P
[10:00] <ryahi_skaprinav> ChunkzZ: As you wish
[10:00] <ChunkzZ> ryahi_skaprinav, there might be a change... lol
[10:03] <Cedara> How do I find out which libraries are missing in steam? The latest update from today just broke it and told me that some 32 libs are missing, but I failed to note down which.
[10:03] <Cedara> I run Ubuntu 16.04
[10:03] <Cedara> Before the update, it worked fine.
[10:04] <killtheclock>  /msg alis LIST
[10:05] <ryahi_skaprinav> Cedara: run "sudo apt --fix-broken install steam"
[10:10] <ducasse> !latest | filifunky
[10:10] <jStefan> filifunky, usually a release starts by copying most packages from debian testing
[10:11] <blackflow> filifunky: there's a darktable snap.  `snap info darktable` will give you info on available versions and channels. current stable is 2.6.2
[10:11] <jStefan> filifunky, sometimes you can install a package meant for a newer ubuntu release, or even a debian release, but YMMV.
[10:12] <ducasse> jStefan: we don't recommend doing that here
[10:13] <jStefan> well, I said YMMV, it's an option, not a recommendation
[10:13] <blackflow> filifunky: however, I must warn you to check who the "vendor" for the snap is, and wheter you'd trust them. from what I see, it's not a "verified" snapcraft.io provider.
[10:14] <blackflow> jStefan: sounded like a sanctioned advice.
[10:14] <filifunky> blackflow, it just sucks that snaps are sandboxed but understand the security benefit
[10:15] <blackflow> filifunky: sucks how? that's a good thing.
[10:16] <filifunky> blackflow -- I can't access my photos on my hard drive.  They aren't stored on my booting hard drive ssd.
[10:18] <MrElendig> you can use snap connect etc to work around that
[10:18] <blackflow> filifunky: I don't know which interfaces that snap enables/needs, but if it's confined to access your ~/  then surely you can (bind) mount or symlink there, the actual photo storage?
[10:18] <blackflow> preventing random access to random paths is ultimately a good thing. security and convenience are on the opposite side of usability spectrum.
[10:18] <MrElendig> abusing the removeable-media interface
[10:19] <filifunky> ohhhhhh, I'll have to look at that snap connect MrElendig
[10:19] <filifunky> MrElendig what do you mean abusing?
[10:19] <filifunky> blackflow I'll have to look into those sometime
[10:19] <MrElendig> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1643706
[10:20] <MrElendig> but yea, this is one of the really silly things of snap
[10:20] <MrElendig> and there isn't really a good reason for the hardcoded /home and /media limitation
[10:21] <Cedara> Thanks, @ryhadi_skaprinav - I shall try that.
[10:23] <Cedara> @ryhadi_skaprinav that didn't work
[10:23] <blackflow> well I beg to differ, access to random pahts goes against the idea of sandboxing snaps which are designed to be uploadable by anyone with no supervision or audit by any "official". I agree that there could be more options added to explicitly enable specific paths.
[10:24] <blackflow> (a bit offtopic here though, we can continue in #ubuntu-discuss if you want)
[10:25] <MrElendig> blackflow: what is silly is the hardcoded limit of just those two paths, not that it doesn't allow access to arbitary non-configured paths. There isn't really any good arguments for not supporting a configurable whitelist
[10:25] <blackflow> agreed.
[10:26] <blackflow> I suppose those two are defaults because users who don't plug in their drives (which appear under /media) but have manual (NFS, SMB, ...) mounts elsewhere, could easily just bind into ~/
[10:28] <Cedara> The output from the terminal tells me it's the newest version of steam
[10:28] <Cedara> So it didn't do anything.
[10:29] <MrElendig> running steam-native or -runtime?
[10:30] <Cedara> I put in the >steam command and this is the result
[10:30] <blackflow> Cedara: btw what update exactly? the apt package is just a launcher, so did the update come from Steam?
[10:30] <Cedara> yes @blackflow
[10:31] <MrElendig> try starting steam-native
[10:31] <Cedara> and this is the error message: internal error: /home/mkusch/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/setup.sh is missing, this runtime is invalid or corrupted
[10:31] <MrElendig> could also mv ~/.steam and try again
[10:33] <blackflow> that would remove all local installations tho'. one of reasons why I always configure a separate path for local storage, ability to rm and reinstall in case of problems.
[10:36] <Cedara> I'd rather not move anything where I have no idea why I'm doing that.
[10:36] <Cedara> and it's -runtime, @MrElendig
[10:40] <MrElendig> it will make it redownload the runtime
[10:41] <Cedara> wait what?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:47] <blackflow> Cedara: see comment 2 here:  https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/530645446305521092/   it is for windows, but structure of the .steam dir should be pretty much the same. the idea is to keep the installed steamapps which is a dir you can really just move around, but that doesn't cover savegames for games that don't use the steam cloud.
[10:47] <blackflow> Cedara: so technically you could be able to mv ~/.steam to something else, then reinstall steam, then mv back steamapps and then on a per-case basis recover any savegames that need to be recovered
[10:49] <Cedara> Ah, I see.
[10:49] <Cedara> Ok.
[10:50] <Cedara> I'll see to try that over the holidays.
[10:50] <Cedara> Otherwise, I can upgrade and change over 18.04 - if everything fails (lol).
[10:51] <Cedara> Especially if it's a support thing, that only the latest LTS is supported.
[10:54] <blackflow> Cedara: not sure if that would change anything, if steam's own update (which would be the same between xenial and bionic) broke.  fwiw, I'm on Bionic and I had no update for Steam in weeks (just checked).
[10:55] <Cedara> @blackflow I filed a support request, maybe someone will respond.
[10:58] <gauru> Hi Guys, I recently migrated from windows to Ubuntu. But my system freeze randomly so often that I am unable to do any work. I tried to look in google but nothing is working.
[10:58] <tarzeau> gauru: /var/log/syslog ? dmesg -T ? overheating parts?
[10:59] <tarzeau> gauru: ~/.xsession maybe? funny noises from the device? full freeze? graphics card? mouse moves? ping still works?
[10:59] <gauru> full freeze. I had to hard reboot always
[10:59] <gauru> please HELP!!!!
[11:00] <gauru> no funny noises
[11:00] <tomreyn> gauru: pleas eupload your system journal and post the url: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:00] <gauru> even when I am using light programs
[11:03] <gauru> tomreyn, I am trying to do as you said in your last comment
[11:04] <tomreyn> ok
[11:05] <gauru> tomreyn,  https://termbin.com/8ry1
[11:06] <tomreyn> gauru: why did you set acpi=force ?
[11:06] <gauru> tomreyn, I have no idea
[11:07] <gauru> tomreyn, I am such a newbie
[11:07] <gauru> I feel lost
[11:07] <tomreyn> so you have an AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics - this is rather new hardware, isnt it?
[11:08] <gauru> tomreyn, but my laptop is at least 3-4 years old, it was given to me by my previous company
[11:11] <tomreyn> gauru: yes, actually not that new. i'll review your log now, this will take some 5-10 minutes, please stand by.
[11:12] <gauru> tomreyn, I'll be eternally grateful
[11:12] <GreyXor> Hello everyone, i have Ubuntu Server 18.10 and want to go in 19.04. so i have write this "do-release-upgrade" (prompt is normal) and he don't find new version. the 19.04 is released or not ?
[11:13] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[11:13] <GreyXor> No new release found.
[11:13] <ChunkzZ> no GreyXor
[11:13] <GreyXor> 18 april
[11:13] <GreyXor> ok
[11:13] <ChunkzZ> some time today yes but NOT yet.
[11:16] <guiverc> GreyXor, if you don't want to wait; you can always use `-d` option
[11:16] <tomreyn> gauru: your HP 255 G4 Notebook PC/80CB has BIOS F.12 (07/30/2015).  The current BIOS version is F.27 Rev.A, available at  https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-255-g4-notebook-pc/7609936/swItemId/ob-223486-1  - refer to the "revision history" available there to get a better idea of why upgrading the firmware may seem like a good idea.
[11:19] <tomreyn> gauru: manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04653881
[11:19] <gauru> tomreyn, i'll try to upgrade it now, using the above command
[11:20] <gauru> sudo  manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04653881
[11:20] <gauru> [sudo] password for gauru:
[11:20] <gauru> sudo: manual: command not found
[11:22] <gauru> the above link is to .exe file, doesn't exe files are for windows
[11:22] <gauru> Type: BIOSVersion: F.27 Rev.AOperating Systems:
[11:22] <gauru> Hide all
[11:22] <gauru> Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)
[11:22] <gauru> Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
[11:22] <gauru> Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
[11:22] <gauru> Release date:Jan 11, 2019File name: sp93361.exe (9.5 MB)
[11:22] <JimBuntu> gauru, the firmware update is only supported by Win 7, 8.1 and 10 ( as stated at the site )
[11:22] <tomreyn> !paste | gauru
[11:23] <tomreyn> gauru: you're not supposed to run "sudo  manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04653881" - i just posted this link to tell you where you can download the manual for this system
[11:23] <guiverc> gauru, you can often install firmware using freedos too (running .exe); booted from thumb-drive (like Ubuntu 'live')
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> hahahahaha
[11:24] <deanc> Ubuntu 19 out when today, and what will be the upgrade process?
[11:24] <luna> deanc: 6 hours
[11:25] <gauru> guiverc, tomreyn: shall i try freedos then
[11:25] <deanc> oki, and what is the best/safest way of upgrading from 18.04 (I only installed it last week)
[11:25] <tomreyn> gauru: about the .exe file, you'Re right, this one will probably only work with windows. this is an "insyde" UEFI firmware, you could update it from linux using the firmware vendors' utilities, but would loose warranty this way.
[11:25] <tomreyn> oh gone
[11:25] <guiverc> gauru, i don't know whether freedos will run that .exe - it was a suggestion that sure beats installing windows to update..
[11:27] <tuok> Hi all, does someone know when desktop image of Disco Dingo will be available?
[11:27] <tomreyn> gauru: about the .exe file, you'Re right, this one will probably only work with windows. this is an "insyde" UEFI firmware, you could update it from linux using the firmware vendors' utilities, but would loose warranty this way.
[11:27] <tomreyn> tuok: scroll up
[11:28] <tuok> tomreyn: Sorry I just joined, cannot seem to have any history
[11:28] <gauru> tomreyn, i don't have any warrant
[11:28] <gauru> warranty
[11:29] <tuok> Oh there's this log site, I'll check that.
[11:29] <gauru> tomreyn, where do i find  firmware vendors' utilities
[11:29] <tomreyn> tuok: sorry, luna just said it'll be available in 6 hours (i don't know what this is based on).
[11:31] <tuok> tomreyn: Ok, I'll wait some, thanks for the info!
[11:31] <analogical> why doesn't Ubuntu install the Synaptic Package Manager by default?
[11:31] <tomreyn> tuok: generally, it's planned for sometime today, which probably means sometime today by the UK timezone. and it's 12:30 (lunchtime) there now.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> maybe he's i hawaii or someplace 6hrs behind EDT\
[11:32] <tomreyn> !discuss | analogical
[11:35] <tomreyn> gauru: i only started writing down the firmware upgrade process here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FimwareUpgrade/Insyde - but the relevant part is still missing and i cannot recommend you do this at this time.
[11:36] <tomreyn> gauru: the other approach is probably to install windows. i think it can be installed to external media as well nowadays. ask in ##windows for more suggestions.
[11:36] <tomreyn> gauru: generally, your log looks fine, but this may be due to the non default ACPI kernel parameter you have set.
[11:37] <imj0seph> Hi all. I am trying to create a bootable USB stick with the Ubuntu 18.10 mini.iso. After running 'sudo dd if='mini.iso' of=/dev/sda bs=4096' (which completed successfully) I am unable to boot into it regardless (it does not show up in the BIOS boot menu). Flashing full .iso desktop images works. Is there a specific way of going about this? Thanks
[11:38] <tomreyn> gauru: i assume you may get a more stable and better performing system by using the amdgpu insstead of the radeon graphics driver, but need yet to look up whether this is actually going to work with your hardware.
[11:40] <isomari> 'm getting curl error: "curl: (1) Protocol "https" not supported or disabled in libcurl".
[11:40] <tomreyn> imj0seph: mini.iso may not be installable this way. you may need to use a regular iso writerr utility such as https://etcher.io
[11:40] <isomari> How can I get ssl support for curl?
[11:40] <tomreyn> isomari: please post this: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[11:40] <ChunkzZ> tomreyn: yes it is.
[11:40] <imj0seph> tomreyn: I will try this and report back, thank you
[11:41] <gauru> tomreyn, please suggest me an action
[11:41] <gauru> i'll do the research and implement it
[11:41] <gauru> i am in quite a dire situation right now
[11:41] <tomreyn> imj0seph: ChunkzZ seems to say that mini.iso can actually be properly written to usb storage using dd.
[11:41] <isomari> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[11:41] <ChunkzZ> Give up gauru
[11:41] <isomari> tomreyn: now what?
[11:42] <tomreyn> imj0seph: you should also check that your mini.iso download is intact.
[11:42] <tomreyn> !md5 | imj0seph
[11:42] <ChunkzZ> tomreyn: yes, it works.
[11:42] <tomreyn> ChunkzZ: thanks. please talk to imj0seph.
[11:43] <gauru> i am afraid i dont' have windows key to install windows now
[11:44] <tomreyn> gauru: i suggest you install windows on a removable storage (after checking that's possible) and boot off it, install the firmware upgrade, remove the acpi=force kernel parameter you apparently configured off ubuntu, and boot.
[11:44] <tomreyn> gauru: i'm not going to support windows here, but you probbaly don't need a key.
[11:45] <tomreyn> isomari: please run the command you posted in a terminal on your computer, and post the http address it returns here
[11:47] <imj0seph> I'm trying to find the 18.10 amd64 mini.iso MD5 checksum online to compare it to the one I have but I cannot seem to find it
[11:47] <lapidary> does anyone know if Snap is to replace the apt repo, or is it just a new layer
[11:47] <tomreyn> imj0seph: try a directory above the mini.iso on the webserver
[11:48] <tomreyn> lapidary: at this time snaps are complementary to apt, and there are no current plans to replace apt.
[11:48] <imj0seph> tomreyn: ah, i am an idiot. I didn't think to do that. thanks.
[11:49] <imj0seph> Yep, my md5sum corresponds with the one on there
[11:49] <tomreyn> imj0seph: okay, now use a utility which will verify that the write was successful to write the iso to a removable storage.
[11:50] <tomreyn> such as https://etcher.io
 gauru: i'm not going to support windows here, but you probably don't need a key.
[11:51] <scaniatrucker> lapidar: check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager) and this https://askubuntu.com/questions/963404/what-do-snap-snapd-and-snappy-refer-to
[11:52] <imj0seph> tomreyn: will do, I will let you know of the results. thanks for your help so far
[11:53] <lapidary> thanks tomreyn and scaniatrucker
[11:54] <tomreyn> you're both welcome.
[11:55] <lapidary> :-)
[11:56] <lapidary> This room must fall apart when tom leaves
[11:56] <tomreyn> gauru: in case you keep reconnecting because your computer keeps freezing, please connect to the chat using a different device (mobile phone?) and the webchat at http://webchat.freenode.net instead.
[11:56] <imj0seph> tomreyn: Etcher flashed successfully. It still does not display when attempting to boot with it. When plugging it in, nautilus reveals two disks: "CDROM" and "Firmware"
[11:56] <ilyaigpetrov> Hi. I try to install gcloud sdk on 19.04 and get an error: "E: The repository 'http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-disco Release' does not have a Release file." -- how can I troubleshoot it or fix?
[11:57] <ilyaigpetrov> imj0seph: do you have a blank screen after choosing an item in GRUB?
[11:57] <tomreyn> lapidary: surely not, we're many kind souls volunteering here.
[11:58] <tomreyn> imj0seph: can you take a screenshot and post it to imgur.com (and the link here)?
[11:58] <gauru> tomreyn, i'll try to install hexchat on iphone
[11:58] <ioria> imj0seph, mini.iso does not support uefi, if it's the case here
[11:58] <qwebirc3873> hi, is there any way to know if my Ubuntu install is not corrupt? my USB drive got disconnected accidentally just before the end of the install
[11:58] <qwebirc3873> but everything seems in order
[11:58] <imj0seph> ioria: Oh, damn, yes that would be the problem then.
[11:58] <qwebirc3873> in fact, I'm typing from the disk install right now
[11:59] <ioria> imj0seph, boot in legacy /csm
[12:00] <tomreyn> imj0seph: this is the usb stick content you should see after writing to it: https://i.imgur.com/xeJVe61.png
[12:00] <ilyaigpetrov> imj0seph: I have a blank screen with 19.04 on uefi, typing commands in blind to launch xorg worked for me but after installing the OS I was unable to use virtual terminal which I like to use
[12:01] <gauru> there is no hexChat app in ios, please suggest a good app to connect to freenode
[12:01] <gauru> in ios
[12:01] <isomari> tomreyn: the command returned: https://termbin.com/0wft
[12:01] <tomreyn> ioria: actually there is uefi boot code on the mini.iso
[12:01] <ioria> yep, but does not works
[12:01] <ryahi_skaprinav> how to bring top bar to the bottom?
[12:01] <ilyaigpetrov> isomari: I like irccloud but guys in #linux blacklisted it because it allows anonimization
[12:02] <ilyaigpetrov> isomari: sorry
[12:02] <ilyaigpetrov> gauru: ^
[12:02] <davi_dkr> is there any way to check if my Ubuntu install is fine? disconnected my USB drive accidentally just before it finished installing
[12:02] <davi_dkr> stuff seems in order, I'm using it right now. just to be sure
[12:02] <pragmaticenigma> ilyaigpetrov: Unfortunately that repository is operated by an organization not part of Canonical. You will have to find a help forum related to that product or PPA.
[12:03] <ryahi_skaprinav> how to bring top bar to the bottom?
[12:03] <tomreyn> isomari: run these commands in a temrinal, and report any errors:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install libcurl3-gnutls
[12:04] <ilyaigpetrov> ryahi_skaprinav: it depends on the Desktop Environment I guess you use the default one which is Gnome, try google using this keyword
[12:04] <isomari> tomreyn: no errors. nothing to install or update.
[12:05] <tomreyn> davi_dkr: you should still reinstall. parts of your current installation are likely broken or incomplete.
[12:05] <gauru> i'll be on mutter soon
[12:05] <pragmaticenigma> ilyaigpetrov: Please don't feel you need to respond to each inquiry. If you do not have a solution, please allow others to attempt to help. Sending someone to Google isn't why we're here.
[12:06] <tomreyn> ioria: thanks, wasnt aware
[12:06] <ioria> tomreyn, you need some manual tweaks to make it work
[12:07] <ilyaigpetrov> pragmaticenigma: by my hint may lead to a solution and nobody else is replying here
[12:07] <ilyaigpetrov> replying to ryahi_skaprinav
[12:07] <tomreyn> ilyaigpetrov: about your apt error, you're using a PPA which does not support your ubuntu release. remove it using ppa-purge (which is available from a package of the same name)
[12:07] <imj0seph> tomreyn: yes, I get that when writing mini.iso. Booting into legacy mode on my machine allows me to see the USB stick, but you say that the mini.iso has UEFI code. In reality, this is all a larger symptom of me not being able to set up LVM+LUKS with separate /, /home, and /swap partitions using Ubiquity, but with it being possible using the curses-style installed that mini.iso provides.
[12:08] <tomreyn> ilyaigpetrov: thinking again, you will need to manually remove it, ppa-purge fails when trying to remove packages which have no release file for your ubuntu release.
[12:08] <tomreyn> ilyaigpetrov: look for the apt repository configuration file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and delete it or rename it to *.list.save
[12:09] <ilyaigpetrov> tomreyn: thanks, can I replace "deb http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-disco main" on "deb http://packages.cloud.google.com/apt cloud-sdk-cosmic main"? Will it hurt?
[12:11] <tomreyn> isomari: please describe exactly what happens when you boot from mini.iso. also tell us about your hardware - CPU, graphics chipsets, amount of RAM.
[12:12] <tomreyn> isomari: sorry, this wasnt for you
[12:12] <pragmaticenigma> ilyaigpetrov: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:12] <isomari> tomreyn: np
[12:12] <ilyaigpetrov> pragmaticenigma: 19.04, ubuntu server
[12:13] <pragmaticenigma> ilyaigpetrov: 19.04 is not officially released yet. Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <tomreyn> isomari: try running the command again which returned the curl error earlier - does it still rport this error now?
[12:13] <kal> hi
[12:14] <pragmaticenigma> ryahi_skaprinav: Which desktop environment are you using? Gnome-Desktop, KDE, LXDE, XFCE? If you are unsure, which flavor of Ubuntu did you install; Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, UbuntuMate?
[12:15] <ryahi_skaprinav> pragmaticenigma, Using gnome ubuntu 19.04
[12:15] <tomreyn> imj0seph: how does ubiquity fail with the partitioning scheme you discussed?
[12:15] <ryahi_skaprinav> pragmaticenigma, I was able to solve the problem using gnome extension
[12:16] <pragmaticenigma> ryahi_skaprinav: Ubuntu 19.04 has not been officially released yet. Please understand support will not be available in this channel until it has been officially released. Until then please use #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <ryahi_skaprinav> It's download link is available :)
[12:16] <ryahi_skaprinav> And i mean the stable one
[12:17] <tomreyn> yes there is http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/
[12:17] <tomreyn> it's not released until the announcement went out, though
[12:17] <pragmaticenigma> !isitoutyet
[12:18] <masfour> how to install firefox browser
[12:18] <tomreyn> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ would announce the reelease
[12:18] <M_aD> ryahi_skaprinav: there's no official announcement so to me it's not released yet. Plus the fact that there are still some isos being tested like lubuntu the netboot ones and server isos iirc
[12:19] <tomreyn> masfour: open a temrinal windows and type: sudo apt update && sudo apt install firefox
[12:21] <exell> hi, im having an issue with gnu grub 2.02 it wont bring up the selection menu. I've tried all the cm path and prefix etc and it still returns to just a grub> command line after a reboot
[12:23] <tomreyn> exell: which ubuntu version is this? is this a new ubuntu installation, or did this happen all of a sudden? did you make configuration changes (such as on your firmware configuration screen) which may have triggered this? what do yuo mean by "cm path" and "prefix etc"?
[12:25] <exell> tomreyn: i just wiped ubuntu 18.02 its a new installation, it worked before, it just says grub> and i followed some instructions on the web like going into hd1,gpt6 and into boot etc but when i reboot it just shows the grub> again
[12:27] <tomreyn> exell: ubuntu 18.02 does not exist. which ubuntu release version, type, architecture and desktop flavour (if any) did you install this time? how did you install it? did the installation succeed without errors and warnings?
[12:28] <tomreyn> (if you know the file name of the ISO file you downloaded, this will answer the first question.)
[12:28] <exell> tomeryn: sorry, 18.04.1 lts its vanilla ubuntu with vanilla ubuntu atm as its a totally fresh install direct from ubuntu
[12:29] <tomreyn> exell: please download and use the 18.04.2 installer instead.
[12:29] <exell> it installed without any errors, i can sometimes get the bootloader to work messing with grub settings but it defaults to prompt
[12:30] <exell> I had issues trying to get a new usb to work so I've used the 18.04.1 which I know worked perfectly before
[12:30] <tomreyn> what kind of issues?
[12:31] <qwebirc68735> still no sign of 19.10
[12:31] <tomreyn> qwebirc68735: not until october, no
[12:31] <Cedara> I'd like to hail back in that the move worked, but I have another question.
[12:33] <Cedara> @MrElendig That idea of yours worked. But do I have to reinstall the games or can I make steam find them for me?
[12:34] <thresh> howdy. are there non-live versions for the 19.04 server isos?
[12:34] <gauru> I have found from ##windows that live usb disk is not possible, i would install windows and use the unactivated version to update my firmware/bios, then i would install ubuntu again
[12:35] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | thresh
[12:35] <tomreyn> gauru: good plan then. sorry, wasn't aware.
[12:36] <gauru> tomreyn, thanks for the support
[12:36] <tomreyn> you're welcome, gauru
[12:37] <gauru> i'll be back to update you. i wish I had a usb disk now, i can't waiot
[12:38] <exell> tomreyn: i fixed it buddy, its a weird setting in my motherboard, cos its mounted on a m.2 ssd it was showing two instances on my eufi bios i just changed it to the other drive and it just worked :D
[12:38] <tomreyn> ioria: i just UEFI booted the 18.04.2 amd64 mini.iso in virtualbox (only) fine.
[12:40] <tomreyn> exell: your UEFI firmware, while in the (default) UEFI boot mode, will always use the first EFI system partition (ESP) on the first drive it finds only.
[12:41] <tomreyn> alas you cannot switch between what you'll boot by changing the storage device initialization ordering on the firmware, as you could with BIOS firmware.
[12:42] <tomreyn> (i'm just guessing you may have tried to do this.)
[12:45] <isomari> tomreyn: sorry, I was away. Yes, same error
[12:46] <tomreyn> isomari: please show the full command you run to produce the error, and the full output it produces.
[12:53] <isomari> the original error comes form neovim :checkhealth. I'm sure the error is becasue the installed curl has no https support. I'm trying to figure out why this is the ony machine with the problem. However, when I uninstall curl and rsinstall, it still has no https support.
[12:55] <TheSilentLink> java 8 has been removed from 1904?
[12:56] <tomreyn> isomari: curl https support is provided by a separate package, whose name starts with "libcurl-" - there can be multiple options. for 18.10 there seem to be libcurl3-gnutls and libcurl3-nss.
[12:57] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | TheSilentLink
[13:00] <isomari> tomreyn: I C. I'll look into that now ...........
[13:00] <gautam> Hi there, I just upgraded my kernel to 4.18.20 and I am having trouble installing linux-tools, as `apt-cache` only shows versions up to 4.18.0-17.18
[13:00] <TheSilentLink> the official iso is out for Ubuntu budgie though.
[13:01] <tomreyn> TheSilentLink: 19.04 will be supported here when the release has been announced at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[13:02] <tomreyn> gautam: linux-tools is kernel version specific. the kernel version you installed is not supported here.
[13:06] <gautam`> Hi there, I have built a custom kernel on version 4.18.20. However, I cannot run perf since I don't have the proper version of linux-tools. However, when I try to run `apt-get install linux-tools-4.18.20`, it says it doesn't exist. Do I need to upgrade my apt repository? How can I get the proper version of perf/linux-tools for my kernel? Thaks
[13:07] <gautam`> Hi there, I have built a custom kernel on version 4.18.20.
[13:07] <gautam`>   However, I cannot run perf since I don't have the proper
[13:07] <gautam`>   version of linux-tools. However, when I try to run `apt-get
[13:07] <gautam`>   install linux-tools-4.18.20`, it says it doesn't exist. Do I
[13:07] <gautam`>   need to upgrade my apt repository? How can I get the proper
[13:07] <gautam`>   version of perf/linux-tools for my kernel? Thanks!
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> gautam`: custom kernels arent supported here, use !mainline instead
[13:11] <tomreyn> !paste| gautam`
[13:13] <tomreyn> mainline kernels are not supported here either, except for testing.
[13:13] <tomreyn> but there will likely be tools packages available for those.
[13:15]  * OerHeks seeding 19.04 torrents
[13:18] <analogical> how do I a force Ubuntu to show hidden files and folders?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> analogical: ctrl + h
[13:19] <tomreyn> that's if you run gnome and nautilus
[13:20] <janusss> ls -a
[13:25] <BluesKaj> email from Adam Conrad,  "Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) released" !
[13:26] <dnegreira> woop woop!
[13:29] <tomreyn> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-April/000243.html
[13:29] <janusss> So the livepatch is up now?
[13:30] <tomreyn> !livepatch
[13:31] <janusss> I checked it earlier, but it told me it didn't support the version
[13:31] <tomreyn> Please Contact Canonical if you have questions about Canonical products.
[13:31] <tomreyn> ...other than those which are community supported
[13:32] <OerHeks> janusss, what version exactly?
[13:32] <janusss> 19.04
[13:32] <janusss> tomreyn: I didn't subscribe to the Canonical though :(
[13:33] <janusss> 2019/04/18 21:33:03 error executing enable: Livepatchd error: The platform Ubuntu 19.04 is not supported. exiting.
[13:33] <tomreyn> janusss: as far as i know Canonical provides Livepatch for LTS releases only.
[13:34] <janusss> Okay, thanks for the information tomreyn :)
[13:35] <tomreyn> you're welcome, janusss
[13:36] <cryptodan> why does live patch require snap?
[13:37] <leftyfb> wow, that was quick (19.04)
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> cryptodan: some packages are now default a snap on ubuntu
[13:37] <tomreyn> cryptodan: Please Contact Canonical if you have questions about Canonical products which ar enot community supported.
[13:37] <janusss> Beta was out a while
[13:37] <raub> Easy apparmor question: I am having problems starting mysql (lines 1-2 in https://paste.centos.org/view/23171838), so I add lines 5-6 to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld. And restart. And still seem to be having the same issues.
[13:38] <cryptodan> it was just a question figured someone might know wow
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> cryptodan: to see wich df -h on your system
[13:39] <tomreyn> raub: what does this report?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[13:46] <ViperChief> So...is it just my comptuer or is Dingo not ready for dist-upgrade?
[13:47] <OerHeks> ViperChief, it is just released, be patient i guess
[13:48] <BluesKaj> ViperChief, sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:48] <ViperChief> Yeah, that's why I wanted to make sure. I saw a bunch of posts about it being released.
[13:48] <ViperChief> BluesKaj: I did. :(
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> ViperChief: is your system up to date?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> not dist-upgrade
[13:49] <ViperChief> I know. I did both
[13:49] <leftyfb> ViperChief: it is released for download via ubuntu.com. The do-release-upgrade might take some more time
[13:49] <BluesKaj> upgrade your existing system first , if you're on 18.10
[13:50] <ViperChief> Gotcha. Been a while since I updgraded this way (maybe three years). My home computer already has it but that was a clean install. I didn't feel like clean installing my work computer.
[13:50] <ViperChief> So...was hoping it was ready because I'm impressed with dingo :)
[13:50] <BluesKaj> some repos might not have it yet
[13:55] <luna> http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent 0 day Ubuntu Linux warez
[13:55] <allhafra> Блин, а с мышки 18.04 не смог зайти сюда)...
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !ru | allhafra
[13:56] <jcotton> now I'm curious if that message is machine translated or not
[13:58] <raver> !de | raver
[13:58] <OerHeks> !ops | luna spreading FUD
[13:58] <luna> OerHeks: sorry was just trying to be funny
[13:59] <hggdh> luna: please, not here
[13:59] <luna> hggdh: ok
[14:03] <tuyenpm_> hi
[14:08] <Gerowen> I have a drive in a raid 1 group, but it is not functioning and data is not being duplicated.  The drive is fine and I "just" created this raid group, so I'm sure it's some oversight on my part since I'm new to setting up raid in Linux.  How can I force /dev/sdb1 to start functioning and for the data to be duplicated to it?  Output of cat /proc/mdstat is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ksbyn2MXw5/
[14:10] <Gerowen> Oh nevermind I think I understand what I'm looking at now.
[14:11] <Gerowen> The percentage of "recovery" is how far along it is in duplicating the data, and it's showing up as not functioning because it hasn't finished yet.
[14:11] <tomreyn> this seems to be correct.
[14:11] <tomreyn> estimated completion in 891.6min
[14:12] <Exmix> So can anyone help me figure out my eth0 doesn't start upon boot? I have to 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' every time I start up. It shows up when running 'ifconfig -a' so it's there, but it just doesn't start on boot. I've added it to my '/etc/network/interfaces/'' and that doesn't work either. Even after a reboot, 'sudo ifcondif eth0 up' doesn't work. So I need to remove it from the the '/etc/network/interfaces', reboot and then it works.
[14:12] <tomreyn> Gerowen: are those HDDs?
[14:13] <jcotton> isn't there systemd stuff for that Exmix ?
[14:14] <Exmix> Honestly, i'm not sure. I'm still semi-new with certain system settings and configs with this.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Exmix, using network-manager?]
[14:14] <tomreyn> Exmix: which ubuntu release is this?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[14:14] <lordcirth_> Gerowen, yes, when creating an mdraid, there is no concept of 'data used'. There is only a block device. So it must copy the first drive to the second to reach a consistent state, even if there's no data you care about.
[14:15] <Exmix> tomreyn: I'm runing Kubuntu 18.04
[14:15] <lordcirth_> Gerowen, if you are not booting from this mdraid, consider using ZFS instead.
[14:15] <Exmix> BluesKaj: Yes? I think.
[14:15] <jcotton> lordcirth_: does LVM do that more intelligently?
[14:16] <lordcirth_> jcotton, probably. I haven't used LVM much in a long time, and never for raid.
[14:16] <Gerowen> lordcirth_: I am not booting from it, but I've already got it set up.  My biggest goal was just to have some redundancy since I've got two identical 12TB drives, just in case one failed.
[14:16] <lordcirth_> Gerowen, ZFS will also protect you against various kinds of partial failures, and allow snapshots.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Exmix, NM if active overwrites the interfaces file after each boot
[14:16] <leftyfb> Exmix: is this a server or desktop?
[14:17] <leftyfb> Exmix: Also, is it an upgrade from a previous version or a fresh install of 18.04?
[14:18] <Exmix> leftyfb: Desktop and a fresh install. | BluesKaj: Is there a way I can check? I'm using the System settings module that just comes standard with Kubuntu
[14:19] <Gerowen> lordcirth_ I'll have to do some experimentation with ZFS in a virtual machine.  Like RAID on Linux, I have no experience with it.  Now that I've done RAID on my own, I'll stage some virtual drives and tinker with setting up LVM/ZFS in a VM so I can teach myself before I think about committing it to my live systems.
[14:19] <leftyfb> Exmix: remove everything you put into /etc/network/interfaces. You're supposed to manage your network interface through the network settings in your desktop settings
[14:19] <lordcirth_> Gerowen, that is a good idea. Keep in mind that your performance will probably be lower in a VM, especially with ZFS.
[14:19] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | Exmix: see the 18.04 release notes about deprecation of ifupdown and general changes in network management.
[14:19] <Gerowen> Nothing scarier than potentially losing several terabytes worth of data because I screwed up one command that I didn't understand, :p
[14:20] <tomreyn> !chat | Gerowen
[14:20] <Exmix> leftyfb: The only thing in there is 'auto lo iface lo inet loopback'
[14:20] <Exmix> tomreyn: Thank i'll look at that and see if I can find anything
[14:21] <leftyfb> Exmix: ok, now manage your network interfaces through the GUI
[14:22] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[14:24] <Exmix> leftyfb: I have and still no results. There is only one Wired Connection setting, everythin is set to default, and yea
[14:25] <leftyfb> Exmix: add another interface using the GUI?
[14:26] <Exmix> leftyfb: Did that was well, removed the old one and re-added it.
[14:27] <leftyfb> Exmix: please pastebin the output of: nmcli device show <your interface name>
[14:28] <Exmix> https://pastebin.com/h2td7tWq
[14:31] <lord4163> What??? Apache is ignoring my virtualhosts after an upgrade?
[14:32] <lordcirth_> lord4163, what kind of upgrade? Apache update? Ubuntu do-release-upgrade?
[14:33] <lord4163> lordcirth_: Yes, just apache package upgrade
[14:34] <tomreyn> if this is a support request, please tell us your ubuntu verison, apache httpd (i assume) version before and after the upgrade
[14:34] <lord4163> tomreyn: Apache/2.4.7 on Ubuntu 16.04
[14:34] <leftyfb> Exmix: try nmcli connection up id eth0
[14:35] <leftyfb> Exmix: wait. eth0? What sort of machine is this? A VM?
[14:36] <tomreyn> lord4163: i assume this is the veriso number your httpd server returns now. i mean the package version, though ("dpkg -l apache2"). and we'll need to see the version before the upgrade, too, which is listed in /var/log/apt/term.log.
[14:37] <lord4163> tomreyn: current 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.22
[14:37] <Exmix> leftyfb: No, it's a Kubuntu on a laptop, I have it set 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"' because i'm more use to eth0 and wlan0 etc. Also it returns with 'Error: unknown connection 'eth0'.'
[14:38] <lord4163> tomreyn: nothing of interest in term.log?
[14:38] <leftyfb> Exmix: I would start with putting the interface names back and go from there.
[14:38] <tomreyn> lord4163: how did you upgrade apache httpd?
[14:38] <lord4163> tomreyn: Well, I let it auto update.
[14:39] <xibalba> how can i see the connections getting NAT'd / Masqueraded from iptables? "netstat-nat" doesn't show anything
[14:39] <xibalba> i'm using the following, https://puu.sh/DguA3/b2816c9644.png
[14:40] <xibalba> https://puu.sh/DguAB/74c9e48e0f.png
[14:40] <tomreyn> lord4163: the current version of the apache2 packages on ubuntu 16.04 is 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.10 https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/apache2
[14:40] <Exmix> leftyfb: updating my grub and rebooting. Will post back in a few
[14:40] <tomreyn> lord4163: other architectures have version 2.4.18-2ubuntu3
[14:40] <tomreyn> lord4163: none has 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.22
[14:41] <tomreyn> lord4163: maybe you run ubuntu 14.04 really?
[14:41] <tomreyn> lord4163: this command will tell:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[14:41] <lord4163> tomreyn: Excuse me, 14.04
[14:42] <Exmix> leftyfb: Well apparently that worked. I'll just have to get use to 'enp1s0' and such
[14:42] <lordcirth_> lord4163, you know 14.04 is EOL really soon, right?
[14:42] <leftyfb> Exmix: there's probably some messing about you can do in systemd-networkd to get the old names to work, but honestly it just isn't worth it
[14:43] <lord4163> lordcirth_: Yes, I know
[14:43] <Exmix> leftyfb: No worries, I'll get use to it. Thanks for theh elp. I appreciate it.
[14:43] <tomreyn> lord4163: please post the output of     zgrep apache2 /var/log/apt/history.log* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:44] <alexrmsantos> .
[14:46] <lord4163> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/a4e7
[14:48] <tomreyn> lord4163: according to this, your system carried out an update of the apache2 package from version 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.21 to 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.22 on your Ubuntu 14.04  i386 system.
[14:48] <tomreyn> lord4163: indeed, this should not have had the result you discussed.
[14:49] <tomreyn> lord4163: what makes you think that the apache web server is ignoring the configured virtualhosts?
[14:50] <lord4163> tomreyn: It is serving the default page, my websites are not accessible any more
[14:50] <tomreyn> lord4163: on an important side note: please be aware that Ubuntu 14.04 will loose support in a few days. you need to upgrade to a supported release (16.04 LTS or higher) until then.
[14:51] <lord4163> tomreyn: I will, but I want my websites up and running asap
[14:51] <tomreyn> lord4163: see the web server log to determine the cause for the unexpected behaviour.
[14:54] <jcotton> when is the next LTS?
[14:54] <tatertots> and maybe think about having some "redundancy" if your website is critical
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> jcotton: 2020 april
[14:55] <leftyfb> jcotton: it's every 2 years from the last one.
[14:55] <jcotton> ah ok
[14:55] <tatertots> it's NOT critical if you do not plan on redundancy
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !who | tatertots
[14:55] <tatertots> think cloud flair or something
[14:56]  * jcotton wonders if his WSL would break upgrading from current LTS
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> !wsl | jcotton
[14:56] <jcotton> yes i'm aware
[14:56] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: wsl?
[14:56] <jcotton> oh
[14:56] <jcotton> channel redirection
[14:56] <jcotton> sorry
[14:57] <tomreyn> lord4163: if this doesn't help, you could post it online. also, you could discuss how you access the websites hosted on this server, which nameservers you use, whether you have (or had, before the update) static name resolution configured on your system (via /etc/hosts), which url's you are accessing to test the websites and which virtualhosts you have configured in apache httpd.
[14:58] <leftyfb> lord4163: your logs should help you determine what's up
[14:58] <imj0seph> did lightdm replace gdm in 19.04?
[14:58] <tomreyn> lord4163: this command lists your configured virtualhosts:  apache2ctl -S
[14:59] <tatertots> lotuspsychje: that was @ the website that needs to be up ASAP guy...it's water under the bridge now and 1/2 out of scope and on the edge of off topic so i ain't gonna bother saying too much
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> imj0seph: At the moment, volunteers are still reading up on many of the changes in the final release. If there was a change, it would be listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes
[14:59] <tatertots> lotuspsychje: after all #apache and #networking have their own respective chat rooms on freenode ;)
[15:00] <xamithan> Does the release come with Dingo Facts?
[15:00] <leftyfb> xamithan: no
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> tatertots: did you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:00] <tatertots> MonkeyDust: yeah..my firefox won't open, can you fix it MonkeyDust ??
[15:01] <Mia_temp> Hello channel
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> tatertots: in a terminal window, type firefox ... see if any error shows up
[15:02] <Mia_temp> I am trying to install ubuntu on a separate hd
[15:02] <Mia_temp> I already have windows 10 installed
[15:02] <Mia_temp> however ubuntu does not see my windows 10 installation
[15:02] <tatertots> MonkeyDust: where is the terminal window?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> tatertots: the command prompt, ctrl-alt t
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> tatertots: please dont waste time of volunteers trolling like that
[15:03] <leftyfb> tatertots: trolling is offtopic. Feel free to troll in #ubuntu-ops
[15:03] <leftyfb> tatertots: you have apparently had that Firefox issue for over 2 weeks now and have yet to actively ask for help with it or provide any details. You are trolling. Stop.
[15:04] <tomreyn> Mia_temp: hi there.
[15:04] <Mia_temp> hi there tomreyn
[15:04] <Mia_temp> right now I'm in ubuntu live usb
[15:05] <Mia_temp> trying to figure out what to do about the non-detected windows 10 installation
[15:05] <leftyfb> Mia_temp: in what sense is it not detected?
[15:05] <jcotton> does it have bitlocker on it?
[15:05] <Mia_temp> `'nstall alongs'de w'ndows 10` opt'on 's m'ss'ng
[15:05] <jcotton> or another full disk encryption
[15:05] <Mia_temp> install alongside windows 10 I mean
[15:06] <OerHeks> Mia_temp, likely that win10 is installed on exfat? sudo fdisk -l # would tell
[15:06] <isomari> using netplan, I have a 2nd ip assigned to an interface. How can I remove it's route for a different one? I can assign the route that I want but it's own route always appears first.
[15:06] <jcotton> windows requires ntfs
[15:06] <leftyfb> Mia_temp: this is what I would do. Remove/unplug your Windows drive completely. Install Ubuntu on the other drive. Plug your Windows drive back in, set your ubuntu drive to be primary boot, boot into Ubuntu and in a terminal run: sudo update-grub
[15:06] <tomreyn> Mia_temp: i can think of two situations where this could happen: (1) you have a UEFI firmware and are mixing UEFI and BIOS booting, (2) your windows installtion uses full disk encryption (bitlocker)
[15:06] <jcotton> "While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the
[15:06] <jcotton> upgrade was found." I know the mirror (mirrors.rit.edu) is up to date, so what's with that?
[15:07] <OerHeks> you would need 2 tools, exfat-fuse and exfat-utils
[15:07] <jcotton> tomreyn: for UEFI shouldn't it still find it even with bitlocker
[15:07] <jcotton> OerHeks: windows only installs to ntfs
[15:07] <OerHeks> jcotton, oh, i have seen many exfat issues
[15:07] <tomreyn> jcotton: hmm yes you're probably right.
[15:08] <Mia_temp> leftyfb: if windows is not seen, would it still work
[15:08] <Mia_temp> I mean when I pplug in my windows 10 drive, in bios I can see two things
[15:08] <Mia_temp> one is the hard drive and the other one is "windows boot loader" attached to the hard drive
[15:08] <Mia_temp> when I remove the hard drive both of them disappear
[15:09] <leftyfb> Mia_temp: you only need GRUB to detect a Windows bootloader. I don't think bitlocker comes into play there at all. It should work fine.
[15:09] <Mia_temp> hm so I'll do it all in uefi I believe, right?
[15:09] <leftyfb> Mia_temp: yes, assuming that's how Windows 10 is installed.
[15:09] <Mia_temp> when I google these things, there are a lot of "warning"s everytwhere so not quite sure which path I should take
[15:10] <Mia_temp> is there any way to check how windows 10 is installed from here? (live usb)
[15:10] <jcotton> msinfo32
[15:10] <jcotton> oh idk about live usb
[15:11] <leftyfb> Mia_temp: I would just assume Windows is installed using EFI (if it's a machine you bought with Windows on it in the last few years) and follow my instructions above. It's the safest way to install dual boot with no possibility of affecting your Windows install.
[15:12] <Mia_temp> leftyfb: Maybe I should go into windows and check if it's uefi or wfi
[15:12] <Mia_temp> if I install differently, would your method still work?
[15:12] <Mia_temp> I mean is this a vital part of this whole process?
[15:14] <Mia_temp> hm, would it be possible to check if my windows installation is uefi or efi, from gparted?
[15:15] <tomreyn> Mia_temp: it is relevant, yes. to test how ubuntu booted (also works on the livecd), run this in a temrinal:   test -d /sys/firmware/efi && echo 'UEFI' || echo 'BIOS'
[15:15] <Mia_temp> I booted ubuntu as uefi, I know that
[15:15] <jcotton> he wants to know about the windows install tho
[15:15] <tomreyn> Mia_temp: we don't normally do windows support here, so here's an exception: https://www.easyuefi.com/resource/check-windows-is-booted-in-uefi-mode.html
[15:15] <Mia_temp> I just don't know if my windows installation is uefi or not
[15:15] <Mia_temp> tomreyn: thank you
[15:15] <jcotton> you could check for efi\microsoft on the efi system partitoin
[15:15] <Mia_temp> I was looking for a way to check it here from ubuntu
[15:16] <lord4163> tomreyn: I can't find what's wrong.
[15:16] <tomreyn> lord4163: me neither, since i have nothing to look at
[15:17] <rander2> hello all
[15:19] <tomreyn> hi rander2
[15:26] <Emcy> "open in terminal" doesnt work for folders on the desktop
[15:26] <Emcy> i read that desktop icons had been hacked back in after gnome removed
[15:27] <tomreyn> if this is a support request, please state the ubuntu release you're inquiring about.
[15:27] <leftyfb> Emcy: you are correct.
[15:27] <Emcy> disco dingo
[15:30] <tomreyn> Emcy: hmm, works for me.
[15:30] <tomreyn> oh i think i see what you mean. if you right-click the folder which displays on the desktop, the terminal window will open but not cd to the correct directory
[15:31] <tomreyn> i had tried from nautilus, where it works
[15:31] <tomreyn> leftyfb: are you aware of a bug report for this?
[15:32] <leftyfb> tomreyn: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/46
[15:33] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that is about gnome removing desktop icon functionality. Displaying icons on the desktop at this point (through extensions) is a hack
[15:34] <jcotton> wait why would they do that?
[15:34] <tomreyn> leftyfb: are you aware of an ubuntu bug report for "open in terminal" not working as expected when right-clicking on a folder icon on the desktop?
[15:34] <leftyfb> tomreyn: negative. But again, I don't think that should work since the underlying code?/api? to utilize the feature on the desktop has been removed.
[15:35] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I can almost guarantee the Ubuntu/Gnome devs will mark is as won't fix since it's not supposed to work
[15:35] <tomreyn> it could likely be re-engineered bya the extension.
[15:36] <ioria> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/721/gnome-shell-open-terminal/  can you try this Emcy ?
[15:37] <tomreyn> ioria: isnt this installed by default on 19.04 ?
[15:37] <ioria> tomreyn, idk ... is it ?
[15:38] <tomreyn> i'm trying to find out. but i assumed it must be what provides this context menu option on 19.04
[15:42] <tomreyn> Emcy: could you file a bug report? to do so, use:  ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[15:43] <Emcy> where to file
[15:43] <tomreyn> Emcy: you just run this command in a terminal
[15:43] <Emcy> ok
[15:44] <tomreyn> Emcy: you will need to have a launchpad / ubuntu sso account, but the process will guide you through setting one up.
[15:45] <ioria> tomreyn, should be this if i'am not mistaken; /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libterminal-nautilus.so
[15:45] <tomreyn> Emcy: could you point us to the bug report once you're done filing it?
[15:45] <tomreyn> thank you, ioria
[15:45] <ioria> tomreyn, on bionic ... not 19.04
[15:46] <tomreyn> this file, which belongs to the nautilus-extension-gnome-terminal package, also exists on ubuntu 19.04
[15:46] <ioria> Emcy, have you tried the extension ?
[15:47] <ioria> tomreyn, so the issue it's just the Desktop not the functionality per se
[15:48] <tomreyn> ioria: could you join #ubuntu-discuss ?
[15:48] <ioria> sure
[15:48] <tomreyn> thanks
[15:51] <Emcy> every single username is taken and im not smashing my face into the keyboard to make an account so sorry
[15:51] <Emcy> canonical should have put a captcha on this sign up page
[15:52] <qwebirc75864> Is it possible to run the default ubuntu 18 system tray applet standalone, e.g. in awesomewm?
[15:52] <qwebirc75864> This guy -> https://imgur.com/uIGf7L9
[15:52] <tomreyn> Emcy: "iamemcy" is available
[15:52] <Emcy> i dont reuse nyms
[15:52] <qwebirc75864> It's pretty nice, but is it part of the normal DE? or can it be run like nm-applet etc.
[15:53] <Emcy> id rather you talk about the more serious bug of authentication password inputs seemingly not respect UK keyboard layout such that " and @ are transposed as in the US layout, i assume
[15:54] <luna> qwebirc75864: that would be nice :p
[15:55] <Emcy> i observed this bug at login and when doing sudo in the term, but in other cases the keys are where they should be
[16:03] <maeud> OerHeks cryptodan MrElendig, I figured out what was causing my issue yesterday with the BIOS presenting the hard drive as sdb rather than sda
[16:03] <maeud> it was the option to enable the sd card, despite the slot being empty
[16:03] <OerHeks> hi maeud
[16:03] <maeud> disabling it, install works, enable it again, install fails
[16:03] <maeud> Hi OerHeks
[16:03] <cryptodan> awesome
[16:03] <maeud> No idea why it causes it, but that's the solution :)
[16:05] <maeud> Dell Precision 5820 Tower sda missing hard drive showing as sdb
[16:05] <maeud> that'll be enough keywords for this to be easily found on Google
[16:18] <tomreyn> Emcy: i filed a bug report for what i was able to reproduce here - not sure htis is what you're seeing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1825390
[16:21] <maarhart> What is the most common solution to the tearing horizontal lines problem (e.g. when watching YouTube)?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> maarhart: is your graphics driver installed correctly?
[16:29] <maarhart> I have no idea. I guess ubuntu got installed correctly :)
[16:32] <maeud> Has anyone ran into issues with shim, mokutil and enabling secure boot? I'm getting "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" when enabling
[16:32] <maeud> 7 results on Google, nothing to go on apart from an efi error
[16:33] <ash_worksi> ls -F shows -> for links... is there a way to force it to use the @ symbol?
[16:34] <maeud> what problem are you trying to solve ash_worksi?
[16:36] <hawk> Hmm, is 19.04 properly released yet or not? It doesn't seem to be listed in https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release yet, which I guess is what decides if do-release-upgrade acknowledges its existance?
[16:36] <ash_worksi> I was using -l ... without -l `ls -F` does print at-signs
[16:36] <ash_worksi> however, I was hoping to get `tree` to use the @ sign
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> hawk: 19.04 is released, but release upgrade might still take a while
[16:37] <jairamc> lotuspsychje: I'm sure there's a good reason for that. Out of curiosity, why does it take a little longer for it to be available through the release upgrade route?
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> jairamc: not sure, thats at canonical devs to decide, volunteers cant do much
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> ash_worksi: what are you trying to do exactly?
[16:40] <hawk> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks. I guess that makes it kind of both, but then I know it's sort of expected.
[16:48] <ash_worksi> pragmaticenigma: I just want to display tree using the definition for the -F option
[16:48] <ash_worksi> which says that files would be appended with a `@` for links, (like `ls -F`)
[16:49] <ash_worksi> `man tree`: Append a `/' for directories, a `=' for socket files, a `*' for executable files, a `>' for doors (Solaris) and a `|' for FIFO's, as per ls -F
[16:50] <MrElendig> ash_worksi: are you trying to parse ls?
[16:50] <ash_worksi> oh I guess I read that wrong
[16:50] <MrElendig> or just for interactive use?
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> ash_worksi: There is no way to override ls's output patterns without building the application do perform such functionality. If you are writting a program to parse output from "ls" you're doing it wrong. Use your programming languages built in file tree tools and file stat tools. Don't reinvent wheels.
[16:54] <maeud> if you literally need to simply check, use file ash_worksi
[17:02] <imj0seph> Hey all. I have been told before that using trim on an SSD is not recommended if you plan to use LVM snapshots. Is it true that it causes problems? If so, why? Thanks.
[17:04] <wyseguy> http://blog.neutrino.es/2013/howto-properly-activate-trim-for-your-ssd-on-linux-fstrim-lvm-and-dmcrypt/
[17:04] <RonaldsMazitis> I always wanted to ask how do I reload all USB ports
[17:04] <RonaldsMazitis> on ubuntu
[17:05] <wyseguy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/178054/laptop-usb-ports-stop-working-how-to-restart-them-without-restarting-the-pc
[17:05] <wyseguy> google top result
[17:05] <wyseguy> not hard
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> !google | wyseguy
[17:06] <wyseguy> lotuspsychje, if they can connect to irc they can google "how to reload usb ports on ubuntu"
[17:06] <wyseguy> rocket science is another matter
[17:06] <mouses> 'They can google it' is just another version of 'RTFM'.  It gives our community a bad name.
[17:06] <mouses> If you're having support burnout, take a break
[17:07] <tomreyn> maeud: in case you're not already aware of it, a message of "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" probably means that the opposite of enrolling a system to (passphrase protected) secure boot failed for some reason (such as 'no passphrase was entered', or 'the passphrase did not match').
[17:09] <maeud> not sure why it's happening tomreyn, I'm enabling using "sudo mokutil --enable-validation", entering "12345678" as a test password
[17:09] <maeud> not much simpler I can make it
[17:09] <imj0seph> wyseguy: I've read this article, and it doesn't really answer my questions.
[17:09] <maeud> sbstate shows it's enabled but disabled in the shim
[17:11] <wyseguy> imj0seph, does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/795767/lvm-encrypted-luks-on-ssd-issue-reverting-to-snapshots
[17:11] <wyseguy> if not i must not have the google foo
[17:14] <imj0seph> wyseguy: it does. thank you.
[17:15] <tomreyn> maeud: so is 12345678 the passphrase that is set? i assume --emable-validation will try to disable secureboot using the passphrase provided, then initiate the setup with the key you provided., then enable shim validation.
[17:16] <Blankspace> SError: [Errno 98] Address already in use
[17:16] <tomreyn> but that's really jst a guess, i don't know how it really works
[17:16] <Blankspace> any solution?
[17:16] <tomreyn> !details | Blankspace
[17:16] <Blankspace> when i run python flask program
[17:17] <Blankspace> it gives me this error: SError: [Errno 98] Address already in use
[17:17] <Invader_Bork> hi, i've been running 19.04 on my laptop for some time. now that it's officially released do i have to do anything else than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[17:18] <wyseguy> Blankspace, ps -fA | grep python
[17:18] <wyseguy> what is the pid #?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> !final | Invader_Bork
[17:18] <Invader_Bork> lotuspsychje, ty
[17:18] <maeud> I'll try doing it with secure boot disabled in the BIOS tomreyn
[17:19] <wyseguy> Blankspace, kill -yourpidnumber pid
[17:19] <wyseguy> Blankspace, flask run
[17:19] <tomreyn> imj0seph: can you point to where you read that TRIM should not be sued with LVM snapshots?
[17:19] <tomreyn> *used
[17:19] <wyseguy> Blankspace, https://medium.com/@sanzidkawsar/the-python-flask-problem-oserror-errno-98-address-already-in-use-flask-49daaccaef4f
[17:21] <tomreyn> Invader_Bork: note the word "full" in the command ubottu provided - it makes a difference
[17:21] <imj0seph> tomreyn: I was looking through a shell script that would help users set up LUKS+LVM partitions in a live session (https://github.com/nbros652/LUKS-guided-manual-partitioning/blob/master/LGMP.sh line 178) and it recommends that if you plan to use LVM snapshots, do not enable trim.
[17:22] <Invader_Bork> tomreyn, yes i have used the full-upgrade flag, ty
[17:23] <tomreyn> yw
[17:24] <VasilyZorin> Hello everyone, I've just installed 19.04 (migrated from 18.04), and I am having a sound problem.
[17:24] <tomreyn> imj0seph: i assume the issue with TRIm and LVM snapshots is that it would unneccessarily increase the difference data
[17:24] <tomreyn> imj0seph: so i guess it makes sense to recommend against it. i'm not aware of it breaking things, but i may have just missed such.
[17:25] <Blankspace> thanks wyseguy
[17:25] <VasilyZorin> Is there anybody willing to help me make sound work? I'd pay you :)
[17:25] <wyseguy> np brosif
[17:25] <wyseguy> VasilyZorin, need more info
[17:26] <imj0seph> tomreyn: fair enough. I've been debating whether to set up LUKS+LVM or just LUKS. I'm trying to find out what would better suit my needs. I've an NVMe SSD.
[17:26] <VasilyZorin> wyseguy: I have just installed TeamViewer
[17:27] <tomreyn> imj0seph: if you were looking for recomendations, discussing your needs may be essential. ;-)
[17:28] <wyseguy> VasilyZorin, if you are gonna get into linux you need to learn. ill show you how to do things but you need to do them. Give these guys more info on your setup... laptop, desktop, model, distro version, exact issue. usb is hot off the press with 19.04 so ill be back
[17:29] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:29] <OerHeks> wyseguy, he stated 19.04, so i guess it is standard gnome
[17:30] <wyseguy> ah
[17:30] <OerHeks> oh, the ubottu factoid gives the alsa script too
[17:31] <OerHeks> !sound
[17:31] <wyseguy> VasilyZorin, I would go with a LTS, you will deal with issues when something gets released hours ago
[17:31] <imj0seph> tomreyn: ah yes, my bad. :) really, I could live without snapshots, but the apparent easy resizing that LVM offers would be useful if the Ubuntu root (usually 40gb in my case) partition reaches the limit. But then again, even with my current setup, I always have 10gb free there..
[17:32] <imj0seph> I'm unable to explain exactly my requirements. I might want to do backups through snapshots, but maybe another app could replace that need.
[17:32] <imj0seph> sorry, let me rephrase: I'm UNSURE how to explain exactly my requirements :)
[17:34] <tomreyn> imj0seph: basically, i'd say that if you're qilling to trade a bit of complexity (which LVM2 adds) for partitioning flexibility (which LVM 2 provides), then you'll do well with LVM2. the ubuntu installer actually requires LVM2 if you will do dmcrypt-LUKS because it adds the LUKS layer below the LVM2 layer, enabling you to unlock multiple LVM2 logical volumes by just unlocking a single crypto layer.
[17:36] <imj0seph> tomreyn: in this case, would I be able to have a separate root, home, and swap before install? or would this be post-install?
[17:36] <maeud> same thing when secure boot is disabled in BIOS, "Failed to delete Secure Boot state" tomreyn -_-
[17:36] <tomreyn> imj0seph: in other words, if you will have multiple file systems on top of the crypto layer, you will want to use LVM2 in between, or you'll have to enter passphrases for each encrypted block device you're trying to mount a file system from.
[17:38] <tomreyn> imj0seph: which is "this case"?
[17:38] <tomreyn> maeud: hmm, i haven't played with this at all, yet, so i shouldn't have responded in the first place, sorry.
[17:39] <tomreyn> maeud: is it actually a fatal error or just a notice / warning?
[17:39] <tomreyn> that is, if there is any way to tell, such as the exit code.
[17:40] <maeud> it doesn't give a distinction, just that message unfortunately, only reference I can find to it is the source code and someone here
[17:41] <maeud> from what I can find though it def not enabled though
[17:41] <maeud> -though
[17:42] <maeud> I found a bug report about it not enabling with commands to test and it matches with when it's not enabled
[17:42] <maeud> fix released for that one, but no dice
[17:44] <maeud> if I run "mokutil --sb-state", I get "SecureBoot enabled <newline> SecureBoot validation is disabled in shim"
[17:45] <maeud> if I then run, "mokutil --enable-validation" and enter a password it's set to bring it up on next boot, so I reboot
[17:46] <Kyros> anyone know how to change the color of the date/time widget thingie?
[17:46] <maeud> on boot, I get the mok management screen and the option to "Change Secure Boot state", it then asks me for the password
[17:47] <maeud> I now get the option to enable or disable secure boot, I select "Yes" and then it says "Failed to delete Secure Boot state"
[17:47] <maeud> so helpful
[17:49] <imj0seph> tomreyn: You mentioned that the ubuntu installed requires LVM2 if you do dm-crypt-LUKS. Is this the default "encrypt your device" selected with the "use LVM paritioning" options, or the "Something else" option, or both? Or am I completely misunderstanding you? I've never really been able to set up LVM+LUKS in the "Something else" menu
[17:50] <Kyros> its bugging me that the clock is blue while the rest of the panel is white
[17:50] <tomreyn> maeud: hmm, to disable secureboot enrollment, i think the firmware should be prompting your passphrase really. that's strange if it doesn't do so.
[17:51] <maeud> mokutil asks for the passphrase tomreyn
[17:51] <maeud> I enter it, it gets accepted (I assume) then proceeds to give me the option
[17:51] <tomreyn> imj0seph: i was referring to the "encrypt your device" option which automatically enables "use LVM paritioning".
[17:53] <tomreyn> Kyros: you should provide details such as your ubuntu version, desktop environment (if any).
[17:53] <Kyros> tomreyn: good point, its 19.04 with gnome and dash-to-panel installed
[17:54] <Kyros> i wonder if its my theme
[17:54] <imj0seph> tomreyn: ah yes, I see. Is it possible to separate the / , /home, and /swap partitions using this option?
[17:54] <Kyros> it is
[17:55] <xmetal> hmm I have an install of 19.04 nightly from a few weeks ago (always updating) and things are great (downloading the official 19.04 iso now) but for some reason even when "desktop icons" are disabled they still appear
[17:55] <xmetal> (the gnome extension "desktop icons" btw)
[17:56] <Kyros> xmetal: i had to enable the desktop icons extension and turn them off in the config for it
[17:56] <tomreyn> maeud: i think what would be the best approach to take there is to first disable secureboot, then have mokutil enable it, as well as the validation.
[17:56] <cryptodan> hey xmetal
[17:58] <xmetal> ah ha ... got it (looking in gnome-tweak-tool atm) ... the "show personal folder" and "show recycle bin" were checked
[17:58] <Kyros> xmetal: exactly
[17:58] <xmetal> i'd assume if the extension was "off" all icons would/should disappear
[17:58] <Kyros> yeah and plus the whole section is removed in the new version
[17:58] <Kyros> 18.10 had a section in tweaks just for that
[17:59] <kappa1> how can I create my own file system ?
[17:59] <lordcirth_> kappa1, what do you mean?
[18:00] <tomreyn> xmetal: you may be able to disable this extension by uninstalling the gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons dpkg package (but this would also remove the ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop-minimal meta packages)
[18:00] <kappa1> lordcirth_, designing a new fs like ext4 or ntfs
[18:01] <lordcirth_> kappa1, well, that's not on topic here, but you could start here: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/health-checks/#bluefs-spillover
[18:01] <lordcirth_> Oops, wrong link
[18:01] <lordcirth_> https://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer/fuse-tutorial/
[18:02] <kappa1> thanks
[18:10] <OerHeks> How do i install ubuntu on Kappa1 fs ?
[18:35] <Kyros> anyone having issues with their keyboard in 19.04? It seems like I'm getting these random signals sent
[18:36] <xmetal> i have had a pre-release on this partition for awhile and I have not noticed anything in a few weeks
[18:36] <xmetal> (@ KB issue)
[18:37] <tomreyn> Kyros: x
[18:38] <tomreyn> oops sorry
[18:38] <Kyros> hexchat keeps going nuts like im hitting some kind of escape code
[18:38] <hiya> Anyone here using AMD Radeon 520 graphics 2GB DDR5 with Laptop on Ubuntu? I read nothing but bad things about it. I am about ot buy a laptop vostro model that comes with it. Should it work just fine?
[18:38] <tomreyn> Kyros: does it happen with a fresh installer livecd, too?
[18:38] <Kyros> do you mean besides this fresh install i have now? just the livecd?
[18:39] <tomreyn> Kyros: yes
[18:39] <Kyros> i havent tried
[18:39] <cryptodan> hope all is good xmetal
[18:39] <Kyros> ill check it out after i finish setting up my dev tools
[18:40] <cacoloca> I usually run an iptables rule to drop all input and output packages on my server running desktop-ubuntu 18.04, now i forgot to set it up after a restart, all my text has turned to braille. is it possible that leaving my computer without any iptable rules has allowed in hackers? all my text is braille now
[18:40] <cacoloca> what to do?
[18:40] <tomreyn> Kyros: if it also happens there, try a different installer / livecd, too. if it also happens there it'll be a hardware issue (replace wire / conectors / keyboard)
[18:41] <tomreyn> Kyros: also testing in firmware config and grub menu can help for cross testing
[18:41] <Kyros> its weird ive never had issues with this keyboard before
[18:42] <tomreyn> cacoloca: can you still type standard characters ona temrinal?
[18:43] <Kyros> yeah
[18:43] <Kyros> it only happens very randomly and not very often
[18:43] <analogical> How do I disable Samba in Ubuntu?
[18:43] <OerHeks> analogical, on what ubuntu version?
[18:43] <tomreyn> analogical: depends on you rubuntu version
[18:44] <tomreyn> this will tell what you have:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[18:44] <analogical> I use 19.04
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> analogical: sudo systemctl disable smbd.service
[18:45] <roler> I keep running do-release-upgrade -c for 19.04 and it is telling me no new release found... When do you guys think it'll be available for those who want to upgrade?
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> roler: The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> roler: Unfortunately we are volunteers here, we don't have any knowledge to when Canonical will "flip the switch" to the servers that support the upgrade tools.
[18:46] <roler> Thanks guys... :)
[18:46]  * tomreyn feels fortunate to be a volunteer
[18:47] <roler> Do you think if I do do-release-upgrade -d, that I'll get the stable version now that it is out? I believe it'll put the same values in apt sources anyways
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> No! don't do that roler
[18:47] <roler> haha. okay. :)
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> roler: The "-d" means developer channel. It will put you on the perpetual updates for all beta tests
[18:48] <roler> got it.
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> roler: for more information you can look at the man page: man do-release-upgrade
[18:51] <dc> so how do i upgrade? running mostly stock 18.04 here...
[18:51] <dc> software center shows nothing :)
[18:52] <OerHeks> dc, The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.
[18:53] <landrew> hi all. i would like to know how to do a live update of the os
[18:53] <dc> Alright, so hold tight and wait a few days?
[18:53] <OerHeks> dc yes, i have no exact date for now
[18:53] <ioria> landrew, what you mean ?
[18:53] <dc> dist-upgrade would do the trick if i wanted to be edgy OerHeks ?
[18:53] <OerHeks> landrew, just update or upgrade to a new release?
[18:54] <xmetal> you could do that? ... i would have THOUGHT you say had to be on 18.10 to do the upgrade
[18:54] <OerHeks> dist-upgrade does not give a new release,
[18:54] <OerHeks> !info dist-upgrade
[18:54] <OerHeks> !dist-upgrade
[18:54] <dc> !upgrade
[18:54] <landrew> ioria to os 19.4
[18:55] <ioria> landrew, and you are on 18.10 atm or what  ?
[18:56] <landrew> ioria i am on 19.4 beta
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> dc: Note that 18.04 is an LTS release. If you installed that fresh using 18.04 release media, you will not see any prompts until the next LTS release is offered in April 2020. You can change your system to enter the regular release schedule, which would then bring your the biannual regular releases
[18:56] <ioria> landrew, just sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade then
[18:57] <Caleb__> hi, has anyone had a problem on ubuntu 19.04 with Alt-Tab not working?
[18:57] <dc> pragmaticenigma: yes i did install 18.04 fresh
[18:58] <dc> I would like to stay on top of things, so what do i need to do?
[18:59] <Ben64> upgrade after 20.04.1 comes out
[18:59] <Caleb__> ah n/m, it was mapped to super-tab
[19:01] <dc> I switched the updater to inform me of any new version and now it says 18.10 is available
[19:01] <dc> do i have to do that first?
[19:01] <dc> so the upgrade path is 18.04 LTS > 18.10 > 19.04?
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> dc: yes, you have to incrementally upgrade
[19:01] <dc> alright ic an live with that
[19:01] <dc> any gotchas going from 18.04 to .10?
[19:02] <pragmaticenigma> dc: 18.10 has been out for about 6 months, most issues have been triaged and I don't forsee you having any major issues. As with any upgrade, it is highly recommended that you back up your files.
[19:03] <dc> all my "data" is on connected drives so im not too concerned :)
[19:03] <dc> here goes...
[19:04] <landrew> ioria thank you for the help.
[19:04] <ioria> landrew, ok
[19:05] <dc> it just warned me about some third party sources being disabled
[19:05] <dc> does it just comment them out?
[19:06] <{xmb}> can someone paste me the newest version of apt-cache search openjdk
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> dc: I don't recall exactly what happens when that message is displayed
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: What version of ubuntu?
[19:07] <{xmb}> im not sure, 16 or 18
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> !info xenial openjdk
[19:07] <Scytale89> anybody having problems with gnome-weather getting proper weather data?
[19:07] <doug16k> alt-left and alt-right suddenly switch desktops. I can't use that key combination in remote control anymore!
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> !info openjdk xenial
[19:08] <{xmb}> hm none ?
[19:08] <doug16k> where do I turn off alt-left and alt-right being overridde. the number of keystrokes overridden in ubuntu is ridiculous imho
[19:08] <Ben64> !info openjdk-9-jre xenial
[19:08] <{xmb}> what about v13
[19:09] <ioria> {xmb}, about java you have to be sure about your ubuntu version
[19:09] <Ben64> nope
[19:09] <{xmb}> i have none, im coding on debian stuff that should also work on ubuntu
[19:09] <pragmaticenigma> !info openjdk-8 xenial
[19:09] <ioria> {xmb}, cat /etc/issue
[19:09] <{xmb}> its debian, no ubuntu access, thats why im here
[19:09] <leftyfb> {xmb}: you should be able to create an lxd container of Ubuntu for such development
[19:09] <{xmb}> i... see..
[19:10] <{xmb}> is there a ubuntubootstrap into chroot
[19:10] <{xmb}> like debootstrap
[19:10] <{xmb}> i havent heard much about lxd, no idea what that is, i know chroots tho
[19:10] <ioria> {xmb}, why not asking in #debian ?
[19:10] <leftyfb> {xmb}: lxd launch ubuntu:16.04 mytestcontainer
[19:10] <leftyfb> {xmb}: feel free to read up on it
[19:11] <{xmb}> cause i need to code for ubuntu and dont have one handy
[19:11] <{xmb}> k lxd
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: While this is not the best channel for programming help. When developing an application, you should target the lowest common denominiator. In your case, I would target OpenJDK 8
[19:12] <{xmb}> debian doesnt have lxd yes i dont see it on apt-cache
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:12] <ioria> {xmb}, yes, 8 is the best for 16.04-18.04
[19:12] <{xmb}> u're great helpers btw, in contraverse of these debianers
[19:12] <leftyfb> {xmb}: try the snap
[19:13] <leftyfb> {xmb}: sudo snap install lxd
[19:15] <{xmb}> this is.. who knows how old, thats why i dont run ubuntu, i have v13, hmm.. and on ubuntu its not even on base apt, ..i dont wanna insult, i just freelance
[19:16] <leftyfb> {xmb}: what is old? snapd? lxd? Your install of Debian?
[19:16] <{xmb}> v8 of openjdk vs v13
[19:16] <{xmb}> where is the snap[d] http url
[19:16] <{xmb}> but however, im interested in an ubuntu chroot, not so unknown software and containers
[19:17] <{xmb}> with debian i have deboostrap and similiars, type cmd, type tree, type destpoint, it installs, for in-chroot
[19:17] <{xmb}> is there a this piece for ubuntu ?
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: I have not heard or seen anything about Java 13 yet... what are you referencing for version numbers?
[19:18] <leftyfb> {xmb}: sudo apt install snapd
[19:18] <leftyfb> {xmb}: the container would be easier and cleaner to setup
[19:18] <{xmb}> i see, snapd is on debian, sec about versions
[19:18] <leftyfb> {xmb}: and quicker
[19:18] <{xmb}> how to access it
[19:18] <ioria>  !info openjdk-13-jdk  disco
[19:18] <{xmb}> yeah this one v13
[19:19] <leftyfb> {xmb}: sudo snap install lxd && lxd launch ubuntu:16.04 myxenialcontainer && lxc exec myxenialcontainer "/bin/bash"   # then you can setup ssh if you like
[19:19] <ioria> {xmb}, you need 19.04 then
[19:19] <{xmb}> i see, k
[19:20] <CookieM> there are two flavours of openjdk for bionic: 8 and 11. According to Oracle “Java SE 12.0.1 is the latest release”
[19:20] <{xmb}> i ask the dudes what version they have, somewhen they will reply :)
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: According to OpenJDK publications, 13 isn't released until 2019-09-17... just a heads up there.
[19:20] <ioria> {xmb},  stay away from 11
[19:20] <{xmb}> interesting information .. coding related
[19:23] <{xmb}> thank you folks yet, big help you were, fast and kind, ++ !
[19:25] <doug16k> I think an update overwrote my keyboard configuration for alt-left and alt-right? I use those all day every day and now they suddenly switch desktops
[19:25] <doug16k> it'
[19:26] <doug16k> s back in my IDE, and word left/right on some mac programs. that's how I know I use it all the time and it suddenly changed
[19:26] <doug16k> (mac when remote controlling)
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> doug16k: You may have to re-setup your keyboard shortcuts, and deactivate the ALT + LEFT/RIGHT entries
[19:28] <Maria23> Http://www.isbuu.com  come pls sweet  w w w isbuu c o m
[19:29] <OerHeks> Maria23, please don't spam, thanks
[19:31] <xmetal> i am guessing that maybe a bot like Spotchat has been seeing ... typically <femaleName><twodigits> ... they are autofiltered on Spotchat but i am guessing it's spam like that they are trying to post
[19:31] <doug16k> I looked through the Settings/Devices/Keyboard list many times. it isn't there. it's actually worse than I described. when I press alt the OS behaves as though I pressed ctrl-alt. alt f4 switches to another virtual terminal!
[19:31] <xmetal> (@ Maria23)
[19:39] <lordcirth_> doug16k, have you confirmed that your Ctrl key isn't stuck? :P
[19:40] <doug16k> pressing p and r and e and s and i and g and the other letters in this sentence worked, right? :)
[19:40] <doug16k> \this is the machine where the issue occurs btw
[19:40] <doug16k> I thought possibly physical issue with left alt. right alt same
[19:41] <doug16k> tried laptops builtin keyboard. same
[19:41] <doug16k> been running ubuntu on this for years
[19:42] <Kyros> in 19.04 does any know how to change the alt+tab behavior to only show the icon and not a preview window?
[19:42] <Kyros> i cant find it
[19:42] <Kyros> gnome
[19:43] <isr> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem I'm having involving installing a theme called Flat-remix onto my ubuntu 18.04 LTS install. I've put the themes folder in to /home/.themes, but in gnome-tweak-tools, under themes section, in applications dropdown, no variation of any of the flat-remix themes show up. But they do show up and seem to work properly for shell and icons. Any idea what the deal is?
[19:43] <doug16k> alt+right and alt+left (arrow keys) don't switch desktop for you right?
[19:45] <pragmaticenigma> doug16k: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:46] <Kyros> man this new version seems so hard to configure like i want
[19:46] <ioria> isr, git clone https://github.com/daniruiz/flat-remix-gtk
[19:47] <isr> I already have that folder/files
[19:47] <isr> Plus I don't have git installed on my system yet lol.
[19:48] <ioria> isr, theme is a different repo : https://www.osradar.com/install-flat-remix-theme-ubuntu/
[19:51] <saber1> isr: have you tried to use apt-get? https://github.com/daniruiz/flat-remix-gtk#ubuntu-based-distributions
[19:52] <saber1> isr: this was how I installed it
[19:52] <sazawal> Hello all. I am currently using Ubuntu 16.04 with /home on a separate partition. I want to do a fresh installation of Ubuntu 19.04 over the old Ubuntu, but I do not want a new /home. I want my old /home to be taken over by the new Ubuntu 19.04 installation. I also don't want to format /home partition. How do I achieve that?
[19:52] <isr> Ah. Ok. I didn't realize that it wasn't a master. Gotcha. Thank you for your help ioria. I grabbed all 3 packages using synaptic.
[19:53] <isr> My chrome theme is still hideous for some reason though, it's not changing look like the rest of my windows are. o_O
[19:53] <lordcirth_> sazawal, in the installer, you choose manual partitioning, and you select your /home partition to be used as /home, and not to format. You select your / as /, but yes to format.
[19:54] <lordcirth_> As always, have backups, etc...
[19:54] <sazawal> lordcirth_, Well, this was easy. Are you sure this won't delete my files in the /home partition?
[19:55] <sazawal> lordcirth_, You mean a backup of /home partition?
[19:55] <lordcirth_> sazawal, it will not reformat, but it will overwrite any files that 19.04 comes with.
[19:56] <isr> Oh, chrome does not get edited by themes in ubuntu? That's weird. It looks like I have to get a theme from the chrome web store... eww.
[19:56] <OerHeks> isr, there is an option in chrome for themes
[19:56] <isr> Oh, use gtk+ changed it
[19:56] <isr> Oh man. Awesome :D
[19:56] <sazawal> lordcirth_, The overwriting must be for the config and settings files right? Not for personal files in ~/Downloads and ~/Documents right?
[19:56] <Anjor> Hey folks, I was just wondering if there have been common complaints about upgrades going sour today?  I'm on the fence about upgrading this early.
[19:56] <lordcirth_> sazawal, correct. But always have backups.
[19:57] <OerHeks> Anjor, The release upgrade method is usually delayed a few days while bugs with the installation media are triaged.
[19:57] <sazawal> lordcirth_, Yes. Thanks :)
[20:02] <Anjor> OerHeks: 19.04 is avaialble via Software Updater.
[20:04] <Anjor> According to this post via reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/beppnu/ubuntu_1904_now_available_via_software_updater/
[20:08] <OerHeks> Anjor, so, did you try?
[20:13] <allure> Hey guys... I changed the config in nvidia xserver config thingy and now my mouse is super slow. Changing configs in the control panel also does nothing. What can be the cause?
[20:19] <analogical> I need Python for Youtube-dl how do I install it?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> !find youtube-dl
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> analogical: as you can see, youtube-dl sits in the repos, try sudo apt install youtube-dl
[20:21] <analogical> that version is old
[20:21] <Kyros> i dont really recommend using the repo version for youtube-dk
[20:21] <Kyros> get it off github or whatever, its easy to put in ~/bin or something and add it to your path
[20:21] <OerHeks> snap install youtube-dl (version) https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl
[20:22] <analogical> sigh!
[20:23] <RonaldsMazitis> I have new toy - AKAI MPD 218
[20:23] <RonaldsMazitis> any software that would work with it?
[20:23] <RonaldsMazitis> there website shows 404 on any download page
[20:24] <OerHeks> !info lmms
[20:24] <OerHeks> that works with my akai MPK-mini
[20:25] <OerHeks> check out ubuntu studio metapackages https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntustudio-audio
[20:25] <OerHeks> or the whole list https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/ubuntustudio-meta
[20:26] <OerHeks> plug & play & play
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-installer | also...
[20:29] <OerHeks> you really want a fresh ubuntu studio, with all the tricks and latency kernel stuff
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> OerHeks: Ubuntu Studio Installer does that to any flavor.
[20:30] <OerHeks> Eickmeyer, oh oke, so PA and low latency ?
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> OerHeks: All in the options.
[20:30] <OerHeks> nice :-D
[20:30] <{xmb}> thank you competent ubuntu folks, till later, byyee
[20:42] <jcb2016> hello i need help getting the drivers for my video card. i have a 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8240 / R3 Series] [1002:9838]
[20:42] <jcb2016>  any ideas?
[20:43] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Is there trouble with what you have working out of the box?
[20:44] <OerHeks> i think that Radeon HD 8240 works with the open radeon driver?
[20:44] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, yea i don't think im at full resolution
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> !amd | jcb2016
[20:44] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, which do i use out of all those options?
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: The open source drivers are included. I have an AMD graphics card and it works perfectly with the open source drivers.
[20:45] <jcb2016> how do i know if im at full resolution or not currently Eickmeyer ?
[20:45] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Without knowing the native resolution of your monitor, that's impossible to know.
[20:46] <OerHeks> sudo lshw -C display # would tell
[20:46] <jcb2016> ok
[20:46] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: ^ what OerHeks said
[20:48] <jcb2016> https://pastebin.com/YfAfzBGP
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: It doesn't look like you used sudo.
[20:49] <jcb2016> let me use sudo
[20:50] <OerHeks> R3 series are not coverd by the open amdgpu and closed amd-gpu pro , so if you experience screen resolution issues, try to reset the monitor with its own buttons to fabric defaults
[20:50] <teward> OerHeks: factory defaults*
[20:50] <jcb2016> https://pastebin.com/JeBdvaSr
[20:51] <allure> hey guys.. I cant seem to reset my configs for the mouse, which is TERRIBLY slow now. I tried on the control panel, using dconf-editor, using gsettings, using xinput.... what is wrong?
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: So, it's the R3 series, which doesn't work with the amdgpu or amdgpu-pro drivers, which means using the open source radeon drivers.
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: That's built into the kernel, so there's nothing to install
[20:52] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, it feels like im not getting the full reoslution. i don't know though
[20:52] <Ben64> change the resolution?
[20:52] <jcb2016> maybe im at the full reoslution
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: As OerHeks said, you might need to reset the monitor with its buttons to factory defaults.
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> And, you very well could be at full resolution.
[20:55] <bz-> hi, i just installed a copy of ubuntu 19.04, and changed my display settings to 200% (have a huge resolution) -- when i do so, my desktop background vanishes, and a white screen is shown instead. cannot change it. any ideas?
[20:57] <jcb2016> brb Eickmeyer got to wash the dishes lol
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Okay.
[21:03] <sohkae2Wah> Anyone a crontab wizard? I'm trying to get ifconfig to run from crontab but it doesn't want to work. "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted"
[21:07] <xamithan> Are you not running the cron as root?
[21:07] <sohkae2Wah> The cron file is in /etc/cron.daily, so it should be running with root already, which is why I'm perplexed
[21:07] <xamithan> ifconfig is deprecated too you know,  you should be using iproute
[21:07] <sohkae2Wah> ohhh maybe that's a better route.
[21:08] <sohkae2Wah> Would it still let me take down my interface and put it back up before and after using macchanger?
[21:09] <sohkae2Wah> looks like I'd use "ip link set [interfacename] up"
[21:09] <sohkae2Wah> instead of ipconfig's "ipconfig [interfacename] up"
[21:09] <xamithan> Isn't it ip link set dev [iface] up ?
[21:11] <sohkae2Wah> Testing now, I guess I'll know shortly lol
[21:11] <sohkae2Wah> the wiki page I'm on is unclear
[21:11] <sohkae2Wah> well it returned "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted"
[21:11] <sohkae2Wah> let me try it your way
[21:11] <allure> I am battling with my mouse settings :-(
[21:12] <allure> ever since I changed to 144hz on nvidia-settings, my mouse is horribly slow and I cant seem to fix it
[21:12] <antonino> hi all
[21:12] <allure> I tried xinit, gsettings, dconf, xset, etc and nothing works
[21:13] <sohkae2Wah> same error actually @xamithan
[21:13] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, how do i reset with the keys of my laptop to see if i hvae the correct reolsution?
[21:13] <xamithan> There was also something I saw about cron having different path sohkae2Wah,  You might have to use /sbin/ifconfig or whereever the program is
[21:14] <sohkae2Wah> :( thats what I just tried before actually. /sbin/ifconfig exactly
[21:14] <sohkae2Wah> I might just give up
[21:14] <sohkae2Wah> but I want to solve it for the knowledge
[21:14] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, everything is so big in ubuntu icons everything thats how i know the resolutinon isn't all the way
[21:15] <xamithan> Maybe try ##linux,  they got some smart peeps
[21:15] <RonaldsMazitis> anyone knows how to assing samples to drum pads and record them in same time?
[21:15] <xamithan> Since I don't think its ubuntu specific
[21:15] <RonaldsMazitis> using LMMS
[21:15] <jcb2016> OerHeks, you around still also?
[21:15] <sohkae2Wah> okay good idea, thanks for helping comrade
[21:16] <RonaldsMazitis> channel seems to give option between 0 -16 but once I assing to anything it stops playing sounds
[21:18] <OerHeks> jcb2016, maybe gnome-tweak-tool is your help, it does not scale the whole desktop,  but can do just fonts
[21:19] <OerHeks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[21:23] <jcb2016> OerHeks, i really want to install mate-desktop will this affect anything as far as resolution
[21:27] <OerHeks> jcb2016, i think you will see the same resolution
[21:27] <OerHeks> but there is no tweak tool AFAIK
[21:28] <atheodo> hi, I need to replace my hdd with an ssd on one of my ubuntu boxes
[21:29] <atheodo> can i used disks to 'mirror' the hdd,
[21:29] <atheodo> then remove the hdd and start from ssd?
[21:29] <atheodo> or do I need to do a complete fresh install with the ssd connected?
[21:29] <OerHeks> atheodo, sure, but then you would need a live iso to fix grub, as there might be different UUID's
[21:29] <jeremy31> atheodo: It might be easier to get clonezilla ISO and clone the HDD to SDD
[21:30] <Jayskiluv> Hi everyone :) Trying to upgrade from 18.10 -> 19.04. I get message: Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading. - Can't seem to find a solution for that for 19.04. Anyone run into this, and are willing to share how they got past this?
[21:30] <OerHeks> * those are unique
[21:30] <atheodo> can i do an apt-install clonezilla
[21:30] <atheodo> or I have to download the package and install manually
[21:30] <OerHeks> Jayskiluv, run apt get dist-upgrade, to get all updates
[21:31] <jcb2016> OerHeks, xrandar shows    1366x768      60.00*+  40.00  so im assuming im using the best driver and at the highest resolution
[21:31] <Jayskiluv> @OerHeks, already did that. I get this...
[21:31] <Jayskiluv> The following packages have been kept back:
[21:31] <Jayskiluv>   libboost-chrono-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-random-dev
[21:31] <Jayskiluv>   libboost-system-dev
[21:31] <Jayskiluv> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[21:31] <OerHeks> jcb2016, check this resolution with the monitor vendor
[21:31] <Jayskiluv> So - when I autoremove them, the software updater pops up immediately after, and offers to install them ;)
[21:31] <OerHeks> ...and 4 not upgraded.
[21:32] <OerHeks> dist-upgrade would fix this
[21:32] <Jayskiluv> Actually, that is the output from the dist-upgrade command
[21:32] <OerHeks> oke, hit y
[21:32] <jeremy31> atheodo: I think you need the clonezilla bootable ISO or install clonezilla to an Ubuntu ISO for cloning
[21:35] <atheodo> i see
[21:35] <atheodo> ok will read up some wiki s
[21:35] <atheodo> the ssd is getting here tomorrow,
[21:36] <atheodo> so I will give it a spin :-)
[21:36] <jeremy31> atheodo: clonezilla ISO can clone about anything
[21:36] <jeremy31> atheodo: as long as the partitions on the HDD will fit on the SSD
[21:41] <Jayskiluv> Hmmm. Ok. Solved it.
[21:43] <Jayskiluv> So, one of the packages listed before, I had to manually apt-get install that. Then I got another error saying that package depended on another package, which also wouldn't be installed. So I had to manually apt-get install that. Then do a dist-upgrade. Then the upgrader would progress.
[21:43] <jcb2016> OerHeks, Internal: 15.6 in diagonal HD* SVA anti-glare flat LED-backlit (1366 x 768) per HP website
[21:44] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: That means you're definitely at max resolution.
[21:44] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, ok so its this laptop that is diffrent. im normally on laptops that the resolutionl is like high defenition
[21:44] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: I'd lower your font scaling to ~0.90-0.95.
[21:45] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, how do i do that?
[21:45] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Running Ubuntu or Ubuntu MATE?
[21:45] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, im running ubuntu
[21:45] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: 18.04, 18.10, or 19.04?
[21:46] <jcb2016> 18.04.2 LTS
[21:46] <Eickmeyer> !info gnome-tweaks bionic
[21:46] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Install gnome-tweaks (sudo apt install gnome-tweaks), and then it should be on the font tab in that app.
[21:47] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Just bear in mind that's personal preference for me at that resolution on a ~15" monitor.
[21:48] <jcb2016> got it
[21:48] <{xmb}> does ubuntu have intel-microcode package
[21:48] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, so go to gnome-tweak-tool go to font then go to scaling factor 0.95?
[21:48] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Yes.
[21:48] <Eickmeyer> !info intel-microcode
[21:48] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, ok looks better
[21:48] <Eickmeyer> {xmb}: ^
[21:48] <jeremy31> {xmb}: it has the intel-microcode the last I checked
[21:48] <{xmb}> thank you much
[21:49] <{xmb}> very kind fast ubuntu ppl
[21:49] <jcb2016> thanks Eickmeyer and OerHeks. time to install mate now. Eickmeyer is it hard to print to a shared network printer in ubuntu? the printer is on a windows network
[21:49] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: Glad to hear it. You can also scale down the dock bar on the left using the main settings.
[21:49] <jcb2016> Eickmeyer, ill be using mate should be better
[21:50] <Eickmeyer> jcb2016: It's not too difficult, but there are guides on that. I hate to say "do a google search", but that's how I figure it out when I need to. :)
[21:50] <{xmb}> !info xtightvncviewer
[21:50] <pragmaticenigma> {xmb}: Since you are in the process of building an application, which really isn't a support related topic. I'd like to encourage you to check out the Ubuntu Application developer channel. It may prove to be more useful for you. You can join them in #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:50] <jcb2016> ok thanks
[21:50] <{xmb}> ill try to remember it, thank you
[21:52] <MikeRL> Done an upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04. Does upgrading cause problems like it used to?
[21:53] <MikeRL> As in slow downs and general headaches?
[21:53] <OerHeks> MikeRL, likely not
[21:53] <xamithan> I've never had slow downs on upgrades.  Are you having an issue?
[21:54] <MikeRL> No but years back I did.
[21:54] <xamithan> Well the upgrade to systemd was pretty iffy,  but other than that..
[21:54] <pragmaticenigma> MikeRL: Sometimes after an upgrade there are a few clean up processes to rebuild apt caches and other system service caches. That would be momentary at worst
[21:55] <MikeRL> Such as? What cleanup?
[21:55] <MikeRL> xamithan, How can you tell the systemd upgrade was iffy? Anything acting up?
[21:56] <{xmb}> byyee till soon
[21:56] <OerHeks> just get used to systemd, that is all
[21:56] <pragmaticenigma> MikeRL: I'm unaware of specifics, I only know that it is one possibility
[21:56] <xamithan> When you got all your custom stuff in upstart,  yeah a systemd upgrade is iffy
[21:57] <MikeRL> Well I don't really have any customizations there...
[21:57] <OerHeks> xamithan, so that is custom stuff\, standard would be no issue
[21:57] <Eickmeyer> xamithan: That happened 15.04-15.10, right?
[21:57] <OerHeks> anyone with custom scripts and 3rd party stuff should examine their system
[21:59] <OerHeks> !releasenotes
[22:03] <jan> hello
[22:04] <Guest96565> hello
[22:04] <OerHeks> hi Guest96565
[22:13] <BlackDalek> my friend's laptop is having a problem with broken packages. Unmet dependencies: python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat : Conflicts: packagekit Conflicts: packagekit:i386 How do I resolve this conflict?
[22:14] <pragmaticenigma> BlackDalek: Start with removing any 3rd party PPAs from the system. Conflicts are often because of extra PPAs attempting to overide Ubuntu libraries
[22:15] <asdfgh> hello
[22:15] <asdfgh> i do not remember the software that create bootable usb to install a fresh ubuntu installation
[22:15] <oil_boi> So I have a samsung 860 evo on ubuntu 19.04, do I need to trim or enable any optimizations?
[22:15] <asdfgh> what is the software?
[22:16] <SrPx> Hi, what is the most efficient virtual machine to install windows inside Ubuntu (for gaming)? I've asked this before but I don't remember. It must be able to access the GPU, of course.
[22:16] <pragmaticenigma> asdfgh: etcher.io is the currently recommended ISO imaging software
[22:17] <jeremy31> oil_boi: I have the same model and I am going to see how long it lasts without any optimization
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> SrPx: For software recommendations, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:18] <asdfgh> pragmaticenigma, thank you!
[22:18] <OerHeks> asdfgh, usb creator / etcher
[22:19] <BlackDalek> How do I resolve package conflicts?
[22:19] <OerHeks> BlackDalek,  i am sure the error gives "apt install -f"  as solution?
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> BlackDalek: Have you removed all non Ubuntu PPAs?
[22:20] <SrPx> pragmaticenigma: okay
[22:23] <Bashing-om> oil_boi: Think it is still recommended to reserve some space for overprovisioning; : the reserved space where the controller does its work. My guide for optimising was: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd .
[22:29] <jhutchins> Bashing-om: 404
[22:30] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: checking :(
[22:31] <evdubs> hi - i just upgraded to ubuntu 19.04 and i had a postgresql-10 installation. it looks like the upgrade process marked postgresql 10 as no longer supported and removed the database data during the "upgrade" - anyone else happen to experience this?
[22:32] <OerHeks> https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/ssd.html
[22:32] <pragmaticenigma> evdubs: This is why you are encouraged to back-up your data when performing an upgrade. It is stated in all the documentation as there are no guarantees your data will not be harmed during upgrades
[22:36] <JimBuntu> evdubs, yeah, restore from backups, shouldn't be that big of a deal. Bound to happen when moving into 9 month support versions.
[22:37] <tomreyn> evdubs: do you have the "postgresql" package installed? it should have enabled an upgrade path, i assume.
[22:39] <evdubs> tomreyn, i do have that package installed. during the 19.04 upgrade, i was warned that the database would need to be upgraded, but i assumed the old database files would be left in tact to do the database upgrade after the OS upgrade
[22:39] <evdubs> guess i misread that
[22:41] <tomreyn> hmm, i can't comment, i haven't gone thorugh this upgrade myself.
[22:41] <raver> is there a repository for 19.04 for kxstudio yet?
[22:41] <raver> https://kx.studio/Repositories they seem outdated...
[22:42] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: OerHeks:: oil_boi:: Replaced my source for SSD optimization ^^ .
[22:42] <JimBuntu> evdubs, you may be able to get more direct and personally experienced support in #ubuntu+1, but... they may also say you have to come here... but hopefully anyone with the same issue will then come here to give details/suggestions for next time
[22:42] <pragmaticenigma> raver: Perhaps you should look at their home page: https://kx.studio/index.php
[22:42] <pragmaticenigma> raver: Also, that is not maintained by Canonical or the Ubuntu community, it is off topic here.
[22:43] <raver> yea sorry and thanks for the info didn't knew it was suspended
[22:43] <raver> upgrade did run great by the way :)
[22:48] <OerHeks> raver, contact the ppa maintainer?
[22:51] <dax> JimBuntu: #ubuntu+1 is currently for sustained silent reading and other quiet activities until 19.10 becomes a thing. they don't do 19.04 support in there
[22:52] <dax> we used to +m the channel but people were sad so we don't
[22:55] <OerHeks> i think it is a good idea to leave it over the weekend, lots of people want 19.04 ofcourse
[22:56] <ChunkzZ> 19.04 is broken asf.
[22:56] <ChunkzZ> I done the minimal install from the mini.iso and couldn't load anything, something about a helper error. no thunar, terminal etc.
[22:56] <ChunkzZ> does anyone check the mini iso's?
[22:57] <OerHeks> no terminal, that is odd..
[22:57] <migmolrod> the miniQA department? dunno
[22:57] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, yeah everytime I clicked it an error happened.
[22:58] <ChunkzZ> thought it was the install so I installed it again and it was the same. minimal from the mini iso and xubuntu minimal.
[22:58] <ChunkzZ> off to try lxqt anyway. *waves*
[23:01] <stevendale> Don't bother ChunkzZ
[23:01] <stevendale> Lubuntu 18.10 / LXQt is horrible
[23:05] <Bashing-om> ChunkzZ: All good per: https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/ .
[23:11] <Mead> I have lubuntu on a syste,  tried go from 18.04 to 18.10.... I could go back quick enough. Whomever is making decisions for Lubuntu to change the direction of the distro are going to drive it into the ground.
[23:11] <stevendale> It's my aunty's birthday today
[23:12] <OerHeks> stevendale, go to #ubuntu-offtopic, as you  seem to have no support question
[23:13] <coelho> ola pessoal boa noite
[23:13] <Mead> habla english poor favor
[23:13] <coelho> ok
[23:22] <zealsham_> i have a file in folder and i want to move that file to a parent folder, how do i do that
[23:23] <Mead> cp filename /newlocation/filename
[23:25] <EriC^^> zealsham_: mv filename ../
[23:25] <migmolrod> ^
[23:26] <zealsham_> thanks eric
[23:26] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[23:40] <BlackDalek> I have no third party PPAs. I am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d8WrKSVJ6m/ from apt-get upgrade and http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCD38d5FQ/ from apt upgrade
[23:41] <migmolrod> second link seems broken
[23:42] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: try with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[23:42] <Bashing-om> BlackDalek: The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. <- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCD38d5FQ/ .
[23:42] <BlackDalek> sorry.. sorry.. 2nd link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqCD38d5FQ/
[23:43] <OerHeks> BlackDalek, run full-upgrade or dist-upgrade .. 782 not to upgrade.
[23:43] <OerHeks> that seems a long long time no update
[23:44] <BlackDalek> This is not my laptop. The owner probably hasn't updated it for years.
[23:44] <stevendale> BlackDalek You might be better off doing a clean install
[23:44] <stevendale> That upgrade can only cause problems
[23:44] <Bashing-om> BlackDalek: Where does python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat come from ? show ' apt policy python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat ' .
[23:45] <migmolrod> in an 'askubuntu' post they suggest to "sudo apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade" but it's a slightly different case i think (only a few packages and after adding a ppa)
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat bionic
[23:45] <BlackDalek> this laptop has 16.04 LT installed
[23:45] <BlackDalek> LTS*
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat xenial
[23:46] <OerHeks> that error can be fixed with dist-upgreade, i guess.
[23:48] <ChunkzZ> how can I get rid of "device not manager" under nm-applet????
[23:48] <ChunkzZ> managed*
[23:49] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:51] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, we need more info, what device?
[23:51] <BlackDalek> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/xyse
[23:51] <OerHeks> if it is wireless, then there might be a driver/firmware missing..
[23:51] <ChunkzZ> my desktop OerHeks
[23:52] <ChunkzZ> ethernet.
[23:52] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: the bionic(18.04) sources are there instead of xenial, type "lsb_release -ds" to confirm it's 16.04
[23:52] <ChunkzZ> https://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed I done this + I've tried to edit interfaces but it says ifupdown is disabled because of netplan?
[23:53] <ChunkzZ> wtf?
[23:53] <ChunkzZ> 19.04 too.
[23:53] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, ^
[23:54] <OerHeks> .. please Chunkz, keep this channel family friendly.
[23:54] <ChunkzZ> what?>
[23:54] <OerHeks> i feen no need helping, goodluck
[23:54] <ChunkzZ> what have I done?
[23:54] <ChunkzZ> ugh, what did I do?
[23:55] <migmolrod> that "what the fryingpan" abbreviation? it's the only thing i see
[23:55] <ChunkzZ> yeah like wth
[23:56] <BlackDalek> EriC^^, maybe the owner tried to do an upgrade to bionic and it failed?
[23:56] <jcotton> are we not actually allowed to drop the F bomb in here?
[23:56] <jcotton> I don't mind either way, just wondering
[23:56] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: yeah, that's my guess too
[23:56] <ChunkzZ> EriC^^, any ideas?
[23:56] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: probably best to backup and clean install at this point
[23:57] <EriC^^> ChunkzZ: nope, sorry
[23:58] <dax> jcotton: correct, including abbreviations of such
[23:58] <dax> family friendly, and all that
[23:59] <jcotton> fair
[23:59] <ChunkzZ> dude, even young 3 year olds swear lol