| silkairways | Hello friends | 02:13 |
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| silkairways | I found something interesting with my inquiry from yesterday | 02:13 |
| silkairways | I chose save session and shut down when i restarted the session only opened the web browser back up the apps that were open did not own automatically is this normal? | 02:16 |
| Eickmeyer | To be honest, I don't know. The folks in #xubuntu might know. | 02:17 |
| * Eickmeyer doesn't use that feature | 02:17 | |
| silkairways | Okay perhaps i will ask there thank you friend | 02:20 |
| Eickmeyer | You're welcome. :) | 02:20 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: FYI, there is a setting to restore last session. | 03:25 |
| OvenWerks | settings->session and startup->general | 03:27 |
| OvenWerks | There are two check boxes (it has changed since I last looked) Automatically save session and the display session chooser (I think). | 03:28 |
| OvenWerks | I don't know if the session chooser needs to be there or if it will default to last session. | 03:28 |
| OvenWerks | It is possible to save several sessions and choose between them as well. I thought that was a neat idea but then found that I never use it... | 03:29 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | silkairways: ^ | 03:47 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: he had already left :( | 03:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Strange. I don't see a part message (those show on Matrix as well). | 03:58 |
| OvenWerks | 19:49 -!- silkairways [~hidden@23.108.108.66] has quit [Quit: I am leaving now ! BYE] | 03:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 03:59 |
| OvenWerks | :) | 03:59 |
| studio-user267 | OI | 04:47 |
| m8w | And I am trying to find out what ubuntu studio version I am using but IDK where to do that ,,, I looked lots of places and figure it is an easy enough question that makes me wonder why I can't find it using just what is at hand.. anyway help? | 07:14 |
| m_ad[m] | to find out which version of ubuntu you're running just open a terminal and type lsb_release -a | 07:16 |
| m_ad[m] | first hit on google | 07:17 |
| m8w | thanks for the lsb_release -a that worked :) | 07:23 |
| m_ad[m] | you're welcome | 07:23 |
| studiobot | b_muhammad was added by: b_muhammad | 10:15 |
| studio-user693 | Hi, multimedia keys of my Adura Wireless Multimedia Keyboard Trust do not work in my ubuntustudio 19.04 fresa | 11:20 |
| studio-user693 | ...sorry...fresa | 11:20 |
| studio-user693 | ....fresh install. They used to work in previous versions out of the box. Any suggestion to make tremenda working? Thansk | 11:22 |
| sakrecoer | finally got arround setting up my DAW environement. And i am so lost in the "new way" of things lol | 13:32 |
| sakrecoer | i'm using my faithful teratec phase88 with firewire. and oh joy, it is now detected out of the box, without having to blacklist alsa FW drivers | 13:33 |
| sakrecoer | however, the Studio controls are puzzling me | 13:33 |
| sakrecoer | when i click "start or restart jack" the "autostart jack at session start" is checked. | 13:34 |
| sakrecoer | and it stops jack alright, but it doesn't restart it | 13:34 |
| sakrecoer | i used to be able to route audio coming from the FW card to the computer speakers, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. | 13:35 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | sakrecoer: That was intentionally done by OvenWerks so that it would remember exactly how you left the configuation if you restart. Hitting "Stop Jack" unchecks that. However, yes, you're correct, it's confusing. | 13:35 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Also, he's working on some firewire stuff as well. | 13:35 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Routing can be done with Carla or Patchage. | 13:36 |
| sakrecoer | wouldn't "apply audio settings" do that: "save things exactly as i left them?" | 13:36 |
| sakrecoer | so, if i stopp jack, it wont remember my settings? | 13:36 |
| sakrecoer | carla is another mystery... | 13:37 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I think "apply audio settings" makes changes to an already-running Jack. | 13:37 |
| sakrecoer | it sits nice on my desktop. But..... how do i add things to it lol | 13:37 |
| sakrecoer | oh wait, there are 2 carlas | 13:37 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | If you "Stop Jack" it will change everything back to the default setup, as in no Jack, audio is through Pulse. | 13:37 |
| sakrecoer | aha. thats cool! :) | 13:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | You need "Carla" not "Carla Control". Carla Control is for controlling it via OSC. | 13:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Carla is really easy. Click "Add Plugin" and you can select from the vast list of plugins. It, by default, treats each plugin as a spearate instance for Jack. | 13:39 |
| sakrecoer | cool! | 13:39 |
| sakrecoer | it seems it "failed to start engine on first try" | 13:39 |
| sakrecoer | start or restart jack has absolutely no effect in my setup... i'm gonna try reboot | 13:40 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yikes. | 13:40 |
| sakrecoer | oh... hehe "reboot" has no effect either lol | 13:41 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks might not be up yet. I'm up unusually early today for no reason whatsoever. | 13:41 |
| sakrecoer | :) | 13:43 |
| sakrecoer | after reboot, carla got back in the game... | 13:44 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | \o/ | 13:44 |
| sakrecoer | i'm puzzled about the new way of the pusle volume control... | 13:44 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's odd. We didn't make any changes to the panel/default volume control. | 13:45 |
| sakrecoer | it doesn't show anything... only a "dummy output" in the output devices.. | 13:45 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Okay, that means the Jack - Pulse bridge isn't running. | 13:45 |
| sakrecoer | for instance, when you start firefox, it would show there and you could chose where it would be output under it... | 13:45 |
| sakrecoer | now it shows the firefox thing but no way to chose output... (well right now it doen't show anything tbh) | 13:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | The Jack - Pulse bridge isn't running is what that tells me. | 13:47 |
| sakrecoer | weird... that's straight after reboot... it seems like jack was running, but no sign of it in there... | 13:47 |
| sakrecoer | i'll just give it another reboot. Maybe the audio card got hung up | 13:48 |
| sakrecoer | again, rebooting from the menu is not feasible | 13:48 |
| sakrecoer | sudo reboot does it though | 13:48 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | The way OvenWerks set it up, after reboot, it should remember however Jack was last set and reapply the settings. | 13:49 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Also, strange that reboot isn't working from the menu. | 13:49 |
| * Eickmeyer[m] has had no problem with that at all. | 13:49 | |
| sakrecoer | it would seem changing the settings in ubuntustudio control has broken my pulse audio... | 13:51 |
| sakrecoer | it doesn't recover after reboot. | 13:51 |
| sakrecoer | i'll just try different settings | 13:52 |
| sakrecoer | :) | 13:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, something doesn't seem right. If reboot isn't working from the menu, something tells me you've got a lot of broken things. | 13:52 |
| sakrecoer | tryed to "connect other internal audio interfaces" but that didn't do it... | 13:54 |
| sakrecoer | acral will show me sound in the vue, until i click anything in control | 13:54 |
| sakrecoer | carla even | 13:54 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Sadly, I don't know the exact internals. I just know that it works perfectly on my system as intended. It's important to remember that Controls doesn't show what is currently running, it only configures what gets applied with that "start/restart" button. | 13:54 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | You haven't, by chance, ever run "Cadence" from KXStudio, have you? | 13:54 |
| sakrecoer | no | 13:54 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Reason I'm asking is because a lot of your issues sound like what happens when people run Cadence. It takes-over Pulse's configuration pretty badly. | 13:55 |
| sakrecoer | on reboot it would seem like carla thinks jack is running, but qtjackctl says it isn't... | 13:55 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | And, yes, if anything is done in ubuntustudio-controls, Carla pretty much has to be restarted. | 13:55 |
| sakrecoer | ah good to know | 13:55 |
| sakrecoer | didn't help to restart carla... | 13:56 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | As would anything running on top of Jack. | 13:56 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Does qjackctl show Jack running? | 13:56 |
| sakrecoer | i suppose i would wish us-controls would show me if it is running or not.. | 13:56 |
| sakrecoer | no qtjackctl shows stopped. but trying to start it from there isn't working either. | 13:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's already work-in-progress. | 13:57 |
| sakrecoer | awesome! | 13:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | You said your system runs firewire? | 13:58 |
| sakrecoer | yes | 13:58 |
| sakrecoer | i can pick my card in controls | 13:58 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That might explain it. Some stuff got blacklisted in the kernel for whatever reason. That's another thing OvenWerks is working on. | 13:58 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Some genius thought it would be a good idea to blacklist support for firewire audio devices. | 13:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Upstream. | 13:59 |
| sakrecoer | it used to be the only way to run it lol | 13:59 |
| sakrecoer | blacklisting all alsa FW | 13:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yep, but we found out recently that doesn't work. | 14:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That Alsa FW has actually come a long way. | 14:00 |
| sakrecoer | now if i do that (that which i used to do) it doen't work. But it does detect the card now without those blacklistings which it doesnt | 14:00 |
| sakrecoer | wow.. | 14:00 |
| sakrecoer | weird sentence sorry | 14:00 |
| sakrecoer | interesting... | 14:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Unfortunately, I only have USB interfaces, so I can't be of much help here. All I know is that we did run into an issue with FW recently. | 14:01 |
| sakrecoer | controls will stopp my jack, ican see that in qtjackctl, but not restart it | 14:01 |
| sakrecoer | i can start it from qtjackctl | 14:02 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | QJackCtl might need a restart if Jack is started from Controls. | 14:02 |
| sakrecoer | no worries Eickmeyer[m] | 14:02 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It expects to be one to start Jack, so it doesn't even bother trying to see if something else is starting it. | 14:03 |
| sakrecoer | i find it easier to debug if i can be add --verbose to myself :D | 14:03 |
| sakrecoer | not expecting anyone to assist me, although, i'd appreciate any help of course :) | 14:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Right. | 14:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | This is definitely the kind of thing OvenWerks could use help on in -devel when he's okay to work on it again. | 14:04 |
| sakrecoer | that was my thoguht about my wetware --verbose flag: maybe someone will pick something usefull up in my ramblings :D but it felt more suitable in the support channel | 14:08 |
| sakrecoer | also, sometimes by "saying" stuff "out loud" i realize things | 14:08 |
| * sakrecoer sings "kuckoo kuckoo" on a tree | 14:09 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | hahaha | 14:10 |
| sakrecoer | hmm... unchecking the "auto start jack on session start" isn't saved... so now it walwys start on session start | 14:12 |
| sakrecoer | after a restart, pulse can see my FW card, but not qtjackctl | 14:13 |
| sakrecoer | calra starts and its vu shows me audio... | 14:13 |
| sakrecoer | i can connect the output to the system output, which is progress :D but i would like to connect it to my FW card | 14:14 |
| sakrecoer | hmm... the settings differ in qtjack and controls... | 14:14 |
| sakrecoer | maybe that is why... qtjack has 259 Frames/period, control has 512 | 14:15 |
| sakrecoer | one issue sorted: reboot didn't work because carla is quitely asking me if i want to save before quit | 14:17 |
| sakrecoer | which i would've been gratefull for in other circumstances | 14:18 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Remember, Controls is simply configuration. It does not necessarily indicate (with the checkboxes) what that configuration is. | 14:18 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | sakrecoer: Have you seen the wiki page I made about Controls? | 14:19 |
| sakrecoer | no i haven't :) | 14:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | !ubuntustudio-controls | 14:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls | 14:20 |
| sakrecoer | cheers Eickmeyer[m] | 14:22 |
| sakrecoer | i'm so lost lol :D if i use the "firewire" driver in the qtjackctl settings, i can connect my firewire input to PulseAudio Jack source... | 14:24 |
| sakrecoer | but then.... how do i connect PulseAudio Jack source to the speakers? | 14:24 |
| sakrecoer | say the computer speakers... am i being naiv thinking that should be possible somewhere? | 14:25 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Was qjackctl doing it for you before? | 14:26 |
| sakrecoer | i'm not sure anymore... But the way i remember is that i would go to the PA Volume Control, and under the Jack Sink somewhere in there, i could pick an output from the system | 14:27 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I see. I've never been able to use that with Jack running. I always had to manually route Pulse to whatever output I wanted, whether that was my audio interface or my computer speakers. | 14:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | With Jack stopped, sure, I could use that menu no problem. | 14:30 |
| sakrecoer | i guess i should just stop being lazy and start wireing things up instead of trying to route FW -> computer speakr lol | 14:31 |
| sakrecoer | there was this.... "sink" something that would work fine when jack was started... | 14:32 |
| sakrecoer | like, you could plug firefox in there and hear it when jack was running... | 14:32 |
| sakrecoer | Pulse Audio Jack sink or something | 14:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah. I know what you | 14:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | 're talking about. | 14:33 |
| sakrecoer | oh... i can play firefox alright, but the sound is being intermitently muted | 14:33 |
| sakrecoer | like a square waveform LFO on the volume lol | 14:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | If the bridge is checked in Controls, it should automatically route all system sounds to the sink. | 14:33 |
| sakrecoer | bridge is checked... | 14:34 |
| sakrecoer | also autostart, dang it | 14:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Okay, that's unusual behavior, and sounds like a hardware issue. :open_mouth: | 14:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Again, that autostart does not necessarily mean it was set to start at login. | 14:34 |
| sakrecoer | well.... itonly happens when jack is running | 14:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yes, because he set it to leave Jack in whatever state it was in if the computer is restarted. | 14:35 |
| sakrecoer | interesting everything is deconnected in Jack, but the broken sound from firefox is comming through | 14:35 |
| sakrecoer | so where do i control the settings for my system audio? | 14:36 |
| sakrecoer | like, where do i route it? | 14:36 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | In my experience, if any change is made to the sound configuration (Jack running/not running), anything that makes sound has to be restarted. | 14:36 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Otherwise I've had unexpected behavior. | 14:36 |
| sakrecoer | it's freshly rebooted... | 14:37 |
| * Eickmeyer switches to actual IRC | 14:37 | |
| sakrecoer | i didn't do any changes to settings... except disconnecting everything in jack | 14:37 |
| sakrecoer | oh! and now i have that button in PA volume control again | 14:39 |
| sakrecoer | where i can chose where the sound is going | 14:39 |
| sakrecoer | i can even chose my firewire... | 14:39 |
| sakrecoer | :O | 14:39 |
| sakrecoer | but jack is NOT running... | 14:39 |
| Eickmeyer | That's expected. It sound like Pulse is handling everything now. If Jack is running, all routing must be done with Jack, not with the volume control which is a Pulse control only. | 14:40 |
| sakrecoer | connnecting it to firewire and sounds come through | 14:40 |
| sakrecoer | hmm... | 14:40 |
| sakrecoer | but then... how do i route my system audio in jack? | 14:40 |
| Eickmeyer | With Carla or Patchage. | 14:41 |
| sakrecoer | i don't get any thing from firefox in there | 14:41 |
| sakrecoer | aha | 14:41 |
| sakrecoer | interesting | 14:41 |
| Eickmeyer | Carla has a tab that says "Patchbay" that is just that: a graphical patchbay. It funcitons similarily, but more stable, than patchage. | 14:41 |
| Eickmeyer | If you have the Pulse bridge checked, it becomes "PulseIn" and "PulseOut" in the patchbay. | 14:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Firefox does not display as its own application because it's not "Jack-aware".. | 14:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Anything that would normally run audio without Jack will come out of "PulseOut". | 14:43 |
| sakrecoer | but carla patchbay is an exact replica of what i see in qtjackctl connections | 14:47 |
| sakrecoer | same in patchages... | 14:47 |
| sakrecoer | so many different places... | 14:49 |
| sakrecoer | i can't wrap my head arround the cooperation between settings in Controls and in qtjackctl | 14:49 |
| sakrecoer | they don't seem to reflect eachother | 14:50 |
| Eickmeyer | They won't. QJackCtl's settings and Control's settings are independent of one another. They literally only see thier own configs. | 14:51 |
| sakrecoer | but they both control the same thing? | 14:51 |
| sakrecoer | isn't that kindof the golden rule for creating conflicts? | 14:52 |
| Eickmeyer | QJackCtl is no longer the preferred method for starting/stopping Jack. It can be used to monitor Jack and the logs, but that's about it. It's easier to support Controls. | 14:52 |
| Eickmeyer | That's stated in the release notes. | 14:52 |
| sakrecoer | ok, but controls don't give me any ptions for chosing a driver | 14:53 |
| Eickmeyer | It doesn't? | 14:53 |
| sakrecoer | i can chose a usb and a non-usb device. | 14:53 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, you mean FireWire. | 14:53 |
| sakrecoer | but the non-usb device being firewire, i should be able to chose either of the three options: freebob, firewire or alsa | 14:53 |
| sakrecoer | freebob being ffado these days i think | 14:54 |
| sakrecoer | also i can't satart jack from controls. | 14:54 |
| sakrecoer | probably because it picks the wrong firewire driver... | 14:55 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, OvenWerks is the best person to talk to about that. This gets over my head. | 14:55 |
| sakrecoer | i see...i wonder why include qtjackctl if it's no longer relevant | 14:57 |
| Eickmeyer | Because it's still good for monitoring, and Jack has it as a dependency. | 14:59 |
| Eickmeyer | Basically, we couldn't remove it if we tried, sakrecoer. | 15:01 |
| sakrecoer | makes sense :) | 15:01 |
| sakrecoer | it woudl seems that alsa helps get my firewire to pulse | 15:01 |
| sakrecoer | but not to jack | 15:01 |
| sakrecoer | i'm gonna try that old blacklisting hack | 15:02 |
| sakrecoer | gah! everytime i touch controls, it sets it back to autostart! | 15:02 |
| sakrecoer | and it does apply it too | 15:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Make sure, before rebooting, to "Stop Jack" in controls. It's a workaround, but that's the best advice I've got. | 15:03 |
| sakrecoer | thanks! | 15:03 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> (Photo, 504x350) https://i.imgur.com/OSCaRI5.jpg | 15:04 |
| sakrecoer | all good... but still no sound... PuolseAudio Jack source leads nowhere... | 15:04 |
| Eickmeyer | sakrecoer: Try doing it in Carla. | 15:05 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> (Photo, 499x405) https://i.imgur.com/XF0uz0d.jpg | 15:05 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> you can see the vu is active.. | 15:05 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes. Try doing it in Carla. The patchabay in Qjackctl has never made sense to me. | 15:06 |
| sakrecoer | same connections are visibule in carla | 15:06 |
| Eickmeyer | What's the sample rate? | 15:06 |
| sakrecoer | 512 | 15:06 |
| sakrecoer | 96000 | 15:06 |
| sakrecoer | i tried with 44100 too.. | 15:06 |
| Eickmeyer | That might be why. PulseAudio doesn't like sample rates above 48000. | 15:06 |
| sakrecoer | oh! | 15:07 |
| sakrecoer | hmm... 44.1 should do it then... but let me see maybe there was other stuff going on when i tried that | 15:07 |
| sakrecoer | i have to reboot everytime after i stop jack, once started and stopped once, it just wont restart | 15:08 |
| sakrecoer | pulse never fails to detect my FW card. But jack is really random at startup. sometimes it will be fine with starting the firewire driver, sometimes not.. | 15:13 |
| sakrecoer | with jack stoped i can play audio from the FW card | 15:13 |
| Eickmeyer | sakrecoer: As I look at it, in qjackctl, it looks like you were routing your FW inputs to the Pulse inputs. If you scrolled down further, you would've seen the pulse outputs on the left, which you could then route to your speakers and/or FW outputs. | 15:16 |
| sakrecoer | hmm... i'm going to try that... | 15:17 |
| OvenWerks | sakrecoer: if you are using qjackctl (which you will have to do to use the ffado driver) then you need to "stop jack" in controls. | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | this will make sure autojack does not try to start jack at startup (and fail). | 15:27 |
| OvenWerks | It will also mean that pulse will be set up stock. | 15:27 |
| OvenWerks | pulse will be able to see your alsa devices as before. | 15:27 |
| OvenWerks | -controls will be rewritten for 19.10 to include FW as well as be easier to figure out. | 15:29 |
| OvenWerks | The apply button will go away and will be applied each time something is changed. | 15:30 |
| studiobot | HMollerCl was removed by: HMollerCl | 15:30 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> cheers Ovenwerks | 15:32 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> tried blacklisting the alsa drivers but that doens't work either | 15:33 |
| OvenWerks | The start and stop jack buttons may be relabeled. Basically, stop jack disables _all_ settings in -controls | 15:33 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> using freebob simply doesn't work anymore. | 15:33 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> (freebob in jack, but ffado i suppose= | 15:33 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> ffado detects my card though | 15:33 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> i can do the settings and all in there... | 15:33 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> but then of course, pulse doesn't see it. | 15:33 |
| OvenWerks | sakrecoer: you have to blacklist the alsa drivers and unblacklist the ffado drivers and rebuild initrd | 15:34 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> the only driver that works in qtjackctl is firewire, but then i have no midi and well... no sound either,.... | 15:34 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> oh wait! yes sound! | 15:34 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> wuhuu! | 15:34 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> not through the computer speakers but that doens't matter.. | 15:34 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> now to figure out the midi part lol | 15:35 |
| OvenWerks | You should have midi that should not have changed, but only in jack | 15:35 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> wait! YES MIDI WORKS! | 15:35 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> wuhu! blacklisting alsa was the cut! | 15:35 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> let's see if i can mix my hardware audio signal with some soft synth :P | 15:35 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> wuhuuu!!! | 15:36 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> hahahaha | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | you should still be able to bridge pulse to jack | 15:36 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> ok, alsa got no more love from me! | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | (actually it should just happen) | 15:36 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> i can !!!! ❤️ | 15:37 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> but not throgh the system speakers | 15:37 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> only through the fw card outputs | 15:37 |
| OvenWerks | zita-j2a | 15:37 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> i now have youtube, my hardware park and calf monosnyth playing in my PA ❤️ | 15:37 |
| OvenWerks | I have found that I need to turn all alsa cards off in pulse for jack stability | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | if pulse can see even one alsa card, it will use that as it's sync source for everything and there will be the odd xrun due to that | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | jack freewheeel may not work etc. | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | That is why controls unloads alsa drivers from pulse | 15:40 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> the midi works so goood | 15:40 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> hahaha | 15:40 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> but yeah... it seems it only works when alsa FW is blacklisted | 15:41 |
| studiobot | <Sakrecoer> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit#Firewire these ones | 15:41 |
| OvenWerks | sakrecoer: it has to be one or the other | 15:41 |
| sakrecoer | OvenWerks: that is fine by me, as long as one of them work :) | 15:42 |
| sakrecoer | but it ouwld seem that controls doesn't really work for my use case... | 15:42 |
| sakrecoer | or maybe i'm just missing something | 15:42 |
| OvenWerks | you are missing nothing | 15:43 |
| OvenWerks | controls expects fw to work through alsa | 15:43 |
| OvenWerks | (in this release) | 15:43 |
| sakrecoer | i suppose it is the same thing as it used to be: alsa FW conflicts with ffado | 15:44 |
| OvenWerks | it will always be that way | 15:44 |
| sakrecoer | so perhaps alsa FW has become better, but it still isn't a good match with ffado | 15:44 |
| OvenWerks | I have already added a backend button that can choose a jack backend | 15:44 |
| sakrecoer | well, at least now we know, if someone else is asking :) | 15:44 |
| sakrecoer | it is not broken if it works | 15:45 |
| sakrecoer | it's just a different setup | 15:45 |
| sakrecoer | and that is fine by me... typicall that i got so much issues from being lazy... i mean, had i not tried to route the audio of the FW card to the computer speakrs, i wouldn't have had any issue lol | 15:45 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, I think I will try unloading any alsa-fw modules on the fly if someone selects the fw back end | 15:46 |
| sakrecoer | wow! <3 | 15:46 |
| sakrecoer | i'd be happy with something like that... | 15:46 |
| OvenWerks | (now that I have a test subject) | 15:46 |
| sakrecoer | yesss!!! use me in my device as a guinea pig <3 | 15:47 |
| sakrecoer | *and my device | 15:47 |
| sakrecoer | i guess it's time to go digg behind my patchbay now that i got this side of the DAW-rig working | 15:50 |
| sakrecoer | i haven't even connected the audio card to it since i got the patchbay... | 15:50 |
| sakrecoer | i had a relapse into using a hardware recorder... but i've been feeling limited in terms of arrangements. It's a lot easier with copy paste and drag and drop lol | 15:52 |
| sakrecoer | Thank you very much for your help Eickmeyer and OvenWerks <3 | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer | sakrecoer: You're welcome. :) | 15:55 |
| sakrecoer | i like this carla thing very much! | 16:03 |
| sakrecoer | and i think it is the first time i have such consistent and steady midi going through my system while the computer is involved | 16:04 |
| sakrecoer | hmmm... pops and clicks when playing firefox audio. :'( lol | 16:11 |
| sakrecoer | haha! damn you telegram! closing it removed the pops and clicks | 16:15 |
| M_aD | pops and clicks... latency problem iirc | 16:15 |
| sakrecoer | i tried to change the buffer size.. but didn't do anything to it | 16:16 |
| sakrecoer | killing telegram did. seemingly at least. | 16:16 |
| sakrecoer | odd because the system load was at 4% | 16:16 |
| sakrecoer | one more time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKF5LCHZREg | 16:18 |
| sakrecoer | nah, restarted telegram and it didn't come back... something is fishy. i'll get to the bottom of this! | 16:18 |
| studiobot | <er_lenin> @Eickmeyer [I'm going to go ahead and agree with the answer on there that it sounds like a h …], Dudes, … Since I have activated VSYNC option on Intel graphics and Nvidia Graphics, MY PC IS NOT RESETTING MORE ANYTIME!!!!!! … One week without suddenly freezes and/or system resets !!!!!!! … At least this works on Acer laptops with | 16:19 |
| studiobot | Intel HD graphic cards … 🙂 | 16:19 |
| bongfrog | Any see an issue where with Nvidia 105ti and propriary drivers every other reboot only one of three monitors is reconized.? reboot and the other two are there... | 16:20 |
| studiobot | <Eickmeyer> @er_lenin [Dudes, … Since I have activated VSYNC option on Intel graphics and Nvidia Graphic …], Nice! Congrats! | 16:20 |
| bongfrog | might be related but I also get a blank screen when attempting to run the nvidia settings app | 16:21 |
| Eickmeyer | bongfrog: Issues with NVidia graphics has been a recurring theme in all of Ubuntu. I'd suggest joining #ubuntu and asking there. | 16:22 |
| * Eickmeyer doesn't have NVidia | 16:22 | |
| Eickmeyer | !nvidia | bongfrog | 16:22 |
| ubottu | bongfrog: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 16:22 |
| bongfrog | Thanks for the hint | 16:31 |
| hggdh | Eickmeyer: for bug 1826413 -- perhaps you can add a task for Disco, I cannot. I think this is because the main task was on the up-stream project | 17:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1826413 in ubuntustudio-controls "ALSA Jack Midi bridge off selection not surviving a reboot" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1826413 | 17:44 |
| hggdh | Eickmeyer: also, there should be a task for Eoan as well (it has to be fixed on Eoan before being SRU-ed) | 17:45 |
| Eickmeyer | hggdh: I cannot. It was "fix released" before I could've tasked it. | 17:45 |
| Eickmeyer | I didn't know he was going to do it so quickly! | 17:45 |
| hggdh | hu. Let me see if I can clear it out -- meaning I will take it out of fix-released, an see what happens | 17:46 |
| hggdh | amazing. I moved it to fix committed, and... the whole task vanished! | 17:47 |
| hggdh | Eickmeyer: try to add the tasks now | 17:48 |
| hggdh | (I cannot act on non-Ubuntu projects | 17:48 |
| Eickmeyer | hggdh: I just re-added it, but I'm not allowed to task Ubuntu bugs, just triage them. (ironically). | 17:49 |
| hggdh | ... and I do not have the "target series" on this bug. I guess we could go to #launchpad and try to find out what gives | 17:52 |
| Eickmeyer | Yep, meet you there. | 17:52 |
| Eickmeyer | hggdh: Looks like we're good not. | 18:00 |
| Eickmeyer | *now | 18:00 |
| hggdh | yep | 18:00 |
| * Eickmeyer goes back to LFNW prep | 18:01 | |
| studiobot | <fernandocastilho> Confira "Mônica Toy" na Netflix … www.netflix.com/title/81072410?source=android | 19:18 |
| studio-user099 | eh, is there anyone here? | 19:35 |
| M_aD | studio-user099: if you have a support question just ask and see if someone can help you | 19:45 |
| studio-user099 | I am trying to use Guitarix as a real time effect, but seems my computer is not fast enough. | 19:54 |
| studio-user099 | Using ubuntu studio on a 32 bit 18.04 | 19:54 |
| studio-user099 | Intel® Core™ i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz × 4 | 19:55 |
| studio-user099 | 3.8 GB of RAM | 19:56 |
| Eickmeyer | studio-user099: Have you added the Backports PPA? | 19:56 |
| Eickmeyer | !ubuntustudio-backports | studio-user099 | 19:56 |
| ubottu | studio-user099: The Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer | 19:56 |
| M_aD | Why use 32 bit on a 64bit system? | 19:56 |
| studio-user099 | I did not have the backports PPA. Now I have, thanks for the help. | 19:58 |
| studio-user099 | is Intel® Sandybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2 a 64 bit CPU? | 19:59 |
| studio-user099 | The computer is an Acer 5750g, that I have always thought was a 32 bit machine... | 20:00 |
| M_aD | https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/53450/intel-core-i5-2430m-processor-3m-cache-up-to-3-00-ghz.html | 20:00 |
| studio-user099 | Oops. | 20:01 |
| studio-user099 | Now this became somewhat complicated. How to upgrade from 32 to 64 bit? I guess wipeout and reinstall is the only way, or? | 20:01 |
| M_aD | reinstall would be better | 20:01 |
| M_aD | you could try and see if the 64bit works from a live usb first | 20:02 |
| studio-user099 | will do | 20:02 |
| M_aD | :) | 20:02 |
| studio-user099 | How to make a 64 bit bootable USB on a 32 bit OS? | 20:03 |
| M_aD | just install startup disk creator | 20:04 |
| M_aD | creating a live usb doesn't depend on having a 32 or 64 bit machine | 20:05 |
| studio-user099 | OK. Downloading... | 20:06 |
| studio-user099 | Meanwhile, is there an RT kernel for Ubuntu Studio anymore? | 20:06 |
| M_aD | maybe Eickmeyer knows, i'm still re-learning about ubuntu studio since i haven't used it for years so i can't tell | 20:11 |
| OvenWerks | lowlatency has almost all of the rt code in it already. | 20:15 |
| M_aD | thanks OvenWerks :) | 20:15 |
| OvenWerks | It does save a tiny bit of run time for everything else so that an RT process can't lock the copmputer | 20:16 |
| OvenWerks | In fact the vanilla kernel has most of the RT code in it to but it is not enabled by default | 20:17 |
| studio-user099 | My system does not give a reliable Jack at below 10ms, which is not good enough for Guitarix. | 20:21 |
| studio-user099 | Thats why I am looking for helå | 20:22 |
| studio-user099 | help | 20:22 |
| Eickmeyer | !realtime | studio-user099 | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | !rt | studio-user099 | 20:25 |
| ubottu | studio-user099: the RT kernel is the Linux kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is not available in Ubuntu. See also !lowllatency | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | !lowllatency | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | !lowlatency | studio-user099 | 20:25 |
| ubottu | studio-user099: The lowlatency kernel is a special Ubuntu kernel build with modifications for systems which require low latency when communicating with some hardware, such as some Audio devices. Included with Ubuntu Studio by default. | 20:25 |
| studio-user099 | ok | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | studio-user099: Furthermore, the only real-world use of the RT kernel is if you have a dedicated, embedded system which does nothing but run audio. A good example of this would be the kernel used in the Behringer X32 or the Allen & Heath iLive series of mixers. | 20:31 |
| Eickmeyer | studio-user099: My speculation is that your system might not be capable of 100% real-time audio processing. | 20:32 |
| studio-user099 | Hmm, that is sad. | 20:36 |
| OvenWerks | studio-user099: It may be some tweaking is required too. | 20:54 |
| OvenWerks | When you say 4 cores is that the standard i5 with 4 cores or the mobile with 2 cores that looks like 4 cores because on hyperthreading? | 20:55 |
| OvenWerks | I have an i5 with 4 cores and have been able to get very low latenecy (3 ms round trip with device latency included) | 20:56 |
| * OvenWerks is out for a few hours | 20:56 | |
| * Eickmeyer is likewise out for the weekend, might be sporadically available | 20:58 | |
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