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dufluTrevinho, where in the world are you at the moment?05:32
dufluTrevinho[3v1n0], ^05:33
* zyga opened https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues/483 06:01
gitbotGNOME issue 483 in gdm "Ubuntu 19.04 login screen never appears when using the Nvidia driver" [Opened]06:01
dufluThanks06:03
duflu... zyga06:03
didrocksgood morning06:20
jibelHi didrocks06:20
didrockssalut jibel06:21
dufluMorning didrocks and jibel06:30
duflubiab06:30
didrockshey duflu06:36
pieqzyga, I didn't witness this when testing 19.04, but I was using laptops with SSDs...06:37
zygapieq: yeah, I bet this is a race and using a hdd is relevant06:37
pieqzyga, this doesn't happen with open source drivers (nouveau) instead of nvidia's?06:38
zygaI did not check06:38
zygamy whole point of using the hardware and nvidia is to work with snapping proprietary driver06:39
zygaI can check if that is someone wants to try to debug the core issue06:39
jibelOOC, are you reproducing this bug with the snapped version of the driver or the deb?06:47
jibelzyga, ^06:47
zygajibel: with the deb06:48
jibelk06:48
zygajibel: the snap is not a factor in this, it happened straight out of vanilla install06:48
jibelyeah, was just curious06:51
jibelpieq, would you have a workstation with an nvidia graphics card on which you could run lspci -n and paste the output?06:52
jibeleg not a laptop with intel+nvidia06:52
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:54
Trevinhoduflu: Oaxaca, Mexico06:55
oSoMoNhey duflu, Trevinho06:56
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pieqjibel, nothing around at the moment, let me check07:01
oSoMoNsalut pieq, jibel07:03
jibelpieq, it is not urgent, I'd like to know the subclass of the card if it's 300 or 30207:03
jibelhi oSoMoN07:04
pieqsalut oSoMoN07:04
jibels/hi/bonjour/ :)07:04
pieqjibel, this is what I get on a workstation with Nvidia GV100 GPU: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jf4SQfjqRJ/07:08
jibelpieq, thanks07:10
pieqbut I don't see the subclass (I took this out of a Checkbox session lspci attachment, not sure if it's -n)07:10
pieq(it's not)07:10
pieq:D07:10
jibelpieq, it's fine, it's 030007:10
didrockssalut oSoMoN07:16
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:19
GunnarHjLaney: Thanks for sponsoring g-c-c!07:21
GunnarHjLaney: Yes, the current handling of modifiers isn't ideal, even if affected labels are distinguishable in Ubuntu. Any thoughts on approach/hack as regards translations of such strings? I suppose it should better be done upstream if at all.07:21
seb128good morning desktopers07:23
oSoMoNsalut seb12807:23
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ?07:23
oSoMoNoui, et toi?07:23
didrockssalut seb12807:25
seb128oSoMoN, en forme :)07:25
seb128lut didrocks07:25
GunnarHjGood morning all!07:26
dufluMorning oSoMoN, seb128, GunnarHj07:27
* duflu checks07:28
dufluAnd good morning Trevinho07:28
seb128trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3704 ... can we just sync https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/news/20190425T130319Z.html instead?07:37
dufluHe's in Mexico so I assume might almost be bed time :)07:38
Trevinhoit is :)07:38
Trevinhoseb128: yes, now that it's released07:38
Trevinhosyncing that is fine07:38
Trevinhofor sru might still apply the other one though07:38
seb128right07:38
seb128thx trevinho07:39
seb128and good night :)07:39
* Trevinho hides in bed :)07:39
Trevinhothanks07:39
Trevinhoah, someone could publish the shell stacks though07:39
seb128I will let Laney review those :)07:40
seb128andyrock, jamesh, tkamppeter, you need to post your weekly summary on the hub07:43
didrocksI think we should go back to everyone posting on Monday07:46
didrocksseems like people are slowly starting to post on Tuesday again07:47
seb128I don't think we ever moved from posting on monday?07:49
didrockswell, I mean encourage people to do it again07:49
seb128it's just post release and it was a week with holidays/long w.e for some etc07:49
seb128travelling for others as well07:49
seb128but yeah, that's why I pinged today, trying to remind people to go back on schedule :)07:50
seb128(me included :p)07:50
didrockslooks like it :p07:50
didrocksI should have pinged you like the only time in a year I didn't post on Monday :p07:51
* didrocks writes to check every Tuesday morning now ;)07:51
seb128haha, fair enough :)07:51
Laneyhi there08:02
marcustomlinsongood morning08:02
oSoMoNhello Laney, marcustomlinson08:02
didrockshey Laney, marcustomlinson08:02
seb128hey Laney marcustomlinson, how are you today?08:03
marcustomlinsonPretty good :) oSoMoN sponsored my first upload to archive yesterday08:04
seb128congrats! :)08:04
Laneyhey oSoMoN didrocks seb128 marcustomlinson08:21
Laneydoing alright, nice climbing session yesterday08:21
Laneyhow are you?!?!?!08:21
seb128I'm good!08:23
seb128didn't do anything fancy though, I wish I could play tennis this week but it's not likely, hopefully next08:24
Laneysomeone sick?08:26
seb128no, just in north of France this week (gf familly) and I don't have a club or someone to play with here...08:28
Laneyohhh08:29
dufluMorning Laney08:34
dufluand morning willcooke08:34
willcookehihi08:35
willcookemarcustomlinson, good news!  You should now be a member of the Canonical group in Trello08:35
willcookemad times ahead08:35
marcustomlinsonindeed I am :)08:36
marcustomlinsonweird though that kenvandine and jamesh are not :P08:36
Laneyplease escort them off the premises08:37
* Laney nods gravely towards duflu 08:37
duflugravely?08:38
LaneyIt was that or sagely08:38
Laneyand I did briefly consider savagely but it's too early for that08:38
Laneysolemnly would also work, but I'll save that treat for another day08:38
Laneyvigorously after I've had an espresso08:39
Laneyetc08:39
dufluCareful with your neck08:39
dufluPresumably you only have one08:39
* duflu waves instead08:40
Laneyzyga: want to try something? (maybe in #gdm / gimpnet so that upstream can see?)08:44
zygaLaney: hold on, let me join that network08:44
Laneythx08:45
zygaLaney: I'm there08:47
andyrockgood morning!09:42
Laney😭 hi andyrock 😭09:43
andyrock😭09:44
seb128hey andyrock09:51
* seb128 hugs andyrock09:51
* andyrock hugs the desktop team and all the ubuntu friends09:52
dufluMorning andyrock10:01
dufluπŸ€—10:01
dufluThe hug emoji is somewhat confusing10:02
duflu😭10:02
seb128duflu, do you have a special way to triage/keep track of gnome-shell bugs that might be worth a SRU to bionic? e.g bug #182554710:11
ubot5`bug 1825547 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "incorrect vpn status" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182554710:11
dufluseb128, no I wait for a bionic bug report unless it is critical10:11
dufluIf there are none then there may be a reason for that you have overlooked10:12
dufluso targeting an SRU might not be needed10:12
seb128inf act that is fixed in the SRU that recently landed10:13
tkamppeterseb128, weekly summary is posted now.10:29
seb128tkamppeter, thx, please try to remember to post on monday (or earlier)10:30
tkamppeterseb128, I have all the time done it "before the meeting", when is the typical reading time by you or whover chairs the meeting?10:43
seb128tkamppeter, no, we said (in Malta or was it the one before?) that they need to posted by monday evening so team members in australia or new zealand can read them before the meeting and post comments/questions if they have some11:32
seb128tkamppeter, if you post them on 10am european time on tuesday it's like 9pm for Robert and he hasn't a chance to comment before the meeting11:33
seb128since he's already done with work for the day11:33
seb128xnox, thx for that community hub e-cycle plans post, it's useful!11:39
xnoxseb128, well, also awaiting for my ubuntu-devel-announce post to be published to the mailing list11:39
xnoxseb128, as one wise man once said (willcooke) we get better engagement with emojis!11:40
seb128:-)11:40
willcooke:D11:40
didrocks️ golang updated to 1.12. \o/11:41
didrocksphew, having 1.10 in the archive starts to be annoying11:41
didrocks(/me secretly hope 1.13 is released before FF and we can update to it)11:41
xnoxdidrocks, pester mwhudson about that =)12:00
didrocksxnox: I'll gladly do it :)12:01
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willcookebah13:29
willcookeas I knew would happen, the calendar didnt remind me and so now I am unprepared for this meeting.13:29
* willcooke wings it13:29
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-04-3013:30
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didrockshey13:30
Trevinhohello13:30
willcookeRoll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:30
seb128hey13:30
andyrocko/13:31
kenvandineo/13:31
marcustomlinson\o13:31
willcookeBad times:  Last meeting with andyrock 😭13:31
* kenvandine cries13:32
Trevinho😭😭😭😭😭13:32
andyrock😭13:32
willcookeBye andyrock, we will all miss you.  We got you this cake:  πŸŽ‚13:32
kenvandinecake!13:32
andyrockI'll miss you all too :D13:32
willcookeand we all clubbed together and bought you a helicopter:  πŸš13:32
marcustomlinsonI already missed you andyrock13:33
seb128:(13:33
oSoMoNcome back soon!13:33
willcookeGood times:  My first meeting with marcustomlinson πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€13:33
Trevinhono the helicopter is what he has to buy us...13:33
willcooke:d13:33
willcookeD13:33
didrockswe are going to miss you andyrock13:33
willcookeok, lets whizz through the bugs13:34
willcookeI have some AOB which might be interesting13:34
willcooke#topic Bionic bugs13:35
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willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:35
willcookeincoming is clear13:35
seb128willcooke, there is one listed here13:35
willcookeoh boy13:35
willcookethanks seb12813:36
seb128:)13:36
seb128looks like it's assigned to Trevinho/being handled, so probably just a matter of untagging13:36
willcookedonr13:36
willcookee13:36
Trevinhoyeah added to know weather was the case to consider is rls13:36
willcookefor tracking there is this one:13:36
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnfs/+bug/174659813:36
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[MIR] libnfs" [High,In progress]13:36
willcookeTrevinho, +1, its important as it can lock up the shell, useful to fix13:37
willcookeplus andyrock did all hard work13:37
willcooke;)13:37
seb128willcooke, I've assigned the libnfs one to Eric who was driving that conversation13:37
willcookeah thx13:37
willcooke#topic Cosmic Bugs13:38
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willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:38
willcookeReally is clear (even ctrl-f desktop this time)13:38
seb128:)13:38
willcookeThere's this one which is unassigned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/saaj/+bug/181413313:39
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1814133 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Cosmic) "update to openjdk 11 in 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,New]13:39
willcookewhich is probably in our list for LO13:39
willcookeand that looks like its in hand/done13:39
oSoMoNyeah, the LO part is done13:40
willcookeOh, we have libnfs and fonts-liberation213:40
willcookeseb128 - do I remember you were looking at the nfsone?13:40
oSoMoNnot sure where the fonts-liberation task comes from…13:41
oSoMoNI'll ask do_ko after the meeting13:41
willcookethx13:41
willcookeand then there's this one:13:42
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/182206213:42
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1822062 in cups (Ubuntu Eoan) "Race condition on boot between cups and sssd" [Medium,In progress]13:42
willcookewhich looks like a cups issue?13:42
seb128willcooke, that one was also in the bionic report13:42
seb128it looks like it's being handled by the sustain team already13:42
seb128I would just assign all the lines to Victor13:42
seb128or Eric13:43
willcookeok, I will do that after the meeting13:43
seb128willcooke, nfs is fix commited or are you talking about another line?13:43
seb128(we skip over those usually since that's = handled already)13:43
tkamppeterThis one is already assigned to Victor.13:43
willcookeI was talking about the Eric one13:43
willcookemy bad13:43
willcookeoki, so that all looks ok then13:43
willcooke#topic Disco Bugs13:43
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seb128the libnfs one is the same as bionic, right13:43
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:44
willcookeAll already assigned.  Except that we should reassign the tracker-miners one probably13:44
seb128we need to +1/-1 serie nominations though13:45
tdaitxwillcooke: sorry to intrude, 1814133 is a bug that we used to track the openjdk-11 transition to bionic, please don't reuse it, create a new bug instead, thanks ;-)13:45
andyrockthe fix is already upstream13:45
andyrockfor tracker-miners13:45
seb128I vote +1 for the tracker one13:45
seb128it's fine to have andy assigned, he did the work, I can do the uploading13:45
andyrockiirc I linked the fix in the bug report13:45
willcookeok13:45
willcookenext:13:46
andyrockseb128: let me know if you need some help with that, the fix targeted tracker 2.2 but it should apply without problems in 2.1.813:46
seb128bug #1823464 looks like it just needs untagging since it got accepted in a previous meeting13:46
ubot5`bug 1823464 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Disco) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in disco (s390x only)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182346413:46
willcookedone13:46
seb128willcooke, we still didn't review the list to accept/reject the items13:46
seb128the list is still going to be in that state next week if we don't do that...13:47
willcookethat's what we're doing now?13:47
seb128incoming is about ack/nack13:47
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/181371613:47
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1813716 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_x11_display_get_xdisplay β†’ detach_pixmap β†’ meta_surface_actor_x11_dispose β†’ g_object_unref β†’ ObjectInstance β†’ β†’ release_native_object" [High,In progress]13:47
Trevinhocompositore crash is instead something happening in restart but is our top in errors.u.c. However not upstreamed yet. But got a +1 review so far.13:47
seb128ah, I though your next was another item13:47
willcooke+1 for that shell crash13:47
seb128+1 for rls13:47
willcookemotion carried13:48
willcooke+1 for ee too then13:49
seb128(still about bug #1823464, kenvandine can you talk to jamesh about it, he seems to have been ignoring him, I wouldn't be surprised he overlooked the bug assignement/launchpad email)13:49
ubot5`bug 1823464 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Disco) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in disco (s390x only)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182346413:49
seb128willcooke, +113:49
kenvandinei emailed him about it and never heard back13:49
kenvandineit's on my list for our 1:1 this week13:49
LaneyTrevinho: get that merged now, we can include it in this upload I am doing atm13:50
seb128kenvandine, thx13:50
willcookenext: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/182693313:50
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1826933 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes in meta_monitor_mode_get_resolution -> calculate_scale -> meta_monitor_calculate_mode_scale derive_calculated_global_scale -> meta_monitor_manager_rebuild_logical_monitors_derived" [Medium,In progress]13:50
willcookeNot sure how that manifests itself13:50
TrevinhoLaney: no maintainer ack yet, I expect can involve some more time then13:51
Laneyask13:51
Laney(you got a comment from Carlos)13:51
willcookeTrevinho, re: #1826933 are you +1 on rls tagging that?  Is it a big deal?13:52
willcookeshell crash, sounds like it is13:52
willcookeanyone got any feelings about it?13:53
willcooke+1 from me13:53
seb128+1, sounds like worth fixing13:53
Laneyit's going to be in the upload13:53
Laneyjust nominate it, that is needed for the SRU anyway13:54
* Laney wouldn't have tagged that one13:54
Trevinhowillcooke: yes, I've already proposed the fix in the merge Laney is handling13:54
willcookek, thx13:54
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:55
willcookeDD tracking is actually all up to date, the report is just a little old13:55
seb128willcooke, bug #1826182 has no assignee for disco?13:56
willcooke#topic Eoan bugs13:56
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ubot5`bug 1826182 in mutter (Ubuntu Eoan) "[DisplayLink][fixed upstream] GNOME libmutter crash on hotplugging a dock with a monitor" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182618213:56
willcookeTrevinho, can you take that one>? ^13:56
Trevinhowillcooke: already taken too13:57
seb128trevinho, no you didn't, or launchpad disagreed13:57
willcookehe did now13:57
seb128ah, now13:57
willcookesince I updated it13:57
willcooke:)13:57
seb128when he said so it was still not commited :;p13:57
seb128thx13:57
Trevinhoseb128: I meant it's in the upload IIRC.13:57
willcookeLooks like the ee reports are missing, anyone know who I should ask to fix that?13:57
seb128let me ask bdmurray13:58
Trevinhowillcooke: I was about asking the same13:58
willcookethanks seb12813:58
willcookeIs there another way to see them easily?13:58
willcookethem = bugs13:58
jibellaunchpad advanced search13:58
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=rls-ee-incoming13:58
Trevinhoalso andyrock had an issue when they were added to incoming but... (can't remember all the conditions)13:59
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/179879013:59
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1798790 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu login screen never appears when using the Nvidia driver (and setting WaylandEnable=false fixes it)" [High,Confirmed]13:59
andyrockif the bug if fix-released for every target and you tag rls-xx-incoming13:59
andyrockthe bug will not be added to the list13:59
seb128willcooke, +1 to accept, Laney redirected zyga to upstream earlier14:00
andyrockI think this would be useful to target as rls-bug something we want to sru14:00
Laneydunno that the first follows on from the second14:00
willcookeSeems like an important one to fix, so I'd be +114:01
didrocksI need to find if that's the same bug I raised a cycle ago upstream14:01
willcookeso do we pass that one for now?14:02
seb128I vote +1 to nominate it14:02
seb128dunno about others14:02
didrocksno, that was a different bug14:02
seb128it seems an important issue, especially as we get closer from the next LTS14:02
didrocks+1 for me14:02
willcookeok, done14:02
seb128Laney, you hinted zyga toward upstream, can you maybe own it? you also have some gdm experience14:02
Laneyshrug14:03
seb128the other one would probably be Trevinho who is quite loaded with other bugs atm14:03
Laneyguess so14:03
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/+bug/144037214:03
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1440372 in duplicity (Ubuntu) "please port duplicity to Python3" [Medium,In progress]14:03
seb128sorry...14:03
seb128thx!14:03
seb128willcooke, +1 to accept, I can own it14:03
LaneyI was helping to triage, don't like that this leads to owning in the end14:03
Laneybut maybe it makes separate sense14:03
seb128Laney, I was going to ask you anyway, I put that on my notes yesterday14:03
seb128so don't feel like the triaging help is what hinted the outcome14:03
seb128I think we have you and, Trevinho basically who understand gdm's code atm14:04
seb128and Trevinho is too busy14:04
* Laney isn't busy?14:04
seb128too14:04
Laneyanyway, seems fine14:04
seb128well, I try to balance14:04
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/180138314:04
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1801383 in linux (Ubuntu) "the WifiSyslog apport hook (used in firefox/tb) includes SSID informations" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:04
seb128thx14:04
willcookeoSoMoN, you did the ffox part for that ^14:04
oSoMoNthat one is for me14:04
willcookefor tbird too?14:05
oSoMoNyes14:05
seb128thxc oSoMoN14:05
willcookethx14:05
willcookeok, afaict thats it for us14:05
jibelthere is bug 1826844 I'd like to have fixed14:06
ubot5`bug 1826844 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-drivers-* are not on the ISO" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182684414:06
jibelit's a matter of adding them to ship-live but I'd like to sure there is no issue with the license14:06
willcookejibel, you want me to work on the licensing question?14:06
jibelwillcooke, if you want, sure14:07
seb128trello card material rather than rls bug?14:07
jibelthey would be on the pool of the iso not in the squashfs14:07
jibelk, I'll add a card too14:07
willcookeyeah, +1 for trello14:07
willcookeand to untag14:07
jibelcan I have both14:07
jibel? :)14:07
jibelI love bugs14:08
willcookeyou can, but should you?14:08
willcookeall Im talking about here is untagging it from e14:08
willcookethe bug can and should still exist14:08
jibeltarget it14:08
seb128well we don't even know if it's valid14:08
seb128until we resolve the license question14:08
willcookenot sure about this one, doesnt seem like a release blocker to me14:09
willcookeit's been broken for ages14:09
willcookeI totally think we should fix it though14:09
seb128I don't know enough to understand how new the issue is and if it's a regression and when it started14:10
seb128yeah, same14:10
Laneynot everything has to be a release bug14:10
LaneyNEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT14:10
seb128I would vote -1 for rls14:10
willcookethat ^14:10
seb128assign + trello14:10
seb128imho14:10
willcookeI'm taking it14:10
willcookeRight, I propose that's the end of the bugs14:10
willcookeseb128, did I miss anything14:11
seb128not that I can see14:11
willcookeok14:11
willcookethx14:11
willcooke#topic AOB14:11
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willcookeI have a topic14:11
willcookeMore bugs!!!14:11
seb128btw bdmurray replied, he's doing the changes to get the rls-ee reports14:11
willcookewoot14:11
seb128:)14:11
seb128more bugs? :-14:12
seb128:-(14:12
willcookeSo, off the back of the OEM meetings last week we will have some more bugs coming our way via the OEM team14:12
willcookeat the moment, I meet with the OEM team once every two weeks.  Thats been going fine, but can be a bottle neck and the bus factor14:12
willcookeso as well as that meeting, they will also start tagging bugs that they think are important14:13
willcookeI think we should do the same process as for rls bugs14:13
willcookeso next week, or maybe the week after, I'll add a new section to the meeting where we can look at the OEM bugs and assign them as needed14:13
Trevinhocan't just they use the same tagging and assign to oem project too?14:13
seb128?14:14
seb128I don't understand, I though we asked them to use the rls-nn-incoming process a while ago when we discussed oem bugs14:14
seb128wouldn't it make more sense to just use the same process rather than inventing a new one?14:14
willcookequite possibly14:15
willcookeI'm going to do a few dummy runs with them, so I'll try and do it with rls bugs as normal and see how it goes14:15
didrocksshouldn't there be a way to know it's coming from oem?14:16
didrocks(so maybe an additional tag + rls- ones)14:16
didrocksor oem-priority14:16
Trevinhoyeah indeed adding the oem project or a tag and then underline it in the rls page would be nice14:16
willcookeok, lets try that and see how it goes, we can tweak as we go14:17
seb128oem has way to let us know14:17
seb128description14:17
seb128oem-priority14:18
seb128comments14:18
seb128I don't think that's going to be a problem14:18
seb128but yeah, let's iterate and see if we have practical issues14:18
willcookeyeah14:18
willcookegood14:18
willcookeok, that's all I got for now14:18
willcookeAnyone else?14:18
seb128not really14:19
willcookegoing once14:19
seb128I wonder if we should start gettting organized for next cycle14:19
seb128but that's probably good via email/next meeting14:19
willcookeseb128, yeah you and I should talk this week14:19
willcookeI was planning to do it in the meeting on Weds, but...14:19
seb128I did email my team asking people to start thinking about that14:19
willcookeso Thursday will have to be the day14:20
seb128and try to deal with SRU/look at tech debt and how to reduce it meanwhile14:20
seb128but yeah14:20
seb128sry :)14:20
kenvandine+114:20
willcookewe picked up some small work from Taipei, nothing major14:20
seb128worker day, celebrated by not working! :)14:20
willcooketypical French14:20
willcookeXD14:20
willcookeok, lets wrap.14:20
willcookelongest meeting ever14:20
willcooke#endmeeting14:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr 30 14:21:01 2019 UTC.14:21
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-04-30-13.30.moin.txt14:21
willcookethanks all14:21
Trevinhothanks14:21
didrocksthx14:21
oSoMoNthanks14:21
andyrockthx! and thx again for everything!14:21
seb128thx14:22
didrocksthanks andyrock, don't be a stranger14:22
andyrocksure! :D14:22
oSoMoNdoko, tdaitx: why is there a fonts-liberation2 task on bug #1814133 ?14:42
ubot5`bug 1814133 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Cosmic) "update to openjdk 11 in 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181413314:42
seb128trevinho, could you look at bug #1826797?15:14
ubot5`bug 1826797 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[regression] gnome-shell crashes if booted with the monitor off ["JS ERROR: TypeError: monitor is null" from _updateContentScale@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/magnifier.js:174:9]" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182679715:14
tdaitxoSoMoN: because it was one of the packages we updated, probably libreoffice15:38
tdaitx*probably a dependency of libreoffice15:39
oSoMoNtdaitx, libreoffice and libreoffice-common both recommend fonts-liberation2, but that doesn't imply that fonts-liberation2 should be rebuilt, right?15:45
tdaitxoSoMoN: I don't know, I haven't look into that (doko worked on those packages), bionic had fonts-liberation2 2.00.1-5 and it was updated to 2.00.1-7~18.04.2 during the transition15:46
oSoMoNit was apparently only a no-change upload targetting the security pocket15:49
oSoMoNtdaitx, do you know why there are cosmic tasks for some of the packages in that bug report?15:50
tdaitxoSoMoN: because we had to update packages on Cosmic as well, since a few versions on bionic ended up being higher than cosmic15:50
tdaitxand when the approval to -proposed happens a task is created for each "bug fixed" in the changelog for that release15:52
oSoMoNack, that makes sense15:58
oSoMoNthat's not the case for fonts-liberation2 though, cosmic already had 2.00.1-715:59
tdaitxoSoMoN: oh, you are asking about the cosmic task for fonts-liberation2, weird, it should not have that... in fact, since the changelog does not mention 1814133 it shouldn't be there at all16:15
oSoMoNyeah16:19
tdaitxoSoMoN: feel free to remove it and any other tasks that are not mentioned on the changelog, specially for cosmic tasks16:24
tdaitxI will run through that bug again later on this week to make sure it is sane16:24
Trevinhoseb128: ok looking that too16:34
seb128trevinho, thx, seems an issue with one of your PRs16:42
Trevinhoyep16:42
oSoMoNtdaitx, ok, will do (at least for fonts-liberation2)16:50
=== pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk
willcookenight all17:21
oSoMoNgood night all, see ya on Thursday18:56

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