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| faustyfoss | Hi. Question: If I install first mini.iso and then install lubuntu desktop, will that mean lower RAM usage? Thank you. | 14:49 |
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| serghei | OOO EEE | 14:57 |
| diogenes_ | faustyfoss, i don't think so. | 14:57 |
| faustyfoss | In the docs: "Lubuntu Trusty alternate 32-bit: 176 MB". Does that apply only to the Trusty edition? I'm not sure which edition has the lowest RAM requirement. | 15:02 |
| teward | faustyfoss: that applies only for the alternate ISO | 15:03 |
| teward | and POSSIBLY the Trusty 32bit install | 15:03 |
| teward | but that sounds like *Bare minimum* requirements | 15:03 |
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| slipttees | Hi all | 17:18 |
| slipttees | i try old computer lubuntu 18.04.2 fresh install... video 640x480 only... i try sisimedia and sis671 | 17:18 |
| slipttees | get this problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rbZNFVwt8h/ | 17:19 |
| y9pqb | My friend has Lubuntu 18.04 on his very underpowered computer. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to 19.04 for him. The main program he is going to use is Krita, which is Qt, so I figured LXQt might be better for him, but I'm afraid LXQt is going to be slower than LXDE. | 17:42 |
| y9pqb | What do you guys think? How has your experience been with the LXDE -> LXQt migration? | 17:43 |
| wxl | fantastic, y9pqb. also, lxde is in a bad state given it's not gtk3 compliant. this is going to be problematic in the near future. there's already some issues with gtk2 apps, notably pcmanfm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984 | 17:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM freezes with Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed when clicking on a file or folder in 18.04" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:45 |
| wxl | development of lxde has crawled to a halt, whereas lxqt is being committed to constantly and is always adding new features and fixes | 17:46 |
| wxl | lxde is NOT a long term solution, at all | 17:46 |
| y9pqb | I weighting upgrading to LXQt now vs waiting for 20.04 | 17:49 |
| * wxl shrugs | 17:49 | |
| wxl | i'd just get it out of the way | 17:49 |
| wxl | i see no benefit to lxde | 17:49 |
| y9pqb | I see | 17:50 |
| y9pqb | I'm concerned because I have a program that became much slower after porting to Qt5 | 17:50 |
| y9pqb | I understand LXDE is a dead-end though | 17:51 |
| wxl | yes, but it will be slower STILL in gtk3 | 17:52 |
| wxl | this is the reason pcman is no longer contributing to pcmanfm and is only working on pcmanfm-qt | 17:52 |
| wxl | if you want to see how sad it is with lxde, look at the last few YEARS of commits on lxsession.. translations, typos fixes, some other little fixes.. over YEARS https://github.com/lxde/lxsession/commits/master | 17:55 |
| y9pqb | ok, thanks. I'll offer to upgrade it for him | 17:57 |
| wxl | and for that matter, we have not found lxqt to have a higher footprint overall. we've been meaning to do a blog post for a while but haven't done it | 17:57 |
| wxl | a word of warning: the lxde to lxqt transition is not seamless. read the manual if youw ant to upgrade, or better yet, do a fresh install | 17:57 |
| y9pqb | cool, I'm interested in that post whenever you get around to it | 17:58 |
| y9pqb | what do you mean not seamless? | 17:58 |
| slipttees | help fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rbZNFVwt8h/ | 17:59 |
| wxl | y9pqb: https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html | 17:59 |
| wxl | uh oh wait that's not it | 18:00 |
| wxl | slipttees: what's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? | 18:00 |
| slipttees | wxl: in paste | 18:01 |
| wxl | y9pqb: read from this line to the end https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/manual/browse/18.10/source/D/upgrading.rst$76 | 18:02 |
| wxl | slipttees: sorry mean /var/log/syslog | 18:02 |
| slipttees | wxl: sorry bro kk | 18:02 |
| wxl | slipttees: i will say one line catches my eye though it's not an error.. [ 28.495] (WW) sis671: module ABI major version (23) doesn't match the server's version (24).. did you get this driver from somewhere strange? | 18:04 |
| slipttees | have oficial driver? | 18:04 |
| slipttees | i don't known | 18:04 |
| y9pqb | wxl: Thanks. He has enough disk space, so I think I'll install 19.04 on a separate partition and tell him to migrate to it at his own pace. I'm glad I didn't just blindly upgrade when I had the chance. | 18:06 |
| slipttees | wxl: i try sis617 and sisimedia same problem | 18:06 |
| slipttees | sis671* | 18:07 |
| wxl | slipttees: so how about that log? | 18:20 |
| francesco | ciao | 20:00 |
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| jcb2016 | looking for a light distro that isn't resource hungry and it needs to be able to work with bcm43142 wireless drivers i was refered to lubuntu. any ideas about the drivers? | 23:03 |
| wxl | !b43 | jcb2016 | 23:08 |
| ubottu | jcb2016: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 23:08 |
| jcb2016 | wxl, my card works in ubuntu im on it right now. do i install it in lubuntu the same way i would install it in ubuntu? | 23:09 |
| wxl | jcb2016: it's the same packages, yes | 23:09 |
| jcb2016 | wxl, i just need a fast distro that i can load. play videos/stream and not be choppy. ubuntu/xfe/gnome is very choppy i can't play videos i want in browswers | 23:11 |
| wxl | jcb2016: if you're low powered, the modern web and modern video might be problematic no matter what, but lubuntu will be your best bet | 23:13 |
| jcb2016 | wxl, its a very low qualirty laptop i found in the closet a while back its an AMD E1-6015 with radeon R2 Graphics uses bcm43142 drivers has a resolution of 1366x768 i think it has like 4 gigs ram im trying to make it work | 23:16 |
| wxl | jcb2016: like i said, lubuntu will be your best bet | 23:16 |
| jcb2016 | ok thanks | 23:17 |
| jcb2016 | i just ran apt install bcmwl-kernelsource like i did in ubuntu i also ran modprobe wl as sudo and i can't get wifi working worked in ubuntu. any ideas? | 23:48 |
| wxl | it's the same system essentially, so not particularly | 23:49 |
| wxl | so i would double check your work against the manual (of course things might have changed since you last did it) | 23:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> jcb2016 remember that there is no hw video acceleration in browser in Linux in the standard browsers | 23:52 |
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