[00:49] OvenWerks: What do you think about keeping the 18.04 backports open until July 2020? That gives people 3 months to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 rather than hard-cutting it off. [00:51] I think backports are different than cycle support and it is ok to keep backports going as long as it makes sense [00:52] The cycle support is for the ISO, but backports are part of the installer which applies to vanilla which has a longer support cycle. [00:53] Right, cycle support ended January, technically. [00:53] Because we released as non-LTS. [00:54] Yeah, but vanilla is LTS and installer supports vanilla [00:54] Basically, the public doesn't understand. Ubuntu Studio 18.04 is non-LTS, so that screams "avoid" to the LTS-only people. [00:54] So backports should do the same support. [00:55] Right, but flavor support is typically 3 years. Should we just go to 2021 on that then? [00:55] That would be fine I guess. [00:56] Okay. I guess I should make some sort of announcement to that effect. Probably stipulating "Only with the backports PPA." [00:56] Certainly I would prefer to see people using 18.04 till 20.04 than 16.04 [00:57] Right. 16.04 is EOL on Thursday, and I already have a post scheduled for the website on that. [01:01] By 18.04, systemd is reasonably fully in use and stable. [01:01] 14.04 is all upstart, 16.04 has some of each... [01:02] Right. === veremitz is now known as {{veremitz}} === {{veremitz}} is now known as veremitz