jibelhi all01:16
willcookemorning all01:26
willcookemorning pieq01:40
willcookeI took those crimps off your desk and gave them to cwayne01:41
kenvandinegood morning willcooke and jibel01:58
willcookehi kenvandine, how goes?01:59
pieqwillcooke, perfect! I forgot to give them back to you yesterday, sorry!01:59
kenvandinewillcooke: good01:59
kenvandineopening up stable/ubuntu-19.10 channels for arm64 snaps for xnox :)01:59
kenvandinehe's building images02:00
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pieqjibel, willcooke : Tonghua Night Market. It's all along the Linjiang street, so the easiest way to get there is: https://frama.link/adBP0wkA05:57
jibelpieq, thanks06:04
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:35
willcookehi oSoMoN06:35
oSoMoNhey willcooke06:35
didrockshey oSoMoN, willcooke06:36
oSoMoNeverything alright in the East ?06:36
oSoMoNsalut didrocks06:36
willcookehey didrocks06:37
willcookeall good here!06:37
willcookejibel is looking for more scary things to eat06:38
jibelwillcooke, https://iot.eclipse.org/resources/iot-developer-survey/iot-developer-survey-2019.pdf06:40
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mptLaney, update-manager has explicitly said “I don’t want to be focused” when it opens automatically. Maybe that signal has gotten lost, or maybe Mutter is ignoring it?07:09
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marcustomlinsonmorning jibel willcooke kenvandine oSoMoN didrocks07:57
willcookehi marcustomlinson07:57
jibelHey marcustomlinson07:58
marcustomlinsonIf you go home without an upset stomach jibel I'll be impressed :P07:59
* marcustomlinson got an upset stomach just seeing the photos...08:00
marcustomlinsonyo Laney08:02
willcookemorining Laney08:05
didrocksgood morning marcustomlinson, Laney!08:08
Laneyhi marcustomlinson willcooke didrocks, what's new?08:20
didrocksLaney: nothing much, yourself?08:21
marcustomlinsonthis job :P08:21
seb128good morning desktopers08:27
marcustomlinsonmorning seb12808:27
Laneymarcustomlinson: don't worry, soon you'll be old like us08:27
didrockshey seb12808:27
Laneydidrocks: also not too much08:27
seb128hey marcustomlinson, Laney08:27
seb128lut didrocks08:27
Laneyclematis looking good this morning #smallthings08:27
Laneymoin seb128, how's it going?08:28
seb128good! we had a nice dinner at the restaurant yesterday evening :-)08:28
seb128shame that summer is gone though, that was nice08:30
Laneythere's always 202008:30
marcustomlinsonScotland's 2018 summer was beautiful. Last year it was a Thursday08:31
GunnarHjGood morning seb128, Laney! Do any of you have time to review the MP:s at bug #1823778?08:42
ubot5`bug 1823778 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "Unable to set Serbian as Language" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182377808:42
LaneyAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH thanks, will try to soon08:45
seb128hey GunnarHj08:47
seb128thx laney08:47
GunnarHjLaney: Ok.08:49
xnoxdidrocks, jibel - can i ask you questions about canary images? =)10:43
xnoxi see that livefs builds complete, but then nothing gets published.10:43
xnoxi.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20190425.1/10:44
xnoxin http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/eoan/daily-live-20190425.1.log10:45
xnoxit looks like it is trying things, but then does nothing useful10:45
xnox===== Publishing =====10:45
xnoxThu Apr 25 08:17:17 UTC 201910:45
xnoxNo desktop image for amd64!10:45
xnoxNo images produced!10:45
xnoxthis in turn breaks the CI of regular Ubuntu desktop images. As utah, can't handle empty 25.1 publication10:45
xnoxcan the canary images, somehow not publish into the regular ubuntu desktop location? and not polute the /daily-images location?10:46
xnoxoh it looks like today CI managed to catch 25 build of desktop https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/view/Eoan/10:48
xnoxso testing is all good.10:48
xnoxstill interested in canary images, and whether you expect ubuntu-cdimage to actually publish something. Or are you only interested in cronned livefs builds at the moment?10:48
Laneythere was an MR10:55
Laneysil2100 was looking at it and needed to discuss it with vorlon or something10:55
sil2100Yeah, let me poke Steve about that10:59
sil2100I'd like his input on how we should proceed10:59
* sil2100 writes that down not to forget10:59
xnoxah, i see.11:01
xnoxright, cause i looked around on what's deployed, and it didn't look like there were enough pieces to assemble and publish canary11:01
LaneyTrevinho: if you want to rebase your mutter/shell and prepare SRU bugs I can upload those11:03
sil2100xnox: yeah, it's not ready yet, it's running as a subproject now so each build of canary is separate from the ubuntu desktop one so it results in an unnecessary publisher bump11:03
sil2100xnox: we could just enable it to publish, but I'm not sure it that's the right way to go11:03
sil2100xnox: anyway, subprojects were never really supposed to be used for things like these11:04
xnoxsil2100, wait till i ask for arm64 desktop images ;-)11:04
sil2100xnox: if it's a separate image, it should be a separate project most probably ;p11:04
xnoxsil2100, or like a subarch.11:05
xnoxsil2100, canary could be a subarch11:05
sil2100Yeah, or that11:06
sil2100Would be weird but yeah11:06
sil2100At least it would 'work correctly' ;)11:06
andyrockLaney: hi! I took a look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/824c3c31a0b9558002bb74699b5542c32e7396ad11:32
andyrockcan it be that during the upgrade from cosmic to disco tracker-store is started before the glib schemas are compiled/installed11:32
Laneyhi andyrock11:33
Laneyif something runs it, like via d-bus activation, I guess that could happen11:34
andyrockand how can we prevent it? like masking the systemd unit until the schemas are installed11:34
Laneyit's not considered 'installed' by dpkg until the schemas are compiled11:34
Laneybut the files are there on the system11:34
Laneyso you can run it11:34
Laneyany idea what that thing is?11:34
andyrocknope, maybe nautilus but I'm not sure11:35
andyrockwould it be possible to mask tracker-store.service until the schemas are compiled? Some magic trick in debian/rules11:36
Laneynot that I know of11:39
* Laney doesn't have a cool idea right now11:44
Laneyit's pretty far from the only thing that could go wrong if you use your system while we're in the middle of performing open heart surgery on it11:47
andyrockyeah, it's not a big issue because it should be a one time issue but we're going to hit the problem again when people will upgrade from bionic to ff11:56
andyrockif the cause is really this11:56
didrocksxnox: we asked sil2100 to publish the image, we have a PR which is needed, but maybe not enough and unreviewed for some weeks (the one Laney pointed out). Last I heard it's in foundation's hand :)12:17
didrocksso keep us posted, we would really like to have that image published12:17
xnoxhar har12:28
sil2100didrocks: I disagree that it's unreviewed!12:32
sil2100didrocks: but yes, it is not enough12:33
didrockssil2100: I think this is the exact case subprojects would have some meaning, if we don't want to use them, they should be removed from cdimage and such :)12:37
didrockssil2100: but I still think that the argument is passed to ubuntu-cdimage, to be ignored (this is why the tests were passing), which is a weird implementation IMHO :p12:38
didrocksstill, there is no course of action hence the "unreviewed" (by the architect)12:38
didrocks(I really think that using another project for this, like it used to be for ubuntu-server-live is a hack)12:39
sil2100didrocks: yeah, actually this was my original understanding of how subprojects should work, but then it turned out it's not - and that actually it's best not to use subprojects if not needed ;p12:45
sil2100didrocks: I guess as per Dimitri's proposition, currently we *could* use subarchs for this, even though conceptually that's not the best fi12:46
didrockssil2100: yeah, don't really like this proposal as well (more hacks on hacks :p) but if subproject is going to be decommissioned, turning this in a real project is fine as well12:47
didrockssil2100: I'll let you follow up on this. Hoping that next week we can have daily published images :)12:47
xnoxis wubi and lupin-casper dead?14:08
xnoxomg it's still going strong https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/releases14:10
Trevinhosil2100: hey, would you add eoan to bileto?15:16
sil2100Trevinho: sure o/15:17
sil2100Wanted to do that yesterday but then... I forgot15:17
sil2100Let me do that after the weekly meeting15:17
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sil2100Trevinho: eoan's in Bileto now o/16:59
Trevinhosil2100: thanks :)18:45
TrevinhoLaney: I will, but in hols now so, I'll do it next week at this point... I guess there's not too much hurry for it18:45
Laneysure, not from me anyway18:46

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