| jibel | hi all | 01:16 |
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| willcooke | morning all | 01:26 |
| willcooke | morning pieq | 01:40 |
| willcooke | I took those crimps off your desk and gave them to cwayne | 01:41 |
| kenvandine | good morning willcooke and jibel | 01:58 |
| willcooke | hi kenvandine, how goes? | 01:59 |
| pieq | willcooke, perfect! I forgot to give them back to you yesterday, sorry! | 01:59 |
| willcooke | :D | 01:59 |
| kenvandine | willcooke: good | 01:59 |
| kenvandine | opening up stable/ubuntu-19.10 channels for arm64 snaps for xnox :) | 01:59 |
| kenvandine | he's building images | 02:00 |
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| pieq | jibel, willcooke : Tonghua Night Market. It's all along the Linjiang street, so the easiest way to get there is: https://frama.link/adBP0wkA | 05:57 |
| jibel | pieq, thanks | 06:04 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:35 |
| willcooke | hi oSoMoN | 06:35 |
| oSoMoN | hey willcooke | 06:35 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, willcooke | 06:36 |
| oSoMoN | everything alright in the East ? | 06:36 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:36 |
| willcooke | hey didrocks | 06:37 |
| willcooke | all good here! | 06:37 |
| willcooke | jibel is looking for more scary things to eat | 06:38 |
| oSoMoN | :) | 06:38 |
| jibel | willcooke, https://iot.eclipse.org/resources/iot-developer-survey/iot-developer-survey-2019.pdf | 06:40 |
| willcooke | thx | 06:41 |
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| mpt | Laney, update-manager has explicitly said “I don’t want to be focused” when it opens automatically. Maybe that signal has gotten lost, or maybe Mutter is ignoring it? | 07:09 |
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| marcustomlinson | morning jibel willcooke kenvandine oSoMoN didrocks | 07:57 |
| willcooke | hi marcustomlinson | 07:57 |
| jibel | Hey marcustomlinson | 07:58 |
| marcustomlinson | If you go home without an upset stomach jibel I'll be impressed :P | 07:59 |
| * marcustomlinson got an upset stomach just seeing the photos... | 08:00 | |
| Laney | yo | 08:02 |
| marcustomlinson | yo Laney | 08:02 |
| willcooke | morining Laney | 08:05 |
| didrocks | good morning marcustomlinson, Laney! | 08:08 |
| Laney | hi marcustomlinson willcooke didrocks, what's new? | 08:20 |
| didrocks | Laney: nothing much, yourself? | 08:21 |
| marcustomlinson | this job :P | 08:21 |
| didrocks | heh | 08:23 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:27 |
| marcustomlinson | morning seb128 | 08:27 |
| Laney | marcustomlinson: don't worry, soon you'll be old like us | 08:27 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:27 |
| Laney | didrocks: also not too much | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, Laney | 08:27 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:27 |
| Laney | clematis looking good this morning #smallthings | 08:27 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:28 |
| Laney | moin seb128, how's it going? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | good! we had a nice dinner at the restaurant yesterday evening :-) | 08:28 |
| seb128 | shame that summer is gone though, that was nice | 08:30 |
| Laney | there's always 2020 | 08:30 |
| marcustomlinson | Scotland's 2018 summer was beautiful. Last year it was a Thursday | 08:31 |
| willcooke | :dd | 08:32 |
| willcooke | ;DD | 08:32 |
| oSoMoN | :) | 08:33 |
| GunnarHj | Good morning seb128, Laney! Do any of you have time to review the MP:s at bug #1823778? | 08:42 |
| ubot5` | bug 1823778 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "Unable to set Serbian as Language" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823778 | 08:42 |
| Laney | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH thanks, will try to soon | 08:45 |
| seb128 | hey GunnarHj | 08:47 |
| seb128 | thx laney | 08:47 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok. | 08:49 |
| xnox | didrocks, jibel - can i ask you questions about canary images? =) | 10:43 |
| xnox | i see that livefs builds complete, but then nothing gets published. | 10:43 |
| xnox | i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20190425.1/ | 10:44 |
| xnox | in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/eoan/daily-live-20190425.1.log | 10:45 |
| xnox | it looks like it is trying things, but then does nothing useful | 10:45 |
| xnox | ===== Publishing ===== | 10:45 |
| xnox | Thu Apr 25 08:17:17 UTC 2019 | 10:45 |
| xnox | No desktop image for amd64! | 10:45 |
| xnox | No images produced! | 10:45 |
| xnox | this in turn breaks the CI of regular Ubuntu desktop images. As utah, can't handle empty 25.1 publication | 10:45 |
| xnox | can the canary images, somehow not publish into the regular ubuntu desktop location? and not polute the /daily-images location? | 10:46 |
| xnox | oh it looks like today CI managed to catch 25 build of desktop https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/view/Eoan/ | 10:48 |
| xnox | so testing is all good. | 10:48 |
| xnox | still interested in canary images, and whether you expect ubuntu-cdimage to actually publish something. Or are you only interested in cronned livefs builds at the moment? | 10:48 |
| Laney | there was an MR | 10:55 |
| Laney | sil2100 was looking at it and needed to discuss it with vorlon or something | 10:55 |
| Laney | IIRC | 10:55 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, let me poke Steve about that | 10:59 |
| sil2100 | I'd like his input on how we should proceed | 10:59 |
| * sil2100 writes that down not to forget | 10:59 | |
| xnox | ah, i see. | 11:01 |
| xnox | right, cause i looked around on what's deployed, and it didn't look like there were enough pieces to assemble and publish canary | 11:01 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubuntu-cdimage/support_ubuntu_subproject/+merge/365598 | 11:02 |
| Laney | Trevinho: if you want to rebase your mutter/shell and prepare SRU bugs I can upload those | 11:03 |
| sil2100 | xnox: yeah, it's not ready yet, it's running as a subproject now so each build of canary is separate from the ubuntu desktop one so it results in an unnecessary publisher bump | 11:03 |
| sil2100 | xnox: we could just enable it to publish, but I'm not sure it that's the right way to go | 11:03 |
| xnox | ack | 11:04 |
| sil2100 | xnox: anyway, subprojects were never really supposed to be used for things like these | 11:04 |
| xnox | yeah | 11:04 |
| xnox | sil2100, wait till i ask for arm64 desktop images ;-) | 11:04 |
| sil2100 | xnox: if it's a separate image, it should be a separate project most probably ;p | 11:04 |
| sil2100 | eeek | 11:04 |
| xnox | sil2100, or like a subarch. | 11:05 |
| xnox | sil2100, canary could be a subarch | 11:05 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, or that | 11:06 |
| sil2100 | Would be weird but yeah | 11:06 |
| sil2100 | At least it would 'work correctly' ;) | 11:06 |
| andyrock | Laney: hi! I took a look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/824c3c31a0b9558002bb74699b5542c32e7396ad | 11:32 |
| andyrock | can it be that during the upgrade from cosmic to disco tracker-store is started before the glib schemas are compiled/installed | 11:32 |
| andyrock | ? | 11:33 |
| Laney | hi andyrock | 11:33 |
| Laney | if something runs it, like via d-bus activation, I guess that could happen | 11:34 |
| andyrock | and how can we prevent it? like masking the systemd unit until the schemas are installed | 11:34 |
| Laney | it's not considered 'installed' by dpkg until the schemas are compiled | 11:34 |
| Laney | but the files are there on the system | 11:34 |
| Laney | so you can run it | 11:34 |
| Laney | any idea what that thing is? | 11:34 |
| andyrock | nope, maybe nautilus but I'm not sure | 11:35 |
| andyrock | would it be possible to mask tracker-store.service until the schemas are compiled? Some magic trick in debian/rules | 11:36 |
| Laney | not that I know of | 11:39 |
| * Laney doesn't have a cool idea right now | 11:44 | |
| Laney | it's pretty far from the only thing that could go wrong if you use your system while we're in the middle of performing open heart surgery on it | 11:47 |
| andyrock | yeah, it's not a big issue because it should be a one time issue but we're going to hit the problem again when people will upgrade from bionic to ff | 11:56 |
| andyrock | if the cause is really this | 11:56 |
| didrocks | xnox: we asked sil2100 to publish the image, we have a PR which is needed, but maybe not enough and unreviewed for some weeks (the one Laney pointed out). Last I heard it's in foundation's hand :) | 12:17 |
| didrocks | so keep us posted, we would really like to have that image published | 12:17 |
| xnox | =) | 12:28 |
| xnox | har har | 12:28 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: I disagree that it's unreviewed! | 12:32 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: but yes, it is not enough | 12:33 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 12:33 |
| didrocks | sil2100: I think this is the exact case subprojects would have some meaning, if we don't want to use them, they should be removed from cdimage and such :) | 12:37 |
| didrocks | sil2100: but I still think that the argument is passed to ubuntu-cdimage, to be ignored (this is why the tests were passing), which is a weird implementation IMHO :p | 12:38 |
| didrocks | still, there is no course of action hence the "unreviewed" (by the architect) | 12:38 |
| didrocks | (I really think that using another project for this, like it used to be for ubuntu-server-live is a hack) | 12:39 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: yeah, actually this was my original understanding of how subprojects should work, but then it turned out it's not - and that actually it's best not to use subprojects if not needed ;p | 12:45 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: I guess as per Dimitri's proposition, currently we *could* use subarchs for this, even though conceptually that's not the best fi | 12:46 |
| sil2100 | *fit | 12:46 |
| didrocks | sil2100: yeah, don't really like this proposal as well (more hacks on hacks :p) but if subproject is going to be decommissioned, turning this in a real project is fine as well | 12:47 |
| didrocks | sil2100: I'll let you follow up on this. Hoping that next week we can have daily published images :) | 12:47 |
| xnox | is wubi and lupin-casper dead? | 14:08 |
| xnox | omg it's still going strong https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/releases | 14:10 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: hey, would you add eoan to bileto? | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: sure o/ | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | Wanted to do that yesterday but then... I forgot | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | ;( | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | Let me do that after the weekly meeting | 15:17 |
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| sil2100 | Trevinho: eoan's in Bileto now o/ | 16:59 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: thanks :) | 18:45 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I will, but in hols now so, I'll do it next week at this point... I guess there's not too much hurry for it | 18:45 |
| Laney | sure, not from me anyway | 18:46 |
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