[00:00] route309: you could try asking this in ##hardware and maybe in ##linux if they're ok with polls. here we only do ubuntu support. [00:00] oohh sorry about that @tomreyn.. new to IRC :) [00:01] tomreyn, lightdm is already the newest version [00:01] route309: no worries then. be sure to always read the channel /topic 's [00:01] OerHeks, I get rooms confused too often....I do not know if snaps were out for anything under 18.04.....let alone ppc ;) [00:02] entrepreneur_: if you'Re saying you installed, system-wide, a pythin version which differs from the one your ubuntu release came with, then i think you won a free re-install training. [00:16] I'm only useing 'ports' version because the 46mb mini.iso wouldn't start networking or whatever was missing after 3 hours of installing where after three hours installing from this 76mb mini ports iso allows me to at least be this far.... [00:17] I have no tty7 or tty8 so how to get gui going.....just wanting help I'll go back to lurk if needed....would like to not run gui as root [00:18] lightdm has been installed since I installed [00:18] I added gdm3 but kept lightdm as the preferred thought that was fav for xfce4 [00:20] Questions: When installing Ubuntu 18.04 on its own, clean, blankc SSD alongside another SSD with Windows 10, is the automatic configuration going to install Grub? If so, where? Also, will it install Swap? Is this needed? Should I do a custom install (i.e. select "Something Else" when prompted)? [00:20] Note, I have everything set up for UEFI, Secure Boot and Fast Boot off [00:22] hi all! i'm looking for a talking face application (with moving lips and face expression). something like lucia or botlibre that is more linux friendly and can be self hosted. any suggestions? :) [00:25] To rephrase: Will the Ubuntu installation process automatically set up swap space and Grub? Or must I choose "Something Else" and do it manually? [00:26] Myth, i don't think you should do it manually, mine offered it automatically [00:26] Sveta, Oh, good. I was hoping. Did it set swap up too? [00:26] yes [00:27] Thanks! I'll give it a go [00:28] sure, make sure you have a backup of your everything before you begin. handy, even though it is not common for things to break [00:29] Sveta, Aye. Trying to decide on LVM now [00:30] Never used it [00:31] Thanks for your answrer tomreyn, I was trying reinstalling python3-apt but didn't work too [00:33] Myth: lvm is ok [00:34] I'm just always nervous because sometimes I think something is going to be simple... and then it is not [00:34] entrepreneur_: use virtualenv's and not sudo, i guess this would work, but am not that much into python. [00:34] And then I have to reinstall Ubuntu for the 673rd time [00:35] I've probably spent a cumulative 19 1/2 months installing and troubleshooting [00:36] Myth: why did your last install stop working? [00:38] Sveta, Well, the last install was a reinstall in itself. It was working great, but the Grub loader wasn't working. Figured out it may have been due to my Windows 10 install (separate drive) being legacy instead of UEFI. I've since converted it [00:38] Now everything except my cd drive will be UEFI [00:39] Still learning about UEFI [00:40] The last install was due to the previous one having an issue running Cinnamon via the embrosyn PPA after kernel software update. Unable to fix it even after removing and reinstalling from other sources, I axed it [00:40] !uefi | Myth Seen this ? - [00:40] Myth Seen this ? -: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [00:42] Myth, is everything working except the cd drive? [00:42] Bashing-om, Thanks! Haven't seen that one [00:43] is there a way to reload nvidia driver without a reboot? [00:43] Sveta, It all works. I have BIOS set to run UEFI & Legacy [00:43] sometimes, quite rarely I get a weird bug when chromium and firefox stop playing videos at all [00:43] No clue how to have the cd drive in UEFI [00:43] for no good reason [00:43] Maybe too old even [00:43] I suspect that it's nvidia driver that is at fault [00:43] I harvested the cd drive from my old computer, so... yeah [00:46] Myth, I am confused. is the cd drive working or not? [00:49] Sveta, So far as I can tell, it works [00:49] For a piece of crap, it works [01:23] hi, I'm trying to diagnose why I cannot reach a dedicated server running Ubuntu 18.04. I've finally been able to KVM in, but I'm kind of lost. What should I check to diagnose network access? [01:24] hyperknot: how are you normally connecting to it? [01:24] normally via ssh [01:24] now it's down, so is ping [01:24] sudo lsof -i :22 [01:24] all I have is a super bad quality KVM [01:25] tomreyn: I cannot even do ping 8.8.8.8 [01:25] network is unreachable [01:25] via KMV [01:25] KVM [01:25] i assume it uses systemd-networkd for networking? [01:25] standard 18.04 I guess [01:26] networkctl [01:26] should list the state of network interfaces [01:27] it says routable configuring [01:27] i'll need to bring up a VM to compare it quickly [01:28] configuring is in yellow, probably it means bad [01:28] how can I check the latest installed packages? [01:28] it means it did not finish configuration, yet [01:29] less /var/log/apt/term.log or history.log [01:29] the former shows what actually happened, the latter shows the actions which were requested [01:29] so the latter is a bit higher level. [01:31] ok [01:32] "systemctl status network.target" and the same for "network-online.target" may help understand the state of things [01:33] it's online [01:33] both of these are good [01:35] does networkctl status report "routable" yet? [01:36] your system log since the latest reboot can be viewed using journalctl -b [01:36] this may tell what happened to the network link [01:37] there'S probably a better / more specific way to find out, but i'm pretty new to systemd-networkd myself, still [01:38] networkct status is routable [01:38] so the status reported by just "networkctl" should have changed, too [01:38] the network interface status, that is. [01:43] hyperknot: how are you coming? [01:43] tomreyn: now I'm fighint with the KVM, it's unresponsive for some reason [01:44] hmm annoying, which hardware is it? [01:44] no idea, some kind of external system with analogue video input [01:44] hetzner server itself is quite nice, but this KVM is crazy [01:45] oh hetzner, so it's a spider [01:45] yes [01:45] those aren't great, but cheap. there are different generations. have them give you a current one, those are not as bad. [01:46] how do I know which generation is it? [01:47] not sure, i think it says somewhere in the help / about area [01:50] bottom right should tell https://wiki.hetzner.de/images/8/8b/LARA_Welcome.png [01:52] Looking for some help with x11vnc. Under Ubuntu 18.04 if I run it manually I'm able to connect from a remote machine, but if I try to start it as a service I get an xauth error, unable to generate an authority file name [01:52] tomreyn: same version [01:53] well thsose are old but they have even older ones, so it may not get better than this, [01:53] anyways, this would be more a topic for #hetzner [01:55] tomreyn: thanks I'm trying that for the KVM [01:57] Amorphous: i haven't really set it up, yet, but assume that you'll need to run it under your systemd user session since everything X runs in the users context (and thus the xauthority file is owned by the user) with systemd [01:58] i have a problem i install xfce4 desktop enviromewnt and when i click on the icon of the terminal emulator i get and error as there is not a terminal install [01:59] oooops wrong channel i should've asked thin on xfce channel [01:59] sorry [01:59] tomreyn: Is that something I would set in the .service file? [02:00] I'm not too familiar with systemd yet. My last install was Ubuntu 12.04. [02:02] Amorphous: i have yet to learn about it as well. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User seems to provide a good overview [02:02] I'll give it a look, thanks [02:05] Amorphous: i assume this (non user session / service) guide may work with 18.04: https://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=12220 [02:09] i thinkt he service file should actually go to /etc/systemd/system/ for user installed services, though [02:11] So ubuntu [02:11] I've come across something concerning [02:11] I've blacklisted motd.ubuntu.com on my DNS server. Testing this on other hosts in my network confirms that I'm unable to resolve that address as intended [02:12] but testing this with systemd-resolve on Ubuntu 18.04 shows that it's still able to resolve the address [02:12] I double checked the systemd-resolve settings and it's set to point to my DNS server [02:12] and clearing the cache has not alleviated the issue. [02:12] So, the only conclusion is that Ubuntu server is somehow ignoring my DNS configuration [02:15] BenderRodriguez: i'm not sure about this, but there may be better ways to disable this functionality than just to have it fail DNS lookups. see /etc/default/motd-news [02:20] tomreyn: I'm sure there's a way but I'm more concerned with the fact that Ubuntu seems to be able to resolve it on its own [02:20] tomreyn: take a look https://i.imgur.com/CKuisOS.png [02:21] BenderRodriguez: i understand this, but there's nothing i could tell about it, i doubt this is hardcoded, but have not reviewed the code. [02:22] tomreyn: I got a new KVM [02:22] just so that I can continue [02:22] alright, I'll see what linux has to say [02:22] networkctl shows configuring [02:23] hyperknot: see what i suggested above [02:24] tomreyn: i'm reading back but it's not obvious [02:24] your system log since the latest reboot can be viewed using journalctl -b [02:25] "systemctl status network.target" and the same for "network-online.target" may help understand the state of things [02:28] both of those are goot [02:28] good [02:29] it's something with ip address. I've disabled IPv6 for this server, maybe it made some kind of conflict after reboot [02:33] does 18 or 19 still use Compiz? [02:33] tomreyn: it was the ipv6 disable! [02:33] hyperknot: id so, the journal would probably tell, no? [02:33] *if [02:33] also, i upgraded from 16.04 (i think?). It still had the unity desktop. Is it safe to remove the Unity desktop as I am now using the Default 18.04 desktop [02:33] yes, I got it from there [02:33] hyperknot: oh nice, you found it. [02:34] somehow the new systemd version has a bug with grub's ipv6 disabling [02:34] maybe you disabled ipv6 in the wrong way. [02:34] I added ipv6.disable=1 to /etc/default/grub and it's been working well for many months [02:36] can anybody help me whenever i download video or pdf documents on a folder by firefox i dont get a clip of the document but document or video icons? [02:36] rodrigot44, you sure you actually downloaded? try youtube-dl to download a video and see that it actually works. [02:37] cfhowlett: no not yutube file shring sites [02:38] hyperknot: hmm yes i think ipv6.disable=1 would work [02:38] tomreyn: it worked perfectly, until it made this with the latest update [02:39] how can I view previous logs so that I can make a bug report about it? [02:39] hyperknot: omit -b or step through boots with -b -1 -b -2 etc. [02:40] Bashing-om: do you have any file manager skills? [02:41] rodrigot44: Depends on which file manager - what is the issue ? [02:41] Bashing-om: its firefox i meant sorry! [02:42] rodrigot44: Have not used FF in yers :( [02:42] tomreyn: and where should I open a bug report about it? [02:44] Bashing-om: crud figures [02:44] hyperknot: if you think it's a bug, and you checked this hasn't already been reported, run, on your server, ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME [02:44] Bashing-om: do you know any other browser similar to firefox but lightweigh? [02:46] hyperknot: this will gather information from your system needed to examine the issue further and post it to the bug trakcer (publicly). [02:47] ok [02:47] rodrigot44: those two don't go together well, "like firefox" "but light-weight" [02:49] tomreyn: hey i tried chrome and chromium but they dont have the top ment i dont like looking across the screen for functionality! [02:49] rodrigot44: maybe - not supported here - have a look at https://www.brow.sh/ [02:49] menu* [02:49] rodrigot44: light-weight is something like elinks :) [02:51] Bashing-om: nevermind not lightweight but a resiliant browser with the top menu [02:52] file view bookmarks about etc [02:53] rodrigot44: My GUI browser of choice is chromium. [02:54] Bashing-om: so you never got pissed with the placement of the meny accros the screen! [02:54] all browsers have such 'file view bookmaks etc' menu [02:54] OerHeks: nop not chrome or chromium [02:55] you have to look across the screen to access the menu [02:55] well, you said top penel, and that is where they are, in gnome === daniel is now known as Guest76591 [02:56] im not on gnome [02:56] bit i do not understand your actual question, about downloaded movies and pdf [02:56] anyone else noticed that cpu is running about +10C hotter with ubuntu 19.04 than with 18.10? [02:58] rodrigot44, again: an incomplete or damaged download can appear as a .pdf. try to download a video then run command file filename to see the properties. [02:58] cfhowlett: no its not damaged [02:59] cfhowlett: in chrome i get the clips of the pdf or video files [03:00] chrome or chromium is good [03:00] but it doesnt have the top menu [03:00] thumbnail clips [03:00] sorry if i caused confusion [03:01] ill repraise my question [03:01] its gonna be show [03:01] !enter | rodrigot44 [03:01] rodrigot44: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. [03:02] oh sorry [03:04] im having problems with firefox when i download a pdf or document it successfully downloads but firefox has a mind of its own and doesnt generate a thumbnail of the pdf or video file i download! [03:04] any good? [03:06] i think it is now understandable [03:07] tomreyn thank god [03:07] you may want to add your uubntu version, graphical desktop [03:08] no nautilus doesnt have those problems [03:08] so [03:08] * [03:13] Hello all. I have recently installed Ubuntu 19.04. From some days, I cannot launch nautilus after about 10-20 minutes of start up. It says "Failed to launch 'Downloads'. Timeout was reached". Someone here suggested me to purge and reinstall nautilus but that didn't help. [03:14] --Having a rough time sorting out a permissions issue in a ubuntu VM that I'm running inside of Unraid. I have an unraid share mounted by fstab, which seems to work, but files I create there are owned by root... with the group as my username [03:15] trying to figure out if this is an ubunu issue or an unraid issue.. without too much luck [03:16] LJSeinfeld what does your fstab mount line for that share look like [03:17] sazawal: do a file system check on the file system containing your Downloads directory - while it is not mounted. [03:17] !smart | also check your disks' health, sazawal [03:17] also check your disks' health, sazawal: smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [03:19] Cleverness https://pastebin.com/7dxd4YMU [03:19] tomreyn, I will do. [03:22] LJSeinfeld So I dont confused, is your goal to have this share mounted in the VM as a network drive that devices outside the network can access like a normal share? [03:23] no -- the goal is to let the ubuntu VM read write files on that share (which is part of my unraid server) [03:23] err read and write [03:24] do you have NFS permissions setup on that share in unraid? You could mount is via NFS instead [03:24] I did it earlier today on a recent install [03:24] I'm not totally sure [03:24] I can access the share via SMB or AFP [03:25] Go to the share settings in unraid and scroll down to NFS security settings, export yes, security private. Under rule add 192.168.1.1(sec=sys,rw) replacing the IP with whatever IP the VM has assigned to it [03:25] if you want to add more IPs just add a space after and repeat [03:26] let me look ...brb [03:27] I don't even see NFS as an option in thre.. [03:27] there [03:27] it should be between AFP and SMB security settings [03:27] go to settings and see under network services of NFS is enabled [03:27] nothing... do I need to stop the array to enable NFS [03:27] ? [03:28] no [03:28] just enabled [03:28] OK I see the options now [03:28] ok [03:29] just set the settings for it like I posted above [03:29] is it possible to put the ubuntu installer on a drive without wiping the entire thing? I want to keep the data on this and see if I can have the liveusb just use another partition [03:31] ok got that done [03:32] "192.168.11.21(sec=sys,rw)" [03:32] yea, without the quotes though [03:32] correct -- no quotes [03:32] LJSeinfeld https://pastebin.com/dptbvsmY [03:33] looking at your previous pastefin the /home path looked like is where you wanted the share mounted, just add your IP before the colon and the full share path after the colon [03:33] nshire: theoretically yes, but i'm not aware of a utility which does it. maybe mkusb could. you'd still need to make sure the boot loader there is aware of it. [03:34] which bootloader? the installer bootloader? [03:35] nshire: the boot loader on the drive you want to create the ubuntu installer on [03:35] either way, you'll want a backup of that data beforehand. [03:35] this is just a general purpose usb ssd btw. formatted exfat atm [03:35] Cleverness -- comment out my previous fstab entry, correct? [03:35] so no current bootlaoder [03:36] yes [03:36] You might also need to run sudo apt install nfs-kernel-server if you are missing it [03:36] er [03:37] scratch that, nfs-common not kernel server [03:37] but just mount it first [03:38] nshire: it'll be a lot easier to just create the installer out of it, then shring the partition, if needed, create another and create an exfat file system there. [03:38] I had a feeling that would be the case [03:38] *shrinK - wow, i must be getting tired [03:38] nothing shows up in ~/unraidmedia now... [03:39] I was hoping I could put several installers on one drive since its a 500gb ssd with 500MBps R/W [03:39] installing nfs common now [03:39] did you run mount in the command line after changing fstab? [03:39] just rebooted the vm [03:40] requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported [03:40] what VM is it [03:40] unbuntu server ... 18.04.2 LTS [03:41] nshire: there are some applications which try to cover this scenario, with more and less success. [03:41] any suggestions? [03:41] LJSeinfeld: sudo apt install nfs-common should work, im running that version as well [03:42] I think I messed up the ip... should be the ip of the unraid server... [03:42] yea [03:42] and I copied the IP of the VM... [03:42] lol [03:42] lol [03:42] my only idea would be to create another installer on one drive and DD it over after the end of the previous installer... but I don't know if that would work [03:43] yea just change it and run sudo mount -a [03:43] do hostnames work in there? [03:43] nshire: i don't really want to recommend them. also they're not in ubuntu. [03:43] mmm. [03:43] I havent tried, I just used the server IP since mine is static [03:43] nshire: if you have hybrid isos you could use this approach, i think it's actually the best: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive#Using_GRUB_and_loopback_devices [03:44] getting closer... access denied by server while mounting 192.168.11.149:/Media [03:44] it needs to be the full path in unraid, not just Media. [03:44] so if you go to shares and click the folder icon, top should say Index of /mnt/user/Media or something similar [03:44] like /mnt/user/Media [03:45] yes [03:45] so that whole thing goes after the colon [03:46] files appear... :) [03:46] let me restart everything and see what errors fly [03:46] see if it lets you create a folder to check that write permissions work [03:46] ok [03:47] owner and group looks good... [03:47] alright good, just restart the VM to make sure it automounts correctly [03:48] if it does you should be set [03:48] trying now... [03:48] sab and transmission are having issues writing there... (or were).. gonna test out [03:52] appears to be working -- Thanks :) [03:52] np [03:52] wonder why the other way was so problematic [03:53] sab would create files that were root:dave [03:53] weird [03:53] hi all..has anyone tried to load a proprietary driver, but when presented with the Mok manager on next boot, the video is not displayed so you can't see what you're doing? [03:55] LJSeinfeld: yea idk, switched from Windows few days ago and from what I learned googling that method is the simplest one I found, while staying secure. [03:56] I havent setup deluge on my server yet so I needed write access === dax changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 16.04, 18.04, 18.10, 19.04 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl [03:56] unraid is really cool, but there's a lot to learn there.. and I'm only about good enough to be dangerous with linux.. [03:56] deluge was a pain for me... figured Id give transmission-daemon a try [03:57] just backup your unraid settings. I broke networkconfig once when adding a 10g network card [03:57] although you can apparently bind deluge to an interface which would be nice [03:59] yea I havent done all that on my server. For me its just for storage/plex/airsonic [03:59] wagwan boys === AWAY is now known as Guest8894 [04:00] yikes [04:00] failed to verify [04:00] big yikes [04:02] Cleverness my (many years ago) solution to how to make sure certain things use a VPN was to put those things in a VM. There's a lot of cool docker containers out there--which would be 1 click installs... but I can't figure out if anyone has come up with an easy way to make sure the external traffic is handled properly [04:34] gotta bail -- thanks :) [04:53] Hello.Is there [04:53] ? === fly is now known as Guest10954 [04:53] Is there? [04:54] I cannot use the Thunderbird [04:57] hello, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on a new server. after the installation succeeds, when GNOME starts (as noted in the console) that tty freezes and no desktop comes up. in another console, I logged in and installed all updates. no improvement. installing the nvidia drivers (for the RTX 2060 card) via aptitude results in an avalanche of PKCS#7 warnings, and now the machine is thoroughly unusable --- the ttys fla [04:58] what could I be doing wrong here? I find it hard to believe I'm the first person that runs into this (although google found several reports of similar problems with the drivers). [05:01] qwebirc12473: for server issues, come join to #ubuntu-server please [05:02] oh, I see a fellow disco dingo user [05:02] what do you think of the new distro? [05:03] lotuspsychje: do you mean "ubuntu server"? by "server" I meant "workstation". what I described is for Ubuntu desktop [05:03] redwheelbarrow: ubuntu discussions goto #ubuntu-discuss please [05:04] qwebirc12473: well dont say server if you mean workstation next time ok [05:05] qwebirc12473: wich nvidia driver are you using? [05:07] the driver that aptitude suggested. it was 400+ something. I had trouble logging into the machine after installing it, between the PKCS#7 warnings and the unresponsive keyboard [05:07] qwebirc12473: for GTX cards and higher, we reccomend using the ubuntu graphics ppa [05:07] !nvidia | qwebirc12473 [05:07] qwebirc12473: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [05:08] qwebirc12473: a latest driver might be a good idea for you [05:09] ... reading through the material... what does 'ppa' mean? [05:10] qwebirc12473: ppa means an external repo with packages on that are not on the official ubuntu repos, normally we dont reccomend [05:10] qwebirc12473: but the graphics ppa is pretty safe to use as its maintained by trustable members [05:12] as I read through, I do remember from aptitude that I installed drivers by nvidia that were under a category of "binary only"... is this kind of trouble with nvidia common? [05:14] qwebirc12473: you can check the nvidia drivers available for your system with: ubuntu-drivers list [05:14] one way or the other it looks like I have to reinstall ubuntu because this one is hosed somehow... I'll get that going and use these new infos as I go... I should be back in a bit after I get it installed again [05:19] qwebirc12473: you dont have to reinstall ubuntu to install drivers [05:19] !nomodeset | qwebirc12473 try this [05:19] qwebirc12473 try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [05:20] interesting: the first time I missed the prompt to install, it went the route of trying ubuntu without installing. after a while, the system started misbehaving just like after installation: sluggish keyboard, cursor blinking irregularly, etc... [05:21] I do not know how I would make any changes to the system in its current state, keyboard unworkable, essentially unable to login, flashing ttys... awful. [05:21] let me get it to a workable state, then I suspect it will be easier to figure out what I did wrong. [05:23] off it goes, minimal install, no 3rd party drivers, download updates during installation. should be done in a few minutes. [05:24] qwebirc12473: verified the ISO integrity ,, and the copy to the install medium ? [05:24] no I did not, sec. [05:24] !md5sum ! qwebirc12473 [05:24] Bashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:27] md5 hash of the downloaded iso is good. I do not know about the thumb drive, it's in the machine right now. but I put the iso on it using dd, and it didn't complain. I'd imagine it's ok. [05:28] qwebirc12473: in the boot menu is "check disk for defects" , As a matter of course I always check the copy. [05:33] ok, it's rebooting now. [05:35] qwebirc12473: :) waiting. [05:35] purple screen, then black screen, then a few console entries: that /dev/sda4 is clean, two about starting the Snappy daemon, and finally that GNOME Display Manager started. then, a non-blinking cursor. [05:36] switching to tty2... oh, ouch, this is also flashing now. and the keyboard is unworkable. [05:37] I suspect that connecting things to the monitor (and thus to the video card) is a bad idea. let's check... [05:37] took off wireless mouse receiver: no change, flashing ttys [05:37] qwebirc12473: Try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1102256/stuck-at-started-gnome-display-manager-18-10 . [05:38] interesting, now the flashing stopped. [05:38] and the keyboard is workable again [05:38] this is so odd, this did not happen during installation [05:38] qwebirc12473: well, we wait and see what happens. [05:39] well ok at least now I should be able to login [05:40] ok, I copied custom.conf (cp -a to another file with the date tacked onto the filename), and disabled wayland. rebooting... [05:42] by the way, it looks like there is truth to that forum post I ran into that claimed that USB devices connected via the video card can cause trouble... although I sure wish I knew what was the problem exactly [05:42] anyway, here we go. purple screen, black screen, more console entries this time, but soon after GNOME display manager started the console freezes and the cursor does not blink anymore [05:43] tty2 is flashing with the contents of tty1... [05:43] ok, so I'm also disconnecting the keyboard from the monitor and into the machine [05:44] tty2 still flashing [05:47] still unusable, keyboard mostly unresponsive. so I also unplugged the entire monitor's USB connection [05:47] flashing stopped [05:47] ok now I can log in [05:52] it looks like the user gdm is logging in and out several times per second, as per auth.log... [05:52] I did not find a whole lot of interesting bits in gpu-manager.log, though I noted it found two cards on the system (the RTX 2060 and the discrete one) [05:53] how can I tell if gdm decided to output video on the onboard device rather than the nvidia card? there are no files in /var/log/gdm3 [05:53] qwebirc12473: nvidia as the rtx 2060 ? [05:54] I can't quite tell from looking at gpu-manager.log [05:55] lspci | grep -i vga found an NVIDIA and an ASPEED [05:55] qwebirc12473: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what X is up to. [05:56] no such file [05:57] qwebirc12473: .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log ? [05:57] there is only one relevant error message in kern.log: that nouveau probed the NVIDIA card and failed with error -12 [05:58] !nomodeset | qwebirc12473 [05:58] qwebirc12473: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [05:59] I will track that log file, then I'm looking at the kernel boot parameter [06:00] found the log file at /var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg [06:03] the Xorg log tries to load the "ast" module for the ASPEED video card several times, always fails [06:03] eventually it also tries to look at the NVIDIA card, and it reports it fails to open the DRM device because of error -19 [06:04] in the end, it can't open the framebuffer, and the Xorg server terminates and closes the log file [06:05] it seems to me this suggests missing drivers [06:05] qwebirc12473: Never encountered the ASPEED video card ; what shows ' sudo lshw -C dispaly '. Is a driver even seen ? [06:07] The "erase disk and install Ubuntu" option only wipes one disk right? [06:07] Whatever disk is selected [06:08] finds the ASPEED Technology, Inc. card, and the NVIDIA card (the RTX 2060, I presume) [06:08] qwebirc12473: yes . only the target. [06:08] the other qwebirc, Bashing-on. maybe I should change my nick. [06:08] Had to make sure, I've got 5 drives installed rn. Thanks. === qwebirc12473 is now known as blogten === qwebirc43335 is now known as person [06:09] so that ASPEED is whatever came on the Supermicro motherboard [06:10] after installing vnc i just get a black screen when i connect [06:13] <[rg]> anyone using youtube-dl? has not been working for me for a while now [06:14] held down shift to get to the grub menu, didn't happen, machine booted, and now it's stuck again after GNOME started. even though nothing is connected to the video card's USB, the ttys still flash and the keyboard is unresponsive [06:18] interesting, the flashing seems to stop after I press a few keys, I will have to check on this the next reboot (maybe it just takes time and it resolves itself) [06:22] blogten: EFI system it is the escape key the grub looks for. [06:23] indeed, I pressed ESC and it threw me into the grub shell (pressed one too many) [06:23] ok, the machine is booting again [06:24] much nicer, now the ubuntu logo showed up (first time I ever see it) [06:24] ok, so apparently now I can log in to the desktop [06:24] time to connect the mouse [06:25] neat, got to a desktop [06:26] ok, so nomodeset is improvement. now I'd really like to get some proper drivers... [06:28] blogten: Proprietary drivers: ' sudo apt update ; sidp apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . [06:28] sudo* [06:28] yep, and first I'm checking whether disabling wayland is still needed [06:28]