[00:23] If the installer doesn't offer me sda and I know the disk is good, is it likely there's a mainboard problem (SATA port etc.)? I haven't tried a different SATA cable yet. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [03:09] Hello is anyone in at the moment? [03:11] Yes. [03:12] Sort of. [03:12] I had a question [03:12] * ball waits for the question [03:13] When i click save session and shut down. I turn back on and only the web browser comes back open [03:13] Other apps do not re open upon restart with saved session [03:13] Is that normal? [03:13] * ball shrugs [03:14] Normal? [03:15] No idea. I don't run Xubuntu. I could test it on my daughter's PC. [03:15] I did actually try installing Xubuntu today but it didn't work. [03:15] (probably because of a hardware issue) [03:16] Oh it was on ubuntu studio they said ppl here might know [03:16] They're right. [03:16] Other people though. [03:17] I too do not use that feature, but you could possibly try clearing out old sessions and see if saving a new one helps. [03:18] silkairways: See https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dzZcRF7dWQ/ [03:18] We talked about it a bit after you left. [03:20] Trying it again now... [03:29] Okay cool thank you Eickmeyer [03:30] I will check that out [03:30] Is it safe to say the feature should be opening all the open programs upon reboot? [03:30] That I couldn't tell you. [03:31] I might try I may try Dingo instead. Perhaps that's what I did wrong. [03:32] Anybody know how i could find the sessions to clear? [03:33] Sorry ball im not sure what dingo is. Part of the xubuntu install? [03:34] I found it under setting sessions and startup [03:35] I think this will clear up my issues. I thought it worked autonomously but as with everything linux it has a bunch of awesome features and settings of its own [03:36] silkairways: dingo (disco dingo) was the codename for 18.04. [03:36] Eickmeyer: I thought that was 19.04? [03:36] Oh right! Disco dingo [03:36] That's what is installed on my hdd [03:36] ball: Typo. :P [03:36] Eickmeyer: Those happen. [03:37] Eickmeyer: ...just wanted to make sure I wasn't downloading something older than LTS [03:37] Usually we refer to the codename by the first part if being short. So, you'll hear Disco referred to more than Dingo. [03:37] Sorry. I'm not really a Linux person so I guessed. ;-) [03:38] I thin 19.04 is disco dingo 18.10 cosmic cuttlefish 18.4 bionic beaver [03:39] That's correct, silkairways. [03:39] I have bionic beaver on my hdd and disco dingo on my usb stick for my side business [03:40] I'm downloading Disco Dingo now [03:40] Didn't have any luck with Bionic Beaver. [03:41] Where are you trying to install? In a vm? On a hdd? [03:44] On a hard disk. [03:44] On an i3 desktop [03:45] ...for reasons ;-) [03:47] Oh i see [03:47] The installer boots but it can't see the hard disk to install to. [03:47] I have 18.04 on an embarrassingly old laptop with the processor is probably much worse [03:48] It have the machine new life and now it is my security cameras server [03:48] *gave [03:48] I hate this keyboard [03:49] IP cameras? [03:50] Perhaps I'm supposed to run some sort of partitioning tool prior to installation but ...I don't know [03:50] Yes ip cameras [03:52] Oh wow my processor actually comes out ahead vs i3 3217U on cpuboss.com [03:55] Not sure that's a reliable site. The folks in ##hardware would know. [04:05] It's not very important [04:06] Just surprised they even comparable [04:08] And for my saved session questions those programs i was looking for are not in the list available to save the session so i will try to just add them to startup [04:17] Gtg c y'all later [04:18] Goodnight silkairways [04:18] Goodnight ball [04:20] Goodnight everyone! [04:51] Well, I should have gone to bed but I didn't. [04:52] ...and 19.04 is doing the same thing that 18.04 did (not offering sda as an installation target) [04:56] ball, what you trying to do? [04:56] diogenes_: Install Xubuntu [04:56] (onto a blank disk) [04:57] do you have multiple hdds? [04:57] diogenes_: Not on this machine. [04:59] ball, new hdd? how old is it? [05:00] Tested HD. Under three years old. Passes SMART and other tests. [05:01] tried to start with a new partition table in gparted? [05:02] pick gpt for efi [05:02] msdos for mbr [05:03] diogenes_: I haven't seen that offered by the installer. I suppose I could boot to the live image and look for it there. [05:05] Shouldn't the installer be able to handle a blank disk though? [05:06] ball, try with gparted. [05:06] * ball lookds for it. [05:07] `lsblk` find it, I presume? [05:07] ? [05:13] diogenes_: That worked, though it called MBR "msdos" [05:13] ...which is stupid. [05:13] ...and didn't offer to create a partition in the installer. [05:14] ball, so everything's fine now? [05:15] Appears so. [05:15] We'll see whether it's bootable once the installation completes. [05:16] Looks like it'll take a while to install. I'll test it in the morning before I go to work, hopefully. [05:17] diogenes_: I appreciate the help. Thanks! [05:17] ball, you're welcome. [05:20] Oh it's done! That was quick. [05:23] ...and it boots. [05:24] ...with that, I'm off to bed. :-) [05:34] gparted unmounts stuff, not sure if ubiquity does but I thought so. [08:31] !xubuntu [08:31] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at https://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels [08:31] !16.04 [08:31] Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) was the 24th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes [11:14] Operating 18.04 from cd operated at 1024x748 on my Amilo-Pro V2030, so I downloaded it becayse Mint only worked at 640x480. But downloaded Xubunto also only worked at 640x480! Setting shows no other resolution. How do I get the downloaded version to use higher resolution like the CD version does? [11:15] xubuntu73w: Click on the apps menu, type in "display" and select it, then choose a higher resolution [11:27] Operating 18.04 from cd works on my Amilo-Pro v2030 at 1024x748 resolution. But when I downloaded it, it ran at 640x480 and the App/Display/Settings shows no other option. How do I get the downloaded version to have the same resolution as the CD version? === Spass_laptop_ is now known as Spass_laptop [14:18] can anyone help me with setting properties using xfconf-query on xubuntu 18.04.2? [14:21] xubuntu56w, what do you want to change? did you see this wiki? https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfconf/xfconf-query [14:24] i want to change the properties lid-action-on-battery and lid-action-on-ac, i did see the wiki and it did not help. whenever i run the command it says that the property does not exist on the channel [14:27] you mean "xfce4-power-manager" channel? I don't see those properties on my machine in that channel, so if you need you may add them [14:28] create them [14:30] that's what i initially thought. i issued "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/lid-action-on-ac -n -t int -s 1" yet the property remains unchanged [14:32] try "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /lid-action-on-ac -n -t bool -s true" [14:32] no, sorry [14:32] you need int for that [14:32] so "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /lid-action-on-ac -n -t int -s 1" [14:33] I think that "/xfce4-power-manager/" after -p was unnecessary in your command [14:36] well, to be sure I'm not really sure what type do you need for that property, where did you get info about adding that property? [14:37] (maybe it shows only on laptops, that's why I don't see it on my PC) [14:37] i ran xfconf-query in monitor mode and fiddled around with the settings and that's what i got if that's what you're asking [14:39] okay, i tried "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /lid-action-on-ac -n -t int -s 1" and the default action for closing the lid on ac is still "lock screen" and not "suspend" [14:41] does it change when you change 1 to 2? with this "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /lid-action-on-ac -s 2" [14:41] it does not [14:42] I'll take a look at that on my laptop, one moment [14:42] it does work if i manually open the power manager, change the settings there and then enter "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/lid-action-on-ac -s 1" into the terminal [14:49] it works on my laptop "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/lid-action-on-ac -s 3" [14:49] I can change it to 0. 1 or 3 (2 is blank on my laptop) [14:49] did you manually change the settings through xfce4-power-manager gui before? [14:49] and it makes change in GUI, but I need to reopne the settings window to see the changes [14:51] i noticed that changing the settings using the terminal does work, but you need to change them using the gui first [14:51] I've changed for AC in GUI, because the property wasn't present before [14:51] yeah, same observation [14:51] property wasn't there until I've changed in GUI to some other option, that created the property [14:52] and if you create it manually it doesn't do anything [14:52] and now I can see the property and change to whatever I want using xfconf-query (or in GUI) [14:52] ok, will try to delete it and create without GUI [14:55] yeah, when I created it using xfconf-query the property was added, but changes weren't visible in GUI [14:55] weird [14:56] and after one change in GUI it starts working [14:58] so i guess it's a bug [14:59] if you used my incorrect command I suggested on the beginning, you can delete that property using "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /lid-action-on-ac -r -R" [15:00] yeah, bug or some behaviour I don't really understand, maybe xfce devs would help with explaining that [15:01] should i file a bug report then? [15:19] not sure, but it would not hurt, maybe here? https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?component=Xfconf-query&list_id=47041&product=Xfconf&resolution=--- [15:20] or maybe it's strictly a Xfce Power Manager thing... another option is asking on #xfce-dev I suppose [15:21] the bugzilla already has a bug report that is similar in behavior to what i'm experiencing [17:51] Hi, I have my desktop connected to a 4K TV via HDMI as my main monitor. I set the desktop to 1080p. But upon Closing/opening the television on the next day or a few hours later it is as if the display is "redetected" and resolution is set to 4k. What can I do to make it stick to 1080p? If I close the television and open it a few minutes later it is still at 1080p. [18:16] I lost the sound [18:17] aplay -l said there is no card [19:25] Hey guys