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[00:37] <Croran> I installed the calf-plugins package but (just looking through the file names) it doesn't seem to include the calf 30 band equalizer. How can I get that?
[00:43] <Eickmeyer> Croran: Did you add the PPA first?
[00:43] <Eickmeyer> And, no, it might not appear in the filenames.
[00:44] <Eickmeyer> You might have to actually run it first, or run carla and add the plugin.
[00:48] <Croran> eickmeyer: I did
[00:51] <Eickmeyer> Croran: I have the Calf 30-band EQ, so it's definitely there.
[00:51] <Croran> eickmeyer: i just installed carla and did a rescan with all the boxes checked. no 30 band.
[00:52] <Croran> eickmeyer: do i also need to install the calf-ladspa package?
[00:53] <Eickmeyer> Croran: Avoid the calf-ladspa package like the plague.
[00:54] <Eickmeyer> Croran: Do a "sudo apt full-upgrade" from the command line.
[00:58] <Croran> eickmeyer: ok it's fixed. i have kxstudio repos also and it has a 'higher' version of calf-plugins. I had to force the ubuntu backports version.
[00:58] <Eickmeyer> !kxstudio | Croran
[00:58] <Eickmeyer> Croran: What you are doing with the KXStudio repos is NOT supported here.
[00:59] <Croran> eickmeyer: i didn't realize i had them installed. i think I did that to get a working version of linuxsampler.
[00:59] <Eickmeyer> Croran: That's probably why. Linux Sampler development has ceased, which is why we don't include it.
[00:59] <Croran> eickmeyer: linux sampler is still great though. what do you use in place of it?
[01:00] <Eickmeyer> Croran: That's a question OvenWerks would answer.
[01:00] <Eickmeyer> I don't use synthesizers. I'm an audio engineer.
[01:00] <Croran> thanks
[01:00] <Eickmeyer> Either way, if you have the KXStudio repos, do not seek support here. It messes with the default Ubuntu system and we can't be working with something where we don't know what's going on.
[01:01] <Eickmeyer> Support is in #kxstudio.
[01:02] <Eickmeyer> Croran: That said, I'm glad it's working.
[02:10] <Croran> Can anyone recommend a free parametric EQ with 'Q' adjustment capability?
[02:13] <Eickmeyer> Croran: The EQ10Q plugins have that, as do the EQs in Calf. Also the X42 plugins work really well.
[02:15] <Croran> great. eq10q looks really nice. the 30 band from calf doesn't have the bands I want, and I didn't see a way to adjust 'Q' per band
[02:16] <Eickmeyer> Croran: I'm also working on getting the lsp-plugins into Ubuntu and our backports PPA.
[02:17] <Eickmeyer> They include a 16-band parametric EQ.
[02:17] <Croran> thank you
[02:18] <Eickmeyer> You're welcome.
[02:28] <Croran> eq10q seems incredible. It's at 5% CPU usage with all 10 stereo filters active.
[02:29] <Croran> Far lower usage than Calf 30-band or Jamin with only EQ active.
[02:48] <Croran> Tangential, but the 'a/b eq comparison switch' in EQ10Q seems bugged. Switching it to 'B' increases CPU usage by 2x-10x.
[03:00] <Eickmeyer> I never noticed. I'll have to look.
[07:21] <psychlem> Hi everyone ! I have a Focusrite Clarett 2 Pre and I can't use my interface with sample rate superior than 48kHz, I have too much XRuns. Do you know how can I do ? :)
[08:57] <vanderaalle> hi, I am getting a bit crazy with compose key in xfce. I have set alt-right. But it does not work for Atom. Atom settings say it's body.native-key-bindings. Any suggestion? Thx
[08:57] <rosseire> Hi. I installed Ubuntu Studio two days ago. I've been having trouble getting things setup. Using a HP laptop and M-Audio midi keyboard. I tried using the getting started section from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/AudioHandbook. I have no sound on my computer. I tried playing a video on youtube and an mp3 file using the parole media player. I think there might be an issue with my sound card not being detected.
[09:01] <M_aD> vanderaalle: i guess the question is Xfce specific and not related to Ubuntu Studio things, best ask in their channel or.... xubuntu
[09:03] <vanderaalle> M_aD: ok. Is there a way to have standard gnome destop in ubuntustudio?
[09:07] <M_aD> personally i wouldn't mix desktop environments and Gnome is resource heavy, unless you have enough RAM. I would opt for a clean install of ubuntu with gnome and add the ubuntu studio stuff.
[09:09] <vanderaalle> ok, thanks for the info, noob here
[09:11] <M_aD> If you want install gnome on top of Ubuntu Studio, there's enough info on the web on how to do it but since you say you're new to linux i woldn't go that route. :)
[09:17] <vanderaalle> actually I'm happy on xfce but some behaviors are a bit bizarre. All apps ask for ctr+q, but it does not work at all...
[09:26] <m_ad[m]> vanderaalle: Keyboard --> Application shortcuts
[09:27] <m_ad[m]> anyhoo, got to go now, might be back later
[09:30] <rosseire> The only program that I can hear sound from is hydrogen. Is there some configuration I can do to get the sound working properly for all applications?
[09:32] <m_ad[m]> rosseire: i guess no one is around at the moment, i'd try again in a few hours. Different timezones ect....
[09:33] <rosseire> m_ad[m]: Ok. Thanks.
[13:33] <Humpel> Hi!
[13:34] <Humpel> Quick question about upgrading to 19.04. Just hit the "Upgrade" button ? That's all ??
[13:36] <Humpel> No changes to the sources.list or anywhere else ?
[14:01] <silkairways> Hello it's anyone in today
[14:02] <silkairways> Studio 19.04 is very cool, i know it is trivial but i thought ubuntu 18 wallpapers were supposed to be included
[14:03] <OvenWerks> I think there is an extra package with older backdrops.
[14:06] <silkairways> Oh i will have to find it
[14:07] <silkairways> Do you know what i can do if a program is downloaded through software store but does not show up in the start menu anywhere? But it launches fine consistently from the software store
[14:09] <OvenWerks> Does it show up in accessories->Application Finder?
[14:09] <silkairways> No
[14:10] <OvenWerks> Software stricks again :P
[14:11] <OvenWerks> I generally install synaptic and use that to install.
[14:11] <OvenWerks> It will give much more information ab9out the package
[14:12] <OvenWerks> by highlighting the package name after it has been installed one can look at the files that have been installed
[14:12] <silkairways> Does synaptic have all the stuff that the software store does? The software store is snap store right?
[14:12] <OvenWerks> it has both snap and deb packages. I think synaptic does as well
[14:13] <OvenWerks> any time I have a choice I do not use snap packages.
[14:13] <OvenWerks> (snap packages are pretty much useless for audio)
[14:13] <silkairways> Okay i see
[14:14] <OvenWerks> Video may not be a problem
[14:14] <silkairways> Perhaps i will try to find another place to download the same app
[14:14] <silkairways> It's electron player which can connect Netflix and YouTube and stuff it's pretty awesome
[14:15] <OvenWerks> In any case you are looking for the *.desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
[14:15] <OvenWerks> if it is there it should show up in the menu.
[14:19] <silkairways> Hmm let me check
[14:22] <M_aD> Humpel: the internet is your friend: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_18.10
[14:24] <M_aD> if you didn't add any PPA's yourself, just hit the upgrade button and see how things go
[14:24] <silkairways> Who is humpel
[14:25] <OvenWerks> silkairways: no worries, someone hwo asked a question before you came
[14:25] <M_aD> :)
[14:25] <M_aD> good afternoon OvenWerks
[14:25] <OvenWerks> o/
[14:26] <OvenWerks> ('morning)
[14:26] <silkairways> Oh sorry
[14:26] <silkairways> The app actually doesnt show up there at all
[14:27] <OvenWerks> That is why it does not show up in the menu.
[14:27] <silkairways> Could i add it somehow?
[14:27] <OvenWerks> how do you start it from the command line?
[14:28] <silkairways> I open the Software store and click launch lol
[14:28] <OvenWerks> (yes you can add it)
[14:28] <OvenWerks> yes, I got that part. :) but you need to know the command that they use.
[14:28] <OvenWerks> What is the name of the app?
[14:29] <silkairways> In was trying to figure out the v command by looking at task manager while it opened
[14:31] <silkairways> It is electron player
[14:31] <silkairways> Possibly ElectronPlayer
[14:35] <OvenWerks> if you open a terminal and type electron and then hit tab a few times, does it complete?
[14:35] <OvenWerks> or show a list?
[14:36] <OvenWerks> Sorry I have to go and get breakfast for my son will be back later.
[14:36] <silkairways> No problem
[14:36] <silkairways> I will try that
[14:36] <silkairways> Thank you for help
[14:43] <silkairways> Ooooo
[14:43] <silkairways> It worked i put in electron and hit tab and it filled in electronplayer and came up the list
[14:43] <silkairways> I hit enter and let me see what it's doing
[14:44] <silkairways> Yea it opened
[14:51] <silkairways> Awesome
[14:54] <OvenWerks> silkairways: In that case we can make a electronplayer.desktop file
[14:57] <OvenWerks> silkairways: if you open the file manager, it should have a location entry box like a browser does.
[14:58] <OvenWerks> it should show /home/<your_user_name>/ or something like that
[14:59] <OvenWerks> You can add to the end of that .local/share/applications/
[15:00] <OvenWerks> and it should go there or it will give an error if the directory doesn't exist yet.... hmm it may be easier to do this from a terminal.
[15:08] <silkairways> Sorry something came up at work
[15:09] <silkairways> So i was actually able to right click on desktop and create launcher and when i typed in electron it came up with electron player and the launcher works
[15:10] <OvenWerks> If that works for you and is all you need that is fine.
[15:10] <OvenWerks> If you wish it to also be in your menu... we cqan do that
[15:11] <Humpel> M_aD: OK... tnx! I'll give it a try :D
[15:16] <silkairways> I have become busy at work at the moment i would like to get it on the start menu at some point i will be back soon hopefully.  Thank you so much btw!
[15:25] <silkairways> Okay disaster averted
[15:26] <silkairways> So try the file manager first
[15:27] <OvenWerks> in the file manager in your "Desktop" directory you should find the launcher you created.
[15:28] <silkairways> Copy it to the application folder?
[15:28] <OvenWerks> the actual file name is probably something.desktop
[15:28] <silkairways> Okay let me find that
[15:28] <OvenWerks> yes that will work if it is a desktop file.
[15:29] <OvenWerks> You may want to edit it a bit.
[15:29] <OvenWerks> if you right click on it and choose to open it with mousepad it should be easy.
[15:29] <silkairways> What should i edit?
[15:29] <OvenWerks> there may be a Catagories line
[15:30] <OvenWerks> if not you should add one as the last line it should look like: Categories=AudioVideo;Player;
[15:30] <OvenWerks> That will put it in the media playback submenu.
[15:31] <silkairways> Awesome
[15:31] <silkairways> Let me try this
[15:31] <OvenWerks> you may also want to add an Icon=parole line if it doesn't have an icon yet
[15:33] <OvenWerks> This what I think the file should look like: www.ovenwerks.net/paste/electronplayer.desktop
[15:33] <silkairways> Okay thank you
[15:40] <silkairways> Seems the group is wrong
[15:40] <OvenWerks> group?
[15:41] <silkairways> The launcher doesn't work it says does not open with group
[15:42] <OvenWerks> This the the same launcher that worked before editing? or the one I sent?
[15:43] <silkairways> I edited it to what you sent i guess i should have made that a seperate file under applications?
[15:44] <OvenWerks> Interesting
[15:44] <silkairways> It launched from the start menu though
[15:44] <OvenWerks> The file I sent should just work. Ity may need to be chmod +x though.
[15:45] <silkairways> Right chmod +x i have heard of that how would i do that to a file?
[15:45] <OvenWerks> if you right click in an empty space in the file manager you can select open terminal here.
[15:46] <OvenWerks> then you can chmod +x electronplayer.desktop
[15:47] <silkairways> Oh okay i see
[15:47] <silkairways> Let me try
[15:47] <OvenWerks> If your file has a different name use the file name you have
[15:47] <silkairways> Does it matter what folder of the file manager im in?
[15:47] <OvenWerks> you can see the file name with ls
[15:56] <silkairways2> I lost connection
[15:56] <silkairways2> Username taken lol
[15:57] <OvenWerks> ya your connect hasn't gone away yet on irc... give it a few minutes
[15:57] <OvenWerks> there,
[15:58] <silkairways2> Oh lol
[15:59] <silkairways> Cool
[16:03] <silkairways> Okay so i just created a new launcher the way i did before
[16:03] <silkairways> So i have it in menu and desktop now thank you
[16:03] <silkairways> For all the help
[16:03] <OvenWerks> you are welcome.
[16:05] <silkway> Shoot
[16:05] <silkway> I lost my connection and chat history this time
[16:05] <silkway> I messed up
[16:05] <silkway> No biggie
[16:06] <silkairways> I'm on androirc and clicked use full screen
[16:06] <silkairways> And it reset the whole app
[16:07] <OvenWerks> Anoying...
[16:07] <silkairways> Are you an ubuntu studio developer?
[16:07] <OvenWerks> sometimes :)
[16:07] <silkairways> Part time? Lol
[16:08] <OvenWerks> I have other projects I work on
[16:08] <silkairways> That's cool
[16:08] <silkairways> I love ubuntu studio
[16:08] <OvenWerks> the menu in Studio is mostly my work.
[16:08] <silkairways> Wow really
[16:09] <OvenWerks> The icons are all someone elses artwork though.
[16:09] <silkairways> Awesome thank you and all the team for your hard work
[16:09] <OvenWerks> your welcome.
[16:09] <silkairways> I used to be a fedora fan honestly but 2 years ago i converted
[16:10] <silkairways> Ubuntu used to be sluggish when installed to a USB not anymore
[16:11] <OvenWerks> if you want to see the back scroll for irc you can try: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntustudio.html
[16:11] <silkairways> Of thanks
[16:12] <silkairways> Do you know anything about qubes
[16:12] <OvenWerks> it only gets updated once an hour though.
[16:13] <silkairways> That has what i need thank you!
[16:16] <silkairways> I am trying to start a small business so ubuntu studio is exactly what i need
[16:16] <cfhowlett> good to hear!  what type of biz, pray tell?
[16:17] <silkairways> Social media marketing
[16:17] <silkairways> The easiest cheapest business i could think of
[16:17] <silkairways> I'm a mechanical engineer so it's a side project
[16:17] <cfhowlett> consider doing a write up of your ubuntustudio experience for the magazine?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !fcm
[16:18] <silkairways> Hey i can do that!
[16:18] <silkairways> That sounds fun
[16:18] <cfhowlett> excellent!  quite a few business type experiences in those pages, so you'll be in good company!
[16:19] <silkairways> I can write it up as a business user or a personal user
[16:20] <silkairways> Which would be better
[16:20] <silkairways> I use it both ways lol
[16:20] <cfhowlett> your choice ... so long as it references when/how/why you do the *buntu
[16:20] <silkairways> Okay I'll check it out
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> cfhowlett: Do you know if there's a reason why Ubuntu Studio's logo isn't on the front cover of FCM yet all of the other flavors are (not to mention Mint which isn't an official flavor but a derivitive)?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> Eickmeyer, I do not and that is my most aggravating angsty issue with ubuntu reporting
[16:21] <cfhowlett> I have told them more than once.  bear in mind that fcm is an UNofficial ubuntu publication.
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> cfhowlett: Then I'm glad we're on the same page.
[16:23] <cfhowlett> I even emailed the logos once
[16:24] <Eickmeyer> Did they ever answer?
[16:24] <Eickmeyer> I mean, I'd love to know the rationale.
[16:25] <silkairways> That's annoying
[16:26] <silkairways> Ubuntu studio is one of the most important projects for the common people and becomes i feel
[16:26] <silkairways> Newcomers*
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> silkairways: I agree. That's why I got involved in the project to begin with.
[16:28] <silkairways> I dont even like linux mint personally
[16:28] <silkairways> It's way overrated
[16:29] <silkairways> I'm literally about to buy a nexus 5 to install ubuntu touch
[16:29] <Eickmeyer> Well, this is a place for Ubuntu Studio discussion, so if we want to talk about other distros or topics, we have #ubuntustudio-offtopic for that. :)
[16:30] <Eickmeyer> This channel is intended to be support only, but I tend to be a bit lenient about that since it's never super busy.
[16:31] <silkairways> I came here for support
[16:31] <silkairways> And got it so thank you guys
[16:32] <Eickmeyer> You're quite welcome. OvenWerks is the man.
[16:34] <silkairways> Yes awesome
[16:35] <silkairways> Not to b off topic but where do. I submit a write up for the zine
[16:39] <silkairways> Ill figure it out thanks guys
[16:39] <silkairways> Ttyl
[16:40] <silkairways> o/
[20:27] <vanderaalle>  is there anyone using Atom? I have this strange thing, my compose key doesn't work there, while it's ok in all other apps. Just curious if it was happening to someone else
[23:01] <OvenWerks> vanderaalle: are you talking about the development software? ( https://atom.io/ ?)
[23:02] <OvenWerks> which compose key? I don't have anything like that.
[23:13] <vanderaalle> OvenWerks: no, the compose key (also deadkey) to get e.g. ß on a US keyboard. I have set AltGr as a compose key
[23:14] <vanderaalle> and sorry, yes, Atom.io
[23:16] <vanderaalle> in Italian we have a lot of ù, à, è, é, so it's crucial to have a keyboard shortcut
[23:24] <OvenWerks> So it sounds like atom does a key grab
[23:26] <OvenWerks> Which sort of makes sense, I have seen the oposite problem where the DE grabs the key combo and the application never sees it.
[23:28] <vanderaalle> well, maybe, but it's the only application that actually does it, preventing me from using it :). On OSX it worked like a breeze, I find it a bit bizarre
[23:28] <vanderaalle> of course, it's an Atom issue, just asking, thanks!
[23:29] <OvenWerks> Does atom have its own way of asigning shortcuts that could work?
[23:30] <OvenWerks> The mac DE eco system is different in a lot of ui ways.
[23:30] <OvenWerks> macos has standard ways of linking to a number of system tools
[23:31] <OvenWerks>  Even audio plugins are dealt with using system tools
[23:32] <OvenWerks> vanderaalle: have you noticed if you have the same trouble with the chromium browser?
[23:33] <OvenWerks> (says it runs on electron which uses code from chrome)
[23:33] <vanderaalle> OvenWerks: thanks, I'm also asking Atom community. I haven't chromium installed
[23:34] <OvenWerks> unless electron has changed, it uses chrome code for gui
[23:35] <vanderaalle> chromium works fine
[23:35] <OvenWerks> ok, thats about as far as I know.
[23:36] <vanderaalle> ok, thanks!
[23:36]  * OvenWerks uses Geany for a sw editor.