[00:15] <waltman> I upgraded from 18.10 to 19.04 today. Smoothest one yet. No problems at all!
[00:15] <waltman> (so far...)
[00:17] <tomreyn> waltman: oh, oh, just don't reboot now! (just kidding)
[00:18] <tomreyn> waltman: have a look at this, just to check your status:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
[00:19] <tomreyn> "unsupported" there are also those with community support.
[00:19] <tomreyn> so it's quite strict. but you'll want to get rid of the "no longer downloadable" ones, or at least be aware of them.
[00:22] <waltman> tomreyn: that's a lot of packages!
[00:22] <waltman> What does "unsupported" mean here?
[00:23] <xamithan> You didn't order the thing: https://buy.ubuntu.com/
[00:23] <waltman> ah
[00:24] <waltman> I don't care about anything that's not downloadable
[00:36] <waltman> Actually I just found a problem. The NetSpeed applet isn't loading.
[00:37] <tomreyn> waltman: unsupported means neither from the ubuntu main nor restricted sections
[00:37] <tomreyn> waltman: it's unrelated to whether or not you have a support contract
[00:38] <tomreyn> it's software that doesn't *neccessarily* get timely security patches
[00:38] <tomreyn> (or not by the ubuntu security tema)
[00:39] <qwebirc80171> oh myy
[00:39] <qwebirc80171> tomreyn: You're still here
[00:39] <tomreyn> qwebirc80171: so?
[00:39] <tomreyn> i see :)
[00:39] <Catzzye> hehe
[00:40] <Catzzye> well, soo just to update you
[00:40] <Catzzye> I still have no idea what's going on hahahaha
[00:40] <Catzzye> after all was said and done, I thought I got the wrong M.2 and it died
[00:40] <Catzzye> but nope, I just booted Windows 10 flash drive to install it and I can see the drive, and it's populated with files
[00:41] <Catzzye> now I am confused as to how the Ubuntu didn't pick it up, probably Windows had some bullshit on that prevented it from detecting
[00:42] <waltman> Ah, NetSpeed doesn't work in gnome 3.32: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/104/netspeed/
[00:42] <tomreyn> bitlocker would prevent ubuntu from seeing the files
[00:43] <tomreyn> Catzzye: so you upgraded the ssd and mainboard firmware?
[00:44] <seanh> Er.. Anyone else upgraded to 19.04 and still have Gnome 3.30 not 3.32?
[00:45] <tomreyn> usually not.
[00:46] <tomreyn> but if you have too many 3rd party packages which mess up your package dependencies... such might happen
[00:46] <Catzzye> nope, I still can't boot into actual Windows10 located on my SSD, I saw this when I started to install Windows10 from my flash drive tomreyn
[00:46] <Catzzye> soo yeah, I have no idea what should I do now
[00:47] <Catzzye> thought it was broken for sure, but now I am just out of ideas and not sure where to ask anymore haha
[00:47] <seanh> I don't have any 3rd party packages
[00:47] <tomreyn> Catzzye: smae as before, i'd say: upgrade firmwares, enjoy ubuntu
[00:48] <tomreyn> seanh: and ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported    shows nothing that could have gotten in the way?
[00:49] <tomreyn> seanh: and    lsb_release -sd   says you'Re on 19.04 ?
[00:49] <tomreyn> and apt agrees?
[00:52] <Catzzye> tomreyn: you mean firmware of the motherboard? with the one tool you said?  that tool is Windows only though :/
[00:53] <tomreyn> Catzzye: from what i understand you saying during the past couple minutes, your existing windows installation boots fine. if thats so, you can use it to upgrade the nvme firmware using the software i pointed you to. and you can also upgrade the mainboard firmware using the other software i pointed you to.
[00:54] <tomreyn> and this may solve any issues you had.
[00:55] <Catzzye> wait I can install that from the Windows installation??
[00:55] <tomreyn> you both can and have to
[00:55] <Catzzye> that's crazy?? I didn't know that was a thing
[00:55] <tomreyn> as in you can't it in a different way, at least none supported
[00:55] <Catzzye> I install .exe files, using the flash drive installation of Windows
[00:57] <Catzzye> I am a bit confused haha sorry if I am bothering you tomreyn
[00:57] <tomreyn> flahs drive installation? like a windows installer? then it wont work. has to be a 'proper' windows installation.
[00:57] <Guest39436> Regarding release 19.04, does the new fractional scaling option support scaling independently on differnt displays?
[00:57] <Guest39436> like 125% on one display and 150% on another?
[00:57] <tomreyn> Catzzye: not bothering, just we'Re out of scope for this channel
[00:58] <Catzzye> yeah, totally,  I should probably move to #Windows
[00:58] <mike802> i saw a video once where the templeos guy spins up distros on the fly
[00:58] <mike802> lol
[00:58] <tomreyn> Catzzye: double ##
[01:12] <evdubs> any thinkorswim users here having issues running thinkorswim in ubuntu 19.04?
[01:15] <Guest39436> Regarding release 19.04, does the new fractional scaling option support scaling independently on differnt displays?
[01:15] <Guest39436> like 125% on one display and 150% on another?
[01:41] <bieb_> I need to set a cron job to reboot every 4 hours.. this is to get me through the weekend, until I can work on this server Monday.  I ran crontab -e as a sudo user, entered the line 0 */4 * * * shutdown -r now, but it doesnt seem to be rebooting. Is there something I am missing in my cron?
[01:42] <jcotton> do you maybe have to start cron with systemctl?
[01:45] <bieb_> cron status is running
[01:47] <scaba> dying light crashes ubuntu after i launch it it goes back to the log in screen
[01:48] <scaba> but it works in openbox i guess thats ok
[01:54] <Bashing-om> bieb_: The systemd way is ' systemctl reboot ' .
[01:56] <dtx> I'm on 18.04 right now, should i get on 19.04 or stick to LTS?
[01:57] <bieb_> Bashing-om: its ubuntu 14.04.. I am in the process of building a new server... so it's not systemd yet..
[01:58] <Bashing-om> bieb_: K .. then perhaps give to cron the full path to shutdown ?
[02:00] <bieb_> is it "/sbin/shutdown"
[02:01] <bieb_> is sudo required in the cron command? or is sudo assumed since crontab was run as sudoed user?
[02:10] <mie> hello
[02:10] <mie>  Hello all, I'm trying to duelboot a Asus Chromebook C213SA. I am having trouble disabling write protetction on this model. Any help
[02:11] <bieb_> Bashing-om: is sudo required in the cron command? or is sudo assumed since crontab was run as sudoed user?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> bieb_: Hummm ,,, 'cron -e' starts under sudo - no ? such that then sudo is not required . Others can better advise.
[02:13] <bieb_> Bashing-om: thanks!
[02:18] <kadiro> mie, may be this will help you: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/30/tutorial-install-ubuntu-on-a-chromebook
[02:19] <angelcom> how can i install apache to ubuntu?
[02:19] <angelcom> help me plz
[02:19] <mie> kadiro, thanks m8, checking it out
[02:19] <kadiro> No problem
[02:21] <kadiro> angelcom, you can install apache server by doing this: sudo apt install apache2
[02:21] <angelcom> kadiro, thanks but there is no apache3?
[02:22] <kadiro> angelcom, let me check
[02:22] <angelcom> thanks :)
[02:23] <kadiro> angelcom, I don't see it from the packages may be try from ppa
[02:23] <angelcom> thanks :)
[02:23] <kadiro> welcome
[02:24] <angelcom> kadiro, how can i start apache, i installed apache
[02:24] <kadiro> angelcom, no idea, i never used it
[02:25] <kadiro> angelcom, I found this for you https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-apache-web-server-on-ubuntu-18-04-quickstart
[02:26] <angelcom> kadiro, thanks
[02:38] <kinghat> virtualbox-6.0/now 6.0.4-128413~Ubuntu~bionic amd64 [installed,local] does "local" mean its installed via deb and not a repo?
[02:40] <krytarik> Indeed.
[02:55] <kinghat> if i added the VB repo, would it start pulling updates from that? or how does that work when its been installed locally previously?
[03:02] <krytarik> Yes, that would work.
[03:13] <azuur> can't delete the files from my USB that I used as a startup disk
[03:14] <kadiro> azuur, which file
[03:15] <azuur> well I want to use it to boot Manjaro
[03:16] <azuur> but it still has another OS on it that isn't delete able
[03:16] <kadiro> azuur, format it if there is only one os on the full area
[03:18] <qwebirc86724> hi everyone.  I just installed 19.04 and it looks great.  I'm having issues with my WiFi driver for my card, an intel 9560.  They provide drivers here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html
[03:18] <qwebirc86724> The card worked on 18.10 fine, but doesn't seem to be working on 19.04, presumably since it's Linux Kernel 5.  According to the linked Intel page "We support use of the drivers only in the kernel version the driver was a part of."
[03:19] <qwebirc86724> Any idea how to use a driver for Linux Kernel 4 with Linux Kernel 5?
[03:20] <kadiro> qwebirc86724, I think it will not work like that, may be your only option is to compile it from source
[03:21] <qwebirc86724> That's a good point.  I've been meaning to test out all the cores on this new machine :P
[03:21] <kadiro> lol
[03:21] <qc170422> Why i can't install steam in 19.04? I'm sure that there is an option 'multiverse' in sources.list.
[03:23] <scaba> i have steam installed in 19.04
[03:23] <scaba> just sudo apt install steam
[03:23] <scaba> only problem is my game crashes with the ubuntu desktop environment
[03:23] <kadiro> qc170422, define the word 'I can't'
[03:24] <UserUS> scaba, what kind of graphics card?
[03:24] <qc170422> Reading package lists... Done
[03:24] <qc170422> Building dependency tree
[03:24] <qc170422> Reading state information... Done
[03:24] <qc170422> Package steam is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:24] <scaba> nvidia 1050 ti
[03:24] <qc170422> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:24] <qc170422> is only available from another source
[03:24] <kadiro> use pastebinit qc170422
[03:24] <leonardus> Please use a paste site to avoid flooding.
[03:25] <scaba> do sudo apt update qc170422
[03:26] <qc170422> scaba, i did it.
[03:26] <scaba> now try sudo apt install steam
[03:27] <qc170422> scaba, E: Package 'steam' has no installation candidate
[03:27] <scaba> hmm weird idk then
[03:28] <kadiro> No it is not weird he must add some sources
[03:31] <scaba> qc170422, did you change your sources or add ppa or anything?
[03:32] <kadiro> qc170422, I was wrong, scaba was right, there is also this link if no solution yet http://www.theubuntumaniac.com/2018/11/how-to-install-latest-steam-on-ubuntu.html
[03:33] <scaba> you werent wrong he could have changed his sources or something
[03:33] <qc170422> yes, i changed mirror site which i use it in 18.04 and it works nicely.
[03:36] <nonecant> hi
[03:44] <qc170422> kadiro, resolved with sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[03:44] <qc170422> thank you guys
[03:45] <kadiro> No problem qc170422
[03:46] <UserUS> opinions on Ubuntu 19?
[03:47] <runawaysheld123> Hello
[03:50] <kinghat> if i have a spare ssd in my system and i format it with a new system and encrypt it with luks can it be decrypted on login?
[03:50] <kinghat> or how does that all work?
[04:03] <Guest39436> Regarding release 19.04, does the new fractional scaling option support scaling independently on differnt displays?
[04:03] <Guest39436> like 125% on one display and 150% on another?
[04:58] <angelcom> hello how can i move folder including subfolder?
[04:58] <angelcom> using terminal?
[05:01] <angelcom> no one is here?
[05:01] <angelcom> :(
[05:02] <Kon-> angelcom: mv folderName targetPath
[05:02] <Bashing-om> angelcom: Move is mv -- to move all and subfolders is ' mv -R <parent_directory> ' . Might want to consider cp (copy) instead for safty sake.
[05:02] <angelcom> there is a subfolder too Kon-
[05:03] <Kon-> I just tested this and the standard "mv" moved all subfolders and files for me
[05:04] <Kon-> but yeah for safety, -R works
[05:04] <angelcom> ah yeah thanks Kon- and Bashing-om
[05:04] <angelcom> :)
[05:04] <dax> (there is no -R argument to GNU coreutils' mv command, and if supplied it is ignored)
[05:06] <Bashing-om> dax: angelcom ^6 I stand corrected and ' man mv ' confirms :)
[05:14] <angelcom> anyway how can i install php on ubuntu?
[05:16] <angelcom> no one is here?
[05:16] <xamithan> apt install php ?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> !info php7,2 | angelcom
[05:16] <Bashing-om> !info php7.2 | angelcom
[05:17] <thelounge40> https://hostadvice.com/how-to/how-to-install-apache-mysql-php-on-an-ubuntu-18-04-vps/
[05:20] <ryahi_skaprinav> angelcom: If you like working with xampp - http://devopspy.com/linux/install-xampp-ubuntu-16-04-using-terminal/
[05:20] <cim209> PHP is now at 7.3.4
[05:34] <angelcom> hello
[05:34] <angelcom> i can't terminate tmux because it is for loop
[05:34] <angelcom> how can i terminate it :(
[05:36] <angelcom> ubuntu people don't help beginner?
[05:36] <angelcom> :(
[05:39] <angelcom> hello how can i install ssh on ubuntu help me plz
[05:39] <angelcom> :(
[05:39] <angelcom> i want to die now :(
[05:43] <angelcom> :(
[05:43] <angelcom> no one help me
[05:43] <angelcom> lol
[05:47] <Flannel> angelcom: you want to install ssh server or client?
[05:48] <angelcom> server Flannel
[05:48] <angelcom> :)
[05:50] <Flannel> angelcom: the package is openssh-server, but you may want to do some configuration stuff following your install.  A guide can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html.en
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> dont-panic: ask your sox issue to Eickmeyer maybe he knows
[06:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> lotulotuspsychje, dont-panic: Sorry, I am not familiar with sox.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Eickmeyer[m]: ok tnx anyway, thought music, might know :p
[06:15] <Haris> hello all
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome Haris
[06:15] <Haris> I'm having trouble with mod_ruid2 mod for apache on 14.04
[06:15] <Haris> the user group I set in vhost configs, apache is not writing new files with its ownership
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Haris: 14.04 will be eond of life soon, i think we already said this to you before no?
[06:16] <Haris> yes, agreed
[06:16] <Haris> I have to run existing boxes till the upgrade
[06:17] <Haris> is this issue resolved in 16.x, 18.x?
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Haris: are you on ubuntu-server?
[06:17] <Haris> VERSION="14.04.5 LTS, Trusty Tahr"
[06:17] <Haris> can't say
[06:17] <Haris> this is an amazon aws instance
[06:17] <Haris> should be server
[06:18] <Haris> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Haris: ask again in #ubuntu-server please, volunteers might know there
[06:18] <Haris> ok
[07:03] <gridwest> Does anyone know how to set and use local repositories. I get release not found error when I change path in list file
[07:11] <bodinux> Hi, 19.04 crashes on me right after clean install : jambled screen (full of multicolor dots, nothing recognizable), mouse moves, upon password entry (although nothing is to be seen), screens move a little then freeze. How can I contribute ?
[07:18] <io__> Hi everyone
[07:18] <deadmarshal> how can i install open jdk 8 on ubuntu 19.04? i use "sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk" but it won't work.
[07:19] <io__> I'm trying to install some snaps and I jus got error: "too early for operation, device not yet seeded or device model not acknowledged"
[07:20] <io__> ubuntu 19.04 btw
[07:21] <dotsun7> .
[07:35] <reith_> hi, i got OOM while starting up ubuntu in qemu when memory hotplug is active
[07:35] <reith_> it does not happen if i start with initial RAM of 128MiB in 4GiB vm but happens for 4GiB vm
[07:36] <reith_> sorry, happens for 8GiB vm
[07:40] <isabdisab> Hi guys, Im using xubuntu and I need to schedule a task to run every 10 seconds, that wont be affected by reboots, the computer doesn't have any network access so I can't download any external package
[07:44] <evdubs> isabdisab, cron?
[07:47] <OerHeks> !cron
[07:47] <jmichel> cron is per minute
[07:47] <evdubs> can have cron call a script that has a few "sleep 10" lines
[07:48] <jmichel> cron is a great way, but not possible for per 10 seconds
[07:48] <OerHeks> indeed
[07:49] <OerHeks>  to resolve your issue you need 60 seconds / 10 seconds = 6 cron jobs, each with a sleep. >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30295868/how-to-setup-cron-job-to-run-every-10-seconds-in-linux
[07:50] <jmichel> @evdubs: If you want to write a script with "sleep 10", better way is to start it with systemd instead of cron.
[07:51] <evdubs> better, maybe, but cron and sleep are dead simple
[07:51] <jmichel> indeed
[07:54] <a_p3rson|D> Trying out 19.04, and I'm having issues with getting an encrypted root and boot partition setup. Even though I have cryptopts set in /etc/default/grub, it appears that grub-mkconfig isn't outputting the necessary lines to /boot/grub/grub.cfg. This config works fine on an (older?) Debian-based distro, and is based on https://www.pavelkogan.com/2015/01/25/linux-mint-encryption/. Any ideas?
[07:54] <a_p3rson|D> Should be noted that the device is UEFI-enabled, so EFI boot is needed here.
[07:55] <a_p3rson|D> (if anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful - been pulling my hair out for a few hours now)
[07:56] <sorin-mihai> a_p3rson|D, by cryptopts you mean GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y ?
[07:57] <EoN> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 WSL and when i run 'sudo apt-get install keychain' it says 'Package keychain is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package 'keychain' has no installation candidate'.  is there a way i can install it?
[07:58] <a_p3rson|D> I have the following relevant contents in /etc/default/grub:
[07:58] <a_p3rson|D> GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
[07:58] <a_p3rson|D> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptopts=target=lvm,source=/dev/disk/by-uuid/<blkid of LUKS partition>,luks,key=/crypto_keyfile.bin,keyscript=/bin/cat"
[07:58] <OerHeks> EoN, we do not support WSL her, but i think you need to run update first
[07:58] <OerHeks> !info keychain
[07:58] <OerHeks> and enable universe
[07:59] <OerHeks> sudo add-apt-repository universe
[07:59] <EoN> OerHeks: do you know if there's a channel for WSL suppport?
[07:59] <OerHeks> !wsl
[07:59] <EoN> thank you
[07:59] <a_p3rson|D> sorin-mihai: even if I change that value to N or something else, I don't get the error that I'm trying to use cryptodisks without that setting, though.
[08:00] <EoN> hmm, ubuntu-on-windows is a surprisingly small and terrible channel it seems.
[08:00] <OerHeks> ( i think it is silent now, more luck during officehours UK )
[08:00] <a_p3rson|D> My issue manifests when I attempt to boot grub, I'm getting a quick flash of a grub: no such device <uuid> error, then get dropped to a grub shell.
[08:09] <a_p3rson|D> I'm not sure if it's helpful, but it's not even loading the grub menu, nor asking for my LUKS password - I'm also noticing that my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is missing all the relevant crypto modules, and isn't attempting to open the crypto disk prior to searching for the root partition. Is there something I could be missing somewhere?
[08:20] <thagabe> In a btrfs raid0 (yes i know its btrfs, yeas i get that raid0 is dangerous) would you go with compression lzo or zlib?
[08:22] <thagabe> i mean zstd
[08:33] <OerHeks> thagabe, do your own benchmarks, ZLIB is slower, but high compression, ZSTD gives different ratio levels, i would use LZO for speed
[08:34] <OerHeks> the whole story https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Compression
[08:35] <thagabe> Good stuff! Thank
[09:23] <MrElendig> ymmv depending on the actual data you are working with too
[09:23] <OerHeks> MrElendig, true
[09:42] <aasis> hlo
[09:46] <trafaret1> hi there
[09:47] <trafaret1> need help how can I temporary rebind arrow keys to vim like wiht space button to switch in vil-like mode
[10:03] <deanc> I just did mv /path/to/something /path/to/somewhere (note the missing trailing slash)
[10:04] <deanc> it has replaced the whole damn directory with all the contents that was in /path/to/somewhere/ :(
[10:05] <deanc> oh never mind i was in the wrong path
[10:16] <Th3Mafia> How does one successfully install brave on 19.04. I have problems wih the key during every new version of Ubuntu and this time I can't get it to work at all
[10:29] <mia> Hello channel
[10:30] <guiverc> Th3Mafia, you could try the snap (https://snapcraft.io/brave)
[10:32] <qwebirc30574> hey
[10:33] <qwebirc30574> anyone wanna talk with me?
[10:33] <Th3Mafia> guiverc: I will, thanks
[10:33] <qwebirc30574> I don't have any problem just feeling lonely
[10:33] <guiverc> mia, if you have a Ubuntu Suport question, please just ask it (try to keep to a single line & be patient waiting for a response, someone will respond when & if they can)
[10:34] <guiverc> qwebirc30574, this is a Ubuntu Support room, not a chat site.  You could always try #ubuntu-offtopic, but not this room
[10:34] <qwebirc30574> oh nice, I will join there, thanks
[10:35] <qwebirc30574> it says I cannot join this room :(
[10:37] <guiverc> it may require registration  (as I'm registered I tend to forget sorry).  I don't know what other channels exist for chat,  list channels on your client I suppose
[10:38] <sveinse> Has 14.04 been removed yet?
[10:39] <guiverc> sveinse, no, it's supported till end-of-month (30-April-2019), and LTS releases are commonly moved to old-release a little slower than normal releases (but no date after EOL is actually specified so you cannot rely on what I'm saying for move-date)
[10:41] <sveinse> guiverc: ok, great, thanks. Gives me time to do a last sync now.
[10:41] <pabed> hi guys I use ubuntu 18.04  server where this path "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables"?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> pabed: join #ubuntu-server please
[10:44] <sveinse> I'm wondering if the 14.04 docker images also goes away
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: unless one pays ESM, think everything based on 14.04 should end of life
[10:47] <sveinse> jep, that why I'm stocking up own mirrors
[10:47] <sveinse> I have a dependency on 14.04 a few months longer
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: now would be a good diea to plan your upgrade actually :p
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> *idea
[10:51] <sveinse> we have, and we need more time. The biggest problem is that the target chipset is old and does not support the newer kernels required for running systemd
[10:52] <jeremy31> sveinse: What is target chipset?
[10:52] <sveinse> jeremy31: TI omap3
[10:53] <sveinse> long since abandoned by TI
[10:55] <sveinse> (Slightly OT, but it interesting to observe that the SoC vendors offer 10-15+ years of delivery plans, but seldom offer SW support past 3-5 years.)
[10:58] <mia> My grub2 resolution is very low and setting the GRUB_GFXMODE does not seem to help
[10:58] <mia> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep also does not help
[10:59] <mia> I'm on 18.04, I did videoinfo and the available resolutions that are getting listed are very limited, and my nvidia card isn't displayed there
[10:59] <mia> instead I see "efi gop driver"
[10:59] <mia> So, any guidance about this is much appreciated
[11:01] <guiverc> sveinse, FYI: according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-March/000241.html  EOL date is 25-April-2019 not 30-April-2019 as I stated; sorry (why lotuspsychje said what he said, ie. you've less time than I stated..)
[11:03] <sveinse> guiverc: thanks. it seems the apt-mirror operation went well, so I got what I need.
[11:04] <guiverc> :)
[11:07] <Pyro_Killer> I got a problem, on all my local instances, if I create an ssh/sftp connection, and it times out, the client gets a message and closes the collection, but on ALL of my VPS instances, that doesn't happen. The client just stops responding instead of disconnecting. Anyone know how to fix that?
[11:08] <sveinse> In general, all the old expired releases will be moved to archive.ubuntu.com, and they can be apt-ed from there, right?
[11:20] <guiverc> sveinse, archive.ubuntu.com is where i'd expect supported releases (eg. open http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/) but post-EOL they'll get moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com  -- date of move is unspecified; 17.04 was moved next day; if you look you'll note 17.10 still hasn't moved...
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> Pyro_Killer: ubuntu-server?
[11:21] <Pyro_Killer> yupp
[11:21] <Pyro_Killer> 16.04
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Pyro_Killer: you might interest: #ubuntu-server & #openssh
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> likeminded volunteers can help you there Pyro_Killer
[11:22] <stevendale> o/
[11:22] <Pyro_Killer> \o
[11:23] <Pyro_Killer> I'll stick around if anyone has 2 cents anyway :)
[11:27] <Pyro_Killer> The only difference in my mind between server and client, is the options you choose while installing
[11:36] <OkeyDoeKey> hello all-i have a general linux problem concerning firejail and app armor profiles, am on a debian based system,can anyone suggest a general linux help channel on irc please
[11:37] <kadiro> OkeyDoeKey, ##linux
[11:37] <OkeyDoeKey> kadiro, thanks man =)
[11:37] <kadiro> OkeyDoeKey, no problem
[11:43] <binary01> hey, im trying to upgrade redshift from source. from 1.11 to 1.12. I got it installed to /usr/local/bin but when i try launching from comamnd line it gives me an error no such file or directory. it is trying to look in /usr/bin.. does anyone know how i can point it to the correct location?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> binary01: we strongly reccomend to use packages from the official repos
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> !info redshift | binary01
[11:44] <binary01> i cant get 1.12 from official repo
[11:45] <Pyro_Killer> I think I figured it out, answer number 3: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25084288/keep-ssh-session-alive
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> !latest | binary01
[11:46] <ioria> !info redshift disco
[11:46] <Pyro_Killer> binary: Have you tried logging off and on again?
[11:46] <binary01> Pyro_Killer, no, will that update the path? ill try it
[11:46] <Pyro_Killer> it does if you do make a bin folder in your home direcotry
[11:46] <ioria> bash has a cache
[11:48] <Pyro_Killer> if the folder didn't previously exist, it's not gonna look for anything in there
[11:48] <binary01> ioria, how can i get that version from the repo?
[11:48] <ioria> binary01, it's for 19.04 (the new release)
[11:48] <ioria> binary01, try   hash -r
[11:49] <ioria> binary01, probably it's still looking for the previously installed pkg
[11:50] <binary01> ioria, i think that did it
[11:50] <ioria> ok
[11:51] <binary01> thanks
[11:51] <ioria> no problem
[11:52] <binary01> is there a way to check if its using the redshift.conf at which location?
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> binary01: you also know, gnome has now built-in night lights, so redshift isnt really needed anymore
[11:54] <ioria> binary01, you can put it in `~/.config/'
[11:59] <binary01> lotuspsychje, yes but i want to manually set dawn and dusk times. i dont think you can do that with gnome version
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> binary01: sure you can set time manual
[12:09] <safeer> hello
[12:17] <binary01> lotuspsychje, how can i do that?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> binary01: systemsettings/devices/monitor/nightlight/set manual
[12:24] <qrd> hello,i cant install ubuntu.always getting no root file system detected.then after partitioning manually(250mbroot,15gb boot,rest /home)it says formating ext4 file system failed.Whats happening?
[12:26] <qrd> i should say 250mb boot and 15gb root
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | qrd
[12:28] <qrd> i did all that,adding the fact that for some time i hadnt any diffic installing ubuntu at all
[12:31] <isabdisab> I asked here a question earlier
[12:32] <qrd> will have a look at the link
[12:33] <isabdisab> which was about to schedule a task every 10 seconds on xubuntu without net access so no external apps can be installed
[12:33] <OerHeks> isabdisab, you can repeat, too long ago
[12:33] <qrd> still not understanding why the set up is buggy for ubuntu has good maintainance
[12:33] <OerHeks> isabdisab, oh, read back, that is answered
[12:33] <isabdisab> Some suggested to use cron
[12:33] <OerHeks> there is no cron for seconds, only minutes
[12:33] <isabdisab> but Cron needs super user permissions
[12:34] <isabdisab> and I don't have on the machine
[12:34] <OerHeks> then i answered with an URL with sleep as solution
[12:34] <isabdisab> OerHeks: Ya, I saw
[12:34] <OerHeks> oh, no sudo? ask for the administrator then
[12:34] <isabdisab> OerHeks: Thanks btw :)
[12:35] <isabdisab> OerHeks: No one knows the password for the super user, we just bought the machine from a company that doesn't provides us
[12:35] <OerHeks> isabdisab, if you use i prof, i would do a fresh install, this looks like a security risc, don't you?
[12:38] <isabdisab> Another solution that I thought about, is writing a python script that does what I would do with cron, but I need to run the script every reboot
[12:38] <isabdisab> after every reboot
[12:39] <isabdisab> Because there is python on the machine
[12:45] <leftyfb> isabdisab: resetting the root password or adding your user to the system is really easy with recovery mode or booting into a live cd/usb
[12:45] <leftyfb> isabdisab: Also, cron does not need "super user permissions". Each user can have their own cron
[12:48] <isabdisab> leftyfb: Can't reset the password
[12:48] <isabdisab> leftyfb: not allowed to
[12:50] <leftyfb> isabdisab: Not allowed to change the password on a server you purchased? Also, why did you purchase a server running an OS that will be unsupported in 10 days?
[12:56] <analogical> where can I download the version of Ubuntu that companies like DigitalOcean and Linode use for droplets?
[12:57] <leftyfb> analogical: contact DO and Linode. If you want cloud images, they're found here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[12:57] <isabdisab> leftyfb: The computer is not mine, it's one of our clients. the computer is served as part of a highly expensive system/machine, and sort of one of a kind that a company abroad serving. Im just an employee.
[12:58] <analogical> leftyfb, can I use a cloud image on my home server?
[12:58] <leftyfb> analogical: try it
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lsyoyom, you'll have to contact the client for the pw so you can upgrade the server
[12:59] <BluesKaj> oops wrong nick
[13:00] <BluesKaj> isabdisab, ^
[13:00] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: heh, lsyoyom has been here for 2 years and has never said a word
[13:01] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, hehe, think there a whole lot of lurkers here
[13:02] <isabdisab> BluesKaj: You mean the provider? anyway, I can't do so because my bosses don't allow me
[13:02] <BluesKaj> isabdisab, so what do you expect from us ?
[13:02] <isabdisab> BluesKaj:
[13:03] <isabdisab> lol, I just asked if there is a way to do so
[13:03] <isabdisab> If there isn't
[13:03] <isabdisab> so there isn't
[13:03] <isabdisab> But I want to check whether there is an option or not
[13:05] <BluesKaj> then tell the provider that the OS needs upgrading within 10 days or it's unsupported
[13:05] <atheodo> hi
[13:06] <cfhowlett> atheodo, greetings
[13:06] <atheodo> i hit a major snug with ubuntu on a lattidue e7450
[13:06] <cfhowlett> atheodo, details?
[13:06] <atheodo> when th installer loads it gives a hardware error
[13:06] <atheodo> but win 10 instlals without any issue
[13:07] <cfhowlett> atheodo, same error, same place everytime?
[13:07] <atheodo> i then get an error mid way that the cd rom is dirty, but installing from a usb not a cd rom
[13:07] <atheodo> i even swamped disks out, tried a different ssd with the same results
[13:07] <cfhowlett> atheodo, same error, same place everytime?????
[13:07] <Ryvius> Hello, how do I find out what requires a new package to be installed when running apt upgrade?
[13:07] <atheodo> yes
[13:07] <atheodo> almost to the end of copying things to the hard drive
[13:08] <atheodo> i built 3 ubuntu boxes last night
[13:08] <atheodo> went smooth like a song
[13:08] <atheodo> one was a built from scratch
[13:08] <atheodo> amd ryzen
[13:08] <atheodo> my new baby :-)
[13:08] <cfhowlett> atheodo, with the same USB each time?
[13:08] <atheodo> amd 7 64gb ram and an amd gpu with nvme hard drives
[13:08] <atheodo> this think smokes from the speed :-)
[13:09] <atheodo> that i did not try
[13:09] <atheodo> only have one lying around
[13:09] <atheodo> will go to walmart to grab a couple more
[13:09] <atheodo> and maybe use etcher to burn the bootable image you think?
[13:09] <atheodo> instaling open suse on it right now
[13:09] <atheodo> from a passport ssd
[13:09] <atheodo> i want to see what the result of that is
[13:09] <cfhowlett> atheodo,  stop hitting<enter>!
[13:10] <atheodo> however, the same usb was used to install win 10 without any trouble on the same laptop
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | Ryvius
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, you can also apt full-upgrade -s          which will simulate but not execute the command
[13:11] <Ryvius> Anyways my real issue is that updating wants to install GNUstep, which can't be intentional, but it's KDE Neon so not for this channel I guess
[13:11] <Ryvius> And it seems like it's ark that depends on unar that depends on GNUstep
[13:12] <leftyfb> Ryvius: its not. Seek support from KDE Neon. We only support Ubuntu here.
[13:12] <atheodo> do you guys know if there is an opensuse channel?
[13:12] <alexandre9099> hey, is the installer suposed to still be installed on the installed version? (i installed ubuntu to my disk, but the installer is still there on the favorites)
[13:12] <leftyfb> !alis | atheodo
[13:12] <cfhowlett> alexandre9099, did you reboot into the installed version?
[13:13] <alexandre9099> cfhowlett, sure, i doesn't really bother me, i just removed it from the favs, but it is a little bit strange
[13:13] <alexandre9099> also, grub failed to set dualboot between antergos and ubuntu, but i did the partitions manually, so that might be the reason
[13:15] <atheodo> guess what open suse installed without a problem
[13:16] <atheodo> and it recognizes all the hardware
[13:16] <atheodo> I don't know what to make out of this is ubuntu and open suse sharing the same unix kernel underneath? at least I was able to install the gnome desktop
[13:16] <alexandre9099> well, that's nice, i guess :D
[13:17] <alexandre9099> both use linux yes (not unix)
[13:18] <atheodo> so is linux = unix, or is unix different?
[13:19] <alexandre9099> unix is a kernel, linux is another. Linux is "inspired" on unix
[13:22] <atheodo> have you guys tried kde plasma on ubuntu? do you like it?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | atheodo
[13:27] <atheodo> can i run 2 monitors with ubuntu?
[13:27] <raidghost> of course you can.
[13:28] <raidghost> Nada Problem
[13:28] <atheodo> so i shut down, hook up the second monitor and then it will recognize ? do we have display properties like on the mac to arrnage monitors, etc.?
[13:29] <raidghost> atheodo: If you got a graphical card with support for 2 monitors. Its just plug and play.
[13:30] <raidghost> shutdown and reboot and tada. 2 monitors on
[13:30] <atheodo> ok, thank you i do have an amd rx9 something, just built this computer yesterday, but was not sure if i can have a second monitor with it
[13:31] <raidghost> My little brother has 4 monitors on his computer with ubuntu, works like a charm. Hope you have a lovely easter :)
[13:43] <wabbits> hello #ubuntu trying to install 16.04.1 on a powermac g4 and live cd seems to run a welcome app that hangs the system.
[13:44] <wabbits> so I added a grub parameter to go to a mulit-user shell
[13:44] <wabbits> what is the root password or how do I get past the login?
[13:47] <vlt> wabbits: I think there is no root passwd.
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> wabbits: there are more recent xenial iso's out there then .1
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> wabbits: also perhaps try a 18.04 on your mac? i had good results with it on macs
[13:48] <wabbits> lotuspsychje its a 32 bit powerpc
[13:48] <wabbits> Its actually ubuntu mate
[13:49] <wabbits> vlt testing your hypothesis
[13:51]  * vlt wonders how one tests the non-existence of something
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> wabbits: could try a lubuntu 18.04 32bit
[13:51] <wabbits> its a powerpc not x86
[13:52] <wabbits> perhaps you could share a link to an iso
[13:52] <Paavi2_0> both are 32 bit but 32bit in context of distros more than often refer to x86_32bit
[13:53] <wabbits> vlt tried user=root with password="" and result is fail
[13:54] <vlt> wabbits: The password is not ""
[13:54] <vlt> wabbits: There is none.
[13:54] <wabbits> said another way, I hit enter at the password prompt and it failed to login
[13:55] <vlt> wabbits: Because there is no password to login afaik.
[13:55] <wabbits> ok so how would I get past the getty?
[13:56] <dsc_> hi, how to give a binary I have in /usr/local/bin precedence over /usr/bin?
[13:56] <dsc_> is there an alt install cmd I can do ?
[13:57] <wabbits> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getty_(Unix)
[13:58] <dsc_> nvm
[13:58] <qwebirc53833> Hi, need help with setting up ubuntu container in docker... am I in the right group?
[14:01] <ph88> is it better to reinstall or dist-upgrade ?
[14:02] <compdoc> if dist-upgrade doesnt work, then reinstall  :)
[14:03] <ph88> so dist-upgrade is prefered ?
[14:03] <compdoc> its easier, and if it works fine then worth a try
[14:04] <compdoc> some people will always reinstall, I think
[14:05] <cmihai> `apt reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer` fails with `Failed to fetch http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe  Could not connect to downloads.sourceforge.net:80 (216.105.38.13). - connect (113: No route to host)` on 19.04. Ides?
[14:12] <wabbits> is there a ncurses install wizard?
[14:16]  * wabbits puts powerbook g4 back in closet in case its ever 2005 again
[14:16] <tomreyn> wabbits: there are three text mode installers: ubuntu server(-live), based on subiquity, alternative server and mini.iso (both based on debian-installer)
[14:17] <wabbits> tomreyn can you point me to one for 32bit powerpc please?
[14:19] <tomreyn> cmihai: this looks like an issue on your end. I can connect to port 80 on the single IP address downloads.sourceforge.net resolves to just fine from here.
[14:19] <tomreyn> that's 216.105.38.13
[14:20] <tomreyn> wabbits: which ubuntu version?
[14:20] <wabbits> 16.04
[14:20] <wabbits> I think I found something
[14:20] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-powerpc
[14:20] <wabbits> nope
[14:21] <wabbits> thanks I will
[14:21] <wabbits> cheers
[14:23] <eltese> Hello! I'm currently on the LiveCD and I am going to install Ubuntu.
[14:24] <eltese> Now I have recentyl been using Arch but I removed both those partitions in the Ubuntu installer. Now , my hdd setup is 1 ssd (sdb) and 1 big HDD (sda). I would like to encrypt both and unlock with just 1 password. Is that easily done?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> pretty sure ecryptfs can handle that no issues but read up first
[14:26] <Daekdroom> Hello, I've updated Ubuntu to 19.04, and now QT5 applications no longer pick up GTK theme colors. Is there any way to fix that?
[14:28] <tomreyn> eltese: there's not automation or GUI for setting this up, no.
[14:29] <eltese> tomreyn: I figured
[14:30] <qwebirc53833> i get a parse error for set-acl command in the following script
[14:30] <qwebirc53833> param([string] $Root) $acl = Get-Acl -Path $Root $vmGroupRule = new-object System.Security.AccessControl.FileSystemAccessRule("NT VIRTUAL MACHINE\Virtual Machines", "FullControl","ContainerInherit,ObjectInherit", "None", "Allow") $acl.SetAccessRule($vmGroupRule) Set-Acl -AclObject $acl -Path $Root
[14:30] <eltese> tomreyn: Then I have another question. Say I choose the SSD now for the installation and encryption etc. Can I then later in the installed system format the HDD and add it to the environment? Or am I setting myself up for a headache if I do it like that
[14:30] <qwebirc53833> pardon me, i am new to powershell scripting
[14:30] <tomreyn> eltese: your best approach is to install ubuntu first on one of those disk with FDE (except /boot, since no installer supports incl. /boot - other than debootstrap), then add the other disk laster, and set up automation to unlock the second disk when the first one is unlocked.
[14:30] <tomreyn> eltese: another approach would be md0
[14:31] <tomreyn> err RAID-0
[14:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc53833: this is the ubuntu support channel, you'll be better served seeking support on a support channel for the scripting language you'Re using.
[14:32] <eltese> tomreyn: Yes, that does sound like the best approach. Thanks so much for your time ! :)
[14:33] <tomreyn> eltese: you're welcome. i have some notes here on how to do a FDE incl /boot here if you want.
[14:36] <eltese> tomreyn: Yes, that would be great :)
[14:41] <lain> hello! :)
[14:43] <plongshot> Does anyone know if this feature is supported in ubuntu? I am looking at new laptops and some have some amazing new tech.  https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8119/intel-optane-memory-matters/index.html
[14:43] <plongshot> Intel Optane Memory ^
[14:44] <rapidwave> Basically, I want to create a complete system image backup except that it won't be an installable type image, but restorable.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> plongshot, cutting edge tech is always questionable as it takes awhile for linux to catch up.  Unless that tech is specifically linux ready at release I'd pass.
[14:44] <rapidwave> Any backup app that will automatically scan and store all user installed applications, documents, /opt/ contents, and home directory?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> rapidwave, if you configure to so, yes.
[14:45] <rapidwave> Which app would that be?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !backup | rapidwave
[14:55] <hyena_> hello everyone! just testing
[14:55] <plongshot> cfhowlett: Thx for the tip
[14:55] <cfhowlett> happy2help1 plongshot
[14:55] <plongshot> I gotta run
[14:55] <plongshot> :)
[15:02] <rapidwave> !cloning
[15:02] <cfhowlett> I've done it, rapidwave.  it works
[15:03] <cfhowlett> or ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages
[15:07] <rapidwave> It seems to want a specified destination to clone to...I guess just specify a directory that I can then burn to DVDs?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> yep
[15:08] <rapidwave> Hmm. Doesn't appear to give progress
[15:11] <rapidwave> What measurement is used for displaying file size using ls -l ?
[15:11] <rapidwave> It just created a clone file in like a minute, I don't see how that is possible.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> what are you using rapidwave
[15:11] <Guest694> Regarding release 19.04, does the new fractional scaling option support scaling independently on differnt displays?
[15:11] <rapidwave> apt-clone
[15:11] <Guest694> like 125% on one display and 150% on another?
[15:12] <xamithan> They are bytes
[15:12] <xamithan> -h flag is more readable
[15:12] <rapidwave> The file is only 88K,  I know I have at least a gigabyte or two of stuff
[15:13] <rapidwave> Oh..I should have mentioned, I intend to burn the backup to at least a few DVDs, I need the software to support splitting the backup into multiple files
[15:14] <cfhowlett> best to check the man file there rapidwave.  I
[15:14] <rapidwave> Oh..it's not actually storing all the software, it's storing references to things.
[15:17] <ioria> Guest694, on wayoand it should work
[15:17] <ioria> *wayland
[15:21] <vagnerdev> Thanks lotuspsychje
[15:29] <Deihmos> what is a good file system that both windows and ubuntu can use? exfat?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Deihmos, bad idea.  BAD idea
[15:31] <Deihmos> i have ext4 for a usb drive but i want to change it to something that windows can also use
[15:31] <xamithan> Use a network file system if you want that
[15:31] <xamithan> Oh for usb,  exfat is fine
[15:31] <Deihmos> sometimes i want to connect it to a win pc
[15:31] <Deihmos> ok exfat
[15:31] <Deihmos> ntfs has some overhead on linux
[15:42] <cfhowlett> I deleted a program in ubuntu 18.04.  the icon remains on the desktop.  how do I kill this thing?
[15:42] <ovnicraft> hi, i recently installed ubuntu 18 so i have a warning about linux firmware: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gv100/* for nouveau
[15:43] <ovnicraft> so i list linux-firmware package
[15:43] <ovnicraft> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/all/linux-firmware/filelist
[15:43] <ovnicraft> so repo https://github.com/wkennington/linux-firmware/tree/master/nvidia/gv100
[15:43] <ovnicraft> got it
[15:44] <ovnicraft>  iwant to know why ubuntu dont package this firmware ?
[16:14] <eltese> Hi! Does anyone know if you can update a single package? I just downloaded and installed teamspeak 3 and need to update it (it wont let me connect to a specific server otherwise) and everytime I click on update it says not able to update
[16:16] <cfhowlett> what is the reason it won't update
[16:17] <eltese> cfhowlett: I have no idea. It just says "unable to update" and exits
[16:18] <JayDoubleu> does any1 have any hints on how to make pidgin tray icon to look normal size on 19.03 gnome ? It is really tiny now
[16:18] <laice> Just to clarify - is this the teamspeak application itself or through a package manager like apt / software centre?
[16:18] <eltese> cfhowlett: I might have been installing it the wrong way though, so I just removed it and gonna try another way
[16:18] <JayDoubleu> This is how it looks like comparing to other tray icons. Is it because it is an gtk2 application ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lkVewJfc/image.png
[16:18] <eltese> laice: I did it via apt, I just followed a guide I found via google
[16:19] <eltese> https://forum.teamspeak.com/threads/131452-How-to-install-TeamSpeak-Client-on-Ubuntu-16-x <- gonna try that one instead, since that seems to give me the latest version right off the bat
[16:20] <laice> eltese: Normally when I install I grab the .run file, chmod +x it and run it through terminal.  Not a clean install though that way as it doesn't install application shortcuts to menus etc.  Guaranteed latest version though.
[16:20] <Guest54872> oi pessoal do irczão
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !br | Guest54872
[16:21] <eltese> laice: Yes, that is what the link I provided seems to do as well. Since it is a member of the TS team who typed it out I will jsut try that though =) Thanks for the help!
[16:24] <wondows_> So it looks like my keyboard and mouse issues were due to 2.4GHz interference with the wifi antennas on the back of my PC. Moved the Logi unified receiver to the front and it seems to be stable now.
[16:25]  * wondows_ needs to get a dual-band PCI wifi card..
[16:25] <mint_> Yeah dual band
[16:25] <mint_> Seems cool
[16:25] <OerHeks> wondows_, good find!
[16:25] <eltese> Just a quick update, following the guide worked
[16:26] <laice> eltese: no problem :)  Best of luck!
[16:26] <wondows_> Is there a way to restore all previously open apps on start up?
[16:27] <xamithan> use hibernate instead of shutdown ?
[16:27] <laice> ....well he's not wrong.
[16:30] <Rallo> i dont know if anyone can help me. so ive moved to Pop_OS but i went to install refind and deleted systemd-boot now i cant boot back into my linux, what can i do?
[16:31] <xamithan> I think you're in the wrong channel,  this is Ubuntu
[16:32] <cfhowlett> Rallo, ask the pop_os support team.
[16:32] <wondows_> xamithan: how to hibernate?
[16:32] <OerHeks> wondows_, not standard > https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications but the solution *DOES NOT WORK*  for gnome 3.3x so wait for an update
[16:33] <wondows_> damn
[16:33] <cfhowlett> I deleted a program in ubuntu 18.04.  the icon remains on the desktop.  how do I kill this thing?
[16:33] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, logout/login i guess
[16:33] <xamithan> You need a big swap file,  then you just select hibernate when you'd normally select shutdown
[16:34] <wondows_> So I was just browsing the web and my system crashed and I got this screen https://i.imgur.com/lYm0yus.jpg
[16:34] <cfhowlett> normal wondows_ it's cleaning up after the crash.  be patient
[16:34] <OerHeks> it is clean now
[16:35] <wondows_> I didn't wait, I restarted
[16:35] <Felistrix> Hello
[16:35] <OerHeks> nice resolution, btw
[16:35] <wondows_> 4K display
[16:37] <Oderus> hi all. each time I boot up I get a filesystem: clean message that pops on the screen as well as a USB error before SDDM. Is there a way to silence these messages so that my boot is seamless?
[16:37] <OerHeks> wondows_, so after your restart, did those messages come back of that autorepair?
[16:38] <wondows_> OerHeks: not sure but it seems there's always some messages like that which appear briefly during startup
[16:39] <eltese> hmm lets try another problem. Does anyone know how to get battery percentage to show for a wireless usb headset and wireless mouse?
[16:39] <Felistrix> I have php7 on ubuntu 18.04 and want to install the php extension xdebug. But with sudo apt-get install there is no package für xdebug. What can I do?
[16:41] <OerHeks> wondows, i guess if those errors remain, there is a bad sector perhaps on that disk, try a fsck run : fsck.ext4 -p /dev/sdaX  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[16:42] <OerHeks> eltese, Upower can do most devices https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/465084/is-there-a-way-to-see-the-remaining-battery-life-of-your-keyboard-mouse-on-ubunt
[16:42] <Soni> should I install 14.04?
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Soni, why do you ask?
[16:42] <OerHeks> Soni ... no, it will be end of life in a few days
[16:42] <Soni> because it's 5 days from EOL
[16:43] <cfhowlett> so do you really need us to answer this question for you?
[16:43] <Soni> fair enough
[16:44] <eltese> OerHeks: will check it out, thakns
[16:44] <eltese> thanks*
[16:44] <unix_mtf_> Soni: You should install, Lubuntu 18.10
[16:45] <OerHeks> i would stick to LTS, 18.04
[16:45] <Felistrix> how can i install php-xdebug?
[16:46] <unix_mtf_> I went for the 18.10
[16:46] <OerHeks> !info php-xdebug bionic
[16:46] <OerHeks> universe, make sure you have universe enabled
[16:47] <OerHeks> sudo add-apt-repository universe
[16:48] <eltese> OerHeks: I have no idea if you are able to answer this at all, but I followed your link (thanks btw :)) and tried the "upower --dump" cmd. However my printout was severly shorter, with no Logitech names at all (both the headset and mouse are from Logitech)
[16:48] <OerHeks> eltese, oke, then your devices are *too new*  i guess..
[17:07] <Felistrix> my computer get a bluescreen, so i don't know, who write the answer to me, but thank you for the help with my x-debug problem.
[17:38] <noobdevel> wooy
[17:38] <noobdevel> anybody from indonesia ?
[17:38] <noobdevel> hellow
[17:39] <ikanobori> People probably live in Indonesia but this channel is the Ubuntu support channel :)
[17:44] <penguin359> hello
[17:45] <penguin359> Is there a script or tool for detecting installing packages and matching them to the correct APT repository?
[17:45] <penguin359> Or finding ones not from a repository?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> penguin359: we reccomend to install packages only from the ubuntu official repos
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> penguin359: to find whats not from the official repos: !ppapurge
[17:50] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, I am running 18.04. I was wondering if the default app that opens pdf's is "evince" ? the software says "Document viewer " and "The evince authors"
[17:51] <noalternative> itchyjunk Yes it is evince
[17:52] <noalternative> document viewer is just a generic listing
[17:52] <[itchyjunk]> Does this program remember what page number a pdf is at? I was asking in ##linux and was told "evince" doesn't remember. So could ubuntu be doing something to remember what page i'm at?
[17:54] <noalternative> I am using 18.04 as well and I just bought a bluetooth keyboard.  The problem is I can't get it to work until I sign in requiring the use of the old wired one.
[17:54] <[itchyjunk]> lol
[17:55] <noalternative> Is there a way to get it to remember settings and allow the keyboard on the sign in page.
[17:55] <CookieM> yes, it remembers the page last visited in given document
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: try blueman, maybe the service will detect at
[17:55] <noalternative> I have blueman
[17:55] <noalternative> already
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: did you reboot after blueman install?
[17:56] <noalternative> yes
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: allright, maybe you need to autologin at boot in your case?
[17:56] <noalternative> several times
[17:56] <noalternative> how do I do and autologin at boot
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: systemsettings/details/users
[17:57] <jb0nd38372> '
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> jb0nd38372: can we help you?
[18:00] <ckopn> how to get information, where did I get a package? Was it installed from repo? which?
[18:01] <EriC^^> ckopn: apt-cache policy <package>
[18:01] <ckopn> thanks
[18:02] <noobdevel> ckopn: whatzapp guys
[18:03] <noalternative> thanks #ubuntu community.  That helped.
[18:03] <ckopn> noodevel have you updated for disco?
[18:04] <dyc3> On my laptop, xrandr isn't detecting the HDMI port. It was working yesterday. Any ideas?
[18:07] <ckopn> I have one terminal window with two tabs. How to switch between them with keys? ALT+TAB doesnt' work!
[18:09] <dyc3> ckopn: I'm assuming you're using gnome-terminal?
[18:09] <ckopn> which runs by ctrl+alt+t
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: wich ubuntu release are you on?
[18:10] <dyc3> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.10
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: is end of life
[18:10] <dyc3> ckopn: see here https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-terminal/stable/adv-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en
[18:11] <dyc3> lotuspsychje: ok, so should I just update and see if it starts working again?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: in your case, i would advice reinstall a supported version fresh
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: alot of security flaws came out since, would you still trust your system?
[18:12] <ioria> dyc3, yes, you need to upgrade but (may sound silly) : poweroff, disconnect hdmi, reboot, poweroff again, reconnect hdmi and start again
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: even if you wanted to upgrade, next version 17.04 is also EOL
[18:13] <dyc3> ioria: I've already run apt upgrade and rebooted
[18:13] <ioria> ckopn, it's not alt-tab , but alt+1 (or 2, etc.etc)
[18:14] <dyc3> lotuspsychje: can't I just upgrade to 18.04
[18:14] <ioria> dyc3, nope, i meant upgrade the release 18.10 > 19.04
[18:14] <ckopn> thanks ioria
[18:14] <ioria> ok
[18:15] <ioria> dyc3, oh, 16.10 ?
[18:15] <dyc3> ioria: yeah
[18:15] <ioria> dyc3, yes, you can upgrade to 18.04 , but usually weadvice for a fresh install
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> dyc3: no, upgrading from one eol to another eol isnt going to work
[18:16] <dyc3> lotuspsychje: ok, ill go reinstall
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> well it might work with !eolupgrade, but really not reccomended on your case
[18:16] <dyc3> lotuspsychje, ioria thanks for the tips
[18:17] <ioria> dyc3, ok, but try  what  i said above (just to confirm an issue )
[18:30] <aiden> hi
[18:31] <aiden> were are you from?
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> aiden: only ubuntu questions here please
[18:32] <noalternative> lotuspsychje the autologin doesn't work because 1)  I have to signin to keyring anyway, and 2) I still have to setup my bluetooth keyboard everytime..  Any other ideas?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: normally you can say to bluemand to 'trust' your device, this way you wont need to setup every time
[18:33] <noalternative> I  have set blueman to trust the device.
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: some devices might need a click, to blueman to recognize your device
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: so once on your desktop, try to click some keys on keyboard, maybe blueman icon will get blue
[18:34] <noalternative> I can't do that without a wired device either, since I have logitech bluetooth touchpad combol
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> noalternative: this method wored for me recently on a BT apple mouse
[18:35] <jeremy31> noalternative: try editing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf and change the last line to AutoEnable=true
[18:35] <noalternative> jeremy31 ok
[18:44] <belst> hi, is there a way to install libssl1.0 on 19.04? I can only find 1.1 in the repos
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !info libssl1.1 dingo
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> belst: did you try apt-cache search libssl ?
[18:47] <belst> yes
[18:47] <belst> only libssl1.1
[18:47] <jcotton> the bot speaks lies
[18:48] <belst> !info libssl1.1 disco
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> belst: then thats whats available for your ubuntu release
[18:48] <belst> I need libssl1.0 though
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> belst: what are you trying to make work?
[18:48] <belst> .net core
[18:49] <jcotton> this page is still up to only 18.10 https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/linux-package-manager/ubuntu18-10/sdk-current
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> belst: on 18.04 i see: libssl1.0.0
[18:50] <jcotton> and someone's already made an issue belst https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/2615
[18:50] <belst> why is there no libssl on 19.04 though :( on archlinux you have openssl and openssl-1.0 packages. very conveniente :D
[18:50] <jcotton> I mean there is tho
[18:51] <jcotton> just 1.1
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> maybe thats worth a bug, if there exist none yet
[18:51] <jcotton> not 1.0
[18:52] <ioria> belst, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/arm64/libssl1.0.0
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> belst: we also have a dotnet snap if you like
[18:53] <jcotton> is that from MS?
[18:53] <jcotton> or a 3rd-party?
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !who | jcotton
[18:53] <belst> ioria: wrong architecture
[18:53] <ioria> belst, it's the same
[18:54] <ioria> belst, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/amd64/libssl1.0.0
[18:54] <belst> arm64 and x86 are not the same
[18:54] <ioria> the same infosi mean
[18:58] <GODsGod> laptop get slow when battrey reach 10% .... i would like to change it to 5% .... how to do that ?
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | GODsGod try this
[19:01] <GODsGod> is there a file where i can just change the 10% value to 5
[19:03] <ioria> GODsGod, maybe in gsettings
[19:04] <kinghat> i am having a hell of a time getting grub to gui and not grub command line
[19:04] <ioria> GODsGod,  what  'gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power percentage-critical'    returns ?
[19:04] <GODsGod> thnx lotuspsychje and ioria ... for respond .... but i would like a direct way to solve it
[19:05] <TimeTrap> kinghat: are you trying to change the grub2 settings?
[19:05] <kinghat> ive tried boot-repair and grub customizer and still get the grub command line.
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> GODsGod: there's no magic red button in ubuntu to solve issues
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> GODsGod: sometimes it needs a bit tweaking
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> GODsGod: try what ioria suggesting, or dconf-editor, or laptop-mode-tools tweak
[19:07] <GODsGod> lotuspsychje ,,,, i mean i just want to know the 10% value located to just simply change it
[19:07] <firelegend> Hi all. /dev/mem has limitations placed on it for a while now. How may I read arbitrary data from there nowadays?
[19:08] <kinghat> TimeTrap: long story but i had os 1 and an ssd, then added os2 on another ssd, never used os 1 so i wiped that ssd which removed grub? so i did a boot-repair which got me the grub command line. ive tried to purge and replace as well.
[19:09] <Jon_> Evening everyone
[19:09] <Jon_> is it okay to talk about support in here?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest2066: if its related to ubuntu
[19:10] <TimeTrap> kinghat: so you get command-line instead of menu?
[19:10] <kinghat> ya
[19:11] <kinghat> i even tried using grub customizer and just saving the default settings but that didnt work either.
[19:11] <Anjor> I just experienced a weird bug, and I came to let people know about it.  I just upgraded to the new release. XFCE4.  Upon closing a WINE application, the panel's window button disappeared as expected, but the space between applications also remained after the app was closed.  Ther was a gap between apps in the panel bar, a gap where the WINE app was.  When I alt-tabbed through windows, the gap remained, but
[19:11] <Anjor> no window was there to have it's display name or a button in the panel.
[19:12] <Anjor> I tried to take a screenshot, but that opened a new window, and that action closed the gap.  Thus, no proof or evidence.
[19:12] <firelegend> kinghat: I also experienced what you do.
[19:12] <Jonopoly> Which is lighter ubuntu mate
[19:12] <firelegend> Yesterday I had cloned my HDD to an SSD but grub failed to work
[19:12] <Jonopoly> or Xubuntu ?
[19:12] <Anjor> Has anyone expericed anything similar? Closing a window, but the panel leaves a gap where that window was.
[19:12] <Anjor> XFCE4 is lighter than MATE
[19:12] <Anjor> Both are very similar though.
[19:13] <Jonopoly> I think xfce is more easier for beginners
[19:13] <Jonopoly> with customisation
[19:13] <Anjor> You wont notice much of a difference between the two DEs unless you are really hurting for resources
[19:13] <firelegend> kinghat: You could try to boot manually
[19:13] <firelegend> but....that may fail
[19:13] <firelegend> what needs to happen is
[19:13] <firelegend> you need a live cd
[19:14] <Jonopoly> Well i've only got 4GB ram, 32bit Celeron 2.4mhz Processor
[19:14] <kinghat> if i try to boot manually i get to grub command line.
[19:14] <Jonopoly> so i think xubuntu is easiest
[19:14] <firelegend> or really anything with a linux terminal on it, mount SSD2
[19:14] <firelegend> and well, you need to do some advanced actions
[19:14] <kinghat> im in the desktop i want to currently, via grub command line.
[19:14] <kinghat> "advanced actions"?
[19:14] <firelegend> kinghat: Oh so you booted?
[19:15] <kinghat> i booted by manually loading the kernel and such via the grub command line.
[19:15] <firelegend> And it works?
[19:15] <kinghat> i want regular gui grub.
[19:15] <firelegend> Ok, so does sudo update-grub not help?
[19:15] <kinghat> no
[19:15] <firelegend> What does it do?
[19:17] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/eveyezaz.yaml
[19:17] <firelegend> Can you please paste /etc/default/grub?
[19:18] <firelegend> Also do a sudo blkid and post the result
[19:19] <kinghat> what do you mean paste /etc/default/grub?
[19:19] <firelegend> yes
[19:19] <firelegend> obviously not here
[19:19] <firelegend> on some paste site
[19:19] <kinghat> i dont know what that means
[19:19] <firelegend> It means to open the file called grub located in /etc/default folder
[19:20] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/viciyema.gradle
[19:21] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/imexapob.shell
[19:22] <firelegend> Now please open file grub.cfg in /boot/grub and paste that as well
[19:22] <firelegend> thats essentially the "GUI" grub
[19:23] <kinghat> i dont have a grub.cfg there
[19:23] <firelegend> hmm
[19:23] <firelegend> are you sure?
[19:24] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/biyukoqu.swift
[19:24] <EriC^^> it's inside /boot/grub
[19:24] <firelegend> you have to open the grub folder
[19:24] <firelegend> I had some grub headaches as well
[19:24] <firelegend> from cloning hdd os to ssd
[19:25] <firelegend> update-grub also failed to fix everything up
[19:25] <GODsGod> nevermind found it in /etc/UPower/UPower.conf
[19:25] <firelegend> But I was determined and managed to fix it by manually hacking it
[19:26] <kinghat> ah sorry: https://hasteb.in/tahoporo.bash
[19:27] <kinghat> this is what grub customizer shows: https://i.imgur.com/ypmnbfd.png
[19:28] <kinghat> boot-repair said it finished successfully the last time i ran it.
[19:28] <firelegend> there is one more file to open
[19:29] <firelegend> but you need to do ls /boot/efi so I can see the name of the os there
[19:29] <kinghat> its only "EFI" in /boot/efi
[19:29] <firelegend> sorry
[19:29] <firelegend> ls /boot/efi/EFI
[19:30] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/otatirer.gradle
[19:30] <GODsGod> is there a risk to not be able to recharge the battrey when changing the PercentageAction value in UPower.conf to 0 ,,,, after completly drain it ?
[19:31] <firelegend> ok so paste me the file contents of /boot/efi/EFI/neon/grub.cfg
[19:32] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/osodofaq.bash
[19:33] <firelegend> Hmm
[19:33] <firelegend> Everything seems to be in order there
[19:33] <firelegend> all the UUIDs match
[19:34] <firelegend> and I am guessing hd1,gpt2 is how you booted from grub shell?
[19:34] <kinghat> ya
[19:35] <firelegend> Hmm
[19:35] <firelegend> what about the contents of file /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/grub.cfg?
[19:35] <kinghat> this is what i ran in the grub shell: https://hasteb.in/ozobovev.sql
[19:36] <kinghat> firelegend: i dont have a grub.cfg there
[19:37] <firelegend> What files are there?
[19:37] <kinghat> bkpbootx64.efi  bootx64.efi  fbx64.efi
[19:39] <firelegend> Hmm
[19:41] <firelegend> Ok, what about the output of lsblk?
[19:41] <Term1nal> So... I have some weird "held back" packages after upgrading to 19.04, trying to fix them.. it wants to uninstall seemingly every package in my system. What do? https://ghostbin.com/paste/tfxg4
[19:41] <firelegend> Another thing I can think of
[19:42] <firelegend> is that there is an efi entry that might be wrong
[19:42] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/susiwepo.coffeescript
[19:43] <firelegend> What about the output of sudo efibootmgr -v?
[19:44] <firelegend> Cause at this point it has to be a bad efi entry
[19:44] <firelegend> All UUIDs are normal, /boot/efi is on the one and only EFI system partition, with correct grub.cfg
[19:44] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/acirumek.yaml
[19:45] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, Ubuntu 18.04 under Ubuntu Software, I see 2 instances of VLC
[19:45] <firelegend> kinghat: When you are rebooting your computer
[19:45] <[itchyjunk]> The discriptions are slightly different and one has 5 stars under it and the other doesn't.
[19:45] <firelegend> Could it be
[19:46] <firelegend> that your BIOS is loading the bad efi entry?
[19:46] <firelegend> If you reboot your computer try to select a different boot device
[19:46] <firelegend> the one that says ubuntu for instance
[19:47] <kinghat> every time i rebot i make sure to manually test all the entries from that drive, the all go to grub command line.
[19:47] <firelegend> All of them?
[19:48] <kinghat> this is what it looks like. i try to boot all P1s: https://i.imgur.com/jIhUR43.png
[19:48] <kinghat> and the top UEFI OS
[19:48] <kinghat> my bios is set to boot both legacy and efi.
[19:49] <firelegend> What if you disable legacy mode?
[19:49] <firelegend> If that doesn't work, try adding a manual efi entry
[19:49] <firelegend> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Efibootmgr#Creating_a_boot_entry
[19:49] <firelegend> But really at this point it should be working.
[19:49] <kinghat> ok one sec
[19:55] <kinghat> firelegend: now I only get these options and all go to grub command line:  https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/bf75c1ba455f971f/1555790108949252548796919619968.jpg
[19:56] <firelegend> Ok, so boot into your OS again via grub shell
[19:56] <firelegend> and try adding an efi entry manually
[19:57] <kinghat> leaving the setting I just changed in bios?
[19:58] <dtx> Does ubuntu 1904 work with secure boot?
[19:59] <dtx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot
[19:59] <dtx> it should work fine right?
[20:00] <jcotton> should
[20:00] <jcotton> dtx: note if you're using nonfree gpy drivers you may need to reinstall them
[20:00] <jcotton> to trigger the signing process
[20:00] <firelegend> kinghat: At this point it does no harm
[20:01] <firelegend> I would also remove UEFI OS entry
[20:01] <firelegend> just to see if it's the reason for booting to grub shell
[20:02] <kinghat> so something interesting happened. i had set a custom background with grub customizer and and after i hit enter on the last command in grub shell that background flashed for a second before booting to desktop.
[20:03] <kinghat> firelegend: which one? https://hasteb.in/yisexiho.yaml
[20:04] <firelegend> I'd remove both
[20:04] <firelegend> Cause I see that BootCurrent shows the entry to be UEFI OS
[20:04] <firelegend> so perhaps...somehow you are booting that entry even if you select another.
[20:04] <firelegend> However
[20:05] <firelegend> I do think it's harmless to delete it
[20:05] <firelegend> but should you not be able to get to grub shell
[20:05] <firelegend> you will need a live cd
[20:05] <kinghat> so leave 0001?
[20:05] <firelegend> yeah
[20:05] <firelegend> And reboot and test
[20:06] <CrazySam> i keep getting "xrdp login failed for display 0" when i try to sign in from a windows pc. what gives?
[20:07] <CrazySam> is it not the same as standard user?
[20:07] <CrazySam> root as user is not working either
[20:08] <xamithan> It is not the same, no
[20:08] <kinghat> firelegend: ok now i just have the one entry. reboot?
[20:08] <firelegend> Before that
[20:08] <firelegend> lets try adding another efi entry
[20:08] <kinghat> i dont need to do the unmerge?
[20:08] <firelegend> unmerge?
[20:09] <kinghat> in that article you linked
[20:09] <kinghat> very bottom under removal
[20:09] <CrazySam> how should i know what credential to sign in with?
[20:09] <xamithan> There should be an xrdp.ini you set it up yourself CrazySam
[20:09] <surak_> how do I start the auto dhcp config in ubuntu server?
[20:10] <xamithan> Probably under /etc/xrdp
[20:11] <firelegend> Btw
[20:11] <firelegend> I just saw a user
[20:11] <firelegend> mention secure boot
[20:11] <firelegend> Could it be affecting ubuntu?
[20:11] <kinghat> secure boot is disabled in my bios
[20:12] <HMast> I am trying to install the 32bit vulkan binaries for lutris on disco dingo but the ppas do not yet support dingo, is there any way to install the vulkan 32 bit binaries on dingo? i have an intel gpu
[20:12] <s3nd1v0g1us> how can i alter/reroute my DNS on Ubuntu? (that is, i want to use a different server.)
[20:12] <s3nd1v0g1us> for instance, 8.8.8.8 google open DNS
[20:13] <kinghat> firelegend: dont worry about that removal thing and just add an efi?
[20:13] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/kuwiguqi.yaml
[20:13] <kinghat> thats what it looks like currently
[20:13] <firelegend> Add another entry just in case
[20:13] <firelegend> just in case some guid did not get updated there
[20:14] <osboxes_> hello
[20:14] <firelegend> In your case it would be something like
[20:15] <Term1nal> So... I have some weird "held back" packages after upgrading to 19.04, trying to fix them.. it wants to uninstall seemingly every package in my system. What do? https://ghostbin.com/paste/tfxg4
[20:16] <firelegend> efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 2 -L "Neon" -l '\EFI\neon\shimx64.efi'
[20:16] <firelegend> hmm
[20:16] <firelegend> Let me check one thing
[20:17] <kinghat> is that correct for -p?
[20:19] <firelegend> Well partition 2
[20:19] <firelegend> you have 2 partitions in your sdb disk
[20:20] <firelegend> Also try adding efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 2 -L "Neon GRUB" -l '\EFI\neon\grubx64.efi'
[20:20] <firelegend> Hmm wait
[20:20] <kinghat> ya i just dont understand if its the / 2 or /efi 1 partition to use.
[20:21] <firelegend> Yeah sorry I err'ed a bit there
[20:21] <firelegend> -p 1
[20:21] <kinghat> i havent added anything yet
[20:21] <firelegend> partition 1 for the EFI Fsystem
[20:22] <firelegend> --part or -p followed by the partition number on which the EFI System Partition is hosted;
[20:22] <firelegend> So yes, -p 1 for the EFI partition
[20:22] <kinghat> "sudo efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -L "Neon" -l '\EFI\neon\shimx64.efi'"
[20:22] <firelegend> Which would mean efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -L "Neon" -l '\EFI\neon\shimx64.efi' and efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -L "Neon GRUB" -l '\EFI\neon\grubx64.efi'
[20:22] <firelegend> Yes, then check the entries with efibootmgr -v
[20:23] <surak_> how do I Re-run the auto DHCP configuration?
[20:23] <kinghat> https://hasteb.in/viqukuma.yaml
[20:24] <firelegend> Looks ok
[20:24] <firelegend> and then when you reboot
[20:24] <firelegend> Select Neon Grub to test if it works
[20:24] <firelegend> If it doesn't I see both entries of ubuntu and Neon are identical
[20:24] <firelegend> If those dont work either I would be out of ideas
[20:25] <firelegend> The only culprit left would be the BOOT folder in /boot/efi/EFI
[20:25] <firelegend> mine contains grub files in there as well
[20:25] <firelegend> yours doesnt
[20:25] <kinghat> none of them work
[20:26] <Jonopoly> almost tempted to swap to another distro
[20:26] <Jonopoly> feel like i've changed so much >_>
[20:28] <kinghat> damn
[20:28] <tatertots> s3nd1v0g1us: do you have a network icon in the task bar near the time on the lower right hand side of your screen?
[20:29] <tatertots> s3nd1v0g1us: "edit connections"
[20:29] <s3nd1v0g1us> yes. tatertots
[20:29] <tatertots> s3nd1v0g1us: then it's self explanatory from there
[20:29] <s3nd1v0g1us> thx
[20:30] <tatertots> s3nd1v0g1us: no worries
[20:30] <Jonopoly> who is using what DE atm?
[20:30] <kinghat> firelegend: i mean i tried a purge and reinstall but that didnt work before. shouldnt that always work?
[20:30] <kinghat> did it reinstall based on a previous config?
[20:41] <yov00> Good evening, is somebody familiar with this issue:Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0".
[20:42] <yov00> From "vulkaninfo"
[20:42] <HMast> hi yall
[20:45] <firelegend> kinghat: I imagine it did not work?
[20:45] <Jonopoly> is there a main difference between, Lubuntu, LXDE and LXLE ?
[20:45] <kinghat> no it didnt
[20:46] <firelegend> neither options?
[20:46] <firelegend> I can only then suggest copying several files to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT
[20:46] <kinghat> none of them
[20:46] <kinghat> just tried a repair again: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3qNmY3QgHV/
[20:47] <mra90> what can I use to diff two repositories?
[20:47] <firelegend> And grub customizer?
[20:52] <kinghat> so after a reboot after the boot-repair i dont get grub at all. all options just boot directly to the os.
[20:53] <kinghat> what the options look like now: https://hasteb.in/dizoyoya.yaml
[20:55] <kinghat> that boot folder still doesnt have anything other than the .efi files
[20:59] <df00z> Anyone know how to disable pulseaudio from starting?  Trying autospawn=no in /etc/pulse/client.conf, i swear that used to work
[20:59] <df00z> i dont want to uninstall it, just disable
[20:59] <arooni> is there a particular reason why genymotion android emulator seems to work so much better on my 2012 mac mini (intel 3210-m i5 / 16gb of ram) versus my laptop running ubuntu 18.04 (intel 2520m w/ 12gb of ram)?
[21:05] <kinghat> firelegend: which files?
[21:07] <firelegend> kinghat: Well there are a few
[21:15] <kinghat> is there a way to just wipe it all and start fresh? it should give the correct files shouldnt it?
[21:16] <firelegend> Yeah
[21:16] <firelegend> full format
[21:16] <firelegend> of the drive
[21:16] <firelegend> Including the partitions
[21:17] <kinghat> to reinstall grub?
[21:17] <firelegend> To reinstall ubuntu
[21:17] <firelegend> or whichever os you have
[21:17] <firelegend> did you try grub customizer?
[21:17] <firelegend> on sdb1?
[21:18] <kinghat> ya. like i said, for a flash of a second i get the custom background image i gave it.
[21:24] <CrazySam> i'm trying to establish rdp connection to a server, i have xrdp installed and ubuntu desktop, and startwm.sh is edited
[21:24] <CrazySam> i get to login to xrdp
[21:25] <kinghat> firelegend: im done messing with it for now. tyvm for your help and time.
[21:25] <CrazySam> what "module" should i pick here? sesman-Xvnc? rdp-any? freerdp-any? console?
[21:25] <xamithan> Whatever module fits your needs, I like sesman
[21:26] <CrazySam> really? even if it says "vnc-any"?
[21:26] <CrazySam> even i know vnc is not rdp
[21:27] <CrazySam> how do you figure?
[21:27] <Term1nal> So... I have some weird "held back" packages after upgrading to 19.04, trying to fix them.. it wants to uninstall seemingly every package in my system. What do? https://ghostbin.com/paste/tfxg4
[21:28] <CrazySam> "sesman" option asks for "ip"
[21:28] <CrazySam> that's "sesman-any"
[21:28] <tatertots> arooni: yes multiple reasons, most of them beyond the scope of the OS software
[21:29] <CrazySam> waht ip do i type in here?
[21:29] <xamithan> 127.0.0.1 probably
[21:29] <arooni> tatertots: so vms running android dont work that well on ubuntu?
[21:29] <xamithan> Its localhost right ?
[21:29] <tatertots> arooni: "beyond" the scope of the OS software
[21:30] <arooni> well from what i can see the cpus of these two machines are very equivalent;  as is the ram
[21:30] <arooni> the laptop supports intel's virtualization technology
[21:31] <firelegend> kinghat: Np
[21:31] <CrazySam> it doesn't want to play with me :(
[21:31] <firelegend> Wish I could have solved this for you
[21:31] <firelegend> because next time it could be me with the same problem
[21:32] <tatertots> arooni: keep in mind, that's just what "you" can see, i say this because it's important to distinguish that a untrained eye is more susceptible to seeing certain things and a trained eye would see yet some other things
[21:32] <CrazySam> xrdp_mm_process_login_response:login successful for displa...
[21:32] <CrazySam> connecting to 127.0.0.1 5910 error - problem connecting
[21:32] <arooni> tatertots: i completely agree.  that's why i asked here
[21:34] <tatertots> arooni: i used the term "beyond" and even put it in quotes because you can't download transistors and or silicone just yet in the year 2019
[21:34] <tatertots> arooni: you're not going to do anything in software to make up for the difference of the two non identical hardwares
[21:35] <tatertots> arooni: you can try if you elect to...
[21:35] <arooni> tatertots: well i just thought that the cpu's being almost the same speed & architecture would make them equivalent performance
[21:35] <tatertots> arooni: first realize the power diff on those and also TURBO
[21:36] <arooni> probably ram speed is different too
[21:36] <tatertots> arooni: and nothing you can do in any software is going to have you TURBO
[21:36] <tatertots> give you
[21:36] <arooni> well the processor int he laptop claims to be able to go turbo too
[21:36] <tatertots> arooni: sorry to burst your bubble of you thought you would do something in software
[21:37] <arooni> no just trying to make debugging bearable on my laptop
[21:37] <Term1nal> Might anyone be able to assist me with a wierd package issue? Would appreciate it muchly.
[21:37] <arooni> maybe its time for new hardware :\
[21:38] <tatertots> arooni: also a laymen comparing FCLGA1155 platform to PPGA988 platform isn't a chat conversation I will participate in
[21:39] <tatertots> aimed at different market demographics, and not only that a 3-5 year time span
[21:39] <arooni> well at least i learned cpu architecture matters more than i thought.  i thought # of cores, clock speed, and cache size was all that mattered
[21:40] <tatertots> arooni: that's just all that marketing stuff they put on the box to lure joe six pack guys
[21:41] <tatertots> arooni: of course joe six pack thinks 2.5Ghz MUST ALWAYS be better than 2.0Ghz.....
[21:41]  * tatertots whispers ....that's not always true
[21:41] <arooni> tatertots:  interesting .  what should  i be looking for in the cpu of my next laptop?  i am pretty set on a thinkpad of some sort.  likely will only be running linux.
[21:41] <arooni> tatertots: well 4 cores at 2Ghz is better than 4 at 2.5 i'd think
[21:42] <tatertots> arooni: and since i also said "beyond" the scope of the OS software (ubuntu ) one of these OPS/MOD guys is gonna get all puffy if you get deep into a non ubuntu related "hardware" conversation
[21:42] <tatertots> so i'm out
[21:42] <arooni> tatertots: well i would think that asking what is a good cpu for running ubuntu on is a valid conversation.  but w/e
[21:52] <CrazySam> does ubuntu 16.04 use x11?
[21:54] <bprompt> CrazySam:    hmmm what do you mean?
[21:55] <CrazySam> bprompt: as in "sesman-X11rdp"
[21:56] <bprompt> CrazySam:    hmmm I see an /etc/X11 folder if that helps =)
[21:57] <xamithan> Are you using gnome?  Why can't you just use gnome-session
[21:57] <xamithan> Then select xorg at the xrdp login screen
[21:58] <CrazySam> because i'm a noob and don't knwo what the hell i'm talking about :)
[21:58] <CrazySam> it's a ubuntu server 16.04 if that helps
[21:59] <xamithan> Does it have a DE installed ?
[21:59] <CrazySam> i installed ubuntu-desktop
[21:59] <ckopn> what does mean "lock screen after blank for"?
[21:59] <xamithan> So Unity then
[22:00] <bprompt> CrazySam:    yes, it uses X11, so.. what are you trying to do?  are you at the shell prompt only?
[22:01] <CrazySam> trying to remote to a full fledged ubuntu desktop environment from a windows machine
[22:01] <ckopn> i need to download big file to my laptop, i afraid it will go to sleep in a minutes
[22:01] <CrazySam> bprompt: i can connect via ssh
[22:02] <CrazySam> if that's what you mean
[22:02] <CrazySam> so terminal session
[22:02] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:02] <CrazySam> xrdp is installed
[22:03] <CrazySam> sudo apt-get -y install xrdp
[22:03] <CrazySam> sudo ufw allow 3389/tcp
[22:03] <xamithan> I think with unity you need a vnc server installed
[22:03] <CrazySam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/xrdp
[22:04] <xamithan> That's 18.04,  you are on 16.04
[22:04] <CrazySam> ah so it is... oh well... i think ufw command helped anyway
[22:04] <CrazySam> i now get as far as "connected"
[22:05] <CrazySam> so all green and ok, but then it leave me with an OK button and then throws me out
[22:05] <CrazySam> i used "sesman-X11rdp" option at login
[22:06] <CrazySam> so install another desktop environment?
[22:07] <xamithan> You'll have to use something like tigervnc if you want to xrdp to unity.  I think most of the guides use mate like this one: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=8952
[22:11] <CrazySam> but why would you go from rdp to rdp to vnc?
[22:11] <CrazySam> there are vnc clients for windows you know
[22:11] <dark365hacker> hello
[22:12] <xamithan> I do not know why unity can not be used straight with xrdp without vnc.  Only that it isn't possible
[22:12] <dark365hacker> xamathan hi
[22:12] <haled> when will Trusty stop receiving updates (what day)?
[22:12] <xamithan> Most of the alternate desktops can be done without vnc+xrdp though
[22:13] <xamithan> April 30th
[22:13] <haled> xamithan: thanks
[22:14] <xamithan> 10 days away
[22:14] <xamithan> someone earlier said the last updates will roll out in like four or five days though
[22:17] <tomreyn>  2019-04-25
[22:18] <fueleh> anyone can help me get my desktop icons back? the settings are gone in gnome-tweak-tool even thou i have latest version..
[22:19] <tomreyn> haled: that's according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-March/000241.html
[22:20] <tomreyn> also https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/09/19/extended-security-maintenance-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[22:24] <nauta0> hi!
[22:24] <haled> tomreyn: thanks
[22:28] <fueleh> wallet713: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:29] <fueleh> i cannot install libssl.so.1.0.0
[22:30] <MrElendig> what are you trying to run that spits out that error?
[22:30] <fueleh> wallet713 :D a grincoin wallet
[22:31] <MrElendig> and how did you install that?
[22:33] <MrElendig> looks like it should support openssl 1.1 now, so if you built it yourself then update/rebuild it
[22:33] <fueleh> https://github.com/vault713/wallet713/blob/master/docs/setup.md
[22:33] <fueleh> hmm aha
[22:34] <MrElendig> this is why you should make debs instead of sudo make install btw :)
[22:34] <MrElendig> or worse curl | sh ....
[22:37] <fueleh> i try to build it! but its up to them to update to support new ssl?
[22:37] <MrElendig> it is up to you to update/rebuild anything you installed without using the ubuntu package system
[22:38] <fueleh> ok thx :)
[22:38] <MrElendig> any any software worth using have been updated to use openssl 1.1.x due to the important security improvements and new/better api etc
[22:38] <MrElendig> and 1.0 is eol "soon"
[22:38] <mattgphoto> Hello everyone! I have a weird thing I'm running into, and I feel like I've had this happen before, but on Ubuntu Server 18.02LTS I'm running into this: https://m.flixhaven.net/2GzWpFC
[22:38] <mattgphoto> When I put those settings in, the wizard just starts over.
[22:39] <mattgphoto> Sorry 18.04.2
[22:40] <MrElendig> 1.0.2 will only be supported out this year, 1.0.1 which sadly many people still use is already eol
[22:42] <mattgphoto> Is there some other formatting I should be using for the subnet? or a different IP in my range?
[22:53] <liban> hello
[22:55] <cuddylier> What is the best way to tell if a process I see in 'top' is running inside a container or natively on the host system?
[22:55] <qwebirc1559> Hello
[22:56] <texla> Had to reinstall Ubuntu 18.04.2 due to deleting the parition..Now it is slow booting it seems to linger at the logo with the red dots longer than normal any suggestions
[22:57] <LinuxNewbie> I have a question. :)
[22:57] <tomreyn> !ask | LinuxNewbie
[22:58] <LinuxNewbie> Can I install a Linux version on a USB Hard Drive then install to my pc ?
[23:00] <fueleh> cuddlier install htop then u see the path to what is running
[23:01] <LinuxNewbie> !patience
[23:02] <fueleh> the install on usb are not the same as installed on pc
[23:02] <fueleh> but yes try a linux usb live install then u run it from usb, but i dont think its the same u install on the pc later
[23:03] <tomreyn> cuddylier: lxc-utils provides "lxc-top", docker provides "docker container top CONTAINER"
[23:03] <cuddylier> tomreyn: Thanks but I'm using another container technology called 'singularity' which doesn't seem to provide such a function hence me asking about a more general way.
[23:03] <tomreyn> LinuxNewbie: you can install an ubuntu livecd/installer on a usb stick, and boot into that to install ubuntu somewhere.
[23:04] <fueleh> install htop i think it should be the path to singularity who runs the proccess?
[23:06] <cuddylier> fueleh: Singularity is like Docker in that it shows 'root' as the process owner.
[23:06] <fueleh> yeah but in htop you see the path to what is running it
[23:06] <fueleh> much better then top
[23:07] <LinuxNewbie> to clarify my question, I meant to install an installer on a usb drive, and from the usb drive install to pc.  Also what's the difference between usb stick and drive?
[23:09] <cuddylier> fueleh: Is it the 'Command' field you're referring to in htop?
[23:09] <cuddylier> If I run e.g. 'nano' inside the container then this just shows 'nano' as if it was running on the host.
[23:09] <tomreyn> texla: press escape, view the logs. if there are non, boot without "quiet" and "splash" but with "nosplash" and "verbose" kernel options
[23:13] <fastfresh> I have found a bug: Virtualbox VM icon on the panel is missing when you start a VM, but it appears after locking and unlocking screen.
[23:13] <fastfresh> Where should I report it: Virtualbox, Gnome or Ubuntu bugtracker? And if Ubuntu, where exatcly do I submit it?
[23:14] <fueleh> ok damn thought it would say that it was running inside singularity there
[23:15] <tomreyn> fastfresh: whose packages are you using?
[23:16] <mattgphoto> nevermind, looks like this is an issue with the live image.
[23:17] <angelcom> hello i use Integrated Intel HD Graphics 620. but how can i see Integrated Intel HD Graphics 620 on linux?
[23:17] <Apachez> Desktop Icons GNOME Shell Extension
[23:17] <angelcom> Apachez: me?
[23:17] <tomreyn> angelcom: what do you mean by "see"?
[23:17] <Apachez> angelcom: how do you mean?
[23:17] <Apachez> SuperTuxKart, the open-source racing game inspired by Mario Kart and themed around Linux/Tux, has reached its 1.0 version after being in development the past 12+ years.  :D
[23:18] <angelcom> my computer have Integrated Intel HD Graphics 620. how can i know that my computer have Integrated Intel HD Graphics 620 on linux?
[23:19] <tomreyn> angelcom: lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:19] <Apachez> lspci should tell you
[23:19] <angelcom> thanks tomreyn and Apachez :)
[23:19] <Apachez> along with      dmesg | grep -i intel
[23:19] <fastfresh> tomreyn: I'm using oracle package.
[23:19] <Apachez> but also    glxinfo | grep -i intel
[23:20] <tomreyn> fastfresh: then whom do you think you should report the bug with?
[23:20] <angelcom> ah thanks :)
[23:21] <tomreyn> fastfresh: oracle, i'd say. but you're right about asking, it could also be a side effect of an issue in ubuntu, and i can't actually rule this out.
[23:22] <fastfresh> tomreyn: The fact that bug goes away after screen lock makes me think it's related to ubuntu
[23:23] <tomreyn> fastfresh: so you start a vm, and the vm shows a bad icon, then you lock the screen, unlock the screen, and the vm icon is fine again?
[23:23] <fastfresh> tomreyn: exactly this
[23:23] <fastfresh> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3E9Lh0C9/Screenshot%20from%202019-04-21%2002-08-44.png
[23:23] <Emcy> anyone reported instability in nautilus/files, or maybe gnome itself
[23:23] <fastfresh> see screenshot
[23:24] <tomreyn> fastfresh: interesting, i got the same
[23:24] <tomreyn> fastfresh: i'd say start with    ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[23:25] <liban1> is ubuntu the most productivity based distro?
[23:25] <tomreyn> fastfresh: maybe ask in #vbox before you do so, socrates may immediately know what's wrong
[23:26] <tomreyn> liban1: that's not a support question, and thus not suited for this channel. there are others.
[23:26] <liban1> my bad
[23:30] <tomreyn> fastfresh: on a side note, restarting the gnome shell (meta-f2 + "r" + enter) has the same effect as locking the screen there.
[23:38] <MarkB2> A recent update/upgrade cycle caused the load of OpenJDK-11 into my copy of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.  That broke a pile of my Java code.
[23:39] <MarkB2> I'm trying to revert back to Java 8 .. uninstalled OpenJDK-11 but am now running into a problem with apt-get .
[23:40] <MarkB2> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer  reports oracle-java-8-installer is already the newest version (8u201-1-webupd8-1 .
[23:41] <MarkB2> There is no java anything in the system... so I tried a reinstall and was rewarded with Reinstallation of oracle-java8-installer is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[23:42] <MarkB2> So first its not here but apt-get thinks it is.  Then --reinstall says it can't be downloaded.
[23:42] <MarkB2> Uh... help?
[23:50] <MarkB2> Aha.  Thank you.  Zulu has the Right Stuff.
[23:51] <ledeni> MarkB2, run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and select java 8
[23:51] <MarkB2> I did try that.  It errored out saying there was no java 8 in the system.
[23:51] <MarkB2> But.
[23:52] <MarkB2> using the Zulu ppa and selecting Java 8 for the install got me to OpenJDK-8.
[23:52] <MarkB2> And my software runs.  <whew>
[23:54] <Pharaoh> Hi all! Just updated to 19.04 from 18.10 and Chrome/flash got messed up
[23:54] <Pharaoh> firefox works just fine but chrome blocks flash even it is allowed for the site
[23:56] <Gerowen> Do .desktop shortcuts no longer function in 19.04, I'm guessing since nautilus no longer handles the desktop?