[00:08] <jcb2016> wxl, didn't work on 19.0.4 but i can download 18.0.4 lubuntu https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-released/ or can i?
[00:12] <wxl> jcb2016: did you answer any of my questions?
[00:13] <jcb2016> nope what whwere the questions. i think i rebooted and tried the broadom-sta when you told me to try in 19.0.4 i didn't save the questions my bad
 hey jcb2016 have you already started that process? < -- last thing i saw
[00:14] <wxl> 1. did you modprobe -r all the other drivers before modprobing the one you wanted?
[00:15] <jcb2016> no i didn't i was suppose to do sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[00:15] <jcb2016> forgot that didn't have internet in lubuntu
[00:16] <jcb2016> i just wrote it down
[00:17] <wxl> it's rather important
[00:17] <wxl> go do it over :)
[00:17] <wxl> before you go
[00:17] <jcb2016> ok brb
[00:17] <wxl> the two other questions:
[00:18] <jcb2016> ok
[00:18] <wxl> 2. does anything get returned when you modprobe the driver you want?
[00:18] <wxl> 3. if it fails, what's in /var/log/syslog
[00:18] <jcb2016> nothing happend it just loaded
[00:18] <jcb2016> ill copy it to a usb drive when i load it
[00:18] <wxl> um
[00:19] <wxl> give me the output of `lsmod` too
[00:19] <jcb2016> ok
[00:47] <jcb2016> wxl, i got wifi working
[00:48] <jcb2016> wxl, modprobping -r all the stuff worked im thinking. thanks
[00:48] <jcb2016> :D
[00:48] <kc2bez> \o/
[00:52] <jcb2016> plus its broadcom-sta-dkms and i insrtalled broadcom-common
[00:52] <jcb2016> cacn't wait to install lubuntu
[00:52] <jcb2016> bbl
[02:14] <jcb2016> installing lubuntu as we speak :D
[02:14] <jcb2016> thanks wxl for the help from earlier
[02:17] <wxl[m]> jcb2016: did you permanently blacklist those modules?
[02:17] <wxl[m]> There are instructions in the documentation
[02:18] <jcb2016> wxl[m]: will it help after the install and reboot? will they stay blacklisted?
[02:19] <someball> Hi, I'm doing some bash scripts for hotkeys and I need some help
[02:20] <someball> what commands should I look into for rearranging the open apps on the taskbar?
[02:22] <someball> I've done apropos taskbar but there were no results
[02:33] <wxl[m]> jcb2016: you need it for the changes to be permanent
[02:34] <wxl[m]> someball: good question. Not sure there are commands for that. LXDE or LXQt?
[02:41] <someball> lxde
[02:42] <wxl> and so what specifically do you want to do?
[02:43] <someball> imitate the winkey+number hotkeys of windows
[02:43] <wxl> i don't do windows
[02:45] <someball> so in windows you can focus the window of an app by pressing the winkey+the number of position of said app in the taskbar
[02:46] <someball> say you have your terminal in the first position, an editor in the 2nd, browser in 3rd, if you press windows+3 you focus the browser
[02:46] <wxl> hm possible
[02:46] <wxl> let me dig
[02:46] <someball> it's very handy
[02:46] <someball> anyway that part I have it done
[02:46] <wxl> so you have it fixed? what do you want then? ;D
[02:47] <someball> but in my old windows machine I had a few pinned apps to the taskbar, when you do the same hotkeys they launch if they werent launched
[02:48] <someball> and since they are pinned they are always in the same positions in the taskbar
[02:48] <wxl> so you want a particular hotkey to launch a particular program
[02:48] <wxl> that can be done.. but if you want to use the number keys.. that's probably iffy
[02:49] <someball> in lubuntu if I use my shortcuts to launch those same apps if I dont launchthem in order they wont be in that order in the taskbar
[02:49] <someball> I already can launch them with super+number
[02:49] <someball> I just want them to be arranged correctly
[02:50] <someball> for example I have the browser at super+2, editor super+3, terminal super+4
[02:51] <wxl> yeah i don't think you're going to be able to get that
[02:51] <someball> but if I do super +4 first then the terminal will be first in the taskbar
[02:52] <someball> I will keep looking into that tomorrow, its getting late here
[02:52] <wxl> you could probably write code to do this, but it's not exposed
[02:53] <someball> by code you mean something else than a bash script?
[02:53] <wxl> i'm talking c
[02:53] <someball> well if it comes to that I guess I wont go further, but I'm hoping it doesnt
[02:54] <someball> ciao
[02:54] <wxl> bye
[02:57] <jcb2016> up and running wxl and i've blacklisted all the other models/drivers
[02:58] <wxl> jcb2016: then you should be good to go :)
[02:58] <jcb2016> thanks for everything
[02:58] <jcb2016> now i just gotta figure this thing out
[02:59] <wxl> no problem
[02:59] <wxl> what do you need help figuring out?
[03:01] <jcb2016> adding icons to the left side where the desktop numbers are
[03:01] <jcb2016> has to be a panel setting
[03:01] <jcb2016> i want to add chrome
[03:02] <jcb2016> found it
[03:02] <jcb2016>  configure panel
[03:03] <wxl> drag and drop works, too XD
[03:04] <jcb2016> i had to make it complicated lol
[03:04] <wxl> yuuup
[03:06] <jcb2016> wxl, why are you the only one that answers here?
[03:06] <wxl> no
[03:06] <wxl> sometimes no one answers at all
[03:06] <wxl> jk XD
[03:06] <jcb2016> lol
[03:07] <jcb2016> i can play my church videos in chrome and they play perfect.
[03:08] <wxl> not in chromium?
[03:08] <jcb2016> nope regular chrome i donwloaded. is that not good?
[03:09] <wxl> it's not entirely open source
[03:09] <wxl> and it's not as battle tested as chromium on ubuntu
[03:09] <jcb2016> ok ill download chromium
[03:09] <wxl> !info chromium-browser
[03:09] <wxl> that package
[03:10] <jcb2016> ok
[03:11] <jcb2016> so i found this laptop in the garage been sitting for like 2 years. its hp and my son has a hp. my son has the charger and it works on both laptops. he is charging his right now and this one needs to charge so i will be back later or tomorrow
[03:11] <jcb2016> later
[03:11] <jcb2016> thanks again
[03:12] <wxl> k be well
[08:49] <murat_> 3
[08:49] <murat_> 3312
[11:57] <bouncy_patt7> yo
[11:58] <bouncy_patt7> anyone good at linux commands?
[12:02] <kc2bez> I guess that depends on what you are looking for bouncy_patt7
[12:03] <bouncy_patt7> cool beans dude,
[12:05] <bouncy_patt7> newbie here to linux, so far learning this shit is more fun than crack, but anyway, how could I create a shortcut that opens the command iostat in the terminal..
[12:05] <bouncy_patt7> so like a desktop shortcut i can put onto the taskbar.... ty
[12:07] <kc2bez> careful with the !language
[12:08] <bouncy_patt7> sorry
[12:08] <bouncy_patt7> sry
[12:08] <kc2bez> so what you want is known as a desktop file
[12:08] <kc2bez> no worries.
[12:08] <kc2bez> check out this link I think it will help you get started https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-custom-desktop-files-for-launchers-on-linux
[12:10] <bouncy_patt7> nice one bud,
[12:10] <bouncy_patt7> <3 ty
[12:10] <kc2bez> yw
[14:18] <Jonopoly> Ooh a lubuntu server!
[14:33] <Jonopoly> Is it possible to run lubuntu LTS with LxQT?
[14:33] <Jonopoly> rather than lxde ?
 @Jonopoly [<Jonopoly> Is it possible to run lubuntu LTS with LxQT?], you can install lxqt as a DE in lubuntu 18.04
 (as you can install any other Desktop Environment)
[14:48] <Jonopoly> what's this lubot? is there another server (discord?)
[14:49] <Jonopoly> @HMollerC1 can install another DE ontop of Lubuntu but.. can i then cleanly remove Lxde ?
 I'm not sure if it will be cleanly
[14:50] <Jonopoly> :(
 but why do you want toi remove it? space issues?
[14:51] <Jonopoly> just always thought it was bad-practice to have multiple DE
 it would be cleaner to have only one, but remove the original might cause issues.
 I've never done it, maybe someone did it and had no problems (or had them)
 anyway, it would be normal lxqt, not lxqt "touched" by lubuntu.
 @Jonopoly [<Jonopoly> what's this lubot? is there another server (discord?)], Lubot is a bridge for telegram to IRC
[15:01] <Jonopoly> Ah im new to irc - will look into telegram
[15:02] <Jonopoly> Im tempted to just get the later version of lubuntu with lxqt
 That would be my recommendation. I think it's a better experience.
[15:03] <Jonopoly> even though it's unstable
[15:03] <Jonopoly> My usage is just browsing
 It is stable just the support cycle is shorter.
[15:11] <Jonopoly> oh is it?
[15:11] <Jonopoly> what is the support cycle? yearly?
[15:11] <Jonopoly> and since it's short is it easy to upgrade to the next version?
 9 months on the non-lts but upgrades are easy.
[15:13] <Jonopoly> i can see there is 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish
[15:13] <Jonopoly> and 19.04 Disco Dingo
[15:14] <Jonopoly> ah it seems 19.04 has second longest support
[15:14] <Jonopoly> (that's exciting! will give it ago)
 Yes, 19.04 is the latest release.
[15:38] <Jonopoly> exciting!
[15:57] <jimmy> hi guys I installed lubuntu 18.10
[15:57] <jimmy> how can I install voice commands?
[15:58] <Jonopoly> Hi Jimmy, I don't know
[15:58] <apt-ghetto> Do you know, which packages you need?
[15:58] <jimmy> no
[15:58] <apt-ghetto> Well, that is the important question
[15:59] <jimmy> are there any global voice commands?
[15:59] <jimmy> for linux pc?
[15:59] <jimmy> in english
[16:01] <apt-ghetto> I don't know, but I don't speak with my computers
[16:01] <jimmy> why not?
[16:01] <jimmy> some people speak with alexa
 @jimmy [<jimmy> are there any global voice commands?], There are not.
[16:02] <apt-ghetto> Cortana, Siri, Alexa send the data to external servers and collect the data for "who knows what"
[16:02] <jimmy> oh I see
[16:02] <jimmy> ok I will check my version and return back later
[18:28] <Jonopoly> Well, now i'm gutted
[18:28] <Jonopoly> Lubuntu 19.04 is 64bit only :()
[18:28] <Jonopoly> Lubuntu 19.04 is 64bit only :(
 True. 18.10 is the last 32 bit release we had.
 @kc2bez [True. 18.10 is the last 32 bit release we had.], but in that case, better to stay in 18.04
 which is LTS
[18:31] <Jonopoly> aw :(
 are you sure you can't install 64bit?
 What do you have for a CPU?
[19:04] <Jonopoly> Keep getting this weird error every boot
[19:05] <Jonopoly> "system program problem detected"
[20:09] <teward> HMollerCl: there's no 32bit installer ISO
[20:10] <teward> you can install older 32bit and then upgrade to it
[20:10] <teward> upgrade to newer*
[20:25] <jonopoly> lubuntu 19.04 is so nice
[20:27] <wxl> thanks jonopoly :)
[20:28] <jonopoly> Oh you're a lubuntu developer?
[20:28] <wxl> yep
[20:28] <jonopoly> wxl: I like it because it light and seems very beginner friendly
[20:28] <jonopoly> basically lets me use a 7+ old laptop :P
[20:29] <wxl> yep but it's extremely functional, too. i think what we do is pretty fantastic :)
[20:29] <teward> wxl is one of the primary driving forces behind Lubuntu
[20:29] <teward> so is @tsimonq2
[20:29] <teward> and there's a number of other LUbuntu Devs involved
[20:29] <teward> i don't count (I just keep their specialized infra running xD)
[20:29] <jonopoly> wow, well i'm loving it so far
[20:30] <jonopoly> suprising how much nicer 19 is than 18
[20:30] <wxl> well, and we have plenty of contributors, too, of which teward is one of
[20:30] <wxl> you don't have to write code to help :)
[20:30] <wxl> jonopoly: you mean 18.04, i presume?
[20:30] <jonopoly> yeah, sorry (lts)
[20:30] <teward> wxl: so my being a constant thorn in you and SImon's sides then counts as helping?  xD
[20:31] <teward> nah I kid but :P
[20:34] <wxl> jonopoly: yeah well lxqt is much more modern and developed
[20:36] <jonopoly> yeah, feels very modern
[20:36] <jonopoly> lxde reminded me of xfce (both felt quite old)
[20:38] <wxl> jonopoly: i think xfce is probably more developed than lxde. it's REALLY BAD with lxde.
[20:38] <wxl> jonopoly: to be fair, i'm concerned about the likes of raspbian (for the raspberry pi) where lxde is a default desktop environment.
[20:39] <wxl> re: XFCE, nevermind. last release was 2015 XD https://xfce.org/
[20:39] <jonopoly> wxl: fingers-crossed for raspberry-pi 4
[20:42] <wxl> it seems like xfce is capable of using gtk3 so that's a good sign for it