[02:11] <jcb2016> wxl: you around?
[02:11] <wxl> jcb2016: yep. what's up?
[02:12] <jcb2016> You work for Ubuntu?
[02:13] <wxl> i already answered this one :)
[02:13] <jcb2016> What you say I go from
[02:13] <jcb2016> Mobile to desktop a lot
[02:14] <wxl> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/04/25/%23lubuntu.html#t08:02
[02:14] <jcb2016> I ask cause I tried to join the mailing list and it said that it was maintained by wok
[02:14] <jcb2016> Wxl*
[02:15] <wxl> most of what's done in ubuntu, i would say, is not done by canonical employees
[02:16] <jcb2016> Ok
[02:22] <rowan> Hello
[02:22] <wxl> hi
[02:22] <rowan> I'm surprised that anyone is on this.
[02:23] <rowan> This looks like a very basic Discord.
[02:23] <wxl> it's irc.
[02:24] <rowan> Well yeah!
[02:24] <wxl> it's more appropriate to say discord is a fancy irc
[02:24] <rowan> What does IRC stand for?
[02:24] <wxl> in much the same way that you can say a motorcycle is a fancy bicycle, but you can't say (at least not justfiably so) that a bicycle is a basic motorcycle
[02:25] <wxl> internet relay chat
[02:25] <rowan> Well I learned something today.
[02:25] <wxl> me, too. see the cpuid command.
[02:26] <rowan> I'm going to have to install it first.
[02:27] <rowan> I'm running Lubuntu on this old Acer Aspire One netbook.
[02:27] <rowan> This is going to take a while.
[02:27] <wxl> there's almost no one on irc. for example, on this server alone there's only an average of 82977 users http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode
[02:27] <wxl> cpuid is pretty small
[02:28] <rowan> Well, this netbook is awful.
[02:28] <wxl> sounds like fine to work with :/
[02:28] <rowan> Takes a whole minute to load the desktop when you sign in...
[02:29] <rowan> HOLY COW THIS COMMAND SHOWS SO MUCH STUFF!
[02:29] <wxl> :)
[02:29] <wxl> the nice thing is that it actually explains in human terms what all the flags mean
[02:29] <rowan> That is nice.
[02:30] <wxl> so which version of lubuntu you running?
[02:30] <rowan> Let me see...
[02:30] <wxl> `lsb_release -a`
[02:31] <rowan> Well it's running "Ubuntu 18.10"
[02:31] <rowan> Later than my main machine!
[02:32] <wxl> ahh good you're running lxqt
[02:32] <wxl> the new version, 19.04, just came out
[02:32] <rowan> Well I did choose the latest.
[02:32] <wxl> let me guess. you downloaded from lubuntu.net :/
[02:32] <rowan> It was a pain to get this laptop running again.
[02:32] <rowan> Yes
[02:33] <rowan> It would hang on installation
[02:33] <rowan> So after trying some modes, it worked.
[02:34] <wxl> yeah ok, so just so you know: lubuntu.net is not the lubuntu website
[02:34] <rowan> Wait
[02:34] <rowan> I don't remember
[02:34] <rowan> lol
[02:34] <wxl> lubuntu.me, as you can see in the channel topic, is the official website
[02:34] <rowan> I was like .net???
[02:34] <rowan> What???
[02:34] <wxl> for us the latest would certainly be 19.04
[02:34] <rowan> I don't remember .net
[02:35] <wxl> i just looked and they're linking to 18.10
[02:35] <rowan> It was a while ago
[02:36] <wxl> well in case it's not obvious the version comes in the form of YY.MM where YY is the two digit year and MM is the two digit month of release, both zero padded
[02:36] <rowan> Like 3 months
[02:36] <wxl> that said, if "a while ago" was before april, you would have seen 18.10
[02:37] <rowan> So the .net one is fake?
[02:37] <rowan> Or is it just a download page?
[02:37] <rowan> For the .me
[02:37] <wxl> fake isn't the appropriate word. it just has no relationship to the actual developers of lubuntu
[02:38] <rowan> Oh
[02:38] <rowan> So just a redisribution.
[02:38] <wxl> not even that really XD
[02:38] <rowan> Just some mirror?
[02:39] <wxl> it's the site of one of the original co-founders of lubuntu, who hasn't been involved in aeons
[02:39] <rowan> So it's the old site.
[02:39] <wxl> basically, but he keeps "updating" it
[02:39] <wxl> quotes because he's slow to do it
[02:40] <rowan> Oh
[02:40] <rowan> Ok
[02:41] <wxl> just know that lubuntu.me IS the official site
[02:41] <rowan> Well thanks!
[02:41] <rowan> So all of the search engines made the .net version top and the .me version 2nd.
[02:41] <wxl> nope, not all of them
[02:41] <wxl> try duckduckgo
[02:42] <rowan> Google, Duckduckgo, Bing, Yahoo is what I have tested.
[02:42] <rowan> Well they should sort out this mess.
[02:42] <wxl> .me is the featured listing on ddg
[02:43] <wxl> i know -_-
[02:43] <rowan> Interesting
[02:43] <wxl> we've been working on it
[02:43] <rowan> Yeah
[02:43] <rowan> I guess .net is much more likely to be on the top than .me
[02:43] <wxl> i'm not sure that the popularity of the ccTLD has anything to do with SEO
[02:43] <rowan> IDK
[02:44] <rowan> Just thinking stuff up.
[02:44] <rowan> Also how private is Quassel IRC?
[02:44] <wxl> here's one thing i can show you, knowing that canonical is the company behind ubuntu: if you `host lubuntu.me` or `whois -H lubuntu.me` you'll see that not only does canonical own lubuntu.me, but they serve it, too
[02:45] <rowan> Ok, took notes.
[02:45] <rowan> Thanks!
[02:45] <wxl> do the same with .net and you'll see some very different results
[02:46] <wxl> anyways so irc is a protocol
[02:46] <wxl> freenode is an irc network
[02:46] <wxl> they use a patched charybdis ircd server
[02:47] <wxl> quassel is a client
[02:47] <wxl> irc client that is
[02:47] <rowan> Well it's just so many *free* chat programs collect information on you and sell it for a profit.
[02:47] <wxl> just to get all of our terms right :)
[02:47] <wxl> and they are almost all for profit companies
[02:48] <wxl> none of the above are
[02:48] <rowan> Makes sense
[02:48] <rowan> Anyway I'm going to sleep!
[02:48] <rowan> Bye
[02:48] <wxl> nighty night
[02:48] <rowan> Night
[10:37] <player1_ready> hi I use lightdm in lubuntu boot. Can I change defauld background in lightdm ?
[10:45] <player1_ready> what is lubuntu-desktop? should I install it manually? or is installed already?
[11:01] <Aurost> Hi guys
[11:01] <Aurost> I have a problem with Lubuntu, i'm trying to install it on an old eee pc netbook
[11:01] <Aurost> 1201k
[11:02] <kc2bez> player1_ready: you can change your background in lightdm, check out this article on stack exchange https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/86690/change-lightdm-background
[11:03] <kc2bez> player1_ready: lubuntu desktop should already be installed if your desktop is working for you. There should be no reason to install manually.
[11:03] <Aurost> I run it from usb but i can't reach the desktop... i have a black screen with the following error: [98.901954] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0f.0: CORB reset timeout #1, CORBRP = 0
[11:04] <kc2bez> Aurost: where did you download the iso from and have you checked the hashes?
[11:05] <player1_ready> thanks guys
[11:06] <kc2bez> yw player1_ready
[11:08] <kc2bez> Aurost: this chapter in our manual discusses downloading and installing Lubuntu https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/Installing_lubuntu.html
[11:08] <Aurost> I downloaded it from the official website
[11:08] <kc2bez> ok have you checked the hashes?
[11:08] <Aurost> i already read it, i followed that instructions
[11:08] <Aurost> no
[11:09] <kc2bez> Corruption can occur and if even 1 bit of information is off then it may not work right. Checking the hash verifies that the image is intact.
[11:10] <Aurost> Ok i will do. Thnks
[12:20] <romulo> oiiii
[13:44] <player1_ready> hi I use tp-link stick to connect to wifi and always says disconnected, when I remove tp-link stick and plug it again it says connected, how to fix this
[13:45] <player1_ready> is there a line in NetworkManager.conf to fix this?
 player1_ready: try this: sudo rfkill unblock all
[13:51] <player1_ready> So what do I type next?
 only that
 that should unblock it if it's blocked, worked for some broadcom issues I have had.
[13:53] <player1_ready> ok thanks
 did it worked?
[15:57] <gofio> is it too complicated to go from ubuntu 18.04 into lubuntu? already upgraded from eol ubuntu 17.10 into ubuntu 18.04
[16:43] <player1_ready> should upgrade from Lubuntu 18.10 to 19.04 in an old laptop, CPU pentium4 3.2 GHz, 2Gb ram?
[16:45] <gofio> how many ram cards does it have player1_ready ?
[16:45] <player1_ready> 2 cards
[16:45] <gofio> 1g ram each?
[16:45] <player1_ready> yes
[16:46] <gofio> I had one like that and upgraded to 2g ram each card if I remember correctly havin 4g total at the end
[16:46] <player1_ready> yes but pentium 4 supports 2G
[16:46] <player1_ready> not more
[16:46] <gofio> wasn't too costly, but not always one can do it
[16:47] <gofio> wow missed the pentium 4 part
[16:47] <gofio> what year is it?
[16:47] <player1_ready> I think 2004
[16:47] <player1_ready> not sure
[16:47] <gofio> gee, thanks. Mine is 2008 and already old...
[16:48] <gofio> how has been going lubuntu 18.04 so far for you player1_ready in that configuration?
[16:48] <gofio> or 18.10 I mean
[16:48] <player1_ready> it is ok 18.04 and 18.10
[16:48] <player1_ready> runs
[16:48] <player1_ready> not many problems
[16:49] <gofio> I'm looking to change from ubuntu 18.04 to lubuntu 18.04 player1_ready
[16:49] <gofio> what web browser you're using?
[16:49] <player1_ready> firefox
[16:49] <gofio> how many windows can you open?
[16:49] <player1_ready> I didnt try to open many I opened 1 or 2
[16:50] <gofio> I'm kinda impressed with that configuration you can use firefox
[16:50] <player1_ready> I tried to open falkon
[16:50] <gofio> ok, 1 or 2, thanks
[16:50] <player1_ready> maybe it opens more
[16:50] <player1_ready> I dont kno
[16:50] <gofio> right now I have 11
[16:50] <player1_ready> falkon was stuck in black screen
[16:51] <gofio> thanks player1_ready
[16:51] <gofio> hope your upgrade goes well
[16:52] <player1_ready> but I think that pentium 4 3.2 GHz is powerful enough, and the only thing that slows it down is the missing of good software
[16:54] <gofio> how much ram does it take the system alone? from rebbot
[16:55] <gofio> reboot
[16:59] <Varunish> Hi Does Lubuntu support all the packages supported in Ubuntu Versions
[17:28] <heysoundude> is it possible for me to set my desktop to follow the ntp server on my router?
[17:32] <kc2bez> It is but they didn't wait around for the answer.
[17:34] <kc2bez> heysoundude: which version of lubuntu?
[17:34] <heysoundude> 18.04
[17:35] <kc2bez> I think it is the same in later versions so let's start with this. In the terminal type timedatectl status
[17:36] <heysoundude> what am I looking for in the results
[17:37] <heysoundude> ?
[17:38] <kc2bez> Does it spit anything out? It will let us know what is installed. I don't have an 18.04 install in front of me.
[17:40] <heysoundude> local time, universal time, rtc time, time zone, system clock synchronized (yes), systemd-timesyncd.service active (yes), RTC in local TZ (no)
[17:40] <kc2bez> ok good
[17:41] <kc2bez> You will need to edit  the /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf file
[17:41] <heysoundude> ok...nano here I come
[17:42] <kc2bez> yup that will work. just `sudo nano /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf`
[17:42] <heysoundude> nano tells me its unwritable
[17:43] <kc2bez> sudo in front of that
[17:43] <heysoundude> ah...done  forgot that part
[17:44] <kc2bez> no worries.
[17:44] <kc2bez> You should see a line that is #NTP
[17:44] <heysoundude> yes i do
[17:44] <kc2bez> change that line to the following
[17:46] <kc2bez> NTP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  where xxx Replaces the IP address of your router
[17:46] <heysoundude> do I need to make the # go away?
[17:46] <kc2bez> yes
[17:46] <heysoundude> thank you
[17:47] <kc2bez> We aren't quite done.
[17:47] <kc2bez> Save and close that after you edit it.
[17:47] <heysoundude> alrighty...
[17:47] <heysoundude> lol I knew that part
[17:48] <kc2bez> then back at the terminal issue a `sudo systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd`
[17:49] <heysoundude> done
[17:49] <kc2bez> After that we can check the status with ` sudo systemctl status systemd-timesyncd`
[17:49] <heysoundude> and now it will sync with my router at every boot?
[17:50] <kc2bez> It will sync on boot yes.
[17:51] <heysoundude> timed out waiting for reply from...I may have mistyped something in nano
[17:51] <kc2bez> Maybe. Or does your router actually provide NTP?
[17:52] <heysoundude> could it be looking for a port on the router?  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx
[17:53] <heysoundude> yes, wirelessly it does...i assume that comes out over ethernet as well
[17:53] <kc2bez> you shouldn't need to specify the port. NTP should be on port 123
[17:54] <heysoundude> hmmm...let me check that something hasn't been changed on my roter.  we did have a brief power outage last night
[17:54] <kc2bez> ok
[17:55] <kc2bez> It might not be a bad idea to remove the # infront of the FallbackNTP=ntp.ubuntu.com line
[17:55] <kc2bez> That way if your router fails to respond you can still sync time.
[17:57] <heysoundude> I'll do that...not only was there a power outage, it updated itself.  this will be fun...
[17:58] <kc2bez> Ah gotcha.
[17:59] <heysoundude> thanks for your help.  I'm going to dig into the router and then come back to this...
[18:00] <heysoundude> I wish my chat client let me print convos...
[18:00] <kc2bez> yw good luck with the router.
 in case any of the usual support people for LUbuntu want to take a stab at helping this person: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1138375/lubuntu-crashes-after-connected-to-the-wifi
[21:58] <Jimmy7> Hello
[21:59] <Jimmy7> Is Lubuntu good ?
[21:59] <Jimmy7> I am going to install it
[21:59] <Jimmy7> LxQt is good they say
[21:59] <Jimmy7> But I don't know
 @Jimmy7 [<Jimmy7> Is Lubuntu good ?], In a lubuntu group probably everybody will say yes