[01:04] <willcooke> morning gang
[01:07] <sarnold> good morning willcooke :)
[01:07] <willcooke> hi sarnold!
[01:07] <sarnold> how's taipei treating you? :)
[01:11] <willcooke> sarnold, it's great!  The view from the office is pretty amazing.  It's hot as balls though, which I'm not used to
[01:11] <willcooke> it does rain a lot though, and they have good tea
[01:12] <sarnold> willcooke: I'm sad I didn't make time to get to the office during debconf last year :( I also had crazy heat, I hoped this time of year you might be getting something more pleasant :)
[01:13] <willcooke> I think it's probably pretty cool compared to high summer, only mid 30s
[01:13] <sarnold> that still sounds like a lot :)
[01:28] <willcooke> yeah, it's about 15 too much :)
[01:28] <sarnold> I got accustomed to leaving a *lot* of time between things so I could go slowly and get lots of water at the destination
[01:31] <willcooke> hehe
[01:36] <duflu> Oh, morning willcooke
[01:37] <jibel> hi all
[01:45] <willcooke> morning pieq
[01:45] <pieq> hey willcooke :)
[01:45] <willcooke> morning duflu, how goes?
[01:46] <duflu> willcooke, feeling refreshed today. Is Taipei fun? :)
[01:47] <duflu> Oh, "hot as balls"
[01:47] <duflu> Another unit of measurement learned from management
[01:49] <duflu> Morning jibel
[02:31] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: You're up really early!
[02:32] <willcooke> Eickmeyer, hey!  I'm in UTC+8 this week
[02:32] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: Dang! You're 13 hours ahead of me. I'm UTC-7.
[02:32] <willcooke> oh wait
[02:32] <willcooke> oh
[02:32] <willcooke> erm
[02:32] <Eickmeyer> Or is that 15 hours...
[02:32] <willcooke> timezones are hard
[02:33] <willcooke> I'm in Taipei, so whatever that is, and you can do the sums XD
[02:33] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: That's closer to UTC+10.
[02:33] <duflu> No it is GMT+8
[02:33] <duflu> same as Hong Kong, Western Australia and much of China
[02:34] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I just googled that.
[02:34] <Eickmeyer> Still, 15 hours ahead of me.
[02:34] <pieq> Eickmeyer, where are you? :)
[02:58] <Eickmeyer> pieq: near Seattle.
[03:01] <pieq> Eickmeyer, OK! I live in Taipei, and it's always very hard to compute $MY_LOCAL_TIME - 15 to get the time on the West coast of the US :)
[03:01] <Eickmeyer> pieq: Hey! Nice! Glad I could help. :)
[03:02] <pieq> Eickmeyer, and by the way, thanks a lot for the heavy duty stuff you're doing for Ubuntu Studio. I just tried v19.04 yesterday cause a friend of mine would like to start using Linux, but he's a musician, so I think he'd befenit from Ubuntu Studio
[03:03] <pieq> I'm still debating whether to use Ubuntu 19.04 + ubuntustudio-installer, or go with Ubuntu Studio 19.04 directly. Does ubuntustudio-installer include JACK configuration to re-route PulseAudio through JACK??
[03:03] <Eickmeyer> pieq: Well, I sure hope he'll benefit. I'm an audio engineer, so I know exactly what it's like to support musicians.
[03:04] <Eickmeyer> pieq: Yes. Configuration in Ubuntu Studio Controls.
[03:04] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-controls | pieq
[03:04] <ubot5`> pieq: Ubuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
[03:06] <Eickmeyer> ubuntustudio-controls is a dependency of ubuntustudio-installler.
[03:07] <pieq> Eickmeyer, oh I see! Thanks.
[03:07] <pieq> I'm still not sure what to do then :) GNOME is more eye-candy than XFCE, and he will get a brand new laptop, so I know hardware resources is not going to be a problem
[03:08] <Eickmeyer> Have you /seen/ the default theming in Ubuntu Studio?
[03:09] <Eickmeyer> Also, I add the compton compositor in lieu of the default Xfce compositor, so I get more eyecandy for myself.
[03:09] <pieq> Eickmeyer, I tried a live USB yesterday. It's very nice indeed. I guess I'll show both options to my friend and ask him what he prefers
[03:10] <Eickmeyer> That said, I'm not the greatest fan of Xfce. XD
[03:10] <Eickmeyer> Yep. Never hurts to have both. :)
[06:16] <pieq> willcooke, https://blog.delouw.ch/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/mok_enroll0.png → Do you know what happens if you don't "press any key" within the 10 seconds? I mean... the device will start without enrolling the new key, so the modules won't be accepted, but how can you re-run the MOK enrollment process then?
[06:16] <didrocks> good morning
[06:18] <willcooke> pieq, sorry, don't know off the top of my head - I'd have to test it.
[06:18] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[06:18] <pieq> hey didrocks
[06:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:19] <willcooke> morning oSoMoN
[06:19] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[06:19] <pieq> willcooke, ok, don't bother, I'll try to figure it out
[06:19] <willcooke> pieq, I'd be interested to know what you find out
[06:22] <didrocks> hey willcooke, pieq
[06:48] <duflu> Morning didrocks and oSoMoN
[06:49] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN
[06:51] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu, salut didrocks
[06:55] <willcooke> sil2100, nice work on the dkms bug, thank you!
[07:16] <sil2100> willcooke: thanks! Too bad the bug was found so late, would have been a nice fix to have on the isos
[07:22] <duflu> That's odd. I can use bugzilla on project 'gnome-shell' again
[07:22] <duflu> I guess all it needed was removing the alias from the new gitlab bug watch
[07:38] <pieq> willcooke, interesting... so if you don't react fast enough to enroll the keys, the system starts, but the nvidia DKMS are not enabled, so you end up in a weird state where "Additional Drivers" thinks you're using nvidia-418, where you can see a nvidia-settings tool and even select the PRIME profile from it, but actually no matter what you select there (nvidia or intel), it's always intel that does the rendering (as seen in glxinfo | grep
[07:38] <pieq> renderer), and in syslog there are multiple error messages about nvidia
[07:42] <willcooke> pieq, erk.  Please could you log a bug?  If you re-do the process does it start working?  I should do, but...
[07:45] <pieq> willcooke, I just tried: (1) enabling nouveau drivers and rebooting, then (2) enabling nvidia-418 → I'm asked to input a password for the MOK key enrollment process, and this time I enroll the key properly and everything works as expected. I'm gonna log a bug
[07:53] <marcustomlinson> Morning all
[07:54] <pieq> willcooke, against what component should I file this issue?
[07:54] <willcooke> morning marcustomlinson
[07:54] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:55] <willcooke> pieq, not really sure, maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mokutil
[07:56] <willcooke> pieq, and perhaps nvidia-drivers too?  They can always untag it as needed
[08:01] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:01] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[08:02] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[08:02] <Laney> ahoy
[08:03] <oSoMoN> seb128, oui, et toi?
[08:03] <willcooke> morning seb128 Laney
[08:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, très bien :)
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney willcooke
[08:03]  * pieq se demande combien de francophones il y sur ce channel...
[08:04] <Laney> NONONO
[08:04] <oSoMoN> ahoy Laney
[08:05] <Laney> hey willcooke seb128 pieq oSoMoN didrocks marcustomlinson duflu sil2100 Eickmeyer sarnold
[08:05] <Laney> #everyonewhospokesincelastnight
[08:05] <marcustomlinson> haha
[08:05] <Laney> update-manager just stole focus
[08:05] <Laney> as I was hitting enter on IRC
[08:05] <Laney> guess I'm installing updates then ...
[08:05] <duflu> I suspect Gnome has stealing prevention
[08:05] <duflu> in theory
[08:05] <Laney> it sure does
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney! It did the right thing for you :p
[08:06] <duflu> Morning seb128 and Laney
[08:06] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:06] <seb128> install of updates is a reason worth stealing focus with!
[08:06] <didrocks> don't tell mpt :p
[08:11] <willcooke> quittin' time.  Night all
[08:11]  * willcooke & jibel -> temple 
[08:11] <duflu> Ooh
[08:13] <Laney> don't melt
[08:36] <ricotz> hello desktopers :)
[08:36] <ricotz> could someone pick up https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/seahorse/commit/d40a6c9397d9d9a12b5de514552173252dbe110a
[08:37] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz
[08:41] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi
[08:42] <seb128> hey ricotz
[08:43] <oSoMoN> ricotz, marcustomlinson joined the desktop team yesterday, and he is going to take over the maintenance of libreoffice packages (both debs and snaps)
[08:43] <seb128> ricotz, do you know if it's reported on launchpad?
[08:46] <ricotz> oSoMoN, oh, I see
[08:46] <ricotz> seb128, I don't think so
[08:47] <seb128> ricotz, it's probably more for e-serie than a SRU then?
[08:48] <ricotz> seb128, this is a SRU for sure
[08:48] <ricotz> 3.32-1 is affected
[08:48] <Laney> that commit is in 3.32 branch right?
[08:49] <Laney> any special reason to need it now rather than wait for a release?
[08:50] <ricotz> I would have assumed there is a 3.32.1 already, but I can ask if there will be one shortly
[08:50] <Laney> schedule says may 8th for next stable
[08:50] <ricotz> imo, this bug is kind of a show stopper
[08:51] <Laney> if you want to prepare the SRU I'll sponsor it
[08:52] <Laney> properly formatted bug, debdiff
[08:54] <ricotz> I am going to wait for an upsteam answer regarding a release
[08:56] <oSoMoN> anyone know how to set/change the bug supervisor for a source package in launchpad?
[08:57] <seb128> oSoMoN, 'supervisor'?
[08:58] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, as referred to in https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Statuses#Only_available_to_the_bug_supervisor
[08:58] <seb128> oSoMoN, I think that's a by-project
[08:58] <seb128> so for 'Ubuntu'
[08:58] <seb128> not by source package
[08:59] <oSoMoN> that makes sense, but marcustomlinson tells me he's not allowed to set the status to triaged for libreoffice bugs (the source package), is he missing a team membership?
[09:00] <Laney> that's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[09:01] <marcustomlinson> Should I be part of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers
[09:02] <Laney> not for this, you want bug control
[09:03] <marcustomlinson> ah
[09:04] <Laney> I guess there might be a case for having ~canonical-desktop-team join that instead of everyone individually
[09:04] <Laney> but we don't have that atm
[09:05] <marcustomlinson> who has the powwwwerrrrr?
[09:05] <Laney> there's a process listed on that wiki page I just linked
[09:06] <marcustomlinson> oh right, I thought I could just skip that :P
[09:07] <marcustomlinson> There is a "Requirements for Teams" section seemly around what you suggested Laney
[09:07] <Laney> yeah
[09:10] <Laney> I pinged Brian in #ubuntu-devel, will see what he says
[09:10] <Laney> but in the meantime, getting to your 5 bugs shouldn't be hard with oSoMoN's guidance :P
[09:47] <xnox> hmmmm.... automated iso testing is getting confused by desktop and canary images
[09:50] <seb128> xnox, how so?
[09:51] <xnox> i guess by the lack of any built or published =) i guess will check again tomorrow, as i see that canary-image ppa was updated for eoan today
[09:51] <xnox> it doesn't like empty http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20190424.1/
[09:52] <seb128> the pending/ points to 24 not 24.1 though
[09:53] <xnox> yeah
[09:53] <xnox> no idea where jenkins is picking 24.1 from then.
[09:53] <andyrock> good morning!
[09:54] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[09:56] <seb128> xnox, jibel is probably the one who knows about that best but he's currently in Taipei so probably eod already
[09:57] <xnox> fair enough. i'll just check that stuff again tomorrow, to see if it gets better with cron
[09:57] <andyrock> hey seb128! I'm good thanks, enjoying my frappe, you?
[09:57] <seb128> andyrock, I'm good, enjoying the still nice weather, it's turning into rain later today :-/
[09:58] <andyrock> seb128: yeah summer is about to end in London too
[09:58] <andyrock> 26C was too good XD
[09:58] <seb128> yeah, same as us it seems
[09:58] <seb128> 10°C less tomorrow
[09:59] <seb128> even colder for the w.e
[09:59] <andyrock> saturaday 7C 😭
[09:59] <seb128> :-(
[09:59] <andyrock> *saturday
[10:02] <marcustomlinson> One Scottish paper called it a "blistering heat wave" XD
[13:30] <seb128> Trevinho;  hey, bug #1825447 stated that our package is made from the wrong branch, worth checking?
[13:30] <ubot5`> bug 1825447 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "19.04 packaging is from master (or wrong commit) and not ubuntu branch (breaks scroll events)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825447
[15:36] <Laney> now we're in bugcontrol
[15:37] <marcustomlinson> \o/
[15:37] <marcustomlinson> thanks Laney
[15:39] <Laney> with great power comes great responsibility
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> yes uncle Ben
[15:48] <oSoMoN> thanks Laney
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> Haha, good morning Laney! :)
[16:26] <Laney> nearly EOD nnow!
[16:26] <Laney> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOW
[16:28] <Eickmeyer> Laney: And have a good one!
[16:28]  * Eickmeyer is at SOD