[00:00] <dax> yes, and they don't do it here
[00:00] <dax> anyways, back to less boring topics
[00:01] <ChunkzZ> https://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed I done this + I've tried to edit interfaces but it says ifupdown is disabled because of netplan?
[00:03] <Bashing-om> ChunkzZ: See: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .
[00:12] <MrPocketz> Man. I'm struggling with  18.04.02
[00:12] <MrPocketz> 18.04.2  *.   Trying to make the terminal transparent. Doesn't seem to be an option under preferences.
[00:14] <migmolrod> what terminal?
[00:20] <neyder> hi, i'm using an ubuntu-base with an old fedora-20 kernel (3.10) got to boot, also through chrooting i have installed ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard , it boots. But i have no networking, trough usb-ethernet adapter
[00:21] <neyder> how to make ubuntu up interface , or wich packages will give me wireless
[00:22] <jcotton> kernel 3.10???
[00:23] <jcotton> you do realize we're on 5 now right/
[00:24] <neyder> jcotton: sure, if you didn't know, OLPC was an initiative to bring One Laptop Per Child, here in Perú , we got 1M of those, and they are useless nowadays, I'll try to bring them a new life
[00:25] <Quozl> neyder: welcome.  i'm chief technology officer of OLPC.  i know how you feel.  i wish we could afford to engineer a new kernel and software stack above it.
[00:26] <Quozl> neyder: but to answer your question, you'll need the wireless card firmware on the filesystem, and i'm not sure how it is loaded given the changes in ubuntu kernels since have also changed user-space.  then you can use ifup, ifdown, /etc/network/interfaces, and even network manager.
[00:27] <neyder> Quozl: i know , I meet (past time) some sugarlabs engineers, like bernie and aleksey,
[00:28] <Quozl> neyder: there has been some recent work on linux kernel to get it to boot on XO, see posts and patches by lubomir rintel.
[00:28] <neyder> Quozl: also fedora droppend i386 support so that way isn't viable. Ubutnu xenial stills had life until 2024
[00:29] <Quozl> neyder: yes, although even ubuntu xenial i386 won't work properly on an xo-1, because of missing instructions in the geode cpu.
[00:30] <Quozl> neyder: we had to build webkit's javascript especially to avoid the i386 instructions that are missing.
[00:30] <neyder> Quozl: I think this is going to private chat
[00:30] <Quozl> ok.
[00:31] <neyder> since we are going away fron ubuntu topic
[00:36] <SrPx> For some reason, when I increase my resolution from 1920x1080 to 3840x2160, my TV (4k lg) turns greenish, as in, there is no red/blue at all, only shades of green. Any idea what could be causing it? Not sure if it is the OS, the HDMI, the TV... not sure how to figure out
[00:49] <ryuo> SrPx: sounds like a signal problem. it's possible your cable can't handle that much bandwidth.
[00:49] <pepperon1> I have a failed 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrade that's still boost as 16.04 but the desktop is kinda useless, however, I can log in just fine and work from there. I'm thinking it's best to try and stable 16.04 before trying another update. Any advice on how to clean things up?
[00:49] <pepperon1> s/boost/boots
[00:54] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: Try as ' sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C ' .
[00:57] <pepperoni> Bashing-om: my apologies, as it turns out, it is 18.04, but it just didn't go cleanly, so I rebooted when it stopped. Just found the proper way to check, problem is, my desktop is not right, no menu bar or anything
[00:57] <pepperoni> it's just a background, thoughts on how to clean this up properly?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !info ubuntu-desktop bionic
[00:59] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: As a shotgun approach maybe see what results ' sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ' .
[01:01] <pepperoni> Bashing-om: here's what I get ... https://pastebin.com/pxNzFq1R
[01:04] <pepperoni> anyways, i ran apt update, then apt upgrade, and ended up w/ this ... https://pastebin.com/8TcMYXmw
[01:06] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: Looking ^ .
[01:08] <Bashing-om> !info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat bionic | pepperoni
[01:09] <pepperoni> ubottu: does that mean I should remove it?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> !info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat xenial
[01:09] <saber1> after I upgraded to 19.04, my chinese input no longer works, sigh 😞
[01:10] <pseud0nym> hi everyone, I just upgraded to 19.04 and it looks great, however I can't seem to get the desktop icons to go away. I've tried gnome-tweaks to disable it but it's already disabled (toggled it just to be safe). Also tried poking in dconf but it's disabled there too, however I still have icons (I mean actual file icons, not just home/trash/network)
[01:10] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: Memme see what I can find out why python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat was dropped.
[01:11] <pepperoni> Bashing-om: i appreciate the help
[01:12] <mwsb> pseud0nym: Click the little star button next to that "Desktop icons" toggle in gnome-tweak-tool, there's an option for size for the desktop icons, show the personal folder in the desktop, and show the trash icon in the desktop.
[01:13] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: As the package no longer exist .. may take me a bit to flounder through.
[01:21] <Bashing-om> pepperoni: All I can find is that upstream " the package is going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it.". Will not hurt to "look" and see what might happen if we were to remove. ' sudo apt remove --purge -s python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat ' where the 's' switch is to 'simulate'.
[01:22] <pepperoni> Bashing-om: ok, thnx, working it
[01:24] <oil_boi> Bashing-om, thank you
[01:25] <newdimension> What is the correct source for debian docs? For instance, I'm trying to find the debian postgres docs
[01:25] <Bashing-om> oil_boi: All installed on the SSD now ?
[01:26] <oil_boi> Yes yes, right now I'm just trying to do a virtual server on my laptop using NextCloud for the first time, but I'm having an issue where backup on ubuntu 19.04 just freezes when I try to use my user from my nextcloud server :T Bashing-om
[01:28] <oil_boi> It's just time to try a restart
[01:28] <Bashing-om> oil_boi: Yukkie .. but sorry that is out of my experience range :(
[01:30] <Bashing-om> newdimension: Have you looked in the /usr/share/doc/postgres directory ?
[01:32] <newdimension> Bashing-om: That directory only has two files changelog and copyright. But I also have a more general problem. I'm trying to find primary source for docs, am I correct in my understanding that I need to look for debian postgres docs? Since the packages get tailored for Ubuntu
[01:34] <oil_boi> A restart worked!
[01:34] <oil_boi> Aww yiss, now I have a backup server that I can't mess with
[01:37] <Bashing-om> newdimension: Ny goto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages and a search there gives https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL .
[01:38] <Bashing-om> oil_boi: \o/
[01:38] <gambl0re> anyone know any programs for blue light filters?
[01:40] <oil_boi> gambl0re, redshift
[01:40] <oil_boi> should come up as a snap in the software center
[01:41] <oil_boi> gambl0re, or, if you go to the settings manager and search "night" displays should come up and you just enable nightlight in the checkbox
[01:41] <gambl0re> oil_boi, im using kubuntu
[01:42] <gambl0re> is it called redshift or redshift control?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> !info redshit disco
[01:43] <Bashing-om> !info redshift disco
[01:44] <oil_boi> gambl0re, redshift control installs redshift as far as I know
[01:44] <oil_boi> That was the gui component of it
[01:44] <jcotton> I thought that didn't work with Wayland
[01:47] <pepperoni> so I successfully ran 'apt update' then 'apt upgrade', however, upon reboot, my desktop is still just a background w/ no tray, so I tried to install ubuntu-desktop and get this ... https://pastebin.com/4pfnk5x2
[01:47] <MrPockets> Word.
[01:50] <coelho> Good night, I just installed version 16 of the ubunto on my pc, I saw that the current version is at 18. I wonder if it will automatically att or will I have to do something ??
[01:51] <Mead> coelho: you are in luck they just releasted 19.04 today
[01:52] <coelho> as well ?
[01:52] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | coelho
[01:54] <coelho> the version I installed was 16.04 LTS
[01:54] <tomreyn> coelho: i don't understand "I wonder if it will automatically att or will I have to do something ?" what does "att" mean there?
[01:54] <jcb2016> how do you troubleshoot video/audio being choppy?
[01:54] <bazhang> jcb2016, what codec is it
[01:55] <tomreyn> jcb2016: system logs, i'd say.
[01:55] <bazhang> x265 or x264
[01:55] <jcb2016> bazhang, how do i know what codec to use. im using the chrome default browser to play a video
[01:56] <tomreyn> chrome or chromium-browser?
[01:56] <bazhang> jcb2016, and what container is that video in
[01:57] <bazhang> jcb2016, how many tabs do you have open in chrome
[01:57] <jcb2016> bazhang, i only have one chrome tab open and im playing a youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0emttHwvCOw
[01:58] <bazhang> perhaps webm
[01:58] <coelho> tomreyn: att = update / att= PT-BR
[01:58] <jcotton> YT is vp9
[01:58] <bazhang> parts are
[01:58] <jcb2016> bazhang, thats with any video though
[01:59] <bazhang> they still have webm
[01:59] <jcb2016> bazhang, pick any youbue video and it does it
[01:59] <tomreyn> coelho: i see, good to know.
[02:00] <bazhang> jcb2016, either its streaming issue, ie internet connection, or on yt's end
[02:01] <bazhang> jcb2016, if you fully dl the video and play it with vlc or smplayer, is it the same
[02:04] <jcb2016> bazhang, can you give me a video to test that you know that works? i really think its on my side
[02:07] <jcb2016> tomreyn, chrome browser
[02:07] <bazhang> jcb2016, I just tested that link you gave us
[02:08] <jcb2016> ok
[02:08] <bazhang> it becomes unwatchable about 17 mins or so in
[02:08] <bazhang> just a picture of his face
[02:09] <jcb2016> bazhang, can you try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtqtyyGZvXM
[02:11] <bazhang> no problemo with that one jcb2016
[02:11] <bazhang> next step would be to dl and play in vlc/smplayer
[02:12] <bazhang> and then a different browser
[02:12] <jcb2016> bazhang, im really trying to watch a serice from my church that keeps lagging in and out. thats why i think its on my side
[02:14] <bazhang> jcb2016, thus the different tests to make sure of that, those are all I can think of presently, apologies!
[02:21] <ChetManly> why cant I share a folder vbox
[02:21] <jcb2016> bazhang, ok cool thanks
[02:22] <ChetManly> where is the sf_downloads folder
[02:23] <jcb2016> has anyone installed mate desktop in ubuntu? i saw a guide on the interent but i don't think its right
[02:24] <ChetManly> guest additions check, user added to vboxsf check, shared folder in vbox settings for guest check  ... folder empty... wtf
[02:25] <ChetManly> i dont know how anyone uses that  DE environment in regular ubuntu....
[02:27] <ChetManly> how else besides a shared folder can I move a file between guest and host
[02:28] <tomreyn> ChetManly: did you mean to join #vbox by chance?
[02:40] <unsp> hello
[02:40] <unsp> hello
[02:41] <unsp> anyone?
[02:41] <tomreyn> !ask | unsp
[02:42] <jamie_1> okay, so i decided why not a moved to 19.04, so right now when i log in im getting a blank screen and i believe its related to the drivers for nvidia, which way is best to update them from the ttyl
[02:42] <jamie_1> issue to is im running on systemd boot so im not quite sure how to use no_modeset
[02:43] <tomreyn> jamie_1: there's now a failsafe graphics opiton on the grub menu just for nomodeset
[02:43] <jamie_1> tomreyn: i dont have grub
[02:44] <tomreyn> so how do you boot then?
[02:44] <tatertots> good times
[02:44] <jamie_1> systemd boot
[02:44] <tomreyn> oh you said so, i didn't get that. i have no experience with systemd boot.
[02:45] <jamie_1> ooof.... neither do i up untill the last month or so
[02:45] <jamie_1> i guess ill go into the systemd boot menu and see if going to 4.19 kernal makes a difference... ill be back.. id go to pop!_os support but that requires a gui
[02:46] <tomreyn> you could try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_parameters#systemd-boot
[02:46] <jamie_1> im on said laptop using irssi XD
[02:46] <tomreyn> the parameter is "nomodeset"
[02:46] <jamie_1> okay, thanks
[02:46] <jamie_1> ill be back hopefully with a working system after some tweaks lol
[02:47] <tomreyn> alternatively, nouveau.modeset=0
[02:56] <Scottbert> What's the trick to IP printing in Ubuntu? I figured it out once before but I don't remember.
[02:56] <Scottbert> socket://ip-address and ipp://ip-adress don't work
[02:57] <tomreyn> Scottbert: maybe the ip address is wrong, or cheanges?
[02:57] <tatertots> trick?
[02:57] <tomreyn> part of the url needs to be the printer spool, too, so it's not just the ip address.
[02:59] <Scottbert> The ip address is right; it's manually configured from front panel, everything else prints to it fine.
[02:59] <Scottbert> I don't actually know what a spool is; when configuring it in windows it just takes the IP and creates an IP printing port for it.
[03:00] <Scottbert> So it's something on my computer? How do I get the name of the printer spool?
[03:00] <doug16k> a spool is a print queue
[03:01] <tatertots> well it's safe to say your printer is NOT a Brother or HP brand
[03:01] <Scottbert> It's an HP Laserjet 4+
[03:01] <doug16k> typically printers are really really slow so the whole architecture in the OS assumes queuing is needed
[03:02] <tatertots> you're struggling with a HP printer in Linux?...why ...HPLIP man HPLIP
[03:02] <Scottbert> no manual entry for hplip
[03:02] <doug16k> and it is expected that 5 people may suddenly try to print at the exact same time, spool fixes that and puts them in sane order
[03:03] <Scottbert> I mean, it could just be that the printer configuration tool in linux is badly-designed, Windows always figured it out okay...
[03:03] <Scottbert> All it should need is the IP of the printer.
[03:03] <Scottbert> What other information do I need, and where would I get it that Linux couldn't get it automatically?
[03:03] <tatertots> Scottbert: so you do NOT have hplip eh?....
[03:03] <Scottbert> Never heard of it.
[03:04] <tatertots> i wonder how many times i have to use the term HPLIP before a person at least googles it
[03:04] <Scottbert> Oh, HPLIP package is installed. I have drivers and everything
[03:04] <Scottbert> But the drivers aren't the issue.
[03:05] <Scottbert> Linux just gives me an input for 'Connection:'
[03:05] <Scottbert> and so I give it ipp://192.168.1.240/ or socket://192.168.1.240 or whatever
[03:05] <Scottbert> And that's all the information the OS should need from me
[03:05] <tatertots> Scottbert: HPLIP offers the end user to print test page after configuration
[03:06] <Scottbert> I don't understand. hplip is a package that's installed but it's not a command I can run
[03:07] <tatertots> Scottbert: sounds like this is the first time you're hearing of this, and you did NOT do any such thing, I don't think you even ran the hplip setup (my gut says you did not)
[03:07] <tatertots> Scottbert: good luck :)
[03:07] <Randune> hi all
[03:07] <Randune> I am doing some research on a bug regarding the mouse wheel scrolling speed change not having any effect..
[03:07] <Scottbert> It is the first time I'm hearing of this. I just looked in package manager and it says hplip and hplip-data are installed, though
[03:07] <Randune> bug 1682193
[03:08] <Randune> the mouse wheel scroll speed settings don't have any effect
[03:08] <Scottbert> Searching in the application launcher for hplip also turns up bupkis
[03:08] <tatertots> Scottbert: for GUI you'd need to install hplip-gui
[03:09] <tatertots> Scottbert: notice it has "gui" in the name of the package
[03:09] <tatertots> Scottbert: notice the one you already have does NOT have "gui" in the name of the package
[03:09] <tatertots> thus as a result your gui searching result will be nill
[03:10] <tatertots> you probably should install the "gui" though...it'd probably speed things up
[03:11] <tatertots> i'm going to leave you to it now Scottbert ...take care
[03:11] <unsp> how to change the name?
[03:12] <unsp> setup?
[03:13] <Scottbert> It clearly connected to the printer, but the printer says MIO error so I guess it didn't configure it right
[03:15] <Trump> hahaha
[03:15] <Scottbert> Yeah I installed the gui one and used the tool
[03:16] <Scottbert> power cycled the printer, sent the test page again, it worked this time
[03:16] <zhangjunhu> //
[03:17] <Trump> hello zhangjunhu
[03:17] <jamie_1> okay... so nomodeset didnt didnt do it either, i did grab a paste of my journalctl -e http://termbin.com/0v5dy
[03:18] <jamie_1> im not seeing anything to obnoxious in the journalctl output that should be keeping it from logging in
[03:21] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' anything jump out to ya there ?
[03:22] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: so i think i know the source, i just did a new user from terminal and i can login fine from there so i believe it has to do with the user configs
[03:23] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: any ideas which configs in .config for the local user should be removed to possibly fix the issue?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: K; then what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' Do you have authority to access the desktop ?
[03:24] <spinningCat> can you connect two different source to bluetooth at the same time?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: "-rw------- 1 sysop sysop 5272 Apr 18 13:52 .ICEauthority -rw------- 1 sysop sysop   54 Apr 18 13:52 .Xauthority
[03:25] <Bashing-om> " where I am sysop.
[03:25] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: it says i own ICEauthority but Xauthority says it doesnt exist
[03:25] <jamie_1> jamie:jamie on ICEauthority
[03:26] <wonderworld> spinningCat: yes. bluetooth supports 7 connections
[03:26] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: and checking the working user it doesnt have a .Xauthority
[03:28] <spinningCat> hmm i connect my phone to my computer i cannot connect my headphone i got host is down error
[03:30] <spinningCat> i cant connect second device
[03:33] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Think we have to set it then . see the output 'sudo sudo -V" for "Environment variables to preserve:".
[03:36] <spinningCat> got device added but failed to connect
[03:36] <spinningCat> what does that mean?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> jajaNever mind ^ . That variable is not set until the GUI is started. And you have yet to activate the GUI.
[03:37] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/4cbm
[03:38] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: ^^ bad highlight.
[03:38] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: ??
[03:39] <spinningCat> what the hell
[03:41] <Scottbert> Is there a way to share folders on NTFS partitions through Samba?
[03:42] <Scottbert> Linux did it flawlessly and intuitively like 6 years ago
[03:42] <tatertots> Scottbert: cool...glad you can print with your HP printer
[03:43] <spinningCat> system cannot find my bluetooth
[03:43] <spinningCat> what is the problem i really wonder
[03:43] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Any hoy for starting the GUI '
[03:43] <Bashing-om> sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' ?
[03:43] <Bashing-om> joy*
[03:44] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: running a status tells me it's active
[03:46] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: What desktop are you running ? ubuntu now has the GUI on TTY1.
[03:46] <spinningCat> ubuntu 19.04 is buggy?
[03:46] <jamie_1> going to ctl+alt+f1 it gives me a login screen
[03:47] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: for me it seems to be running on tty2
[03:47] <spinningCat> it is same in 16.04
[03:47] <Scottbert> yeah and now I know about hplip so setting up hp printers on linux should never be a problem again
[03:49] <jamie_1> Scottbert: usually you would have to go into the exports and edit the conf so that it would allow exports the either a specific ip or the the subnet, from there you should just have to ask for it from another computer that has the ability to understand ntfs
[03:49] <jamie_1> i know on the servers i work with its /etc/exports
[03:49] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Well that is different . Let's see what X thinks / ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[03:51] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/k1yw\
[03:51] <Scottbert> 'exports'? I guess I have a new term to google
[03:51] <jamie_1> http://termbin.com/k1yw dam \ getting in the way
[03:52] <Scottbert> Learning a lot getting linux working
[03:52] <jamie_1> Scottbert: im not sure if there is a gui way to do it, im used to working with servers
[03:52] <Ben_X> If you delete an app, will the icon disappear eventually from the applications menu?
[03:53] <Scottbert> There /was/ six years ago, you just right clicked a folder in dolphin and used the share tab and wysiwyg
[03:53] <Ben_X> I deleted ICQ but the icon is still in my applications menu
[03:53] <Scottbert> I haven't successfully shared ANY folder in 18.10, but I'm guessing that NTFS might introduce permissions issues?
[03:54] <jamie_1> Scottbert: i lied, thats a centos thing, let me find it for ubuntu
[03:54] <Scottbert> Holy shit someone still using ICQ. I never saw the need for people to split themselves up amongst aim, msn, yahoo, and so on... ICQ did the job, why make copies that don't talk to eachother
[03:55] <Ben_X> I downloaded it but it sucks
[03:55] <Scottbert> I'd have been using ICQ up until Discord came out if everyone didn't insist on using like ten different messaging programs
[03:55] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Reading - I be awhile.
[03:55] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: you're fine, im trying to help this gentlman with ntfs shares
[03:55] <Ben_X> I thought it would be like it was a few years ago but they changed it
[03:55] <tatertots> jamie_1: actually ect/exports or exports you might be confusing smb/nfs
[03:56] <tatertots> most likely
[03:56] <Scottbert> I honestly haven't used icq in many years because almost noone else I knew used it once aim came out
[03:56] <jamie_1> tatertots: dam you got me there.... has roughly the same outcome of sharing folders, just in a different way
[03:56] <tatertots> wow icq...dating yourself a bit there lol
[03:57] <jamie_1> im always mixing the two up due to working with nfs all the time at work
[03:57] <tatertots> jamie_1: yeah i could smell where you thought you were going
[03:57] <Ben_X> It doesn't even have chat rooms anymore
[03:57] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Humm still reading " 7.274] (++) using VT number 1" so far the GUI is in TTY1 ,
[03:57] <Scottbert> I haven't successfully shared ANY folder with samba in 18.10, but I'm guessing that NTFS might introduce permissions issues? I don't actually know -- since I can't even share a non-ntfs folder, I can't make a differential diagnosis.
[03:57] <tatertots> Ben_X: you just dated yourself too lol
[03:58] <jamie_1> tatertots: with nfs you just find the exports table, add the folder and the subnet you want to share to and then reload it and go to the other system and ask for it and if you want you can even set it as a permanent mount
[03:58] <jamie_1> i work with servers more than desktops XD
[03:59] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Odd one that I have never seen "systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card1 226:1 fd 12 paused".
[04:00] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: one sec... let me check which one is nvidia
[04:01] <jamie_1> hrm Bashing-om im not sure on that one, it supposed to be using card 1 (nvidia) and not using card 0 (intel) its the way its handling the hybrid gpu system to not cause fun stuff of trying to swap gpu's and instead to save power and swap to intel just reboot with intel
[04:02] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Yup .. Some new way that nvidia is switching as we have "(II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 226:1" .
[04:03] <jamie_1> its odd that its working fine for a new user but not mine, is there a way to remove the session based configs which would then generate a new one Bashing-om
[04:04] <jamie_1> i feel like it might be a config generated on the old system that is persisting after upgrade
[04:05] <tatertots> nice!..+10 pts for testing a different user account
[04:06] <jamie_1> tatertots: my like fifth thought was user based configs causing an issue, which it did turn out to be, but i dont know which ones would be doing it and i dont want to just start deleting stuff hoping for the best XD
[04:12] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: any fun ideas on what user config to start deleting
[04:12] <jamie_1> lol
[04:16] <jamie_1> know what.... were gonna move all my configs .* to old and restore the default user setups
[04:16] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Sorry, but no - I too am not familiar enough with an (u)buntu DE to know the config files, but yes I do agree it is an issue in the user session.
[04:19] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: that did the trick
[04:20] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Wut ? What did ever did you do ?
[04:20] <jamie_1> i did '  sudo mv .*  old   && cp -rT /etc/skel/ /home/jamie
[04:20] <jamie_1> have to set a lot of my programs back up, but ehh thats not the end of the world
[04:21] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Well ! .. and what is the DE you have ?
[04:21] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: pop
[04:21] <jamie_1> im not on ubuntu ubuntu, im on pop!_os but their support is kinda lackluster to say the least
[04:23] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: You lucked out . as pop is not supported here :) .. we are particular to the ubuntu family only.
[04:24] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: issue is getting my gpu to work on vanilla ubuntu is lucky at best
[04:24] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: also, why is that?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: For instance system76 makes changes we can not be aware of. How can we support something we know nothing about ?
[04:26] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: understandable
[04:31] <jamie_1> well now that my work laptop is back to working order, time for bed XD
[04:34] <Abdullah> 19.04 doesn't have live version?
[04:34] <Abdullah> I mean boot without installing it on hard drive?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> Abdullah: The desktop releases do have the live envirinment. What ISO are you booting ?
[04:36] <Abdullah> 19.04
[04:37] <leonardus> How do I upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Abdullah: 19.04 minimal, alternate, server di not have a GUI - live environments.
[04:39] <Abdullah> OK
[04:39] <Abdullah> Can we install some packages in live boot ?
[04:40] <Bashing-om> Abdullah: Yes, bit the medium os read only - the updates will not persist a reboot,
[04:40] <Bashing-om> but*
[04:41] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | leonardus
[05:21] <yov00> Hey guys, is this the place to ask some questions?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> yov00: if its ubuntu related, yes
[05:22] <yov00> Yes 18.04
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> yov00: shoot mate
[05:23] <yov00> Well, I am pretty new to Linux and I enjoy playing games, I've installed all the dirvers + DXVK and Esync but still my fps is nowhere near what it should be
[05:24] <yov00> What can I check or go to understand more about this
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> yov00: is your graphics driver installed?
[05:24] <yov00> Yes latest from SoftwareUpdater nvidia 418
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> yov00: wich nvidia chipset please?
[05:25] <yov00> wine 3.6.1
[05:25] <yov00> How can i check that
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> yov00: uname -a && sudo lshw -C video
[05:26] <yov00> 4.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> yov00: then the card chipset=
[05:27] <yov00> *-display UNCLAIMED
[05:27] <yov00>        description: VGA compatible controller
[05:27] <yov00>        product: GK107M [GeForce GT 755M]
[05:27] <yov00>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[05:27] <yov00>        physical id: 0
[05:27] <yov00>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> yov00: your card is an optimus, did you set nvidia-prime to performance mode?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> yov00: and where did you install your driver from?
[05:29] <yov00> Yes it's set to Nvidia performance mode
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> nice yov00
[05:29] <yov00> As far as I can remember from SUpdater
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> yov00: supdater?
[05:30] <yov00> Software Updater
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> yov00: lets have a look wich driver ubuntu reccomends= ubuntu-drivers list
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-driver-396
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-driver-410
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-driver-415
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-driver-418
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-driver-390
[05:31] <yov00> nvidia-340
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> yov00: did you add the ubuntu graphics ppa or so?
[05:33] <SrPx> Anyone uses Steam Link with an Ubuntu host? What is a good game to start the Steam Link so I can quickly exit to desktop? I couldn't find a reliable way to do that :(
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> !steam | SrPx
[05:33] <krytarik> yov00: You might want to start using a pastebin service.. >_>
[05:33] <yov00> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[05:33] <yov00> is that it ?
[05:33] <axy> Hello channel
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> yov00: yes, did you try a 390 yet to compare with 418?
[05:34] <axy> wondering if it's possible to set transition animation speeds in ubuntu
[05:34] <axy> there was something called compizconfig before but I believe it's not working any more in gnome
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> axy: on gnome & wayland, compiz doesnt work anymore
[05:34] <axy> lotuspsychje, I see
[05:34] <yov00> Nope I was at first when I switched to ubuntu but later while installing lutris I did updated it on 418
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> axy: if you want effects back, you need a flavor based on gnome2
[05:35] <axy> lotuspsychje, well I don2t want effects back
[05:35] <axy> I jsut want to disable or speed up the windows transitions
[05:35] <yov00> Okay I will try that after work thank you for your assistance and sry for the ignorant questions
[05:35] <axy> when I disable animations, the whole shell animations are gone, including the app drawer
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> axy: gnome3 doesnt work the same way/style as unity or gnome2 with compiz
[05:35] <axy> I just want to disable the weird stretchy window animations, they're pretty obvious when making the window fullscreen
[05:35] <axy> hm
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> axy: if you wanna start tweaking try: gnome-tweak-tool & dconf-editor
[05:36] <axy> lotuspsychje, checked both, they both seem to have one option for animations:
[05:36] <axy> enable/disable
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> yov00: thats what ubuntu is for, dont worry
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> axy: when i launch dconf-editor i have enable/disable animations
[05:38] <axy> lotuspsychje, yes same here
[05:38] <axy> no other settings
[05:38] <axy> when animations are disabled, thewy're gone for the whole shell
[05:38] <axy> I'm just annoyed by the window resizes
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> axy: what about if you search on keyword 'windows'
[05:39] <axy> hm
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> axy: few dconf settings there
[05:40] <Rembo> hello, does one of the following patches require reboot after patching? https://pastebin.com/iwwxkfVn
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: when your system needs a reboot after updates, it will notice you
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: unless you need any features on some program that also might need a reboot to become active
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: usually its not a bad thing to reboot once in a while
[06:04] <Smedles> hi all, installed disco as an upgrade to 18.10 but after booting, mouse point moves, but clicking does nothing, no keyboard input either
[06:04] <Smedles> booting from live USB and all is good
[06:04] <Smedles> any thoughts?
[06:20] <tatertots> i hear 19.04 is out
[06:21] <ledeni> tatertots, yes
[06:29] <martind_> hello guys
[06:30] <martind_> I wonder if I can assign different shortkeys for the standard copy/paste on my keyboard somewhere
[06:32] <jatt> tatertots: http://releases.ubuntu.com/disco/
[06:59] <papegaaij> hi all, yesterday I've upgraded kubuntu from 18.10 to 19.04 and now it seems my postgresql databases are all gone
[07:00] <papegaaij> as far as I remember, I was already running postgresql 11 before the upgrade, and I still have 11 after the upgrade, so it's not a version issue
[07:02] <papegaaij> looking in /var/lib/postgresql only shows a directory 11, which seems to contain the empty database I've got at the moment
[07:02] <papegaaij> is it possible that a dist upgrade wiped all my databases from my system?
[07:02] <ducasse> papegaaij: others have reported similar issues, aiui
[07:03] <papegaaij> ducasse: that would be a very serious issue then
[07:04] <ducasse> papegaaij: i would agree
[07:05] <papegaaij> is there a bug for this already?
[07:05] <ducasse> not afaik, feel free to create one
[07:08] <Geert> I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 18.04, in the installer I configure a manual IP (and the settings are correct), when I press `Done`, it goes back to step 1 (select language). How do I fix that? I tried several times, and even re-created the VM
[07:09] <Geert> I also checked the firewall logs, no IP packets where rejected
[07:09] <mouses> Geert: bad image?
[07:10] <mouses> did you checksum it?
[07:10] <Geert> No, but I'll do that, hang on :)
[07:12] <tatertots> Geert: does Auto/Automagic IP allow you to complete the installation?....you probably haven't tried that yet so you probably cannot answer that definitively
[07:12] <mouses> Geert: just in case!
[07:14] <Geert> Hmmm, seeems it's *-live-server* and not *-server. My bad xD
[07:15] <papegaaij> ducasse: how do i report bugs?
[07:16] <ducasse> !bug | papegaaij
[07:17] <papegaaij> ok, i've tried ubuntu-bug, but that command is totally bullshit
[07:18] <papegaaij> it starts with some options, and I say I want to report a problem with 'dist-upgrade', it then continues with: what kind of hardware issue do you have?
[07:19] <papegaaij> when I press cancel, the application just crashes
[07:19] <papegaaij> when i start with 'other problem', it continues with 'what kind of display problem do you have?'
[07:20] <papegaaij> and if i then say 'I don't know', it says: "Text" with yes, no cancel
[07:21] <papegaaij> do i press yes, no or cancel on 'text'?
[07:25] <caffee> papegaaij: go through as best as you can, it'll create a page you can add to later
[07:25] <ducasse> papegaaij: how exactly did you upgrade, btw?
[07:29] <papegaaij> I ran sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:30] <papegaaij> i've created this bug manually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-11/+bug/1825476
[07:31] <papegaaij> i can't get any meaningful out of ubuntu-bug, it just keeps asking totally irrelevant questions always ending with "Text"
[07:32] <OerHeks> how odd, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-11/11.2-1
[07:32] <OerHeks> oh, the data itself, not postgresql?
[07:33] <papegaaij> yes, the data is gone
[07:33] <papegaaij> all of it
[07:33] <papegaaij> the database directory was simply dropped and reinitialized
[07:35] <tatertots> surely you have a backup ?
[07:36] <papegaaij> well, sort of, but this is my developer laptop, and i don't create regular backups for my development stuff
[07:37] <OerHeks> good thing you reported this, i read something simular yesterday, but that was a claim about porstgresql-10..
[07:38] <papegaaij> well, this is going to ruin my day :(
[07:46] <MrElendig> always dump before upgrading
[07:46] <MrElendig> +postgres
[07:51] <papegaaij> MrElendig: well, that's something i've learned today, i've had trouble with upgrades before, but never had my entire database being overwritten with an empty one
[07:53] <papegaaij> it was all test and dummy data, but even that takes time to setup again
[07:55] <paul1us> hello, this is probably a silly question, but I was not able to find the answer online. I ran ps -ef and saw that there are many loopX processes running. X being a number from 0 to 63. is this normal? what are they for?
[07:57] <tatertots> snaps or whatever they call them now
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> !who | tatertots
[08:17] <deanc> does ubuntu not boot into the graphical desktop environment if a diswplay is not attached?
[08:17] <deanc> ive been running my machine just fine, setting up vnc on it etc with the idea it sits in the corner and i can vnc in. i now unplugged the monitor and booted, and vnc can connect but screen is black
[08:55] <ryahi_skaprinav> !isitoutyet
[08:59] <solsTiCe> hi. Using wl (broadcom-stat-dkms) driver, I can connect to any wifi AP. this fals with suppositdly wrong auth passphrase. anyone got that too? how to fix it ?
[08:59] <solsTiCe> s/can/can't/
[09:02] <solsTiCe> the AP log shows that authentication was goos
[09:22] <rudeguy> hello
[09:29] <JohnGavr> hey guys
[09:30] <JohnGavr> 19.04 is ready for use??
[09:30] <JohnGavr> any problem?
[09:32] <JellyfishJon> Hey I'm on 18.04 bionic ubuntu - bought a vps - issue where tmp file is using disk space up 100%
[09:33] <JellyfishJon> df -h Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev            713M     0  713M   0% /dev tmpfs           149M   20M  129M  14% /run /dev/vda1        48G   48G     0 100% / tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /dev/shm tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs           149M     0  149M   0% /run/user/0
[09:34] <JellyfishJon> i have ZERO knowledge of Linux at all. I'm trying to learn
[09:34] <EriC^^> !paste | JellyfishJon
[09:34] <qwebirc38681> Hello everyone
[09:34] <M_aD> JohnGavr: as with every just released OS or software it can contain bugs, just read the release notes
[09:34] <jeremy31> solsTiCe: That might be wifi power management causing that or maybe even having ufw enabled
[09:34] <qwebirc38681> I have a quick question if anyone has a bit of a time
[09:34] <JohnGavr> qwebirc38681: tell me
[09:35] <qwebirc38681> I made a bootable Ubuntu flash drive via macOS, but when I try to boot it on my other PC via boot menu, upon selecting the flash drive as a boot device, it boots back to Windows
[09:36] <JohnGavr> Which program you use for the flash?
[09:36] <qwebirc38681> balenaEther
[09:36] <qwebirc38681> balenaEtcher
[09:37] <JohnGavr> In other pc have you windows?
[09:37] <JellyfishJon>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38  	  Disk space usage 100% info:  xxxx@xxxx:~# df -h Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev            713M     0  713M   0% /dev tmpfs           149M   20M  129M  14% /run /dev/vda1        48G   48G     0 100% / tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /dev/shm tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lo
[09:37] <JellyfishJon> argh trying to text
[09:38] <JellyfishJon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qqCCJ8cWSg/
[09:39] <qwebirc38681> yeah JohnGavr
[09:39] <JohnGavr> Have you disable fastboot?
[09:40] <VictorJianfeiYeh> It seems that your disk space has been used up.
[09:40] <qwebirc38681> I didn't, should i do that via BIOS?
[09:40] <JohnGavr> fastboot on windows
[09:40] <JohnGavr> have you got win10?
[09:41] <qwebirc38681> I do have Windows10, but it's broken currently
[09:41] <qwebirc38681> It boots extremely slowly, takes about 15 minutes after entering my password
[09:41] <JellyfishJon> @victorjianfeiyeh how do i clear it out
[09:42] <qwebirc38681> Even though I use an M.2 SSD to boot
[09:42] <JohnGavr> the best solution is to format the disk
[09:42] <qwebirc38681> which one, the bootable USB?
[09:42] <qwebirc38681> you mean I should try again?
[09:42] <JohnGavr> with linux no
[09:43] <JohnGavr> if you dont disable fastboot and secureboot (on BIOS)
[09:43] <JohnGavr> you can't boot on USB
[09:43] <qwebirc38681> ohh okay
[09:43] <JohnGavr> IF you have Windows .iso, flash it to a USB
[09:43] <JohnGavr> do the format
[09:43] <JohnGavr> and if you want dual boot, first Windows and then Linux
[09:43] <VictorJianfeiYeh> That's not BIOS anymore, but UEFI.
[09:43] <VictorJianfeiYeh> UEFI supports secureboot
[09:44] <JohnGavr> VictorJianfeiYeh: so when we tell BIOS setup in new pc, we mean UEFI setup?
[09:45] <VictorJianfeiYeh> Sure
[09:46] <JohnGavr> Then the power of habit
[09:46] <VictorJianfeiYeh> New PC cancelled BIOS, and use UEFI instead. However, UEFI still has a "legacy" mode to be compatible to BIOS.
[09:46] <JellyfishJon> can someone tell me how to delete a tmp file folder that is using up 100% of my disk space? I can't do anything
[09:47] <VictorJianfeiYeh> Maybe you can install Linux and then Windows, but then you may need to repair the GNU GRUB if you want the dualboot.
[09:47] <JohnGavr> JellyfishJon: thank you for your info
[09:47] <VictorJianfeiYeh> If you install Windows and then Linux, it is automatically dualboot.
[09:47] <qwebirc38681> JohnGavr: yeah but I've been trying to get files off my Windows 10 before I do a resinstall
[09:47] <qwebirc38681> I don't wanna format it yet
[09:48] <qwebirc38681> that's why I am actually trying to get Ubuntu up and running
[09:48] <JohnGavr> I said what you need to do...
[09:48] <JohnGavr> Fastboot and secureboot disable
[09:48] <parclytaxel> Question: has anyone been affected by the install-info bug when upgrading to Ubuntu 19.04?
[09:48] <vlt> JellyfishJon: What did you do, what did you expect to happen and what happened instead?
[09:49] <JellyfishJon> I was just trying to run a bitcoin daemon, my own node
[09:49] <JellyfishJon> i went to install it
[09:49] <parclytaxel> Is it any serious, that bug? Do I need to do anything other than clear the unnecessary packages?
[09:49] <lapion> Hmm every form of upgrade to 19.04 or 18:10 breaks
[09:49] <JellyfishJon> and i see i can't write because it's already full (halfway through install)
[09:49] <qwebirc38681> right thanks
[09:50] <parclytaxel> (Of course I'm referring to bug 1823004 on the bug tracker)
[09:51] <VictorJianfeiYeh> can someone tell me how to delete a tmp file folder that is using up 100% of my disk space? I can't do anything
[09:51] <VictorJianfeiYeh> If you believe it is only `/tmp` that used up your space, why don't you run `rm -rf /tmp/*`?
[09:52] <VictorJianfeiYeh>  `rm -rf /tmp/*`
[09:53] <parclytaxel> Anyone?
[09:53] <VictorJianfeiYeh> It seems that Riot.im doesn't support markdown
[09:53] <JellyfishJon> victorjianfeiyeh --> you want me to post the output of     rm -rf /tmp/*  ?
[09:54] <qwebirc38681> okay soo JohnGavr, I can't see the option for FastBoot in BIOS, but my Secure Boot was already and USB Boot is also enabled
[09:54] <qwebirc38681> Secure Boot was already disabled*
[09:54] <JohnGavr> Fastboot is at windows OS
[09:54] <JohnGavr> not on bios
[09:54] <JellyfishJon> victorjianfeiyeh ---- i'm literally brand new to linux. I have a VPS and root using PuTTY for terminal. I just want to install a bitcoin node on it. And this damn disk space issue is happening
[09:55] <VictorJianfeiYeh> Oh, I see. Then it is very normal
[09:55] <qwebirc38681> but I can't boot into Windows to change in John
[09:55] <VictorJianfeiYeh> A botcoin node requires hundreds of GBs
[09:55] <JellyfishJon> Do I run the command you specified -- rm -rf /tmp/*
[09:56] <JellyfishJon> and that will fix it?
[09:56] <JohnGavr> i can't do something for that
[09:56] <JellyfishJon> That's fine.
[09:56] <JohnGavr> Maybe you lost the files...
[09:56] <JellyfishJon> I thought blockchain was 20 GB disk spac3
[09:56] <JellyfishJon> space
[09:56] <qwebirc38681> How unfortunate, can I do anything from the recovery menu?
[09:57] <parclytaxel> Overall my 19.04 installation (from 18.10) behaves fine, but is there something amiss?
[09:57] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: closer to 10 times that
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> VictorJianfeiYeh ---->If I run out of space that's fine, I'll buy more
[09:57] <qwebirc38681> I am able to access that, if I can use that to my advantage
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> I don't mind buying more - that's fine
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> But this is in tmp files
[09:57] <VictorJianfeiYeh> A bitcoin node stores everything of the mining and transaction history, which requires hundreds of GBs.
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> how do I clear it out
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> That's fine if that's true... but what about the tmp file?
[09:57] <Ben64> delete it
[09:57] <JellyfishJon> I can't even install the BASIC CLIENT
[09:58] <JellyfishJon> how do i delete it from root? I don't know basic commands :/
[09:58] <Ben64> rm
[09:58] <JellyfishJon> ok cool thanks
[09:58] <JellyfishJon> with RM command
[09:58] <Ben64> maybe you shouldn't be running bitcoin though?
[09:58] <JellyfishJon> this is what i should do "rm -rf /tmp/*" --- will remove all TMP files ?
[09:58] <JellyfishJon> I've used Bitcoin since before Mt Gox
[09:59] <Ben64> that will remove everything in /tmp
[09:59] <crunch31> hey guys. need ur help with removing desktop packages from my ubuntu server. i've been messing asround with some desktops and seem to be unable to remove them properly. ls -l /usr/share/xsessions still gives me 4 different desktops, though i've removed all the packages i installed previusly. any clue what to do?
[09:59] <JellyfishJon> sweeeet
[09:59] <JellyfishJon> thankks
[09:59]  * VictorJianfeiYeh sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/BjjxKGSTVksNEQQPiCyYwJLq >
[09:59] <JellyfishJon> Maybe i won't run full node -- but I can't even install basic client because of tmp error
[09:59] <JohnGavr> qwebirc38681: one other solution is to flash windows iso and do repair
[09:59] <VictorJianfeiYeh> I think your problem is just that you run out of space.
[09:59] <JohnGavr> maybe that solve your problem
[09:59] <parclytaxel> VictorJianfeiYeh: what did you just send?
[09:59] <JellyfishJon> Ok let me see
[10:00] <VictorJianfeiYeh> just copied from you pastebin
[10:00] <JellyfishJon> thanks
[10:00] <JellyfishJon> OK i will try. Thank you for the help. I will probably keep this as reference and chat here
[10:00] <JellyfishJon> VictorJianfeiYeh -- thanks
[10:00] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 ---- thank you for you too :)
[10:01] <qwebirc38681> oh JohnGavr, I was able to select to boot from USB via recovery menu, but it said "The sected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to Continue. Maybe I failed at the Ubuntu creation?
[10:02] <JohnGavr> have you flash 19.04?
[10:02] <VictorJianfeiYeh> Maybe you failed at the "secureboot" verification
[10:02] <qwebirc38681> Err no I flashed 18.04.2
[10:02] <lapion> JellyfishJon, I am no mining expert but I think the tmp location is where the miner stores it's processing data.....
[10:03] <qwebirc38681> VictorJianfeiYeh: I had that disabled if you are talking to me haha
[10:03] <VictorJianfeiYeh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#SECURE-BOOT
[10:03] <JellyfishJon> lapion -- oh ok...well, I hadn't even gotten to start it. I was just doing basic install. It wasn't mining or even turned on...I'm talking just the basic file package like .gz
[10:03] <JohnGavr> qwebirc38681: i think fast boot cancelled the process
[10:03] <JellyfishJon> I wasn't even able to install the basic client
[10:03] <qwebirc38681> Damnit, that could be the case
[10:04] <JellyfishJon> lapion ----> I've been using Bitcoin since before Mt. Gox and I take it as payment in my businesses.....I have done some front end development but really I know fuck all compared to you guys.
[10:04] <VictorJianfeiYeh> Fastboot may also be a problem.
[10:04] <lapion> JellyfishJon, are you sure you did not download the gz file from some nefarious site and your account i hacked ?
[10:04] <JellyfishJon> lapion ---> if it's an issue of disk space or anything ----> i have plenty of $ to upgrade
[10:04] <qwebirc38681> VictorJianfeiYeh: But I have no means to disable it, since I cannot boot into Windows
[10:04] <stevendale> Hi
[10:04] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: you don't need to even run it to get bitcoin sent to you
[10:05] <VictorJianfeiYeh> I have no idea.
[10:05] <JellyfishJon> lapion ---> yes, I'm sure. I'm not unintelligent but I just don't program or use Linux. I believe I got files from bitcoin.org
[10:05] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: i don't understand your goal
[10:05] <stevendale> !wtf | JellyFishjon
[10:05] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 ----> I'm standing up a blockchain explorer...I need to pull in data for my colleague in real time
[10:05] <stevendale> !language | JellyfishJon
[10:06] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: then you probably need more than a vps for that
[10:06] <JellyfishJon> Anyways, it doesn't matter. I just wanted a Linux question. I have the money and will power...just trying to learn. I'll get a full node stood up - if I need to buy more space etc then I'll do that. I don't care
[10:06] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 -----> Should I purchase a "dedicated server" package?
[10:06] <Ben64> yep, with a very quick ssd
[10:06] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 ----> If I gotta throw $100,000 straight up to get my blockchain explorer and data API
[10:06] <JellyfishJon> ben64 ---- then i'll do that
[10:07] <JellyfishJon> ben64 --- why do I need the quick ssd?
[10:07] <Ben64> if you're trying to search through 250GB of data in a reasonable amount of time
[10:07] <JellyfishJon> ben64 ---- i'm intelligent in some areas, retarded with the computer hardware nomenclature, anything serious in programming....don't know anything
[10:08] <stevendale> JellyfishJon, with 100K... make your own cryptocurrency
[10:08] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 ---- cool! This is helpful. I appreciate your help. I really want to learn this
[10:08] <JellyfishJon> stevendale ---> got almost 10 million usd equivalents :) maybe i will
[10:09] <JellyfishJon> stevendale --- to be clear too - I do not care about that money. I just want to start getting more involved. The blockexplorer and apis will be non-profit and to further the cause... i just thought I have to learn the sys admin and set up stuff in order to be confident in operating such a venture
[10:10] <Ben64> must be nice
[10:10] <JellyfishJon> stevendale -- money is important, but it's not important once you have enough for your basic needs and living
[10:10] <JellyfishJon> me working paycheck to paycheck -- or having a nest egg --- or having too much money ---- i'm still just as unhappy/happy --- i'm about the work, real value for the world
[10:11] <lapion> JellyfishJon, is the /tmp folder part of you quota ?
[10:11] <JellyfishJon> lapion - it might be. I will clear it out and then retry and see what happens
[10:11] <JellyfishJon> lapion --- *will clear out the temp with that comand
[10:12] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 --- as long as you're not a materialist and not income insecure ... it really doesn't matter that much. I'm early 30
[10:12] <lapion> JellyfishJon, maybe be that the /tmp folder is shared amongst all users of the host server in which case I would change hosting provider
[10:12] <Ben64> i am income insecure, so it does matter
[10:12] <JellyfishJon> ben64 --- early 30's ... i have clinical depression...so sometimes i wish i never had the $
[10:12] <qwebirc38681> If I insert the bootable Ubuntu flash drive back to Windows and it doesn't understand the file system, does that mean I messed up during the making of the bootable drive?
[10:13] <JellyfishJon> ben64 - if you're in here talking, i feel like you're smart. so not sure why you're having trouble
[10:13] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: because intelligence doesn't really correlate to earnings
[10:14] <lapion> JellyfishJon, check your quota on the system with the command quota
[10:14] <JellyfishJon> ben64 --- IMHO there's no such thing as intelligence -- and you get more money by being consistent and working hard. That's all i did
[10:14] <JellyfishJon> ok
[10:14] <JellyfishJon> lapion - sec
[10:14] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: doesn't work for everyone
[10:15] <Ben64> i've worked hard for the past 17 years, and i'm not sure if i'll be able to pay for rent in a month or so
[10:15] <JellyfishJon> ben64 -- why not? we have a saying where I'm from "The grind don't lie" --- you do need to be a team player and work with others well though...that's a significant handicap if you can't work with others
[10:16] <JellyfishJon> ben64 - why not?
[10:16] <Ben64> it's just how things turn out sometimes
[10:16] <JellyfishJon> lapion - i don't have the command quota
[10:16] <RonaldsMazitis> hello, anybody knows how to use LMMS with AKAI mpd218 drum pad?
[10:17] <lapion> okay then do: ls -la /tmp
[10:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I have problem assigning pads to correct samples
[10:17] <Ben64> I don't think it's a quota thing, it's a big file taking up all the space, either real or deleted but held open by a process
[10:17] <cfhowlett> qwebirc38681, possibly.  you should verify both the downloaded .iso and the usb you created.
[10:17] <lapion> JellyfishJon, and check of all files are owned by your vps username..
[10:17] <lapion> *if
[10:18] <cfhowlett> RonaldsMazitis, #opensoucemusicians
[10:18] <RonaldsMazitis> it seems to understand which pad I press as it plays different note but I need it to assigned to just one note
[10:18] <RonaldsMazitis> cfhowlett: nobody on that channel
[10:18] <cfhowlett> you might get lucky on #ubuntustudio
[10:19] <JellyfishJon> Hey VictorJianfeiYeh --- do i have to put sudo infront of rm -rf /tmp/*
[10:20] <JellyfishJon> lapion - you want me to pastebin that output
[10:20] <JellyfishJon> lapion - of this "ls -la /tmp"
[10:20] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 - Seems you lost hope. It's just not true "it's just how things turn out sometimes" --- it's always a series of events that gets you there
[10:21] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 -- most of my childhood friends are dead, i'm early 30's ...if that gives you any context of the environment i came from. I just don't agree with your sentiment
[10:22] <qwebirc79363> I have a server at home ( ubuntu 18.04 ) there have two nicks ( have a connection in two networks ). How do I set wich nick there should be default route for it
[10:23] <Ben64> JellyfishJon: some things happen out of your control, i haven't given up hope, but the idea that if you work hard you will succeed is not a realistic one
[10:23] <JellyfishJon> lapion -- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fX5ffnymKj/
[10:24] <JellyfishJon> lapion -- that's output of command "ls -la /tmp" ran from root
[10:24] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 -- what do you think is more realistic? You work hard and don't make progress, you can NOT work hard and make progress, or if you keep working hard you'll make progress
[10:25] <JellyfishJon> ben64 --- i would say (if im being a presumptive jerk) is that you are not persisting in your struggle to advance
[10:25] <JellyfishJon> ben64 - if i was being cynical, i would assume that you and I have a different definition of 'hard work'
[10:26] <JellyfishJon> ben64 - still might not be true. i am just trying to motivate you. seems you have lost hope, that's all. I would encourage you to keep trying - fight for the light :)
[10:26] <Ben64> I think your view is skewed by your success
[10:27] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 - How so? I work hard still.
[10:27] <Ben64> I didn't say you didn't
[10:27] <jeremy31> When did this turn into #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:27] <JellyfishJon> Ben64 --- btw - being busy and tired all the time from doing things...is not the same as 'hard work' --- busy work is not hard, just time consuming
[10:28] <JellyfishJon> ben64 -- i am hiring. if you have a resume and are in the IT space or have that skillset - I can talk with you and look at it.
[10:29] <JellyfishJon> ben64 - I want to give others opportunities because I know it's hard sometimes and you get beat down by others. maybe you can help me with your skills and I can give you more income for that
[10:29] <Ben64> Well I might need work fairly soon hah
[10:30] <JellyfishJon> hey I will PM you and I can give you my email
[10:42] <ddoobb> what happened to #linux that it's invite only?
[10:42] <Ben64> it's ##linux
[10:43] <ddoobb> thanks ben64
[10:43] <snadge> is there any way to get my desktop icons back, and make the window titles thinner?
[10:45] <ryahi_skaprinav> snadge: Which ubuntu version are you using?
[10:45] <ddoobb> I'm a novice programmer and I want to start using a more serious IDE (currently using the text editor and terminal). Can you guys recommend a good IDE (ideally not language specific) and do basic debugging?
[10:46] <snadge> i upgraded from 18.10 to 19.04
[10:46] <ryahi_skaprinav> snadge: Use gnome-tweaks then
[10:50] <Alliesz> hi
[10:50] <Blankspace> hi i installed ngrok
[10:50] <vlt> ddoobb: I personally just use vim and a few plugins, but have heard great things about PyCharm.
[10:51] <Blankspace> i want to uninstall iy
[10:51] <Blankspace> it
[10:51] <Blankspace> how can i do it.
[10:51] <Blankspace> i dont knw to use ubuntu
[10:53] <ryahi_skaprinav> Blankspace: Type "sudo apt-get remove ngrok" in the terminal
[10:53] <legreffier> ddoobb: My co-workers are quite happy about vscode and pycharm. but they're python-focused.
[10:54] <legreffier> I can recommand atom, but it's not a full IDE
[10:54] <Blankspace> it says unable to locate package
[10:55] <Blankspace> how do i remove
[10:56] <ddoobb> legreffier can atom tell me the values of the variables during debugging
[10:56] <legreffier> Blankspace: how did you install it ?
[10:57] <Blankspace> i followed this https://dashboard.ngrok.com/get-started
[10:59] <Blankspace> any help?
[11:00] <legreffier> ddoobb: https://atom.io/packages/atom-ide-debugger-python with this package it should work
[11:01] <legreffier> Blankspace: just remove the folder and the zip file you downloaded
[11:01] <Blankspace> i am not able to locate it
[11:02] <ddoobb> thanks legreffier i'll take a look. In general am I likely to find such packages for other popular languages? I'm probably going to be using a lot of C, C++, R in the near future.
[11:02] <Blankspace> :(
[11:10] <legreffier> Blankspace: can you still launch it ?
[11:10] <Blankspace> yes
[11:11] <Blankspace> all my files are accessible on the net
[11:19] <coffeeguy> !ubotto install qt
[11:20] <coffeeguy> !ubotto qt
[11:21] <coffeeguy> hmm trying to install qt5 on ubuntu 19.04 with wget and it's saying not found 404, also did that for intsalling bluecherry  with wget , addy not found
[11:23] <coffeeguy> hehe maybe it's too early in the morning ;P
[11:27] <coffeeguy> nm figured it out
[11:28] <jeremy31> !qt
[11:30] <amr00t> am using remmina rdp/ssh client i want to use ssh identity file but when i browse to the folder it seems remmina can't access .ssh to add location/file to ird_sa
[11:34] <amr00t> am using remmina rdp/ssh client i want to use ssh identity file but when i browse to the folder it seems remmina can't access .ssh to add location/file to ird_sa
[11:36] <tomreyn> amr00t: when you run "ls -l ~/.ssh", do you files or directories owned by soemone other than your own user?
[11:36] <amr00t> tomreyn: no it is owned by me
[11:37] <tomreyn> amr00t: do you run remmina as root / with sudo (you should not)?
[11:37] <amr00t> tomreyn:  ls -lia 37486964 drwxrwx--x  2 amroot amroot 4096 Apr 19 11:42 .ssh
[11:38] <DVDARE> after leaving my ubuntu machine without iptable rules over night, now all my text is shown as braille
[11:38] <DVDARE> is there a comandline comand to fix?
[11:38] <tomreyn> amr00t: that'S not what i asked you to run, why do you post it?
[11:38] <amr00t> tomreyn: i have even tried given permission to 777 still fails i think it is with .ssh
[11:39] <amr00t> tomreyn: sorry i'm just showing you the permission to be sure also i just lauch remmina from apps/dashboard
[11:40] <tomreyn> amr00t: you can   chmod 700 .ssh
[11:40] <tomreyn> amr00t: other users should have no access at all there
[11:41] <tomreyn> now what about the file in there?
[11:42] <tomreyn> i usually do    chmod -R g-rwx,o-rwx ~/.ssh
[11:42] <tomreyn> that's a bit more strict than necessary, but usually works
[11:42] <amr00t> tomreyn: i still can't access the folder .ssh permission denied only when i access it through remmina browse
[11:43] <tomreyn> amr00t: please answer the questions i asked before.
 amr00t: do you run remmina as root / with sudo (you should not)?
[11:44] <amr00t> tomreyn: i don't run it as root
[11:44] <amcsi> help, I just upgraded from Ubuntu 18.10 to 19.04, and now there's a weird bug where if I open Activities, a popup saying a "System program problem detected" appears, but I can't click any of the buttons, and none of my open applications respond to mouse or keyboard events anymore :(
[11:46] <tomreyn> amr00t: ok. can you run remmina from a terminal window and see if it outputs any additional warnings / errors *to this temrinal windows* when it reports the "can't access .ssh" error / warning as a graphical message?=
[11:46] <tomreyn> amcsi: hmm, that's a bummer. did the upgrade seem to complete without errors?
[11:47] <amr00t> tomreyn: i run from terminal and no errors
[11:47] <tomreyn> amcsi: can you post this, run in a terminal?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[11:47] <amcsi> tomreyn, no, it said some package like <iforgotwhat>-info was not successful
[11:47] <amcsi> but it looked minor to me
[11:48] <tomreyn> amr00t: can you post a screenshot of the remmina window by the time you try to access ~/.ssh from it?
[11:49] <tomreyn> amcsi: ok. so the upgrade failed somewhere in between or it reported success after reporting this message?
[11:49] <amcsi> https://termbin.com/0kp2
[11:49] <tomreyn> looks like the upgrade did succeed for the most part
[11:49] <amcsi> I don't remember, just that this was near the end of the installation in the gui
[11:49] <tomreyn> amcsi: please also post this:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[11:50] <tomreyn> this reports on the state of your apt repositories and package database.
[11:50] <amcsi> tomreyn, okay, but I have to type it in by hand in Ctrl+Alt+F3, because I can't use anything in the GUI :/
[11:51] <tomreyn> amcsi: sorry, we can shorten this.
[11:51] <tomreyn> amcsi: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:52] <tomreyn> amcsi: apt-cache policy 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:52] <amcsi> https://termbin.com/vx9y
[11:52] <tomreyn> amcsi: sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:53] <amr00t> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/dQNk9gV here is the img
[11:53] <amcsi> tomreyn,
[11:53] <tomreyn> amcsi: and finally: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:54] <amcsi> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/ztml
[11:54] <tomreyn> amr00t: i noticed your first paste, thanks. sorry for making you type so much, but it'll help tremendously in getting a better picture of the state of your system.
[11:54] <tomreyn> 2nd paste, too
[11:54] <amcsi> it's alright. I'm sure it helps.
[11:55] <tomreyn> amr00t: looking
[11:55] <amr00t> tomreyn: okay
[11:55] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you running?
[11:56] <amcsi> 19.04 now
[11:56] <tomreyn> what's the output of this now?  ls -ld .ssh/
[11:56] <amr00t> tomreyn: it is Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS.
[11:56] <amcsi> drwx------ ... attila attila ... .ssh
[11:57] <amcsi> tomreyn
[11:57] <tomreyn> amcsi: thanks, i was talking to amr00t there, though. i should have made this more obvious.
[11:58] <amcsi> oh, I just thought you were mistyping my name :P people do that
[11:58] <stevendale> UpTime	21590 sec (0 days, 5 hours, 59 min, 50 sec)
[11:58] <ioria> amcsi, why you have not run  'sudo apt autoremove --purge' yet ?
[11:59] <amr00t> tomreyn: output is:  drwx------ 2 amroot amroot 4096 Apr 19 12:22 .ssh/
[11:59] <amcsi> ioria, cause noone and nothing told me to do so
[11:59] <tomreyn> ioria: amcsi just upgraded to 19.04, and the upgrade didnt get to clean up due to an error.
[11:59] <ioria> amcsi, apt told you that .... run again   sudo apt-full upgrade
[11:59] <tomreyn> amr00t: thanks, i will try to reproduce this shortly.
[12:00] <ioria> amcsi,    sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:00] <amr00t> tomreyn: thanks
[12:00] <stevendale> ioria It's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <tomreyn> ioria: please note that apt only told amcsi just now that i had her or him run these commands.
[12:01] <Ido370> just apt is enough :)
[12:01] <stevendale> apt-get doesn't overcrowd it with fancy colors
[12:01] <stevendale> and doesn't have a silly progress bar at the bottom
[12:01] <Ido370> i prefer the progress bar :)
[12:01] <ioria> amcsi,    you see this line ? Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[12:01] <amcsi> tomreyn, ioria: the dist-upgrade command says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:02] <amcsi> and exited
[12:02] <amcsi> ioria, I have since you told me to
[12:02] <stevendale> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[12:02] <amcsi> did that
[12:02] <ioria> amcsi,    now, run  sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:03] <amcsi> ioria, I got the same result
[12:03] <stevendale> did he do an apt update first ioria
[12:03] <amcsi> no I haven't
[12:03] <stevendale> amcsi: sudo apt-get update
[12:03] <ioria> amcsi,   any other packages to remove ?
[12:03] <amcsi> stevendale, I have just now, but even after that, I'm still getting the same result for dist-upgrade and full-upgrade
[12:04] <amcsi> it probably considers that I am already upgraded
[12:04] <amcsi> I already did the purge, ioria
[12:04] <ioria> amcsi,   ok paste   ls -al /var/crash
[12:05] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows why I can't joint #lmms
[12:05] <RonaldsMazitis> I have logged in my irc account still can't
[12:05] <amcsi> ioria, theres install-info.0.crash and nvidia-dkms-415.0.crash, both from recently
[12:06] <ioria> amcsi,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia  | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:06] <RonaldsMazitis> if anybody knows how to configure AKAI MPD218 on ubuntu join #ubuntustudio to help me
[12:07] <ioria> amcsi,  just a tip; if you have nvidia drivers in use, and perform an upgrade would be better remove and reinstall them
[12:07] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/81u1
[12:07] <deadmarshal> hi, i want to capture sound from soundwire application but nothing is showing in recording tab of pulse audio control. what should i do? the audio is streaming and the bars go up and down.
[12:08] <ioria> amcsi,  you see  415.27-0ubuntu0~gpu18.10.1   ?
[12:08] <amcsi> I'll try restarting now btw to see if my Ubuntu got fixed so far
[12:08] <ioria> amcsi,  still for cosmic 18.10
[12:08] <ioria> amcsi,  not 19.04
[12:08] <amcsi> ioria, yeah
[12:09] <amcsi> what can I do about it?
[12:09] <ioria> amcsi,  purge and reinstall
[12:09] <amcsi> how?
[12:09] <amr00t> tomreyn: i installed remmina from "Ubuntu Software" for some reason it installed two remmina one with "green and blue" icon the other with "blue and black"... i was using the green and blue one. But i removed it from ubuntu software and installed remmina from terminal using sudo apt-get install remmina it installed just the "blue and black" icon remmina and it works now
[12:10] <amcsi> By the way, after logging in, I'm always greeted by an alert dialog saying "Are you sure you want to proceed?" with an OK button
[12:10] <amcsi> my cursor looking like an X
[12:11] <ioria> amcsi,  usually the ppas are removed when you do-release-upgrade, so you need to renable again the ppa
[12:11] <tomreyn> amr00t: ooh right, i hadn't thought of this. so one of them, probably the one which didn't work, is a "snap". this is a new alternative pacakging format to deb / apt.
[12:11] <ioria> amcsi,  look at /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:11] <amcsi> ioria, ok, but what do I do now that it didn't?
[12:12] <Raqbit> Hi! Just upgraded to 19.04 and the dock is opaque now, which I've heard is the way it should be.  I'm having an issue though, where closing a maximized windows animates the dock to transparency and then back to opaque. I've tried fiddling with the ubuntu dash-to-dock but couldn't find a related setting. Does anyone else have this issue or know wher
[12:12] <Raqbit> e I should look?
[12:12] <ioria> amcsi,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:12] <tomreyn> amr00t: i installed remmina from apt and it does work here. if you want to proiimarily use deb/apt packages (the classic packages), you can install the synaptic application which let's you manage these grphically. or learn using the "apt" command on a temrinal.
[12:13] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/k92x
[12:13] <qwebirc74629> Hey, quick question
[12:13] <tomreyn> amr00t: so, glad you solved it - without my help ;-)
[12:13] <qwebirc74629> If I am booting from a flash drive, how long does it take for ubuntu to load
[12:14] <ioria> amcsi,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-cosmic.list
[12:14] <qwebirc74629> because I am not sure if it's stuck or it just takes a while
[12:14] <jil> hello,
[12:14] <amr00t> tomreyn: i got back to ubuntu after years since mac messed me up 2days ago i left for good... so this "snap" has limitation so why was it introduced when apt-get does work?
[12:14] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/hmam
[12:14] <jil> Is there a package repository with an updated version of LaTeX ?
[12:16] <ioria> amcsi,  ok, this symbol '#' means that the ppa has been disabled .... but the drivers file are still installed ; so remove the symbole and use ppa-purge to remove the ppa
[12:16] <amcsi> ioria, I don't know how to use ppa-purge
[12:16] <ioria> !info ppa-purge
[12:16] <amcsi> I should uncomment those lines though?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:18] <qwebirc74629> Hello
[12:18] <ioria> amcsi,  i don't remember exactly if   ppa-purge can work with a disabled ppa ; try  and if it fails re-enable the ppa
[12:18] <amcsi> ioria, it says ppa-purge command not found
[12:18] <tomreyn> amr00t: i could speculate on the reasoning but that's not the place to do so, we only do support here. there is #ubuntu-discuss and -offtopic also
[12:18] <amcsi> and besides, I don't know which ppa to disable
[12:18] <ioria> amcsi,  sudo apt install ppa-purge
[12:19] <tomreyn> amr00t: generally speaking, snap handles some situations apt / deb is less well suited for.
[12:20] <qwebirc74629>   
[12:20] <ioria> amcsi,  and  sudo ppa-purge ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[12:20] <tomreyn> amr00t: snap lets you use newer software versions with less tight integration into the system, which can be a good thing (security, package dependencies) and a bad thing (usability, as you've seen).
[12:20] <qwebirc74629> What do I do if my ubuntu loading freezes? I am using a flash drive to boot
[12:21] <qwebirc74629> Should I select boot with safe graphics?
[12:21] <amr00t> tomreyn: okay, thanks for your help
[12:21] <tomreyn> qwebirc74629: yes, give this a try.
[12:21] <amcsi> ioria, ok, done
[12:22] <tomreyn> amr00t: you're welcome.
[12:22] <ioria> amcsi,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia  | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:23] <amcsi> ioria, by the way I have changed my graphics driver to the ubuntu one from nvidia since then, and then was able to purge most of the nvidia packages, but there are still some left. I'll show you the termbin.com link in a moment
[12:23] <ioria> ok
[12:23] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/izys
[12:24] <c1fr4> Hi everyone
[12:24] <ioria> amcsi,  sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-390 libnvidia-compute-415 nvidia-compute-utils-415 nvidia-dkms-415
[12:25] <tomreyn> !ppa | jil
[12:25] <tomreyn> the search there might help
[12:25] <ioria> amcsi,  after that, see if you still have a xorg.conf file  (locate xorg.conf)
[12:26] <amcsi> ioria, that's only 4 of them, is that intentional?
[12:26] <amcsi> oh nvm, the colon bit confused me. there's actually just 4 types
[12:28] <amcsi> ioria, I still have the libnvidia-compute-390:i386 one left. I don't know why it's not removing it
[12:28] <tomreyn> amcsi: when ioria and you are done, ping me again to help you wade through and maybe remove those "no longer downloadable" packages you have installed as per https://termbin.com/ztml
[12:28] <tomreyn> (but finish with the nvidia stuff first)
[12:28] <ioria> amcsi,  sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-390:i386
[12:29] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: i think the recording tab of pulse audio would only show something if you were currently recording something.
[12:29] <amcsi> ioria, thanks, now there's nothing nvidia left
[12:29] <ioria> amcsi,  after that, see if you still have a xorg.conf file  (locate xorg.conf)
[12:30] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: i.e. you'd need to run an application which can record the audio, and once it does, i think this would show there
[12:31] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: i want to hear the voice of the video that is playing by soundwire. what should i do? i output devices tab stereo has sound
[12:31] <deadmarshal> but soundwire won't connect
[12:31] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: it's also possible that the wrong input device is set for recording
[12:32] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: what should i set it to?
[12:32] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: i don't know what soundwire is. is this an ubuntu application? which ubuntu version are oyu on?
[12:32] <tomreyn> !info soundwire
[12:32] <amcsi> ioria, yeah there are some. I'm working on getting it to you
[12:32] <ioria> amcsi,  paste them
[12:32] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: soundwire is an app. http://georgielabs.net/
[12:33] <deadmarshal> i'm on ubuntu 19.04
[12:33] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/qsvt
[12:34] <ioria> amcsi, no, it's ok : paste   ls /etc/modprobe.d
[12:35] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: does it work when you play back the video using a supported software?
[12:37] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: i haven't use any other software other than this. on earlier ubuntu versions it worked fine tough.
[12:37] <ioria> amcsi,  ls /etc/modprobe.d  | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:38] <qualcuno> i'm the creator of the universe
[12:38] <amcsi> ioria, https://termbin.com/eqxo
[12:39] <ioria> amcsi, ok, do you want nvidia again ?
[12:39] <amcsi> ioria, yes please
[12:39] <ioria> amcsi, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[12:40] <amcsi> by the way, I'll do a restart again to see if these things so far fixed my issues
[12:41] <qwebirc21330> Hello again
[12:41] <ioria> amcsi, better to reinsall nviida, depending on your gpu you might be gretted by a black screen
[12:41] <qwebirc21330> Soo, I successfully booted to Ubuntu and I am trying to access files from my PC
[12:41] <amcsi> ioria, too late, we'll see :D
[12:41] <ioria> ok
[12:41] <qwebirc21330> Though I can only see my HD files and not M.2 SSD, does anyone know what's up
[12:42] <amcsi> no black screen, but I'm still getting the same issues
[12:42] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: okay, try with totem
[12:42] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: or vlc
[12:43] <ioria> amcsi, the issue about 'Activities' ?
[12:43] <amcsi> by the way, I wonder if just removing some local config files in my home directory would fix the things
[12:43] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: which application are you using to record the audio?
[12:43] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: i'm was trying with vlc before
[12:43] <amcsi> like removing the gnome extension I have for workspaces
[12:43] <ioria> amcsi, ot the error pop-ups ?
[12:43] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: soundwire should capture audio and send it to my android phone
[12:44] <ioria> amcsi,  to get rid of them you need to clean the /var/crash directory
[12:44] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: pulse audio control is also installed
[12:44] <amcsi> ioria, yes, but mainly as soon as I open up Activities, I can't use the GUI anymore
[12:44] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: okay, seek support from the developer of this soundwire software.
[12:44] <qwebirc21330> anyone has any ideas?
[12:44] <tomreyn> deadmarshal: we don't support it here
[12:44] <deadmarshal> tomreyn: ok
[12:45] <ioria> amcsi,  lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:45] <qwebirc21330> soo does anyone have an idea haha
[12:46] <qwebirc21330> I will repeat though
[12:46] <amcsi> ioria, any reason why you're suspecting this is caused by graphics? I have a feeling it does not have to do with it
[12:46] <qwebirc21330> I booted into Ubuntu and I am trying to access my files, when I go to "Other Locations" my HD is detected, but my SSD isn't, anyone knows whats up?
[12:46] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: so you have ubuntu installed on a HDD, and you also have an m.2 SSD, and both contain file systems with different data on them. is all of this correct?
[12:46] <ioria> amcsi,  a step at a time
[12:47] <tomreyn> !patience | qwebirc21330
[12:47] <qwebirc21330> not exactly, I have Ubuntu running on a flash drive, i have HDD for storage and SSD which has a rogue Windows10 installed
[12:47] <qwebirc21330> yeah sorry, I am really new to all thi
[12:47] <ioria> amcsi,  btw, yes extension no more supported can cuase some trobles
[12:48] <ioria> *cause
[12:48] <amcsi_> ioria, https://termbin.com/vylzx
[12:48] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: ok, that's fine. so you have windows installe don the SSD and you're trying to access the data there, right?
[12:49] <qwebirc21330> yeah! but I can't boot into it anymore, it boots extremelly slow out of no where
[12:49] <ioria> amcsi,  cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)
[12:49] <amcsi> ioria, how do I remove it tho? I don't know what the CLI command is to open the GUI with the gnome extensions
[12:49] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: the ssd with windows on it? this would be a ##windows issue, which we cannot help with here.
[12:49] <amcsi> I can't use Activities, because it makes my GUI unusable
[12:50] <ioria> amcsi,  for extensions you use  gnome-tweaks
[12:50] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: but we can see if we can access the data from ubuntu
[12:50] <ioria> amcsi,  cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)
[12:50] <qwebirc21330> yeah, that would be great tomreyn
[12:50] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: are you familiar with working with a terminal?
[12:50] <qwebirc21330> I barely know how to handle very basic cmd on Windows, soo not really
[12:50] <qwebirc21330> sorry
[12:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: that's fine, i'll guide. please open a terminal window by pressing ctrl-alt-t.
[12:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: did this work?
[12:51] <qwebirc21330> got it!
[12:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: now type this and press enter:  lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: make sure you have no typos there. you can also copy and paste it from the chat
[12:52] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: if things go ywell you'll receive a http address you can then post here
[12:52] <qwebirc21330> right, but I am doing this on two seperate PCs, not sure how I write | symbol
[12:53] <qwebirc21330> I could technically connect to this channel from that PC though
[12:53] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: yes, that'd be a good idea
[12:54] <qwebirc79363> ubottu: just to be curius do you know why some questions on askubuntu gets down voted even when there is no answers
[12:54] <qwebirc21330> I have IRC client on the PC that I am fixing, sorry for the inconvinience!
[12:54] <grkblood13> whenever I try to use apt its failing with pulling from ubuntu repos saying "Could not connect to 192.168.1.1:8080". Any idea how to clear out whatever is causing this. sudo apt clean and sudo apt update dont seem to be helping.
[12:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc21330: so switch to that and we can continue then
[12:54] <qwebirc79363> sorry were to tomreyn
[12:55] <tomreyn> qwebirc79363: i wasn't talking to you there.
[12:55] <ioria> amcsi, you can also list extension (locally) with  ls /home/$USER/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[12:55] <amcsi> ioria, seems like I was able to fix the entire issue just by uninstalling the workspace grid gnome extension
[12:56] <ioria> amcsi, ah, ok ... if you want nvidia again enable the ppa
[12:56] <amcsi> alright, I'll do that
[12:56] <ioria> amcsi, and tomreyn wanted to help you removinf some stuff , i guess
[12:57] <tomreyn> qwebirc79363: there's a chat for askubuntu here: https://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=askubuntu.com
[12:58] <tomreyn> qwebirc79363: the people here don't run it, so we don't know hoiw it works exactly
[12:58] <tomreyn> grkblood13: this sounds like you have a local apt proxy configured.
[12:58] <ioria> amcsi, and check  the Grid extension page...  the comments in particular : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
[12:58] <Mystified> hey guys what disk partitioning do i need to do to install ubuntu on bios gpt drive not mbr
[12:59] <grkblood13> tomreyn, how would I remove it?
[12:59] <tomreyn> grkblood13: the same way you put it there initially. it is probably configured somewhere in /etc/apt
[12:59] <qwebirc44481> Hello tomreyn! I switched to Ubuntu PC!
[12:59] <amcsi> ioria, yeah, I just saw :(
[13:00] <ioria> amcsi,  no 3.32 version
[13:00] <grkblood13> tomreyn, i looked in there. no mention of a local repo
[13:00] <amcsi> that's a big shame
[13:00] <amcsi> damn, I won't be able to have 2x2 grids anymore :(
[13:00] <tomreyn> qwebirc44481: good. can you change your nickname to something unique first of all? just think of a unique nickname and type:   /nick MyNewUniqueNickname
[13:01] <tomreyn> qwebirc44481: don't make it that long though
[13:01] <amcsi> ioria, thanks for all your help!
[13:01] <ioria> amcsi,  no problem
[13:01] <tomreyn> grkblood13: local proxy server, not local repositoriy.
[13:01] <Catzzye> done and done!
[13:01] <ioria> tomreyn, we are done here
[13:02] <tomreyn> Catzzye: very well, now run the command i suggested earlier:  lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:02] <tomreyn> ioria: thanks.
[13:03] <tomreyn> amcsi: so you probably still have some packages to clean up. if you like to look into this, post the output of this again, please:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:03] <Catzzye> okay, I got a link tomreyn
[13:03] <tomreyn> Catzzye: okay, post it here
[13:03] <qwebirc79363> tomreyn: True but you cant chat there and also unfortunally that does also not help with my issue on ubuntu
[13:03] <Catzzye> https://termbin.com/nf5s
[13:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc79363: you could also ask your ubuntu question here.
[13:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc79363: personally i can't help right now, though
[13:04] <amcsi> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/vwuo
[13:05] <amcsi> yeah, just a couple of stuff xD
[13:05] <qwebirc79363> tomreyn: well I have tried to ask it two times
[13:06] <tomreyn> Catzzye: so indeed ubuntu only sees two storages. sdb, which is probably the usb stick / flash media you booted off, and sda, which contains the files you see under /media/ubuntu/Media and /media/ubuntu/Data. but you expected to see more than that?
[13:06] <tomreyn> !patience | qwebirc79363
[13:07] <Catzzye> tomreyn: Yeah, there is supposed to be a M.2 SSD which has WIndows 10 installed on it, so maybe thats why its not showing, not really sure
[13:07] <ChunkzZ> !patience | tomreyn
[13:07] <tomreyn> amcsi: a lot really
[13:07] <tomreyn> ChunkzZ: ?
[13:08] <ChunkzZ> tomreyn, it's annoying am I right....
[13:08] <amcsi> do I need to remove these?
[13:08] <tomreyn> ChunkzZ: if you would like to discuss, as you have been told before, the place to do so is in #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss (if its about ubuntu)
[13:09] <JimBuntu> qwebirc79363, questions get downvoted commonly because answers are too easily searched for, enough detail isn't given in the question or also if they simply don't make sense as a question. That's not really a question for this channel though, as far as I think.
[13:09] <tomreyn> amcsi: yes, you should probably either remove all of them or make sure you have a repository confdigured which provides these, so that you can get updates.
[13:10] <qwebirc79363> well the answer is not easily searched because netplan refuses to fix it and have not found any way around it in 18.04
[13:10] <tomreyn> amcsi: those packages listed under "No longer downloadable" are versions which were provided, by third parties, for your previous ubuntu version. they are probably not compatible to your current ubuntu release.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, annoying for you maybe, but totally necessary for the supporters, who by the way are volunteers
[13:10] <ChunkzZ> qwebirc79363, what's your issue?
[13:12] <qwebirc79363> ChunkzZ: someone calls it multi home ( where there is nedded that one specific connection is the gateway ). and the examples about dhcp4-overrides in netplan on 10.04 LTS does not work
[13:12] <tomreyn> Catzzye: hmm, the ssd should still have shown. for somereason it seems that ubuntu did not detect it. maybe you have it set to a special mode in your mainboard firmware, which only works with windows.
[13:12] <amcsi> tomreyn, I'll probably worry about them when they turn out not to work, or if I need to upgrade them
[13:13] <Catzzye> tomreyn: Thats worrysome, could it be broken? I still have no idea if it is, Ive hard time trying to diagnose it
[13:13] <tomreyn> Catzzye: if you like, you can post your system journal and i can take a look later (will take me a while, maybe an hour), to get a better idea why the ssd is not available. to do so, you'd run this command:  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:14] <BluesKaj> !eol | 10.04 qwebirc79363
[13:14] <Catzzye> tomreyn: of course, thank you so much
[13:14] <tomreyn> amcsi: the point is that you'll not get upgrades for these, and they can actually prevent other packages from upgrading, and from installing properly.
[13:15] <qwebirc79363> BluesKaj: I'm on 18.04 not 10.04
[13:15] <amcsi> thanks tomreyn, I'll keep that in mind
[13:15] <BluesKaj> qwebirc79363, quote " netplan on 10.04 LTS does not work"
[13:15] <qwebirc79363> my bad that was a typo on my laptop
[13:15] <tomreyn> amcsi: so by keeping those, you basically choose to run outdated software which never gets any (security) updates and which can easily break other software you have installed or need ot install.
[13:16] <tomreyn> amcsi: your choice, of course. ;-) it's not recommended or supported here, though, so you'll need to fix this up before getting support here again.
[13:17] <amcsi> alright, got it!
[13:17] <tomreyn> Catzzye: looks like i may have time right now
[13:17] <Catzzye> Hey tomreyn, I sent you in the query, so it doesnt get lost in text and you can find it more easily later! thanks agaiN !
[13:18] <tomreyn> Catzzye: thanks. but i discard personal messages by default. i just whitelisted you, though, so you can send it again.
[13:18] <tomreyn> !pm | Catzzye
[13:18] <qwebirc79363> The pc is connected to two networks ( Its actually my ubuntu server 18.04 LTS ) My network and my neighbors network because we play minecraft together and share plex. But the server needs to use my network as default gateway.
[13:18] <tomreyn> Catzzye: what ubottu  just told you is our general recomendation.
[13:18] <qwebirc79363> And static ip is not posible because the neighbor has a isp router where you cant change lease or set static ips up in
[13:19] <Catzzye> yeah, makes sense
[13:19] <tomreyn> Catzzye: okay, let me know *here* when you post it here or when you posted it in private.
[13:20] <Catzzye> I sent you in PM but I can send you here too
[13:20] <JimBuntu> tomreyn, ^^
[13:21] <tomreyn> Catzzye: hmm that private message didn't arrive, sorry
[13:21] <qwebirc79363> I would have used dhcp4-overrides in netplan to force a higher route metric to the the interface there goes into them exept that it gives error in netplan and I have found out that that have been a bug for almost a year and the auther has turned down a persons commit to fix it in 18.04
[13:22] <tomreyn> Catzzye: got it now.
[13:22] <tomreyn> JimBuntu: thanks
[13:22] <JimBuntu> tomreyn, You're welcome, of course.
[13:24] <deadmarshal> how can i install libavahi1.0-cil ?
[13:25] <leftyfb> deadmarshal: what version of ubuntu and why do you think you need it?
[13:25] <tomreyn> Catzzye: i'll be back to you in ~ 10 minutes. in the meantime, have a look at this newer mainboard firmware which is available for your computer, and the revision history available there: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/15551437/swItemId/ob-221294-1  your current version is F.07 08/11/2017
[13:26] <deadmarshal> leftyfb: it a dependecy for another app. ubuntu v 19.04
[13:26] <leftyfb> deadmarshal: which app?
[13:26] <deadmarshal> leftyfb: airfoilspeaker
[13:29] <noalternative> A couple of weeks ago I installed Ubuntu Budgie and was referred here because I had a problem with an erratic cursor when I used touchpad.  You're community helped me install something for synaptic and than adjust the noise level and that made it work better..
[13:30] <Catzzye> thanks a lot!
[13:30] <noalternative> anyway I had to reinstall because of a program that messed things up and I need help again.
[13:31] <noalternative> since I don't remember what all was done.
[13:31] <noalternative> My computer is an x140e w/amd processor and graphics.
[13:31] <ubuntu> n
[13:31] <ubuntu> eae
[13:32] <timl132> Hello
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> Hello timl132
[13:33] <Catzzye> Hello
[13:33] <stv> wassup
[13:34] <leftyfb> noalternative: xserver-xorg-input-libinput
[13:34] <timl132> I have a question On my new laptop, lshw reports my wifi adapters(i have 2) as DISABLED. I tried unplugging one, no effect. USB Ethernet works fine. Settings app says it's there, but fails to enable it when I click the enable switch. ANyone know what's up with that?
[13:34] <Raillan> eae
[13:36] <stv> eae boiolasso
[13:36] <leftyfb> stv: can we help you with something?
[13:37] <stv> just trying to found ricing channels
[13:37] <leftyfb> deadmarshal: try installing libavahi-client-dev or libavahi-common-dev if you're compiling something.  libavahi-common3 if not
[13:39] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: We're going to need more details please. Version of Ubuntu, what the names and models of the network adapters, if you could paste the output of lshw to paste.ubuntu.com and share the link here, it would be most helpful
[13:39] <leftyfb> deadmarshal: libavahi1.0-cil is not a package or a filename available in Ubuntu
[13:39] <leftyfb> deadmarshal: for further assistance, you'll need to seek support from the developers of airfoilspeaker
[13:40] <noalternative> leftyfb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tW2Jmf62fX/    It didn't work.
[13:40] <noalternative> tells me I have broken packages
[13:41] <leftyfb> noalternative: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6XPHPnDYmY/
[13:42] <Brainiack> hey when i do uname -r to show kernal info i get a -generic at the end
[13:42] <Brainiack> am i missing a driver
[13:42] <leftyfb> Brainiack: "kernel"
[13:42] <timl132> pragmaticenigma Ubuntu 19.04, RTL8822BE, lshw is harder to get, no internet
[13:42] <leftyfb> Brainiack: and no, -generic is correct. Everything is fine
[13:43] <noalternative> thank you for that I'll look at it.
[13:43] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: I thought you said USB ethernet was working?
[13:44] <timl132> pragmaticenigma USB Wired internet works, USB wifi internet doesn't
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: Then I do not understand why you cannot post the output of lshw
[13:45] <tomreyn> Catzzye: so i'm done reviewing your log. the SSD is actually an NVMe (or considered such by Linux). it is detected but fails to get initialized properly due to timeouts. you can see this when searching your log for "timeout". the "Call trace" block below this is a "kernel oops", which means the linux kernel has run into a problem which doesn't stop it from running, but which can mean that not all of the system hardware may operate properly.
[13:45] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: gimme a sec, i'll grab a cable
[13:46] <tomreyn> Catzzye: what also sticks out is that there are a lot of ACPI errors on your system. These *may* be the underlying issue if only Linux fails to access the NVMe. But from what I understand you're saying Windows is also failing to boot off it now.
[13:47] <Brainiack> does anyone know if i do lsmod -r and uload a module from the "kernel" if i restart the module will be reloaded or not?
[13:47] <Brainiack> ulouad = unload
[13:47] <compdoc> nvme drives usually require 4 pci-e lanes, which means that some sata ports should not be used if theres an nvme card installed
[13:48] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C9gr54tgrH/
[13:49] <Catzzye> tomreyn: thank you for your insight!
[13:49] <timl132> I copied it to my phone
[13:49] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: lshw is not installed by default
[13:49] <Catzzye> soo, what this tells us, that something might have happened to the SSD
[13:49] <timl132> leftyfb: it is on ubuntu
[13:49] <Catzzye> I can open the PC up and check it out
[13:50] <tomreyn> Catzzye: about those ACPI errors, a mainboard firmware upgrade is likely (but not certain) to help there.  but this would again require a woprking windows installation since *I think* (you may want to verify this with their support) HP only supports firmware upgrades from a running Windows (not DOS, not Linux, not UEFI).
[13:52] <tomreyn> Catzzye: if you have another computer oyu can attach the storage to, this could help getting it to be read again.
[13:53] <Catzzye> I have a friend coming over
[13:53] <Catzzye> that has similar specs than as me
[13:53] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: found anything weird in lshw?
[13:53] <Catzzye> I am not sure if he has M.2 slot
[13:53] <Catzzye> I Might be able to try that
[13:54] <tomreyn> Catzzye: you primarily find those on desktop computers form the past 4 years, but some newer laptops also have those.
[13:55] <tomreyn> Catzzye: there are m.2 to usb adapters available online, but this is not ideal for trouble shooting.
[13:55] <Catzzye> its interesting how this happened after I was traveling, my main concern is what if it got damaged during the transport
[13:55] <Catzzye> but M.2 isnt a HD it should be that voulnarble
[13:56] <tomreyn> Catzzye: normally, such storage should not degrade as a result of impact, since there are no moving parts. it could be that the connector has loosened, though.
[13:57] <Catzzye> yeah, also
[13:57] <Catzzye> this is a bit funny, when I plugged the M.2 in
[13:57] <Catzzye> it was connected in a way that it went up in the air
[13:57] <Catzzye> since there was a bump on the motherboard
[13:57] <tomreyn> Catzzye: by the way, i sent you a summary of the log lines i found to be relevant as a private message.
[13:58] <slicktap> yolo
[13:58] <tomreyn> Catzzye: so this computer didn't have the m.2 NVMe factory installed?
[13:59] <Josse> I'm considering switching from Windows to Ubuntu, but what advantages and disadvantes will Ubuntu give me over windows?
[13:59] <leftyfb> !ot | Josse
[13:59] <compdoc> I use windows to run a few programs that arent availalbe for linux
[14:00] <compdoc> but linux works for most things
[14:00] <Catzzye> it is from the factory, its just a bit weird, its a slight bump but it makes the M.2 go up hahaha
[14:01] <Catzzye> thank you for the summary!
[14:01] <tomreyn> Catzzye: i see. you're welcome.
[14:02] <tomreyn> Josse: your question is surely relevant for switching to Ubuntu, it's just that we do only do technical support for when you already have it installe don this very channel. but you're welcome to ask this and related questions on one of the other channels ubottu listed.
[14:03] <Josse> I did tomreyn , thank you!
[14:05] <deadmarshal> leftyfb: thanks
[14:06] <Catzzye> tomreyn: I will try to open it up and reinsert it
[14:06] <Catzzye> do you want me to keep you updated_
[14:07] <Brainiack> does anyone know if i do lsmod -r and uload a module from the "kernel" if i restart the module will be reloaded or not?
[14:07] <nacc> Brainiack: depends on the module and how it was loaded int he first place
[14:07] <nacc> Brainiack: `lsmod -r` is also not a thing, afaik
[14:07] <nacc> Brainiack: but if it's loaded already in your prior boot, unloading it at runtime has no effect on the next boot
[14:08] <tomreyn> Catzzye: i'll actually take a break now and be back later, but would approaciate an update in case you'll get it to work, and how. if you have more questions, feel free to ask here on the channel, summing up the situation shortly, so others can also help.
[14:08] <ubuntu-issues> Hello, have there been any reports of being unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.91.23)?
[14:08] <Brainiack> lsmod -r nameofmodule unloads it
[14:09] <Brainiack> try it
[14:09] <ubuntu-issues> I am trying to download sqlite3 via apt, but, it keeps failing.
[14:09] <Catzzye> tomreyn: alright, thanks!
[14:09] <leftyfb> ubuntu-issues: please pastebin what you are running and it's output
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: I'm sorry that I had to step away... I'm not sure how to get that up and running
[14:10] <ubuntu-issues> leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/wQPWjtmy
[14:10] <ubuntu-issues> Running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[14:10] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: Okay, I'll ask reddit
[14:11] <leftyfb> ubuntu-issues: no issues on this end. Maybe a problem with your ISP at the moment? Try a different mirror temporarily?
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: don't be discouraged, you chances of getting a fix for your issue are better here
[14:11] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: Okay, I'll ask other people
[14:12] <ubuntu-issues> What is the easiest way to specify a different mirror when running apt install or apt update?
[14:12] <nacc> ubuntu-issues: modify your sources.list
[14:12] <leftyfb> ubuntu-issues: open the "Software and Updates' util
[14:12] <nacc> ubuntu-issues: but you don't specify a mirror to apt install, only to apt update
[14:13] <timl132> Everyone: My wifi adapters are all marked as DISABLED and can't be enabled from the ubuntu settings app, anyone know what to do about that? My wifi adapter is a RTL8822Be and the other one is a USB one. Wired(not wifi) Ethernet USB adapters work fine
[14:14] <Kurlon> Morning all, I'm looking to see if there is any easy way to merge security updates to wpa-2.6 with my custom version of the package, or if I need to roll those new patches in manually?
[14:15] <leftyfb> Kurlon: roll them in manually and upload to your own PPA
[14:15] <ubuntu-issues> Yeah, I was hoping there was an easier "on the fly" method for editing the sources.list file.
[14:15] <ubuntu-issues> running apt update*
[14:16] <Kurlon> Bugger, was hoping there was a nice merge tool, ok manual update it is.  Thank you leftyfb.
[14:16] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: and others. I do some more googling and it turns out it might be disabled by ideapad_laptop thing. ANyone know more about that?
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: That would mean in the system bios (on boot) there is a setting to turn it on or off, or there could a physical switch, or a Fn + F# keyboard shortcut to turn the wifi adapter on and off
[14:17] <Catzzye> tomreyn: Not sure if you left for brake now, but it wasn't flying up in the air, I forgot that you can screw it in
[14:17] <Catzzye> but when you insert it without a screw, it's in the air
[14:18] <Catzzye> there was some dust, but not too much, I am gonna clean the whole thing and than reinsert it, will let you know how it goes
[14:18] <Catzzye> M.2 itself looks just fine, I bought it a few months ago
[14:18] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: I tried all keys, it isn't hardware disabled. I checked in bios and it's enabled. It also works fine in windows. Internet says I shoudl blacklist the module or somehign but I don't know how it works.
[14:20] <ubuntu-issues> Fun, apparently the IPS I have is preventing apt from being able to connect. :/
[14:22] <ubuntu-issues> Alright, thanks everyone.
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> timl132: There are helpers here that are better skilled at that task. Right now they appear to be helping others or have stepped away momentarily.
[14:23] <timl132> pragmaticenigma: oKAY, i'LL WAIT FOR A BIT
[14:23] <timl132> sry for caps
[14:34] <parclytaxel> So, how's 19.04?
[14:35] <eltese> Hi. I wanted to (i get i will get a fairly biased version here) ask if there is any merit to the perception that Ubuntu has severly outdated packages? Or is it just that the snapshots are a bit older and you can easily get newer versions through the PPA?
[14:36] <benharri> ime ubuntu generally has up-to-date packages
[14:36] <parclytaxel> And a (quite important) question: if you upgraded to 19.04 from a previous version, did you get a fatal error at the end of the upgrading process? Is it affecting you in any substantial way?
[14:37] <parclytaxel> If it did affect you substantially, what steps did you take to resolve the problems?
[14:37] <benharri> i didn't get any fatal errors updating yesterday
[14:37] <benharri> had to re-run ubuntu-drivers autoinstall but that was it
[14:37] <eltese> benharri: allright, thanks. Just a thing you come across the various forums a lot.
[14:37] <parclytaxel> benharri: I mean, bug 1823004
[14:38] <parclytaxel> I got this bug
[14:38] <benharri> oh interesting i hadn't heard of that one
[14:38] <benharri> eltese: just make sure you're not on a super-old version of ubuntu
[14:38] <eltese> benharri: no, if I install, it would be 19.04
[14:39] <parclytaxel> Yet 19.04 looks and feels fine so far. I'm not sure if there's a deeper problem
[14:39] <benharri> if you're on an old LTS release, the packages will be very stale
[14:40] <nacc> eltese: and you understand installing that will require you to upgrade in 6-9 months, right
[14:40] <eltese>  Yes
[14:40] <nacc> eltese: in my experience, that perspective (stale packages) is based wholly on a misapprehension of what a distribution is
[14:42] <parclytaxel> Basically the bug I just described is that "triggers looping, terminated" appears for some package at the very end of the distribution upgrade, and the upgrade says it failed, but 19.04 still works fine even after reboot
[14:42] <OerHeks> parclytaxel, looks like you are the only one, try to reinstall install-info perhaps?
[14:42] <leftyfb> 19.04 will be "super old" in 9 months from now
[14:42] <leftyfb> as in, not supported
[14:42] <parclytaxel> OerHeks: did you see the bug I linked above?
[14:42] <leftyfb> I say stick with LTS and be supported with 5 years
[14:43] <parclytaxel> Many people have been affected by the bug
[14:43] <OerHeks> parclytaxel, yes, and only you are affected i read
[14:43] <OerHeks> no
[14:43] <eltese> nacc: Okay. I've played around a bit in a VM with both Ubuntu and ARch. Honestly , haven't encountered that many differences , even though I must admit I prefer pacman over apt. But what I am a bit hesitant about is that it takes me quite a while installing Arch (since I need to read a lot) and if the system  breaks that will become tedious fast I think
[14:43] <parclytaxel> I didn't file the linked bug
[14:44] <eltese> And I've never really noticed the package difference myself. Just something I hear from people fond of arch distros
[14:44] <eltese> So figured I might as well ask here also. Get both sides of the story ;)
[14:44] <parclytaxel> OerHeks: look at the launchpad, "this bug affects 8 people"!
[14:44] <OerHeks> parclytaxel, try to reinstall install-info perhaps?
[14:45] <parclytaxel> Just did that
[14:45] <OerHeks> that bug was reported 2019-04-03, before release, in beta stage.
[14:46] <nacc> eltese: arch is a very different distribution in that regard. I would suggest folks that say that are referring to AUR not Arch itself, but that's a different question. You probably want #ubuntu-discuss as well, as this seems less like a support topic
[14:46] <parclytaxel> Since cleanup was not performed after the failed upgrade, I just autoremoved the no longer needed packages - and a few others I had downloaded for university work and didn't need anymore
[14:47] <eltese> nacc: Yes, you are totally right. That was me not even considering such a channel would exist. Thanks for the answers though =)
[14:47] <parclytaxel> The only lasting bugs I see on my instance of 19.04 are that the previews of windows from the left dashboard are not really displayed properly (they're hugging the left side, not centred)
[14:48] <parclytaxel> And Firefox's rendering of some fonts has changed (I'm very particular about appearance)
[14:48] <parclytaxel> So, OerHeks, do you think I am all good?
[14:50] <parclytaxel> The two incidents I described may not even be "bugs" stricto sensu
[14:50] <OerHeks> parclytaxel, it seems you have taken the proper steps to finish the install, so yes, it is oke.
[14:50] <parclytaxel> Right then
[14:51] <OerHeks> not sure about firefox rendering, i removed that browser
[14:51] <parclytaxel> Still looks good enough - it's only one font whose rendering changed particularly, Nimbus Sans
[14:51] <parclytaxel> All the other fonts and everything else is exactly the same
[14:52] <parclytaxel> I'm cool with it
[14:54]  * parclytaxel loves drawing ponies
[15:00] <boboma> hello. i have a problem with ubuntu 19.04. I used to allow other users to access the mains users display by setting xhost
[15:00] <boboma> this does not seem to work any longer
[15:01] <boboma> did something change in that regard?
[15:03] <boboma> for example i used to set: xhost si:localuser:abc
[15:03] <boboma> but user abc cannot access main users display any longer. how to get that functionality back?
[15:07] <Kurlon> Manually rolling in the patches wasn't as much of a pain as I anticipated, that's nice.
[15:26] <grubissue> gday friendly ppl
[15:26] <grubissue> I have an upgrade issue to report
[15:26] <grubissue> and would like to inquire for some help/pointers
[15:27] <grubissue> I performed an upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04 and all went well, except for an error installing grub-efi-amd64-signed
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> grubissue: Please free to ask your question without asking to ask. Try to keep everything on a single line to make it easier to keep everything together and easier to read for others. Include any technical details, and if necsarry paste logs and/or multiline text to paste.ubuntu.com please.
[15:28] <tomreyn> grubissue: hi there. can you provide the error message?
[15:28] <grubissue> mkay, can I paste 3 or 4 lines of error output?
[15:29] <tomreyn> anything above two lines on a pastebin please
[15:29] <grubissue> Could not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.
[15:29] <grubissue> thats 2 lines into one
[15:30] <tomreyn> was there more context around this, like what it had done before or after it?
[15:30] <grubissue> itś basically a straight 18.10 install without system tweaks that I just upgraded automatically
[15:31] <grubissue> I tried to scroll back in the terminal thingy of the upgrade app, but the buffer ran oyut
[15:31] <grubissue> I retried dpkg --configure -a and it gives the same error
[15:31] <tomreyn> let's see the full output of this command then
[15:32] <grubissue> Iḿ a long time debian and ubuntu user, just not much up to speed about uefi
[15:32] <tomreyn> also this:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[15:32] <tomreyn> okay, that's good to now.
[15:33] <boboma> any idea how to fix that?
[15:33] <tomreyn> grubissue: also:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:34] <grubissue> done both, how do I get to see the output at termbin.com?
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: I'm not familiar with that sort of setup. It's not something I've heared before. Maybe you need to use a different approach, such as sharing the primary user account's desktop via VNC?
[15:35] <tomreyn> grubissue: you access the url it returned
[15:35] <tomreyn> using a web browser
[15:35] <grubissue> no output in the terminal from either cmd
[15:35] <tomreyn> boboma: you're not using xwayland now by chance?
[15:35] <boboma> no, xserver
[15:35] <boboma> and it used to work until 19.04
[15:36] <tomreyn> grubissue: hmm that's strange. are you able to run those commands individually and show their output?
[15:36] <boboma> its that you want to share your xsession with other users. E.g.
[15:36] <boboma> if you login as main user and then open a terminal and log in as a different user
[15:36] <grubissue> tomreyn Iḿ already in a root shell (sudo -s)
[15:36] <grubissue> when I paste the commands, it gives no output on the stdout
[15:37] <tomreyn> grubissue: try running it as a normal, restricted user.
[15:38] <tomreyn> grubissue: being a long time user, you'll know that's the preferred approach around ubuntu
[15:39] <grubissue> well, being a long time user, I sot of have my own routines
[15:39] <grubissue> doing linux since 94 actually
[15:40] <grubissue> ah right, now I get stdout https://termbin.com/abtr
[15:40] <tomreyn> grubissue: that's fine. so please run these commands in a way that you can capture their output and make it available - can you do this?
[15:40] <tomreyn> oh ok
[15:41] <tomreyn> grubissue: also, as a reminder, we need: dpkg --configure -a
[15:41] <grubissue> curiously, thesecond one still gives no stdout
[15:41] <grubissue> will do, just a moment
[15:43] <grubissue> tomreyn output of dpkg --configure -a  = = https://termbin.com/orhb
[15:43] <grubissue> uh oh maybe try that again with LANG=C
[15:43] <tomreyn> grubissue: that'd be kind, thanks
[15:44] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/mr52
[15:45] <tomreyn> grubissue: if this is an ubuntu issue, you could subscribe to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1801797
[15:46] <tomreyn> (or add to it)
[15:47] <grubissue> tomreyn that doesn look very helpful tho
[15:47] <tomreyn> grubissue: can you show  lsblk 2>&1; efibootmgr --verbose 2>&1
[15:47] <grubissue> itś about 18.04
[15:47] <grubissue> whuile I installed 18.10 with no problems
[15:47] <tomreyn> ok
[15:47] <grubissue> the 19.04 upgrade is the problem
[15:48] <tomreyn> were you uefi booting before you installed ubuntu?
[15:48] <tomreyn> or when, rather
[15:48] <grubissue> i dunno, as I said, basic 18.10 install without any tweaks
[15:49] <grubissue> just using defaults
[15:49] <grubissue> machine is oldish
[15:49] <tomreyn> the issue herer seems to be that an ubuntu system which was initially installed in a bios boot environment was later changed (but not entirely) into a uefi booting system
[15:49] <grubissue> a thin client dual core amd something that I added mem and a m.2 ssd to
[15:49] <tomreyn> causing this upgrade error.
[15:50] <tomreyn> i'll wait for the above output then.
[15:50] <wonderworld> uefi is terrible. it should at least support full transparent backward compability
[15:50] <grubissue> tomreyn iĺl have to figure out how to get that to termbin.com
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | wonderworld
[15:51] <tomreyn> wonderworld: commentary an opinion is welcome outside of this channel.
[15:51] <wonderworld> i see, sorry
[15:51] <tomreyn> grubissue: pipe each command into    nc termbin.com 9999
[15:52] <grubissue> tomreyn: it doesn't seem to give me the url back on stdout
[15:52] <tomreyn> grubissue: which shell are you using there?
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: I have a feeling that you will have to review xhost documentation. There could be some changes in how xhost works going forward.
[15:53] <grubissue> bash i guess
[15:53] <tomreyn> it usually just works, so your system is special.
[15:53] <tomreyn> do you have "pastebinit" installed?
[15:54] <boboma> unfortunately there are no changes in the xhost docs
[15:54] <grubissue> echo just testing  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:54] <boboma> in that regard
[15:54] <grubissue> that gives me an url
[15:54] <boboma> could be a bug.
[15:54] <grubissue> ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:54] <grubissue> nothing
[15:54] <boboma> It's kind of annoying that with every new release some things that used to work break
[15:54] <tomreyn> grubissue: that's not a command i asked you to run though
[15:55] <grubissue> it does give copious output without netcat
[15:55] <grubissue> tomreyn earlier you did tho
 grubissue: also:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:55] <tomreyn> compare to what you ran
[15:56] <OerHeks> that 1st ubuntu-support-status line should work, it does here
[15:56] <grubissue> (lsblk 2>&1; efibootmgr --verbose 2>&1) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:56] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/aph1
[15:56] <grubissue> ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:57] <grubissue> --nothing--
[15:57] <grubissue> &lots without the nc pipe
[15:57] <grubissue> weird
[15:57] <OerHeks> both work..
[15:58] <tomreyn> grubissue: try with LANG=C or, if you have, LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[15:58] <OerHeks> well, you need to wait 30 seconds or so
[15:58] <grubissue> oerheks dunno why but it doesnt on my box
[15:58] <tomreyn> grubissue: if it still doesn't work, redirect to a file and post the file afterwards.
[15:59] <grubissue> tomreyn I already export LANG=C
[16:00] <tomreyn> grubissue: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported &>/tmp/uss; wc -l /tmp/uss; cat /tmp/uss | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> boboma: rarely do things break between releases... when I've seen something "break" it is usually because the method I used to make it work wasn't the right way to begin with, and someone patched a vulnerability to closed the loophole
[16:00] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/tteo
[16:01] <tomreyn> grubissue: thanks. now:  cat /proc/mounts  | grep -i efi
[16:02] <tomreyn> grubissue: as OerHeks hinted correctly, the issue with posting ubuntu-support-status was that the command runs too long and termbin.com closed the tcp connection in the meantime
[16:02] <grubissue> efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars efivarfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot/efi vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[16:03] <grubissue> tomreyn: guess so, as i wrote it is an oldish machine
[16:05] <jojero> Hi! I have problem after using dd I can't open my usb?
[16:05] <jojero> dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': No such device or address
[16:05] <jojero> Can anyone help me I just bought this usb thumb drive just this week.
[16:06] <tomreyn> grubissue: hmm, these mounts look fine. so the dpkg --configure -a suggests that there is an issue with writing to your nvram where the efi variables are stored. is this somehow write protected on your system? it usually is not.
[16:06] <timl132> I need to edit a linux file to add support for my own platform(ideapad_laptop), ideapad_laptop is also the module name. Is there a way to download that part of the Linux source and compile only the ideapad_laptop part and load that into Ubuntu so it doesn't take years to compile? Thx
[16:06] <grubissue> jojero whatdoes dmesg |grep "dev/sd" say?
[16:07] <grubissue> tomreyn I have no ides, as I said, no problems when installing 18.10
[16:07] <grubissue> and i certainly did not tweak any of it
[16:07] <tomreyn> grubissue: but was 18.10 uefi booting as well?
[16:07] <grubissue> tomreyn I dunno
[16:07] <grubissue> just using defaults
[16:08] <grubissue> of the 18.10 install
[16:08] <tomreyn> grubissue: well, maybe your nvram broke in the meantime. this happens.
[16:08] <grubissue> cosmic particles
[16:08] <grubissue> maybe the plasma cutter that I was using outside while the upgrade ran lol
[16:10] <tomreyn> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed disco
[16:10] <grubissue> tomreyn thanks for the effort, I guess I am going to reboot anyway and use a rescue or boot-repair thingy if it won boot anymore
[16:10] <grubissue> wut1?
[16:11] <tomreyn> it was false information https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/grub-efi-amd64-signed
[16:11] <grubissue> Setting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.115+2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2) ...
[16:13] <tomreyn> grubissue: can you post   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[16:14] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/vc2u
[16:15] <grubissue> grub2-signed (1.115) disco; urgency=medium
[16:15] <grubissue>   * Rebuild against grub2 2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2.
[16:15] <tomreyn> grubissue: thanks. well, looks as if you may have found a new bug, not sure. it woud be good if we could work out why and how grub-install fails. but if you need to work around it, that's ok, of course.
[16:15] <grubissue>  -- Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <cyphermox@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:52:22 -0500
[16:16] <grubissue> tomreyn yeah thats why I came here, to report the bug
[16:16] <tomreyn> grubissue: to report bugs, use ubuntu-bug
[16:16] <grubissue> before kludging around it with a rescue boot disk
[16:16] <tomreyn> !bug
[16:17] <grubissue> can i do that without committing my email adres to the web or signing in to sites?  i dont like that
[16:17] <grubissue> i get zero spam nowadays
[16:17] <grubissue> cuz im extremely reticent about putting in my mail adress
[16:18] <tomreyn> grubissue: you would need to have an Ubuntu SSO account to post to Launchpad
[16:19] <tomreyn> it would guide you through creating one
[16:19] <grubissue> tomreyn I ll think about it for a while
[16:19] <tomreyn> i'm not going to report bugs for others, the oriignal reporter is expected to be affected by a bug.
[16:19] <grubissue> not in a hurry to reboot
[16:20] <tomreyn> okay i'll see how we can get more info
[16:20] <f00b4r> hello, how to use drag & drop in nautilus with ubuntu 19.04 ?
[16:22] <grubissue> tomreyn: used to be a debian developer, i read all of debian-usr, debian-devel AND debian-bugs-dist daily
[16:22] <grubissue> then I got tired of it and wanted no more of it
[16:22] <grubissue> so i stopped doing that thing altogether radically
[16:23] <grubissue> will consider registereing with launchpad for this issue
[16:23] <grubissue> have to think abot it a bit
[16:23] <f00b4r> i use that -> https://itsfoss.com/fix-drag-drop-ubuntu/ and doesn't work
[16:25] <tomreyn> grubissue: if oyu're happy to experiment more, try this and then run ls against it to see f it was created:   touch foo /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/
[16:25] <tomreyn> +sudo
[16:26] <tomreyn> (it should not be created this way, but also niot report an error)
[16:27] <grubissue> tomreyn just checking, do you want me to touch a dir AND create foo ni the CWD?
[16:27] <tomreyn> grubissue: doh sorry, touch /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/foo
[16:28] <grubissue> touch: setting times of '/sys/firmware/efi/efivars/foo': Invalid argument
[16:28] <tomreyn> okay that's actually expected
[16:28] <grubissue> no file created
[16:29] <tomreyn> fine
[16:29] <tomreyn> can i see:  mokutil --sb-state
[16:29] <grubissue> SecureBoot disabled
[16:30] <tomreyn> oh, hmm, maybe that's already why it fails.
[16:31] <grubissue> i dont remember the details of the install, but if given a choice, i probably would have disabled that
[16:31] <tomreyn> grubissue: can you    apt purge grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed
[16:32] <tomreyn> grubissue: you may actually need to do this with dpkg, package by package, since those packages are half-installed
[16:32] <grubissue> done, now reinstall?
[16:32] <grubissue> no went fine with apt
[16:32] <tomreyn> no, you want the non secureboot ones
[16:32] <grubissue> ah
[16:33] <tomreyn> actually i'm wrong
[16:33] <tomreyn> you do need grub-efi-amd64-signed
[16:33] <tomreyn> also grub-efi-amd64-bin
[16:33] <tomreyn> just install the latter
[16:34] <grubissue> grub-efi-amd64-bin is already the newest version (2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2).
[16:34] <tomreyn> grubissue: okay, can you now:   apt update; apt full-upgrade -V
[16:34] <grubissue> if I try to install grub-efi-amd64 apt wants to remove grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc
[16:35] <tomreyn> you nee dthose
[16:36] <grubissue> tomreyn the full-upgrade does nothing except name autoremoveable pkgs
[16:36] <tomreyn> you don't need grub-efi-amd64 but you need grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc
[16:36] <grubissue> tomreyn i did not proceed to remove those
[16:36] <tomreyn> grubissue: okay, now update-grub && grub-install
[16:36] <grubissue> nor did I instyall grub-efi-amd64
[16:36] <tomreyn> ok
[16:37] <grubissue> grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.
[16:38] <tomreyn> grubissue: can you   sudo ls -lR /boot/efi/
[16:39] <tomreyn> i was focussing on the nvram earlier when really i should have focussed on the ESP, sorry.
[16:39] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/khol
[16:42] <tomreyn> grubissue: ok. i remember i asked you to post    cat /proc/mounts   earlier, but can't find the output, did you post it?
[16:43] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/1y6a
[16:44] <tomreyn> grubissue: okay, so the ESP is mounted, and writable:  /dev/sda1 /boot/efi vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[16:44] <tomreyn> still grub states it runs into an I/O error while trying to write to it
[16:45] <grubissue> uh oh, i just purged the running kernel
[16:45] <clovemill> ops
[16:45] <clovemill> oops
[16:45] <grubissue> oh well, try grub again
[16:45] <tomreyn> grubissue: can you touch /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntutest
[16:45] <clovemill> lol
[16:45] <clovemill> #git
[16:45] <grubissue> -rwx------ 1 root root 0 apr 19 18:45 /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntutest
[16:47] <grubissue> grub-install now works, after purging all 4.x.y kernels from 18.10 (now unsupported)
[16:48] <tomreyn> grubissue: ok. the upgrade would have done so if it had succeeded.
[16:48] <grubissue> update-grub && grub-install still craps out
[16:48] <jojero> grubissue it shows nothing.
[16:48] <grubissue> grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.
[16:48] <tomreyn> grubissue: how?
[16:48] <tomreyn> okay
[16:48] <jojero> grubissue I am so upset Im not gonna buy usb there anymore. Im happy that I still have 7 days replacement.
[16:48] <grubissue> Installing for x86_64-efi platform. Could not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument
[16:48] <jojero> even mkusb cant format it.
[16:49] <grubissue> jojero don buy usb disks and stuff on alibaba.com
[16:49] <jojero> grubissue I buy on Gadget King in Philippines
[16:49] <tomreyn> grubissue: sudo efibootmgr --create-only --label test
[16:49] <jojero> sandisk
[16:50] <jojero> I hope the memory card I bought doesnt have any problem.
[16:50] <grubissue> jojero never had a problem with sandisk stuff
[16:50] <tomreyn> grubissue: please report the output of the above command, then run:  sudo efibootmgr
[16:50] <grubissue> does it work on a different computer?
[16:51] <jojero> Btw, The receipt said, Purchased items are subject to 7 days replacement.
[16:51] <grubissue> Could not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument
[16:51] <jojero> And No proof of purchase and damaged packaging will not be honored what does the damaged packaging means? Specially sandisk packaging are cut off to get the usb drive inside. :/
[16:51] <grubissue> https://termbin.com/xkc0
[16:51] <tomreyn> grubissue: this is really where we need to file a bug.
[16:52] <grubissue> BootCurrent: 0000
[16:52] <jojero> grubissue do you think they will accept it for warranty?
[16:52] <tomreyn> grubissue: the abive command should not have failed, at least when secure boot is off, as you say.
[16:52] <grubissue> that looks weird as there is no definition for it
[16:52] <tomreyn> grubissue: 0000 is the first
[16:53] <tomreyn> oh ignore what i said, you'Re right
[16:53] <tomreyn> grubissue: but that's just because you usb booted
[16:53] <grubissue> tomreyn correct as in that is how i installed 18.10
[16:53] <tomreyn> grubissue: at leats i would think so. at least you seem to have booted fine to 0000
[16:53] <grubissue> guess i never changed the bios to not boot first from usb
[16:54] <Catzzye> tomreyn: Welcome back
[16:54] <jojero> grubissue this is the case, ugh Im not gonna buy there anymore, thanks grub btw. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj2xp-tz9zhAhXSA4gKHbi0D8EQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiamart.com%2Fproddetail%2Fsandisk-pendrive-4315756612.html&psig=AOvVaw0wmYrS5EKtUpV3oTDE6cyO&ust=1555779213056238
[16:54] <grubissue> i don have a bootable usb plugged in since the install
[16:54] <Catzzye> tomreyn: Actually, brb, I am gonna grab something to eat
[16:54] <grubissue> rebooted a few times since
[16:55] <grubissue> jojero: indiamart? that sounds even more fishy than alibaba
[16:55] <grubissue> odds are high that it is entirely counterfeit
[16:55] <jojero> Naah in SM Sta Mesa here in manila
[16:55] <jojero> grubissue*
[16:55] <tomreyn> grubissue: i think what you posted earlier suggested that the current boot was off the installer, so i assume you are still running out of the installer /livecd. is this no longer so?
[16:56] <jojero> I waste 10$ for this usb :/
[16:56] <grubissue> tomreyn no, booting off the ssd
[16:56] <grubissue> only booted from usb to do the install
[16:56] <jojero> Im gonna go crazy if they dont give it replacement.
[16:56] <tomreyn> !ot | jojero, I uznderstand this is aggravating, but
[16:56] <grubissue> jojero the time and agony are a bigger waste than the 10 bucks
[16:57] <jojero> yeah. btw does anyone have problems with mine? Blue became purple on my 2nd monitor? Im using Ubuntu 18.04
[16:58] <jojero> oh sorry tomreyn.
[16:58] <tomreyn> grubissue: please set the standard boot order in your firmware, and reboot into this system, then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[16:58] <tomreyn> that's if you can boot that way
[16:58] <tomreyn> brb
[16:58] <grubissue> tomreyn: will do, hope it still boots tho, i just removed the running kernel :-/
[16:59] <grubissue> lol
[16:59] <grubissue> tnx for the support
[17:03] <JimBuntu> jojero, double check the monitor cable is inserted well.
[17:04] <grubissue> well, it rebooted allright into 5.0 kernel
[17:04] <grubissue> buit grub-install still errors
[17:05] <grubissue> gonna reboot a few more times until i figure out how to get into the bios and set the boot order
[17:05] <tomreyn> grubissue: wait a second
[17:05] <tomreyn> grubissue: oh you already know the boot order is the issue, ok
[17:07] <Catzzye> This captcha is so damn sensitive
[17:09] <Catzzye> Hello tomreyn, I don't know which messages have you seen, but I opened it up, dust a lot of stuff off, remove and removed the SSD M.2 stick (which looks just fine from a physical view) and I booted Ubuntu back up
[17:09] <Catzzye> I don't see it picking it up by the Other Locations tab
[17:09] <tomreyn> Catzzye: does this show errors?   journalctl -b | grep nvme
[17:10] <jojero> Jumbuntu naah I tried it even on windows with partition tool, its dead already. :/
[17:10] <jojero> JimBuntu *
[17:11] <Catzzye> sorry give me a minute
[17:11] <tomreyn> Catzzye: tis would be an error:   nvme nvme0: I/O
[17:11] <Catzzye> I gotta boot back in
[17:11] <tomreyn> sure, take you r time
[17:11] <JimBuntu> jojero, I was talking about the blue/purple monitor issue you posted
[17:12] <jojero> Oh yes it was intact. Im using chrome
[17:12] <sario528> Is there a chromium irc channel?
[17:12] <jojero> In the chrome is purple not blue
[17:12] <JimBuntu> sario528, /msg alis list chromium
[17:13] <qwebirc30154> What's an appropriate channel to ask about how to setup a TAP network interface and a bridge in ubuntu/linux?
[17:13] <originalabhay> anyone using 19.04
[17:13] <tomreyn> !alis | sario528
[17:13] <sario528> I forget about alis, thanks guys
 /join ##linux
[17:14] <gislaved> are all ubuntu mirrors that slow ?
[17:14] <qwebirc30154> thx
[17:14] <grubissue> TADAA!! after resetting the bios boot order, grub problems are now fixed
[17:15] <grubissue> btw secure boot was off and still is
[17:15] <grubissue> the bios has a listing of both uefi devices and legacy devices
[17:15] <tomreyn> grubissue: okay so i guess your uefi firmware is 'special' in that it sets a a non-existing bootnum if you boot as you did previously
[17:15] <grubissue> maybe that also contributed to the weirdness
[17:16] <tomreyn> grubissue: it's usually best to boot to removable media only using a one-time boot override
[17:16] <tomreyn> grubissue: i.-.e don't change the boot ordering if you don't strictly need to.
[17:17] <grubissue> tomreyn yah, i guess so
[17:17] <grubissue> iḿ used to it working tho
[17:17] <grubissue> i guess that this is just a weird bios
[17:17] <grubissue> as i wrote it is a thin client
[17:18] <tomreyn> grubissue: also note that non-available boot devices with lower bootnums can have the complete boot process fail.
[17:18] <grubissue> HP t520 Flexible Series Thin Client
[17:18] <tomreyn> grubissue: i must have missed you writing this, i see
[17:19] <grubissue> these things often have subtly nonstandard bioses
[17:19] <tomreyn> right you said so before
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> originalabhay: why?
[17:19] <grubissue> after some mem and ssd upgrade makes a fine desktop tho
[17:19] <tomreyn> grubissue: some parts about uefi are not well specified, and others are not always implemented as specified.
[17:19] <grubissue> better than the raspi that i was using before
[17:20] <tomreyn> hehe
[17:20] <grubissue> couldnt have more than 6 tabs open in that before it froze
[17:20] <tomreyn> a bug report would still be nice, if you can sum it up.
[17:21] <tomreyn> but you'd need to point out it's likely hardware / firmware specific
[17:21] <grubissue> tomreyn will see what i do. have to eat a bit first
[17:22] <grubissue> dunno what pkg to file the bug against
[17:22] <grubissue> what do you suggest?
[17:22] <Catzzye> journalctl -b | grep nvme
[17:22] <tomreyn> grubissue: i'd say efibootmgr
[17:23] <tomreyn> grubissue: it's what update-grub calls and whatreports the I/O issue
[17:23] <grubissue> okay will look into it later
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !pastebin | Catzzye
[17:23] <tomreyn> grubissue: see lines 3 and 4 at https://termbin.com/mr52
[17:23] <Catzzye2> tomreyn: I got a lot of messages, but they dont sound very positibe
[17:24] <Catzzye2> positive
 Catzzye: tis would be an error:   nvme nvme0: I/O
[17:24] <grubissue> tomreyn do you still have the termbin url handy that had the weird 0000 boot order?
[17:24] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: does it report this?
[17:24] <grubissue> i lost the irc history over reboots
[17:25] <Catzzye2> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BrTNfpNwbP/
[17:25] <tomreyn> grubissue: https://termbin.com/xkc0
[17:25] <grubissue> what was the command again to produce that?
[17:25] <tomreyn> grubissue: there's also a channel log (but delaed by ~ 30 min or an hour), see /topic
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> grubissue: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/04/19/%23ubuntu.html
[17:25] <tomreyn> grubissue: efibootmgr
[17:26] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: yes this looks just like before
[17:26] <grubissue> tomreyn tnx
[17:26] <Catzzye2> tomreyn: well yikes
[17:26] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: so unless those acpi issues trigger this, i 'd say this storage is done.
[17:26] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: you can try examining this stoage more using the "nvme" (CLI) utilities
[17:27] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: but chances are it will just timeout again
[17:28] <Catzzye2> well, might as well try
[17:28] <grubissue> okay afk for some soup eatin
[17:28] <Catzzye2> how do I go around doing that
[17:28] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: do you actually reboot, or just suspend/resume ?
[17:28] <Catzzye2> have a nice meal grubissue
[17:28] <Catzzye2> tomreyn: The Ubuntu? I just booted back to it from flash
[17:29] <DuckyDev> :wq
[17:29] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: so a full reboot, you'Re saying, right?
[17:29] <myself> So, an old Windows reflex surfaced and I accidentally hit Alt-F4. Of course, a new console pops up. Alt-F1 takes me back to my GUI session easily enough, but now when I use Win+rightarrow to try to shove a window into the right half of the screen, I instead end up over on this other terminal. How do I make it go away?
[17:30] <Catzzye2> I think so? tomreyn
[17:30] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: i.e. you either chose the option to shutdown / powerdown, or the option to reboot, from the menu. not the option to "pause"
[17:30] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: i'm asking because suspend could cause these issues.
[17:30] <Catzzye2> I mean when I was taking it apart I choose shutdown
[17:31] <Catzzye2> And it shutted down completely
[17:31] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: okay, that's good enough.
[17:31] <Catzzye2> And I booted back from Boot menu and it took a couple minutes to load, meaning its most likely full
[17:31] <OerHeks> myself, there is a solution, moment..
[17:32] <myself> OerHeks: Thanks :) I know I could just reboot, but that wouldn't actually teach me anything...
[17:32] <Catzzye2> did you say there is something else to try out?
[17:32] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: actually, there may be a firmware update for the nvme you could install. let me check this.
[17:32] <OerHeks> myself, sudo kbd_mode -s # https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/467503
[17:33] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: the other thing i said you could try is this (windows only) firmware upgrade: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/15551437
[17:33] <tomreyn> actually this https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/15551437/swItemId/ob-221294-1
[17:33] <OerHeks> i believe it is persistent.
[17:33] <myself> OerHeks: Thanks, that did the trick!
[17:34] <Catzzye2> Windows only yikes
[17:35] <OerHeks> myself, have fun!
[17:38] <martind_> hello gus
[17:38] <martind_> I have a strange problem with my ubuntu related to the memory
[17:38] <Catzzye2> why do M.2 even need updates haha
[17:38] <martind_> i have 2Gigs of RAM and sometimes, when the apps eat almost all of it (95%) ubuntu freezes
[17:38] <ikanobori> That's not very strange.
[17:38] <martind_> how can I easily open task manager and kill whatever is eating it
[17:39] <amirite> hey guys, i just installed elementary OS (debian based) and I can't get X to start or even configure it. The first error I see in Xorg.0.log is '(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)'. I can't figure out where the configure lives that is trying to load this module. It's not matched by grepping recursively in /etc/X11 or in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[17:39] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: your ubuntu version please?
[17:39] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: one of the ACPIU errors seems to refer to the nvme. i think a mainboard firmware (uefi) upgrade makes a lot of sense.
[17:39] <martind_> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[17:39] <leftyfb> !elementary | martind_
[17:39] <tomreyn> !ot | amirite
[17:39] <leftyfb> oops
[17:39] <leftyfb> !elementary | amirite
[17:40] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: ubuntu-desktop with gnome?
[17:40] <amirite> :(
[17:40] <amirite> so I have to install ubuntu to figure this out?
[17:40] <leftyfb> amirite: type /join #elementary and ask for help there
[17:41] <lotuspsychje_> amirite: when you install ubuntu, you can get support here for ubuntu
[17:41] <tomreyn> amirite: you are welcome to ask for support in #ubuntu when you run ubuntu. makes sense, eh? ;-)
[17:41] <martind_> lotuspsychje_: yes
[17:42] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: 2GB ram for gnome3 is a bit low im affraid
[17:42] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: you might wanna try out other !flavors for your computer
[17:42] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: i can't tell what your NVMe model is from your log (it doesn't get that far), so can't tell whether there may be firmware upgrades available for it.
[17:43] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: unless you really wanna tweak to the max
[17:43] <OerHeks> fwupdate ..?
[17:44] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: but if you'll have to reinstall windows to be able to upgrade your mainboard firmware, you may want to re-use this 'opportunity' to also install the NVMe vendors' upgrade utility and check whether an NVMe upgrade si available.
[17:44] <martind_> my Motherboard support up to 4GB
[17:44] <martind_> if I upgrade ... will that be enough though?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: do you have an ssd or mechanical hd?
[17:44] <martind_> ssd - 120GB
[17:44] <martind_> runs like hell
[17:44] <lotuspsychje_> Matrix8967[m]: upgrade what to what?
[17:44] <martind_> until i reaches 95% memory
[17:44] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: ^
[17:44] <martind_> then it stucks for like a minute
[17:45] <Catzzye2> okay so if its not a problem for you to check I found a box
[17:45] <martind_> AMD® Phenom(tm) 9750 quad-core processor × 4
[17:45] <tomreyn> OerHeks: HP laptop, Insyde UEFI.
[17:45] <Catzzye2> it says PCIe SSD 110s, Gen 3 x4, 128GB tomreyn
[17:45] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: what doe you mean?
[17:45] <tomreyn> oh
[17:46] <Matrix8967[m]> ???
[17:46] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: no vendor?
[17:46] <lotuspsychje_> Matrix8967[m]: sorry, typo
[17:46] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: or brand
[17:46] <Catzzye2> vendor is Transcend
[17:46] <Matrix8967[m]> Ohh, haha, np.
[17:46]  * Matrix8967[m] resumes lurking
[17:46] <lotuspsychje_> !flavors | martind_
[17:47] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: just not kubuntu
[17:47] <martind_> lotuspsychje_: Yes, I ended with Unbuntu after trying few others
[17:47] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/No-953
[17:47] <martind_> but ... will 4GB be enough ?
[17:47] <qualcuno> 萌
[17:48] <mike802> you don't understand the words you're typing
[17:48] <OerHeks> 4 gb would be minimum for 64bit, in my opinion
[17:48] <lotuspsychje_> martind_: 4g ram will work on gnome3 yeah, reccomended 8gb+
[17:48] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: the pre-selected Part Number on the top right should be correct.
[17:49] <mike802> have you ever used ANY computer before?  how does ram work on windows?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje_> !who | mike802
[17:49] <mike802> :)
[17:49] <mike802> np
[17:50] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: "SSD Scope" is the utility you 'd need
[17:50] <Catzzye2> yeah... but its Windows only again
[17:51] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: also note this https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-1206
[17:51] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: and this https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-1202
[17:52] <Catzzye2> oh god did I buy the wrong one
[17:52] <Loeb> I've gone and botched something in the kernel and now the "nvidia" driver is grabbing my secondary card instead of "vfio-pci" again. I don't know how exactly I fixed this before and all of those changes are still in place, so I'm at a loss.
[17:53] <Catzzye2> windows updates are the most evil thing, they always screw something up
[17:53] <Catzzye2> oh Goddd I bought the wrong oneeee
[17:53] <Catzzye2> the chips are facing downwards
[17:53] <lotuspsychje_> Loeb: you did what with kernel on wich ubuntu version?
[17:54] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: oops
[17:54] <Loeb> Went from 4.18 to 5.0 on dist upgrade from 18.10 to 1.04 lotuspsychje
[17:54] <Loeb> 19.04*
[17:54] <Catzzye2> are they not supposed to face downward
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: pastebin: sudo lshw -C video please?
[17:55] <Catzzye2> they are facing the internal components
[17:55] <Catzzye2> I can take a picture
[17:55] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: i woupd not know, you really need to check these images on that FAQ and compare the connectors to your board. note that you have 2 lanes next to the notch on the one platform, 3 on the other. You can also ask for help with this in ##hardware
[17:56] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, nvidia 750ti and 950, both with the config line "driver=nvidia latency=0" IRC is on a different computer from the one being worked on so it's a pain to get text from here to there.
[17:56] <Loeb> Both have physical id: 0, curiously.
[17:57] <Catzzye2> B and M design are identical
[17:57] <Catzzye2> one is just flipped
[17:57] <Catzzye2> uhh this sucks hahaha
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: you recall wich drivers you installed? stock ubuntu or ppa?
[17:57] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: you're right, and i was wrong about the lanes
[17:57] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, stock ubuntu.
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: could you check: ubuntu-drivers list
[17:58] <Loeb> They got uninstalled/reinstalled a LOT when I was fixing this last week. When I switched to 418 everything started working.
[17:58] <Catzzye2> but what if it isnt just flipped
[17:58] <user_> JFHJAHJGÄS
[17:58] <Catzzye2> but why would it work in the first place
[17:58] <tomreyn> user_: please don't spam, thanks.
[17:59] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, that command returns nvidia-340, nvidia-driver-390, and nvidia-driver-418. Does that mean that those are installed? Or just available.
[17:59] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: i'm not qualified to help you figuring this out, and you'll best be served on a support forum for hardware. we support an operating system here only
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: it means the drivers available for your card
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: maybe try the 390 and reboot, see if that can fix things
[18:00] <Catzzye2> right, thanks tomreyn
[18:00] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, I could try that again, the conclusion I came to last time was 390 wasn't supported on the newer (4.18 at the time) kernel.
[18:00] <user_> H
[18:00] <mike802> :)
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: we can test
[18:01] <user_> PENIS GEWEHR FICKT CHIARA IM DOGGY STYLE BIS DER ARSCH BLUTET
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !ops | user_ spam
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[18:02] <user_> LFPENIS PENIS PENIS
[18:02] <Loeb> feels like december 26
[18:02] <Catzzye2> lol why do they even troll in the most useless place
[18:02] <Catzzye2> out of all the places why harass the support channel
[18:03] <OerHeks> Catzzye2, let go, ops will handle it
[18:03] <Catzzye2> its just stupid and unneccesary but yeah
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[18:04] <Catzzye2> I must be invited to #hardware apperantly, not sure what that means tomreyn
[18:04] <leftyfb> !op | user_
[18:04] <tomreyn> Catzzye2: it's ##hardware
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[18:05] <leftyfb> user_: please leave
[18:05] <Catzzye2> Thanks
[18:05] <leftyfb> user_: feel free to join #ubuntu-ops if you need help trolling
[18:05] <user_> WERbistdu
[18:05] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, well 390 seems to have worked in that the driver loaded on boot (unless 418 stuck around?) but it's still sticking on both cards
[18:05] <user_> dreine murt
[18:05] <Loeb> I just realized I haven't been using --purge so lemme run that real quick
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: what do you mean with 'sticking' on both cards?
[18:06] <user_> deine mutter fickt 20 stunden pro tag
[18:06] <user_> haltsmaul du hurr
[18:06] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, lspci -nnk returns the "nvidia" driver being loaded on the 950 (secondary card, not being used on the desktop) as well as the 750 ti (primary card, being used to drive displays)
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Loeb: does your bios have settings to prefer a card?
[18:06] <leftyfb> user_: bitte geh
[18:07] <M_aD> user_: learn to speak proper German since our not even able to and stop trolling
[18:07] <M_aD> our/your
[18:09] <Annexation> is it generally a bad idea to dual boot with ubuntu?
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Annexation: the users choice
[18:09] <Annexation> or is it best to have a dedicated machine for ubuntu
[18:09] <OerHeks> Annexation, it is oke. and tested.
[18:09] <Loeb> Annexation, dual booting is usually fine, though if you just want a test drive you can run the OS from a USB drive without making any changes to your hard disk.
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[18:11] <Loeb> I want to say what licked it last time was moving the "vfio-pci ids=" list of devices for the vfio-pci driver to grab into modprobe.d instead of the grub command line
[18:12] <Loeb> that's obviously still in place
[18:12] <Loeb> I feel like this is just some weird race condition during boot
[18:13] <SomeT> in ubuntu server I have the following active screen, in screen: https://i.gyazo.com/1db666e2bd97073d88183f0bad64c52b.png its running in the background and I want to stop it, how do I switch back to it?
[18:13] <user_> shd
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[18:13] <SomeT> uh?
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> come join to #ubuntu-server please SomeT
[18:13] <SomeT> I did already ;)
[18:13] <SomeT> I put in many channels to see which is most responsive
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | SomeT
[18:14] <leftyfb> SomeT: screen -d -r 1440.pts-0
[18:14] <SomeT> I know its frowned upon to do this, but last month it took 3 months of waiting to get a response and that was only because I nudged on a different irc server
[18:14] <user_> 564,
[18:14] <SomeT> thanks
[18:14] <user_> 44545,56,
[18:14] <user_> ,,
[18:14] <user_> ,
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[18:14] <Loeb> maybe they'll get k-lined later
[18:14] <mike802> hopefully
[18:15] <mike802> this isn't a couple's get-away
[18:15] <Loeb> lotuspsychje, so remove and went to 390, and then remove --purge and went back to 418. Still no change.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> mike802: please keep comments for offtopic channel
[18:15] <jcotton> what is the OT channel?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | jcotton
[18:15] <jcotton> thank
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !discuss > jcotton also
[18:16] <Loeb> man that heavy bot use never gets any less abrasive -.-
[18:16] <jcotton> automation is a harsh mistress
[18:16] <SomeT> leftyb: I tried what you mentioned, but it did not work
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> Loeb jcotton keep comments out of the support channel please
[18:17] <jcotton> alright
[18:17] <SomeT> leftyb: Attaching from inside of screen?
[18:17] <SomeT> thats what it comes up with
[18:17] <SomeT> when I type what you advised?
[18:17] <SomeT> *-?
[18:17] <leftyfb> SomeT: close your terminal first, then run it
[18:17] <leftyfb> in a new terminal
[18:17] <SomeT> ah
[18:18] <SomeT> now I see
[18:18] <SomeT> thanks
[18:18] <SomeT> how do I get rid of a screen completely?
[18:18] <Loeb> screen -ls will give you the procss id number, and you can just kill that
[18:18] <leftyfb> SomeT: why do you need to remove it? Just don't run it if you don't want to use it
[18:18] <Loeb> or attach to the screen and kill it
[18:19] <leftyfb> SomeT: sudo apt remove screen
[18:19] <jcotton> he said a screen
[18:19] <jcotton> so not thee screen program
[18:19] <SomeT> I got rid of it by accident anyway
[18:19] <SomeT> so no worries
[18:20] <leftyfb> SomeT: to exit out of screen and not leave it running, just type exit
[18:25] <SomeT> thanks
[18:28] <SomeT> how do I kill this process completely? I am about 99.9% certain the binary is terminated but the port is still in use?: 2019/04/19 18:28:01 listen tcp :80: bind: address already in use
[18:29] <leftyfb> SomeT: sudo lsof -i :80
[18:29] <leftyfb> to see what's using it
[18:30] <SomeT> https://hastebin.com/iyafoluxul.apache
[18:30] <SomeT> this
[18:31] <SomeT> I tried to do `kill 1940`
[18:31] <SomeT> but I still get same error
[18:31] <leftyfb> SomeT: sudo kill-9 1940
[18:31] <leftyfb> SomeT: or stop it properly
[18:31] <SomeT> `sudo: kill-9: command not found`
[18:31] <SomeT> how do I stop it properly
[18:32] <leftyfb> SomeT: I'm not familiar with any "backend" application. I  assume a systemd service
[18:32] <SomeT> nah its a webserver I written in golang
[18:33] <leftyfb> SomeT: ok, so unless you wrote it properly and/or wrote a systemd unit, you'll just need to kill the PID
[18:33] <SomeT> I tried to kill PID
[18:33] <SomeT> the command dont exist your method
[18:33] <SomeT> if I just type kill nothing happens
[18:33] <cryptodan> SomeT: its "sudo kill -9 1940"
[18:34] <SomeT> yay that worked
[18:34] <SomeT> thought there might have been a space
[18:34] <Brainiack> anyone know how to add a button to ubuntu taskbar name the button and then have it launch a bash script once pressed
[18:34] <SomeT> was going to try
[18:34] <SomeT> symlink possibly, but thats coming from unix / mac os x
[18:34] <lighthunter> hello; i have just updated to Ubuntu 19.04 from 18.10 on my laptop that has an NVIDIA graphics card, and now I can no longer connect to my external monitor via HDMI. happy to provide further details as requested. i have tried switching back from gdm3 to lightdm since that was a crucial step when i faced the same bug on Ubuntu 18.04. i have also ensured that Wayland is disabled in
[18:34] <lighthunter>  /etc/gdm3/custom.conf since that was also a crucial step when facing this bug on Ubuntu 18.04.
[18:35] <tomreyn> Brainiack: you will want to provide your ubuntu version and desktop environment / ubuntu flavour when asking questions specific to it.
[18:35] <Brainiack> 4.18.0-17-generic
[18:35] <Brainiack> tomreyn ==>4.18.0-17-generic
[18:36] <Brainiack>  4.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:36] <pizza_guy> hello
[18:37] <pizza_guy> I want to ask about docker and prometheus, is that possible to monitor an app inside the docker container and expose it to the prometheus?
[18:37] <SomeT> whats prometheus?
[18:37] <pizza_guy> https://prometheus.io/
[18:38] <SomeT> yeah it should be
[18:38] <pizza_guy> how?
[18:38] <SomeT> try #prometheus
[18:38] <SomeT> ;)
[18:38] <pizza_guy> ah, thanks in advance
[18:38] <SomeT> np
[18:38] <SomeT> not to keen on docker myself, to many flaws right now
[18:39] <jje> ccccccjfkvhldbicdlnlditcnjehheveflirviujcgke
[18:39] <jje> ccccccjfkvhleldbvvieklnljirkbvhrkfcbvjdnhndl
[18:39] <jje> sorry
[18:40] <SomeT> whats wrong with you man?
[18:40] <SomeT> are you ok?
[18:41] <benharri> yubikey
[18:49] <SomeT> how do I set my time to daylight savings on ubuntu server?
[18:49] <SomeT> its currently one hour behind
[18:49] <cryptodan> SomeT: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
[18:51] <jojero> Hi! Anyone can help me installing powerline on ubuntu 18.04? I restart already but the powerline still not activated
[18:52] <tomreyn> jojero: powerline, as in a software? or an ethernet connection?
[18:52] <KWhat4> Hi, I cant seem to find a package for reptyr
[18:53] <leftyfb> KWhat4: what version of ubuntu?
[18:53] <KWhat4> 18.04
[18:53] <SomeT> thanks that worked perfectly
[18:53] <leftyfb> KWhat4: sudo add-apt-repository && sudo apt update   # then install it
[18:54] <Loeb> How do I force the vfio_pci module to load before the nvidia module during boot?
[18:54] <KWhat4> leftyfb: Which repo?  I've already added universe...
[18:54] <leftyfb> KWhat4: it's part of the universe repo. If you're not seeing it, you have other issues. pastebin the output of: sudo apt update ; apt-cache policy reptyr
[18:56] <jojero> tomreyn software
[18:56] <Fah> jojero: assuming you have the addon manager installed just do " vim-addon-manager  install powerline"
[18:56] <jojero> I manage to hit the right loc now its showing but I cant see the branching for github
[18:56] <tomreyn> !info powerline
[18:56] <tomreyn> jojero: sudo apt update && sudp aop install powerline
[18:56] <leftyfb> jojero: I would read up on the documentation for powerline
[18:57] <tomreyn> jojero: sudo apt update && sudp apt install powerline
[18:57] <leftyfb> tomreyn: it's already installed
[18:57] <leftyfb> tomreyn: they don't know how to use it
[18:57] <tomreyn> leftyfb: how do you know?
[18:57] <leftyfb> "I restart already but the powerline still not activated"
[18:57] <mia> Hello channel
[18:57] <SomeT> hi
[18:58] <SomeT> what do you want?
[18:58] <mia> I'd like to know if it's possible to disable the curtain slide effect in ubuntu 18.04
[18:58] <tomreyn> leftyfb: i see
[18:58] <mia> I wasn't unable to find anything solid online
[18:58] <SomeT> is this ubuntu desktop?
[18:58] <jojero> tomreyn I install using pip is that okay?
[18:58] <mia> there seems to be an old extension, that does not seem to work with 18.04 LTS
[18:58] <jojero> leftyfb wait im gonna send imgur screenshots
[18:58] <leftyfb> mia: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/03/disable-gnome-shell-animation-on-ubuntu-1710-and-1804.html
[18:58] <SomeT> https://askubuntu.com/questions/967842/how-to-remove-phone-style-gnome-swipe-to-unlock
[18:58] <SomeT> mia
[18:59] <mia> SomeT, this does not seem to work with 18.04
[18:59] <mia> even though it says, it does
[18:59] <KWhat4> leftyfb: http://dpaste.com/2THXXRY
[18:59] <tomreyn> jojero: not strictly wrong, but we only support apt installations here normally.
[18:59] <leftyfb> mia: please see my link
[18:59] <tomreyn> + snaps
[18:59] <mia> leftyfb, checking
[18:59] <leftyfb> tomreyn: powerline is a package
[19:00] <tomreyn> leftyfb: i'm aware, why do you say so?
[19:00] <leftyfb> KWhat4: you're running ubuntu-ports(I assume ARM?). That package might not be available for your architecture
[19:00] <mia> leftyfb, oh, my earlier question: disable animations?
[19:00] <mia> is this an answer for that?
[19:00] <leftyfb> mia: yes
[19:00] <mia> I think I sort of figured out a way to disable the animations only for window resizing -- that's what I was looking for
[19:00] <mia> still thank you for sending me this, I really appreciate it! and I'm quite surprised that you remember this!
[19:00] <KWhat4> leftyfb: ah that would explain it
[19:01] <KWhat4> yes this is arm
[19:01] <leftyfb> mia: I didn't. I googled for "Ubuntu 18.04 disable effects"
[19:01] <mia> so, need a way to disable this curtain thing in the lock screen
[19:01] <mia> the swipe thing
[19:02] <mia> whatever it's called..
[19:02] <leftyfb> mia: you know you can just hit enter or start typing your password right?
[19:02] <mia> oh! let me try!
[19:02] <mia> OH WOW
[19:03] <mia> thanks leftyfb
[19:03] <mia> I'm new to all this and the visual language of this does not communicate with me perfectly
[19:03] <mia> so thanks for this manual guidance
[19:03] <mia> :)
[19:04] <jojero> tomreyn I can only see directory listing in powerline, I can't see the branch. :(
[19:04]  * SomeT thinks this is most friendly socially intelligent person to ever enter IRC lol
[19:05] <leftyfb> jojero: https://powerline.readthedocs.io/en/latest/   Please read the documentation on how to use powerline
[19:05] <tomreyn> jojero: i can't guide you on using this software, do not know it.
[19:06] <SomeT> #powerline
[19:06] <SomeT> ##powerline
[19:07] <leftyfb> SomeT: Please try to only provide helpful answers
[19:09] <SomeT> apologies
[19:20] <martind_> thank you guys. Have a nice night :)
[19:24] <lastebill1> what's the worst things about 19.04 in your opinion?  How buggy is it?
[19:25] <tomreyn> !ot | lastebill1
[19:25] <ducasse> lastebill1: that's not a support question, which is what we do here
[19:25] <jcotton> it also just came out
[19:28] <FTMichael> Anyone else having desktop issues after upgrading to 19.04? (Can't do a fresh install just yet but will in a few days)
[19:29] <tomreyn> FTMichael: better discuss the very issues you're seeing, polls don't work well here.
[19:30] <FTMichael> Fair. When I open the dash, it will not close. I can open an app from the dash, but the app is not clickable or usable. I haven't found anything to do except log out or reboot.
[19:30] <jojero> I fixed it yay! tomreyn, thanks btw!
[19:31] <tomreyn> jojero: i didn't do much, lefty pointed you to the docs, which probably helped.
[19:31] <FTMichael> Googling is getting me a bunch of results from 2013. :P
[19:31] <jojero> hihi still you guys help me thank you so much, my terminal is now so cool
[19:31] <tomreyn> FTMichael: does "dash" refer to the unity desktop environment there?
[19:32] <FTMichael> I guess? I press the Super key and it asks me to search for apps.
[19:32] <FTMichael> It's been a long long time since I upgraded instead of doing a fresh install. I upgraded from 18.10 to 19.04
[19:32] <leftyfb> FTMichael: what version did you upgrade from and was that a fresh install or upgraded as well?
[19:32] <tomreyn> FTMichael: can you show a screenshot?
[19:32] <FTMichael> The 18.10 was a fresh install
[19:32] <leftyfb> ok, so no, it's gnome, not Unity
[19:33] <FTMichael> Can't screenshot because nothing works once I open the dash.
[19:33] <tomreyn> FTMichael: probbaly gnome then, yes.
[19:34] <tomreyn> FTMichael: does ctrl-alt-t open a temrinal window, and can you run a command such as "echo" there (should just return to a new line)?
[19:34] <FTMichael> Yes.
[19:34] <tomreyn> FTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[19:34] <FTMichael> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/ofca
[19:35] <tomreyn> FTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[19:35] <FTMichael> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/jm57
[19:36] <tomreyn> FTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:36] <FTMichael> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/mjjm
[19:37] <tomreyn> FTMichael: you will need to get this fiexed:  E: The repository 'http://deb.playonlinux.com disco Release' does not have a Release file.
[19:37] <FTMichael> oh, that's more recent. That's not connected to the error. But I can fix that now
[19:37] <tomreyn> FTMichael: this is an apt repository you have configured, it may have worked before you upgraded, but it doe snot support ubuntu 19.04
[19:37] <tomreyn> FTMichael: correct, that's unrelated to the issue
[19:37] <FTMichael> No, I know. :) Just disabled that.
[19:38] <tomreyn> FTMichael: you may also want to look at this later: https://termbin.com/mjjm
[19:38] <tomreyn> FTMichael:  please run this, posting the http address returned here: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:38] <FTMichael> I was looking at it, but slightly unclear why apps like hexchat and audacity aren't supported
[19:39] <FTMichael> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/hhysg
[19:39] <tomreyn> FTMichael: they receive community support, this output is from a Canonoical perspective.
[19:39] <FTMichael> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/hhysq
[19:40] <tomreyn> FTMichael: take a look at the bottom of the latest post
[19:40] <FTMichael> tomreyn, looking at it, but not really sure what I'm looking at
[19:41] <Loeb> Ok so after doing some work trying to blacklist the nvidia driver and reload it later, I somehow got it to load later on in the boot process WITHOUT blacklisting it at any point. Why did this happen?
[19:41] <tomreyn> !info ayatana
[19:42] <OerHeks> what fixed it... sudo apt-get remove indicator-multiload from answer #7
[19:43] <tomreyn> OerHeks: that's for FTMichael, I suppose?
[19:43] <FTMichael> Is indicator-multiload my entire problem?
[19:43] <OerHeks> sorry, yes, FTMichael ^^
[19:43] <FTMichael> I'll try removing that
[19:43] <sonicwind> I had problems with indicator-multiload on my Gnome 18.04 LTS and had to remove it... there's a gnome extension that you can replace it with
[19:44] <tomreyn> FTMichael: try this, and logout and login.
[19:44] <FTMichael> tbh that indicator hasn't worked well for quite a while. Just hadn't found anything better.
[19:44] <FTMichael> Right, relogging
[19:44] <antonino> hi all
[19:45] <FTMichael_Androi> Nope. Problem persists.
[19:46] <tomreyn> FTMichael: what your system log (which you can always access using journalctl -b) showed was that an error message regarding ayatana is constantly thrown. i assume OerHeks searched the web for this error message and came up with the finding he posted here.
[19:47] <OerHeks> from bug #1768127 and #1739468
[19:47] <tomreyn> FTMichael: i suggest you reboot fully, then post "journalctl -b" again
[19:47] <FTMichael> I rebooted, tomreyn. https://termbin.com/up1u
[19:48] <tomreyn> this error message seems ot be gone, though, that's a good start
[19:48] <sonicwind> FTMichael, , the gnome extension "system-monitor" is the replacement I've read about for indicator-multiload.
[19:48] <FTMichael> Noted, sonicwind. Thanks :)
[19:48] <FTMichael> When I get this sorted I'll go have a look
[19:50] <tomreyn> FTMichael: i'm reading your log, may take another 5-10 minutes
[19:50] <FTMichael> Much appreciated tomreyn :)
[19:55] <OerHeks> FTMichael, redshift, does that ring a bell?
[19:56] <FTMichael> OerHeks, I do also have redshift and saw that it's also connected to ayatana, but it doesn't seem to throw that same error
[19:57] <atheodo> hi
[19:57] <atheodo> building a new ubuntu box with M.2 and an HDD and SSD
[19:58] <atheodo> my plan is hook up the M.2 only and install ubuntu
[19:58] <tomreyn> FTMichael: maybe we'll make better progress by asking you whihc non standard configurations you have
[19:58] <_genuser_> hello people. I'm trying to see if I can upgrade nodejs to 8 or higher. But the in the repos, all it shows is 4.2.6. that's pretty old. Is there a way to get the higher versions? Or does one have to install from source?
[19:58] <atheodo> once that is done, shut down hook up HD and SSD, restart and use Disks to format the SSD and HDD
[19:58] <atheodo> do you see any issues with that plan?>
[19:58] <_genuser_> on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[19:59] <tomreyn> FTMichael: i don't see other obvious major issues on the logs. you have some gnome shell extensions which may be causing trouble.
[19:59] <tomreyn> FTMichael: and an nvidia prime configuration apparently
[19:59] <_Sym_> _genuser_, I think the issue with upgrading nodejs on ubuntu 16.04 is related to upgrading openssl
[19:59] <_genuser_> atheodo: sounds fine. any reason you don't want to connect all of them together first?
[19:59] <tomreyn> !ppa | _genuser_
[20:00] <_genuser_> tomreyn: thanks. IO
[20:00] <_genuser_> I'll go look there first.
[20:00] <FTMichael> tomreyn, I was already using a proprietary nvidia driver, but I upgraded it to the tested one after upgrading to 19.04. I hoped that might help resolve the dash issue. No effect though
[20:00] <_genuser_> _Sym_: thanks.
[20:01] <mike802> have you bothered checking with your dev team about actual coding issues?
[20:01] <tomreyn> FTMichael: did you have more 3rd party software package repositories configured before the upgrade than you have now?
[20:01] <FTMichael> tomreyn, extensions I have: Alternate Tab (which I think I read that I no longer need in 19.04), desktop icons (which I don't want and I'm sure I didn't install), Ubuntu AppIndicators, Ubuntu Dock, and Workspace Grid
[20:02] <FTMichael> Prior to the upgrade, it was just that one that gave an apt error. The upgrade disabled it; I re-enabled it after the upgrade; it gave an apt error, which  you saw. I've now disabled that again
[20:02] <tomreyn> FTMichael: dpkg -l gnome-shell-extension*
[20:02] <mike802> even if this terrible idea of yours DID work, some teams use the version they are familiar with ON PURPOSE
[20:02] <tomreyn> FTMichael: ^ this lists the packaged extensions you have installed, 3 of them comae along with the ubuntu desktop
[20:03] <tomreyn> ! who | mike802
[20:03] <FTMichael> tomreyn, appindicator, autohidetopbar, caffeine, dash-to-panel, dashtodock, desktop-icons, multi-monitors, pixelsaver, taskbar, top-icons-plus, ubuntu-dock, workspaces-to-dock
[20:04] <tomreyn> FTMichael: quite a few. i can't comment on those, but would recommend you try whether the same issues occur with those disabled first of all.
[20:04] <FTMichael> tomreyn, how do I disable them via the command line?
[20:04] <OerHeks> dashtodock https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock/+bug/1819086
[20:05] <FTMichael> Or via GUI, but https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ gave me an incomplete list.
[20:05] <OerHeks> that immediatly rings a bell
[20:06] <OerHeks> Dash to Panel and Dash to Dock are not working anymore.
[20:06] <FTMichael> Disabled a few, let me try a relog.
[20:06] <tomreyn> FTMichael: gnome shell extensions are quite version dependant, you need to use those that are known to work with your verison of gnome-shell
[20:08] <FTMichael_Androi> SUCCESS
[20:08] <FTMichael_Androi> I think it was Workspace Grid
[20:09] <sonicwind> awesome
[20:09] <tomreyn> FTMichael: gnome shell extensions are quite version dependant, you need to use those that are known to work with your verison of gnome-shell
[20:09] <tomreyn> FTMichael_Androi: ^
[20:10] <FTMichael> tomreyn, thanks so much :) I disabled most of them but Workspace Grid had an Error icon and wouldn't let me disable. Restarted and had the same error. Fully removed Workspace Grid and Alternate Tab, restarted again, and it seems to work now
[20:11] <tomreyn> FTMichael: very well, this hopefully scaled down on the amount of   gnome-shell[PID]: JS ERROR: ...   you have in your system journal, too.
[20:11] <FTMichael> https://termbin.com/9mlg
[20:11] <FTMichael> That does look calmer
[20:13] <tomreyn> nice. it'll add some over time, but it looks good now
[20:14] <FTMichael> tomreyn, thanks again! You saved me from a whole lot of aggravation. :)
[20:14] <OerHeks> !cookie | tomreyn
[20:15] <tomreyn> !cookie | OerHeks
[20:15] <tomreyn> FTMichael: you're welcome
[20:19] <tomreyn> FTMichael_Androi: btw. you might want to take a look at https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z390%20Phantom%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS
[20:19] <tomreyn> yours is BIOS P1.20 09/04/2018
[20:20] <s3nd1v0g1us> I accidentally deleted the folder icon from the desktop/dash. How can i replace it?
[20:20] <s3nd1v0g1us> Im on budgie, 18.10
[20:21] <leftyfb> s3nd1v0g1us: folder icon?
[20:21] <CyberManifest> I'm trying to install a package and I get the Error: Wrong architecture 'amd64' -- Run dpkg --add-architecture to add it and update afterwards; but I don't seem to understand the proper syntax; I tryed: 'dpkg --add-architecture aarch64 discord-0.0.9.deb' but that doesn't seem to work, I read dpkg --help but I obviously don't understand. Could someone please assist me in figuring this out?
[20:21] <s3nd1v0g1us> yes, the icon that is a folder and that allows you to open a window and explore one's files.
[20:22] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: what'S the output of dpkg --print-architecture
[20:22] <s3nd1v0g1us> lefyfb
[20:22] <jcotton> CyberManifest: sounds like the Discord deb doesn't have aarchy64 support
[20:22] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, arm64
[20:22] <s3nd1v0g1us> leftyfb the folder/file explorer icon.
[20:22] <jcotton> *aarch64
[20:23] <CyberManifest> jcotton, right but it sounds like there is a command to add it ?
[20:23] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: what jcotton says
[20:24] <jcotton> --add-architecture architecture
[20:24] <jcotton>               Add  architecture  to  the  list  of  architectures  for  which packages can be installed without using
[20:24] <jcotton>               --force-architecture
[20:24] <jcotton> it just lets you install amd64 packages
[20:24] <jcotton> but it won't work anyhow
[20:24] <allure> Hey guys. How do I disable the new dock keyboard shortcuts of meta+1, meta+2, etc on Ubuntu 19.04
[20:24] <allure> ?
[20:24] <jcotton> since you're on arm64
[20:24] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: you could add additional architectures to dpkg, which would enable you to install those packages. but this wouldn't enable your CPU to execute any binaries contained in those packages.
[20:24] <OerHeks> install the snap version ? https://snapcraft.io/discord
[20:24] <CyberManifest> oh that's very very sad :(
[20:24] <OerHeks> oh arm64, forget my post
[20:25] <dax> CyberManifest: please don't crosspost between #debian and #ubuntu. Use whichever channel matches the distro you're using.
[20:25] <s3nd1v0g1us> so how can i replace the folder icon to the dock/dash?
[20:25] <jcotton> s3nd1v0g1us: it's just Nautilus I think
[20:25] <jcotton> open it, then right click the icon > pin
[20:25] <jcotton> or w/e it's called
[20:25] <OerHeks> s3nd1v0g1us, drag it from the softwaremenu to the dock?
[20:26] <CyberManifest> dax, you weren't paying attention, I mentioned that it was wrong room, it was an accident [15:21:06] <CyberManifest> oops, I"m sorry wrong room
[20:26] <s3nd1v0g1us> thx.
[20:26] <dax> CyberManifest: ah, indeed. carry on :)
[20:26] <OerHeks> CyberManifest, so on what arch are you actually ? i386?
[20:26] <CyberManifest> arm64
[20:27] <OerHeks> as amd64 is wrong...
[20:27] <OerHeks> oke, no discord then :-(
[20:27] <s3nd1v0g1us> problem solved. :)
[20:27] <s3nd1v0g1us> i surely love IRC.
[20:27] <CyberManifest> yeah, very sad :(
[20:27] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: you may want to remove the foreign architecture if you previously added it
[20:28] <tomreyn> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[20:28] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, I think they all errored out anyways so nothing was added
[20:28] <tomreyn> ok
[20:28] <CyberManifest> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures #is only returning armhf (which should be kept)
[20:29] <jcotton> what's hf?
[20:29] <jcotton> in armhf
[20:29] <CyberManifest> hardware fixed or firm or something like that
[20:29] <CyberManifest> oh, no
[20:29] <OerHeks> armhf sounds like rasp pi
[20:29] <CyberManifest> hardware floatpoint
[20:30] <CyberManifest> OerHeks, yes raspberry pi does have armhf support
[20:31] <OerHeks> you might want to checkout purple-discord
[20:31] <OerHeks> !info purple-discord
[20:32] <OerHeks> debian gives a arm64 and armhf version https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=purple-discord
[20:32] <CyberManifest> what is libpurple?
[20:33] <Guest18706> hi everyone
[20:33] <Guest18706> i like ubuntu
[20:33] <allure> Hey guys. How do I disable the new dock keyboard shortcuts of meta+1, meta+2, etc on Ubuntu 19.04?
[20:33] <tomreyn> !info libpurple0
[20:34] <OerHeks> CyberManifest, sorry, never used it, it sounds like a message app .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/purple-discord
[20:34] <CyberManifest> OerHeks, but this Ubuntu isn't based on either of those debian cores (buster, or sid) it's on (stretch) I believe
[20:35] <dax> purple-discord is a plugin for libpurple. libpurple is the IM library used by pidgin (plus a couple of other things)
[20:35] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: libpurple is a generic chat protocol library, which can be used by multiple GUIs. the most known software to use it will be pidgin.
[20:35] <dax> i suspect just using the discord web UI is going to be less crufty than trying to pipe it through pidgin, but ymmv
[20:35] <scooterd> hey guys need some help system trying to update but wont says ck internet connection
[20:35] <tomreyn> also less TOS violating
[20:36] <OerHeks> installing purple-discord would pull those packages in.. easy to check it out
[20:36] <fury> i'm having trouble getting my installer to recognize my new 1 TB SSD as the primary drive, it keeps putting it off to /dev/nvme1n1 and leaving the existing 512 GB drive as nvme0n1. i tried swapping them around in the M.2 card to no avail...tried removing the 512 GB drive, installing on the 1 TB, then reinstalling the 512 GB drive, then it wants to boot from the 512 GB drive again >.> what am i doing wrong? i have LVM on both
[20:36] <CyberManifest> I'll just open Discord in browser, I don't want to have to install pidgin extra bloat
[20:36] <Ben64> fury: why does it matter what it's called
[20:37] <fury> i don't know, just want it to boot from the 1 TB instead of the other one
[20:37] <tomreyn> scooterd: what does "wont says ck internet connection" mean?
[20:37] <fury> i've set it higher in the boot list in bios
[20:38] <Ben64> maybe it isn't bootable
[20:38] <fury> i just installed ubuntu on it about 30 minutes ago, told it "erase disk and install ubuntu" and "use lvm..."
[20:38] <scooterd> TOMsystem wont update says to ck connection when it is ok
[20:38] <fury> then when i put the 512 gig drive back in, it's like it can't boot from it at all
[20:39] <Ben64> did you make sure to install grub onto it
[20:39] <fury> yeah. if i take the 512 gig drive out, it'll boot up
[20:39] <tomreyn> fury: changing the boot order on your mainboard (UEFI?) firmware won't necessarily (probably not) change the irinitalization order. There are some firmwares which offer you to scan different types of buses before others, but in the end it really boild down to "why does it matter"?
[20:40] <scooterd> TOMREYN my firefox has been weird all day now all favorits missing too
[20:40] <fury> i wish i knew why it mattered... i can't seem to get it to pick the 1 tb drive as the bootup drive
[20:40] <tomreyn> scooterd: have you tried to reboot since?
[20:40] <fury> uefi yep
[20:41] <fury> both are M.2 nvme drives, on the same card, which has 4 slots, 0-3...tried putting the 1tb in 0 and the 512gb in 1, and vice versa
[20:41] <scooterd> tomryen yes have restarted couple of times
[20:41] <scaba> theres probably a way to select the drive in your bios fury
[20:41] <tomreyn> scooterd: what is the meaning of "says to ck connection when it is ok"?
[20:41] <bilb_ono> what do you do when sudo doesn't work ? sudo rm -rf <Some dir>
[20:41] <bilb_ono> permission denied
[20:42] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: you notice you weren't supposed to run this command in the first place and give up on it.
[20:42] <scooterd> tomryen internet is ok can browse but in pop up window says can't upload check internet connection
[20:43] <tomreyn> scooterd: do you know how to work in a terminal?
[20:43] <bilb_ono> tomreyn, but I dont want that directory there
[20:43] <scooterd> tomryen when trying to update ubuntu
[20:43] <bilb_ono> I want to remake it in fact
[20:43] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: which ubuntu version are you running, which directory are you trying to delete, do you run in a containment or virtualization environment?
[20:43] <scooterd> tomryen newby but have before
[20:44] <tomreyn> scooterd: please run this ina terminal and report the http address it returns here:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[20:44] <bilb_ono> ubuntu 18. Trying to delete :/mnt/c/main/FemtoTest/TowerLightSensor/trunk/TowerLightSensor. Running ubuntu in a Linux Shell on windows
[20:45] <tomreyn> scooterd: please run this in a terminal and report the http address it returns here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[20:45] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | bilb_ono
[20:45] <tomreyn> !wsl | bilb_ono
[20:46] <jcotton> bilb_ono: sudo in WSL doesn't mean anything to Widfows
[20:46] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: the issue there will be that you are not allowed to delete this directory from WSL, you'll need to do this from within windows instead.
[20:46] <jcotton> you can do it from WSL, but only if you start the shell as admin
[20:46] <jcotton> assuming needing admin is the issue here
[20:47] <bilb_ono> ah interesting
[20:47] <bilb_ono> and lame
[20:47] <tomreyn> well, wrong channel anyways, please move to #wsl
[20:47] <bilb_ono> ok thanks
[20:47] <tomreyn> at least for anything WSL specific
[20:47] <jcotton> certain aspects of WSL are also topical in ##windows
[20:47] <_genuser_> jcotton: quit ubuntu'ing.
[20:47] <scooterd> tomryen forget how to get terminal up sorry
[20:48] <jcotton> i dualboot :P
[20:48] <tomreyn> scooterd: ctrl-alt-t
[20:49] <scooterd> tomryen  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[20:50] <jcotton> why the `sudo /bin/true`?
[20:50] <tomreyn> jcotton: to have sudo cache the password.
[20:51] <tomreyn> scooterd: this is not a terminal window
[20:51] <jcotton> ic
[20:51] <scooterd> tomryen https://termbin.com/3eurj
[20:52] <tomreyn> scooterd: since my nickname is difficult to type correctely, you can just type "tomr", then press tab
[20:52] <scooterd> tomr ok
[20:53] <tomreyn> scooterd: oh this does not seem to work on the web chat you're using. just ignore my remark then.
[20:53] <tomreyn> scooterd: you didn't post the url produced by the first series of commands i posted, yet.
[20:54] <tomreyn> scooterd: as a reminder, this was: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[20:56] <deadmarshal> i have installed portaudio. how should i initialize it?
[20:57] <scooterd> tomreyn it wont produce a url ??
[20:58] <soee> Hi could you point me to some tutorial how can i resize my ext4 partition withoiut removeing it as it has live  data
[20:58] <tomreyn> scooterd: does it report an error?
[20:59] <fury> i've managed to lock up the installer, woo. ubi-partman failed with exit code 141...
[20:59] <OerHeks> soee, resize as in making it larger, can be done with gparted. not smaller, that requires a live iso.
[20:59] <fury> what it seems to come down to is that it does not like me telling it to set up LVM on the new drive while the old one is still there (upon which i did the same thing when i installed ubuntu there...)
[20:59] <OerHeks> and "live data " is no such thing on a HDD
[21:00] <OerHeks> tip: always have a backup before doing somthing with partitions
[21:00] <soee> OerHeks: i have VPS, m,y provider chnaged plan to bigger one. I have now 20 GB ext4 partition and i should be able now to resize it to 80 GB
[21:01] <soee> now i wonder how can i do this
[21:01] <scooterd> tomreyn no it has  my system 18.04   and other  too no error code
[21:01] <OerHeks> soee, maybe your VPS vendor gives a admin panel, maybe from there? did you read their docs?
[21:02] <fury> cool. now i can't even boot off the flash drive anymore O_o
[21:02] <fury> i have the worst luck
[21:02] <tomreyn> scooterd: please run these commands and post the output to https://paste.ubuntu,com , then post the http address of it here:   lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline}
[21:02] <fury> something something mmx64.efi not found
[21:02] <fury> then it shuts off
[21:02] <fury> sigh
[21:03] <soee> OerHeks: they pointed me to https://falstaff.agner.ch/2013/12/22/online-resize-root-filesystem-on-a-gpt-partition/
[21:03] <soee> :/
[21:03] <tomreyn> fury: make sure you installation media was properly written, and before that, that your installer iso downloaded correctly
[21:03] <fury> it seemed to be. i used ubuntu's startup disk creator to write it, and for the first hour or two it's been booting up from the flash drive fine when it was in there
[21:03] <tomreyn> !md5 | fury
[21:04] <tomreyn> fury: i usually use https://etcher.io to create bootable removable media from iso files
[21:05] <tomreyn> it does a validation step after writing the iso.
[21:05] <fury> "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed"
[21:05] <fury> hmm. guess i'll boot back up with the old drive and retry flashing it with etcher
[21:06] <xamithan> soee: What's wrong with that guide?  Looks fine unless you are using LVM
[21:06] <bprompt> fury:    when booting from an external drive, you'd need to let it shutdown completely by itself, if you ever forced a poweroff by simply holding-down the power button, that'd shut it off but many unwritten files will remain and the disk filesystem will be rendered broken or incomplete, thus unbootable
[21:07] <OerHeks> soee, that guide deletes data, try gparted? simply drag the partition endmarker wider over the unused space
[21:07] <tomreyn> soee: you won't get another warning on the need to have current and complete backups.
[21:08] <scooterd> tomreyn buntu 18.04.2 LTS cat: /proc/{version,cmdline: No such file or directory
[21:08] <tomreyn> scooterd: you are not a professional at copy and paste. ;-)
[21:09] <tomreyn> scooterd: thanks anyways, we'll go with what we have for now.
[21:09] <tomreyn> scooterd: look at https://termbin.com/3eurj - what you posted earlier
[21:10] <tomreyn> scooterd: right on top you see the output of "sudo apt update" - this reports an error (E:) and two warnings (W:). you need to fix these.
[21:10] <tomreyn> scooterd: start with the error message
[21:10] <soee> OerHeks: yup, i do not want to wipe my data out
[21:11] <fury> nope, can't even boot from the original 512 gb drive now, same error "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed"... wat
[21:12] <tomreyn> scooterd: run    sudo apt update    now, and if you're happy with this change, accept it.
[21:14] <tomreyn> fury: "mok" refers to secure boot. if secure boot is enabled, temporarily disabling it may help you boot.
[21:14] <fury> just tried that, no go... seems my mistake was checking "Install third-party drivers" which required some key to be put in, but then because i couldn't finish the installation, it never managed to put that key manager anywhere
[21:16] <tomreyn> fury: the key you entered there was probably the secure boot initialization / administration key, which ubuntu would have stored to your mainboard.
[21:17] <scooterd> tomreyn Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[21:17] <tomreyn> in the worst case, the installation failed while writing this key to the mainboards' persistent storage, in which case you'll probably not be able to boot any operating system until you reset the mainboard's seccure boot enrollment state.
[21:18] <fury> i don't see anything like that in the setup - just a simple on/off switch for secure boot
[21:19] <tomreyn> fury: so you can still boot?
[21:19] <tomreyn> scooterd: please post the entire output
[21:19] <tomreyn> scooterd: alternatively, consider reinstalling
[21:20] <fury> nope, secure boot off or on, same error message
[21:20] <fury> doesn't matter which drive i select, the flash drive or the 512 gb drive
[21:20] <fury> there is a legacy boot option but it seems to ignore that too
[21:21] <tomreyn> fury: do you know which mainboard / computer model you have there?
[21:21] <fury> dell precision 7810
[21:21] <scooterd> tomreyn in paste bin now
[21:22] <tomreyn> scooterd: okay, we'll need to url here
[21:23] <tomreyn> fury: do you have another computer you can create an installer / livecd from?
[21:23] <fury> yes, downloading ubuntu again from a laptop
[21:23] <fury> which also happens to be running ubuntu
[21:24] <tomreyn> there is this for precision 3520 / kaby lake *and later systems* https://www.dell.com/support/article/de/de/dedhs1/sln301692/no-boot-device-found-when-you-change-the-boot-sequence-to-legacy-mode?lang=en
[21:25] <fury> yeah, just got that error message now, which i guess makes sense because it was installed as a uefi boot not legacy mode
[21:25] <scooterd> tomreyn dont see any url in output ??
[21:26] <tomreyn> scooterd: it's in the address bar of your web browser
[21:26] <fury> and i followed those same steps to turn uefi boot back on and that's when i get the "something has gone seriously wrong"
[21:26] <scooterd> tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4y3zYpRQxx/
[21:28] <tomreyn> fury: i searched the web for this message you posted previously - "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed" - but found nothing. maybe it's not actually a message printed by ubuntu / Linux but by the firmware. hard to tell.
[21:28] <tomreyn> scooterd: take a backup and reinstall
[21:28] <fury> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1109639/ubuntu-18-04-on-acer-spin-5-with-efi-boot-mmx64-efi-not-found
[21:29] <soee> i used parted and resizepart command
[21:29] <soee> than also resize2fs
[21:30] <tomreyn> fury: which ubuntu version were you trying to install there?
[21:30] <scooterd> tomreyn is that like a back up on windows and where do i find that
[21:30] <fury> 18.04
[21:30] <tomreyn> fury: .0, .1, .2?
[21:30] <fury> .2
[21:30] <fury> sorry. just found this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171 looks like something's been fixed for it in 18.10
[21:31] <tomreyn> !backup | scooterd
[21:31] <fury> i don't know if my stuff will work in 18.10 or 19.04 but i suppose worth a shot
[21:31] <donofrio> what channel would I goto to use TeX to perhaps remove a layer from a pdf?
[21:32] <fury> 18.04 was what i was running previously, on the 512 gb drive, before i got the bright idea to install the new faster 1 tb drive
[21:32] <fury> never had that issue, i had the third party drivers and all
[21:37] <tomreyn> fury: good find, this bug report. i'm still reading it.
[21:38] <CodeMouse92> Here's what seems to be a new weird phenomenon...
[21:39] <fury> what could possibly go wrong on a friday at 3:00 when i get my new goodies from the IT department and i'm about to start a company blog? :D
[21:39] <CodeMouse92> My system password (Ubuntu 19.04...Budgie, although this has nothing to do with the DE AFAIK) keeps *randomly resertting*
[21:39] <fury> i'll just go ahead and install a new SSD and try and put ubuntu on it while i'm working on it and ...oh, now i've broken it completely
[21:39] <CodeMouse92> I set it back to what it is SUPPOSED to be via recovery mode, and it works for a while...
[21:40] <CodeMouse92> And then, it randomly stops working. I slow way down in typing to ensure there's no entry errors.
[21:40] <CodeMouse92> (Possibly unrelated, GPG keeps randomly timing out in local operations; if that's unrelated, I'll address it separately later.)
[21:40] <CodeMouse92> Thoughts?
[21:41] <CodeMouse92> (aaaaaaaaaaand...password is back to working. Like I said, it goes in and out. Something's odd, and the GPG timeouts MAY be related)
[21:42] <tomreyn> fury: so before you broke it completely, installing with secureboot disabled, from an ubuntu 18.04.2 alternative server installer *daily image*, should fix it.
[21:43] <tomreyn> alternatively the latest current mini.iso
[21:44] <ducasse> CodeMouse92: anything in the logs, like disk errors?
[21:44] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: resetting to what? how do you recover it when the password resets?
[21:45] <lighthunter> is there a channel that would be good to ask about an Ubuntu/NVIDIA graphics card compatibility issue? specifically, when i upgraded from Ubuntu 18.10 to 19.04, i lost the ability to connect my laptop to an external monitor.
[21:45] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: I honestly don't know WHAT it resets to. It fails, even if I double-check the password, c/p it, slow down, whatever. So, I have to reset it with recovery mode.
[21:45] <CodeMouse92> ducasse: Hmm. Good possibility. Remind me again where to find those?
[21:46] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: oh you use recovery mode to reset it aqfter it changed to a value you don't know, got it now.
[21:46] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:46] <iamanewbie> How to fix over 100 file names? Example: https://i.snag.gy/HgaRFA.jpg
[21:46] <ducasse> CodeMouse92: journalctl or /var/log/syslog or kern.log
[21:47] <tomreyn> lighthunter: here's a good place, but i won't personally be able to help.
[21:47] <tomreyn> iamanewbie: /join #bash
[21:47] <lighthunter> ty, tomreyn. any suggestions on which user might know or when to ask?
[21:47] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Yeah, I'll run that in a sec. nc didn't spit back the link (I've used that before)...
[21:48] <lighthunter> i realize it is a highly specialized question.
[21:48] <tomreyn> lighthunter: any time you like really. can't recommend anyone specifically. if you get no replies on the first try, try again later
[21:48] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: I had to dump the whole journalctl... -b doesn't play well with pipes. https://termbin.com/3o9i
[21:48] <CodeMouse92> ducasse: CC ^^^^
[21:48] <lighthunter> he he, fair enough; will do.
[21:50] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: normally piping   journalctl -b    works fine, but termbin.com will close the connection after some seconds, maybe it took to long to read the log.
[21:51] <tomreyn> so this is a W65_67SZ notebook, BIOS 1.03.06RNS1 07/28/2014
[21:51] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: "Time out" seems to be the theme of the day, TBH. Which is weird. HDD has no bad sectors, I'm running 12GB RAM on a quad-core, 8-thread i7. ("New" computer). Timeout should not be a thing here.
[21:52] <tomreyn> the log states that the bios is broken, you should look for a bios update
[21:52] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Uhm...well, that would be weird, because I literally JUST got this back from Sys76 two days ago.
[21:52] <CodeMouse92> New motherboard, tested extensively
[21:52] <CodeMouse92> Fresh OS install, too
[21:53] <tomreyn> i'm just telling you what i rea don your log.
[21:54] <tomreyn> Apr 18 11:38:25 tardis kernel: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!
[21:54] <tomreyn>                                BIOS vendor: American Megatrends Inc.; Ver: 1.03.06RNS1; Product Version: Not Applicable
[21:54] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Fair enough. Seeing it now, I think you can ignore that. I hit a couple of obstacles with an old install.
[21:54] <CodeMouse92> Yesterday
[21:55] <CodeMouse92> So, that was probably leftover from the OS knowing the old bios, seeing something new, and having a snit. It wasn't even seeing the 8 threads.
[21:55] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: that's the latest boot log you posted, though
[21:55] <CodeMouse92> Ah...hm. Why is the date off by one?
[21:55] <tomreyn> because you tried to post ALL logs, not just the latest boot (-b)
[21:56] <cuddylier> Does anyone know why if I X11 forward an application from a docker container to the host system via SSH, it's actually quicker than opening the application directly on the host? I'm using Xfce for the GUI on the Ubuntu 18.04 host.
[21:56] <tomreyn> and then it got cut off
[21:56] <CodeMouse92> It's 19 April here...
[21:56] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: OH! Fair, okay, let me see...
[21:56] <CodeMouse92> and NOW nc behaves
[21:56] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn, ducasse: try this. -b worked now: https://termbin.com/5vvv
[21:57] <CodeMouse92> Hm. Still "broken"...which, like I said, is alarming since I JUST got this back from System76 with a fresh mobo
[21:58] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: the mainboard is probably fine, just the firmware isnt
[22:01] <CodeMouse92> Ugh, there goes the password again
[22:01] <CodeMouse92> GPG has been trying to generate entropy this whole time too :\
[22:02] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: DMAR is DMA (direct memory access) request remapping. this is done as a security measure by the IOMMU (input/output memory management unit). on some firmware you can choose to disable IOMMU, thus the protection, and thus DMAR. not safe in the long run, but it could work around these issues. on the other hand, i think linux is already disabling DMAR in this situation, keeping IOMMU intact, which is safer.
[22:03] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: you also have ACPI warninrgs there.
[22:03] <CodeMouse92> Well, I would DEARLY like to check for firmware updates, but the password just fritzed again
[22:04] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: BRB, restarting darned computer
[22:13] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Back. i had to reset the password AGAIN
[22:13] <CodeMouse92> Something's definitely wrong here. Even the keyring does this
[22:13] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: you have what looks like physical storage errors at Apr 19 09:50:56 tardis kernel: ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x83c78080 SErr 0x50000 action 0x6 frozen
[22:14] <tomreyn> also you have gdbus failing, but this may be a side effect:  Apr 19 09:54:13 tardis kernel: gdbus[11456]: segfault
[22:14] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: What, failing harddrive?
[22:14] <fury> so i reflashed 18.04.2 with etcher and same deal. in the "crazy hackjob" department, i've simply renamed grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi on the 18.04.2 flash drive, i am back in the ubuntu installer, and my 1 TB drive is now showing up as the first drive, only, i'm just getting an "Installation type" -> "Select drive" loop...goes back to installation type asking me whether i want to erase disk and install Ubuntu
[22:14] <fury> i am flashing another USB drive with 19.04 and will try that if i can't get this going soon...
[22:14] <OerHeks> CodeMouse92, why not fix the bios update first?
[22:15] <CodeMouse92> OerHeks: I have no idea how. I'm trying the System76 firmware updater now...
[22:15] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: that's what it looks like. boot from a liveusb and run    sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda ; sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda
[22:15] <CodeMouse92> But if the BIOS is screwed up, that's on THEM, not me. I paid enough money
[22:15] <Bashing-om> fury: "check disk for defects" ?
[22:15] <OerHeks> CodeMouse92, oh, then it is our problem now :-D
[22:15] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: do the bioss update from the live usb, too, this current installation is not reliable
[22:17]  * CodeMouse92 weeps
[22:17] <fury> Bashing-om: it seems to have an issue with the LVM i attempted to put on it during a previous install, it won't let me do anything with the partition table, and i can't get a terminal open from the installer either
[22:17] <fury> ctrl+alt+f2 to the rescue
[22:17] <tomreyn> fury: 18.04.2 release won't work, you'll need the latest current build
[22:17] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: It's highly unlikely there's a BIOS update to be had, honestly...
[22:17] <CodeMouse92> They did that when it was in
[22:18] <fury> oops
[22:18] <tomreyn> fury: told you above ;)
[22:18] <fury> i tried to find that and i couldn't see where to download anything newer than .2 for 18.04
[22:18] <fury> unless you mean 19.04 is the latest current build i need to try
[22:18] <tomreyn> so instead of asking you decided to use the one whic wouldnt work?
[22:18] <mike802> updates are typically fixes.  if you're confused about what's being updated, you might want ot visit forums or contact a support/dev team
[22:19] <fury> yeah, i was trying one of the earlier suggestions of reflashing with etcher first
[22:19] <fury> all the dailies point to 19.04, is that the one you mean?
[22:19] <mike802> :/
[22:19] <OerHeks> https://support.system76.com/articles/laptop-firmware/
[22:19] <mike802> fury: corruption...
[22:19] <CodeMouse92> OerHeks: I already know about that. Done, and nothing
[22:19] <tomreyn> fury: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/
[22:19] <CodeMouse92> Checked, that is
[22:19] <CodeMouse92> No updates available
[22:20] <fury> whew. dunno why i couldn't find that one O_o thanks!
[22:20] <CodeMouse92> I'll restart into LIVE and check the hard drive, but SMART tests have been passing, soooooooooo
[22:20] <CodeMouse92> BRB :(
[22:20] <tomreyn> fury: but actually we only know the debian-installer is fixed, so maybe let's use that instead.
[22:22] <fury> tomreyn: debian installer, as in the graphical thing that comes up after booting the live USB?
[22:22] <tomreyn> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/current/
[22:22] <fury> oh that one
[22:22] <tomreyn> wait, no
[22:22] <tomreyn> that's live
[22:23] <tomreyn> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily/current/
[22:23] <tomreyn> fury: ^ this
[22:24] <fury> tomreyn: is that still going to have the desktop environment? this's a workstation meant for Qt app development among other things (a CI runner)
[22:24] <tomreyn> fury: thsi is the classic server installer. you can install the desktop from it either after installation by running   "apt install ubuntu-desktop" or by selecting the ubuntu-desktop ttarget during installation (may be better in terms of usability)
[22:24] <fury> ah ok
[22:24] <fury> cool
[22:24] <fury> thanks, will download and try that
[22:29] <tomreyn> fury: i would very much recommend a firmware upgrade to you as well. the ubuntu changelog statement was very polite but indirectly suggests this can be a firmware error. also this seems to only affect certain dell models.
[22:29] <fury> makes sense - i don't think i've updated the firmware on this thing at all
[22:29] <fury> couple years old :X
[22:30] <jcotton> if an in-OS firmware updater doesn't work then you can also do an update from the BIOS
[22:30] <jcotton> at least, supposedly
[22:32] <oil_boi> how do I enable the ubuntu login sound? :D
[22:32] <oil_boi> Or is there a way to make startup sounds via the mac style bong during startup
[22:32] <tomreyn> jcotton: this really depends a lot on the firmware in my experience.
[22:32] <tomreyn> do you know about this model / series? dell precision 7810
[22:33] <jcotton> I have an XPS
[22:33] <jcotton> so no
[22:34] <oil_boi> Also, how do I cast to my samsung tv like in Windows 10's connect to wireless display?
[22:34] <jcotton> seems to be the page for it tho https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/precision-t7810-workstation/manuals
[22:34] <jcotton> oil_boi: that uses Miracast
[22:34] <jcotton> you need a compatible WiFi card
[22:35] <oil_boi> jcotton, but I could do it through the LAN with my standard ethernet on windows 10??
[22:35] <tomreyn> fury: oh look, dell released a firmware upgrade on apr 09 "Fixed an issue with Secure Boot Option Rom Signature Verification."
[22:35] <fury> HAHAHA i just saw that
[22:35] <jcotton> don't think Miracast works over Ethernet
[22:35] <jcotton> fu
[22:35] <jcotton> ack
[22:36] <jcotton> fury: according to dell f12 will bring up a boot menu
[22:36] <jcotton> an update option would be there, if anywhere
[22:36] <jcotton> https://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/precision-t7810-workstation_owners-manual_en-us.pdf
[22:36] <jcotton> BIOS on this page https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/precision-t7810-workstation/drivers
[22:37] <jcotton> also says you can install from DOS
[22:37] <fury> hmm. don't have dos handy
[22:37] <jcotton> FreeDOS might work
[22:38] <jcotton> but try that F12 bit
[22:38] <jcotton> my XPS knows how to get the image out of the exe
[22:38] <fury> 18.04.2 managed to install with my hackjobbed flash drive that had grubx64.efi renamed to mmx64.efi...now wondering if i should touch it at all or just leave it
[22:39] <fury> still gonna try to update teh bios tho
[22:40] <tomreyn> fury: you need a usb drive with a fat32 file system on the first partition, and the .exe file on it. the firmware should be able to flash from that when you press F12 at the dell boot logo screen.
[22:41] <fury> yep, bios flash update in the boot menu, woohoo
[22:42] <tomreyn> dell also supports mainboard firmware upgrades from linux on some hardware. not sure they support yours.
[22:42] <fury> doesn't seem so, didn't spot a linux download from the downloads page. no biggie tho. it's updating now
[22:43] <fury> yeesh. 3 hours later, updated bios, and a working ubuntu install, simple as that
[22:43] <fury> think i'm just gonna not touch secure boot with a 10 foot pole
[22:44] <tomreyn> firmware is no different than software. don't use early releases for longer than strictly necessary.
[22:44] <jcotton> Ubuntu works pretty well with SB
[22:44] <jcotton> IME
[22:46] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: how's your firmware + HDD coming?
[22:46] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Terrible.
[22:47] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: HDD is fine. No problems. Passed test
[22:47] <CodeMouse92> Firmware update fails, can't even recognize this machine.
[22:47] <CodeMouse92> Same errors in journalctl -b from LIVE
[22:47] <CodeMouse92> Contacted system76, back to waiting.....again.....................
[22:49] <tomreyn> hmm, that's not ideal. this could also be broken memory modules. i didn't check, but if you have mutliple you could do some cross checking there as well. or just have system76 handle it.
[22:49] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: so you sis the short smart check on the hdd and waited for it to complete?
[22:50] <tomreyn> sis -> did
[22:50] <tomreyn> i had expected this to take longer
[22:50] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: y
[22:52] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Nope. Short test is 2 minutes. (I do those a lot.)
[22:52] <CodeMouse92> Long test is about 11 hours (ha). Not really needed here, I was using this same HDD in the last laptop, checked it regularly.
[22:52] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: oh that short, i wasn't aware, i always do the long ones ;)
[22:52] <CodeMouse92> Heh, yeah. I think the fact that journalctl is the same rules it out, TBH
[22:53] <CodeMouse92> So, really, no grounds to spend 11 hours, since everything else is the same in logs on LIVE
[22:53] <tomreyn> for the HDD, right?
[22:53] <tomreyn> not the USB flash.
[22:53] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Yes
[22:54] <Bambus> .
[22:54] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Yeah, data recovery and hard drive stuff is part and parcel for me, over here. I fix a lot of older computers
[22:55] <CodeMouse92> This is definitely NOT the HDD :(
[22:55] <tomreyn> i see. well, good luck on this.
[22:55] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: In terms of the passwords, here's a weird tidbit....
[22:56] <CodeMouse92> The deterioration time...how long until the password stops working at random...is longer the shorter the password is.
[22:56] <CodeMouse92> So, a 35 character password "dies" in about 10 minutes.
[22:56] <CodeMouse92> A 25 in about 30 minutes
[22:56] <CodeMouse92> And a 15 in about 2 hours
[22:57] <CodeMouse92> Roughly guesstimating here
[22:57] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: let's move to a different channel for hardware chatting, such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:57] <CodeMouse92> Well...it's not really a hardware chat, BUT, yeah, sure
[23:01] <dont-panic> anyone in here familiar with sox?
[23:03] <lotuspsychje> dont-panic: its best to ask your full issue about it to the channel with all details
[23:05] <dont-panic> lotuspsychje: Probably, but if someone's not familiar with sox, they're likely not going to have incountered this issue...
[23:06] <dont-panic> I'm trying to split vinyl recordings with sox and it's a pain for albums like Elictric Light Orchestra - Time, due to the fading from one to the next factor.  Trying to find a way to do it anyways
[23:09] <lotuspsychje> dont-panic: maybe the ubuntu studio channel might be a good place to hang also for music related
[23:09] <dont-panic> lotuspsychje: I have a feeling that what i've got is close enough for most ablums and I'll have to do albums like dark side of the moon etc by hand
[23:36] <icemaiden> I have ubuntu 16.04 unity, and 3 displays ..is it possible to mirror 2 of the 3 dispays only?
[23:36] <icemaiden> if so, how please?
[23:47] <tomreyn> icemaiden: i don't know how or whether you can do this with the drivers and graphics hardware you may or may not have. but maybe give it another try on 18.04, too.
[23:50] <mia> Hey channel
[23:50] <mia> how can I exit the gui session completely go to a terminal from ubuntu
[23:51] <mia> I would like to test the limits of my single poor gpu and I think having no GUI could help
[23:51] <mia> (would it?)
[23:54] <xamithan> "systemctl set-default multi-user.target" and a reboot should do it
[23:54] <xamithan> set it again to graphical.target when you want gui back
[23:55] <mia> oh thanks
[23:55] <xamithan> Or if you want to just test it once,  systemctl isolate multi-user.target