[01:59] <willcooke> morning all
[01:59] <sarnold> hey willcooke :)
[01:59] <willcooke> hi sarnold, going well?
[02:00] <sarnold> willcooke: yeah :) great weather today .. somehow it just helped lift everyone's mood all around town
[02:00] <willcooke> :D
[02:00] <willcooke> niuce
[02:00] <willcooke> nice
[02:00] <sarnold> willcooke: and you've chosen a great moment to arrive, and remind me to do my hobbies, it's still light enough outside for a pleasant evening walk :)
[02:01] <willcooke> sarnold, excellent!  Enjoy the outside :)
[02:01] <sarnold> willcooke: thanks!
[02:01] <sarnold> willcooke: how's it going in taipei?
[02:02] <willcooke> sarnold, it's been a nice week, not too stressful, lots of good ideas to make the desktop experience better for folks who buy a certified laptop but with Windows and then install Ubuntu later, so that they get the same goodness that they would get with the factory Ubuntu image
[02:02] <willcooke> and I'm starting to head home in a couple of hours :)
[02:03] <sarnold> willcooke: oh very nice. it's pretty annoying to have to pick a machine with windows pre-installed, even from our hardware partners :(
[02:03] <willcooke> yeah totally
[02:03] <sarnold> willcooke: cool cool :) I hope the travel home isn't too bad :)
[02:03] <willcooke> cheers!
[02:06] <jibel> Hi all
[03:00] <duflu> Oh. Morning willcooke, jibel and sarnold
[03:10] <willcooke> hi duflu
[03:13] <duflu> I hope it has been a pleasant week
[03:13] <duflu> modulo jet lag
[03:23] <jibel> Morning duflu
[03:30] <duflu> willcooke, jibel, which way did you go? Via Hong Kong, Singapore, other?
[03:30] <duflu> Or over the arctic
[03:30] <willcooke> duflu, came here via HK, going home via KL
[03:30] <willcooke> which adds another 5 hours
[03:30] <willcooke> but means I can leave in ~ 1 hr
[03:31] <duflu> Well then /enjoy/
[03:31] <duflu> as much as possible
[03:31] <willcooke> Never been to Malaysia before.  Not sure if this really counts
[03:31] <willcooke> No stamp = didn't happen I guess
[03:32] <duflu> I've never been there either
[03:33] <duflu> Was just thinking if you are going via Singapore then there's something new worth seeing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYc9jDuRN4w
[03:33] <duflu> But you're not :)
[03:33] <willcooke> heh
[03:50] <willcooke> duflu, just watched that video - wow
[03:50] <duflu> willcooke, yeah. I remember a few years ago I saw it under construction and just assumed it was another terminal
[03:50] <willcooke> duflu, would you be able to visit if you went through?  Would you go through immigration?
[03:51] <willcooke> ah yes you would, so I expect not
[03:51] <duflu> willcooke, since I've been to Singapore now and want to go again, I would make it a proper visit
[03:51] <willcooke> :)
[03:52] <duflu> Probably Hong King too. My only visit to Hong Kong was spent mostly in bed with the flu
[03:52] <duflu> * Hong Kong
[03:56] <willcooke> :(
[03:56] <willcooke> rough
[04:02] <duflu> To be fair, there was also a typhoon which limited mobility
[04:05] <willcooke> right, heading to the taxi, then to the airport.  See you all next week
[04:05] <willcooke> o/
[04:05] <duflu> \o
[06:12] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:52] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut didrocks
[06:52] <oSoMoN> happy Friday!
[06:52] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:53] <didrocks> hey duflu, morning oSoMoN
[06:53] <didrocks> happy Friday to you too!
[06:57] <cpaelzer> hi, was there any change to the default keybindings recently (bionic)
[06:58] <cpaelzer> I used to move the window tiling left half / right half / full screen with Meta + left/right/up
[06:58] <cpaelzer> this still works, but in "addition" meta + left and right now also move me from the graphical session to the console
[06:58] <cpaelzer> like ctrl+alt+F# would do
[06:58]  * cpaelzer looks for keybinding config ...
[06:59] <didrocks> probably a console-setup bug, was it in your list of updates and you didn't restart since?
[06:59] <jamesh> cpaelzer: does it still happen if you reboot?
[06:59] <cpaelzer> I reboot maybe once a month (=when I travel)
[06:59] <didrocks> cpaelzer: bug #520546 (owned by foundations)
[06:59] <ubot5`> bug 520546 in kbd (Ubuntu Eoan) "Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520546
[06:59] <didrocks> so everytime you update console-setup, this would happen
[06:59] <didrocks> (as you can see an old bug)
[06:59] <jamesh> I know at one point snapd was doing something that re-enabled the kernel keybindings on some package upgrades
[07:00] <cpaelzer> I can try at EOD later today (I'm not good at reatining my work through a reboot)
[07:00] <didrocks> yeah, no other workaround for now than rebooting, unfortunately :/
[07:00] <cpaelzer> 2019-04-24 01:00:50 configure console-setup:all 1.178ubuntu2.8 <none>
[07:00] <jamesh> be careful about copying text to the clipboard
[07:00] <didrocks> cpaelzer: good candidate :p
[07:00] <cpaelzer> that would match
[07:01] <jamesh> having ctrl+C kill the gui session is a pain
[07:01] <didrocks> yeah, everytime, I have to reboot quickly, can't survive this for long :)
[07:02] <cpaelzer> Thanks - this really seems to be my issues
[07:02] <cpaelzer> -s
[07:02] <cpaelzer> a reboto will fix it then
[07:02] <cpaelzer> and there is a package in -proposed with a fix
[07:02] <didrocks> cpaelzer: if it is, please comment, if it's not, just keep us posted :)
[07:03] <didrocks> yep, I have hopes as well in the -proposed version
[07:04] <cpaelzer> I will after reboot check that is gone, reinstall what I have to check if I'm affected again and then reboot again to do a proposed update
[07:04] <cpaelzer> that should help verifying this
[07:04] <didrocks> excellent!
[07:05]  * cpaelzer writes a note ...
[07:56] <marcustomlinson> morning all!
[07:57] <didrocks> morning marcustomlinson!
[07:59] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[08:01] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[08:24] <Laney> OOPS been babysitting autopkgtest stuff
[08:24] <Laney> hi there
[08:24] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:43] <didrocks> hey Laney :)
[08:44] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[10:17] <cpaelzer> jamesh: didrocks: indeed a reboot did help to fix the odd meta key behavior
[10:18] <cpaelzer> jamesh: didrocks: but I wanted to verify bug 520546 in that regard
[10:18] <ubot5`> bug 520546 in kbd (Ubuntu Eoan) "Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520546
[10:18] <cpaelzer> jamesh: didrocks: yet re-installing console-setup and/or keyboard-configuration no more triggers the issue for me
[10:18] <cpaelzer> with that I'm lacking any proof that I could use to then call the version in proposed good
[10:18] <cpaelzer> for now I'm happy things work again ...