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texlatomreyn, found an entry quiet splash in kernel log and also in /etc/default/grub searched all logs00:02
PharaohAny idea on 19.04 chrome/flash blocked?00:02
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MarkB2Oh for... <sigh>  Ledani, it looked like it would work... but now the system is reporting the wrong version of java is installed.00:13
MarkB2I did run the alternatives script and it says it found the version of java installed... but another package says, "Sorry, can't find oracle java".  Grrrr.00:14
dont-panicwhere would I find libsdl1.2.so.0 or whatever on my 18.04 install?00:26
dont-panicor if anyone knows how to get dwarf fortress with tilesets working, that would be awesome.  I'm losing my mind over this00:27
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Guest46438How to install xorg and fluxbox ? I used to use 'sudo apt install xorg fluxbox' after base system was installed(18.04). But now i use 19.04. That command will install gnome.00:55
PharaohAny idea on 19.04 chrome/flash blocked?01:07
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PharaohAny idea on ubuntu 19.04 desktop shortcuts?01:10
MarkB2Argh.  Found my problem.  The last update and upgrade cycle installed openjdk-11 ... but seems to have missed updating /etc/profile.d/jdk.sh and /etc/profile.d/jdk.csh .01:26
angelcomlspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999  <---- this command open my 9999 port to termbin.com?01:27
MarkB2So while Openjdk-11 is installed, environment variables are referring to a place that doesn't exist.01:27
angelcomhelp me01:27
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atheodohi, if i want to install evolution on my ubuntu, do I just do an apt-get install evolution, after I check for the latest updates?01:39
tatertotsPharaoh: did you figure it out?...01:39
Pharaoh@tatertots - not yet... It works for firefox (npapi) and not for chrome (ppapi)01:40
tatertotsPharaoh: close chrome01:40
johnjayhi, the official requirements for ubuntu 18.04/19.04 are for 2Ghz or better and 2GB of ram or better01:41
Pharaoh@tatertots.. done01:41
atheodoby the way ubuntu never installed on my dell laptop no matter what01:41
tatertotsPharaoh: in terminal>  google-chrome --disable-extensions01:41
atheodoahem, I was able to install fedora without any issues though :-)01:41
johnjayis that because of the desktop? can I use xfce4 and make do with less? i want to install on an older PC with just 1GB of ram01:41
tatertotsPharaoh: test the same sites you were testing prior01:41
tatertotsPharaoh: report results, not opinion of result just result01:42
Pharaoh@tatertots.. that didn't help much01:42
tatertotsPharaoh: what does this say about your configuration?  https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html01:44
stevendalejohnjay Hey01:44
stevendaleYes it's desktop specific01:44
Pharaoh@tatertots - same as earlier. I enable flash, it brings up the page asking to right click to enable flash. when i try to "run f;lash this time" nothing happens01:44
stevendaleThough I wouldn't recommend anything Ubuntu on 2 GB01:44
stevendaleGo for Debian01:44
johnjayi thought about downloading ubuntu server and just installing lxde or xfce4 too. since my bandwidth is alost limited01:44
johnjayare there considerations besides the desktop environment?01:45
stevendalejohnjay Don't use server for that01:45
stevendaleUse mini.iso01:45
tatertotsPharaoh: it says it's installed but disabled correct? yes or screen shot to imgur.com01:45
Pharaoh@tatertots Your Flash Version01:45
PharaohFlash Player disabled01:45
tatertots"pre installed" is the verbatim terminology used on https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html01:46
tatertotsif you are not seeing that then i'm going to pass you to someone else01:46
johnjaystevendale: i don't see mini anywhere on the download page?01:47
stevendalejohnjay https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:47
stevendaleBecause it's not01:47
johnjaybut to my earlier question01:47
johnjayis there some other concern than the DE that makes it better to use a different distro in your mind?01:48
johnjaythe kernel mem size?01:48
stevendalejohnjay Generally the Linux kernel is different depending on the distribution01:48
stevendaleThey compile different modules01:49
Pharaoh@tatertots - exactly as you said. So, Yes!01:49
OerHeksjohnjay, polling other distro is offtopic, there is a flavor wiki page01:52
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours01:52
johnjayOerHeks: i'm just asking for clarification. does ubuntu have any advantages or disadvantages for an old pc with less ram01:53
OerHeksjohnjay, no, but i like to see a benchmark :-)01:53
donofrioin ubuntu I need the firefox sync config info what file(s) would I scp to a new ubuntu install?01:54
atheodojohnjay you still here?02:00
iCherryAlright so uhh02:05
iCherryupdating to 19.04 via update-manager02:05
iCherrythe window "Do you want to start the upgrade" is taller than my monitor02:06
iCherryso i cant press the ok button, and its not a resizable window either02:06
iCherryah, managed via rmb and move02:07
OerHeksbest problems fixes themselves02:07
atheodo19.04 is a non lts release right?02:07
atheodoi want to stay on the lts, so hopefully the updater won't update me02:09
jcottonit won't02:10
jcottonyou can tell it to look for non-lts, but it doesn't by default02:10
OerHeksleave upgrades settings LTS > LTS02:11
timdotrbEvening, all. I'm having an issue changing the MySQL data directory. We had to add additional storage to our server, and that additional storage is mounted under /mnt. I've migrated all of the data to the new drive, and updated the MySQL config, but when I attempt to start MySQL - I get a permissions error. I first tried having permissions set to 700 with mysql:mysql as the owner, but that didn't work. I have since tried going as far as making the entir02:22
timdotrbe /mnt directory 777, but I'm still getting a permissions error?02:22
timdotrbWe're running Ubuntu 18.04 and MySQL 5.7.2502:24
ryuotimdotrb: i'm not an expert on such an advanced operation, but try here: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/multiple-data-directories.html02:33
ryuoit sounds like it may require modifications to the service file.02:34
timdotrbryuo, thanks, but no dice :( still getting permissions errors02:47
{xmb}hello kind pro ubuntu folks, please in which package do i find /etc/rc.local running02:56
Bashing-om{xmb}: Can you be nore specific: " ls -al /etc/rc.local >> ls: cannot access '/etc/rc.local': No such file or directory" .02:59
{xmb}yeah i only know debian and also not which package, but one contains it and makes it work03:00
{xmb}i dunno if i make a new /etc/rc.local and reboot if that works without that package, but i currently cant try03:01
{xmb} /etc/rc.local is old way of running like #!/bin/bash at startup03:01
{xmb}!apt-file /etc/rc.local03:02
sebsebsebwhat about it ?03:02
{xmb}i need to know in which package i can find it03:02
jcottondpkg -L can do that for installed ones iirc03:03
sebsebsebI think a few programs have a rc local, looks familur, not sure quite  though03:03
{xmb}its not about installed, in total, sec, gotta check if ubuntu got apt-file03:03
sebsebseboh right ok03:04
{xmb}ok theres apt-file ill search on it03:06
{xmb}only fai-doc has it, from apt-cache show its something like this, but i thought it'd say sysvutils or something03:08
{xmb}it has ../examples/rc.local/<two files>03:08
{xmb}not sure, u dunno also, ah well thanks you kindly folks03:08
analogicalwhen using rsync how do I type names of source folders when the name of a source folder contain spaces and & symbols?03:13
{xmb}u quote em in ' or " or use \ \03:14
{xmb}a\ file\ is03:14
{xmb}you can, put em in a bash array, arr=( *files* ); then access via "${arr[@]}"03:14
{xmb}id use tab completition03:15
{xmb}rsync <opts> <beginning_of_filename><tab> <next-one>03:15
analogicalxMopx, I think you misunderstood me I'm was talking about folder names not file names03:22
{xmb}thats all the same03:22
xMopxi heard u loud and clear analogical03:23
xMopxfite me irl03:23
analogicalthe source is a remote server via ssh03:23
{xmb}on the shell, eg bash, a space can be escaped by \, or inside 'a file' quotes or "a file" quotes, and tab completition works best instead of typing out long senseless <whatever>names03:23
analogicalI can't use tab completion cuz I'm not connected until I run the command03:25
{xmb}ok im sorry, so if they dont contain ' quote em in '03:25
{xmb}if they contain ' you can $'a filename \'with quotes inside\''03:25
{xmb}"quotes are also supported"03:25
analogicalin english please03:26
{xmb}tell me an example filename03:26
{xmb}scp user@host:'a file with spaces' .03:28
analogicalThe Big House [random] Is Full of People & Furniture03:29
{xmb}'The Big House [random] Is Full of People & Furniture'03:29
{xmb}"The Big House [random] Is Full of People & Furniture"03:29
analogicalI already tried that but it didn't work03:29
{xmb}The\ Big\ House\ \[random\]\ Is\ Full\ of\ People\ \&\ Furniture03:29
{xmb}your rsync cmdline may be faulty03:30
{xmb}if u dont care for pub paste it for debug03:30
{xmb}scp -r user@host:'The Big House [random] Is Full of People & Furniture' /tmp/03:30
{xmb}if, you type this raw in rsync or scp, it will assume /home/<user>/<this_file>03:30
{xmb}so it may be in somewhere else u need to type that path too03:31
kinghatdrive 1 has os on it, can i add another os to drive 2 and have it put grub onto drive 1 and then erase drive 2 after?03:32
{xmb}erase drive 2 after ?03:33
{xmb}can u rephrase with other words03:33
kinghati just want to fix grub on drive 1. havent been able to do it.03:34
{xmb}whats wrong with it, what os has it03:34
kinghatlet me start over.03:35
{xmb}yes plz03:35
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{xmb}tell whats wrong with grub ob d103:38
kinghatdrive 1 has os 1, i installed another drive, drive 2 with os 2. i never used drive 1/os 1 anymore so i wiped it. now there wasnt really grub for drive 2/os 2. i used live cd for boot-repair which only got me to where i had a grub shell and now gui. so i had to manually get to desktop. somehow after trying tons of different things ive got it to wher03:39
kinghate there is no grub at all but i just boot directly to system. though the screen flashes a custom background i set with grub customizer before hitting the os loading screen.03:39
{xmb}try this03:40
kinghatwas asking if i could install an os onto drive 1 since its wiped and have it put grub onto drive 2 w/o jacking up that os and then i can wipe drive 1 again.03:40
{xmb}u can go to livecd, then mount --bind /sys and /dev and others to root of drive2/os203:40
{xmb}then chroot into it, and run grub-install to install everywhere03:40
{xmb}can you boot it without disconnecting from irc ?03:41
kinghati have cloud irc so i can access through my phone03:42
{xmb}okay well i can help u succeed there03:43
{xmb}can u also copypaste03:43
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{xmb}so in short its 1) boot livecd 2) mount os2 root to an unused folder, like mkdir /t; mount /dev/sdb1 /t; then a couple of mount --bind; then chroot /t; then (all as root) grub-install command03:45
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{xmb}alike grub-install --efi-directory=/efi /dev/sd{ab}03:45
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kinghatprobably not from phone to pc terminal03:45
{xmb}ok well i can still guide u some03:45
kinghati should prolly use the same live cd as version im on eh?03:50
{xmb}how u meaen, ure booted with livecd on the computer already ?03:50
kinghati have the live cd but its 19 and im on 18.0403:50
kinghatdoes that matter?03:51
kinghati thought i read somewhere that you should use a grub of the same version03:51
{xmb}not much03:51
{xmb}so u're booted with livecd and irc'ing here ?03:51
crankenstiengday im tying to ressolve this issue can anyone help  ressolve this See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.03:51
{xmb}i can copypaste u the commands u need03:51
kinghatno im still on drive 2 os03:51
{xmb}so u can boot, to drive2 at least03:52
{xmb}you can as root simply run grub-install and it installs it03:52
{xmb}you just need some params03:52
kinghatya i could boot to the os by grub commands and now ive got it so it boots right into the os but there is no grub gui.03:53
Bashing-om!details | crankenstien03:53
ubottucrankenstien: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.03:53
{xmb}ok well... do u have a update-grub command03:53
kinghatya that didnt work03:54
{xmb}but it recognized drive2 ?03:54
{xmb}do you have an efi directory ? /efi mostly03:54
kinghatim on the drive/os, the only os i currently have. which doesnt have grub boot gui for some reason.03:54
{xmb}it probably doesnt read its configs | tries somewhere else03:55
{xmb}are your hds /dev/sd[ab]03:55
crankenstienubuntu 19.04 will not up date  ubuntu disco-security InRelease   im a noob to linux03:56
{xmb}crankenstien apt-get update03:56
{xmb}and see if u have that entry in /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
kinghat{xmb}: https://hasteb.in/susiwepo.coffeescript03:57
crankenstieni have tried this list sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*03:57
crankenstiensudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*03:57
crankenstiensudo apt-get update03:57
crankenstienand this 1 sudo apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated03:58
crankenstienand still wont allow03:58
a_p3rson|Dcrankenstien: are you getting an error of some kind?03:58
crankenstienyes See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.03:58
crankenstien Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.03:59
{xmb}kinghat try this command as root; grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sda /dev/sdb03:59
{xmb}what is the line looking like crankenstien03:59
a_p3rson|Dcrankenstien: can you paste the full output of the command in to something like https://hasteb.in ?03:59
kinghatthe /dev/sda is the drive 1 that was wiped, there isnt anything there.04:00
crankenstienE: The repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu disco Release' does not have a Release file.04:00
crankenstienN: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.04:00
crankenstienN: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.04:00
{xmb}crankenstien see wine docs for the right entry04:00
{xmb}kinghat it doesnt matter, grub-install is safe04:00
{xmb}and if it doesnt still boot kinghat we have to do this chroot and mount --bind thing04:01
{xmb}if u just run it via livecd, the update-grub, it doesnt .. do much.., uneed to be chrooted into your system at least04:01
a_p3rson|Dcrankenstien: you're missing a trailing slash on that line, iirc04:01
a_p3rson|Dalso, did you do the steps for adding the key to your apt keychain?04:02
kinghat{xmb}: https://hasteb.in/usivukim.sql04:02
{xmb}ah and crankenstien the 'Release' is a meta file, there is no tree 'Release' in most apt's04:02
{xmb}ok run it twice, once for sda once for sdb04:03
{xmb}and if that doesnt work again with chroot and and.. :)04:03
jophishHi all04:04
kinghatok rebooting04:04
{xmb}*hopes* for you04:04
analogical{xmb}, the solution was to use '".........."'04:06
{xmb}aha, beware of stuff that contains quotes inside, it might break04:07
kinghatwould you look at that! https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/4cc03fc42eb49fa6/15558196009223620207068986582851.jpg04:07
{xmb}is that better looking than before?04:07
kinghatit's the grub gui so yes04:07
{xmb}neon is your sdb ?04:08
{xmb}cool it has .efi entries =p04:08
{xmb}ok cheers for you04:08
kinghatbut how do I get it so I can wipe drive one and still get the grub gui04:08
{xmb}im not sure, as it reads grub.cfg04:09
{xmb}i suggest you 1. boot into neon and then update-grub as root to update grub.cfg boot entry04:09
{xmb}if you wipe the second os too, maybe it will be that screen, maybe not04:09
{xmb}you can copy grub directory to efi directory, and if it doesnt work load this menu via cmdline04:10
{xmb}but iif u wipe os2 u have no os anymore04:10
kinghat{xmb}: ok here are what my entries look like: https://hasteb.in/avamofoc.yaml04:11
{xmb}i dunno this efi tool04:12
{xmb}you can do this:04:13
kinghati think it was just: grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi this part that made it work. not installing it to the bare drive 104:13
{xmb}cd /boot/efi04:13
{xmb}find -name '*grub*'04:13
{xmb}yeah first comes efi then comes mbr04:13
kinghatfunny that 2 of the entries worked and 1 didnt. i think it was the ubuntu one that didnt. 1*04:14
{xmb}you can probably boot into compatibility mode in bios then the mbrs would boot, maybe..04:14
kinghatthere isnt even anything on the drive one so not sure it didnt anything anyways.04:15
{xmb}anyone know of a change of ubuntu vs debian that makes debian have no matter what a file_open limit but ubuntu doesnt ?04:16
{xmb}see entry in /boot/efi04:16
{xmb}they are old entries still on partition efi04:16
kinghatthere are no files on drive 104:16
{xmb} /boot/efi dude04:16
{xmb}no matter what04:16
{xmb}you can place windows.efi and it will display that entry ( booti32.efi )04:17
kinghati have /boot/efi on drive 2, which im currently on. when we also installed grub to /dev/sda as well it doesnt look like it did anything.04:19
{xmb}its a safety install04:20
jcb2016anyone running mate desktop?04:20
kinghati dont know what that means04:20
Randunesup all?..I was just trying to install a game via wine but then I noticed that the wine-mono and wine-gecko packages don't exist...is that something that someone is working on?..or will they ever been in the repos again?04:20
{xmb}i think wine can download dem, not sure, always worked without dem04:21
{xmb}check in winesettings or whatever that was called04:21
Bashing-om!wine | Randune Better asked in ->04:22
ubottuRandune Better asked in ->: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu04:22
{xmb}go ask in #winehq indeed04:22
jcb2016just installed ubuntu and my battery is dying really fast. are there some good recommendation like powertop and other things to help control the battery?04:29
{xmb}make display less bright, check in settings disable bluetooth and nfs and such, ps aux in console and see useless big apps to stop|kill04:30
sebsebsebjcb2016: and batteris usaully work well with Linux, but can be exceptions to that04:30
{xmb}there may be a laptop-tools package or similiar named for lowering power usage04:31
kinghatthats awesome this works now, {xmb}. thanks, i spent like 5+ hours today trying to figure it out.04:31
kinghatearlier i mean04:31
{xmb}cheers, peace04:31
kinghati think it was this flag: --efi-directory=/boot/efi that did it04:32
kinghatodd that all those efi boot entries work.04:32
{xmb}they are bootloader alike entries, no guiarantee they boot an empty partition04:33
kinghatnot sure what you mean but all of these get the grub gui: https://hasteb.in/avamofoc.yaml04:36
{xmb}ok well good for you, im not so familiar with such, peace :)04:40
kinghatthanks again!04:41
{xmb}ubuntu folks, what is the general apt repo without like 'bionic' that updates04:44
sebsebsebwhat do you mean ?04:44
{xmb}bionic is 18 right ?04:45
ubottuUbuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) is the 28th release of Ubuntu and the current LTS release. Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes04:45
{xmb}i mean one that doesnt specify version, just all newest software04:45
sebsebsebthats not how it works04:45
sebsebsebor not quite04:45
sebsebsebeach version gets its own repos04:45
{xmb}well i got this example by debian04:45
{xmb}instead of specifying names like 'potatoe' or 'stretch' i specify stable/testing/unstable and experimental04:46
sebsebseband not just Ubuntu, that will be other distros with repos too, each version has it's own repos04:46
sebsebsebDebian is a little differnet04:46
{xmb}hm k04:46
{xmb}ill read up tomorrow on ubuntu sources to update04:46
sebsebsebsince it doesn't have versions like Ubuntu does and most other distros as well04:46
sebsebsebinstead it has like channels or whatever they are acutsally called04:46
sebsebsebstable is yep stable04:46
sebsebsebtesting becomes stable eventually04:46
{xmb}distribution tree's04:46
sebsebsebunstable is basically experimental new stuff04:47
{xmb}stretch would be version 9 or 10 currently04:47
{xmb}i run all 4 tree's since 200204:47
{xmb}im new to ubuntu, only got remote access04:47
sebsebsebfor newer software in Ubunty you could use ppa's or snaps but  you probably don't need newer software most of the time04:47
{xmb}i need, i cannot live without dem04:47
sebsebseband the normal repos only tend to get security or bug fixes once a version is out be that the Long Term Support release or a stable version04:48
sebsebsebwhat's dem ?04:48
sebsebsebwhat !04:48
{xmb}new versions04:48
sebsebsebno you don't need new versions most of the time04:48
sebsebsebthat's what I am saying04:48
sebsebsebhi IamBorg04:48
{xmb}i say the reverse04:48
sebsebsebunless you got specfiic reason04:48
sebsebsebprograms such as ?04:48
Bashing-om!latest | {xmb}04:48
ubottu{xmb}: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:48
{xmb}i am pro coder, new kernel, new libc, bash 5.+, gawk 5+04:48
sebsebsebindeed to Bashing-om and the bot factoid04:49
{xmb}this is normal propaganda... like...04:49
IamBorgDoes znc require different setup to connect in irc clients (know this is not the right channel, but I guess some of you use znc)04:49
sebsebsebmaybe for some of that depending on what you are coding etc, but even then, I think a slihgtly older version of those programs would be ok most of the time04:49
{xmb}debians experimental is experimental __do_not_use__ this is bullshit fully not true04:49
{xmb}well i halfway agree seb04:49
sebsebsebdebian experimental is like running alpha software basically04:50
{xmb}however i cannot live with overoutdated versions like 4.15 kernel or something04:50
{xmb}well it still has some old ware on it04:50
{xmb}the debian experimental04:50
{xmb}however i like daily get updates04:50
sebsebsebyou can update some things yourself in Ubuntu  via ppa's or more recently  snaps maybe even but yeah04:50
{xmb}i run it all since 2002, on private and on servers, all good04:50
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:50
ubottuSnaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io04:50
{xmb}i dunno snap i like only os-mainline updates04:50
NorthwestVegan19.04 is running kernel 5.0.004:51
{xmb}they are configured together, snap would be 'another tree'04:51
NorthwestVeganpretty exciting04:51
{xmb}yeah vgg04:51
{xmb}Linux freely 5.1.0-rc3-next-20190405-9 #1 SMP Sun Apr 7 11:22:26 CEST 2019 x86_64 GNU/Linux04:51
sebsebsebactsually yeah that's a good point NorthwestVegan04:51
sebsebseb19.04 is on a pretty recent kernel04:51
saunaHi everyone. I haven't dont networking for a while, but I need to make my pc a router for another computer behind a switch. Any good tutorials ?04:51
sebsebsebbionic is the 18.04 long term support04:51
sebsebsebyes that's on older stuff that's long term support04:51
{xmb}tauna, search for 'iptables nat examples' on google04:52
saunaI know how to do it in debian, but this network manager is killing me, without network manager, I don't know how to setup wifi...04:52
sebsebsebxmb if you want newer stuff don't run the LTS04:52
{xmb}will do so thanks04:52
sebsebsebthat's what standard releases are for such as 19.0404:52
{xmb}[they are preinstalled by others] ill update them easily later when i read up on all the tree's04:52
sebsebsebbut those only get supported nine months04:52
{xmb}i never can do take any support they offer04:52
{xmb}im pro bash and gawk coder, they aint better or reply with code or something04:52
{xmb}so only newest versions == best support04:52
sebsebsebwhich verison are you on xmb ?04:53
sebsebsebof ubuntu04:53
sebsebsebyes thats' what I thought that's the long term support04:53
sebsebsebthat's about a year old now04:53
sebsebsebso yep the packages are old04:53
{xmb}yeah with few updates sometimes i guess04:53
{xmb}ill dist-upgrade to 19+ easily when i read up04:54
sebsebsebupgrade to 19.04  and you get Linux kernel 5.0 and so on04:54
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade04:54
Ben64you can get newer kernels on LTS04:54
sebsebsebbut non  long tem support releases only get supported about 9 months04:54
{xmb}i no want lts04:54
sebsebsebBen64:  he wnats more than just a new kernel see above04:54
Ben64just saying04:54
benharrirmadison is a great tool to see package version across package suites04:54
{xmb}so about the upgrade urls, im too tired its 7 am here worked all day and night04:54
sebsebsebyeah wehre you from xmb?04:55
{xmb}i am from bulgaria, but living in swiss04:55
sebsebsebyeah an hoour behind you04:55
sebsebsebI am getting a bit tired or something too, but still want to pop into an ear by shop before I sleep :D04:55
sebsebsebthat opens again soon, or should do04:55
{xmb}nice one04:55
benharrii lived in .ch for a semester of undergrad :)04:55
{xmb}i idont like .ch04:55
{xmb}they are ugly enemies there04:56
sebsebseball day and night how long you been awake :D04:56
{xmb}non open friendly enemish cold ppl04:56
{xmb}since 1 pm last day04:56
sebsebsebyeahsomething similar here heh heh04:56
mike802why's it still baby speaking04:56
sazawalHello. I want to do a fresh installation of Ubuntu 19.04 on my laptop running Ubuntu 16.04. Right now I have a separate partition for /home which has around 700 GB of data. If during the installation, I choose manual mode of partitioning and assign old-/home partition as the new-/home without formatting, my 700 GB of data would be safe, is that correct? Unfortunately, I don't have any other storage to back the huge data.05:00
Pharaohquite a strange problem - re-installed Chrome but flash does not work still05:00
{xmb}i suggest you apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade to it05:00
sebsebsebsazawal: yes should be able to keep the home there with the data05:00
{xmb}include the right lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and its ready to go05:01
sebsebsebsazawal: what you put sounds good, but you got to maek sure you don't put format on the installer or in gparted, when assinging it as /home05:01
sebsebsebotherwise bye bye data05:01
{xmb}yeah there is usually a 'format or not' option05:01
{xmb}u will have leftover binaries and stuff05:02
{xmb}..suggest dist-upgrade..05:02
mike802why does dist-upgrade seems so slow over major releases?05:02
sazawalsebsebseb, Thanks. As far as I remember there is only one place to choose format or not-format. I suppose I won't make a mistake there05:02
{xmb}cause much more packages to touch05:02
mike802then a fresh install?05:02
sebsebsebsazawal: yes when you assign it as /home the format or not option should show as well, in the installer , the manual partioner in the installer05:03
sebsebseband down on the side maybe as well05:03
{xmb}so put preexisting in partition configs and also not change the partition table may be useful, which is safe tho05:05
sazawalsebsebseb, Yes right. In addition, I was thinking to put all the data in /home in a folder in the same partition and then do this. Because I want the new config and setting files in /home/user/ folder.05:05
{xmb}you can move it to that then05:06
sebsebsebsazawal: you could use the same username and password as before, for data, plus old config files05:06
sebsebsebsazawal: you could also access what was the previous home user  under the new account05:07
sebsebsebif making a new05:07
{xmb}u 1) copy everything to an own partition then 2) install with formatting over the old and 3) leave the third partition u copied to untouched in configs05:07
sebsebsebshopno later yes or whatever,   feeling tired now, about to leave here as well05:09
{xmb}me too, good night soon05:09
sebsebsebheh its morning really now buty eah05:09
sebsebsebsazawal: yes seperate /home is rather useful :) or can be05:10
sebsebsebcan easily go between distros like that as well :D05:10
sazawalsebsebseb, Well, yes I can make the new Ubuntu take over my old /home but then there would be leftover config files. I think I have enough trash in my /home folder which I do not want. I have experience from the earlier versions of Ubuntu that upgrading the version many times screws up things than doing a fresh installation.05:12
sazawalsebsebseb, Yes infact this is the first time I found it useful to have /home in a different partition.05:13
{xmb}if u messed too much up in there u'd want no more separate /home partition anymore05:14
{xmb}i mean useful if i'd have my old scripts around, but it'd point me wrong05:18
saunaHow can I set up routing so that everything from my ethernenet interface is routed to my wifi (with vpn )05:21
ChetManlyso is it me or is dd not  a viable way to write an ubuntu.iso to a usb drive?05:21
ChetManlythey always seem to fail05:21
{xmb}chet, cat <iso.file> >/dev/usb105:21
{xmb}where usb1 is the device actually05:21
{xmb}like sde1 or sde05:22
{xmb}dd is very... picky about usage parameters05:22
ChetManlydidnt know I could append a iso image to thumb drtive05:22
{xmb}no need dd for such, cat afile >destination works well05:22
{xmb}its not append05:22
{xmb}it will overwrite, either partition i like sde1 or sde for since-beginning05:23
{xmb}partition 1*05:23
{xmb}or the whole partition mapping05:23
{xmb}i copy iso's like this05:23
{xmb}but oh well05:23
{xmb}you may need unetbootin, it will copy the files and have a bootloader05:23
{xmb}i dont remember when such is needed and when not05:23
{xmb}last time i unetbootin't win10 iso and debian05:24
{xmb}but this tablet has custom boot disabled05:24
ChetManlyI am thinking I used dd lots in the past, has something changed on the livecd?05:24
{xmb}no, if u dont understand its options from ( man dd ) dont use it05:25
{xmb}i dont even know exactly all options theere05:25
{xmb}dd if=infile of=outfile <what end> bs=1 count=what error05:25
ChetManlyunetbootin isnt in the reops anymore05:25
{xmb}i suggest you to try two things, first cat over sde1, then over sde, then unetbootin05:26
{xmb}well i got it from their site05:26
{xmb}if 1) and 2) failed, u gotta mkfs.vfat /dev/sde and try then unetbootin05:26
{xmb}( and mount before unetbootin )05:26
ChetManlyI just used a windows machine with etcher or rufus or something05:27
{xmb}thats also fine05:27
ChetManlybut I havent had to do something like that in a long time and it was quite frustrating05:27
{xmb}u need updates like newest versions, to have more colorful fun05:28
{xmb}like newest windows insider fast build05:28
{xmb}there is even this option in the main windows 10 settings u can set it05:28
{xmb}and have newest ware installing faster05:28
ChetManlywhat is the default disc maker called?05:31
ChetManlyilike .iso writer05:32
DeadpanDeliveryi believe it is "startup disk creator"05:39
PharaohChrome/Flash on Ubuntu 19.04 anyone?05:42
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lotuspsychje__Pharaoh: pepperflash is in the repos05:42
lotuspsychje__ChetManly: startuo disk creator is installed by default on ubuntu05:43
Pharaohlotuspsychje__: pepperflash is bundled with Chrome05:43
lotuspsychje__Pharaoh: i think its now seperated05:44
Pharaohlotuspsychje__: Now, the adobe test page detects the version installed and does not complain that it is disabled. However, the plugin does not work.05:44
lotuspsychje__!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree05:44
ubottuPackage pepperflashplugin-nonfree does not exist in bionic05:44
Pharaohlotuspsychje__: I looked at the /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin created by chrome fresh install05:45
Pharaohok, let me try05:45
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PharaohI came across this link - http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/04/install-flash-player-plugin-ubuntu-19-04 - mentions that flash comes bundled with Ubuntu, needs to be installed for other browsers.. It was already working with firefox, chrome/chromium are the problem05:51
lotuspsychjePharaoh: pepperflash used to be bundled with chrome05:51
lotuspsychjethink its optional now05:51
PharaohI installed it anyways.. still the same05:52
lotuspsychjePharaoh: what site is it you are trying to make work?05:53
lotuspsychjePharaoh: cause some websites ask for an old flash method05:53
Pharaohlotuspsychje Adobe test page would be a good example05:53
Pharaohhttps://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html - if you browse down to #505:54
lotuspsychjePharaoh: works on FF for me, lemme try chromium now05:55
Pharaohlotuspsychje:  Yes, ff is alright05:55
lotuspsychjePharaoh: doesnt work on chromium indeed05:55
lotuspsychjethink the site needs the adobe flash05:56
PharaohThe PPAPI bundle from adobe has the pepperflash so file05:56
lotuspsychjeopera snap also doesnt work05:57
lotuspsychjePharaoh: maybe try this? browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash05:57
Pharaohbrowser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is already the newest version05:58
lotuspsychjeok out of ideas then05:58
Pharaohlotuspsychje: np. Thank you for your time!05:59
jcb2016anyone running mate-desktop for ubuntu. followed a guide but everything is messed up need to do a fresh install of mate06:00
{xmb}'whats wrong with wmaker'06:01
saunaI am the router. I have switch and another pc. I can ping myself (, computer can ping me (, but I cannot ping computer ( Help ?06:02
{xmb}u ping 2x self and one not ?06:03
krytarikjcb2016: Is it just the setting or did you mess with the packages too?06:03
{xmb}i have no comp to test on routing, i fear entering such commands and remote servers stop being on the internet06:04
{xmb}you can see ifconfig dev <ip> netmask
{xmb}and route add default gw
{xmb}[dev <dev>]06:05
saunaPing from router -> pc doesn't work (Destination host unreachable). Router -> router works. PC -> Router works.  PC -> PC doesn't work.06:05
jcb2016krytarik, will you be here tomorrow? i gotta go to bed. thanks though06:07
tatertotsthere is a #networking chat room ...just FYI06:18
krytarikHolle, hugh.06:24
{xmb}# a=( printf -- '%s\n' 'a test' ); eval "${a[@]}"06:39
{xmb}er wrong chan06:39
zaada chanel indonesia06:51
{xmb}#bash btw the solution was:06:51
{xmb}# t=( printf -- '%s\n' 'a test 3' $'with \'quotes\'' ); q() { for i in "${t[@]}"; do printf -- \'%s\'\  "${i//\'/\'\\\'\'}"; done; }; eval $( q ) | tail -106:51
Mystifiedhey just running ubuntu on a lenov yoga, just inserted apple superdrive07:08
MystifiedApple SuperDrive (2.00)     yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r07:09
evghow to run desktop app from terminal?07:10
Mystifiedyet file explorer is not showing it07:10
{xmb}startx evg07:10
Mystifiedany suggestions07:10
evgI can't , I use ssh07:10
Mystifiedwhere can I locate a driver for it07:10
{xmb}install tightvncserver07:10
{xmb}and run it just 'tightvncserver'07:10
{xmb}and have :1 via vnc07:10
{xmb}otherwise, if its a local machine startx straight to see on monitor07:11
{xmb}if remote use tightvncserver07:11
evgis it secure?07:11
{xmb}x11vnc is worse i think07:11
ledeniMystified, try to see it is showing in 'disks'07:15
ledeniMystified, what kind of hardware is superdrive07:19
lotuspsychjeevg: be careful with vnc, its a security risk. try to use other methods for remote work07:21
{xmb}u have suggestions which ?07:21
lotuspsychje!who | {xmb}07:21
ubottu{xmb}: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)07:21
{xmb}it needs to be remote-buffered like screen is, otherwise if i run a X server on windows then ssh forward X windows appear but on machine reboot the windows are gone, while the server didnt reboot07:22
{xmb}maybe some original x.org + some display capture + mouse control07:22
lotuspsychje{xmb}: use the tab please07:23
{xmb}no, sorry07:23
{xmb}your nick doesnt complete either easily07:23
{xmb}i want no <which char for stupid-tab-tabbing>07:23
lotuspsychje{xmb} thats why the tab does it for you...07:23
{xmb}[lotuspsychje   ] [lotuspsychje_  ] [               ] [               ]07:23
{xmb}very senseful07:23
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{xmb}other clients, other crap, :)07:26
lotuspsychje{xmb}: keep the offtopic for #ubuntu-offtopic please, only ubuntu questions here07:26
{xmb}which x server | remote x server IS an OS question07:26
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ckopnI used teamviewer but now it hasn't working , I guess after kernel update07:46
tatertotsaww that sucks07:53
lotuspsychje!language | tatertots07:53
ubottutatertots: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList07:53
padarchello, quick question: When i attempt to boot with kernel 5 (4.18 works fine), it seems like its gonna boot okay, near the end (right before the login screen), all the output (i have no splash/quiet enabled) is gone and all i get is an blinking cursor for minutes. How can i check what went wrong?08:01
padarc(using ubuntu 19.04)08:01
MrElendigboot to multi-user.target and with plymouth etc disabled08:09
guivercpadarc, maybe use `systemd-analyze blame` - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSystemd08:10
MrElendigcould also try to ssh in08:10
MrElendigif that doesn't work, boot the install image and check the logs08:10
MrElendigor try the resque.target and check the logs08:10
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daifucohi I find the current LTS, 18.4 very slugish, almost feel like a virtualbox, is there any fix, is 19.04 any better in that regard? Using manjaro-gnome now08:24
LuckyManhow do I add a script to Files (nautilus?) ?08:25
guivercdaifuco, it's my belief 19.04 (with it's later gnome) is faster; all posts I've read say so (but I don't use gnome myself so wouldn't know).08:29
MrElendigdaifuco: what hardware?08:31
MrElendigand yes, 19.04 is quite a bit faster08:31
MrElendig(and doesn't have an ancient nautilus etc)08:32
daifucoit is a standard desktop computer 2 years old i5, 16GB ram nvidia 1060 4k screen08:32
daifucoit flies on manjaro, but with 18.04 it feels really slow08:33
LuckyMandaifuco, try 19.04, it really speeds up things08:37
daifucook thanks08:37
daifucojust a question, once the distro gets obsolete, in november, is there any easy way to upgrade?08:38
LuckyManI'm using a AMD X2 (10 years old) and it feels like I just bought a new computer08:38
daifucoI have tried linux in the past but I ahvent used for long time, just to try things08:38
daifuconow my gf has taken my macbook pro xD so I guess ill stick with linux for a while xD08:39
LuckyMandaifuco, yes, you can upgrade using the terminal or the actualizations app08:39
padarcMrElendig, okay, just let it blink there again for 2-3min, /var/log/boot.log does not show anything weird (as far as i notice), "systemd-analyze blame" shows nothing either (highest is snapd.service with 26seconds) ... gonna inform myself now for that multi-user.target thing and howto disable plymouth .. wish me luck08:39
daifucothanks LuckyMan08:40
LuckyMandaifuco, you can upgrade from terminal just writing do-release-upgrade08:41
LuckyMandaifuco, this depends on new release beeing available (disco is not available yet but you can do a do-release-upgrade -d)08:43
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lotuspsychjeLuckyMan: wanna share specs in #ubuntu-discuss for your amd?09:16
LuckyManlotuspsychje, ok09:27
LuckyManlotuspsychje, I don't have an identified nick, so I can't join the channel... I will share it here09:29
lotuspsychjeLuckyMan: in query then plz09:29
LuckyManlotuspsychje, what do you mean?09:30
lotuspsychjeLuckyMan: private message09:31
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l1nkdi just upgraded to ubuntu 19.04 and can't boot. booting kernel 5.0 doesn't even seem to try to import the zfs pool, but 4.18 imports the pool and then complains that it can't find a dataset within that pool (my root is the main dataset of that pool)10:22
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{xmb}im sorry to only use ext4 without any pools or so :)10:22
l1nkdi don't understand why it's trying to use a dataset inside the pool when the linux command line says `root=ZFS=zfsroot`10:24
firelegendI compiled a kernel for ubuntu10:37
firelegendI used the deb-pkg command to build the deb packages10:37
firelegendbut.....it did not build modules10:38
lotuspsychjefirelegend: we dont support own kernel compile10:38
lotuspsychjefirelegend: use !mainline instead10:38
lotuspsychjefirelegend: try ##kernel10:38
firelegendmainline does not offer the features I need10:38
lotuspsychjefirelegend: if you want to help the ubuntu community you can use !bugs are help the developers10:39
firelegendIt's not like that10:39
firelegendmore like the kernel was compiled with an option I dont like10:39
firelegendIt's strict devmem, limits what you can read from /dev/mem to 1 meg10:39
lotuspsychjefirelegend: bugs have wishlists, if you like or dislike a feature, you can influence the community10:40
firelegendNo I cannot, as this is generally a security feature, and will likely stay there forever.10:40
firelegendBut what can be done is a kernel boot param to disable it.10:40
firelegendUntil then I have no choice but to compile it myself10:41
lotuspsychjefirelegend: ok sounds that ##kernel will be your best bet then mate10:41
firelegendWill try then.10:42
jeremy31firelegend: some modules would be built with the source code of linux-modules-extra10:42
firelegendMainline kernel comes with several deb packages10:43
firelegendlinux-headers and linux-image and linux-modules10:43
firelegendlinux-modules are missing10:43
{xmb}firelegend i havent seen linux-modules at all10:57
{xmb}you install kernel-image, and then it should auto do the initrd with modules from the package10:57
{xmb}otherwise you do, update-initramfs -c -k <version>10:58
{xmb}and update-grub10:58
miahow is it possible to install the latest version of the gnome-shell in ubuntu?10:59
miaI don't like the ubuntu-modified version, and doing apt install gnome-session only installes 3.28.311:00
{xmb}add more sources to apt/sources.list and retry11:02
{xmb}enable in configs more sources11:02
{xmb}dunno where it is, i have no ubuntu box with such X settings, only cmdline11:02
lotuspsychje!who | <{xmb}11:02
ubottu<{xmb}: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)11:02
{xmb}<tab> i meant11:02
mia{xmb}, oh I though you were writing to me :)11:03
{xmb}i did so11:03
miaOh wait was that a response to my gnome-session question11:03
lotuspsychje{xmb}: you see how fast things get confusing now?11:03
{xmb}and... my client isnt good suitable for tabbing, nor is my writing style.. ill consider it for the further tho ok ?11:04
lotuspsychjemia: we reccomend for trying out different versions of gnome, test other ubuntu releases, try to avoid !mix packages11:05
mialotuspsychje, hm, what do you mean by mix11:06
lotuspsychjemia: like using the right package version for the right ubuntu version11:06
lotuspsychje!info gnome-shell disco11:07
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.32.0+git20190410-1ubuntu1 (disco), package size 677 kB, installed size 3353 kB11:07
lotuspsychje!info gnome-shell bionic11:07
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.4 (bionic), package size 670 kB, installed size 7400 kB11:07
miaI've installed the vanilla gnome on ubuntu, as I don't like the style choices made by the ubuntu team (prefer the vanilla look and feel) @lotuspsychje11:08
lotuspsychjemia: wich ubuntu version are you on?11:08
miabut I also realized there are some additional stuff in the 3.32 version - so wanted to try it on 18.0411:08
miaI'm on 18.04 lts11:08
miajust installed it yesterday, so, the latest stable I think11:08
lotuspsychjemia: if you like gnome2 better, maybe test out gnome2 style flavors of ubuntu11:10
mialotuspsychje, nope, I want to have 3.3211:11
lotuspsychjemia: maybe in the future gnome 3.32 features might come to 18.04 also11:11
miaso currently there is no way to install it on 18.04?11:11
lotuspsychjemia: its not reccomended to mix packages11:11
miaOkay I see, thanks lotuspsychje11:11
miamaybe you're right, the reason I picked the LTS was to be stable11:12
miamaybe mixing would be just the opposite11:12
lotuspsychjethere we go mia11:12
miaTHank you ^^11:12
lotuspsychjemia: there are some tricks & tweaks to make 18.04 gnome a smoother experience too11:15
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BluesKajHiyas all11:49
MrElendig/quit zomg aliens11:58
u0_a139how to quit??11:58
lunaHow do i upgrade from 19.04 Dev Branch to stable?12:27
qwebirc11451I love ubuntu12:27
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lunayeah but still how?12:29
{xmb}search the web, there were i saw few docs about doing so12:29
{xmb}look for 'downgrade'12:29
{xmb}why u wanna downgrade12:29
{xmb}i dont wanna downgrade my debian/4 systems, with experimental and others12:30
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cfhowlettluna, are you on ubuntu or debian?12:30
lunacfhowlett: Ubuntu12:30
{xmb}19 dev12:30
{xmb}to downgrade to stable12:31
{xmb}i could maybe make a downgrade script12:31
tatertotsor just install the OS you desire to use from the get go12:31
cfhowlettthis ^^^12:31
tatertots..i know thats a radical concept12:31
lunatatertots: yeah but don't wanna format the SSD12:31
{xmb}install over it, it will run but it will have leftovers12:32
cfhowlettno need to format.  just point the new OS to the current partition table12:32
{xmb}maybe before install mv bin usr etc away12:32
{xmb}lib64, ..12:32
leftyfb{xmb}: can you please stop? This is a support channel.12:34
leftyfbluna: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade # this will update to the latest release of 19.04 if you're already running 19.04.12:35
lunaleftyfb: thanks :)12:35
{xmb}umm buh bye looser12:38
leftyfbluna: just to clarify, ignore everything {xmb} said. They were just trolling.12:38
lunaleftyfb: i would have guessed so, still updating so will have a fresh Dingo in a while12:40
empedokles78With Gnome and only one single user, is it possible to access password entry box directly without clicking on users on startup?12:41
cfhowlettsingle user?  as in only ONE account?12:42
guiverc_dempedokles78, i thought you could press <enter> in that case & it went to password entry (this may depend on which dm you are using; lightdm/gdm3 etc)12:43
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lunaleftyfb: it worked thanks12:44
kareempharmacistI wish I could use Linux at the pharmacy I am working at12:45
kareempharmacistUbuntu 18.04 is fun12:45
leftyfbempedokles78: hit enter12:46
empedokles78leftyfb, yes I know, but I'd like to even avoid this.12:53
empedokles78guiverc_d, dito.12:53
empedokles78I don't know which one is the default "dm". I'm using the standard one.12:53
dukestyxI saw a couple of users requesting support for pop!_OS today - who should I speak to with regards to ubottu and it providing a bot link to the Pop!_OS Mattermost as a support channel for those users?13:04
leftyfbdukestyx: it doesn't make sense to make a bot link to ever other distro on the planet. We can just tell them this is a support channel for ubuntu only.13:14
ibrahimHow to fix plymouth resolution after install nvidia driver in Ubuntu DD...13:15
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nullbyte_how can i upgrade ubuntu to 19.04 from 18.10 under console with apt-get14:03
ikanoboriOnce is enough.14:03
ikanoboriYour question is like 'how do I put a nail in the wall with my sock'.14:07
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ikanoboriGenerally you'd run do-release-upgrade which will do the apt things for you.14:07
gofioanybody here ever used multysistem from ubuntu to boot a windows machine? thanks14:12
tomreyngofio: what is "multysistem"?14:12
gofioa usb bootable program so to speak14:13
tomreyngot a website?14:13
gofioI do have all in spanish, so kinda difficult to translate correctly14:13
gofioI've tried a couple already. Unetboot as well, woeusb14:15
gofiounetboot took a century to end the process from ubuntu to finally die into a 10 second loop when pluged into the windows machine, just like in here https://askubuntu.com/questions/493440/unetbootin-is-stuck-in-an-automatic-boot-in-10-seconds-countdown-loop14:17
tomreyngofio: the way i understand it "LiveUSB MultiBoot" (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/) is a software which scripts the installation of multiple linux distributions on a bootable removable storage?14:17
gofionow the multisystem seems to do something but i'm lost now into the grub4dos thing14:18
gofioyeap kinda tomreyn it should also install any software including all windows versions14:19
tomreyngofio: let's keep it easy: this software is not supported here. if you can describe what you are trying to achieve maybe someone can suggest a good way to go about it.14:19
gofiolike this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twwXJY1Ivk though I didn't get there yet14:19
gofiomaybe at the end what I try to achieve is to find a high high tower and jump from it tomreyn (kinda kidding)14:20
tomreyngofio: we only support ubuntu here, but you can ask for help with this and other custom grub menu creating softwares in ##linux14:21
gofioany channel u'd suggest tomreyn  where I can ask about this?14:21
tomreyngofio: please read what i just wrote14:21
gofiosince I'm still with ubuntu 17.10 I'm in the worst situation possible14:21
gofiok, ty tomreyn , I'll try there14:22
qwebirc71671hello folks, i'm chrooted into a new install, trying to install grub, but i see "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/mapper/cryptroot'" , any help on how to resolve this would be appreciated14:22
tomreynyou can also add custom grub menu records by writing them to /etc/grub/grub.d/ manually14:23
tomreyngofio: ^14:23
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tomreynbut 17.10 is obvuiously eond of life since a log time.14:23
tomreynhi chroot14:23
chrootubuntuwas changing nick to something easier to read14:24
Guest10hello I am a noob regarding linux installations and I am having problems after finishing a trisquel ubuntu installation: my headphone jack is not working. I tried half a dozen recipes for fixing the problem including kernel-update, alsa-restart, alsa-reconfiguration, a dozen of reboots14:24
Guest10nothing is working14:24
tomreynchrootubuntu: this message usuakky suggests that not all virtual file systems are bind mounted intho the chroot target, specifically /proc14:25
gofiobtw tomreyn would u know anywhere u could point me to so I can upgrade from ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04 without a new install :? I've tried a couple ways but if u knew, that'd be great14:25
Guest10can anyone help me with that problem?14:25
tomreyn!eolupgrade | gofio14:25
ubottugofio: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:25
gofioyeah I know about the end of life, it was first thing people told me when I got in here first time14:26
gofiok, thanks for the links tomreyn  will check'em out14:26
chrootubuntutomreyn: i've got /boot , / , proc and sys added to fstab , and did mount -a , /proc is populated14:26
chrootubuntuthe setup is /boot with / inside luks14:27
xamithanIs there a qt network manager applet?14:27
BluesKajGuest10, which audio driver, cat /proc/asound/modules14:28
empedokles78How can I make a symbol link icon for the poweroff command?14:29
tomreyn!ot | Guest1014:30
ubottuGuest10: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:30
tomreynwe only support ubuntu here, not trisquel14:30
Guest10blueskaj: sorry, I cannot find what you have posted in the terminal14:31
tomreynchrootubuntu: what about /dev /dev/pts ? did you bind-mount those?14:31
BluesKajGuest10, cat /proc/asound/modules14:32
Guest100 snd_hda_intel14:32
Guest101 snd_hda_intel14:32
chrootubuntutomreyn: i did the first option of "D.4.4.3. Create device files" from here - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apds04.html14:33
chrootubuntui'll exit the chroot, and mount them14:33
chrootubuntuignore the exit chroot part14:34
tomreynchrootubuntu: hmm maybe what i suggested is not actually necessary, i'm not certain14:35
tomreynbut then the message you encountered does suggest something is missing14:35
tomreynchrootubuntu: these are my notes on how to carry out a chroot recovery http://paste.debian.net/plain/107870114:37
BluesKajGuest10, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel model=auto14:38
chrootubuntutomreyn: this is a remote server, so no efi stuff thankfully , i just noticed when i do "apt install grub-pc" i see "E: Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?) - posix_openpt (19: No such device)"14:39
EriC^chrootubuntu: you need to mind --bind /dev and /dev/pts /proc and /sys14:39
Guest10BluesKaj I will try thank you14:39
BluesKajGuest10, then save the file and reboot14:39
EriC^*mount --bind14:40
EriC^chrootubuntu: ^ assuming you're doing a chroot14:40
Guest10curiously I just have found another fix14:40
Guest10and now I have sound, but the guy on the website wrote that it's just temporary14:40
gofiodo u think I'll be able to upgrade from ubuntu 17.10 to Lubuntu 18.04 tomreyn :?14:41
Guest10I'll try and reboot14:41
Guest10see you14:41
chrootubuntuEriC^:  so i do "mount --bind dev /dev" from inside the chroot ?14:41
gofiojust learned I had to not only have chosen the 18.04 version but also the light one as this computer I'm running now "only" has 4g ram14:42
chrootubuntuthe host is debian and 18.04 chroot14:42
EriC^chrootubuntu: no, from outside, sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev or use a bash loop "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"14:42
tomreyngofio: i don't know you well enough to tell. generally, it's possible using the manual i pointed you to. however, if you ran a system without security patches but with known vulnerabiolities for well over a year, your better choice is probably a fresh installation.14:42
gofioI'm reading it, that's why asked. mmmh a fresh install. I'm also on a dual boot with windows 7, on a small partition. Hell must be pretty likely this14:44
garttNewbie question, but on https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop for Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS, will this work for 32-bit Intels? I see from the release notes that they dropped 32-bit PowerPC, but that's all I see14:44
gofiothanks for ur time tomreyn , sorry to bother14:44
chrootubuntugrub installed, many thanks for the help tomreyn & EriC^14:45
gofiothat second link u gave me tomreyn is pretty much what I needed for the upgrade, thanks. Now is the time for the meditation xD so I guess first try to get to ubuntu 18.04 and then try to jump to lubuntu, if that is possible. Will find out if still alive14:48
tomreyngofio: you don't bother me, no worries. lubuntu is still alive and supported. /join #lubuntu if you like (but we can also support you here in general ubuntu terms).14:53
gofiook, great thanks tomreyn , I'll do so if I get to upgrade to ubuntu 18.04 first14:54
gofioand will join the lubuntu channel as well, thanks!14:54
tomreynyou're welcome.14:55
Guest10thx for your help, guys. Actually I just reinstalled Ubuntu and suddenly the headphone jack sound worked out of the box. miraculously.14:58
Guest10happy easter anyways :)14:58
BluesKajGuest10, reinstalled ubuntu or trisquel?15:01
Guest10don't know why but now it works even if I didn't change anything in the installation process15:02
Guest10still the same usb-stick, still the same procedure15:02
Guest10but now the sound works :)15:02
BluesKajGuest10, trisquel isn't a supported ubuntu flavour, so next time check #trisquel chat15:02
Guest10oh I didn't know trisquel had a chatroom15:02
Guest10can't even talk in #trisquel15:04
Guest10it says "Cannot send to nick/channel"15:04
tomreyn!register | Guest1015:04
ubottuGuest10: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.15:04
Guest10oh I see15:04
lublueJust did a clean install of Lubuntu 19.04, and there are blue borders around all the windows? In some apps, multiple borders. How do I get rid of them?15:09
tomreynlublue: can you show a screenshot?15:09
tomreynthere is also #lubuntu by the way15:09
lubluetomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/RAR5TUf15:12
lubluedidn't know about #lubuntu, thanks15:12
tomreynlublue: i'm not so familiar with lubuntu but i can install it in a VM and see if i get the same effect if you like?15:16
tomreynshoouldn't take so long (~15 minutes)15:16
tomreynah i see you got a good reasponse in #lubuntu, then i'll pass15:17
BlackDexSo does someone have an alternative for the indicator-multiload, doesn't seem to work that well on gnome315:17
Celmor[m]I'm trying to run veracrypt, installed the usual way but get an error along the lines of "ubuntu failed to execute child process no such file"15:25
Celmor[m]I can do `file /usr/bin/veracrypt` (showing me the proper ELF file) but can't do `sudo /usr/bin/veracrypt `15:25
ikanoboriCan't do how?15:26
Celmor[m]sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/veracrypt: No such file or directory15:26
Celmor[m]`file` outputs: usr/bin/veracrypt: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=0dcadc7bae416f3211b50bef57befae7c900105e, stripped15:26
Celmor[m]I've tried starting it through the installed .desktop file (giving me the first error) and through the terminal (giving me the second error)15:28
ikanoboriAre you on a 64-bit system?15:28
Celmor[m]even tried disabling apparmor, thinking it's somehow blocking the execution15:28
ikanoboriThat binary is 32-bit.15:28
ikanoboriGet a 64-bit binary or enable multiarch.15:29
Celmor[m]how do I enable multiarch?15:29
Celmor[m]that error is misleading then15:29
ikanoboriIt's because it can't find the loader.15:30
ikanoboriJust as if you were to put a shebang to a non-existent thing.15:30
ikanoboriFor multiarch you install multiarch-support and the i386 versions of all libraries that binary is linked against.15:31
Celmor[m]then, how do I enable multiarch?15:31
lubluetomreyn: yep, solved it. but thanks anyway :)15:31
ikanoboriBut preferably, you'd get a binary compiled for 64-bit :)15:32
Celmor[m]"multiarch-support is already the newest version (2.27-3ubuntu1)"15:32
Celmor[m]ldd usr/bin/veracrypt: not a dynamic executable15:32
Celmor[m]is it linked against anything if it's not a "dynamic executable"?15:32
ikanoboriYour ldd is also 64-bit.15:33
Celmor[m]ikanobori: if you tell me where from, sure... veracrypt doesn't seem to be in any of the repos (enabled them all in the options)15:33
ikanoboriAnd will use the standard dynamic linker to establish the libraries.15:33
Celmor[m]guess I'll just have to use a different livecd then15:34
ikanoboriI don't know veracrypt at all, do they not offer proper binaries for your system?15:34
ikanoboriIf not I'd assume they explain how to actually use them.15:34
ikanoboriA quick google seems to say their tarball comes with an -x64 binary that you should be using.15:35
ikanoboriI googled 'how to install veracrypt on ubuntu'.15:35
Celmor[m]I've read several guides for installing veraccrypt, they just go through downloading the tar file, extracting the executables and starting the gui binary and clicking through the installer15:35
ikanoboriMaybe it's not the best software if it's that hard to install.15:36
ikanoboriTheir website does seem to mention only a legacy version with 32-bit support.15:37
ikanoboriWhere did you get it?15:37
Celmor[m]there were only x86 binaries in the tar file15:37
ikanoboriI just downloaded it.15:38
ikanoboriAnd it only has x64.15:38
Celmor[m]gues I downloaded the wrong link15:39
ikanoboriYes, you downloaded the legacy 32-bit only version.15:39
Celmor[m]somehow my left ctrl key got disabled, is there an option or something that would do that?15:40
tomreynCelmor[m]: had you considered alternatives before going with veracrypt? there is similar software which is better integrated into ubuntu, and supported by ubuntu.15:40
Celmor[m]I need cross-platform support15:40
Celmor[m]meh, it keeps opening the executables in notepad and then freezing for minutes15:41
tomreynokay, then it's probably the right choice15:41
Celmor[m]whatever the ubuntu/gnome equivalent is15:42
Celmor[m]gedit, which keeps crashing15:46
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mezodhello, is there a way to grep a pattern in a file but get surrounding lines too?16:04
tomreynmezod: -C16:08
ubottuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/16:09
mezodyep, for some reason I was trying -c >.<16:09
qwebirc84732Does ubuntu have a "Add to Desktop" function? On KDE you can create a shortcut for apps from the Main Menu.16:20
skeebowhat DE are you using now?16:21
vlad_hi. anyone know why win+space is a default hotkey for layout switch and why I cant set old hotkey (alt+shift)?16:24
qwebirc84732I installed Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) - GNOME desktop 3.32 on my 2nd computer. I can't add a shortcut to the desktop.16:25
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[itchyjunk]Hi, I would like to instealld openGL on my ubuntu 18.04. Google gives a bunch of different tutorials but I remember doing this with some GUI app that was preinstalled before.16:58
ChetManlyso whats the best way to backup windows from cli now? like to make a clone image16:58
[itchyjunk]It was somewhere in Show Applications ->.16:58
[itchyjunk]`sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` found no drivers :'(17:02
BluesKaj[itchyjunk] which gpu ?17:07
[itchyjunk]BluesKaj, i can't figure it out `ubuntu-driver devices` said nothing17:08
[itchyjunk](I tried to launch Dota 2 and got an error saying i don't have OpenGL. I remember installing some type of nvidia driver on this to play before)17:08
BluesKaj[itchyjunk],  sudo lshw -C video17:09
miaHello channel17:09
miaone question: when switched to a command line ttl from desktop mode, does the desktop still consume any gpu memory?17:10
[itchyjunk]Looks like i have no GPU? Can open gl still be installed?17:10
miaI would like to experiment with some premade trained neural networks (to be more specific: gan's) but I only have one GPU so I'd like to know if it's better to do all this in ttl3 or similar command line17:11
[itchyjunk]I am going to attempt to follow this guide, wish me luck : https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/mesa-18-1-1-ubuntu-18-04-ppa17:13
BluesKaj[itchyjunk], you have intel graphics and the i915 driver installed which is the default, so your OpenGL setting should be a available in system settings17:13
[itchyjunk]How do I access it? I am looking under settings and also searchin system setting and finding nothing.17:15
[itchyjunk]This is the error I am trying to fix if it helps: https://imgur.com/a/i3zbpIM17:18
BluesKaj[itchyjunk], how old is this computer ?17:20
[itchyjunk]It is an old dell machine, maybe 6-8 year old?17:20
BluesKaj[itchyjunk], it should be able to do 3.1 iirc17:21
[itchyjunk]I remember the game working on this machien before :'(17:21
BluesKaj[itchyjunk], make sure you have liva2 installed...you can check in your package manager17:25
BluesKajcorrection, libva217:26
mdlpehi, after installing nvidia driver, impossible to connect to Ubuntu. The password is ok but it is like if it is wrong17:31
BluesKaj[itchyjunk], is this an "Optimus hybrid gpu system" with intel and nvidia gpus ?17:31
BluesKaj!Optimus | [itchyjunk]17:32
ubottu[itchyjunk]: Ubuntu uses nvidia-prime to support optimus videocards.17:32
mdlpeBluesKaj, it is an amd with vega and nividia17:32
mdlpeI can not loggin17:33
tomreyn!nomodeset | mdlpe17:34
ubottumdlpe: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:34
xamithanProbably used the wrong nvidia driver version for your card17:34
tomreynmdlpe: installing the nvidia driver as downloaded from nvidia.com is not supported here.17:34
tomreyn[itchyjunk]: which ubuntu version are you on?17:35
tomreynwhich kernel version?17:36
[itchyjunk]libva2 is already installed it says17:36
tomreyn[itchyjunk]:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)17:36
mdlpeI installed the driver by Ubuntu extra driver17:36
mdlpefor the kernel version i can not give any answer, I need to reboot17:37
tomreynmdlpe: you mean "ubuntu-drivers" or its GUI equivalent, accessible from system settings?17:37
tomreyn[itchyjunk]: and this?   lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999917:38
mdlpeit is from the GUI of Ubuntu17:39
tomreynmdlpe: amd vega + nvidia sounds new enough that you may need to use !hwe, possibly the ubuntu (updated proprietary) drivers !ppa as well17:40
ChetManlyis there a different way to install ubuntu to a laptop with a mmc card as a hard drive?  it is a HP stream17:40
ChetManlythis card will wear out fairly quick the standard way right? need ram disks?17:41
ioria[itchyjunk], you could override the Mesa version, but the outcome would not be ideal17:42
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[itchyjunk]Does my card not support openGL 3.1 or higher?17:42
tomreynwhatever [itchyjunk] will do with this hardware, the outcome will not be ideal for this game, or opengl gaming in general17:43
ioria[itchyjunk], run glxinfo -B and see17:43
tomreyn(and that's an understatement)17:43
ioria[itchyjunk], you need mesa-utils installed17:43
[itchyjunk]instealling it right now17:43
[itchyjunk]i think i know my problem :x17:44
[itchyjunk]the screen on this is no functioning so i have it hooked to a small tv17:45
ioria[itchyjunk], paste  'OpenGL version string'17:45
[itchyjunk]OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 Mesa 18.2.817:45
tomreynChetManly: an emmc card should last a good while, usually longer than standard flash (like in a usb stick or sd card). you can run ubuntu off it normally.17:45
irgendwer47111hi need help with mysql, I can't install it, its crash every time17:46
ioria[itchyjunk],  2.0 < 3.117:46
tomreynalso opengl ES is something completely different17:47
tomreyn[itchyjunk]: there will be another line about opengl version17:47
ioriawill be the same, i'am afraid17:47
tomreynOpenGL core profile version string17:48
tomreynOpenGL version string:17:48
ioriaOpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.817:48
[itchyjunk]that one says 2.1 as well17:48
tomreynnot the same but low enough not to work17:48
[itchyjunk]laptop officially too old to play the game sounds like17:48
ioria[itchyjunk],  try this workaround in #4 :  https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?313464-I-am-unable-to-start-Dota217:49
irgendwer47111mysql is broken in 18.0417:50
winterfellare you know install oracle database?17:50
winterfellim stuck17:50
irgendwer47111me too17:50
[itchyjunk]What error are you guys getting when installing mysql?17:52
irgendwer47111Failed to start MySQL Community Server.17:52
winterfelloracle database17:52
tomreynirgendwer47111, winterfell: if you'd like support installing mysql-server on ubuntu, please discuss the details. ubuntu version, mysql server version, source of your packages, how you're installing, what is the output.17:52
ChetManlytomreyn: oic, is there a easy to make ram disks for ubuntu so that it wont write that much?17:52
tomreynthat's *full* output, not just single lines. and use a !pastebin17:53
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:53
irgendwer47111error after mysql-server-5.7-Skript (postprocess)17:55
[itchyjunk]Hm, i can't find that "set launch option" mentioned in the form17:55
tomreynChetManly: here's an example:    sudo mkdir /mnt/ramdisk; echo 'tmpfs /mnt/ramdisk tmpfs rw,size=512M,user 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab; sudo mount /mnt/ramdisk; sudo ls -l /mnt/ramdisk17:56
tomreynirgendwer47111: full output needed17:56
molluskempireSo the logitech C920, how do I get it to not downgrade resolution in Discord/Cheese? I force it to 1920/1080 in v4l2 but the moment I open the video in cheese it forces to 720/xxx and in discord it downgrades to 640/480?17:57
tomreyn[itchyjunk]: which form?17:57
[itchyjunk]the one ioria listed. i googled it and found it and the game actually launches. :O17:58
ioria[itchyjunk],  test it a bit17:58
[itchyjunk]ah it crashed ha17:59
tomreynthat's where it tried to use an opengl function or extension you dont have18:00
[itchyjunk]ah i see18:00
[itchyjunk]so i asked it to force launch the game anyways but it crashes everytime a non existant function is called or something18:00
devslash2I started the upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04. all of a sudden my screen went black with just a shell prompt. I waited 30 minutes but it didnt go away so I forced my laptop to reboot and now its still booting to a blinking cursor18:01
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tomreyndevslash2: did you have PPAs configured and packages installed from there when you started the upgrade?18:02
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devslash2i dunno18:02
gofiohopefully will be running ubuntu 18.04 soon in a machine with a dual boot tomreyn, once there I can ask questions here, isn't it. tia18:02
devslash2i can switch to terminal 2 to log into the shell18:03
tomreyndevslash2: okay, so much for the why.18:03
tomreyndevslash2: yes, you'll need to proced from a temrinal18:03
devslash2ok im logged in18:03
tomreyndevslash2: also proprietary (graphics?) drivers could trigger this.18:04
ChetManlytomreyn: my reasoning is that windows has been running a muck on this mmc card for awhile now so I dont want to install ubuntu to it then it calf awhile later18:04
devslash2when I do startx I get an error xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)18:04
tomreyngofio: sure, if you run a supported ubuntu release we'll be happy to support you here.18:05
ioriadevslash2, check if your /etc/apt/sources.list has been already set to 'disco'18:05
MdlpeHi, I can loggin with the earlier kernel. The last one wheere I installed nvidia driver, I can't18:05
ChetManlytomreyn:  its only 30GB  and I think windows installation are much bigger than this let alone updates.... I dont think it was able to install the last update18:06
gofiok, great thanks tomreyn, somebody gave me a direct link to the iso I needed and so now succesfully partinioted into two the usb I have and so from one partition I hope this iso works out in the disfuntioning machine I have by my side apart from this one I'm typing into18:06
tomreyndevslash2: startx is no longer a viable option to intialize a graphical desktop18:06
devslash2it looks lie it has18:07
devslash2it looks like it has18:07
devslash2all the enabled repos mention disco and the cosmic repos are commented out18:07
tomreynChetManly: we only support ubuntu here, not windows.18:07
ioriadevslash2, cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | nc termbin.com 999918:08
tomreynChetManly: you can install ubuntu to any storage your computer is able to boot off. ideally one which lasts for a while.18:08
ChetManlytomreyn: yes I  have just never encountered this before and am trying to wrap my head around it18:09
ChetManlytomreyn: yeah it not mine lol18:09
ChetManlycant believe they get away with it actually18:09
tomreyngofio: what's the name of the isop file you downloaded then?18:09
devslash2 ok give me a minute i dont haave that termbin and when i tried to nstall it it said that i need to do dpkg --configure -a18:10
devslash2and it looks like its setting up a bunch of packages18:10
gofioit's from the cdimage.ubuntu site tomreyn18:10
gofiolet me check the name18:10
ioriadevslash2, termbin it's not a package18:10
devslash2well that command didnt work18:10
miahow can I chance an application's icon in ubuntu?18:10
ioriadevslash2, what you got ?18:11
gofioxubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64 tomreyn18:11
miaI'm using numix icon pack but some of the applications I have does not have the proper numix icon18:11
devslash2ioria, what do you mean ?18:11
miaso I would like to pick another icon18:11
xamithanEdit the .desktop file and point to a new icon mia18:11
ioriadevslash2, 'well that command didnt work'18:11
devslash2 cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | nc termbin.com 999918:11
ioriadevslash2, yes, how it fails ?18:11
devslash2hang on when this is done ill re-run it and tell you the error message18:12
gofioright now succesfully downloaded into the usb btw tomreyn, 1.5 gigas18:12
gofiowish me luck18:12
tomreyngofio: okay, so you'll install the latest long term support release of the Ubuntu flavour called "Xubuntu" (with a not so performance hungry graphical desktop), on this computer of yours. Fine.18:12
molluskempireI'm trying to get a logitech c920 in 19.04 to keep a stable 1920/1080 resolution. In discord it auto downgrades to 640/480 after forcing it to that resolution in v4l2. Any advice?18:12
gofioso u think once there tomreyn will be able to repair the windows boot :?18:13
miaxamithan, hm, where would that file be?18:14
xamithaneither /usr/share/applications, ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/local/share/applications18:15
xamithanDepending on how it was installed or put in18:15
tomreyngofio: not sure whom you're talking to but tomreyn won't repair the widows boot.18:15
gofiohaha yeap tomreyn18:15
gofiowho wants commas :-)18:16
winterfellgoodnight from indonesia18:17
devslash2it looks like i fixed the issue18:17
winterfellgoodnight from indonesia18:19
tomreynwinterfell: welcome back, once again18:21
gofiommmmh....what u think tomreyn about tryingto run an iso from a partitioned usb... :-/18:24
tomreyngofio: so you copied the iso file, as a file, to a file systemon the usb stick you want to boot from?18:25
gofioyes, but that stick now has two partitions tomreyn18:26
gofioso dunno if that's gonna be a problem now18:26
gofiocuz is not working as it should18:26
Frogger- Hmm, I just did a "do-release-upgrade".  The upgrade tool informed me that Livepatch will be turned off as livepatch secuity updates are not available for 19.04.18:27
tomreyngofio: you should use a software such as https://etcher.io to write the xubuntu installer iso file to the bootable installer storage. and keep in mind that this will delete any existing data on this storage.18:27
gofioand each partition has a different iso tomreyn18:27
Frogger-Will Livepatch be automatically turned back on once livepatch security updates are available?18:27
gofiothanks tomreyn  will check out that18:28
tomreynFrogger-: no, you'll need to re-enable them manually once you're runnign an LTS release again18:28
gofioI'm having all kinds of problems tomreyn, thanks for ur help18:28
tomreynyou're welcome, gofio18:28
Frogger-tomreyn: Thanks.  Guess I'll wait then.18:28
tomreynFrogger-: for a year?18:29
Frogger-Sure, why not?  I'm having no problems with 18.10.18:29
tomreynhmm i dont think 18.10 supports livepatching18:30
Frogger-Ben64:  Bionic.18:30
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ubottuUbuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) is the 28th release of Ubuntu and the current LTS release. Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes18:30
Frogger-Err, Cosmic.  :-)18:30
Ben6418.10 doesn't have live patching, and loses support in July18:30
ubottuUbuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) is the 29th release of Ubuntu, supported until July 2019.  Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes - See also: bionic18:30
Frogger-So only LTS has livepatch?  I didn't know that.18:31
Frogger-In which case I might as well upgrade to 19.04.18:31
tomreyn!lts | Frogger-18:31
ubottuFrogger-: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.18:31
tomreynnext LTS will be 20.0418:32
jcotton!flavors > jcotton18:32
ubottujcotton, please see my private message18:32
Frogger-tomreyn:  Yeah, I knew all that.  I've been running Kubuntu since Hoary.  :-)18:32
tomreynFrogger-: well you confused a few thing, so i thought i'd explain.18:33
Frogger-tomreyn:  Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  I just wasn't aware that Livepatch was only for LTS.18:34
tomreyni think it says on the website but it could be stated more clearly18:34
Frogger-Which I suppose makes sense.  Rebooting a desktop machine is much less of an issue than having to reboot my server.18:35
tomreynright, and servers will still need to occasional reboot, too18:35
gofiolooks like ubuntu doesn't like uneven-odd numbers tomreyn :-D 14...18...20...18:35
tomreyngofio: what doesn't seem to work there?18:36
tomreynoh you're commenting on LTS18:36
gofioI mean for the lst VERSIONS tomreyn (IF CUZ OF THAT)oops caps18:36
gofiodon't wanna flood with my list of things not working here lol18:37
tomreyngofio: you're welcome to discuss them, one at a time (if you seek assistence)18:39
gofionot sure what I have to do now with this balenaetcher iso tomreyn, unzip it I guess but then what18:40
tomreyngofio: which operating system are you on now?18:41
alien64ok thanks guys dont need help today but im sure i will. just learning android studio.18:41
gofioubuntu 17.10 tomreyn18:41
gofiojust to make things worse, u know18:42
tomreyngofio: right so you downloaded the linux x64 from the etcher website an unpack it and run it18:43
tomreynoh wait thats an appimage18:43
gofionot run it yet18:43
gofioI have all kinds of issues, hard disk space among others18:43
gofioI'm trying to unzip it but it keeps telling mee I have no space18:44
gofioeven in the 60g usb, so I'm guessing there must be something else apart from just space18:44
tomreyndf -h | nc termbin.com 999918:45
tomreynrun this gofio18:45
gofiodone tomreyn18:46
tomreyngofio: it returned a http address, post that here18:46
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tomreynyou have 3,2 GB available on the disk where your /home directory and / directory are18:47
gofiothose snaps are killing me tomreyn18:48
tomreynthis should be sufficient to unpack18:48
tomreynignore those snaps for now.18:48
gofioyeap those 3.2G are the ones I used to download a windows iso that left me with only 200mb left for a while18:48
tomreynokay, trash the balena etcher you downloaded, my instructions were assuming you're not using linux.18:49
gofioto make things more difficult tomreyn I'm runing on spanish, so dunno the exact translations. I used "extract into" "extraer a" and keeps telling me there's no space, and can't copy the message18:50
gofioook tomreyn, thanks good wasn't on mobile data xD :-)18:51
tomreyngofio: the balena etcher you downloaded (which is the default offered for linux on their website) is not going to get you anywhere (without additional efforts which are not worth it)18:51
gofioI'll leave it in the usb for the moment, or move it to the other machine I still have kinda intact18:52
tomreyngofio: here's how you can write the xubuntu installer ISO to your usb stick: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu18:53
gofioty tomreyn18:53
gofiobtw is that for dual boot with windows tomreyn ?18:54
tomreyngofioany ubuntu destop installer can install next to windows18:54
gofioI could use one with 14.04 even in the machine I have with the hard disk gone, but it wasn't dual boot18:55
gofiook, I guess I did something wrong then18:55
ChetManlyso I am trying to use a seagate usb drive but it keeps mounting as readonly, but if I remount it as rw it enables the greyed out add folder icon in file explorer but still fails to write to the device. I rebooted to windows and chkdsk and it didnt help18:56
gofiothe 17.10 version I had no problems with, even letting it make the hard disk partition (which I read it wasn't the best thing but had issues making the partition from windows - the first time, second time I could manage to make the partition first from windows, but now that machine is not runing and is the one I'm trying to fix now)18:56
lotuspsychjeChetManly: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your device and share us the pastebin output please18:56
jcottoncan you write to it from Windows?18:57
qwebirc51503Hello all. I'm having trouble logging in to my computer from gui18:57
ChetManlyjcotton: never tried yet18:57
qwebirc51503Anyone care to help?18:58
jcottonbe more specific and someone might be able to18:59
tomreyn!details | hi qwebirc5150318:59
ubottuhi qwebirc51503: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.18:59
gofioI'm following the tutorial tomreyn but do u think having the usb stick partitioned will be an issue?18:59
ChetManlyjcotton: yes I can18:59
tomreyngofio: you will know when you completed step 419:00
qwebirc51503I'm using xubuntu 18.04. When I try to login it takes me back to the login screen19:00
tomreyngofio: but i assume it will just work19:01
gofiogreat, we'll see in a moment tomreyn :-D19:01
qwebirc51503When trying to login with startx I get "unable to write to xauthority" or something along those lines19:01
jcottontomreyn: is there a list of the bot's commands?19:01
jcottontried both !help and !commands in PM19:02
tomreynjcotton: ubottu.com19:02
gofiothese tutorials for dummies is what I need tomreyn xD :-)19:02
tomreyngofio: glad we agree ;-P19:02
qwebirc51503I can login with sudo startx but nothing else19:02
qwebirc51503I'm on my phone so I cant really show logs19:03
tomreynqwebirc51503: what led to this situation?19:03
lotuspsychje!brain > jcotton19:03
ubottujcotton, please see my private message19:03
ChetManlyjcotton: it wont eject properly in windows thou19:03
ChetManlykeeping saying its busy19:04
qwebirc51503Tomreyn: I believe it has something to do with the fact that I hard to hard shutdown with the power button on my last session19:04
gofiohehe, first (logical) issue tomreyn the iso I'm gonna use was in the same place the program is gonna burn it lol so I'm moving it somwhere else19:04
tomreynqwebirc51503: do you know which file systems you have, something non-default?19:05
qwebirc51503Tomreyn: I'm not sure what you are asking. I'm using Xubuntu 18.0419:05
tomreynqwebirc51503: okay, you'll be using the defaults. let's switch to a text terminal using ctl-alt-f319:06
tomreynqwebirc51503: once there, login19:06
gofioI've had some kinda same issues qwebirc51503 and after several trials it started well again. How many times have u tried to restart :?19:06
tomreynqwebirc51503: when you're logged in, run (withOUT sudo):  rm -r ~/.cache19:07
tomreynqwebirc51503: and tell me if it outputs anything.19:08
lotuspsychje!dmesg | ChetManly share some details please19:09
ubottuChetManly share some details please: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.19:09
tomreyngofio: yes that's not going to work, writing the iso contents to a storage which contains the file.19:09
qwebirc51503I've gotten "rm: descend into write protected directory '/home/joe/.cache/dconf?19:09
gofioI'm moving it from one partition to the other but it's 1.5g so it takes a while tomreyn19:10
tomreynqwebirc51503: yes19:10
tomreynqwebirc51503: it will probably print an error about being unable to remove this very directory, but thats ok19:10
qwebirc51503Also got remove write protected directory /home/joe/.cache/dconf?19:11
gofiogonna light up few candles tomreyn and pray that this works :-)19:11
tomreyngofio: not the very latest computer, hmm?19:11
gofiothis one I have I believe it's from 2008 tomreyn19:11
gofiobeen a while - original hard disk died long time ago, but here it is still19:12
tomreyngofio: oh my, even xubuntu may be too tough for this one.19:12
tomreynqwebirc51503: yes19:12
tomreynqwebirc51503: will fail, but at least it'll continue19:12
StupidBoyhello world19:12
tomreynkeep answering 'yes' if there are more prompts19:12
lotuspsychjewelcome StupidBoy19:12
tomreynhello StupidBoy19:12
lotuspsychjehow can we help you today StupidBoy19:13
qwebirc51503Lots of prompts. Now we have a gnome-software/odrs/chromium-browser.desktop.json19:13
gofioand did not mention, but I'm on a second screen tomaw lol as the screen from the laptop it goes on and off (could be power cable/adaptator related as it happened before) but to put things in perspective....19:13
tomreynqwebirc51503: <tomreyn> keep answering 'yes' if there are more prompts19:13
gofiooops sorry tomaw, meant tomreyn19:14
tomreynqwebirc51503: if this is getting annoying just ctrl-c to cancel and we can override those questions19:14
qwebirc51503Ok now got "cannot remove /home/joe/cache: directory not empty"19:15
tomawgofio: np!19:15
qwebirc51503And I'm back to being able to enter a command19:15
tomreynqwebirc51503: thats alright19:15
tomreynqwebirc51503: log out there now by pressing ctrl -d, and press ctrl-alt-f1 and try to login again19:16
lotuspsychje!zh | lhlbzz19:16
ubottulhlbzz: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw19:16
gofioand btw, if anybody knows somebody runing wordpress (dot org) only on linux...I'd be very much appreciated if u let me know :-)19:16
tomreynqwebirc51503: if it fails to login still, return by pressing ctrl-alt-f3 again and logging in19:16
lhlbzz?join #ubuntu-cn19:17
qwebirc51503Ok going to try and login agin19:17
tomreyn/join #ubuntu-cn19:17
qwebirc51503Still cannot login via gui :(19:18
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: wich graphics card do you have?19:18
qwebirc51503Couldnt tell you lol. How do I find out19:18
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: sudo lshw -C video19:18
tomreynqwebirc51503: bad luck, login again and we'll see about the graphics card.19:18
gofiohmmmm...it seems Startup Disk Creator does not recognize my two partitions in the usb and only shows the usb as just big one tomreyn :-/ so it tells me it can't do it19:19
tomreyngofio: it may be so that it "does not recognize my two partitions in the usb and only shows the usb as just big one", but this would not be why "it tells me it can't do it". what does it say exactly?19:20
qwebirc51503Display 0 says Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated graphics controller19:20
gofioagain, it says it in spanish tomreyn but more or ñess it says it could not burn the image in the disk19:21
tomreynstart saving for a new computer soon19:21
tomreyngofio: okay, you still have it running then?=19:21
gofioI'll try to put the image outside the usb, no matter is in different partitions and see if it's that tomreyn19:21
tomreyngofio: it is not19:22
gofioyeap still running19:22
tomreyngofio: open the file browser, see if it lists things you can 'eject' on the left19:22
gofiooh I mean it finished, but the machine is still running :-)19:23
gofioyeap it does19:23
gofioboth partitions are well in the file browser19:23
tomreynwhat finished?19:23
gofiomoving from one partition to the other (finished)19:23
tomreynoh, yes, you needed to finish this before you could write to the usb storage. that's obvious, i would think?19:24
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: do you have different kernel versions, we can boot test?19:24
tomreyngofio: using the usb creator utility will delete anything that is currently stored on the usb storage. so if the iso file was still on there it would get deleted. and because it doesn't want to do that, it would fail to do that.19:25
qwebirc51503I'm not sure how I could revert to an older kernel. I just did some software update yesterday that I think was a kernel19:25
gofionow back the iso from one partition of the usb to the desktop (will take some minutes) and then will try again with the creator tomreyn19:25
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: hold shift at boot to enter grub, then boot a previous kernel if there is one19:26
gofioI have one partition empty, let see if that helps, and the iso outside the usb19:26
qwebirc51503OK. Do I hold shift after bios or before?19:26
tomreynqwebirc51503: right after19:27
tomreyngofio: ok, sounds good.19:27
qwebirc51503Alright. One second. Will reply with update.19:27
gofiowell, it did not take that long. Fingers crossed now19:27
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: if you can, please let us know wich kernels are in your list aswell19:27
qwebirc51503Do I select "advanced options for ubuntu"?19:29
ioriaqwebirc51503,  yes19:29
gofiodon't wanna type while it's working but it looks like it's doing its thing tomreyn :thumbsup:19:30
qwebirc51503I've got 4.18.0-17-generic, 4.18.0-17-generic (recovery mode), and 4.18.0-15 generic and recovery19:31
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic bionic19:31
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB19:31
tomreyngofio: ok good19:31
tomreyn!info linux-image-generic-hwe bionic19:32
ubottuPackage linux-image-generic-hwe does not exist in bionic19:32
lotuspsychjeqwebirc51503: ok lets try a -15 as a test19:32
ioriaqwebirc51503,  if -17 has issues for you, try -1519:32
ioriaqwebirc51503,   -15 generic19:32
qwebirc51503Loading 1519:32
tomreyn!info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic19:32
ubottulinux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)19:32
qwebirc51503Let's see if this works.19:32
lotuspsychjetnx tomreyn19:32
qwebirc51503Still nothing. Will not let me login through GUI19:33
ioriaqwebirc51503,  i'd try nomodeset19:33
qwebirc51503Ioria: explain please19:34
ioria!nomodeset | qwebirc5150319:34
ubottuqwebirc51503: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:34
ioriaqwebirc51503, can you login in console tty ?19:34
gofiosuccess tomreyn, hopefully now i'd have a xubuntu 18.04 bootable pendrive, let see how it goes from here19:34
qwebirc51503Ioria: I am not sure with how to login with tty19:35
qwebirc51503Ioria: I can login with sudo startx but not user startx19:35
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ioriaqwebirc51503, ctrl+alt+f319:35
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: does that mean we can online battle now?19:35
OerHekslotuspsychje, yes19:36
lotuspsychje: )19:36
tomreyngofio: good. use the *temporary* boot device override of your mainboard firmware ("BIOS") to boot off this USB stick. usually you press some F key after power on to do that. do not "enter BIOS" and permanenty change the boot device order.19:36
ioriaqwebirc51503, login as your user (not root) and paste     ls -al ~/  | nc termbin.com 999919:36
gofiohehe yeap now I can understand the creator does not care about partitions tomreyn as it seems it erased everything it was in there no matter how many partitions there were. And so it went away the 3g windows iso I also had that took ages to download lol. If this works I don't care though19:37
gofioyeap I change it many times that boot order tomreyn let see how it goes19:38
tomreyngofio: i told you it would overwrite everythgin stored there. twice.19:38
qwebirc51503Ioria: I get https://termbin.com/e4st as a return19:38
gofioI know I know tomreyn but I wondered what would happen with the partitions19:38
tomreyngofio: partitions are a form of data on a storage.19:39
gofionow I know it does not care aboutpartitions, it takes the usb as a whole19:39
ioriaqwebirc51503,  sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Xauthority   and do the dame for  .ICEauthority19:39
tomreyngofio: that's right19:39
gofioI can download the other iso any time. Although 3gs, wow19:40
ioriaqwebirc51503,  dame = same19:40
qwebirc51503Do I replace "$USER:$USER" with "$joe:$joe" since my user is joe?19:40
ioriaqwebirc51503,  sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Xauthority19:40
ioriaqwebirc51503,  as i wrote it19:41
lhlbzzgoodnight everbody19:41
gofiogreat tomreyn, first try, one of the laptops I have fd up it opens the grub or gui or however it's called right away, and already doing its thing19:41
gofionext gonna try it with the laptop it got a hard disk failure19:42
ioriaqwebirc51503,  after ,   sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.ICEauthority19:42
qwebirc51503Ioria: issued both commands19:42
qwebirc51503Ioria: what now?19:42
ioriaqwebirc51503,  sudo rm -rif ~/.dbus19:42
gofiook, got xubuntu 18.04 runing tomreyn in one computer. It looks nice, and blue :-)19:42
qwebirc51503Ioria: done19:42
ioriaqwebirc51503,  sudo rm -rif ~/.gvfs19:43
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qwebirc51503Ioria: done19:43
ioriaqwebirc51503,  paste again     ls -al ~/  | nc termbin.com 999919:43
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qwebirc51503Ioria: what do I paste again? I've done all the commands19:44
gofioit always can get worse though19:44
ioriaqwebirc51503,  paste again     ls -al ~/  | nc termbin.com 999919:44
qwebirc51503Ioria: it returns https://termbin.com/ktxf19:45
daxtomreyn: ty, sorted19:45
gofiok, gonna see if it works in the other computer and later on will focus on the windows boot repair tomreyn. Thank u so much!19:45
ioriaqwebirc51503, ok,  sudo service lightdm restart19:45
tomreyndax: not really19:45
daxtomreyn: it got K-Lined, and its new incarnation is about to be too19:46
tomreynthank you19:46
qwebirc51503Ioria: IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!19:46
ioriaqwebirc51503, good boy19:47
tomreyngofio: you'Re welcome, good luck!19:47
qwebirc51503ioria: will I have problems with this in the future?19:47
ioriaqwebirc51503, not if stopusing sudo startx19:47
ioriaqwebirc51503, not if stop using sudo startx19:47
qwebirc51503So I should stop using sudo startx right?19:47
ioriaqwebirc51503, sudo startx   is a very bad thingon ubuntu19:48
tomreynqwebirc51503: *never* start X as root19:48
tomreynqwebirc51503: also dont use startx anymore.19:48
ChetManlyjcotton: write caching...19:48
qwebirc51503ioria: I owe you one19:48
ioriaqwebirc51503, no problem19:48
gofioshuting down first computer, checked the windows files it's all in there. Now gonna try with the other computer is got the hard disk either dead or near to. So far so good tomreyn!19:49
James_EppHi, can anyone offer some advice for troubleshooting crontabs? I'm a student and not sure where I'm going wrong. My (user) crontab entry is in the paste. If I "time travel" with the date command in the paste to just before the command is to execute, the command doesn't work. Does time traveling like this not work at all? I'll note my network is disconnected, no NTP to worry about. https://bpaste.net/show/caead061857519:50
qwebirc51503ioria: will I have problems with this if I restart the computer?19:50
ioriaqwebirc51503, i don't think so ...19:51
gofionot sure if I'll can but I'll switch hard disks if I can so at least instead of two half laptops I can have almost one tomreyn :-D19:51
qwebirc51503ioria: OK. If I do, I'll just get back on here lol19:51
ioriaqwebirc51503, ok19:51
qwebirc51503Ioria: u da man. Or woman, idk lol19:51
ioriaqwebirc51503, lol19:51
lotuspsychje!cron | James_Epp start here19:52
ubottuJames_Epp start here: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto19:52
ioriaqwebirc51503, for the record your card brings a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/172463919:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1724639 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bug in Kernel 4.13 : Intel Mobile Graphics 945 shows 80 % black screen" [Medium,Confirmed]19:53
gofiooh yes tomreyn, also working in the laptop with no (aparently) hard disk! (and no keyboard lol working on a bluetooth one - now also switching from one laptop to the other as both are HP but conections are missplaced) oooh boy, the walking dead are baack :-D19:55
tomreyngofio: it's sufficient to just ask new questions here (and report context then) when you run into more ubuntu issues. we keep this channel strictly to support Q&A really. Thanks, and good luck!19:57
James_Epplotuspsychje: Unfortunately I don't see any good troubleshooting advice in that article.19:57
gofiogonna have more questions coming I'm afraid :-D19:57
gofiowhere should I ask about the windows boot repair from xubuntu tomreyn :?19:58
OerHeksgofio, "windows" boot repair? in ##windows i guess., with your windows iso20:01
tomreyngofio: for anything of this procedure which is about windows, you could ask in ##windows (yes, 2 x '#'), for anything relating to ubuntu, you can ask here.20:01
gofiobut I'd have to do it from ubuntu20:01
gofiobut that's a good starting point OerHeks thanks!20:02
lotuspsychjeJames_Epp: if volunteers have ideas they will answer you, if not try again repeating your issue once in a while okay?20:03
gofioI'm trying to straight install ubuntu in the laptop is got the hard disk fkd see what happens20:03
James_EppI will, thanks lotuspsychje20:03
gofioin the type of configuration for xubuntu 18.04 (translating from spanish) I have three choices being the first to erase evrything (which I wont take) what's the best one?20:08
gofiowhen installing the 17.10 I believe took the "other options", but I wasn't in a support chat back then20:09
gofiothe least steps back the better20:09
gofiomost proll it's gonna fail anyways cuz of the hard disk, but anyways20:10
jeremy31gofio, do you want to replace the 17.10 partition with 18.04?20:10
gofiono no, straight into 18.04, no 17.10. 17.10 is the machine I'm typing into right now, the 18.04 is another laptop I have with a recent hard disk failure20:11
jeremy31gofio, is 18.04 the only OS on the other laptop?20:11
gofioand I'm in that window jeremy31  u know, where anything I do might have no way back u know20:12
gofionop, it says it recognizes more jeremy3120:12
James_Eppgofio: have you taken a backup yet?20:12
gofioand as matter of fact I want to have a dual boot in all machines20:12
gofionot really James_Epp the hard disk I'm afraid is toasted20:12
JayDoubleuwhen will ubuntu make python3 default ?20:13
gofiowhen I tried with another flash drives and ubuntu 14.04 still could open the windows files but recently i could not - still tells there's a hard disk, but it does not open it anymore - and several bios and other HP tools for diagnosis it told me had a fast std failure20:14
OerHeksJayDoubleu, i guess it is already in 18.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Other_base_system_changes_since_16.04_LTS20:15
JayDoubleuOerHeks: im on 19.04 and python still points to python 220:15
gofioI'm gonna go for the "other options" jeremy31 (most of my problems have always come from not really knowing what I was doing at this step)20:16
JayDoubleuhmm I guess that if they dont include it by default then they dont rely on it so its easy to swtich to python3 unlike fedora which uses yum and some core stuff which is written in python20:16
jeremy31gofio, the more you mess with that drive the less chance you have to recover anything from it20:17
FreeBDSMmay I safely use gparted to grow my home partition on the disk?20:17
OerHeksno, is is cruftfrom an upgrade i guess, python2 2.7 is optional20:17
FreeBDSMI have unallocated space on the disk20:17
FreeBDSMright after that partition20:17
OerHeks!info python2 disco20:17
ubottupython2 (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (Python2 version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.16-1 (disco), package size 25 kB, installed size 136 kB20:17
jeremy31FreeBDSM: back up first as there are some risks20:18
OerHeksFreeBDSM, sure, growing is possible and safe. making smaller is not possible without live iso20:18
FreeBDSMjeremy31: I don't have place to backup to, other disks are ntfs, writing to ntfs is very error prone20:18
gofioI know jeremy31 that's why asking. Gonna see if I can exchange hard disks between the two laptops both HP pavilion, see if that works and so I'd leave the troubled HD rest for a while20:18
OerHeksyeah, no backup of your data, then your data is not important.20:18
jeremy31FreeBDSM: upload to cloud storage20:19
JayDoubleuok so having python pointing to python3 in bashrc is a bit ugly, is there a way to make python3 default ?20:19
gofiook wished I could share a screen shot. I went for the "other options" and xubuntu recognizes the sizes of all hard disks, types, and all that. Gee wished I knew what to do next20:20
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gofiothink I'll leave it alone for now anyways out of the 750G there's only 20 left and I don't think that's enough to install xubuntu, is it20:21
FreeBDSMso the prompt appears even if I attempt to create a new partition out from unallocated space on the disk, wtf?20:22
jeremy31FreeBDSM: Are you using the Live USB to change partition size?20:23
FreeBDSMjeremy31: no, my regular system boot20:23
gofiothat's what I'm doing to..20:23
jeremy31FreeBDSM: some changes are not allowed when the drive is mounted and you will need to use gparted from a Live ISO20:23
tomreyngofio: i could repeat what others told you: you really need backups, not na new installation on a broken storage (that's the last thing you need). your hard disk is probably about to fail. also moving it out of the computer and "letting it rest for a while" isn't going to improve it.20:24
FreeBDSMjeremy31: AFAIK there's no such a thing as a 'mounted drive', one may mount only partitions20:24
gofioI know tomreyn but meanwhile if the other laptop's hard disk fits in (which I still don't know) at least I'd have one laptop working, instead of two not working at all u know20:25
jeremy31FreeBDSM: It is still mounted20:25
tomreyngofio: yes, and you can install xubuntu to a working hard disk. https://xubuntu.org/requirements/20:26
gofiothe laptop with the hard disk working (but winodws not booting since I messed up with this very same step when trying with the 14.04) the screen-cover it's broken at the hinge, u know, gotta replace it anyways and at the same time clean the fans and so on, and so the screen just goes white as soon as u touch it, thus is not operative until I buy the replacement. While the other laptop has no hard disk, but the structure is solid20:28
gofiogood thing though is that xubuntu is working on both20:29
gofiobad thing is (or at least still dunno why) saving profiles when leaving the live sesion I still didn't get to that, and it's really a pain havin to put wifi pass everytime, and all the rest20:30
FreeBDSMhow to list partitions UUIDs?20:30
gofiostill dunno how I meant20:30
FreeBDSMwhat's better to specify in fstab: UUIDs or /deb/sdb3?20:31
jeremy31FreeBDSM: sudo blkid20:31
jeremy31UUID is preferred in /etc/fstab FreeBDSM20:31
FreeBDSMwhy's there no /dev/mapper/ path for my partitions?20:33
tmuwaHas somebody already tried to install mysql-workbench in ubuntu 19?20:34
FreeBDSMmysql workbench is a piece of shit20:34
gofiobtw, anybody knows if there is any specific ubuntu english/spanish kinda dictionary?20:34
tmuwaThen tell me a better alternative FreeBDSM20:36
FreeBDSMtmuwa: I haven't found one. I've only found out that mysql workbench is a buggy and crashy piece of shit and that HeidiSQL works fine via wine20:38
FreeBDSMI probably wouldn't install wine just for an SQL client20:38
tmuwaFor me it has always been the other way round20:38
FreeBDSMbut I have wine anyways20:38
FreeBDSMwell, mysql workbench is defacto buggy and crashy20:39
FreeBDSMwhat's ubuntu's alternative to 'wheel' group? sudo?20:43
gofioalready have the libraries so... https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html.en Anyways. Whatever20:43
benharrisudo group20:43
hugottythe mysql  CLI is pretty darn good if you ask me20:50
PharaohHi! Anyone has an idea on the broken desktop shortcuts in 19.04? Also, my 1801 -> 19.04 upgrade seems broken. The updater said it will revert changes but now I have 19.04. Any clue?20:51
tmuwahugotty: Not if you have to deal with rubbish "naturally grown" databases ;-)20:53
tomreynPharaoh: what's "1801"?20:54
Pharaohtomreyn: typo. My apologies! It is 18.1020:54
MrElendigFreeBDSM: sd* are not persistent20:55
tomreynPharaoh: chances are you had a bunch of PPA packages / (or even worse) versions installed when you started the upgrade20:55
MrElendigFreeBDSM: also lsblk is generally nicer than blkid20:56
tomreynPharaoh: that's how you make upgrades break anyways.20:56
MrElendigFreeBDSM: findmnt if it is already mounted20:56
Pharaohtomreyn: I never had this kind of an issue with an upgrade in the last 3 years. I did a fresh install before that!20:57
tomreynPharaoh: if you'd like to look into how to clean this up, we'll need some command output from you. for starters:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)20:57
kinghatcan i not just take an ssh key to another system and have it work? or maybe im missing a setup step as well.20:57
Pharaohtomreyn: thank you. let me try that.20:57
MrElendigkinghat: should work fine20:58
hugottytmuwa: Haha you have a point there. Now that I think about it, my usual solition in such scenarios is just to use good ol' phpmyadmin. Very simple and stable web interface. It's even in the repos if I'm not mistaken.20:58
BigBrothyris there a way to get middle-click auto-scrolling?20:58
MrElendigkinghat: are you trying to copy the public or the private key though?20:58
tomreynkinghat: file and directory (.ssh) ownership, permissions (file and .ssh)20:58
MrElendigBigBrothyr: that is a per application thing20:58
MrElendigBigBrothyr: firefox supports it, not many other apps does20:59
tomreyn!chat | hugotty + tmuwa20:59
ubottuhugotty + tmuwa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:59
BigBrothyrMrElendig, oh. kind of seems like all browsers for windows supports it.20:59
Pharaohtomreyn: https://termbin.com/jtgr  . I had an error message stating 5.0.xxx kernel could not be installed but it is there21:00
Pharaohtomreyn: that was during the upgrade process21:00
kinghatMrElendig/tomreyn: ya i just copy pasted from host to guest vm.21:01
kinghatpermissions look that same on each system:  https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/a9eee18efbcd2f48/Screenshot--04-21-2019--16-02-41.png21:02
MrElendigwhat is the error?21:05
tomreynPharaoh: thanks, and sorry, got distracted. now: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog21:06
MrElendigtry -i, and if it still fails, -vvv21:06
kinghatis it because its not a default key name? or not added to agent?21:07
MrElendigkinghat: .ssh has to be 700, keys should be 60021:07
Pharaohtomreyn: thank you!21:07
Pugabytehi all; trying to boot up my ubuntu 18.10 desktop yesterday, ran into some issues. The screen will turn purple, then black, and just hang. no text shown on the screen or anything. since i wasnt using it, i let it sit overnight, woke up to no change. ive tried multiple reboots, all the same. ive run into this before but it usually sorts it self out21:08
Pugabyteafter the 3rd or 4th reboot. additionally, when i hit the power button (not holding), the ubuntu shutdown screen comes up, with the 5 orange/white dot loading bar and ubuntu logo. ive tried following an askubuntu.com thread to enable nomodset, but it did not help. any next steps i can take? (note: im not experienced with ubuntu outside of its norma21:08
Pugabytel runtime; i dont know where to look when its in a state like this)21:08
MrElendigalso namei -m path/to/key is nicer than a screenshot of gui dialogs21:08
Pharaohtomreyn: https://termbin.com/gzbj21:09
MrElendigor better, -l21:09
tomreynPharaoh: see what you just posted, does this explain enough what needs to be done (the lines on top)?21:10
kinghatMrElendig: https://hasteb.in/zopopova.nginx21:10
tomreynPharaoh: this isn't critical, and you can do it later, but it's something you should tend to.21:11
kinghatMrElendig: https://hasteb.in/fodehoqe.lua21:11
Pharaohtomreyn: Yes. Should I manually remove redundant config or is there a tool. Or, can I wait for the next updates and expect that to fix it?21:11
gofioI know it's not the place and sorry for that, but just to let u know tomreyn about the hard disks, already exchanged them and fit perfectly, and running xubuntu from the pend drive. Point is, by exchanging the hard disks, will also let me know if the failure comes from cable conections and so on, as the fast self check diagnosys pointed out it could be one of the reasons. eom :-) ty - which I'm seeing right now I'm afraid aint gonna be the case. Anyways... :-)21:13
tomreynPharaoh: apt update'ing will not change the apt configuration, which this is about. you'll need to handle it manually. so the disco-partner apt repository is configured in two locations, line 43 of /etc/apt/sources.list and line 4 of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disco-partner.list - I would keep the latter as it is and remove those lines from the former (but not the whole file)21:14
MrElendigdid -i help?21:15
OerHeksdisco-proposed ..21:15
OerHeksis this standard enabled?21:15
Pharaohtomreyn: Thank you. I will fix it.21:15
tomreynOerHeks: i assume not so21:16
tomreynPharaoh: this said, there IS a graphical utility which will touch one of these two locations, and i'm not sure which21:17
Pharaohtoreyn: I will figure it out, thanks again!21:17
tomreynPharaoh: i always forget the name of this software, got it now: software-properties-gtk21:19
Pharaohtoreyn: Ok. Thank you so  much21:19
tomreynyou'Re welcome21:20
tomreynPharaoh: so once that's done, i suggest you run the same series of commands again:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog21:22
tomreynPharaoh:  and after that:   ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported | nc termbin.com 999921:22
rebabXFCE panel doesn't start automatically how do I fix it?21:24
MrElendigdepends on how you broke it21:25
MrElendiglooking in the autostart settings would be a start21:25
vimar rebab try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfce4-panel21:25
MrElendigI assume it does show up if you start it by hand21:26
rebabWell, "CTRL+ALT+F1" and "CTRL+ALT+F7" fixing this problem every reboot.21:27
rebabI don't know how...21:27
gofioook, here I am about to install xubuntu 18.04 from the flash drive into a hard disk that already has its partition done from windows. Is there any link to a dummie like tutorial where it explains what is better from here on? Hard disk still does not boot from windows but I guess i'll be able to focus on that later, isn't it. Thanks in advance21:27
vimarrebab: eventually: sudo apt-get -f install --reinstall xfce4-panel then LogOFF21:28
gofiothis is the same step where I was more than a month ago before I fkd it up so, my plan is not to repeat same mistakes21:28
rebabMrElendig: if it couns (ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7)21:29
gofioalso, can I make the instalation process in english and then change everything into spanish later? thanks21:29
rebabvimar: should i execute both?21:29
MrElendigrebab: sounds more like it is started but just hidden21:29
MrElendigcheck the panel settings for the hiding option?21:30
rebabMrElendig: How?21:30
MrElendigright click -> panel -> panel preferences o21:31
gofiohaving a look at this https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0 hope it's enough to not screw things up21:31
rebabMrElendig: hide panel = never21:31
tomreyngofio: you can select english for the installation and change your locale later, yes. on the "installation type" screen, do you see a "install ubuntu alongside windows" option?21:32
gofiofirst I see is "try ubuntu" alongside "install ubuntu" tomreyn21:33
gofioand haven't gone any further from there yet before I'm sure21:33
tomreyngofio: yes, choose install21:33
rebabI don't know why but switching fixes this problem. ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 works but I am tired of doing this.21:33
gofiok, done21:33
gofioand next is the language so I chose english21:33
tomreynok, and now you're at this screen, right? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop21:34
gofioand connecting to the wifi as we speak21:34
tomreynyes connect wifi21:34
gofionot there yet, yeap, conecting wifi, pass, etc21:35
gofiok, connected, now checking the install third-party software21:36
tomreyngofio: oh did you set the keyboard layout to match yours thopuogh?21:36
tomreynyou should nto have left that set to english if you have a spanish one21:36
gofioyeap that's the thing tomreyn , keyboard then is a mess, but if I can change it later on no worries, i rather that than having to be translating here without knowing21:37
gofiok, here I am now at THE POINT. Installation type...21:38
gofiodouble drum...21:38
tomreyngofio: there are two settings it asks oyu about: one is the language to use during the installation process (choose english), the other is the keyboard layout to use (choose spanish)21:38
gofioook tomreyn then I'm going back before going further21:39
gofiommmmhh....I'd say it does not lt me that option21:40
gofioif I choose spanish in the keyboard it goes into spanish the other side as well21:40
tomreynand you can no longer change it on the 2nd screen?21:40
gofioI'm doing the auto detect let see21:41
tomreynhmm maybe the xubuntu installer is different than what i see here, i'm using the ubuntu one21:41
gofioboth screens seem to go hand in hand tomreyn21:41
gofioI've done the auto detect and it says spanish21:41
tomreynyes, since your keyboard is spanish, you should use the spanish keyboard input21:42
tomreyni'll download the xubuntu installer quickly21:42
tomreyn19.04, right?21:42
tomreynor was it 18.04?21:43
gofioI knew it wasn't just cuz I wanted it. As matter of fact this laptop I'm making the install into now (with the other's laptop hard disk) does not have keyboard cuz when I bought it after I broke the previous one, I bought it in england and missed that part lol so could not use the keyboard had to return it and here I am without a keyboard on the laptop and a usb one21:43
gofioalready made enoughs tests :-D21:44
gofiofor the 19 one21:44
tomreynoh 18.04 LTS, okay, another download then21:45
gofiok, installation type...something else...21:45
gofioyeap I believe is something like xubuntu 18.04.2 could it be?21:45
gofiolayout is very nice, though I hope Ican get back to the gnome from ubuntu 17.10 as I had it21:46
gofiok, now is checking for hard disks21:46
rebabMrElendig: Yes, you're right. It is like hidden. But I can click anything on start. It's not just the panel. Only switching GUI -> Terminal -> GUI fixes this for now. Do you have any suggestion?21:46
rebabMrElendig: *I can't click anything sorry.21:47
gofiohopefully will show the partition already made back in the day21:47
gofiocan I paste an image of the screen tomreyn ?21:47
gofioi mean a link to the image21:48
tomreyngofio: the installation language is chosen on the first screen where you also have the choice between "try xubuntu" and "install xubuntu". by directly clicking on "install xubuntu" you chose english, too, which is fine.21:48
gofioso u can see what I see cuz this part of the process is really the one I need support, indeed21:48
tomreyngofio: on the next screen you set up your keyboard layout as spanish, if i got you right, and that's fine, too.21:48
gofioyeap so far installation is going in english, which is great21:49
tomreyngofio: i am doing the ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS amd64 installation here as well now.21:49
gofiohehe, syncronized21:49
tomreyngofio: when you need to post an image, use imgur.com and post the web address here afterwards21:49
gofiothis part is the one that really bugs me off the installation type21:50
gofiook, so I'm gonna take a shot21:50
tomreynhi koality_21:51
koality_I've been reading up on this for a while, but permissions does "other" have for -rwsr-s--S. I think owner has read/write/execute, group has read/write, but not so sure about last one.21:51
tomreyn!man | this is how you can look such things up, koality_21:53
ubottuthis is how you can look such things up, koality_: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/21:53
MrElendigkoality_: read up on suid21:54
tomreynkoality_: those "man pages" are also available online at https://manpages.ubuntu.com21:54
koality_I'm aware about man pages, but thanks. I did, suid gives permissions of the owner to all, but I'm confused as to why there's "S" in the last bit21:55
koality_couldn't find any source that mentions what an S in the other/world bitfield does21:56
* MrElendig just did google "ls -l capital S" and got multiple relevant hits22:02
OerHeks2nd  s (setgid bit)22:02
tomreynkoality_: you can also use the getfacl command to get a more "human friendly" description22:03
tomreyngofio: what happened to you?22:03
tomreyni hope that "shot" referred to taking a photo?22:03
OerHeksThe capital S indicates the file has a setuid bit set but is not executable22:04
gofiohaha sorryyyy this is taking longer than I had expected. I have to take the picture with a camera and usually not having trouble with the bluetooth from the phone tothe laptop but right now it is, so have to take the pic with a camera...insert the flash...open shotwell.....22:04
gofiowait till all the 8g of the flash drive open since it's the last pic...export it...uploaded...and finally will paste the link in a few moments lol #ohboy22:05
tomreyngofio: you can also just take screenshots on the live system22:05
gofiobefore installing tomreyn  :?22:06
tomreyngofio: well, let's discuss this another time, keep going+22:06
gofioI'm half way done already so it wont take much longer. Thanks for being there!22:06
gofioI'm using now more imgbb to upload images, but it's the same. Uploading...22:08
gofioI shoot in .nef format which is Nikon propietary and that's one of the reasons linux still I can't use it in full...22:09
MrElendigthere are nef conversion tools that works with almost all nikon camers22:10
MrElendigalso, you could not use nef :p22:10
gofiohere it is tomreyn https://i.imgur.com/6ZUl2kW.jpg22:11
tomreyngofio: you skipped a screen there22:11
gofiowhere it says "windows recovery environment" I believe that's the partition I made from within windows22:11
koality_thanks, so I've read up on this more. Please let me know if this statement is correct: "-rwsr-s--S 1 owner group..." means owner has rwx permissions, group has rx permissions (but inherits w from owner on execution), and other has no permissions (but inherits rwx on execution).22:11
gofioposted the direct link22:11
tomreyngofio: what about this one? https://i.imgur.com/7yj09a4.png22:12
tomreyngofio: yours should have said something about windows on top22:12
gofioindeed MrElendig and shotwell does a great job, by viewnx from nikon has propietary things that honestly no other software I've seen does equal22:12
MrElendiglike not working even on windows22:13
* MrElendig has a d710022:13
gofiosure still dunno how to manage it well, but I'm finding lots of trouble with it (and many other image related things) but oh well, learning...22:13
gofiowhat software do u use for the d7100 MrElendig in ubuntu I mean22:14
FreeBDSMhow to backup properly?22:14
FreeBDSMhow to sync 2 folders?22:14
FreeBDSMI mean reliably22:14
MrElendigFreeBDSM: 3-2-1 and restic/borg/similar22:14
gofioas viewer MrElendig22:14
MrElendiggofio: 99% of the work ends up being done in darktable usually22:14
FreeBDSMMrElendig: what's 3-2-1? is it an util's name?22:15
MrElendigFreeBDSM: 3 copies total, two local and one remote22:15
MrElendigaka your working copy, a local backup and a remote backup22:15
gofiooh tomreyn I guess that's cuz of the not booting windows thing? dunno, I'll make a screen shot of the previous window yeap, thanks for leting me know22:15
MrElendigFreeBDSM: having a backup in your home doesn't help much when the house burns down after all22:16
tomreyngofio: okay, see you in an hour22:16
gofiothanks MrElendig22:16
FreeBDSMMrElendig: that's a smart approach, thank you.22:16
MrElendigarguably there are better backup schemes than 3-2-1, but it works and is easy22:16
MrElendigand fairly inexpensive22:17
gofiolol yeap tomreyn :-D22:17
ClaudiaHello everyone.. im from Argentina22:17
FreeBDSMMrElendig: though it's quite hard to find a remote place to store data :/22:17
MrElendigthere are multiple variants of 3-2-1 too though22:17
MrElendigFreeBDSM: it's not22:18
FreeBDSMI don't really trust servers not owned by me22:18
MrElendigFreeBDSM: that is what encryption is for22:18
FreeBDSMand encrypting everything before an upload may take long time22:18
MrElendigboth restic and borg will encrypt locally before you transmit22:18
MrElendigFreeBDSM: not really, unless you have a gigabit pipe, your network connection is going to be the limiting factor, not the encryption overhead22:19
FreeBDSMMrElendig: how can you be sure your encryption is good if you use the same passphrase for all your data?22:19
MrElendigFreeBDSM: remember: you can use hardware acceleration for the encryption these days22:19
MrElendigFreeBDSM: ?22:20
FreeBDSMMrElendig: if you encrypt gigabytes of data using just a 20 char long pass-phrase - is it really secure?22:21
MrElendigif your password doesn't suck, you keep it safe, and you use a proven encryption, yes22:21
MrElendigyou can also use keys and/or two factor auth22:21
MrElendiginstead of just a plain password22:22
FreeBDSMthat's essentially the same thing, just a bit longer and stored as a file22:22
MrElendignot quite22:23
gofiok, here it is tomreyn https://i.imgur.com/XY1wegN.jpg22:25
gofioless than 10 minutes! :-D22:25
HelpMe849how to hibernate in ubuntu? i have 16 gb ram and 20 gb swap partition22:26
tomreyngofio: okay, "windows is not mentioned there, the first option it lists is 'erase disk and install xubuntu'" would have worked, too22:26
tomreyngofio: but this is a bit better, i agree.22:26
tomreyngofio: so it didn't detect an existing windows installation#22:26
MrElendigHelpMe849: systemctl hibernate should work out of the box22:26
tomreyngofio: did you say you have an idea why this may be?22:27
MrElendigHelpMe849: but then again, s2d is horribly unreliable22:27
ibrumfieldanyone getting stutters occasionally during normal use? like a 2 sec freeze?22:27
gofiobut it says there are other OS INSTALLED, ISN't it tomreyn ? sorry caps22:27
gofio"multiple operating systems" it says22:27
tomreyngofio: well, yes, but that's not the ssame as explicitly naming one.22:28
tomreynsuch as on the screen i posted22:28
gofioand after I went thru this same process with a pendrive with ubuntu 14.04 I could not boot with windows anymore tomreyn, so I guess something really bad I did then22:28
HelpMe849i did systemctl hibernate and it just reboots fresh22:28
gofioyeap i guess it does not name it cuz it's corrupted af22:29
HelpMe849like actually restarts doesnt shut off22:29
HelpMe849frik i gave myself  a 20 gb swap for no reason22:29
HelpMe849gonna be a pain to give space to /home22:29
gofioMy intention was to install it inthat 70g partition tomreyn22:29
gofioI'm currently running on a 40g partition so22:30
gofioI cannot erase this hard disk in full22:31
tomreyngofio: this is what it looks like when xubuntu 18.04.2 amd64 (booted in BIOS mode) detects an existing windows installation:  https://i.imgur.com/p59AgVp.png22:31
gofioyeap, that's what it did when I tried to install the 14.04 before I messed up big time22:32
tomreyngofio: so you're saying the ubuntu installation target contains a corrupted windows installation. why don't you fix that before you try to install ubuntu?22:32
gofioI think I left it without finishing cuz I wasn't sure, and afraid, and messed it up anyways22:32
gofiowell, that's why I am here tomreyn :-D to learn those things22:33
gofiothat's why been asking since start about the boot repair windows thingy ;-)22:33
gofiobut dunno in which order to do it22:33
gofioThought about installing first cuz of the layouts, it's a pain from the usb to be changing everything every time (dunno how to save the layouts from the usb yet)22:35
gofiospecially the wifi pass22:35
FreeBDSMMrElendig: is there a gui for borg/restic?22:35
tomreyngofio: you have a usb which contains a bootable xubuntu 18.04.2 amd64 live and installer system. and you started the installer, to create a persistent ubuntu installation. you other option is to start the live system, install software as needed and to try to repair your windows installation that way. there are also windows live systems to do so, but this is what they'd told you in ##windows (had you asked there).22:35
gofioif I could fix the windows booting first "easy" that'd be my best choice if I could, ofc22:36
MrElendigFreeBDSM: depending on your defenition of gui, yes22:36
catbeardboot with a cd/dvd and do a repair install22:36
gofioso what would u do tomreyn :?22:36
catbeardwindows cd/dvd rather22:36
tomreyngofio: so do what we told you some hours ago, join ##windows, ask how to fix your windows.22:36
gofiodon't have the cd catbeard :-(22:37
catbeardthere's a free iso for windows 1022:37
gofioI'll go there tomreyn but hope they don't tell me I'm trying to fix windows FROM ubuntu...22:37
tomreynthey will, if that's the only option you'll state you have.22:38
gofioit's windows 7 64 bit catbeard, if u know of any nice link let me know please, I have tried a few already without success22:38
gofiogiven most windows solutions are given for windows users22:38
catbeardhold on i might22:39
gofiothanks catbeard22:39
gofiothough to me worst is left behind, at least now I can use the computer22:39
gofiowill try to install boot repair (since with ubuntu 17.10 had lot of problems with that program)22:40
tomreynso you made bad experiences with it and thus decide to use it again?22:41
gofioalso now I can access windows recovery partitions cuz already have seen them. Something Icould not do a few hours ago22:41
gofioI had the bad experiences with the 17.10, and read it was not only me, but now I have   18.04 tomreyn. Not the same, isn't it22:41
gofioj/ ##windows22:43
tomreynboot.repair isn't part of ubuntu, and i never used it.22:43
gofio00:43 -!- gofio entró a ##windows :-D22:44
MannyLNJHello. I am trying to use a Ubuntu Live USB top copy files from a Windows 10 system. I have a bash shell running as root. I issued the following command cp -r ./Windows_Drive/Users/markf/* ./Flash_Drive/markf/ and it is failing on most files with a  Input/output error how can I copy these files off?22:44
gofiok tomreyn :) let see if there's anybody in ##windows22:44
leftyfbMannyLNJ: sounds like your flash drive has failed22:45
OerHeksthe live usb is read only22:46
tomreynyou should not copy those files to the live usb you're running from22:46
leftyfbOerHeks: you wouldn't get I/O errors if it were read only22:46
tomreynbut to a different storage22:46
MannyLNJOerHeks:  I know that so I attached a second USB drive which has space22:46
tomreynso that one is apparently broken22:47
tomreyndo you have non flash non optical storage you could write to?22:47
leftyfbMannyLNJ: type: dmesg # that will give you additional info about the possibly bad drive22:48
tomreynalso the errors could also be about reading, not writing22:48
MannyLNJtomreyn:  I do not. I just have mutiple flash drives22:48
tomreynyes, we need more context, dmesg is good22:49
gofiowell they're giving me a troubleshooting link so I'll leave the xubuntu install for later and go live for the troubleshooting from the same machine tomreyn22:49
tomreynMannyLNJ: dmesg -t | nc termbin.com 999922:50
leftyfbMannyLNJ: open a terminal and type: ( lsblk ; mount ; dmesg -T ) | nc termbin.com 999922:50
MannyLNJtomreyn: https://termbin.com/zvs822:50
tomreyngofio: fine with me, good luck.22:50
gofio"00:47 <CptLuxx> but we do not support any kind of dual boot issues" tomreyn ;-) told ya... xD22:51
MannyLNJleftyfb: https://termbin.com/zg2722:51
devslashwhat port do I need to open on ubuntu for samba to work22:51
leftyfbMannyLNJ: you didn't properly unmount the original drive you had connected22:51
leftyfbdevslash: did you setup a firewall at all?22:52
devslashI did grep -i NETBIOS /etc/services and returned ports 137, 138 and 13922:52
devslashyes of course22:52
tomreyngofio: you dont have a dual boot issue, you have a windows boot issue.22:52
devslashim using ufw22:52
gofioyeap, that's also true tomreyn22:52
OerHeksgofio, there is no manual to fix your windows 7, than using the windows iso. after that, you can reinstall grub again, but for now your issue is beyond the scope of this channel.22:52
MannyLNJleftyfb: I unmounted it though gparted by chosing unmount. If I didn't unmount it how would I have been able to mount it to /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Windows_Drive22:53
Ricardo[m]Hey all! Just installed 19.04 (server) and I'm having some issues with SSL cert roots. Trying to wget download.docker.com/gpg (and some more) I'm getting issues about verifying the cert. Tried to download some more cert packages and triggering update-ca-certificates but I'm still not getting it... Ideas?22:54
leftyfbRicardo[m]: do you plan on upgrading the OS on this server every 9 months?22:54
gofiohow can I save layout changes in xubuntu 18.04 runing from a pendrive OerHeks :? is there a link or something where it explains :? hope that's within the scope :-)22:55
leftyfbRicardo[m]: also, use the docker available in 19.04. Do not install from their website.22:55
shibbolethlayout changes?22:55
devslashi set up samba but i cant access it from windows22:55
devslashcan anyone help me out22:56
OerHeksgofio, the live pendrive does not save anything, read only22:56
gofiowell, however it's said. Let say I plac the clock in the middle of the screen, above, for example22:56
leftyfbdevslash: you should look into setting up CIFS.22:56
gofiothat's what I was afraid of OerHeks , thanks22:57
Ricardo[m]leftyfb: not much of a fan of the upgrading part but that's besides the question. This is happening while trying to download stuff from github as well so I'm guessing there's some major misconfiguration on the cert store22:57
OerHeksRicardo[m], what docker guide do you follow?22:57
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Ricardo[m]I'm most likely going to revert just by seeing this but thought it might make sense to ask here before I do22:57
gofioso if I install now smuxi using that pendrive it'll be gone by next time I log in into xubuntu as well :'22:57
Ricardo[m]OerHeks: I'm running the kubespray ansible scripts22:58
MikeRLWhat do you guys think about this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/182575622:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825756 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Window snapping to corners via mouse" [Undecided,New]22:58
leftyfbRicardo[m]: there's nothing wrong with Ubuntu. Also, download.docker.com/gpg is not a valid URL22:58
MikeRLI'm surprised nobody has reported anything similar yet...22:58
MikeRLI tried searching for existing bugs and found nada.22:58
devslashleftyfb, isnt that used for accessing a windows share from linux ?22:58
leftyfbMikeRL: The latest versions of stick ubuntu do not run compiz22:58
leftyfbdevslash: it is the latest supported protocol for Windows fileshares22:59
MikeRLWait, then what package handles window snapping?22:59
leftyfbMikeRL: what version of ubuntu are you running?22:59
Ricardo[m]leftyfb: sorry, it was https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/gpg22:59
MikeRLI honetly was confused on that one. Disco.22:59
leftyfbRicardo[m]: it downloads fine for me23:00
Ricardo[m]leftyfb: On 19.04 server?23:00
FreeBDSMwhat's better? restic or borgbackup?23:01
leftyfbRicardo[m]: Ubuntu 19.04 server within an container, yes23:01
leftyfb!ot | FreeBDSM23:01
Ricardo[m]FreeBDSM: have no experience with borgbackup but restic is pretty good23:01
ubottuFreeBDSM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:01
Ricardo[m]leftyfb: good idea, I'll have a look at what's the difference I have with the container versoin23:02
leftyfbRicardo[m]: I highly recommend using 18.04 LTS for your server and rely on supported apt or snap packages for your services. Not pulling down applications from github or vendor websites. Otherwise, you miss out on support here. 19.04 will be unsupported 9 months from now.23:03
MikeRL19.04 is good if you like bleeding edge. But I would not use that on a server.23:04
dyc3Hi, so I upgraded to 18.04 and my DNS stopped working23:04
OerHeksis ansible updated for 19.04?23:04
Ricardo[m]I just wanna evaluate if going with 5.0 will make any difference with a lot of kernel panics I usually have while running k8s loads, tbh I'm also not a fan of running something that will be unsupported that soon23:05
devslashleftyfb, i tried cifs but it doesnt work23:05
tomreyndevslash: now assume you're lefty and you got this "error description". how will you work with that?23:07
devslashI created a shared folder on Windows ran the command sudo mount -t cifs //MYSERVERIP/SHAREDNAME -o MYUSERNAME,vers=3.0,noperm LOCALMOUNTFOLDER23:07
tomreynokay, much better23:08
devslashwhat do you mean ? thats more than enough to know whats wrong23:08
devslashi get the error file not found23:08
devslashmount error: no such file or directory23:08
gofionagh tomreyn, the windows channel option does not work23:09
gofiothis is best I could get out of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-D23:09
gofiothing is problem started while trying to install ubuntu. But anyways23:10
dyc3Hi, so I upgraded to 18.04 and my DNS stopped working. Networking, otherwise, still works. I've tried reconnecting, rebooting, setting additional DNS servers in the NetworkManager GUI, and running dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf. Any ideas?23:10
gofiothink I'm gonna go try install xubuntu into the partition I have and se what happens tomreyn cuz at this point I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere23:11
tomreyndyc3: does   systemd-resolve --status  look as it should?23:12
MikeRLSo, does GNOME handle window management? gnome-shell to be exact?23:12
MikeRLJust need to describe my bug properly, and I'll be done.23:12
gofioI can't either run windows in the computer I'm typing in right now and have no issues with that. as long as I can keep using a computer. Anyways. Whatever23:12
tomreyngofio: there's no need to report on your progress here. when you have an ubuntu support question, you can ask.23:12
MikeRLAnd I'm referring to Ubuntu 19.04 in this case.23:13
Ricardo[m]Thanks for the help leftyfb, I'll go back to 18.0423:13
dyc3tomreyn: what should it look like?23:13
gofioI do have, but given it's a dual boot question is neither ubuntu nor windows23:13
gofioI'm trying to install ubuntu and my question is about this process23:13
tomreyndyc3: oh wait you said you're using network-manager right?23:14
tomreyndyc3: nmcli then23:14
FreeBDSMwhy does ubuntu's parted suck so much compared to, say, centos'es one?23:14
FreeBDSMit asks for start23:14
FreeBDSMand enter doesn't make it use some default value23:14
gofiotrial and error. AS usual, no biggy. We aint gonna survive anyways lol23:15
EriC^!persistance | gofio23:15
tomreynFreeBDSM: that's not a support question.23:15
EriC^!persistant | gofio23:15
ubottugofio: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:15
dyc3tomreyn: nmcli shows my campus' 2 DNS servers, so that appears to be working correctly23:15
tomreyndyc3: can you ping them?23:15
gofioit's been almost a 24 hour straight of persistence EriC^ yeap :-D thanks! :-)23:16
gofiothanks ubottu :-)23:16
dyc3tomreyn: i can ping both23:16
EriC^gofio: no i was queuing the bot to give you info on persistant live usbs23:16
unrecitedYou guys have never failed me as far as my (sometime off topic) questions derived from pure curiousity and learning..23:16
tomreyndyc3: do you have the 'dig' or 'host' commands available?23:17
gofioooh, hahaha thanks EriC^  :-D23:17
unrecitednow I'm having a real issue - and before I reformat and lose all the 3 months worth of stuff (I do have backups - nevertheless)23:17
dyc3tomreyn: yes, both23:17
EriC^np :D23:17
unrecitedI had a usb drive plugged in, and ubuntu froze...I dont know why I had a 'bad feeling' about it and proceeded but I just held the laptop power button and did a hard shut down23:17
unrecitedI indeed was in the middle of a transfer from system TO usb drive just backing up some stuff23:18
tomreyndyc3: pick a HOSTNAME you cannot resolve properly in an application and    dig HOSTNAME @ +short23:18
unrecitednow that I just typed that I JUST remembered right before I also did search my entire system and deleted 'node_modules' along with any reference of it (directory) because I was trying to cut time transfering23:18
tomreyndyc3: pick a HOSTNAME you cannot resolve properly in an application and    dig HOSTNAME @ +short23:19
unrecitedto shorten it up here (sorry) Im now in command line only recovery mode.. I get ONLY the greeting spins and spins23:19
dyc3tomreyn: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached23:19
tomreyndyc3: ^ sorry, had the wrong ip addres23:19
dyc3tomreyn: oh whoops23:19
gofioto install or not to install...that is the question...23:19
unrecitedthe system will no longer boot - I was thinking try the USB drive boot option? Boot from USB? but will that give me local access to what I already have just so I can back up?23:19
dyc3tomreyn: no output, exit code 023:19
unrecitedI hate to lose my place I finally had everything customized perfect lmao23:19
tomreyndyc3: now    dig HOSTNAME @UNIRESOLVER1 +short23:20
tomreyndyc3: ...where UNIRESOLVER1 is the first of the two resolvers of your university23:20
unrecitednot that that cant be redone... this would be my first technical battle with linux and I guess without them learning can not proceed - but its killing me what the hell I could have done? deleting node_modules surely can not result in a system ... loss? essentially.. ?23:20
dyc3tomreyn: successful resolution, exit code 023:21
leftyfbdevslash: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-access-files-network-devices-using-smbv1-windows-10   try this23:21
tomreyndyc3: systemctl status systemd-resolved.service 2>&1 | nc termbinc.om 999923:22
tomreyndyc3: omit the pipe etc. if you dont want to share it23:22
dyc3tomreyn: can you resolve termbinc.om for me? dig didn't give me anything23:25
tomreyndyc3: termbin.com is
dyc3tomreyn: all good https://termbin.com/qp5623:26
tomreyndyc3: now, instead of querying its "status", "restart" it23:27
dyc3tomreyn: ok, done23:27
dfkqnafter some update, my clock broke23:28
dfkqnnow the system thinks the hw clock are in utc23:28
dfkqnhow to fix that?23:28
tomreyndyc3: so can you resolve hostnames now?23:29
dyc3tomreyn: nope, still can't23:29
OerHeksdfkqn, sounds like you have dualboot with windows 10, that can give a conflict.23:29
dyc3tomreyn: its sooo strange23:29
tomreyndyc3: hmm, i'm a bit puzzled here. maybe review (or share) your system log (systemctl -b)23:30
dfkqn_it worked before23:30
gofiowhat's the equivalent key shortcut for paste as of ctrl+v while on the terminal :? if any23:30
tomreyndyc3: oh you can also    systemd-resolve --flush-caches23:31
dyc3tomreyn: systemctl doesnt have -b for me23:31
dyc3tomreyn: flush caches exited successfully, didn't fix it23:32
OerHeksjournalctl -b  i guess23:32
tomreyndyc3: journalctl -b, sorry23:32
tomreyni always mix those up23:32
tomreynthanks OerHeks23:32
boblamontis anyone familiar with the normalize program (normalize-audio)? it seems to do it's thing, it scans the files, then says it applies the adjustments, but the volume doesn't change and though the modification time changes, the file size stays identical which suggests it isn't changing them23:33
dyc3tomreyn: https://termbin.com/a1lc23:33
dfkqn_so how can I fix my time23:33
OerHeksdfkqn_, is this dualboot?23:33
tomreyndfkqn_: why not just set your hwclock to utc then?23:34
dfkqn_because that is very stupid23:34
tomreynenlighten us23:35
tomreyndyc3: i'm looking still, give me a minute23:36
dyc3tomreyn: np23:36
tomreyndyc3: could this be related to your docker installation?23:37
panorainAnyone know if 'cryptodan_mobile' is around ?23:37
dyc3tomreyn: I don't think so, I haven't really done anything with docker, but I installed it because I was meaning to learn how to use it23:38
krytarikpanorain: Trying to tab-complete the nick would indicate that to you.23:40
tomreyndyc3: your log is really full of errors, and not just about dns23:41
tomreyndyc3: and, doh, i missed that, you run a kernel from 201723:41
dyc3tomreyn: jesus really?23:42
tomreyndyc3: which ubuntu version is this?23:42
tomreynnc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)23:42
tomreyn<tomreyn> dyc3: termbin.com is
dyc3tomreyn: https://termbin.com/odlk23:43
tomreyndyc3: see for yourself23:43
tomreynubuntu 18.04 never had this kernel23:44
dyc3tomreyn: its recently upgraded23:44
tomreynnot this kernel23:44
dyc3tomreyn: i mean the ubuntu release23:44
tomreynls -l /boot23:44
dyc3tomreyn: i have a lot of packages that need to be updated23:45
tomreynmaybe you have current kernels but dont boot them23:45
dyc3tomreyn: i don't think thats the case: https://termbin.com/zice23:46
tomreyn!info linux-image-generic bionic23:46
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB23:46
tomreyn!info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic23:47
ubottulinux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)23:47
tomreynthose would be yourr choices23:47
Apachezuptime ?23:47
tomreynnot much, hours23:47
ApachezI meant dyc323:47
OerHeks-142 failed to upgrade23:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818723 in linux (Ubuntu) "package linux-image-4.4.0-142-generic 4.4.0-142.168 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Terminated)" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:47
dyc3tomreyn: should I set the ubuntu repo domains in my /etc/hosts and update my packages?23:48
OerHekswhat vm vendor is this?23:48
dyc3Apachez: uptime is 2 hours23:48
tomreyndyc3: hmm yes maybe that's the best way forward. if not a reinstall23:49
dyc3tomreyn: ok, ill give that a shot23:49
tomreynOerHeks: this is a gazelle 11 from system76, not a vm23:50
gofioso any installs (like LILO) i'M DOING NOW FROM THE XUBUNTU USB oh f caps, they wont stay when I come back isn't it OerHeks ?23:51
dfkqn_after some update, my system thinks my hw clock are in utc - how to fix that?23:52
tomreyndyc3: you could also         rm /etc/resolv.conf       and create a new file there with     nameserver
HackerpcsI upgrade my server instance since 16.04 to each version till the newest 19.04 with do-release-upgrade, is there any need for a clean install ever?23:52
OerHeksgofio, install lilo where?23:53
dyc3tomreyn: ive tried that before and it didn't work for some reason23:53
OerHeksubuntu uses grub2 by deafaut.23:53
tomreyndyc3: it'S a symbolic link by default, you may have missed this initially23:54
tomreyndyc3: if you rm it and create afile there instead, things should behave differently.23:54
tomreyndyc3: but ... that's with a current and patched system ;)23:54
gofioI'm running some commands in the terminal OerHeks supposedly installing some programs. I wonder when I reboot from the pendrive if they'll be there again when I reboot23:54
dyc3tomreyn: ahh ok. well ive already made the changes in my hosts file23:55
OerHeksgofio, i already answered that.23:55
gofioso the answer is no23:55
tomreyndyc3: if your storage is fast, hopefully upgrading wont take long on the campus23:55
dyc3tomreyn: yeah, SSD and sweet, sweet fast campus internet23:56
tomreyndyc3: also check your file systems didnt run full, this could cause a situation like this:   df -h23:56
tomreynalthough i guess i would have noticed reviewing the log23:57
dyc3tomreyn: I have 5.8 G left, should probably be fine23:57
tomreynHackerpcs: not strictly, though there can always be some leftovers after release upgrades23:59
tomreynand it can be a good idea to install fresh occasionally. for a productive server i'd do it every time.23:59
tomreynit's fast if it's automated23:59

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