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chealersomeone suggested I try Clementine (in replacement of Amarok on version 19.04). I see graphics which remind me of GTK+, and the filesystem browser is awful (never saw that, I cannot see directories). is something wrong here?00:06
chealerin the filesystem browser's quick access strip at the left I see a "461" directory for /home/chealer/snap/clementine/46100:07
chealerhum, Synaptic shows clementine not installed.00:08
starbladeicecan somebody help me? i'm trying to load a game (game runs perfectly fine in windows) but whenever it starts loading my system freezes up and i can't do anything. in iotop a whole bunch of processes show 99.99% IO when this happens. i'm new to Kubuntu so i don't know much.00:08
chealerwow, I went back to Discover and it offers me to install Clementine again. yet in the Installed section I see Clementine... is Discover that bad?00:09
chealer_I'm sorry, looks like I lost connection. I am back.00:13
Greenfrogwe dont care if your black or not00:15
Greenfrogjk00:16
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Greenfrogwell, i guess i'm in an ucomment cloud00:20
chealerI installed the real package with Synaptic. that works properly.00:32
Heavyarms__very good00:33
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LINKSWORD2Got an interesting question.... Is it possible to have a different workspace / wallpaper on the multiple desktops?06:06
diogenes_LINKSWORD2, since pclinuxos has it, i guess it's possible.06:08
LINKSWORD2Any way to do that on the current KDE/Plasma interface?06:10
diogenes_LINKSWORD2, have a look here but you doing it at your own risk: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232587506:16
krytarikUgh, that's worse a suggestion than what I have just found via a quick web search.06:19
krytarikLINKSWORD2: I came across these two so far: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=141878 , https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/a0tkdr/different_wallpaper_for_each_workspace/06:20
LINKSWORD2Interesting.06:22
LINKSWORD2I'll have to look into it.06:24
krytarikdiogenes_: I'd be curious which way PCLinuxOS manages to achieve that then.  I'd be willing to bet though not by switching out the entire default window manager. >_<06:38
krytarik(Can't tell from their website yet though.)06:39
diogenes_krytarik, no clue but i saw they had it set up.06:40
krytarikdiogenes_: https://www.zdnet.com/article/recreating-the-pclinuxos-full-monty-with-kde-plasma-activities/ - apparently that's similarly a thing of the past though.06:46
krytarikSo here the author picks the built-in alternative.06:46
diogenes_i see.06:48
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IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> If you want different wallpapers for each desktop maybe you should contact Nate Graham or anyone else from the KDE Visual Design Group so at least they know it10:27
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> Does the Kubuntu desktop give you a notification for when the the 19.04 upgrader is ready? Do I remember it happening for 18.10 or am I imagining it?11:46
BluesKajHiyas all11:49
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> @Anarchotaoist, @acheronuk said that it does not. But I suggested him that it may be possible in the future because KDE devs made some fixes regarding that (maybe it could be done through PackageKit)12:43
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> @jorgetech_spacebiker, ok, thanks. So, is the upgrader from 18.10 to 19.04 ready to go yet?12:44
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> @Anarchotaoist, It is ready. In kubuntu.org you can see how to upgrade in the latest news announcement12:45
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> Of course check if your PPAs support Disco if you use any12:45
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> If they don't just wait some weeks or upgrade now and keep that in mind12:46
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Alexfrenchhello all12:48
Alexfrenchthis upgrade is only possible from 18.10 to 19.0412:48
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IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> That's correct Alexfrench, if you use LTS first upgrade to 18.1012:49
Alexfrenchyes that's i am in this case12:50
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> First do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CosmicUpgrades/Kubuntu12:52
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> @jorgetech_spacebiker, Great! Thanks. nb I thought the new upgrade process had sorted out the ppa situation! ?? Should I just uncheck them?12:53
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> @Anarchotaoist, They are disabled automatically. I think the PPA situation is going to be improved in a future release but not sure when12:53
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> @jorgetech_spacebiker, I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiscoUpgrades/Kubuntu12:54
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> @jorgetech_spacebiker, Cool12:54
Alexfrenchgreat thanks12:54
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> @Anarchotaoist, The other one was for Alex that has to upgrade from LTS12:54
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> oh, sorry12:54
Alexfrenchso you mean after upgrade to 18.10 i'll have to do the same for 19.04 ?12:55
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> And Alex, after upgrading to Cosmic do the Disco upgrade procedure. Also keep in mind PPAs12:55
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> Yes12:55
Alexfrenchis it correct ?12:55
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> 18.04>18.10>19.0412:56
Alexfrenchok12:56
Alexfrenchhow i do to add a ppa for official releases ?12:56
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> Can you describe in more detail, please?12:57
Alexfrenchwho ? me ?12:57
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> Yes12:57
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> @Alexfrench, This? In Plasma Discover, Under 'Settings', click the top right ≡ menu and select 'Software Sources' menu item; or … in Konsole run … sudo software-properties-qt … Under the Updates tab, set 'Normal Releases' in the Release Upgrade section.12:58
Alexfrenchok i note this13:00
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> PPAs are only for third party software not found in Ubuntu repos13:00
BluesKajPPAs should be removed from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ before upgrading the OS13:03
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> BluesKaj that's not necessary since the Ubuntu upgrader takes care of that for you13:03
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> I already upgraded several times with PPAs enabled13:04
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> You just have to reenable them when they are available13:04
BluesKajjorgetech_spacebiker, i don't take chances with ppas , they can break your system13:04
BluesKajif you don't need them , remove them13:05
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> Depends on which ones you use. But you can also disable them just in case13:05
KorroraBlue,Blue thank God you are here !13:05
Korrorasorry jey guys :)13:06
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> I no longuer need Aegisub PPA for example since it is on repos now13:06
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> longer*13:06
BluesKajhi Korrora13:07
Korrorahii,how are you?13:07
BluesKajok here , and you?13:08
Korrorafinally have an ssd with multiboot :D and ready to beg you to help me about these background kde stuff thing :D13:09
BluesKajwhat kde background stuff again, like kmail, kontact akonadi-server etc?13:12
Korrorai dont know can you tell me all useless stuff that i can disable,here some examples how i use OS in daily basis and mostly: İ firefox or opera to watch videos,movies etc,skype minmized all time and nothing else really :D13:14
Korroraand libre writer time to time,idk if this information is useful13:15
BluesKajKorrora, how much RAM and which cpu ?13:15
Korroramy laptop has i5-4210u cpu with intel hd graphics and 4gb of ram,and 1gb swap file13:16
BluesKajKorrora, then you probly don't need to remove anything aslong as you don't have too many apps open at the same time when using graphical apps like skype or watching movies13:17
BluesKajor youtube etc13:18
Korrorafor example now i have firefox 1 tab open with a vimeo video,skype minimised and libreoffice writer document,and htop shows 2.40gb memory usage with some swap but kysguard says 2.0gb13:18
Korrorawhen i open few tabs on firefox it starts to struggle13:18
Alexfrenchthis even on windows it does firefox is hungry i think13:20
BluesKajthat's the problem then, too many graphical apps open simultaneously13:21
Korrorathe strange thing aabout windows 10 is i open lots of tabs in firefox but it handles well not struggle mostly,but in linux it starts to struggle way quicker and easier13:21
BluesKajincreasing your RAM to 8GB would be the best solution, if that's possible13:22
Korroraalthough i just realized yesterday i opened task manager and windows was eating 2.5gb ram with firefox two tabs and nothing else,buty strangely it still feels fresh idk how13:22
Korrorai just kicked hdd and grabbed an ssd, a ram upgrade is not possible for now unfortunately :(13:23
BluesKajwell then judicious use of grapgical apps is the recommended method, removingdefault apps won't help much unless you have file search like baloo running daemons13:25
Korrora8gb ram was more expensive than my ssd when i checked last time,idk its funny or sad : D13:25
Korrorabaloo_shall i disable it?13:25
BluesKajif you don't use a daemon you can diable it in system settings>startup&shutdown>background services>startup services13:28
BluesKaj*disable13:29
Korroraidk if it breaks the system to disabling any ofthem because im a huge newbe on kde :D ican write what i have under that list if you want13:31
Korrorasearch folder updater?is it important?13:32
BluesKajit takes some experimentation , you can always re-enable if things don't run correctly13:32
Korrorai will try baloo then :D13:34
Korrora2.45 to 2.42 :/ damn you expensive country  :D13:35
Korrorathank you Blue like you said i will make some experiments on them then :)13:35
BluesKajI never used folder updater13:35
Korrora2.29 after search folder updater killed :D yay!13:36
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> From my own experience Kubuntu can run very good even on Core 2 Duo setups with GMA graphics. Celerons (even recent ones) are worse but that's Intel's fault13:37
Korroramy kde experince is also good after gnome definitely but because of limited hardware i just cant feel snappy :/13:39
BluesKajcelerons are not linux friendly13:39
BluesKajKorrora, baloo is in system settings>workspace>search13:43
Korrorai disabled all search stuff in there okay13:45
Korrorabtw why htop and kysguard show different numbers about ram usage?which one is reliable?13:46
BluesKajnot sure why that is, never really used htop much , ksysguard is my reference mostly13:48
IrcsomeBot<jorgetech_spacebiker> BluesKaj: Celerons are not user friendly13:49
BluesKajlinux friendly13:49
BluesKajnot13:49
Korrorais m3-7Y30 ?13:50
BluesKajjorgetech_spacebiker, that's been my experience13:51
BluesKajno Korrora you have an i5 , that's a decent cpu in general13:52
Korrorai just have an option if i sell this an buy a m3 laptop with soldered 8gbram :D i should ask :)13:55
BluesKajKorrora, do you have an extra slot for RAM on yoiur laptop?13:55
Alexfrenchit sad a few laptop are built upgradables13:56
Alexfrencheven if there are changes a couple of years13:57
Alexfrenchmine hp dv7 died a few weeks ago and all was fixed13:58
Alexfrenchbut it was a 10 years laptop old13:58
Korrorayes i do have 2 slots Blue13:59
BluesKajKorrora, then you could buy a compataible 4GB RAM module to add to your laptop, that would be a cheaper option than buying 8GB14:12
Korrora4gb, i will check okay14:26
Korrorahow can i check my ram specs on kde? like So-dimm ddr3l or ddr3 etc?14:29
BluesKajyes, check your laptop specs for the correct RAM module14:31
phillhey guys, I develop in python wiht Pyqt5. I installed kubuntu 18.10 the other day, but it seems like QFileDialog isnt working. https://bin.snyman.info/mmmbc35914:32
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @Anarchotaoist, Imagining it.14:33
Korroradmidecode  says sodim ddr3 1600 samsung, found it :D14:34
Korroraso same brand wouldnt make a trouble14:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> to check memory  run this: sudo lshw | grep -A 20 memory:114:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> or sudo lshw | grep -A 20 memory:014:36
Korrorai did thank you :)14:37
Korroraam i talking to a bot or is it a human being? damn im so newbie to everything :D14:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am using telegram with a bridge14:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> the bride is referenced by the IRC bot (<ircsomebot>) on traditional IRC clients.14:40
phillseems it works with the pyqt5 installed with apt, but not in a venv with pip14:43
Korroraohh sorry Darin and thank you :D and Blue i owe you a HUGE thank you :)14:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @phill, What do you mean by "venv",  your posted code runs fine from a jupyter notebook.14:47
phillIrcsomeBot: python virtual environment.14:48
Korrorasee you all guys later, iwish you all have a nice day14:48
BluesKajKorrora, same to you :-)14:58
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osxyerhi all17:19
osxyerim new to kubuntgu17:19
IrcsomeBot<carbonzero> @osxyer welcome!17:39
DarkSmokeHello18:35
DarkSmokeI'm trying to use the middle mouse button click as a shortcut to activate the desktop cube, but for some reason it's not accepted(nothing happens when I try to set it as a shortcut).  The middle mouse button does work for other things like scrolling and copy/paste.18:36
DarkSmokeIs there any way/possibility to set it so? I remember in the past I used to use it, don't know if it was with KDE's cube or Compiz though..18:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> DarkSmoke, middle click cube was a compiz feature.  I too used to use the feature with compiz, but unfortuneaately it currently not possible in kde.18:47
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DarkSmokeIrcsomeBot: thank you and sorry for the later reply. Any suggestions of a comfortable shortcut for activating the cube? :)22:06
janisruncshow to install wifi driver for broadcom wifi adapter?22:28
Greenfrogwhat distro and version are you using?22:30
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janisruncslatest kubuntu 64bit22:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> DarkSmoke, since I am right handed use a right handed mouse, I recommend a single left handed key combo. Using something with meta and  C key allows for Mnemonic reference   Since I already use meta+c for compositing, I recommend something like ctrl-meta-c .....22:37
janisruncsdisco dingo 19.0422:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> correct latest Kubuntu is 64bit only...22:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> To install Broadcom wireless drivers , you will probably need LAN connection (unless you us another PC to download the packages).  Refernce this site for instructions: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers22:45
janisruncsalredy red this page but does not work22:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Did Kubuntu auto install any drivers? I have seen the hw detetction instal the wrong driver and thus requiring a purge and installation of the correct driver.22:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Also, is your BIOS in UEFI mode?  You man need to switch to legacy. Fighting  UEFI and driver install is not any fun.22:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @DarkSmoke, I forgot to mention, you can configure desktop switching by scrolling the middle mouse over an open desktop area.  Not quite the same as middle click swtich mode, but similar.  Right click on desktop, Configure Desktop, Mouse action. Set Vertical scroll to Switch Desktop.23:07

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