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BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:08 |
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* mamarley upgraded to Eoan. xD | 18:08 | |
valorie | mamarley: i imagine that upgrade isn't very big yet | 20:35 |
valorie | I guess this cycle we should seriously consider whether or not to change from ubiquity to cala | 20:38 |
valorie | tsimonq2, wxl -- how well is calamares working for you? | 20:38 |
valorie | would you advise us to make the change? | 20:39 |
wxl | pretty darn fantastic over all | 20:39 |
valorie | how many issues did you have getting it working? | 20:39 |
valorie | does it do OEM well now? | 20:39 |
wxl | one thing we're lacking is a good minimal install option or oem install.. and there's probably some really bizarre partition schemes it doesn't yet support (zfs) | 20:40 |
valorie | in my install testing, 100% of the bugs I filed were against ubiquity | 20:40 |
wxl | i think we'll tackle the minimal/oem bits relatively early this cycle | 20:40 |
wxl | most importantly i would say that it's really easy to understand calamares | 20:40 |
valorie | so if you were us, would you advise making the switch? | 20:40 |
wxl | i didn't have to pick through the code and try to figure it out.. it just made sense | 20:40 |
wxl | i jumped right in and was tweaking things to our needs without having to beg people for help | 20:40 |
wxl | upstream is easy to get a hold of and rather attentive | 20:41 |
valorie | ade is a completely cool guy | 20:41 |
wxl | there are some characters upstream (aren't there always?) but the head of the project is a gem | 20:41 |
wxl | ^^ that's ade | 20:41 |
valorie | yep | 20:41 |
wxl | he's super duper helpful | 20:41 |
valorie | he is | 20:41 |
wxl | they're extremely reponsive, i find, to bugs | 20:41 |
wxl | and that's my biggest gripe about ubiquity: it was near impossible to get help unless it affected the whole entire world and even then it wasn't necessarily easy. that and the code is a freaking nightmare | 20:42 |
valorie | I hear the neon team talk about OEM and that that was high on the cala job list | 20:42 |
wxl | it is. and i think tsimonq2 has some ideas to resolve that himself | 20:42 |
valorie | he's probably in school now | 20:43 |
wxl | i think he's got telegram nanodrones in his bloodstream thta are bridged to irc | 20:43 |
valorie | nevertheless paying attention in class is something I recommend | 20:46 |
valorie | lol | 20:46 |
valorie | oh, laundry | 20:46 |
valorie | bbiab | 20:46 |
wxl | valorie: how's the wayland session? | 20:54 |
valorie | hmmm, I've not tried it | 20:59 |
valorie | and I could, on the travel lappy | 20:59 |
valorie | will do so at LFNW! | 20:59 |
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valorie | I got a good question in #kubuntu -- why is the default in Konversation to use a different browser than KDE-set browser? | 22:50 |
valorie | and do we set that | 22:50 |
wxl | not knowing the answer, i bet you it keeps its own default | 22:50 |
wxl | like thunderbird does | 22:50 |
wxl | you can set default browsers every which way known to man, and thunderbird can still make up its own mind | 22:50 |
wxl | is this a new setting? | 22:51 |
wxl | s/setting/behavior? | 22:51 |
valorie | I don't think so | 22:52 |
mamarley | valorie: Indeed, not huge. | 22:52 |
valorie | but that doesn't mean we didn't change it in our packaging long time ago | 22:52 |
wxl | ugh i don't know how i managed to do this but the kubuntu iso i have is.... a lubuntu one. gimme a sec to zsync and i'll look | 22:54 |
valorie | lol | 22:54 |
valorie | good file naming! | 22:55 |
wxl | hey, they're both "cute" :) | 22:55 |
wxl | well to be fair whta i have in there is a daily and all the dailies are named the same | 22:55 |
valorie | ah | 22:57 |
wxl | in other news, chrom* sucks | 22:59 |
wxl | it can't make itself default browser if you're in an environment where the $BROWSER variable is set | 22:59 |
* wxl rolls his eyes so far in the back of his head they end up on the other side of the globe | 22:59 | |
valorie | that's a nice look for ya | 23:05 |
valorie | <3 | 23:05 |
wxl | valorie: at least in dingo under configure » behavior » general behavior there's a "use custom web browser" option though at least in live it defaults to unchecked | 23:14 |
valorie | I upgraded and haven't use FF for over a year I think | 23:15 |
wxl | if you check it, it defaults to using firefox | 23:16 |
valorie | right, but that's the default Kubuntu browser and the only one on the ISO | 23:16 |
valorie | however, it seems setting another browser to be the default doesn't change Konversation's setting | 23:17 |
wxl | hm let me play | 23:17 |
valorie | which seems counterintuitive | 23:18 |
wxl | hm | 23:32 |
wxl | can't make falkon default within it eh? | 23:32 |
valorie | we discussed doing so but the concensus seemed to be "not yet" | 23:35 |
valorie | we can talk about that again | 23:35 |
valorie | and naturally this is the time to do it | 23:35 |
valorie | falkon will have (hopefully) a or some GSoC students so it is an active project | 23:36 |
valorie | getting plugins is important | 23:36 |
wxl | hm don't even see anything in bugzilla about it | 23:37 |
wxl | https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&f0=OP&f1=OP&f2=product&f3=component&f4=alias&f5=short_desc&f7=content&f8=CP&f9=CP&j1=OR&o2=substring&o3=substring&o4=substring&o5=substring&o6=substring&o7=matches&product=Falkon&query_format=advanced&short_desc=default&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&v2=default&v3=default&v4=default&v5=de | 23:37 |
wxl | fault&v6=default&v7=%22default%22 | 23:37 |
wxl | sheesh | 23:38 |
wxl | well i don't want to use chrom* cuz its weird | 23:39 |
wxl | i'll grab opera | 23:39 |
wxl | afaik those are the only ones that have in-browser ways to change the default | 23:39 |
wxl | not even midori | 23:39 |
wxl | ok well can't confirm | 23:42 |
wxl | i installed opera, set it as default, opened konversation, typed out a link, clicked on it, it opened in opera | 23:43 |
wxl | xdg settings are all appropriately pointing at opera | 23:43 |
wxl | BROWSER isn't set | 23:43 |
valorie | interesting | 23:47 |
wxl | i'm trying to force falkon as default browser and it's getting me mad :) | 23:48 |
wxl | it seems that you HAvE to use "default applications" (and not just `xdg-settings set default-web-browser`) to get things to work. it appears to change ~/{.kde/share/.config,.config}/kdeglobals as well as ~/.config/mimeapps.list, which is to be expected | 23:57 |
wxl | having changed that, clicking on a link in konversation opens it in falkon | 23:58 |
valorie | in systemsettings, I don't even see a way to set a default browser | 23:58 |
valorie | I know that FF is always trying to make me choose it | 23:58 |
wxl | i just searched for "default applications" | 23:58 |
valorie | and does chrome in a less nasty way | 23:59 |
valorie | chromium doesn't bug me | 23:59 |
* wxl turns up his nose | 23:59 | |
valorie | I think I set falkon as default in falkon itself | 23:59 |
wxl | i couldn't find a way | 23:59 |
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