[14:56] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: It looks like -controls is not as clear as it should be. I am guessing that jack start/stop should also do an "apply"
[14:57] <OvenWerks> or that any change should just do an apply
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That seems to be what I'm running into. People are expecting it to manage everything rather than simply configure.
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> The mentality is that it runs in the background like qjackctl or cadence.
[16:57] <OvenWerks> UI is not my strong part  :P
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> It's mostly the new people that don't understand. People who have been running it for years understand the process.
[17:04] <OvenWerks> It appears that adding firewire is a good thing. While the alsa FW stuff seems to work... it seems that A) alsa does not include the routing controls or preamp levels B) does not seem to connect to the ffado mixer
[17:16] <Eickmeyer> Well, that's good, but unfortunate for those that rely on ffado mixer.
[17:18] <OvenWerks> Adding FW will mean the ffado will allow mixer use. So  good reason to add it.
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> Cool. BTW, 19.10 daily images have started spinning, in case you were wondering.
[17:28]  * Eickmeyer is surprised, it usually takes a week
[17:29] <OvenWerks> I have started a ubuntustudio-menu-add git repo on my machine... soon as it at least runs I will upload an alpha
[17:31] <OvenWerks> From comments on the LAU list, it appears the modules can be switched live and perhpas qjackctl does this. (from people's comments)
[17:34] <Eickmeyer> That wouldn't be a bad thing to implement.
[17:34] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: What does ubuntustudio-menu-add do?
[17:34] <OvenWerks> a basic menu editor
[17:35] <OvenWerks> It allows adding a new menu item such as script or maybe change where an application shows up
[17:37] <Eickmeyer> Oh, okay, so it basically edits the xdg file in ubuntustudio-menu?
[17:37] <OvenWerks> it is a *desktop editor
[17:37] <Eickmeyer> Oh, I see.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> So it adds a desktop file to ~/.local/share/applications/
[17:39] <OvenWerks> if the name of the *desktop file is the same as one that exists then that effectively replaces the stock desktop file for that user
[17:40] <OvenWerks> Changing the catagory will change where it shows up except for those we hard code :)
[17:41] <OvenWerks> At this time I am not interested in adding submenus or the like.
[17:43] <OvenWerks> Part of the problem with alcart menulibre is that they try to do too much.
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> Kitchen Sink apps, if you will.
[17:52] <OvenWerks> The fun part will be to find any *desktop file with the same name...
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I just enabled the autobuilds for eoan, in case you were wondering.