[00:00] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Haven't seen it jet
[00:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Watching
[00:01] <wxl> this guy omg
[00:01] <wxl> "distrotube"
[00:01] <wxl> i'm already facepalming
[00:01] <tsimonq2> ik XD
[00:02] <tsimonq2> He's one of the more rational and nice Linux YouTubers, I'd say.
[00:02] <kc2bez> It wasn't bad, I watched.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu starts at 23:00
[00:03] <wxl> jeez thanks
[00:03] <wxl> "elle ecks cute"
[00:03] <wxl> sddm not well themed.. "hideous"
[00:04] <tsimonq2> I saw
[00:04] <tsimonq2> And yeah, I say "ell ecks cue tee" and "ell ecks cute".
[00:04] <kc2bez> Not sure what was up with discover but he had the same issue in Kubuntu.
[00:04] <wxl> "it is the future"
[00:05] <wxl> he agrees with firefox
[00:05] <wxl> but complains about not having thunderbird (i still disagree)
[00:06] <tsimonq2> I personally use Thunderbird...
[00:06] <wxl> i use it at work and that's it
[00:06] <kc2bez> I use both
[00:06] <kc2bez> Trojita and thunderbird
[00:06] <tsimonq2> Ends at 26:50
[00:06] <wxl> i use mutt at home
[00:06] <tsimonq2> Nice review,
[00:07] <tsimonq2> wxl: Hipster XD
[00:07] <wxl> more like old fart
[00:07] <wxl> it's fast
[00:07] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:07] <kc2bez> Down with html mail.
[00:08] <wxl> yup
[00:09] <kc2bez> Distrotube likes gopher too so maybe you guys have something in common. XD
[00:09]  * kc2bez runs
[00:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGd7e92e2acc66: Welcome to the Eoan EANIMAL!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGd7e92e2acc66
[00:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGf48c941bfd94: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGf48c941bfd94
[00:10] <wxl> hey, man, i USED gopher
[00:11] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (eoan-proposed/universe) [19.04.1 => 19.10.1] (lubuntu)
[00:11] <kc2bez> As the other old fart in the room, me too.
[00:11] <wxl> like not as one of these "retro" things
[00:11] <kc2bez> Just not any more.
[00:11] <wxl> how many moons are you?
[00:12] <kc2bez> 41 trips around the sun.
[00:13] <wxl> ah, yes, we have near parity
[00:13] <wxl> OMG AGAIDA CONfIRMED MY BUG
[00:13] <tsimonq2> OMG WHAT
[00:13] <tsimonq2> WHAT IS THIS
[00:13] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (eoan-proposed/universe) [1:19.04.4 => 1:19.10.1] (lubuntu)
[00:13] <kc2bez> Is it turning cold outside?!
[00:13] <wxl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EQnJsTEHw
[00:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: WHERE IS AGAIDA AND WHAT DID THEY DO WITH HIM
[00:14] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:14] <wxl> he found some new behavior i didn't find either
[00:14] <tsimonq2> "I did it more than 10 times but couldn't reproduce it. I don't have Debian or Ubuntu but the distro shouldn't be important if there's a bug."
[00:14] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8
[00:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8: Upload to Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS6cf62c82d0f8
[00:15] <wxl> "Would you please paste the name of that none-existent file (or attach a screenshot)?"
[00:15] <wxl> um, i actually did both, dummy
[00:15] <wxl> MULTIPLE TIMES
[00:15] <tsimonq2> XD XD XD
[00:16] <kc2bez> Many pastes!
[00:16] <tsimonq2> Upgrades to 19.04 enabled.
[00:16] <kc2bez> He couldn't see it on the little screen.
[00:16] <kc2bez> XD
[00:17] <tsimonq2> People should soon start upgrading, if they didn't already. It Begins.
[00:17] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: XD
[00:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: How small was his screen again?
[00:17] <tsimonq2> 4x2?
[00:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING11ee8c548cb8: Revert "Cherry-pick several beneficial upstream patches."] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING11ee8c548cb8
[00:18] <tsimonq2> Now Calamares builds should pass again in the CI.
[00:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGa587ee263445: Add a new changelog entry.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGa587ee263445
[00:19] <kc2bez> Hey, did an release update on my work machine cosmic --> disco That was enough for a no-change-friday :)
[00:19] <tsimonq2> nice :D
[00:19] <tsimonq2> I'm already on Eoan, suckaaas XD
[00:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: So for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16
[00:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Configure OEM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Would another desktop icon be fine, do you think?
[00:20] <kc2bez> This weeekend's project on my desktop here.
[00:20] <tsimonq2> \o/
[00:21] <wxl> hm seems cluttered
[00:21] <tsimonq2> Right, I was wondering how we wanted to do that.
[00:21] <tsimonq2> I have the technical part down. Just the UI of things...
[00:21] <wxl> "Yes, I saw them after reloading the page."
[00:21] <wxl> dude, they were at the top
[00:21] <tsimonq2> hahahaha
[00:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: Hacky, but really plausible idea.
[00:23] <tsimonq2> So you remember how we can set boot flags based on GRUB entries, right?
[00:23] <tsimonq2> And that Ubiquity uses that to decide what to do, right?
[00:24] <tsimonq2> We can like, do that.
[00:24] <wxl> that might work
[00:24] <tsimonq2> Have a super simple systemd unit which runs a script to check for that boot flag.
[00:24] <tsimonq2> Meaning, OEM mode boot.
[00:24] <tsimonq2> If it's there, we can just cp the desktop entry over the existing one.
[00:24] <tsimonq2> It'll just be named different and do different things.
[00:25]  * tsimonq2 digs in the Ubiquity codebase...
[00:25] <wxl> seems reasonable
[00:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: I thought about it because I was reminded of this: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/revision/1995
[00:25] <tsimonq2> So, I can also dig in that code.
[00:25] <wxl> OMG TSUJAN CONFIRMED MY BUG
[00:25] <tsimonq2> OMG WHAT
[00:26] <wxl> ew maybe-ubiquity
[00:26]  * wxl pukes in his mouth
[00:26] <tsimonq2> No, not even that.
[00:26] <tsimonq2> Although, agreed. :P
[00:27] <wxl> i know
[00:27] <wxl> but i saw it
[00:27]  * kc2bez looks in a mirror darkly
[00:27] <wxl> it's like when you accidentially search for medical oddities and you can't unsee it
[00:28] <kc2bez> I keep reading the words...
[00:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/view/head:/tools/boot/disco/boot-amd64#L570 "only-ubiquity" eew
[00:29] <tsimonq2> But that's our line to look for.
[00:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: OUUU I found it.
[00:32] <tsimonq2> cat /proc/cmdline
[00:32] <tsimonq2> That'll give us command-line arguments.
[00:32] <tsimonq2> Check this out: https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/scripts/start-ubiquity-dm#n14
[00:34] <wxl> "For me, there is a serious problem here"
[00:34] <wxl> but tsujan, what about this feature that actually has a huge affect on users?
[00:34] <wxl> "to hell with that noise"
[00:35] <wxl> oh well, maybe i should count my blessings that he's being helpful :)
[00:35] <kc2bez> Gotta make hay when the sun shines.
[00:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: "Duck and crawling away ..." XD
[01:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T16: Configure OEM] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16#1025
[01:00] <tsimonq2> wxl, kc2bez: Can one (or both) of you read over what I just wrote on that task? ^
[01:01] <tsimonq2> I want to make sure it's understandable.
[01:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T16: Configure OEM] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16#1027
[01:11] <tsimonq2> cool
[01:46] <kc2bez> Sorry, I am back. tsimonq2 on second stage of install were you thinking autologin and autostart remainder of install?
[01:47] <tsimonq2> I was thinking autologin to the desktop and have an icon, just like before, which users have to manually start.
[01:47] <kc2bez> Ok
[06:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [https://youtu.be/PWp51BAzn-8], I saw half of the video. Noice …  Gonna add it to watch later. One of the best distro reviewers I have ever seen.
[16:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Heya! Peps! Why so silent? Everybody asleep or what?
[16:05] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Can anyone tell me what are the key differences between kernels 4.15.xxx and 5.xx.xxx ??
[16:14] <tsimonq2> Yeah, sleep I guess :)
[16:15] <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker: Check out Kees Cook's blog, he always does a nice overview.
[16:16] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker: Check out Kees Cook's blog, he always does a nice o …], Will do. Thanks!
[16:35] <lubot> Ipinkang was added by: Ipinkang
[17:43] <lubot> <tsimonq2> oof
[17:43] <lubot> <EgenhoferJ> Onto the third time now.
[17:43] <lubot> <EgenhoferJ> This is a hardware failure I fear :(
[17:46] <lubot> <aptghetto> If you are looking for more information, use the QR code in the picture
[17:55] <lubot> <EgenhoferJ> Lol
[17:56] <lubot> <EgenhoferJ> That did literally nothing. Just stated that a process was unable to start and to restore a previous backup.
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