[00:00] <gofio> as soon as I have it running again I can give you the link if you want lotuspsychje
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> gofio: We would like to ask that you stay in one channel for your help. Since you have been getting help in ##linux, it is better to stay with that group. They were able to take you this far, they are the most aware of your situation and what it took to get you up and running.
[00:00] <gofio> just wanted to know if could keep going in the process or had to do the livepatch better first
[00:01] <gofio> well they were into some other conversation and this was 110% ubuntu question pragmaticenigma
[00:01] <gofio> and as matter of fact pragmaticenigma your answer was right on point
[00:06] <opilab> im having some issues launching minecraft, i know this is ubuntu chat but as the issue is with ld.so im wondering if theres any packages i can install/reinstall to rememedy this issue. the error looks like so:
[00:06] <opilab>  Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-lookup.c: 111: check_match: Assertion.....
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> opilab: It is not something that we can support. Minecraft is supplied by Microsoft and they have setup forums and services for customer support. It's best that you seek help there as there is a better chance of someone having encountered the bug and what they did to fix it
[00:17] <peter_> hi
[01:07] <georgeisbusting> window show 3
[01:08] <Krennic> hmm
[01:10] <nshirelaptop> why does gedit freeze so hard when opening files? I tried to open up a 1mb binary dump and it completely freezes the UI to where I have to sigterm it
[01:12] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: because gedit isn't designed to open binary files. It is scanning the entire file to try and determine the character set of the characters. Since there are no markers, it tries all of them
[01:14] <nshirelaptop> any way to get it to just open it as plaintext without trying different charsets?
[01:14] <nshirelaptop> maybe better to just use a hex editor I guess
[01:15] <nshirelaptop> I was just a little surprised considering notepad in windows will throw pretty much anything you throw at it
[01:15] <nshirelaptop> *handle anything you throw at it
[01:16] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: it's better to use a hex editor... gedit is meant for plain text... for a 1 MB file, it has to scan all 1,048,576 character blocks individually. Windows notepad doesn't do character interpretation, it always assumes it's a 128bit ASCII file
[01:16] <donofrio_> jeremy31, that was it, now I have video and can sudo startxfce4 but still seems wrong lol
[01:19] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: "sudo startxfce4" leads to root owning your desktop and "you" are no longer authorized to access :(
[01:25] <tacomaster> Some one told me yesterday that intel had a propitiatory driver for the integrated graphics. I am just seeing if that is true because I am not seeing any in ubuntu's 3rd party driver app.
[01:25] <Krennic> hmm
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: there is a driver produced by Intel, it is not for general usage however. It is distributed to OS makers to include with thier OSes, there is on advantage to installing it yourself.
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> *this is no advantage
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> * there is no advantage (my apologies I cannot seem to type tonight)
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> Krennic: Is there an Ubuntu support issue that the volunteers here can assist you with?
[01:28] <tacomaster> Ok because the main thing that I am seeing is really bad performance in the low end games that I used to be able to run in windows with 60+ fps. We are talking mostly logic games that don't have demanding graphics. In ubuntu I am getting barely movable graphics.
[01:28] <tacomaster> I would say I am getting around 5-10 fps
[01:29] <tacomaster> I understand that it may just be poorly written for linux but I am just covering my bases
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: there are a lot of factors. If the game is running through any sort of emulator, you're going to experience performance issues (many windows games run via wine)
[01:30] <tacomaster> linux native
[01:30] <tacomaster> The game is crusader kings 2
[01:31] <tacomaster> It can be pretty cpu intensive but very light on the gpu
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: Crusader Kings 2 distributed by Steam?
[01:31] <tacomaster> Yes
[01:32] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: Did you enable steam play?
[01:33] <tacomaster> I did but that was just mostly for other games. If I enable it on a global level will it try to run all games in the windows versions?
[01:34] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: yes (I'm not aware of enabling it on a per game level) ... steam play is an emulation layer however. And the game you mentioned is only available for windows and mac, meaning that on linux it's using some sort of middle ware to run the game
[01:35] <tacomaster> I mean in a few weeks it will be a non issues because I am getting a gtx 1070 but I just didn't have the money up front
[01:35] <tacomaster> It is a native linux game I can show you
[01:35] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: If you are going to upgrade the graphics capabilities, then I highly recommend that you wait for your new graphics card. Doing a bunch of tweaks now will mean you will have to remember what they were in case they interfere with the new graphics setup
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: I'm looking at the game right now, while it doesn't specifically say it, it is running via steam play. It was verified to work, which means the you don't have to enable it yourself
[01:37] <GalzuFromQ> How the F do I disable the passwd prompt in LXDE?
[01:37] <GalzuFromQ> It's driving me bananas, I'm about to just start using it as root.
[01:37] <tacomaster> pragmaticenigma: I was playing this game on linux before steam play was a thing
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | GalzuFromQ
[01:38] <tacomaster> I have a system requirements for linux in the steam client as well with the steam os logo
[01:38] <GalzuFromQ> Is F a bad word?
[01:38] <GalzuFromQ> Sorry.
[01:38] <GalzuFromQ> I'm ex Army Infantry, I try and tone it down but it slips when I'm agitated.
[01:39] <tacomaster> pragmaticenigma: I just turned off steam play completely and I was able to get back into the game
[01:40] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: Consider this area a public park with small children and I think it'll help. As for the password prompt, are you asking to be able to automatically login?
[01:41] <GalzuFromQ> Gotcha pragmaticenigma
[01:41] <GalzuFromQ> pragmaticenigma, I would like to disable gksudo or what ever it is.
[01:41] <GalzuFromQ> I can't even keep up anymore.
[01:41] <GalzuFromQ> When I started using *NIX there wasn't sudo, or gksudo.
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: the reason for the move to sudo and gksudo (gksudo is being slowly discontinued in favor of other methods) is to make it harder for someone malicious to gain access to your computer. Admittally, I get annoyed to, but once my machine is up and running I rarely have to use it
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: May I ask what you are doing that requires being run as gksudo or with sudo?
[01:43] <GalzuFromQ> I know the reason for it, I was just stating it wasn't around when I began.
[01:44] <GalzuFromQ> You could make a group and user named TIMMAY and it'd do the same thing as sudo.
[01:44] <sysadmin> or you could install Kali and run it all as root
[01:45] <sysadmin> everything except chrome
[01:45] <GalzuFromQ> Kali, lol.
[01:45] <GalzuFromQ> OR, I could log into this Peppermint distro I'm using as root.
[01:45] <GalzuFromQ> BUT, I KNOW there's a way to disable it.
[01:45] <pragmaticenigma> tacomaster: looking at the system specifications for the game, it appears that they have tested and recommend AMD or nVidia graphics cards for that game for best performance. I believe that once you receive your new card, everything will be much better for you
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: The short answer is, it isn't easy to disable. The usage of sudo and gksudo is now deeply rooted in Ubuntu and not made easy to circumvent
[01:46] <GalzuFromQ> Lord.
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: You can edit the sudo users file, to enable sudo to work without a password, but I don't think it applies to gksudo
[01:46] <GalzuFromQ> Because adding the program to visudo isn't doing it.
[01:47] <GalzuFromQ> This is what I've done https://pastebin.com/raw/dFMDksfu
[01:49] <GalzuFromQ> Maybe I need to go to the #debian room.
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: Did you uncomment the line in /etc/sudoers for looking in the other folder?
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: #debian will send you right back here if you are running Ubuntu
[01:50] <GalzuFromQ> pragmaticenigma, I did and it kicked back an error saying there was an error in the file.
[01:50] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: can you paste the error message for me please?
[01:50] <GalzuFromQ> Hold.
[01:51] <GalzuFromQ> pragmaticenigma, https://pastebin.com/raw/Vk8nnvbR
[01:52] <GalzuFromQ> Crap, I should have logged in as root at term F1...
[01:53] <GalzuFromQ> Yay, I was still logged in.
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: In the past I've just done this in my sudo file: {user_to_nopass} ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> GalzuFromQ: it's lazy, but it allows me to sudo anything when I need to
[01:58] <pragmaticenigma> I haven't worked much with command alias or the other alias stuff before. That should get you further along. I'll have to readup on the alias parts
[02:02] <GalzuFromQ> Ok pragmaticenigma
[02:03] <donofrio_> Bashing-om, I was unable to start it as my own user but as root xfce4 starts, how do I recover or 'off to the #xfce group' cause I've been lurking there for a few years now ;)
[02:11] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: Who owns the desktop, from the F2 console what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?
[02:25] <texla> Bashing-om, Ubuntu 18.04 fresh install on desktop..Error waiting for unattended uprg to exit..found /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50 unattended-upgrade..says to comment unattended-upgraded:: mail "root";..the comment are // rather than # how do i uncomment IT
[02:28] <Bashing-om> texla: just remove the '//' . and save the file ( you did make a back up, right ?) .
[02:28] <Boyette> hi
[02:28] <tomreyn> hi Boyette
[02:29] <Boyette> i have a strange problem with filezilla application
[02:29] <Boyette> if i type something in there i cant use backspace anymore to correct something.. also after a while the keyboard wont work at all anymore
[02:29] <tomreyn> the keyboard wont work anymore on filezilla or in general?
[02:29] <texla> Bashing-om, I have not done anything yet waitingg for advise never had to deal with // before
[02:29] <Boyette> only in filezilla
[02:30] <tomreyn> Boyette: what's your ubuntu verion?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[02:31] <Boyette> https://termbin.com/9oot
[02:31] <tomreyn> and filezilla version?   apt list --installed filezilla
[02:31] <Boyette> filezilla/bionic,now 3.28.0-1 amd64 [installed]
[02:32] <Boyette> but when i start the filezilla application its 3.41.2
[02:32] <tomreyn> so maybe you installed it as a snap?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> texla: Ar you sure you need to do anything . how nuch time have you given "unattended-upgrade" to complete it's thing ?
[02:32] <Boyette> i dont know how to update it it doesnt update automatically
[02:32] <Boyette> so i always download the newest version from their website
[02:33] <Ben_X> I'm thinking about switching from Ubuntu to Arch Linux
[02:33] <tomreyn> !latest | Boyette
[02:33] <Boyette> ok
[02:33] <tomreyn> i.e. most of the time you don't need / want to have the latest version
[02:33] <Boyette> but i was trying to fix this by updating to the latest version
[02:33] <Boyette> but that also doesnt work
[02:33] <purplepod> filezilla/disco 3.39.0-2 amd64
[02:34] <tomreyn> Boyette: so you're saying the same thing happens on filezilla 3.28.0-1 ?
[02:34] <purplepod> you're on
[02:34] <Boyette> yes
[02:34] <purplepod> oh nvm you're on Bionic
[02:34] <purplepod> ignore me :P
[02:34] <Boyette> ok
[02:34] <Ben_X> Bionic Beaver
[02:34] <texla> Bashing-om, I waited approximately 30 minutes then went to synaptic and downloaded and back to software and it then downloaded 160
[02:34] <tacomaster> Sorry been a long time since I have been using linux. I do remember that net-stat could be used to check open ports but it seems that ubuntu has decided to no longer use this. What is the command to replace it?
[02:35] <tacomaster> wait it was netstat
[02:35] <tomreyn> Boyette: let's try this:   LANG=C ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:35] <purplepod> Boyette, you could try Filezilla from snap, it's on 3.39.0-2, see if it happens on that too
[02:35] <Boyette> https://termbin.com/xukw
[02:36] <Boyette> @ purplepod im already on 3.41.2 with snap
[02:36] <Bashing-om> texla: From terminal what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[02:37] <texla> Bashing-om, On my laptop now will have to try tomorrow sorry
[02:37] <tomreyn> Boyette: hmm, this doesn't look too bad. can you run filezilla (the 3.28.0-1 one) from a temrinal and post and output it prints there from the start till it breaks?
[02:38] <Boyette> if i start it from terminal it starts 3.41.2
[02:38] <Bashing-om> texla: K -
[02:38] <Boyette> dont know why it still list the old version in apps
[02:38] <tomreyn> Boyette: /usr/bin/filezilla
[02:39] <tomreyn> Boyette: /usr/bin/filezilla --version     shoul dreport  FileZilla 3.28.0, compiled on 2017-10-29
[02:39] <Boyette> no
[02:39] <Boyette> it reports:
[02:39] <Boyette> FileZilla 3.41.2 official build, compiled on 2019-03-18
[02:40] <tomreyn> hmm and you ran it with the full path?
[02:40] <tomreyn> like this /usr/bin/filezilla ?
[02:40] <Boyette> yes
[02:40] <Boyette> j@HQ:~$ /usr/bin/filezilla --version
[02:40] <Boyette> FileZilla 3.41.2 official build, compiled on 2019-03-18
[02:40] <tomreyn> hmm maybe remove the snap temporarily
[02:42] <tomreyn> Boyette: also, since you seem to have some 3rd party repositories, can you also post this:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[02:42] <tomreyn> i'd just like to see which they are
[02:42] <tomreyn> and whether they might have smuggled some problematic libs onto your system
[02:43] <Boyette> https://termbin.com/958b
[02:46] <sazawal> Hi. I have made a few changes in the file /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gdm3.css. which I want to restore. I tried finding which package contains this file to reinstall it. But the dpkg -S command says "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gdm3.css
[02:46] <sazawal> ".
[02:47] <tomreyn> Boyette: plenty of 3rd party repos. hopefully none of them installed some library which doesn't match with your system.
[02:47] <Boyette> oh
[02:47] <Boyette> what should we do now
[02:48] <tomreyn> Boyette: this is just a theory so far, there coul dbe other reasons. i suggested you temporarily remove the snap to be able to show the terminal output of filezilla
[02:48] <tomreyn> but you didn't respond to this, so i assume you prefer not to?
[02:49] <Boyette> oh
[02:49] <Boyette> i can do it if you can explain to me how :)
[02:49] <tomreyn> sudo snap remove filezilla
[02:49] <Boyette> snap "filezilla" is not installed
[02:51] <tomreyn> Boyette: <Boyette> @ purplepod im already on 3.41.2 with snap
[02:51] <Boyette> i thought it was snap
[02:51] <tomreyn> so one of you isnt telling the truth, either the Boyette now, or the Boyette from 15 minutes ago
[02:51] <Boyette> but apparently its not
[02:51] <Boyette> i was checking how i did that then
[02:52] <Boyette> i used ubuntu-toolchain
[02:52] <tomreyn> Boyette: snap list      shows installed snaps.
[02:52] <tomreyn> what do you mean by "i used ubuntu-toolchain"?
[02:53] <Boyette> this is what i used to update filezilla
[02:53] <Boyette> https://sam.azgor.com/upgrade-filezilla-on-ubuntu/
[02:53] <Boyette> and i downloaded the latest version here
[02:53] <Boyette> https://filezilla-project.org/
[02:54] <tomreyn> so you installed it from a ppa apparently. but you also say you downloaded it from the projects' website
[02:54] <tomreyn> i don't think i can follow
[02:55] <tomreyn> apt list --installed filezilla   prints which version? did we have this before?
[02:55] <Boyette> the ppa was just to install the correct version of libstdc++
[02:55] <tomreyn> lol
[02:56] <jcotton> that sounds like it would break lots of things
[02:56] <Boyette> j@HQ:~$ apt list --installed filezilla
[02:56] <Boyette> Listing... Done
[02:56] <Boyette> filezilla/bionic,now 3.28.0-1 amd64 [installed]
[02:56] <tomreyn> Boyette: you really need to be careful with PPAs, there's a reason they're unsupported here
[02:56] <Boyette> yes it is getting clear to me now
[02:57] <tomreyn> Boyette: 'upgrading' libstdc++ is a way to reliably break your system, possibly beyond repair
[02:57] <Boyette> hmm
[02:58] <tomreyn> i notice this how-to you linkes even recommends installing "the right version of libstdc++.so.6". that's a bad recommendation, i'm afraid.
[02:58] <Boyette> ok
[02:58] <Boyette> what to do now?
[02:59] <tomreyn> also this how.to is for ubuntu 16.04, you have 18.04
[03:00] <tomreyn> Boyette:  dpkg -l libstd* | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:00] <Boyette> https://termbin.com/munuf
[03:01] <tomreyn> hmm those seem to be fine.
[03:02] <Boyette> my issue is something similar like this:
[03:02] <Boyette> https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=38717
[03:02] <Boyette> but this is a topic from 2015.. you would not expect this in 2019
[03:02] <tomreyn> Boyette: oh this sudo cp ... command is also pretty disastrous
[03:03] <tomreyn> your issue is that you followed a bad how-to which was also for a different ubuntu version, which had you replace important files on your computer
[03:03] <Boyette> hmm
[03:04] <sazawal> How do I find which package contains a particular system file? dpkg -S is not working for this file.
[03:04] <tomreyn> i'm trying to understand what was replaced, give me a minute
[03:04] <tomreyn> Boyette: ^
[03:04] <Boyette> ok
[03:08] <Boyette> actually
[03:08] <tomreyn> Boyette: do you still have the filezilla copy you downloaded as per this how-to?
[03:08] <Boyette> yes
[03:08] <tomreyn> Boyette: if you open it in an archive manager, you can look into directory FileZilla3
[03:09] <tomreyn> in there are some subdirectories
[03:09] <Boyette> FileZilla_3.41.2_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[03:09] <tomreyn> yes, open it in an archive viewer
[03:09] <Boyette> yes
[03:09] <Boyette> bin / lib / share
[03:10] <tomreyn> right, you copied these directories and their contents to /usr/
[03:10] <tomreyn> which is where some critical parts of ubuntu are installed, some of which were probably replaced.
[03:11] <tomreyn> you can now either go over these files in those subdirectories one by one, determine whether they were previously installed, and if so, reinstall their proper version from ubuntu, and if not, remove it.
[03:11] <tomreyn> or you can reinstall
[03:12] <Boyette> sudo cp -ravx * /usr/
[03:12] <Boyette> this is what i did
[03:12] <tomreyn> correct
[03:13] <Boyette> but actually
[03:13] <Boyette> i found out something now
[03:13] <tomreyn> i can tell you how to "determine whether they were previously installed, and if so, reinstall their proper version from ubuntu", but just for one of those files, as an example, you'd need to do it for the others.
[03:13] <Boyette> when i do this:
[03:13] <Boyette> sudo ibus exit
[03:13] <Boyette> the keyboard problem is fixed in filezilla
[03:13] <Boyette> for the actual session
[03:14] <tomreyn> so you found a workaround for the immediate issue. but this doesn't fix the problem you created by this sudo command.
[03:14] <Boyette> if its created by that
[03:14] <Boyette> yes
[03:14] <Boyette> or is it related to something else what exitting ibus is doing
[03:15] <tomreyn> it is not easy to tell whether the symptoms you're seeing are those of this problem or a different one.
[03:15] <Boyette> ok
[03:15] <tomreyn> but i'd recommend to focus on the root cause, not the symptoms
[03:15] <Boyette> so how to determine the proper versions
[03:16] <tomreyn> so the first direcoty you copied files from is "bin"
[03:16] <tomreyn> in there is a files "filezilla"
[03:16] <kiara> hi
[03:17] <tomreyn> Boyette: so you copied bin/filezilla to /usr/bin/filezilla, replacing a possibly previously existing "filezilla" file there
[03:18] <Boyette> yes there is a file called filezilla in /usr/bin which was recently modified
[03:18] <tomreyn> Boyette: using the command "dpkg -S /usr/bin/filezilla" you can tell whether there is an ubuntu package installed which used to have a file at this location.
[03:18] <Boyette> filezilla: /usr/bin/filezilla
[03:19] <tomreyn> Boyette: this comand will either output nothing at all, or the name of the package which originally placed a file at this location, and then the location again.
[03:19] <Boyette> ok
[03:19] <tomreyn> in the latter case, as it is here, the "filezilla" package placed the /usr/bin/filezilla file there before you overwrote it
[03:19] <sazawal> tomreyn, tomreyn Hey can you tell me why dpkg -S /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gdm3.css is not giving me any package results?
[03:20] <tomreyn> Boyette: you should thus have this entire ubuntu package reinstalled.
[03:20] <Boyette> ok how to do that?
[03:20] <tomreyn> Boyette: sudo apt install --reinstall filezilla
[03:21] <tomreyn> Boyette: this should replace the /usr/bin/filezilla file, so it'll get a different timestamp
[03:21] <tomreyn> sazawal: it's just a symlink on my system
[03:22] <tomreyn> sazawal: readlink -f /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gdm3.css
[03:22] <sazawal> tomreyn, Thanks
[03:22] <Boyette> done
[03:22] <Boyette> yes now it has date of october 2017
[03:23] <tomreyn> Boyette: yes that's the original timestamp
[03:23] <tomreyn> Boyette: in the other situation, so if the dpkg -S ... command had not returned anything, the right thing to do now would have been to remove this file you were examining
[03:23] <tomreyn> so (don't run this now): sudo rm /usr/bin/filezilla
[03:24] <Boyette> ok
[03:24] <Boyette> when i start filezilla now
[03:24] <Boyette> i get an error
[03:24] <tomreyn> Boyette: yeah don't , you have more files to clean up now
[03:24] <Boyette> ah ok
[03:24] <Boyette> whats next
[03:25] <tomreyn> well all the other files you see in the file archive viewer
[03:25] <tomreyn> anything inside and below of /FileZilla3/
[03:25] <ellyacht> I am currently in a live session of Ubuntu and I am trying to get a tool to create a multiboot USB of linux distros.
[03:25] <Boyette> 3 directories
[03:25] <Boyette> bin
[03:25] <Boyette> lib
[03:25] <Boyette> share
[03:25] <Boyette> in bin there is
[03:25] <Boyette> filezilla
[03:25] <tomreyn> Boyette: yes, still the same
[03:26] <tomreyn> Boyette: you just got muted for sending too many new lines in a short time.
[03:26] <tomreyn> it'll be undone shortly.
[03:27] <tomreyn> Boyette: there's no need to describe the contents of these subdirectories, i have a copy on my screen.
[03:27] <tomreyn> ask your questions about the proicess if you have any
[03:27] <Boyette> ok so in bin directory there is filezilla/fzputtygen/fzsftp/fzstorj
[03:27] <Boyette> ah ok
[03:27] <Boyette> whats next
[03:28] <tomreyn> you iterate over these files, doing what we did for the "filezilla" file
[03:28] <tomreyn> either reinstall the apt package, if any, or delete the file you copied to /usr/...
[03:28] <tomreyn> i just explained this part ;)
[03:29] <Boyette> ok
[03:29] <tomreyn> your other option is still to reinstall
[03:29] <tomreyn> either way, keep in mind not to do this agai
[03:29] <tomreyn> n
[03:30] <tomreyn> if you download some software from some website as an archive file or executable, you're most likely doing something wrong
[03:30] <Boyette> ok
[03:31] <Boyette> the other packages are not installed
[03:31] <Boyette> just only filezilla
[03:31] <tomreyn> that is, until you have more experience, later it can make sense in some situations. but for now, you really should avoid this.
[03:31] <Boyette> ok
[03:32] <tomreyn> so fzsftp was not installed?
[03:32] <Boyette> no
[03:32] <tomreyn> yes, it was
[03:32] <Boyette> all the others were not installed
[03:32] <Boyette> i checked all others in the bin
[03:32] <Boyette> same result
[03:32] <Boyette> gives unable to load package
[03:33] <Boyette> locate
[03:33] <Boyette> sorry
[03:33] <tomreyn> you have two more subdirectories to go
[03:34] <tomreyn> and i'll be gone now, good luck.
[03:34] <Boyette> also
[03:34] <Boyette> all unable to locate
[04:25] <gofio> is it usual that gparted data and df -h command doesn't match up?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> gofio: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a && df -h
[05:03] <ashley_> Hey. just a quick question. Sometimes on boot if I am not connected to my home network the nfs shares in fstab causes my computer to take ages to start. Is there a way to put a time limit on the entry in fstab? So that if nothing happens it just times out?
[05:05] <mouses> ashley_: use 'nobootwait' as a option in those drives via fstab
[05:05] <ashley_> mouses, Thanks. I will give it a go.
[05:05] <mouses> ashley_: can confirm it works in ubuntu, but some distros do it different
[05:05] <mouses> depending what you are running, it may be 'nofail'
[05:19] <ashley_> mouses, That has worked thanks :)
[05:19] <mouses> ashley_: always glad to help when I can :3
[05:51] <Kendos-Kenlen> Hi :)
[05:52] <Kendos-Kenlen> Is there a way to force ubuntu not to use pinentry-gtk ? I am trying to build a package from ssh, but get an error saying gpg-agent is unable to receive key.
[05:53] <Kendos-Kenlen> However, it works well when running from a terminal. So I figured out that it's because pinentry-gtk is called (and as it cannot be run from CLI, it fails). Is there a way to disable this behaviour?
[05:56] <pablo777> hi
[06:24] <student> hello
[06:25] <student> talk
[06:26] <student> done
[06:26] <Clutz> Just install (reinstalled) a new Ubuntu 18.04 OS on sdb (2nd SSD), along side Windows 10 (sda; 1st SSD), but it is no longer booting into grub2. I've tried messing with the boot order to no avail. I can boot either OS, but would like Grub2. Anyone know how to fix this? I can see the EFI partition in GPARTED. I'm currently using a LIVE USB of Ubuntu 18.04
[06:26] <student> hello
[06:27] <student> #ubuntu anyone
[06:27] <mouses> student: if you need help with something, just ask and be patient
[06:27] <Clutz> I have an EFI Partition in fat32 on sdb with Ubuntu, flags: boot, esp
[06:27] <mouses> Clutz: easy fix - got a Ubuntu boot USB handy?
[06:27] <Clutz> On it now :D
[06:27] <Clutz> Looking at GPARTED
[06:27] <mouses> Clutz: make it easier
[06:28] <mouses> Clutz: Boot from live, and do option 2 here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:28] <student> boarinh
[06:28] <student> *g
[06:28] <student> am out
[06:29] <mouses> Clutz: that'll fix your grub2 issues and if not, will provide a nice log for us to look over and hopefully help more
[06:29] <student> fuck this
[06:29] <Clutz> mouses, Awesome! That is exactly where I am. I have this message: https://paste.opensuse.org/view//19877841
[06:30] <mouses> Clutz: never fixed that manually, but boot-repair should do it for you - others here might be more helpful if you want to do it manually
[06:30] <Clutz> mouses, Okay. I appreciate it
[06:30] <mouses> Clutz: windows loves to overwrite boot things and destroy grub from time to time to keep you on your toes :)
[06:31] <ncwz_hlu> hi *verse
[06:31] <Rembo> hello, i want to use 2 ip at the same time, one public 85.x and one private 192.168.x, can someone help?
[06:31] <Clutz> mouses, That is what is odd. I installed Ubuntu AFTER Windows 10. Already had Windows 10 on here, decided to reinstall Ubuntu to fix an issue from a stupid PPA
[06:32] <Clutz> mouses, Even stranger, GPARTED shows the partition right next to Ubuntu where it belongs
[06:32] <mouses> Clutz: yeah, your EFI is hosed and I can't even pretend to understand EFI lol
[06:32] <mouses> Rembo: On the same interface?
[06:32] <Clutz> mouses, https://imgur.com/a/EDrGWOZ
[06:33] <Rembo> mouses, yes
[06:33] <mouses> Rembo: looks like https://askubuntu.com/questions/547289/how-can-i-from-cli-assign-multiple-ip-addresses-to-one-interface will steer you to where you want to be
[06:34] <Clutz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bztWJHYX7V/
[06:35] <Clutz> sdb1 has Grub on it, but won't isn't booting Grub
[06:41] <Chakravanti> So I was able to encrypt the USB HDD with LUKS and ext4 but opening the drive requires sudo.  How do I stop that requirement?  Anyone with the password should be able to unlock the device, right?  How do I make that happen?
[06:51] <NobodywuvsMe> hi
[06:52] <NobodywuvsMe> I have had my grub messed w by a winblows update
[06:53] <NobodywuvsMe> one time, a truecrypt volume was corrupted after a win update. win* is very invasive, destructive
[06:54] <Chakravanti> that's why I don't run the two on the same device
[06:54] <NobodywuvsMe> yep. as far as you not wanting to require sudo for your *crypted usb...tough one
[06:55] <NobodywuvsMe> idk
[06:55] <Chakravanti> There's one them I don't even use so that makes it easier to me.  I don't play games, why would I even use windoze?
[06:55] <NobodywuvsMe> ive been wanting to know same
[06:55] <Chakravanti> have a different drive run GRUB and choose your boot in BIOS on which device to boot
[06:56] <NobodywuvsMe> thats my setup
[06:57] <NobodywuvsMe> so about sudo...it took me some reading to learn the syntax for editing sudoers file
[07:01] <Chakravanti> good thought, thanks
[07:01] <NobodywuvsMe> but its powerful...one can give a group a lmtd set of cmds and members of thzt group can do *SOME* priviledged things..
[07:01] <NobodywuvsMe> my issue is "sudo su"
[07:02] <NobodywuvsMe> that cant be...or sudo is shit,pointless
[07:10] <ncwz_hlu> parallel universe ;-)
[07:12] <catbeard> sudo -s
[07:21] <NobodywuvsMe> so if one invokes 'sudo -s' ...the s switch spawns a shell as root?
[07:27] <Bergcube> I want to install 19.04 on an old HP Pavilion laptop. After boot from the USB the desktop is upside down. The "lock rotation" icon in the upper right pulldown isn't there. Is there any hotkey or other magic that vill turn the screen the correct way?
[07:33] <ducasse> NobodywuvsMe: try 'sudo -i' to invike a root shell
[07:33] <ducasse> *invoke
[07:34] <andre144k> hi all. is there existing a mount timeout option for nfs/cifs? boot-prozess willbe hang when destination nfs/cifs server issnt available correct...
[07:35] <ducasse> andre144k: add 'nofail' to the mount options
[07:36] <andre144k> ducasse, merci !! ill have a look :)
[07:40] <ducasse> andre144k: it will prevent the boot from hanging if the filesystem cannot be mounted
[08:06] <andre144k> ducasse, hmm nofail seems to be only disable message on disply
[08:12] <Abdinaasir> help
[08:12] <Abdinaasir> join
[08:12] <Abdinaasir> solve
[08:13] <Abdinaasir> fix terminal]
[08:13] <Abdinaasir> sudo update
[08:33] <martind_> Hello Guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 18.04. I have a nightly build of node (v13.0.0-nightly2019042580c0b89bbb).
[08:33] <martind_> How can I get it to the normal channel as NPM cannot run properly with this nightly build and wants me to "upgrade"
[08:33] <martind_> The latest stable evrsion is 12.0
[08:36] <martind_> Anyone can help me with that?
[09:17] <mra90> how can I find the module/driver behind a device?
[09:17] <mra90> For example when I do "lsusb" I see a record for one of my USB device, now I would like to find a module which serves that device, how to find it?
[09:36] <jeremy31> mra90: lsusb -t  will show modules
[09:37] <mra90> jeremy31: in "Driver" column?
[09:37] <mra90> and what is a difference between driver/module then?
[09:37] <qwebirc30280> Hi people of the internet! I've got a (hopefully) short question. How can I make notepad++ running with wine the default text editor?
[09:37] <jeremy31> mra90: a kernel module is a driver
[09:40] <pertl> how can I figure out the ipv6 address that is globally unique within my local network?
[09:42] <mra90> jeremy31: thanks
[09:44] <mra90> jeremy31: but what is a difference bwteeen "lsusb -t" and "lsmod | grep usb"?
[09:44] <mra90> both commands return different usb modules
[09:46] <jeremy31> mra90: lsmod | grep usb will just show loaded modules that have usb in the module name, not all modules for usb have usb in the name
[09:47] <mra90> jeremy31: yes but what is a difference between these loaded modules and kernel drivers for usb then?
[09:51] <jeremy31> mra90: I am not sure what you are asking, are you having issues with a USB device?
[10:14] <dillon> who know how to use irc robot?
[10:15] <mra90> jeremy31: I am having issue with usb device yes
[10:15] <mra90> but as for now I try to understand some things
[10:15] <mra90> and one of them is the difference between lsmod | grep usb and kernel usb driver
[10:15] <mra90> how do they differ?
[10:17] <mra90> although I now see they are having the names so they are presuably the same drivers
[10:20] <jeremy31> mra90: I think the actual USB drivers are built into the kernel itself, lsusb only shows external modules
[10:25] <qwebirc29790> windows.es 7
[10:28] <qwebirc29790> windows 10
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc29790: this is the ubuntu support channel
[10:32] <mra90> jeremy31: ok going to the actual problem do you see these 3 external network card adapters https://ibb.co/PFPqyqj?
[10:32] <mra90> can you imagine they are the same, same model, same producer, but on of them is unrecogniable by ubuntu after a plug
[10:33] <mra90> dmesg is empty
[10:33] <mra90> nathing as if it wn't plugged into the port
[10:33] <mra90> nothing*
[10:33] <mra90> why is that? The other two work ok
[10:33] <jeremy31> mra90: Does the one work in other computers?
[10:33] <SimonNL> maybe not being as much the same as you think
[10:34] <mra90> jeremy31: good question, yes! It works properly on windows for example
[10:34] <SimonNL> or broke
[10:34] <mra90> SimonNL: no, its not broken
[10:34] <SimonNL> I see
[10:35] <jeremy31> I would open terminal> tail -f /var/log/syslog    and see what happens when you plug the one in
[10:35] <mra90> jeremy31: ok, isn;t that the same as dmesg?
[10:36] <jeremy31> mra90: sometimes
[10:37] <mra90> jeremy31: so dmesg is silent when I plug/plug this usb device
[10:37] <mra90> the same happens with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[10:38] <jeremy31> mra90: I have to go to work now, later
[10:38] <mra90> jeremy31: ok see you o/
[10:38] <mra90> thansk for advices
[10:54] <qwebirc29790> web
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc29790: only ubuntu questions here please
[10:56] <qwebirc29790> tl- win722n tp- link web siiii
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> !ops | qwebirc29790 random nonsense
[11:12] <kadiro> mra90, try to plug it in a different port
[11:13] <artyx> Anybody here use virt-manager?
[11:13] <kadiro> artyx, just ask your question, somebody will help/answer it
[11:14] <artyx> I have blacklisted my radeon video card and bound to vfio ... now i dont see it in virt-manager, but i can initialize it manually through qemu
[11:21] <artyx> Both device in that iommu are nowhere to be seen... its like that pci device dropped off the face of the earth. it has every device except tha tone listed
[11:25] <Lowl3v3l> I am in the process of upgrading my 19.04 to the new development branch(and yes I know of all dangers this entails). do-release-upgrade -d tells me to update all packages beforehand even though according to apt dist-upgrade all my packages are on the latest version. Third party repos or ppas are not present. Anyone got an idea why do-release-upgrade -d does behave this way?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Lowl3v3l: 19.04 is already final release
[11:27] <Lowl3v3l> lotuspsychje: which is why I am not upgrading to 19.04 but to the development release(aka the future 19.10)
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Lowl3v3l: join #ubuntu+1 for 19.10 please
[11:27] <Lowl3v3l> oh okay, didn't know that one. Thanks
[11:29] <mra90> kadiro: do you think I haven't tried this already?
[11:31] <mouses> mra90: trouble shooting 101 is eliminating the obvious and narrowing down the issue via elimination of possible causes, don't be offended when people offering you help suggest very obvious solutions first.
[11:32] <mouses> mra90: for example; have you plugged said USB device into another system and confirmed it's not a dead USB device?
[11:32] <mra90> mouses: sure I did
[11:32] <mra90> it works perfectly well on windows for example
[11:32] <mouses> mra90: what OS, what version, and what USB device/model?
[11:33] <mra90> Ubuntu 18.04, device is ASIX AX88179 gigabit Ethernet
[11:34] <mra90> mouses: I have three of them ale two work fine with ubuntu one doesn't
[11:34] <kadiro> artyx, just ask your question, somebody will help/answer it again, and that fix the problem
[11:34] <kadiro> mra90, It happened to me with a keyboard and yes i tried and got a same problem as you ( no detection ) but after that i figured that I have to wait and plug it  port
[11:34] <mouses> mra90: results from 'lsmod | grep ax88179*' please?
[11:35] <aiden> hello, I have problems related to the touchpad or I do not detect it. how can i solve?
[11:35] <kadiro> my english is not good, sorry if my sentence look weird
[11:36] <mra90> mouses: ax88179_178a     24576 0
[11:36] <mra90> usbnet 45056 1 ax88179_178a
[11:37] <aiden> mra what it is
[11:37] <mra90> mii   16382 2 subnet, ax88179 178a
[11:37] <mouses> mra90: okay, that's a good sign
[11:37] <mra90> aiden: results from 'lsmod | grep ax88179*'
[11:37] <mouses> mra90: confirm this is already installed
[11:37] <mouses> sudo apt-get install linux-modules-extra-$(uname -r)
[11:38] <mra90> mouses: because as I said
[11:38] <mra90> I have 3 of them
[11:38] <mra90> an I think these two which works ok installed it
[11:38] <aiden> guys i'm sorry but i don't understand english very well ...
[11:38] <mra90> https://ibb.co/PFPqyqj
[11:39] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:39] <aiden> if there are qulache command to insert in the terminal to make the tuochpad back to work you can write it down here. thanks
[11:40] <mouses> mra90: everything looks fine, you have the right kernel module installed, everything needed is there - really not sure, sorry :(
[11:40] <mra90> mouses: I know ;(
[11:40] <mouses> wish I could be of more help on that one.  Perhaps the USB bus on the system is unable to provide enough power?
[11:40] <mouses> have you tried a powered hub?
[11:40] <mra90> how about putting that port in slow mode?
[11:41] <mra90> mouses: no, what about ^
[11:41] <mouses> mra90: that's an idea, but doubt that will reduce voltage needs
[11:41] <mouses> are the devices plugged into a hub or direct into system USB ports?
[11:41] <mra90> mouses: directly to the port
[11:41] <mouses> mra90: laptop/desktop?
[11:42] <mra90> laptop
[11:42] <mouses> got a powered hub handy for testing?
[11:42] <mra90> but it doesn;t matter I think
[11:42] <mra90> mouses: do you know how to dongrade teh speed of this port?
[11:42] <mouses> looks like those things draw a pretty good amount of voltage, you might be overdoing what the USB bus can handle
[11:43] <mra90> mouses: and what this hub will tell me? Asssuming it will start working on it
[11:43] <mouses> mra90: not off the top of my head, sorry - but that's not going to change voltage needs, so I'd not worry about that
[11:43] <mouses> mra90: if it works on a powered hub, that will confirm that the laptop is not supplying enough juice to the USB ports to handle 3 high power devices like that at once
[11:43] <mra90> mouses: oh noo
[11:44] <mra90> I don;t have them connected at one!
[11:44] <mra90> once*
[11:44] <mouses> Oh!
[11:44] <mra90> only one at a time
[11:44] <mouses> sorry, but you said 2 of the 3 work fine?
[11:44] <mouses> right?
[11:44] <mra90> and as I said two are working the third one is not repsonding
[11:44] <aiden> guys, so you can't tell me how can I go back to using the touchpad?
[11:45] <mouses> mra90: likely something physically wrong with that third one
[11:45] <mra90> mouses: the way I test it is I plug one its OK so I unplug it and go with the next one
[11:45] <mouses> mra90: that's my best guess
[11:45] <mra90> mouses: yes however it work perfectly on other oS!
[11:45] <mouses> mra90: no matter what order you do it in, it's the same 'third one' that does not work?
[11:45] <mra90> how would you explain this?
[11:46] <mra90> yes
[11:46] <mouses> mra90: no idea, I'd just return it and swap it out to be sure
[11:46] <mouses> considering 2/3 of them work fine and it's all identical hardware, that kinda means (probably!) that something is wrong with it
[11:47] <mra90> but still it works on windows just fine
[11:47] <mra90> so it is ubuntu who fails to work with this device
[11:49] <Sliss> hmmm somehow in 19.04 gnome alt-tab isn't working as a lot of extentions icons are not showing
[11:49] <mouses> mra90: I'm out of ideas - my bet is damaged hardware on that third one, or some kind of defect
[11:49] <JimBuntu> mra90, Well... it's probably the kernel, but sure.
[11:49] <mouses> mra90: Sorry, wish I could help you more.
[11:49] <mouses> JimBuntu: he's got 3 of the same identical device and 2/3 of them work fine
[11:49] <mouses> that does kinda narrow it down :)
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> Sliss: check extensions from gnome-tweak-tool perhaps
[11:50] <JimBuntu> mouses, sounds like it's not just the hardware, but that unplugging and re-plugging is eventually creating an issue, right mra90  ?
[11:50] <mouses> JimBuntu: quite possible
[11:50] <kadiro> My guess is the device when unpluged suddently cause that problem
[11:50] <mra90> mouses thanks for you support however one more time HW is OK
[11:51] <mra90> JimBuntu: hardware is fine, tested on windows
[11:51] <mra90> the problem is when I plug/uplog into ubuntu its not recognized
[11:51] <mra90> dmesg doesn't show anything
[11:51] <mra90> no action, just silence
[11:51] <JimBuntu> Also to note: Because the hardware works in Windows, does not mean it's OK... that only means that the Windows based drivers might be more resilient to failures. It could be the root hub drivers or the device specific drivers.
[11:51] <mouses> mra90: so, if you shut down the system and boot fresh, and then plug in the first known good device, it works?
[11:51] <JimBuntu> mra90, if dmesg isn't showing anything, it's a root hub related issue.
[11:52] <kadiro> mra90, but why you want to plug unplug many times if one or more work for the first times
[11:52] <mouses> and then if you shut down, reboot, plug in the second device - it works?
[11:52] <mouses> and then if you shut down, reboot, plug in the third device - it works?
[11:52] <mouses> mra90: I'm betting you hotswapping ETH adapters might be causing an issue - try them one at a time, fresh boot for each
[11:52] <mra90> mouses: no with that one it is never recognized, no matter after reboot or not
[11:53] <aiden> I'm on ubuntu 19.04 can you tell me why the touchpad doesn't work for me?
[11:53] <mouses> mra90: what JimBuntu said - just because it works in windows does not tell us very much
[11:53] <mra90> JimBuntu: thats maybe but the question is how to fix/debug that?
[11:53] <mouses> mra90: is the one that is not working 100% identical?  Perhaps it has a different firmware revision / local software difference?
[11:53] <mouses> but my cash is still on faulty hardware
[11:54] <aiden> can you help me please
[11:54] <mra90> mouses: sure I can not guarantee the firmware is the same
[11:54] <JimBuntu> mra90, I would personally start by using hardware that can tell me the voltage/current draw of the device. Try it in Ubuntu and in Windows, look for differences... but only if I really had little choice other than replacing the USB/ETH interface. If you make more than $5 USD per hour, it's probably not financially responsible to invest the time in it compared to replacing it.
[11:54] <mouses> mra90: check that
[11:55] <mouses> aiden: Not much to go on, but first up perhaps fire off a 'xinput list' and confirm the touchpad is recognized and available as a device?
[11:55] <mra90> JimBuntu: I am just curious why it fails on Ubuntu, its not about spent money ;D
[11:56] <mouses> mra90: another idea - happen to have a boot disc/USB for ubuntu handy and able to boot a live session?
[11:56] <mouses> mra90: if so, test said failing device in a live session - that would eliminate 'something you did/changed from defaults in the installed OS' from the possible issues
[11:56] <JimBuntu> mra90, In that case <rubs hands together> there are many troubleshooting steps that be taken. You may even want to try older kernels, maybe newer ones too. Check if that model of hardware was listed as not working via search engines. Check that the same issue exists using every different USB port on the machine/etc
[11:57] <mouses> mra90: as JimBuntu said, it's likely so not worth your time to go down this rabbit hole though, just replace the device.
[11:58] <mra90> Ok guys, thanks for all the suggestion I wil go back to this issue if I find any spare time for it
[11:58] <mra90> thanks again :)
[11:58] <JimBuntu> mra90, my last input probably on this... I have a machine that doesn't like Android devices... but only when they are plugged into a specific root hub, the other 3 root hubs work fine... that one though, has an issue and basically the device shows up as being removed then plugged back in repeatedly.
[11:58] <mouses> mra90: glad to help, sorry we could not figure it out!  best of luck.
[11:59] <aiden> mouses:how can I see if the touchpad recognizes me?
[11:59] <mra90> JimBuntu: I see but this isse is common no matter what port the HW is plugged into
[11:59] <mouses> aiden: perhaps take a look at xinput -list and confirm the touchpad is even recgonized - post results of said command in a pastebin for us
[12:00] <mra90> JimBuntu: what about mofyfing this module/driver for this HW?
[12:00] <termi> Hello
[12:00] <mouses> aiden: from a terminal, that would be xinput -list | pastebinit
[12:00] <JimBuntu> mra90, It's a possibility... need to determine what the issue is 1st, then if the module has any impact on said issue.
[12:01] <aiden> mouses:I try and tell you
[12:01] <mra90> and what suprised me the most is the fact that right after it has been plugged OS doesn't even trigger module init function right? because if that happend I should have seen it in dmesg right JimBuntu ?
[12:02] <JimBuntu> mra90, yes, you should be seeing it in dmesg unless it has maybe caused the hub to stop responding to anything for x seconds or the device itself has been forced into some mode where it's not speaking to the root hub
[12:02] <aiden> mouses:does not tell me
[12:02] <termi> i'm searching for a .... easy to use virtual host management for a multipc gaming dev and other testing distro , with android ubuntu macos and other ... who have a some ideas, tools, or link ?
[12:02] <mouses> aiden: please post the results
[12:03] <mouses> aiden: hard to help you without a proper input device list
[12:03] <mra90> JimBuntu: where I can get the infoo read about the whole process of module/driver assignments and basically what happend when you plug sth into?
[12:03] <mra90> So I plugged sth into usb and what happens next?
[12:04] <JimBuntu> mra90, that's going to be a very fun climb. Start with reading about how USB initialization works as a whole. Then I suppose diving into how the kernel interacts with USB.
[12:04] <aiden> mouses: I like it but I can't use ubuntu very well, thanks to the same help
[12:04] <mouses> aiden: again, once more - from a terminal, 'xinput list | pastebinit'
[12:05] <mouses> that will return a URL, post it here
[12:05] <mra90> JimBuntu: ok, any book recommendation?
[12:05] <mouses> JimBuntu: that's more of a learning cliff vs. curve you're going down xD /s :)
[12:06] <JimBuntu> mra90, I can't suggest anything specific outside of the USB RFQs and whatever searches may turn up.
[12:06] <mra90> JimBuntu: okay thanks
[12:07] <ioria> mra90,   usually you unplug, plug again and check   ' dmesg | tail -30   '
[12:07] <mouses> aiden: not 100% sure 'pastebinit' is installed by default in your version, so you may need to do a 'sudo apt install pastebinit'
[12:08] <mra90> ioria: I do it even better I think
[12:08] <mra90> I mean right before plug/uplug I isse sudo dmesg -c
[12:08] <mra90> in order to clean buffer
[12:08] <mra90> and then simply dmesg
[12:08] <ioria> mra90,   and what's the output ?
[12:08] <mra90> ioria: no output
[12:09] <mra90> dmesg shows nothing after plug/unlpug
[12:09] <mouses> ioria: may want to scroll up, we've done all of this over the last hour
[12:09] <ioria> ok
[12:10] <termi> mra90 what your problem ?
[12:10] <ioria> mra90,   in any case, if you can paste the all 'dmesg' output , we can have a look
[12:10] <mouses> termi: please scroll up, we've discussed the problem/issue at length over the last hour
[12:11] <mra90> termi: I have a working usb device which is not recognized by ubuntu only
[12:11] <termi> i'm here since 10 mins
[12:11] <ioria> me 30
[12:12] <mra90> termi: as mouses said we have disccussed the problem very vell in recet chat history, please just scroll up
[12:12] <mra90> s/vell/well
[12:12] <termi> or less , i'm using ubuntu since is beginning
[12:12] <ioria> might be a module issue - not native - or a autosuspend problem
[12:13] <mouses> ioria: user has 3 of the same devices, 2/3 of them work, confirmed module is loaded, all needed $things are there
[12:13] <mouses> ioria: one of said 3 devices does not work, no output to dmesg
[12:14] <mouses> but user is unable to confirm all 3 devices are running the same firmware revision
[12:14] <ioria> mouses, thanx for the infos
[12:14] <mouses> or that all 3 devices are in factory default settings
[12:14] <JimBuntu> 3rd device does work if used with Windows.
[12:16] <termi> what device is ?
[12:18] <termi> can't help with zero data
[12:18] <Industrial> Hi.
[12:19] <Industrial> Can I get `dpkg -l` in a tree format?
[12:19] <termi> Industrial , for dependancy ?
[12:19] <Industrial> yes
[12:20] <Industrial> Or a ways to list all packages that were not installed as a dependency
[12:20] <sazawal> Hello. I have made some changes in theme files, and I want to restore /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gdm3.css. Please tell me this file is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/gdm3.css.
[12:21] <termi> Industrial , for scripting purpose ?
[12:21] <termi> Industrial  ,  aptitude is  gret for console gui managing package
[12:22] <Industrial> termi: No, just myself. I want to see what is installed on my system. I do a `dpkg -l` and I get a huge fricken list and 99% isn't interesting for my use case.
[12:22] <Industrial> Aptitude lists only "apps". death to apps.
[12:22] <Industrial> and stores
[12:22] <Industrial> OH WAIT we got snap stores now. Marvelous!
[12:22] <termi> ok
[12:23] <Industrial> I want `dpkg -l` minus anything that is a dependency :D
[12:23] <mra90> termi ts external network card
[12:23] <Industrial> which packages did I specifically install after installing ubuntu.
[12:24] <Industrial> Maybe i'll write it some day.
[12:24] <mra90> termi: its Asix AX88179 Gigabit Ethernet
[12:24] <termi> --get-selections, will help ?
[12:25] <mra90> termi: whas it work me?
[12:25] <mra90> sorry I ment was it for me? The --get-selections?
[12:25] <termi> mra90, no it for  Industrial
[12:26] <mra90> ok
[12:26] <termi> it gone
[12:26] <mra90> termi: so have you had a chance to look into my problem?
[12:26] <mra90> Have you read previous conversation?
[12:27] <termi> ok , mra90 donc have previeus conversation
[12:27] <termi> need more info
[12:28] <mra90> termi: as guys said, I have 3 exactly the same external network cards
[12:28] <mra90> https://ibb.co/PFPqyqj
[12:28] <mra90> all OK, working properly on windows
[12:28] <mra90> on ubuntu however only 2/3 work
[12:29] <termi> ok , 2/3 working , but working fine in solo !
[12:29] <mra90> Yes
[12:29] <mra90> I test one at a time
[12:29] <termi> and dmes don't help !
[12:29] <termi> lsusb -t
[12:29] <mra90> the third on is not even recognized
[12:29] <mra90> no info in dmesg
[12:30] <termi> mra90 , please paste bin lsusb -t ,  lsusb -n
[12:30] <mra90> no matter if I plug or uplug that third one there is no dmesg info
[12:30] <mra90> lsubs -n?
[12:30] <mra90> there is no such thing
[12:31] <termi> lsusb -n
[12:31] <mra90> lsusb -n
[12:31] <mra90> yes, invalid option -n
[12:31] <black_13> what port does vnc use
[12:31] <black_13> 5900 or 5901
[12:32] <termi> mra90 lsusb
[12:32] <mra90> lsubs -t just doesn;t list this usb device
[12:32] <mra90> what do you expect if dmesg doesn;t recognize it
[12:32] <auser0> can someone tell me what is wrong with this command find . -type f -exec sudo rm -rf *.jpg {} \;
[12:32] <mra90> I already told you, no recoord for it anywhere
[12:33] <auser0> i wanted to delete only files with .jpg but it deleted everything...
[12:33] <termi> mra90 testing usb port ?
[12:33] <termi> all port work fine with one ?
[12:33] <mra90> yes
[12:34] <termi> mra90 please pastebin full dmesg
[12:35] <JimBuntu> auser0, because you left the {} in
[12:35] <auser0> what did that do JimBuntu ?
[12:35] <JimBuntu> find -type f -iname *.jpg -exec rm {} \;              is what I think you wanted to do
[12:36] <auser0> i don't know what that was for tbh, i thought i used it before
[12:36] <auser0> oh thanks
[12:36] <auser0> -iname or -name ?
[12:36] <JimBuntu> auser0, iname... so it finds .JPG too
[12:37] <JimBuntu> I presume auser0 that you want to get rid of *.jpg without regard to case
[12:37] <auser0> oh thanks
[12:37] <termi> mra90 or pastebin usb-devices output
[12:37] <auser0> ya jpg or JPG
[12:38] <auser0> JimBuntu, what did {} exactly did or meant ?
[12:38] <mra90> temrmi before I do plug/unplug I do dmesg -c to clear it
[12:38] <mra90> so there is nothing to paste as it is empty
[12:39] <termi> mra90 please pastebin usb-devices output
[12:39] <JimBuntu> auser0, {} is a substitution for the discovered filenames that matched the 'find'
[12:39] <mra90> ok, just a second
[12:41] <mra90> termi: https://pastebin.com/sHFArsUN
[12:41] <auser0> ah ty mate
[12:42] <mra90> termi: does it say anything to you?
[12:43] <termi> mra90 , no....
[12:44] <vlt> Hello. Can anyone recommend a minimal video player (like mplayer or mpv) that can play an h264 video file from console on an X server?
[12:45] <mouses> vlt: vlc
[12:46] <mouses> vlt: https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help
[12:48] <vlt> mouses: "After unpacking 131 MB will be used."  I'm looking for something much, much smaller.
[12:49] <mouses> vlt: 131 MB is pretty light for a media player with full codec support
[12:49] <vlt> No UI, no pausing or seeking. Just fullscreen playback.
[12:50] <mouses> vlt: sorry, not sure - mplayer and mpv also have CLI interfaces, perhaps that's a good solution?
[12:51] <vlt> I was just curious and thought there might exist something smaller. Without *full* codec support. Something that plays just a specific video file format would do.
[12:52] <mouses> vlt: you can build VLC from source and only install the support you need
[12:52] <mouses> vlt: but in this case, you're probably going to have to build something from source tailored around your specific needs
[12:53] <vlt> Ok, thank you :)
[12:53] <mouses> vlt: for sure, wish I could have been of more help with a easy solution :(
[12:54] <loyalism> On a similar note, is there any MPC-HC alternatives than can play x265 HEVC for linux?
[12:54] <loyalism> already tried vlc
[12:55] <vlt> omxplayer on the Raspberry Pi seems extremely tiny but that just shoves the video file data to the hardware decoder :D
[12:56] <termi> loyalism Use the ini to store the settings (see Options > Player), this way you will be able to use different settings for MPC-HC x86 and x64.
[12:56] <mouses> loyalism: VLC handles x265 HEVC just fine
[12:57] <mouses> loyalism: literally watching video in it right now as I type
[12:57] <loyalism> mouses: are you on a nightly build?
[12:57] <loyalism> termi: thanks, will try that
[12:57] <mouses> loyalism: nay, you just need - https://www.videolan.org/developers/x265.html
[12:58] <loyalism> mouses: thank you!
[12:58] <mouses> loyalism: check Plugins and extensions -> Modules -> Search for HEVC to confirm you have it, what version are you rocking?
[12:59] <mouses> it's been default there for a while
[13:00] <mouses> loyalism: another ezpz soultion is to install libde265 on the system
[13:00] <mouses> https://github.com/strukturag/libde265
[13:01] <loyalism> mouses: yeah, was running a considerably outdated version, makes sense - seems to be working now, thanks
[13:01] <mouses> loyalism: woot!
[13:02] <mouses> loyalism: I've had epic battles with VLC and getting proper chromecast support, really should write a guide about that someday - it was a rabbit hole of nightmarish joy
[13:03] <loyalism> mouses: yeah, i understand the pain and suffering involved, sometimes i feel like its only me that has issues with VLC but you look online and you arent alone haha
[13:07] <mouses> loyalism: HEVC is such a pain in general, I still avoid it like the plague - hopefully in a few years it'll see more mainstream support
[13:07] <BluesKaj> mouses, any reason why libde265 isn't default, it's in the repos tho.
[13:08] <mouses> BluesKaj: no idea, probably just not a default thing most people need - it works well though
[13:08] <BluesKaj> ok thanks mouses
[13:09] <mouses> BluesKaj: newish video decoding $things are usually pretty slow to see mainstream adoption
[13:09] <loyalism> mouses: I used to have a massive x264 movie collection, but its so hard to beat the quality/file size ratio that HEVC offers, it really is great for saving space
[13:10] <mouses> loyalism: it really is - I just gave up and invested in a bunch of spinning rust :P
[13:11] <mouses> loyalism: and dealing with the 'it usually works so well it's amazing but when it does not it's a nightmare' reality of PLEX media server
[13:12] <loyalism> mouses: haha yeah its definitely a love/hate relationship, tried plex in the past but was having issues transcoding to my old firestick from what i remember
[13:15] <BluesKaj> not impressed with plex, think direct use of VLC or any other player is probly less clunky than one of those media suites that takes over your computer
[13:16] <BluesKaj> that's an opinon of course based on trying plex and others like it
[13:20] <cappicard> good morning. i have sound back on 19.04, but only if i uninstall pulseaudio...
[13:21] <pax_rhos> hello
[13:23] <BluesKaj> cappicard, did you check your pavucontrol settings for volume and output devices
[13:23] <cappicard> gives me no devices
[13:24] <BluesKaj> which audio chip and driver?
[13:24] <pax_rhos> Had a soft RAID with 1 dead disk. Replaced the disk, now doing `gdisk /dev/sda` and getting caution: `after loading partitions, the CRC doesn't check out!` + warning: `Main partition table CRC mismatch! Loaded backup partition table instead of main partition table! One or more CRCs don't match. You should repair the disk!` + `Partition table scan: MBR: protective, GPT: damaged`  + Caution `Found protective or hybrid MBR and corrupt GPT.
[13:24] <pax_rhos> Using GPT, but disk verification and recovery are STRONGLY recommended.` how to do the said recovery?
[13:24] <cappicard> intel hda alc3234 code
[13:25] <cappicard> codec
[13:26] <BluesKaj> cappicard, so your using the alsamixer settings and they work, correct ?
[13:26] <cappicard> yes they do
[13:26] <BluesKaj> what about audio on the web?
[13:27] <cappicard> only if i uninstall pulseaudio
[13:27] <BluesKaj> firefox requires pulseaudio afaik
[13:28] <cappicard> i use chrome.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> and chrome audio works?
[13:28] <cappicard> only if i dont have pulseaudio installed
[13:28] <BluesKaj> that's strange,
[13:29] <BluesKaj> did you purge pulse or just remove it?
[13:30] <cappicard> i purged it
[13:30] <ducasse> BluesKaj: this sounds really odd to me
[13:30] <BluesKaj> nothing wrong with not using pulseaudio if alsa works on everything, no point having an extra layer of processing if you don't need it
[13:30] <cappicard> i even tried copying the pulse config files from the usb stick
[13:32] <BluesKaj> ducasse, yeah, nowadays most syatems require pulse for web audio. alsa will work fine on bare metal, but not in most browsers
[13:34] <ducasse> BluesKaj: that's my impression as well, didn't know any of the major browsers would do audio without pulse
[13:35] <cappicard> chrome works without pulseaudio. even the terminal bell still works
[13:36] <BluesKaj> I didn't ude pulse for along time up until a couple of yrs ago when most browsers began to depend on it, worked well on intel audio chips on my pcs for a while
[13:37] <cappicard> brb
[13:37] <LordDoskias> hello i need assistance with VGA passthrough on ubuntu 18.04. I managed to start a win7 vm with the nvidia card in passthrough mode - can start gpu-z and have installed the nvidia drivers, yet i'm not able to start my game. It says 3d can'tbe initialised
[13:37] <LordDoskias> the default display in windows properties is the generic display that qemu adds, what do i do
[13:38] <Oderus> hi all. is there a command I could use to purge all residual config files with apt or something?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Oderus, autoremve and autoclean should do it
[13:39] <BluesKaj> autoremove
[13:39] <ducasse> Oderus: 'dpkg -l | awk '$1 ~ /rc/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P'
[13:40] <Oderus> BluesKaj:  ducasse: thank you
[13:40] <BluesKaj> nice one ducasse ..
[13:42] <grepwood> hi
[13:43] <grepwood> there's a script in Fedora called `texconfig` that comes from texlive-scheme-full` package or one of its deps. Why is this script NOWHERE to be found in Ubuntu?
[13:44] <grepwood> there's a manpage and it says that texlive-base provides it but that's a lie
[13:44] <grepwood> it's not in that package
[13:44] <grepwood> it was in trusty but I need it in bionic
[13:47] <Oderus> ducasse: do you happen to know where i would place an executable shell script containing that command, in order to execute it from any directly with a simple comman (cleanresidual is the file name)
[13:48] <Oderus> usr/bin?
[13:49] <rdz> hey all. how can i ssh into my kvm guest by hostname instead of ip address?
[13:50] <grepwood> k nvm I got the source code from fedora and I can reuse another command
[13:53] <ducasse> Oderus: ~/bin is where i would put it, i think that is in your PATH by default
[13:53] <krion> hi
[13:53] <ducasse> Oderus: you could also use /usr/local/bin
[13:58] <krion> anybody got a situation with evolution and ews and outdated exchange complaining about failed tls negotiation ?
[14:13] <Oderus> ducasse: thank you
[14:14] <BABA911> hi everyone
[14:14] <sazawal> Hello all. My nautilus is crashing on Ubuntu 19.04 at start up since a few days. How do I troubleshoot the problem? Well, right now it is still not launching.
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: can you try launching it from terminal please
[14:16] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, I tried but it is not giving any output, and yes it doesnt launch.
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: what about a tail -f /var/log/syslog
[14:18] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, "gnome-shell[1592]: error: Failed to launch “Downloads”: Timeout was reached"
[14:21] <yeppet> hi
[14:21] <yeppet> i need help
[14:21] <lordcirth> yeppet, hi
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: try purge nautilus, then reinstall and/or test nautilus from another user
[14:22] <yeppet> lordcirth can we private massage
[14:23] <lordcirth> !pm | yeppet
[14:23] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, Only have one user, so I try purging and reinstalling
[14:24] <yeppet> can we hack the facebook account
[14:24] <yeppet> with termux
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> yeppet: not welcome on freenode with hacking topics
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> !alis > yeppet
[14:25] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, Well, I just tried to launch the nautilus and it worked. I guess I cannot check if it worked after the reinstallation. Anyway, I will find out in the future if it worked or not.
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: a glitch somewhere perhaps
[14:25] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, I meant I still have to do the reinstallation.
[14:26] <yeppet> ubottu how to see private message i'm new
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> yeppet: take your mouse cursor to the private message tab and click it
[14:27] <yeppet> i'm use termux
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> yeppet: ask in the #termux channel
[14:31] <loyalism> has anyone ever had an issue with full screen steam games appearing on the wrong monitor? Bit of a strange one, but every full screen game seems to appear on the wrong monitor (monitor 2) - even though my main monitor is set as default.
[14:32] <loyalism> normally super key allows me to manually drag the window over to the other screen but sometimes that doesnt even seem to work
[14:35] <lordcirth> loyalism, yes. Generally I switch it to windowed, drag it over, then fullscreen again. Most games remember after that.
[14:36] <st127> Is that OK?
[14:36] <st127> Oh,I see
[14:36] <st127> Where are you from?
[14:37] <st127> @lordcirth
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> st127: only ubuntu questions here please
[14:37] <lordcirth> !chat | st127
[14:43] <goddard> why is bind installed on my system?
[14:43] <goddard> isn't that for servers?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> goddard: are you talking about bind9-host in your updates today?
[14:45] <goddard> lotuspsychje: yes exactly
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> !info bind9-host | goddard
[14:46] <compdoc> goddard, its not for servers, but it doesnt get installed by itself.
[14:46] <goddard> compdoc: ok thanks
[14:46] <goddard> is there a way to figure out what piece of software was installed that requires it?
[14:46] <goddard> im just curious
[14:47] <ioria> goddard, it's installed by default
[14:47] <goddard> oh ok
[14:59] <zwik> Hi all, i've a problem with grub. During the upgrade to 19.04 the installation tries to remove linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic but I'm getting an error from grub saying "/etc/grub.d/bin/grubcfg_proxy: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". What should I do?
[15:02] <zwik> I tried find out of libssl install, and it is
[15:02] <zwik> I tried finding out if libssl is installed, and it is installed*
[15:03] <zwik> reinstalling grub-pc also doesn't seem to resolve the issue
[15:04] <willksm> zwik, maybe try and install libssl-dev?
[15:05] <zwik> willksm: just tried, doesn't seem to work unfortunately ;(
[15:05] <willksm> zwik, apt-get install libssl1.0.0 ?
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> Why the focus on libssl, when libcrypto is the problem?
[15:06] <zwik> libssl provides libcrypto afaik?
[15:07] <zwik> willksm: that says this: Package libssl1.0.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'libssl1.0.0' has no installation candidate"
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Libcrypto_API - The libcrypto library provides the fundamental cryptographic routines used by libssl.
[15:08] <willksm> That was my understanding too zwik ^. I presume that your libcrypto.so.1.0.0 file exists, just isn't in the expected location. Maybe try and locate where and sym link it to /usr/lib/* maybe?
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> zwik: libssl depends on libcrypto ... so I'd focus effort on figuring out libcrypto
[15:08] <zwik> okay
[15:09] <zwik> is libcrypto++6 the libcrypto package?
[15:10] <ioria> zwik, libssl1.0.0 it's not available on disco
[15:10] <neildugan> hi .. because of limitiations of my internet modem ... can I setup a VM so that when a connection is made to a port, it forwards the connection to a different  VMs dependant on the port that was connected to?
[15:10] <zwik> I can link libcrypto1.0.0 from some snap, but that feels wrong?
[15:11] <zwik> I'm wondering where the file comes from, which package
[15:11] <ioria> zwik, i told you
[15:11] <zwik> libssl?
[15:11] <ioria> libssl1.0.0
[15:11] <hggdh> pragmaticenigma, zwik: libssl1.0.0 is not provided by Disco. It has been superceeded by libssl1.1.1
[15:11] <gofio> is it usual in ubuntu 18.04 to find such discrepancies in free disk space between df -h command, gparted, and disk capacity tool? ("analizador de uso de disco" I'm using a system in spanish) in /dev/sda5 it says with df -h command there is 1,7G free, while in gparted it says 3.69G for same device, and at the disk utility it says 4G free. Just want to know if that is usual. Thanks
[15:11] <ioria> !info libssl1.0.0  disco
[15:12] <lordcirth> neildugan, using Virtualbox? Yes, you can set up port forwarding.
[15:12] <donofrio_> Bashing-om, it looks like this "ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority | pastebinit = http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/98bFfGHy86/"
[15:13] <lordcirth> gofio, yes, that is normal.
[15:13] <gofio> k, thanks lordcirth
[15:13] <gofio> which one you thing lordcirth it uses to be the closest to reality?
[15:13] <gofio> thing=think
[15:14] <zwik> libssl1.1.0 is install but doesn't seem to provide a libcrypto1.1.0
[15:14] <lordcirth> gofio, probably df
[15:14] <zwik> I'm a bit lost what the actual solution is
[15:14] <gofio> so the lowest lordcirth, cool, thanks
[15:14] <gofio> better to think is the lowest than the highest to be real indeed
[15:14] <gofio> thanks
[15:15] <neildugan> lordcirth, ok
[15:17] <zwik> I can't install libssl actually because apt blocks things because it tries to remove the thing which doesn't work because i miss libcrypto
[15:18] <ioria> zwik, it's   libssl1.1 not  libssl1.1.0   and lybcrypto is hthere https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/amd64/libssl1.1/filelist
[15:18] <Jimmy7> Hi
[15:18] <zwik> Yes, but how can i install it without trying to remove other pacakges?
[15:18] <ioria> zwik, with a differenet version ofc
[15:19] <zwik> apt tries to remove linux somehwat when in try to install libssl1.1.0
[15:19] <zwik> that doesn't work for me
[15:19] <ioria> zwik,  paste the output of   apt -s install libssl1.1   (but i think it's an old bug)
[15:20] <zwik> $ apt -s install libssl1.1 NOTE: This is only a simulation!       apt needs root privileges for real execution.       Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,       so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation! Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libssl1.1 is already the newest version (1.1.1b-1ubuntu2). The following packages will be REMOVED:   linux-i
[15:20] <ioria> zwik, use pastebinit ot whatever please
[15:20] <zwik> sorry
[15:20] <ioria> zwik, don't paste here
[15:21] <zwik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2ZSjcBd5ZG/
[15:22] <ioria> zwik, if you are on disco you have .5 kernel... what's the issue removing an old one ?
[15:22] <ioria> zwik,  and you probably have a broken pkg
[15:23] <zwik> Well, if try to do updates I get the following: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fvDN8n2z8t/
[15:24] <hggdh> zwik: or a broken upgrade to 19.04. Your grub seems to have NOT been upgraded to the 19.04 one
[15:24] <ioria> zwik, if you are on disco you have .5 kernel... what's the issue removing an old one ?that is the broken pkg
[15:25] <zwik> I'm on the 5 kernel, if i reinstall grub-pc it doesn't seem to resolve the issue either.
[15:25] <hggdh> zwik: ah, the error is on tryingto remove the 4.8 kernel
[15:25] <zwik> yes
[15:25] <ioria> zwik,  dpkg -l  linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic
[15:26] <ioria> zwik,  and i don't think this file is stock : /etc/grub.d/bin/grubcfg_proxy
[15:27] <zwik> that gives me this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fR2cTwVmjM/
[15:27] <ioria> zwik,  uname -r
[15:27] <zwik> 5.0.0-13-generic
[15:27] <ioria> zwik,  do you have at least another kernel (a part linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic) ?
[15:28] <zwik> -17 is there, no other
[15:28] <zwik> and 5
[15:29] <zwik> can re reconfigure the grub package to go back to defaults?
[15:29] <ioria> zwik,  try first with   sudo apt purge linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic      ( but it wiil fail)
[15:29] <zwik> that fails indeed
[15:29] <ioria> zwik,  sudo dpkg -P  linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic
[15:29] <zwik> that also fails
[15:30] <ioria> zwik,  paste the errors
[15:30] <zwik> here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKfzP8bCZy/
[15:31] <zwik> you say grubcfg_proxy doesn't seem standard, can i reconfigure the package to standard?
[15:32] <ioria> zwik,  before that, i'd like to know what /etc/grub.d/bin/grubcfg_proxy  is
[15:32] <zwik> it's elf binary
[15:32] <gofio> is there a way to find ubuntu language libraries online? not to download but just to check which word is used for the same task in the different language. Say I want to check if "backup" corresponds to "restaurar" in spanish, for example. Made a little search in google and didn't find much that matches what I'm looking for. Anybody? If not no need to answer thanks
[15:33] <zwik> I once had grub-customizer installed, maybe that introduced it
[15:34] <ioria> zwik,  probably , paste    ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep 4.18.0-16
[15:34] <zwik> here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YWfgwPMRwy/
[15:35] <ioria> zwik,  sudo mv  /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.18.0-16*  /tmp
[15:36] <zwik> done
[15:36] <ioria> zwik,  sudo apt purge linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic
[15:36] <zwik> That seems to resolve the issue
[15:37] <ioria> ok
[15:37] <zwik> but the purge doesn't seemt to work
[15:38] <ioria> zwik,  paste it
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> gofio: You could explorer here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+language-packs
[15:38] <zwik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/whhTDRzJCh/
[15:38] <ioria> zwik,  dpkg -l  linux-image-4.18.0-16-generic
[15:39] <zwik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pHkGPdyQBJ/
[15:39] <zwik> also not
[15:39] <ioria> zwik, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:40] <zwik> That gives me this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BMw3HSKStk/
[15:40] <ioria> zwik, looks ok
[15:40] <zwik> I'm good again I guess :)
[15:40] <zwik> Thanks so much for your help ioria !
[15:41] <ioria> zwik, no problem, but (my pers opin) don't use that grub-cust
[15:41] <Boyette> hi
[15:41] <zwik> It's been long gone already, but gives me problems now
[15:41] <Jimmy7> Hello
[15:41] <zwik> Thanks again!
[15:41] <ioria> ok
[15:42] <Jimmy7> I have a big issue with apt-get, can someone help me please ?
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> Jimmy7: You're welcome to ask your questions without asking to ask. Please state the issue with as much detail as you can. If you need to post terminal output, please paste a link to a pastebin posting here.
[15:46] <basalt> hi, after upgrade to 19.04 i cannot see any desktop icons, do you have a hint
[15:47] <tomreyn> basalt: sudo apt update && sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[15:48] <Jimmy7> @pragmaticenigma, ok thank you
[15:49] <gofio> and try to open it as text pragmaticenigma isn't it and see if it is set as correlation or something like that? I'm looking here in this freenode server for an ubuntu channel in spanish but haven't seen it yet. Thanks pragmaticenigma! I need to know which word in each language corresponds to each other cuz I'm gonna be using both systems in spanish and english and is a pain to try to translate correctly when that has already been done a long time ago
[15:49] <basalt> @tomreyn: restart afterwards?
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> !es | gofio
[15:49] <Jimmy7> So, my issue is, apt-get install has a problem. It always shows an error with dependencies. Something like "X depends of Y but it will not be installed.......You may have held broken packages"
[15:50] <pragmaticenigma> gofio: For a spanish Ubuntu channel see #ubuntu-es
[15:50] <Jimmy7> sudo apt-get -f install / -f install package_name / update / upgrade does not change anything
[15:50] <gofio> great pragmaticenigma already in the -es channel, I remembered I saw one even though not many people and like nobody like in 24 hours, but did not find it this time. again, thanks!
[15:51] <gofio> 18 nicks not bad pragmaticenigma, let see if there any vida in there;-p thanks!
[15:53] <gofio> gee 344mb of a download that language package pragmaticenigma #ouch
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> gofio: Please remember, this channel is for support only. For other topics and commentary, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. Thanks
[15:55] <basalt> tomreyn: icons are now here, but all the .desktop shortcuts are not working
[15:56] <tomreyn> basalt: if i recall correctly, that's a bug really.
[15:57] <tomreyn> basalt: are there spaces in their names?
[15:59] <tomreyn> those are the existing bug reports about gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons, the packaged gnome extension which provides the functionality of having  / showing / interacting with desktop icons / folders on 19.04 and later: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bugs
[15:59] <tomreyn> basalt: ^ this functionality was removed from gnome core, so it was readded as an extension.
[16:00] <basalt> tomreyn: no, if i klick it, it will be opened with text editor, also libreoffice xlsx will not be opened
[16:01] <basalt> tomreyn: so i need a extension? do you have a url for me
[16:02] <ioria> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1465/desktop-icons/
[16:03] <ioria> basalt, ^
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: share a pastebin with your error output as adviced above to get better help
[16:04] <Jimmy7> I use a french version of Xubuntu so I do not think you will understand. It something like: "X depends of Y but it will not be installed [...]  You may have held broken packages"
[16:05] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: use a pastebin please
[16:05] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, you understand french ?
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> yes
[16:06] <tomreyn> ioria: this extension should already have been installed by the apt package gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons, which ubuntu-desktop on 19.04 depends on (i think, maybe indirectly)
[16:06] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SXy9v4FZXk/
[16:06] <ioria> tomreyn, ho, yes it should
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: your ubuntu version please?
[16:08] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, Xubuntu 18.04
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc-plugin-video-output bionic
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: did you add external ppa's to your system please?
[16:09] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, No but like a moron I added kali linux repositories in the /etc/apt/sources.list. I deleted them but the issue is still here
[16:10] <basalt> hi, looks like its working now with the desktop icons, the right click "allow launch" was missing, not all works, but not the libre office  xlsx
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: best to use !ppapurge to cleanout external ppa's and its packages
[16:10] <tomreyn> basalt: what doesn't work now?
[16:11] <basalt> tomreyn: a xlsx file located on the desktop directly, no link
[16:11] <tomreyn> basalt: what does not work about it?
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: can you pastebin the whole output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[16:16] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ftr9kgqh4H/
[16:16] <basalt> tomreyn: if i double click, nothing happens, right click + open -> nothing happened, right click open with other application -> select libreoffice -> working
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: that looks good, what command did you enter for previous pastebin?
[16:18] <tomreyn> basalt: is there a blank space in its name?
[16:18] <neildugan> lordcirth, hi again... I got the port forwarding to work :)
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> tnx for feedback neildugan
[16:19] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:19] <neildugan> lotuspsychje, I am using lxc VMs
[16:20] <basalt> tomreyn: no but a "ö"
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: did you try sudo apt autoremove yet?
[16:20] <basalt> tomreyn: and if i remove the "ö" i got a "command not found"
[16:21] <tomreyn> basalt: please report a bug using: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons
[16:21] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, No I was afraid because sudo apt-get update/upgrade/autoremove sometimes try to remove important packages
[16:22] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I tried, it prints the same thing that sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: how about sudo apt purge vlc-plugin-video-output
[16:25] <basalt> tomreyn: thx i will try, no account so far
[16:26] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6FrB2s76M/
[16:26] <tomreyn> basalt: if there are problems with getting the account created, ask in #ubuntu-sso (about the authentication part) and #launchpad (about launchpad specific issues)
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: ok, thats somethign weird indeed
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: how does your sources.list look like?
[16:27] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I tried right now to install htop and neofetch and it worked well
[16:27] <Jimmy7> I ask myself if it is not vlc which has a problem, lotuspsychje
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: its just complains on vlc?
[16:28] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, it did it with cups and hplip too, but aptitude fixed it
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: did you perhaps install another version of vlc on your system, or installed manually?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: think you still need to clean your sources.list with !ppapurge
[16:30] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, no but vlc seems to need an old version of libva2
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[16:32] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XjFGwGFQF9/
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: also looks good
[16:34] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I think it's vlc which has a problem
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: purge vlc?
[16:35] <Jimmy7> Tell me the name of some random packets so I try to install them
[16:35] <Jimmy7> To see if the issue appears again
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: check if vlc is installed already first
[16:35] <Jimmy7> No it is not
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: can you recall how you installed vlc exactly before?
[16:37] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I never installed it
[16:37] <Jimmy7> It is the first time
[16:37] <bqyh_> hello world
[16:38] <Aeden> hello
[16:38] <Aeden> I have a problem with my bluethoot headphone
[16:38] <`whoami`> hello, what's the default DE in ubuntu 18.04 ? i can't manage to find that info
[16:38] <`whoami`> is it "unity" ?
[16:39] <Aeden> Lubuntu correctly detect it, but I don't see it with pulseaudio
[16:39] <Eickmeyer> `whoami`: The default DE in Ubuntu 18.04 is GNOME Shell.
[16:39] <Tin_man> whoami, Gnome
[16:39] <`whoami`> ok tyvm
[16:40] <Jimmy7> `whoami`, gnome
[16:40] <jpseara> Is somebody here experience IRCcloud connectivity issues, namely to the Canonical IRC network and Quakenet?
[16:40] <Jimmy7> Aeden, Can you use it ?
[16:41] <jpseara> s/experience/experiencing
[16:41] <Aeden> Jimmy7, I don't see it in pulseaudio
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: maybe you got vlc leftovers in your system
[16:42] <gofio> so far it seems there is no solution to what I'm looking for pragmaticenigma and should end up doing myself some kind of two column excel sheet or something like that. That would def solve the issue
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: dpkg -l | grep vlc
[16:42] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I think so, I am trying to install some video/image readers and it works perfectly
[16:45] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, nothing
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: ok lets try bleachbit and cleanout your whole system
[16:47] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, a lot of programs install perfectly
[16:47] <Jimmy7> It's vlc which has a problem
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: i know, apt complains about vlc-plugin-video-output, probably conflict with an external ppa you had before
[16:48] <Jimmy7> I think too
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: did you try a reboot yet after you cleaned out the ppa's?
[16:48] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, Yes
[16:49] <Jimmy7> clear
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: ok if bleachbit cant help, im out of ideas
[16:49] <Jimmy7> How to use it properly ?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: just run bleachbit as root icon, enable all and scan
[16:50] <Aeden> So I can't use my bluetooth headphone Lubuntu
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> Aeden: did you install blueman?
[16:51] <Aeden> It is already install
[16:51] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, Ok thank you very much man, you helped me a lot
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: lets hope it works
[16:52] <Aeden> The device is in the list, but it's impossible to see find/see it in pulseaudio
[16:52] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, it deleted 63 files in apt
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> Aeden: you could try pavucontrol perhaps
[16:53] <Aeden> It's the same thing
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: try a sudo apt update again after, and try again vlc
[16:55] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, still not working
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:55] <Aeden> So, sadlyj, I will have to re-install windows to make my bluetooth heaphone work
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Jimmy7: wich graphics driver do you have installed?
[16:56] <Aeden> I thought that ubuntu will have improved with the time, but device connection are still a problem
[16:56] <Jimmy7> @lotuspsychje, I come back tonight
[16:57] <Jimmy7> I have to go
[16:57] <Jimmy7> Thank you very much for everything
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:59] <gebbione> anytime i go to network and try to open a share i get a password prompt. It does not matter that i asked the user and password to be saved for it, it still prompts for a user and password :/
[17:01] <gofio> 1.9G the "rosseta-bionic" file from the link you gave me pragmaticenigma but don't have the space to extract that right now so will leave it for later. Thanks! good name for that kind of file btw, will try to find those "ubuntu translators"
[17:01] <tomreyn> gebbione: what's your ubuntu version?
[17:01] <Sven_vB> so I learned that a defunct process with parent pid 1 means it's stuck in a syscall. sudo lsof -p $zombie_pid can't find anything. what other kind of syscall could block it, and how to tell?
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> gofio: dont discuss here please, only ubuntu support questions
[17:02] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: use strace
[17:05] <Sven_vB> looks like root is not enough. sudo strace -fyxp $zpid¶ strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted¶ Could not attach to process.  […] or try again as the root user. […]"
[17:07]  * Sven_vB investigates /proc/$zpid… at least …/fdinfo is empty
[17:08] <Sven_vB> the cwd, exe and root symlink are unreadable for ls
[17:09] <Sven_vB> there's a file syscat, it says "252 0xf 0x0 0x0 0xf 0xb771a258 0xb771a258 0xbf93196c 0xb77bbcb0". I'll try to find what 252 is
[17:10] <Sven_vB> seems to be exit_group(2) so I should probably search for left-over threads
[17:12] <Sven_vB> oh dear, lots of defunct avahis also. I'll see if restarting network might help, brb.
[17:12] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: i think there's no need to report your findings here. feel free to ask when you have a support question.
[17:12] <gebbione> tomreyn, 16.04
[17:14] <tomreyn> gebbione: and this is real ubuntu, not some fork or derivative?
[17:17] <interrobangd> Hello,.. anyone use fsarchiver?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> ask your ubuntu question interrobangd
[17:19] <interrobangd> how to convert from ext4 to btrfs?
[17:20] <interrobangd> id did a backup but cant restore
[17:20] <interrobangd> fsarchiver restfs /mnt/paul/ubuntu.fsa id=0,dest=/dev/sda2,mkfs=btrfs
[17:20] <interrobangd> fs_btrfs.c#106,btrfs_mkfs(): command [mkfs.btrfs -f /dev/sda2    -U 'ac4c432c-ad75-4d3c-bfa6-e67850e8efb9' ] failed oper_restore.c#1295,extractar_filesystem_extract(): cannot make filesystem btrfs on partition /dev/sda2
[17:22] <interrobangd> should be possible.... "For instance, it allows to restore a filesystem which was ext2 when it was saved as reiserfs on the new partition."
[17:25] <tomreyn> interrobangd: run the command provided in the error message manually and see what's the error that is returned.
[17:26] <tomreyn> interrobangd: fsarchiver only reports that a subprocess failed and returned with a non zero exit code
[17:46] <lordcirth> neildugan, good. But I thought you said you were using Virtualbox?
[18:09] <cek> how do i make readline work under user in bash in ubuntu docker image
[18:09] <cek> `$ ^[[A^[[1;5A^[[1;5D ` isn't an option
[18:10] <analogical> how do I type if I want to perform more than one apt command at the same time?
[18:11] <cek> alright, `chsh -s /bin/bash user` problem solved
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> analogical: use && in between
[18:11] <cek> what a blunder
[18:15] <goddard> i think something to do with my sound is crashing
[18:16] <goddard> or being reset
[18:17] <goddard> because it will randomly cut out while listening to videos in chromium and I will open my settings/sound panel and it wont display anything in the "output" section and then eventually if I wait like 10 seconds things will appear in this drop down section again, but it will be other things I didn't set and I will have to change the device again
[18:26] <Drajwer> hi! I've installed 2ndry gpu to drive 3 displays and I'm using nvidia drivers. Unfortunately the monitor on 2nd gpu is not visible on ubuntu settings app, and also nvidia config tool doesn't properly initialize it - I can only see black screen and the mouse cursor is "X". What should I do?
[18:34] <pinnerup> I have a dual-boot setup with Windows on /dev/sda4 and Ubuntu on /dev/sda5 (GUID partition table), and I'm in need of extra space on the Windows partition. Is it possible to shrink Ubuntu a tad, move it to the right and grow the Windows partition? Will GRUB be able to boot Ubuntu afterwards?
[18:37] <lordcirth> pinnerup, grub refers to the Ubuntu partition by the filesystem's UUID, so that should work.
[18:37] <lordcirth> But always have backups before moving partitions
[18:37] <jcotton> GParted can do the shrink and move in one go
[18:39] <pinnerup> So ideally I can just boot a Ubuntu live USB, used gparted to shrink-move /dev/sda5 and then it'll boot fine afterwards, even if the partition now starts in another place?
[18:39] <jcotton> ye
[18:39] <jcotton> but, again, backups
[18:39] <jcotton> of Windows and Ubuntu
[18:40] <pinnerup> I know, I know. This is a very recent install (done a couple of days ago), so everything is already backed up.
[18:40] <jcotton> +1
[18:40] <pinnerup> Where's grub located at?
[18:40] <jcotton> on the efi system partition
[18:40] <jcotton> assuming you're uefi
[18:40] <pinnerup> Oh, great.
[18:41] <pinnerup> I'm not really down with this EFI thing. It seems new and strange to me, but that sounds like an advantage :)
[18:41] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:41] <jcotton> hardly new
[18:41] <OerHeks> !grub
[18:42] <pinnerup> jcotton: I know, I'm a slow adapter :)
[18:42] <pinnerup> Thanks for the advice :)
[18:46] <Exterminador> installing Ubuntu 19.04. is support preferred here or somewhere else?
[18:47] <hggdh> zwik: Exterminador here, as long as it deals with Ubuntu. For Eoan (future 19.10 release), go to #ubuntu+1
[18:47] <hggdh> zwik: sorry for tagging you
[18:48] <Exterminador> hggdh: ok. I was thinking about that the +1 but that's just for beta/unstable releases right?
[18:49] <Exterminador> for all the things people been saying in the net, Disco Dingo seems to be a big enhancement related to previous versions
[18:49] <hggdh> Exterminador: it is only for the next Ubuntu release (this is why the channel is named #ubuntu+1 -- next from current release)
[18:52] <emsjessec> do linux boot cds work on HP UEFI computers?
[18:53] <lordcirth> emsjessec, what is special about HP's UEFI?
[18:53] <emsjessec> i tried booting a Knoppix disc to use Runtime DriveImageXML
[18:53] <emsjessec> all I got was a non-blicking cursor in the upper left corner
[18:54] <jcotton> is Knoppix Secure Boot signed?
[18:54] <OerHeks> Ubuntu + UEFI should work fine, see the uefi manual
[18:55] <ubudog> guys how can I talk in thinkpad group?
[18:56] <OerHeks> ubudog, explain, thinkpad group?
[18:56] <lordcirth> !alis | ubudog
[18:57] <ubudog> I join a group but gettin error
[18:57] <OerHeks> if it is a channel here on #freenode, you might need to register
[18:57] <OerHeks> !register
[18:57] <leftyfb> !knoppix | jcotton
[18:57] <ubudog> ubottu  ##ibmthinkpad :Cannot send to nick/channel
[18:58] <ubudog> really? llol shoot
[18:58] <herrcrazi> Hi !
[18:58] <OerHeks> answered, see ubottu
[18:59] <leftyfb> ubudog: /join #freenode for help with IRC. This is an Ubuntu support channel.
[18:59] <ubudog> Hi
[19:13] <Exterminador> so, for now seems that my old old laptop with a AMD E-300 is supported by latest Ubuntu (at least it's installing)
[19:35] <esr> Since I upgraded ro 19.04 a few days a go my speakers have been emitting loud popping sounds at unpredictable intervals.  Is this a problem anyone else is seeing?
[19:36] <ioria> esr, nope, to be honest
[19:51] <esr> ioria: It is a mystery.  Annoying nbecause it breaks my concentration on things.
[19:52] <ioria> esr, i suggest to boot a livecd and test
[19:52] <esr> I think it's correlated with something my browser is doing, but haven't pimnned it down yet.
[19:53] <esr> ioria: Good idea.  Guess I'll also try a different browser.
[19:56] <asdffg> 
[20:00] <basalt_> is it possible to hide the left top menu on selected application? i do not see any benefit for this
[20:01] <gebbione> tomreyn, 16.04 lts yes
[20:12] <jannek> hy
[20:19] <lordcirth__> jannek, hello
[20:26] <holoirc> Hey, does anyone know how to get gParted to boot up after disabling secure boot? My disc like quits spinning, using gParted live.
[20:28] <leftyfb> holoirc: we only support ubuntu here
[20:29] <holoirc> I'm just asking cause I am trying to extend the space of Ubuntu.
[20:29] <lordcirth__> holoirc, you could boot an Ubuntu live usb instead?
[20:30] <holoirc> Would that help in extending my space?
[20:31] <goddard> can you import .ovpn file ?
[20:31] <goddard> for the vpn settings
[20:31] <goddard> because it isn't working for me
[20:32] <lordcirth__> holoirc, yes, all you need is a working Linux system that doesn't mount the partition you want to move.
[20:33] <holoirc> Okay, I'll see if this works, I stuck an USB with an Ubuntu installation in.
[20:33] <leftyfb> holoirc: boot an ubuntu live cd/usb. It's got gparted built in to do exactly what you need to do
[20:33] <holoirc> Okay.
[20:34] <holoirc> Alright, I see it.
[20:36] <holoirc> It doesn't have my ext4 locked down.
[20:36] <holoirc> That helps.
[20:38] <holoirc> Thanks.
[20:45] <arti_> elo
[20:45] <arti_> zyje ktos tu?
[20:46] <tomreyn> !pl | arti_
[21:08] <Exterminador> how do we actually create a launcher in Ubuntu 19.04? I'm used to Xubuntu tho
[21:09] <lordcirth__> Exterminador, what do you mean by a launcher?
[21:09] <Exterminador> a desktop shortcut to launch an app
[21:09] <lordcirth__> Exterminador, oh. Well, you need to write a .desktop file, in any DE
[21:11] <A_D> on 18.04 I seem to have a memory leak in X11, its now sitting on 1.7G and nearly 50% of one of my CPU cores
[21:11] <Exterminador> hum.. xfce makes it easier. just right click in the mouse and chose create launcher
[21:11] <Exterminador> time to RTFM about .desktop files
[21:11] <OerHeks> A_D, probably your browser
[21:11] <A_D> Orphis: any fix other than restarting the session?
[21:12] <OerHeks> restart your browser, perhaps?
[21:12] <A_D> does not fix X11 memory issues
[21:12] <OerHeks> and top, or htop can show what processes are responsible
[21:15] <woenx> Hi. I have a program that, during startup, has a bit of network usage for a few minutes. The thing is, during that time, it is not responsive and often throws "Force close" messages every few seconds. It is accessing a network share mounted via sshfs. The thing is, I don't know if it's the program's fault or ubuntu's. Other software is using the sshfs share at the same time and wworks just fine (rhythmbox, for isntance).
[21:17] <A_D> OerHeks: thanks for the help, it was steam
[21:17] <OerHeks> A_D, still a game running?
[21:18] <pinnerup> lordcirth__ & jcotton: It worked. Thank you :)
[21:18] <A_D> OerHeks: just had finished playing a game with Proton about an hour before, but I noticed the increased memory usage yesterday
[21:24] <A_D> OerHeks: appears to be a known issue https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5279
[21:52] <gofio> lol
[21:58] <Jimmy7> Guys
[21:58] <Jimmy7> Does anyone use Lubuntu with Lxqt ?
[21:58] <Jimmy7> The lastest versions
[21:58] <Jimmy7> Is it good ?
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Jimmy7: This channel focuses its attention on Ubuntu support questions. For recommendations, polls, and general chat, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic room. You can join by using /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:01] <mamonetti> hi
[22:02] <David77> Sorry for my pour english. Good evening everyone! Do I need a minimum of free GiBs to switch from 14.04 to 16.04? thank you
[22:02] <mamonetti> which is the preferred way to autostart respawnable services nowadays? according to what i've read, it looks like systemd is the preferred option
[22:04] <pragmaticenigma> mamonetti: Ubuntu currently provides systemd as a services management platform.
[22:04] <tomreyn> David77: i don't actually know, and it depends on your installation, but the upgrader should warn you if indufficient space is available.
[22:05] <mamonetti> pragmaticenigma: ok, i'll take a look to the documentation, thx
[22:05] <tomreyn> David77: personally, i would try to ensure that ~3 GB are available (but this may nor actually be necessary).
[22:07] <pragmaticenigma> David77: I would personally shoot for 10 GBs of free space minimally. I would also highly recommend you back up your system before upgrading.
[22:09] <testuser_____> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu but have been with linux for more than a decade: I upgraded ubuntu and it hosed my system - I think it is confused that my hard drive was encrypted. Does anyone know how to mount an encrypted drive from the liveCD? (the instructions here don't work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/653408/mounting-encrypted-luks-partition-from-live-cd)
[22:10] <David77> tomreyn: thanks. I have 3.7G free from df -h, all update done: it's ok?
[22:11] <David77> pragmaticenigma: yes i want to backup my home before, thanks
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> David77: The more space free you have, the less likely you will encounter an issue. There is no documentation for minimum drive space needed for an upgrade. A standard installation of Ubuntu requires a minimum of 25 GB.
[22:14] <pragmaticenigma> David77: apt, which is used for downloading an installing the updated packages, downloads the software packages first, before it installs them. The more applications you have on your system, the more space that will be needed to perform the update.
[22:14] <pragmaticenigma> David77: The installer "should" warn you if there isn't enough space on the drive before it performs any upgrade action.
[22:19] <dtx> I'm running discord from the snap store but it filling up my systemd log with some permission "apparmor=denied" lines
[22:19] <dtx> it uses like 100MB+ per day
[22:19] <dtx> do i uninstall discord?
[22:19] <dtx> ubuntu 1804
[22:19] <tomreyn> testuser_____: please discuss and show logs, output, screen shots: what tells you that your upgrade failed, and that [ubuntu] is confused that my hard drive was encrypted"? the link you posted suggests you may have dmcrypt-luks encrypted block device layers, is this correct? what about the askubuntu.com instructions you tried did not work as expected, how do you know?
[22:20] <tomreyn> testuser_____: also discuss which version you upgraded from and to.
[22:21] <testuser_____> tomreyn, thanks, sorry I'm on another machine right now as the one running the liveCD isn't working too great network-wise (drivers not yet installed?)
[22:21] <pragmaticenigma> dtx: "snap remove {snap_application_name}"
[22:22] <testuser_____> tomreyn, when I try to run "cryptsetup" the expected device does not show in /dev/mapper
[22:22] <tomreyn> testuser_____: that's fine, just come back with those details when you feel like you're ready. i may not be around but likely soneone else will be
[22:24] <testuser_____> tomreyn, what more details do you need?
[22:25] <testuser_____> tomreyn, I upgraded from 18 to 19
[22:26] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | testuser_____:
[22:26] <tomreyn> testuser_____: i listed above which details are needed.
[22:27] <tomreyn> i not yet seen any output, error messages or the like.
[22:27] <testuser_____> sorry, more specifically 18.04.2 to 19.04
[22:27] <David77> pragmaticenigma: from file manager all 36,4GB (4GB free no home separed) du -hs ~ -> 17G
[22:28] <tomreyn> testuser_____: how did you upgrade?
[22:28]  * testuser_____ does not know what logs you would want and can't paste from the other machine
[22:29] <testuser_____> sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[22:29] <tomreyn> testuser_____: so you did two upgrades then?
[22:30] <testuser_____> I suppose so
[22:30] <tomreyn> testuser_____: i suppose that's worth mentioning
[22:30] <testuser_____> sorry :/
[22:31] <tomreyn> testuser_____: no problem, i'm just trying to understand whether we can work together on this.
[22:31] <tomreyn> testuser_____: so what seems not to work about networking on the system in question, from the live cd?
[22:31] <testuser_____> tomreyn, any recommendations appreciated
[22:32] <pragmaticenigma> David77: Again, the upgrade tool *should* warn you if there isn't enough room on the drive. If there is any software packages you are not currently using, it would be advisable to remove those now, so you don't have to wait for them to download during the upgrade.
[22:32] <testuser_____> tomreyn, the dns resolution seems to be flaky, thus very slow in responding to requests; I edited /etc/resolve.conf to use 1.1.1.1 but appearantly I'm doing something wrong
[22:34] <tomreyn> testuser_____: have you tried setting your preferred resolvers via the network manager GUI?
[22:34] <testuser_____> tomreyn, let me try, didn't think of gui, hehe
[22:37] <testuser_____> tomreyn, still slow, connected to wired network even though there is technically wireless available (not tried it as I don't know if the wireless driver works)
[22:37] <David77> pragmaticenigma: ok thanks :) bye
[22:37] <OerHeks> without dns, termbin works on IP too::  ls | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[22:38] <tomreyn> testuser_____: see what OerHeks said. this can be used to share output with us.
[22:38] <tomreyn> testuser_____: so what happens when you boot the system normally?
[22:38] <testuser_____> tomreyn, funny enough the wireless works better than wired
[22:39] <tomreyn> good.
[22:40] <testuser_____> tomreyn, trying to get hexchat installed on the computer in question so we can talk
[22:40] <tomreyn> testuser_____: can you answer my questions, too?
[22:41] <testuser_____> tomreyn, sorry, which questions specifically?
 testuser_____: so what happens when you boot the system normally?
[22:42] <tomreyn> "please discuss and show logs, output, screen shots: what tells you that your upgrade failed, and that [ubuntu] is confused that my hard drive was encrypted"? the link you posted suggests you may have dmcrypt-luks encrypted block device layers, is this correct? what about the askubuntu.com instructions you tried did not work as expected, how do you know?"
[22:43] <OerHeks> this part should work, no?
[22:43] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/a/653460
[22:44] <tomreyn> Read error: Connection reset by peer
[22:46] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, this is me on the machine in question. The computer is just blank on reboot. I assume it is grub that is the bootloader. Then it complains that it cannot find the appropriate filesystem - I assume because it doesn't know how to read the encrypted drive
[22:48] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, yes, I'm almost certain that dmcrypt-luks was what was used to encrypt the drive - it was already pre-installed on my system76 laptop
[22:50] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: what exactly does it say as the first error message? maybe take a screen shot with a smartphone or digital camera if you have such available, and post it
[22:50] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, the setupcrypt command did not successfully show the expected device in /dev/mapper
[22:50] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, unfortunately the executable completes silently without error
[22:52] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: i'm not familiar with the "setupcrypt" command
[22:52] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, shall I paste the output of `sudo fdisj -l` somewhere?
[22:52] <testuser1_____> s/fisj/fdisk
[22:52] <tomreyn> right now i'm primarily interested to understand what exactly happened when you booted.
[22:53] <nyc> I'm having ibus issues on 18.04.
[22:53] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: you say the screen is just blank when you reboot. maybe a recovery shell would work?
[22:53] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, just blank for a few momements until grub times out - then I get a grub prompt
[22:54] <tomreyn> ah, actual information there, good.
[22:54] <tomreyn> so you get a grub prompt, and no erro message, if i got you right?
[22:55] <testuser1_____> sorry I would have to reboot to see the error message
[22:55]  * testuser1_____ thinks encrypted drives are too much a headache
[22:55] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: do you have this system configured with full disk encryption but without a separate /boot file system?
[22:56] <analogical> how do I determin if Ubuntu is using a full or a half duplex network connection?
[22:56] <testuser1_____> shall I run fdisk to see?
[22:56] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: okay, post it to termbin
[22:56] <tomreyn> lsblk, too
[22:57] <xamithan> analogical: ethtool interfacename
[22:57] <analogical> xamithan, huh?
[22:57] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:58] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: works, too
[22:58] <xamithan> That's one way to find out,  you could just grep the dmesg for duplex too
[22:58] <testuser1_____> sorry where is termbin?
[23:00] <tomreyn> termbin.com , also <OerHeks> without dns, termbin works on IP too::  ls | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[23:00] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | also this, testuser1_____
[23:00] <testuser1_____> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t9Fbg2QHkq/
[23:01] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, piping to termbin is cool
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> analogical: "ethtool" is an application for seeing network device settings and parameters. "ethtool {interfacename}" replacing "{interfacename}" with the name of the network device i.e. eth0
[23:02] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: okay, can you add lsblk then
[23:02] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, sorry what is lsblk?
[23:02]  * testuser1_____ tries piping to termbin
[23:03] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: run this:  sudo lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:04] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, the nc commands seem to hang
[23:04] <testuser1_____> ok wait it completed
[23:05] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: and the output is?
[23:05] <testuser1_____> (my first pipe command anyway)
[23:06] <testuser1_____> termbin does not work for me right now; here is pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZrKqm4jwJC/
[23:07] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: so you have those 4 storages. it looks like what is currently sdc  is the live cd, dvd or usb you're currently booted from, does this seem correct?
[23:08] <analogical> xamithan, to use ethtool I need were to find the interfacename how do I do that?
[23:08] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, nvm is the boot, the others are connected by usb
[23:09] <xamithan>  analogical "ip a" will give all your interface names
[23:10] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, I would be happy to just mount the encypted disk, save abd backup "/home" onto TMP SSD, reinstall everything and call it a day
[23:10] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: so you're saying Disk /dev/nvme0n1 is what the system should normally be booting from, and what we need to fix?
[23:10] <testuser1_____> yes
[23:11] <testuser1_____> s/abd/and
[23:11] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: so how about this, does this work to get you access to the storage? https://askubuntu.com/a/653460
[23:11] <testuser1_____> thanks, let me see
[23:13] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: here'sa more complex and more complete variant which also takes UEFI into account: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T2kxPdWfMk/
[23:13] <testuser1_____> oh, it is the same article
[23:14] <testuser1_____> crap, the internet is flaky again
[23:14] <tomreyn> | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[23:14]  * testuser1_____ killed the wired network and it is better now
[23:15] <holoirc> Ubuntu 19.04 isn't showing my network connections however it shows my wifi is on, how to fix?
[23:16] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, did you create custom instructions for me in your last pastebin?
[23:16] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: i'm old and slow, so no.
[23:17] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, let me try the first set of instructions first with nvme0n1
[23:18] <testuser1_____> ok, that didn't work; trying reading your pastebin
[23:19] <holoirc> Never mind, shutting it down and then booting it back up helped.
[23:21] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, the command to make the resolver work in chroot did not seem to work; I put it in termbin
[23:22] <testuser1_____> should I ignore the error?
[23:22] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: yes, you can just rm the symlink inside the chroot late and create a file there instead.
[23:24] <DOSfan> back.
[23:25] <DOSfan> question : I just installed Ubuntu 16.X (i386) on a nice terca laptop ... on boot I some times get the second monitor .. it keep switching between resolutios and then finally does nothing ... any ideas?
[23:26] <DOSfan> I was going to try installing video drivers BUT it already was proviinbg the resulution I wanted .. I can't get it again in the screen res. options (was going at 1600x1200)
[23:27] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, I'm stuck on the `vgchange -ay /dev/` command
[23:29] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: this is only needed if you have lvm2 devices. lvmdiskscan should tell
[23:30] <tomreyn> did you run this? what was th eoutput?
[23:30] <testuser1_____> root@ubuntu:~# lvmdiskscan | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[23:30] <testuser1_____> https://termbin.com/uziq
[23:31] <tomreyn> that's a "no"
[23:31] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: how was this ubuntu system installed, since this is not a common partitioning scheme?
[23:31] <testuser1_____> I don't know if I have lvm2 devices
[23:32] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, pre-installed when I got my system76 laptop
[23:32] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: with disk encryption? weird.
[23:32] <tomreyn> and the cryptsetup command in line 16 worked?
[23:33] <testuser1_____> apparently - no errors reported
[23:34] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: so you now have what in /dev/mapper/ ?
[23:35] <DOSfan> hehehe back .. it's ALL ok .. video working just fine :)))
[23:35] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, I have only one file: "control"
[23:35] <DOSfan> I just had to make sure the laptop lid was closed so it REALLY forced it to use the second monitor. all good.
[23:36] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: post the output of: sudo dmsetup ls
[23:36] <Bashing-om> DOSfan: :)
[23:37] <testuser1_____> https://termbin.com/1i7c
[23:37] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: your cryptsetup comand did not succeed.
[23:37] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, any recommendations?
[23:38] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: are you sure that system76 installed ubuntu on this system , not some other OS, such as pop OS?
[23:38] <ceibal> kevin
[23:38] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, I don't remember
[23:38] <Boyette> hi
[23:40] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: what is the cryptsetup command you ran?
[23:41] <testuser1_____> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/nvme0n1 nvme0n1_crypt
[23:41] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: and this returned no output?
[23:41] <testuser1_____> but just now I ran `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/nvme0 nvme0_crypt`
[23:41] <testuser1_____> no output for either
[23:42] <tomreyn> did you run it with "sudo"?
[23:42] <testuser1_____> I'm already root
[23:42] <tomreyn> did it prompt you for a passphrase?
[23:43] <testuser1_____> nope
[23:43] <testuser1_____> tried it with sudo as well :(
[23:43] <tomreyn> then how would it have decrypted your decrypted storage
[23:43] <tomreyn> as you can se eon lines 50 to 61 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t9Fbg2QHkq/ /dev/nvme0n1 is the raw nvme storage device. and it is partitioned
[23:44] <tomreyn> based on what you stated so far, /dev/nvme0n1p3 may contain your crypto layer
[23:45] <testuser1_____> whoa! I got prompted for passphrase!
[23:46] <testuser1_____> should the device be in /dev/mapper now?
[23:46] <tomreyn> i don't know which command you ran, but probably, yes
[23:48] <testuser1_____> the device does show in /dev/mapper but how do I mount it?
[23:49] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: continue from line 19 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T2kxPdWfMk/
[23:50] <testuser1_____> https://termbin.com/x77m
[23:51] <tomreyn> carry on
[23:53] <testuser1_____> mount: /target: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'.
[23:54] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, seems so close but no cigar (yet?!)
[23:54] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: run "lvs" to see which logical volumes there are
[23:55] <tomreyn> you don't seem to have used the right path. but since i don't know which command you ran, i can only guess
[23:55] <testuser1_____> https://termbin.com/oghj
[23:56] <tomreyn> so /dev/data/root is what you want to mount
[23:56] <testuser1_____> what would be the command? mount /dev/data/root /target?
[23:57] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: yes, probably
[23:59] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, you are AWESOME! I mounted the disk but I can't seem to copy it anywhere yet!