[00:11] <xubuntu39i> hello !!
[04:01] <friendlyGoat> hello, im here to ask about rsync. i have it on Debian and Xubuntu and thought it was all set up and perfect. exactly what i needed really but now theres a problem. for some reason with every sync, i lose a little more space. on my PC the drive thats synced to my debian server has gone all the way down to 12gb from 15 and my server itself somehow fell to 6 free gigabytes. whats going on?
[04:01] <friendlyGoat> at its worst i got to 2 free gigabytes.
[04:03] <well_laid_lawn> check the rsync command you are using
[04:04] <well_laid_lawn> it doesn't normally do that without being told to
[04:11] <friendlyGoat> can you elaborate please?
[04:12] <well_laid_lawn> I use rsync and it doesn't use more space than exxpected so it must be something to do with the options you give
[04:16] <friendlyGoat> ahh, lemme find my command for you
[04:17] <friendlyGoat> */6 * * * * rsync -av -delete -e ssh /media/usb0/ pi@insert.ip.here:/home/pi/SERVER
[04:23] <well_laid_lawn> the command for -e should be in quotes and what you have there doesn't seem right
[04:23] <well_laid_lawn> man rsync has an exxample for using ssh
[04:24] <friendlyGoat> gonna check the man and add quotes to the -e
[04:26] <well_laid_lawn> the vverbose option is probably unnecessary in a cron job
[05:24] <Brother> nobody here??
[05:27] <krytarik> Counter assumption based on nothing, awesome! >_<
[07:22] <bodiccea_> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor (1.40GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (1.6 GiB Free) Swap: 7.8 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 231.0 GB / 489.2 GB (258.1 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 710] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h Processor Function 3 • Uptime: 1w 3d 21h 22m 13s
[07:23] <bodiccea_> sorry, pushed wrong button.
[07:32] <bodiccea_> well_laid_lawn, no need quoting ssh, if it is alone (anyway, rsync will not receive these quotes).
[07:32] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[07:37] <bodiccea_> friendlyGoat, "-delete" should be "--delete". So in fact your command is (in this order): ssh -a -v -d -e -l -e -t -e -e ssh SRC DEST.
[07:38] <bodiccea_> I have no idea what it does :-)
[07:44] <bodiccea_> As it works, I think last "-e" takes precedence over the previous ones. The command would become "ssh -a -v -d -e ssh SRC DEST". "-d" means there is no recursion within source directories.
[07:45] <bodiccea_>  friendlyGoat, it is not related to space being freed on your source machine. What makes you think there is a link between the two events (rsync and disk space on *source* machine)?
[08:57] <furycd001> HI Guys. Just done a fresh minimal xubuntu 16.04.6 install using the mini iso & I have 2 questions....
[08:57] <furycd001> 1.. Power manager shows a notification whenever my battery is low. How can I get it to show a notification whenever my batter reaches 100% charge ??
[08:57] <furycd001> 2.. Thunar will not display thumbnails. How do I fix this & make it display thumbnails ??
[08:57] <knome> furycd001, 16.04 is EOL for xubuntu, try 18.04
[08:57] <furycd001> I will upgrade eventually....
[08:58] <furycd001> I'm happy for the mean time....
[08:58] <knome> :)
[08:59] <furycd001> Apart from these two problems my system just works so I see no need to upgrade at the moment. I only done a fresh install because I wanted to un-bloat my system....
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> I guess the was a bit, why you went to 16.04 for a desktop at all, since 18.04 has already been out for a while
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> also xubuntu doesn't have a mini iso? presumably you mean the ubuntu mini iso, and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> or do we misunderstand
[09:00] <knome> i understand. 16.04 became EOL just barely though, so the xfce components you mention you have problems with are going to be affected the most, so 18.04 should already give you improvements over them
[09:03] <furycd001> Yea I mean I used the ubuntu mni.iso & selected whatever the minimal xubuntu option was. I went with 16.04 because that is what I was using and wasn't quite ready to upgrade yet.
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> "ready to upgrade"?
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> you were reinstalling anyhow :)
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> anyhow, sorry for the pedantism :)
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> I get that 16.04 was a known quantity
[09:04] <furycd001> No problem :)
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> though usually once a .1 for an LTS has been published, it's usually fairly safe to upgrade :)
[09:05] <pmjdebruijn> it's a bit of an arbitrary point, but as a rule of thumb it works fairly well
[09:06] <furycd001> Yea I used to always upgrade like that but since 16.04 I've been kind of wanting to put if off as long as possible....
[09:06] <pmjdebruijn> and if you're settings up system new again, it probably makes more sense to now reinstall using the official xubuntu 18.04.2 iso, as opposed to now getting everything setup usin 16.04 and them upgrading in a few month
[09:07] <furycd001> I don't have any plans to reinstall any time soon so I'll most likely just upgrade and hope for the best.
[09:09] <pmjdebruijn> furycd001: aren't you putting yourself in cyclic reasoning, as not doing a clean 18.04 reinstall, but upgrading is the riskier approach, leading to the fear of moving to newer distros
[09:10] <furycd001> Hmmmm I guess I am.
[09:10] <pmjdebruijn> again, i'm aware it's easy for me to make assumptions on the other end of the line here :)
[09:10] <pmjdebruijn> so take everything with a grain of salt :)
[09:11] <Unit193> Whereas for me it's the other way around, if I had to re-install every time I wouldn't bother, but the ability to upgrade means I tend to stick with the latest.
[09:11] <pmjdebruijn> to each his own
[09:11] <furycd001> Everyone likes their own thing :)
[09:12] <pmjdebruijn> i'm merely pushing to ge-examine your choices :)
[09:12] <pmjdebruijn> and see if it still makes sense
[09:13] <furycd001> I get you ;) :)
[09:14] <pmjdebruijn> also
[09:14] <pmjdebruijn> furycd001: https://superuser.com/questions/258633/why-is-thunar-not-creating-and-showing-thumbnails-of-images
[09:14] <pmjdebruijn> do you have tumbler
[09:14] <furycd001> Yep
[09:14] <furycd001> Have it installed.
[09:15] <furycd001> I also have ffmpegthumbnailer installed.
[09:15] <pmjdebruijn> are you missing thumbnails on everything? or just certain types of files
[09:15] <furycd001> Appears to be everything....
[09:16] <pmjdebruijn> simple image files like jpgs too?
[09:16] <pmjdebruijn> do you have gvfs?
[09:16] <furycd001> Yep.
[09:17] <furycd001> Yep gvfs is installed.
[09:19] <furycd001> This is how one of my picture folders looks >> http://i.imgur.com/MEsuycc.png
[09:20] <pmjdebruijn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1043976/fix-thunar-doesnt-show-image-video-thumbnails-in-xubuntu-18-04/1044319
[09:20] <pmjdebruijn> sorry I've never had any issues with Thunar myself
[09:20] <pmjdebruijn> though I've always installed using the official ISOs
[09:23] <furycd001> I've never had a problem myself until now....
[09:27] <Iolo> Do you see tumblerd going crazy in htop after opening an image folder?
[09:29] <furycd001> I can't seem to see it in htop.
[09:31] <furycd001> Yea I'm looking at htop and can't see it being listed.
[09:32] <Iolo> Then I have no clue, sorry.
[09:32] <pmjdebruijn> hwo should tumblerd be started? in the desktop session?
[09:32] <furycd001> Thank you anyway :)
[09:33] <pmjdebruijn> furycd001: did you logout/login after installing tumblerd?
[09:33] <furycd001> Yes I did. My laptop has actually been turned off since installing.
[09:33] <pmjdebruijn> if you start tumblerd on a console, does it say anything?
[09:34] <pmjdebruijn> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd
[09:35] <furycd001> when run I get >> tumblerd: command not found
[09:38] <pmjdebruijn> you need to specific full path
[09:38] <pmjdebruijn> as I pasted
[09:38] <pmjdebruijn> although I wonder if it's usually launched via dbus
[09:38] <furycd001> Oppps sorry. Here you go....
[09:38] <furycd001> (tumblerd:26406): tumblerd-WARNING **: Failed to start the thumbnail cache service: Another thumbnail cache service is already running
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> did you install any other desktops before xfce?
[09:40] <furycd001> Nope just xfce
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> can you post your ps axuf on pastebin
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> or just check it yourself
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> if tumblerd is already active
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> htop only shows it, if it's really really active
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> but it might not show if it's idle
[09:42] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/jvrv
[09:46] <pmjdebruijn> nothing too strange there
[10:00] <furycd001> It's just star
[10:00] <furycd001> It's just strange because when I last re-installed my I didn't come across these two problems....
[10:38] <furycd001> I just managed to get thumbnails working with thunar again :) For some super strange reason /home/furycd001/.cache/thumbnails/ was owned by root. I changed the permission to my user & thumbnails now work :)
[10:39] <furycd001> I just need to get my battery notification to show 100% charged now....
[10:42] <Spass_laptop> furycd001: do you have "Show notifications" option enabled in the Power Manager settings?
[10:43] <furycd001> Yep I do. I get a notification when my batter is low (I've it set at 15%), just not when it is fully charged 100%
[14:28] <_thelion_> Hi there, i can't change the theme of the notifications (I'm running Xubuntu 18.04). I discovered that xfce4-notifyd isn't running.
[14:30] <_thelion_> And I can't start / enable it with "systemctl start / enable xfce4-notifyd.service"
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> _thelion_: I don't think notifications are a system service
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> since it's a user login specific thing
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> (although that line is beginning to blur)
[14:34] <pmjdebruijn> it's launched by systemd --user apparently
[14:34] <fiet> Correct, it's a XFCE service
[14:34] <pmjdebruijn> _thelion_: did you ever "play" with the notification before?
[14:35] <fiet> Isn't that supposed to start from .xsession?
[14:35] <pmjdebruijn> as I said, lines are blurring :)
[14:35]  * pmjdebruijn is always in doubt these days
[14:35] <_thelion_> No, I just want to change the theme of it.
[14:36] <_thelion_> There is a section in the settings.
[14:36] <pmjdebruijn> do you have any other notification system installed, that might be conflicting?
[14:36] <_thelion_> But if I chnage something there is no effect
[14:36] <pmjdebruijn> 'notify-send w00t'
[14:36] <pmjdebruijn> does that do anything
[14:37] <fiet> _thelion_: Is this what you're looking for? -> https://docs.xfce.org/apps/notifyd/theming
[14:37] <_thelion_> Yeah notify-send is working
[14:39] <_thelion_> fiet: there are themes installed; but if I chosse one --> no changes in the pop-up notification.
[14:40] <_thelion_> I think there is another notification system that's creating conflicts
[14:43] <xubuntu60w> Hi all, I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu 18.04 from a USB stick and am unable to log in using the username and password I set during install. The only potential strange thing I did is that the username and password are very short (only 2 characters). Is there a known issue about this?
[14:45] <pmjdebruijn> _thelion_: do you have any other desktops installed?
[14:45] <_thelion_> I have xfce and i3wm
[14:45] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu60w: I'm surprised the installed allowed a 2 char password :)
[14:46] <xubuntu60w> pmjdebruijn: My best guess is that it shouldn't have and I'm hitting some security block
[14:46] <xubuntu60w> pmjdebruijn: I'll try with a longer password.
[14:46] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu60w: you'd have to check the pam log from a live cd or something along those lines
[14:47] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu60w: technically it's a bug in the installer then, probably true for regular ubuntu too
[14:47] <xubuntu60w> pmjdebruijn: what's the place to file bugs against xubuntu
[14:52] <pmjdebruijn> launchpad AFAIK
[14:52] <pmjdebruijn> just like regular ubuntu
[14:52] <pmjdebruijn> again, this is a ubiquity bug, and it's a shared component as far as I know
[14:54] <xubuntu60w> Ok, thanks for the quick response. I'll file a bug after I've confirmed that was the issue
[14:54] <pmjdebruijn> again you'd have to check syslog of the problem system to be sure
[14:55] <pmjdebruijn> relevant syslog entries would be very helpful in the bug report
[14:55] <pmjdebruijn> but you'd have to mount the partition with the logs from the live cd to get at them of course
[14:59] <xubuntu60w> Is there a bug reporting GUI tool included in the live CD that automatically gathers logs and helps you file the bug with launchpad?
[17:09] <jejijojujitzu> hello?
[17:12] <Spass> hello jejijojujitzu, we can see you
[17:16] <jejijojujitzu> it looks like in Xubuntu 18.04.2 LTS if I lock the screen it puts the monitor to sleep. any similar experience? my search for a solution has not been successful
[17:34] <brainwash> jejijojujitzu: replace light-locker with another screen locker
[17:37] <jejijojujitzu> yes, i wasnt' sure about that though: has it anything to do with the greeter screen?
[17:39] <brainwash> the greeter/unlock screen runs in a different VT, and some hardware/drivers seem to have problems with VT switching
[17:39] <jejijojujitzu> i mean, will I loose lightDM?
[17:39] <brainwash> no
[17:40] <brainwash> do you experience an issue with the monitor going to sleep?
[17:40] <brainwash> like, it does not wake up again
[17:40] <jejijojujitzu> no, no
[17:41] <brainwash> actually, it could be the intended behavior
[17:41] <brainwash> putting the monitor to sleep
[17:41] <jejijojujitzu> well, in other OS it is not
[17:41] <jejijojujitzu> and it was not like that in old Xubuntu versions IIRC
[17:42] <brainwash> instead of just blacking the screen, and after some minutes turning off the monitor
[17:42] <jejijojujitzu> no, the screen shouldn't even be "blacked": you should just go back to the login page imho
[17:43] <jejijojujitzu> at least this is how it worked on Windows and on old Xubuntu
[17:43] <jejijojujitzu> *login screen
[17:45] <brainwash> "Make the greeter behave a bit more like a screensaver if used as un/lock-screen by blanking the screen"
[17:45] <brainwash> that is what the source code says
[17:46] <brainwash> Xubuntu 19.04 has the new xfce4-screensaver (optional)
[17:46] <jejijojujitzu> hrm... I lost you there
[17:47] <jejijojujitzu> well i'm on 18.04 for now
[17:47] <jejijojujitzu> nice to know though
[17:47] <pmjdebruijn> jejijojujitzu: Ctrl+Alt+F1 -> Ctrl+Alt+F8 and it wakes up again
[17:47] <pmjdebruijn> annoying I know :)
[17:48] <brainwash> not the problem
[17:48] <pmjdebruijn> brainwash: it only occurs with kernel 4.18 not 4.15
[17:48] <pmjdebruijn> so presumably it's DRM related
[17:48] <brainwash> but jejijojujitzu does not have this problem
[17:49] <pmjdebruijn> oh?
[17:50] <brainwash> it's about light-locker putting the monitor to sleep, and not showing the unlock screen immediately
[17:50] <jejijojujitzu> exactly
[17:50] <brainwash> so, best solution would be to use a different screen locker
[17:51] <brainwash> xscreensaver is the classic pick
[17:51] <jejijojujitzu> I'll try then. thanks very much for the help
[18:05] <jejijojujitzu> well, it "replaced" lightDM, but I guess it's just a matter of settings
[18:22] <Spass> jejijojujitzu, gnome-screensaver is also a possibility, if you really don't like how xscreensaver looks, I'm testing it currently and it works fine on my machine
[18:23] <Spass> but not sure if it will solve your issue, worth testing tho
[18:31] <jejijojujitzu> yes, it does work, but I wanted lightDM as a greeter, as it is by default. if I don't manage to do that I'll try gnome-screensaver
[18:43] <jejijojujitzu> lol it looks like I've found a perfect and simpler solution by chance
[18:44] <Spass> pls share
[18:44] <jejijojujitzu> on whisker menu options just replace lock screen command with "dm-tool switch-to-greeter"
[18:44] <jejijojujitzu> I can't say how elegant it is, but I think it is. you do the same with the shortcut and that's it
[18:44] <jejijojujitzu> there's no need to install anything
[18:45] <jejijojujitzu> I don't know if there could be any security issue with this
[18:47] <Spass> yeah, that's what I'm wondering too
[18:50] <sorokinvic> Hi! In cosmic, why does Software Updater not show Dingo release when in Settings 'notify about any new Ubuntu version' is set? 'do-release-upgrade -c' shows 19.04 is available.
[18:52] <brainwash> jejijojujitzu: this does not lock the user session
[18:53] <brainwash> jejijojujitzu: it simply just forwards you to the greeter screen
[18:54] <jejijojujitzu> and what's the difference
[19:10] <brainwash> jejijojujitzu: you can switch back to the VT which runs your user session, and it will be unlocked
[19:11] <brainwash> via Ctrl+Alt+F[number]
[19:11] <jejijojujitzu> ok
[19:12] <brainwash> it does say "switch-to-greeter"
[19:12] <jejijojujitzu> yeah I suspected something like that
[19:12] <brainwash> not "lock"
[19:13] <brainwash> actually, you could give another greeter a try
[19:13] <brainwash> lightdm-gtk-greeter is not the only one
[19:14] <jejijojujitzu> I actually am ok with it, it's just that I was not able to use it together with xscreensaver
[19:14] <jejijojujitzu> oh unless my problem comes from ligthDM itself...
[19:14] <brainwash> doubt it
[19:15] <brainwash> the greeter is the visual frontend for lightdm
[19:15] <brainwash> xscreensaver is a single app solution
[19:16] <brainwash> compared to light-locker + lightdm + lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:17] <brainwash> sorokinvic: maybe it's a staged rollout
[19:17] <brainwash> sorokinvic: you could ask in #ubuntu
[19:20] <sorokinvic> brainwash thx, will try that
[19:33] <jujijoujoutsou> well, gnome-screensaver works fine
[19:33] <jujijoujoutsou> and looks certainly better. still I have two different greeters now, but oh well
[19:38] <jujijoujoutsou> I guess for consistency I should set the gnome-greeter to load after boot
[19:41] <brainwash> jujijoujoutsou: you cannot do that
[19:42] <jujijoujoutsou> oh ok
[19:43] <brainwash> for consistency you would want xfce4-screensaver
[19:43] <brainwash> available via https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce
[19:45] <fizzizist> is it still possible to set up electric sheep as a screensaver or are those packages too old and deprecated?
[19:48] <jujijoujoutsou> brainwash: I'll keep that option in mind. thank you again for the support ^ ^
[22:05] <phillippe> hery guys
[22:06] <phillippe> im having a problem with xubuntu latest version with nvidia drivers latest version (for my 1060) and screen tearing
[22:06] <phillippe> for example, when i move konversation window, the screen flashes like it's not fast enough
[22:06] <phillippe> it happens with videos online too
[22:41] <xubuntu64w> Anyone know how to boot in safe mode for 19.04? ndiswrapper module is crashing and preventing me from running any sudo commands so I need to start without loading that module