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lubot<HMollerCl> Haven't seen it jet00:00
lubot<tsimonq2> Watching00:01
wxlthis guy omg00:01
wxl"distrotube"00:01
wxli'm already facepalming00:01
tsimonq2ik XD00:01
tsimonq2He's one of the more rational and nice Linux YouTubers, I'd say.00:02
kc2bezIt wasn't bad, I watched.00:02
tsimonq2Lubuntu starts at 23:0000:02
wxljeez thanks00:03
wxl"elle ecks cute"00:03
wxlsddm not well themed.. "hideous"00:03
tsimonq2I saw00:04
tsimonq2And yeah, I say "ell ecks cue tee" and "ell ecks cute".00:04
kc2bezNot sure what was up with discover but he had the same issue in Kubuntu.00:04
wxl"it is the future"00:04
wxlhe agrees with firefox00:05
wxlbut complains about not having thunderbird (i still disagree)00:05
tsimonq2I personally use Thunderbird...00:06
wxli use it at work and that's it00:06
kc2bezI use both00:06
kc2bezTrojita and thunderbird00:06
tsimonq2Ends at 26:5000:06
wxli use mutt at home00:06
tsimonq2Nice review,00:06
tsimonq2wxl: Hipster XD00:07
wxlmore like old fart00:07
wxlit's fast00:07
tsimonq2XD00:07
kc2bezDown with html mail.00:07
wxlyup00:08
kc2bezDistrotube likes gopher too so maybe you guys have something in common. XD00:09
* kc2bez runs00:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGd7e92e2acc66: Welcome to the Eoan EANIMAL!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGd7e92e2acc6600:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGf48c941bfd94: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGf48c941bfd9400:09
wxlhey, man, i USED gopher00:10
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (eoan-proposed/universe) [19.04.1 => 19.10.1] (lubuntu)00:11
kc2bezAs the other old fart in the room, me too.00:11
wxllike not as one of these "retro" things00:11
kc2bezJust not any more.00:11
wxlhow many moons are you?00:11
kc2bez41 trips around the sun.00:12
wxlah, yes, we have near parity00:13
wxlOMG AGAIDA CONfIRMED MY BUG00:13
tsimonq2OMG WHAT00:13
tsimonq2WHAT IS THIS00:13
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (eoan-proposed/universe) [1:19.04.4 => 1:19.10.1] (lubuntu)00:13
kc2bezIs it turning cold outside?!00:13
wxlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EQnJsTEHw00:13
tsimonq2wxl: WHERE IS AGAIDA AND WHAT DID THEY DO WITH HIM00:13
tsimonq2XD00:14
wxlhe found some new behavior i didn't find either00:14
tsimonq2"I did it more than 10 times but couldn't reproduce it. I don't have Debian or Ubuntu but the distro shouldn't be important if there's a bug."00:14
tsimonq2XD00:14
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f800:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f800:15
wxl"Would you please paste the name of that none-existent file (or attach a screenshot)?"00:15
wxlum, i actually did both, dummy00:15
wxlMULTIPLE TIMES00:15
tsimonq2XD XD XD00:15
kc2bezMany pastes!00:16
tsimonq2Upgrades to 19.04 enabled.00:16
kc2bezHe couldn't see it on the little screen.00:16
kc2bezXD00:16
tsimonq2People should soon start upgrading, if they didn't already. It Begins.00:17
tsimonq2kc2bez: XD00:17
tsimonq2wxl: How small was his screen again?00:17
tsimonq24x2?00:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING11ee8c548cb8: Revert "Cherry-pick several beneficial upstream patches."] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING11ee8c548cb800:18
tsimonq2Now Calamares builds should pass again in the CI.00:18
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGa587ee263445: Add a new changelog entry.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGa587ee26344500:19
kc2bezHey, did an release update on my work machine cosmic --> disco That was enough for a no-change-friday :)00:19
tsimonq2nice :D00:19
tsimonq2I'm already on Eoan, suckaaas XD00:19
tsimonq2wxl: So for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1600:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Configure OEM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1600:20
tsimonq2Would another desktop icon be fine, do you think?00:20
kc2bezThis weeekend's project on my desktop here.00:20
tsimonq2\o/00:20
wxlhm seems cluttered00:21
tsimonq2Right, I was wondering how we wanted to do that.00:21
tsimonq2I have the technical part down. Just the UI of things...00:21
wxl"Yes, I saw them after reloading the page."00:21
wxldude, they were at the top00:21
tsimonq2hahahaha00:21
tsimonq2wxl: Hacky, but really plausible idea.00:23
tsimonq2So you remember how we can set boot flags based on GRUB entries, right?00:23
tsimonq2And that Ubiquity uses that to decide what to do, right?00:23
tsimonq2We can like, do that.00:24
wxlthat might work00:24
tsimonq2Have a super simple systemd unit which runs a script to check for that boot flag.00:24
tsimonq2Meaning, OEM mode boot.00:24
tsimonq2If it's there, we can just cp the desktop entry over the existing one.00:24
tsimonq2It'll just be named different and do different things.00:24
* tsimonq2 digs in the Ubiquity codebase...00:25
wxlseems reasonable00:25
tsimonq2wxl: I thought about it because I was reminded of this: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/revision/199500:25
tsimonq2So, I can also dig in that code.00:25
wxlOMG TSUJAN CONFIRMED MY BUG00:25
tsimonq2OMG WHAT00:25
wxlew maybe-ubiquity00:26
* wxl pukes in his mouth00:26
tsimonq2No, not even that.00:26
tsimonq2Although, agreed. :P00:26
wxli know00:27
wxlbut i saw it00:27
* kc2bez looks in a mirror darkly00:27
wxlit's like when you accidentially search for medical oddities and you can't unsee it00:27
kc2bezI keep reading the words...00:28
tsimonq2wxl: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/view/head:/tools/boot/disco/boot-amd64#L570 "only-ubiquity" eew00:29
tsimonq2But that's our line to look for.00:29
tsimonq2wxl: OUUU I found it.00:32
tsimonq2cat /proc/cmdline00:32
tsimonq2That'll give us command-line arguments.00:32
tsimonq2Check this out: https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/scripts/start-ubiquity-dm#n1400:32
wxl"For me, there is a serious problem here"00:34
wxlbut tsujan, what about this feature that actually has a huge affect on users?00:34
wxl"to hell with that noise"00:34
wxloh well, maybe i should count my blessings that he's being helpful :)00:35
kc2bezGotta make hay when the sun shines.00:35
tsimonq2wxl: "Duck and crawling away ..." XD00:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T16: Configure OEM] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16#102501:00
tsimonq2wxl, kc2bez: Can one (or both) of you read over what I just wrote on that task? ^01:00
tsimonq2I want to make sure it's understandable.01:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T16: Configure OEM] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16#102701:08
tsimonq2cool01:11
kc2bezSorry, I am back. tsimonq2 on second stage of install were you thinking autologin and autostart remainder of install?01:46
tsimonq2I was thinking autologin to the desktop and have an icon, just like before, which users have to manually start.01:47
kc2bezOk01:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [https://youtu.be/PWp51BAzn-8], I saw half of the video. Noice …  Gonna add it to watch later. One of the best distro reviewers I have ever seen.06:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Heya! Peps! Why so silent? Everybody asleep or what?16:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Can anyone tell me what are the key differences between kernels 4.15.xxx and 5.xx.xxx ??16:05
tsimonq2Yeah, sleep I guess :)16:14
tsimonq2@The_LoudSpeaker: Check out Kees Cook's blog, he always does a nice overview.16:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker: Check out Kees Cook's blog, he always does a nice o …], Will do. Thanks!16:16
lubotIpinkang was added by: Ipinkang16:35
lubot<tsimonq2> oof17:43
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Onto the third time now.17:43
lubot<EgenhoferJ> This is a hardware failure I fear :(17:43
lubot<aptghetto> If you are looking for more information, use the QR code in the picture17:46
lubot<EgenhoferJ> Lol17:55
lubot<EgenhoferJ> That did literally nothing. Just stated that a process was unable to start and to restore a previous backup.17:56
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: golang-google-grpc (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.6.0-3 => 1.6.0-3ubuntu0.18.10.1] (lubuntu, ubuntu-mate)20:23

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