[00:24] <Bashing-om> WIKI575 up for acceptance - is this what we present to the world ?
[00:52] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Ugh, there are weird space characters (some of them follow a normal one, making it double) in front of "GNOME 3.32", "year naming", "Sean finishes", and "links for download"  Also, while looking for those, I've spotted "naming some of the those who helped" - where "the" should be dropped.
[00:55] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Called myself checking for those spaces :( Glad you caight them .. will correct.
[00:55] <krytarik> And "FLISOL  · sede Los Polvorines" in the LoCo events list got an actual normal double space, and we could fix that too - but I figured they've just written it like that on the event itself.
[01:01] <krytarik> guiverc: Have you got a non-breaking space in your keyboard layout by chance? >_>
[01:03] <guiverc> krytarik, don't know what one is (US keyboards only), but I do find the mouse does strange things on occasion for me which seem to weird things (strange chars on occasion; or the page does strange things..)
[01:11] <krytarik> "This release is widely covered, - new features and fixes are preeminent - the following is a collection of articles selected by our editors" - oh, and while I've noticed this departure from the usual wording last time when I looked at the Google Doc, I'd have to look up what "preeminent" means in this context, but at least I think we should fix the funky punctuation there, maybe by just ...
[01:11] <krytarik> ... puttting it in commas instead.
[01:12] <krytarik> And didn't it use to say "was widely covered" rather than "is", either?
[01:15] <Bashing-om> krytarik: "was widely covered" - yes .. but our directive is to use present tense this I did change.
[01:17] <krytarik> Also, I didn't mention yet, but I saw that my recommendation on the section to only link third-party posts and not also those of the various flavors, has been ignored - but I'm fine with that as long as everybody agrees that it's ok to stuff up the list a little like that.
[01:19] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Well, that might be correct for summaries, but I think the usual delay between the articles being posted and the UWN issue covering them, warrants the use of past tense there.
[01:21] <Bashing-om> krytarik: You th man :) .. will change to was .
[01:27] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Oh, and please cut the 19.04 Updates to just those after it was released.
[01:28] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Ouch .. did not notice that :( will cut.
[01:32] <krytarik> Bashing-om: That'd start with the two 'distro-info-data' entries quite at the end of the list then.  Makes sense enough! >_>
[01:38] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Looking .. in the meantime I now get "Unknown user" at https://lists.canonical.com/archives/<release>-changes . What gives now ?
[01:39] <krytarik> Maybe because that's canonical.com instead?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Could be :) .. naybe mousepad had gone wild on me ,, I play with the URL and see what I can come up with. thanks !
[01:47] <krytarik> Bashing-om: I just clicked the provided links on the list btw. >_<
[01:48] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I did not know the double distro-info-data as a delimeter.
[01:48] <krytarik> Me neither until then.
[01:50] <krytarik> That is, I just clicked the links on various items in the list to narrow it down.
[02:07] <guiverc> no issues with read thru of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue575
[02:14] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) 2 down one to go .. Wild_Man ? have you looked ?
[02:36] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, have you already made the changes mentioned above/
[02:36] <Wild_Man> ?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: So far as I know we are up to date with all suggested changes.
[02:39] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Looking now
[02:50] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, looks good to me
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Great - What is is what will be :P
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[20:01] <Bashing-om> M/L is away ,,, doing the forum post next.
[20:25] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Eyes on ? Got an issue posting to the forum :(
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[21:10] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I will try to post to the forum
[21:25] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, It is not working right for me either it is messing up the 18.10 updates and curtailing the rest as you said
[21:26] <Wild_Man> I think I will try to post a new one myself and see what happens
[21:33] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I suspect it is just to long and we may have to split it into to posts, I do not know of that having to be done before but I think that is the case, I ask for admin input
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: My thought is to make a comment and reduce the content.
[21:35] <Wild_Man> We may have to, I am waiting for an admin to respond
[21:35] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, when I posted the 18.10 updates the formatting is messed up as well
[21:35] <Wild_Man> I just copied and pasted so it should be correct
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: yup - we run out of buffer .. and the final [/LIST] is cut off .. all I know to do is cut the contents down to size.
[21:38] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I think that is what we will have to do, what are you thinking add a comment to see the updates for 18.10 go to the wiki page?
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: cut in between the 18.04 and 18.10 updates " ----cut to reduce content -----" . Say the first and last 10 items in each left ?
[21:42] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, however you want to do it is okay with me, krytarik thoughts?
[21:43] <krytarik> Well, you guys have managed to do it before, wonder what's different now?
[21:45] <krytarik> If you can't make it work this time though, then of course I'd also be fine with cutting the section in some way and linking to the wiki instead.
[21:45] <Wild_Man> I believe it is a different issue, I think there is a character limit for a post and I believe we reached it, the other issue is about security and I got around it by leaving some out then editing to add it later
[21:45] <krytarik> Ah, ok.
[21:47] <Wild_Man> krytarik, where do you think we should cut it off at the 18.10 updates the put a comment to see the wiki for a complete lit of updates
[21:48] <Wild_Man> list
[21:49] <krytarik> Could also cut on the releases that are the least relevant by now if it reduces the size enough - thinking of 14.04 and 16.04
[21:49] <Wild_Man> krytarik, other then linking to the wiki, only other thing we can do is split the letter into two posts, I have seen tutorials split into several posts and I believe this is the reason
[21:51] <Wild_Man> guiverc, I can do the fridge today if you want me too
[21:52] <krytarik> Well, as I've mentioned the last time this issue came up, I don't think the update lists are so interesting to most anyway - so I'd rather cut than split if necessary.
[21:52] <Wild_Man> That is my thought too, I think it would look bad split
[21:53] <krytarik> Just make sure to link properly.
[21:54] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, just go ahead and cut out the 18.10 updates and add a link to the wiki that goes directly to the updates
[21:54] <Wild_Man> I will start on the fridge
[22:16] <Wild_Man> guiverc, ready for 2nd
[22:16] <Wild_Man> krytarik, I would be okay with the forum publishing to be like the fridge
[22:20] <krytarik> Yeah, we've talked about this option the last time too, but I think we figured the forums is different because the UWN has its own section there and so is another place where (usually) the full issue can be read.
[22:21] <Wild_Man> Maybe but I know even with the full issue being on the forum I still always go to the wiki I like it better not sure that is true of everyone
[22:22] <Wild_Man> krytarik, do you want to be my 2nd?
[22:22] <guiverc> Wild_Man, looks great - 2nd
[22:23] <Wild_Man> Thanks guiverc, you want me to do social media too?
[22:23] <guiverc> yes please..
[22:24] <Wild_Man> Here it is http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/22/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-575/
[22:24] <Wild_Man> Okay
[22:28] <Wild_Man> Done
[22:34] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you want me to fix the links where they are clickable?
[22:35] <guiverc> thanks Wild_Man :)
[22:35] <guiverc> thanks for all your effort Bashing-om
[22:36] <Wild_Man> Your welcome guiverc
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yeah ,., my thinking is not doing too well ! for makeing up a proper link.
[22:42] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Only thanks to you we get this done :P
[22:42] <guiverc> :)
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[22:49] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you can click edit in the post and see the format now that I have changed it
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Doing the looking :)
[22:50] <Wild_Man> krytarik, when you say to make the link correctly you meant it should go to the updates section right? I do not know how to make it do that
[22:50] <Wild_Man> I guess I would just add update 18.10 to the link?
[22:51] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Just copy the respective link from the sidebar on the wiki page.
[22:52] <Wild_Man> krytarik, Thanks
[22:53] <krytarik> And I'd introduce the link with a proper wording, and then just put the bare link after a colon.
[22:56] <Wild_Man> The links work correctly,  Bashing-om you want to reword it?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: krytarik :: Like " dies to excessove content these are abridged, The complete lest is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue575#Ubuntu_18.04_Updates " ??
[22:58] <Bashing-om> due*
[22:59] <Wild_Man> Something like that is okay with me
[23:00] <Wild_Man> I have to fix my wife something to eat now
[23:08] <Bashing-om> re-directs are done also :)
[23:19] <Wild_Man> Thanks Bashing-om
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc :: Clear to wipe Gdoc ? and we start UWN576 ?
[23:30] <Wild_Man> Yes Bashing-om
[23:31] <guiverc> concur.
[23:31] <Bashing-om> wipeing :)