[14:25]  * M_aD wonders why the volume buttons don't work on the lenovo thinkpad T410 with Studio. Tested a Xubuntu 19.04 live session and there was no problem with them.
[14:26] <M_aD> doh... was meant for the support channel... sorry
[14:38] <Eickmeyer> M_aD: There's a weird, known bug with xfce4-volumed. If you type "killall -9 xfce4-volumed && xfce4-volumed" it should fix that.
[14:40] <M_aD> Eickmeyer: thanks, that did it
[14:40] <Eickmeyer> I have a script that does that on login.
[14:58] <Eickmeyer> sakrecoer: Is there any chance we'll be able to have you help with testing your firewire devices so that OvenWerks can get the firewire settings right in Controls? Right now, you're the only person we have that can help with that. Neither OvenWerks nor I have Firewire.
[14:58] <Eickmeyer> That might be why it got neglected in Controls.
[15:01] <sakrecoer> sure! i suppose we would have to set a date :)
[15:01] <Eickmeyer> I'll leave that up to you two. 
[15:04] <OvenWerks> "might be" he says...
[15:05] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: would "is" be a better term?
[15:06] <OvenWerks> It is also why when there is only USB devices things don't work quite right
[15:07] <OvenWerks> there are a coulple of things like that. Another is that pulse output device default to  hw:0 rather than jack master
[15:08] <OvenWerks> (which is not even right for my system)
[15:08] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Are you seeing what sakrecoer is talking about in #ubuntustudio?
[15:09] <Eickmeyer> You might want to read some backlogs.
[15:11]  * Eickmeyer has to get his son ready for school, and then he has Linux Fest Northwest prep
[15:11] <OvenWerks> I just started... it looks about like I would expect so far.
[15:48] <sakrecoer> let me know whenever it works for you OvenWerks i'lldo my best to be available.
[15:48] <sakrecoer> Fridays and sundays are the best
[17:08]  * OvenWerks is off to breakfast with wife... back later
[17:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: the crash bug is what I will look for next
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok
[17:10] <OvenWerks> It may be enough to send dev as dev=",0,0"
[17:22] <Eickmeyer> We might need to make some sort of defaults file to keep qjackctl from autostopping Jack at close.
[17:22] <Eickmeyer> (probably a separate bug)
[20:10] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I don't know how we would do that. It may be better to have autojack check if jack is running... nope, it generally kills jack before it starts it. The bigger problem is qjackctl killing jackdbus on close.
[20:12] <OvenWerks> Rosco2: can you check if changing line 367 from start_slave(dev) to start_slave(dev+",0,0")
[20:12] <OvenWerks> will fix your crash problem?
[20:13] <OvenWerks> Rosco2: sorry, that file is /usr/bin/autojack (you will need sudo)
[20:19] <OvenWerks> That is not a real fix BTW, just a hack for testing :)
[20:19] <OvenWerks> It may cause trouble somewhere else
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I'll look into whatever config files can be made. Something in ~/.config should be telling. Sadly, I can't do that at present as I'm packing for Linux Fest Northwest.
[20:32] <Rosco2> Sorry OvenWerks, I stopped for a gin an tonic - and it was a bit strong!
[20:33] <Eickmeyer> Whoops! Rosco2 is getting tipsy!
[20:33] <Rosco2> I just tried reproducing the crash before making the suggested changes and I couldn't.
[20:34] <Rosco2> I might try again tomorrow when I am less tipsy :-)
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> hehehe
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> Good to see you in the chats, Rosco2. :)
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> Wow, we've had Rosco2 and sakrecoer in IRC within 24 hours of each other!
[20:35]  * Eickmeyer is putting the band back together. On a mission from God. *wears shades and a suit*
[20:35] <Rosco2> You think it is staring jack with controls, opening Qjaclkctl, then quitting Qjackctl which stops Jack?
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> Rosco2: It might be, and then autojack is getting confused as it's looking at the configuration last left by Controls.
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> That's just speculation, though.
[20:36] <Rosco2> EIther I am dislexic - or drunk!
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> Or both? XD
[20:37] <Rosco2> One more try to crash it
[20:51] <Rosco2> Baah. Why is it you only crash when you don't want to crash?
[20:51] <Rosco2> I will sty the code tomorrow and try and work out how to crash it properly.
[20:51] <Rosco2> study
[20:52] <Rosco2> Nighty night!
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> Good night! o/
[20:59]  * Eickmeyer is out for the weekend, available sporadically
[20:59] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: If you need me, just ping me with a @ in front of my name and it'll ping me on Telegram.