| wxl | you don't SKIP it using memory XD | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| wxl | you might as well skip it using power | 00:00 |
| wxl | how much total RAM you have? | 00:00 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> 3536 mb | 00:01 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> 2536 mb | 00:01 |
| wxl | um | 00:02 |
| wxl | make up your mind? | 00:02 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> 2536 mb | 00:02 |
| wxl | so that's plenty to boot up the system and get it running, use different apps | 00:03 |
| wxl | so what are you doing that's consuming so much memory? have you looked at the task manager? | 00:03 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> how do I look at task manager when I cant boot Lubuntu? | 00:04 |
| wxl | you didn't say that | 00:04 |
| wxl | so how do you know it's a memory issue? | 00:04 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> a errow message when trying to boot Lubuntu | 00:05 |
| wxl | what specific error message? | 00:05 |
| wxl | like the EXACT wording | 00:06 |
| wxl | screenshot it if you have to | 00:06 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> thats going to be hard to do the computer im trying to get working with Lumbuntu is a old dell I get from a guy not the computer I talking to you on | 00:11 |
| wxl | do you have a phone? | 00:12 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> yes I can take a pic if I can get the errow message up | 00:12 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> great now Im geting a blinking curser in corner | 00:14 |
| wxl | so let's back up a minute here | 00:14 |
| wxl | 1. did you check the hashes on the ISO? | 00:14 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> yes | 00:15 |
| wxl | 2. when you booted, at the GRUB screen, did you select "check disc for defects?" | 00:15 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> i have installed from this iso before to a old hp Iget | 00:15 |
| wxl | ^^ with the installation media | 00:15 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> yes | 00:15 |
| wxl | that, sadly, doesn't mean anything | 00:15 |
| wxl | you could have one single bit of information that is corrupted and it could lead to all sorts of weird errors in one case where in another case it works fine | 00:16 |
| wxl | but if you did the check, you're fine | 00:16 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> now im getting a corrupted low memmery | 00:16 |
| wxl | the "bad memory" thing makes me wonder if the hardware isn't defective | 00:16 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> memory | 00:16 |
| wxl | have you tried using the "memcheck" option in the GRUB menu of the installer? | 00:16 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> yes | 00:16 |
| wxl | and the memory wasn't defective at all? | 00:17 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> ran a mem test last night about 4 times | 00:17 |
| wxl | huh i've never seen this before | 00:18 |
| wxl | what specific machine is this? | 00:18 |
| wxl | can you boot to the installer and run `dmidecode` and pastebin that somewhere? | 00:18 |
| wxl | oh hold on | 00:19 |
| wxl | https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/288337 | 00:19 |
| wxl | long story short: your BIOS is trying to use memory it shouldn't be | 00:21 |
| wxl | it should boot, though | 00:21 |
| wxl | that said the error is probably a red herring | 00:22 |
| wxl | i'd look into a reinstall | 00:22 |
| wxl | maybe see if you can upgrade the bios | 00:22 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> sadly its upgrade as high as it goes | 00:23 |
| wxl | you know there's something i tell people all the time | 00:24 |
| wxl | linux can do a lot of things | 00:24 |
| wxl | but it can't fix broken XD | 00:24 |
| wxl | sorry i couldn't be of more help :( | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | switching to uefi booting might work around it. but i assume this is so old it doesn't support uefi? | 00:27 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> right will try a reinstall and see you help a lot. i have like 6 other puters so no big deal | 00:29 |
| tomreyn | reinstalling ubuntu wont help with a buggy bios, but i didn't follow the whole chat, maybe there was something else. | 00:30 |
| tomreyn | older graphics cards may also do funny things such as corrupting low memory. i've seen some of a company whose name starts with n and ends in vidia do that. | 00:33 |
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| lubot | <Login_01> @wxl [<wxl> @Login_01 that's what causes the icons to stick in place], Here I am. I write from Italy, and in previous messages from me it was already night. … As soon as I have the opportunity to test for the problem of the icons I will let you know. … For the second problem I will send you a photo so that you understand better. | 07:24 |
| lubot | <Login_01> @lubuntu_bot Hy! | 10:35 |
| lubot | <A> I no longer see the messages in this chat. You too? | 12:58 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> I can see chat text | 12:59 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> 😜 | 12:59 |
| lubot | <A> OK 😁 | 13:00 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> Is the there a way to get lubuntu not to use low memory | 14:15 |
| lubot | . . was added by: . . | 14:15 |
| lubot | <. .> Hello friends, I am a newcomer in the world of Linux. Can you help me to get answers for simple questions? … I am going to install a lightweight Lubuntu 19.04, and want to make it as quick as possible, so I want know: … 1) how to disable all logs. 2) how to make autologin. … I just don't want to read much in internet. I will be grat | 14:23 |
| lubot | eful for the instructions. | 14:23 |
| lubot | A was added by: A | 14:38 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> I know that when you install Lubuntu there is a option to turn off logining in with password thinks it a bottom of page where you do all the nameing stuff | 14:46 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> as for disable logs there a setting to do that but why do you wont to logs help a lot trying to run down a bug | 14:48 |
| lubot | <. .> to minimize read/write on HDD, so that OS may be run with minimal footprint. | 14:51 |
| wex | hi all | 14:56 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wex wimpy [2536 mb], 2536? Seems an od configuration for ram. What is it? Like 2gb+512mb? But shouldn't the usable amount be less than 2500mb in that case? | 15:28 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> I know but thats what bios sayed | 15:47 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> as buggy as this thing is who know it should be 1536 mb | 15:49 |
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| Guest63693 | y orwell.freenode.net | 17:00 |
| wxl | @Login_01: if you're still around make sure to send that screenshot as a *link* rather than just pasting it in Telegram. our bridge has a bug i need to fix. maybe i'll try to get on that this morning. | 17:04 |
| wxl | and wex, i can't @ you because you don't have a username. but did you read what i sent you? | 17:04 |
| wxl | @.. did you figure out autologin? | 17:04 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> Lol I have moved on how I'm trying to install old copy of windows xp | 17:06 |
| wxl | @.. for the vast majority of logs, rsyslog does all the work. you can disable it with `sudo systemctl disable rsyslog.service` but, i, too, think that's really silly | 17:06 |
| wxl | oh jeez. don't hook it up to the internet. | 17:07 |
| lubot | <. .> About autologin I asking beforehand, am going to install Lubuntu after 2 days. | 17:07 |
| wxl | the installer will give you the option | 17:08 |
| lubot | <wex wimpy> lol not sure I can with xp its been so long since the last time I messed with it | 17:09 |
| wxl | what you CAN do with XP is become a botnet node | 17:10 |
| wxl | without even trying! | 17:10 |
| lubot | <. .> @wxl [<wxl> @.. for the vast majority of logs, rsyslog does all the work. you can disa …], thank you. | 17:11 |
| lubot | <. .> guys, I am a novice, my another silly question: is it possible homehow to manage swapping? … For example in Windows I have disabled a "pagefile", bacause I have a lot of RAM, and OS works quickly. How is it in Linux, namely Lubuntu? | 17:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> there is a configuration of swappiness | 17:49 |
| wxl | if there's nothing displayed by `swapon -s`, you don't have swap | 17:49 |
| wxl | you can disable all swaps with `swapoff -a` | 17:49 |
| lubot | <. .> say, is it worth to do in Linux? | 17:49 |
| wxl | generally swaps are automatically mounted in /etc/fstab, so if you have swaps you want to remove, you can remove the relevant lines and either delete the swapfile or reuse the partition | 17:50 |
| wxl | same logic applies in general to linux as it does to windows or any other os | 17:50 |
| lubot | <. .> thanks, I will experiment with it. | 17:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl: remember that latest lubuntu doesn't use swap partition as default, it uses a file. | 18:04 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl everything i said still applies :0 | 18:04 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> because I don't have it wxl | 18:05 |
| lubot | <. .> @HMollerCl [wxl: remember that latest lubuntu doesn't use swap partition as default, it uses …], does `swapoff -a`will disable it? | 18:07 |
| wxl | `swapoff -a` will disable ALL swaps, regardless of their form | 18:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> swapoff [options] [<spec>] … Disable devices and files for paging and swapping. | 18:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> from swapoff —help | 18:09 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @PLYR 0 [<reply to image>], Road Rash! :P | 18:27 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> We have the feature to not create any swap with Calamares. We have https://phab.lubuntu.me/T22 for more details | 18:36 |
| lubot | <. .> About 'atime' I found how to disable: to add <noatime,nodiratime> into /etc/fstab. … Is it possible to disable ctime (change time) ? | 19:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> see `man mount` | 20:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> there is no `noctime` directive in options | 20:18 |
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