| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| xubuntu41w | Hi, I'm installing on a MacBook Air 2013 that has no SSD...how would I disable that in kernel "cheat-codes"? | 12:23 |
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| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: disable what? | 12:25 |
| xubuntu41w | Disable the non-working SSD (solid state THE [internal] harddrive) | 12:26 |
| pmjdebruijn | why would you want to disable it? | 12:26 |
| pmjdebruijn | if the ssd isn't working ,what are you install xubuntu on then? | 12:26 |
| xubuntu41w | It takes about 36 seconds for the system to start up looking for a working SSD even after holding the option key after boot-sound, PLUS it takes another 66 seconds once an OS is starting up. | 12:27 |
| pmjdebruijn | what are you booting from then? | 12:28 |
| xubuntu41w | USB 2.0 drive...1.6 GB.... was looking for a way to use UBUNTU FOR STEAM, GAMEDEV USE. | 12:29 |
| pmjdebruijn | are you sure the internal ssd is the issue for bootspeed? as booting from a USB drive isn't going to be fast to begin with | 12:30 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: wouldn't it be much better to just replace the failed ssd? | 12:32 |
| xubuntu41w | Yes, I am sure. I take out the SSD before starting....it goes straight to the boot menu, but once I start ANY OS [from USB] they don't start UNLESS I have the SSD card in the machine. Then in the NON-SILENT verbose mode of ANY SYSTEMS it has error | 12:32 |
| xubuntu41w | Errors looking for not working drive... | 12:32 |
| xubuntu41w | You have work for me? Or want to donate $250 Canadian.....:-) | 12:33 |
| xubuntu41w | Believe me its error for the PCI/ATA controller or something that is for the SSD.... | 12:33 |
| xubuntu41w | Believe me the *&$&% SSD is the one not working and I want to disable it. | 12:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102648/how-to-tell-linux-kernel-3-0-to-completely-ignore-a-failing-disk | 12:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | that MIGHT Help | 12:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | libata.force=2.00:disable | 12:35 |
| xubuntu41w | That is sounding PRETTY CLOSE my friend...! I'll stay on board a bit, but I will have to restart my machine multiple times to check it out.....For now, I'll read it.... | 12:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | btw, also keep in mind that SSDs have gotten fairly cheap | 12:37 |
| xubuntu41w | Neat to hear. I got the 2013 machine 5 years ago. The SSDs were expensive asf. | 12:38 |
| pmjdebruijn | 128GB NVME SSDs can be had to 35EUR | 12:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | probably not as performant as the original | 12:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | but still much faster than a USB drive | 12:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | the big question is if they will work in a Mac | 12:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | Mac's are sadly an atrocious choice if you're on a budget, even 5yrs after purchase | 12:40 |
| pmjdebruijn | for example: TS128GMTE110S | 12:44 |
| pmjdebruijn | but again not sure if Apple sabotaged third party SSDs in their hardware | 12:45 |
| xubuntu41w | This is superb help. Yes, the price I found was for ones that are double the original speed of the SSD. I wouldn't mind even a 32/64GB if they exist. | 12:48 |
| xubuntu41w | I looked through all the kernel commands [official listing] didn't find any particular one that would not affect USB as well. | 12:49 |
| xubuntu41w | So, yeah, the fix you mention does have to have a patch, and the one linked is for 3.12 kernel. I'll be installing Xubuntu 19.04 which I think has kernel 5.0. | 12:52 |
| xubuntu41w | Any ideas on how to PATCH kernels? | 12:52 |
| ChunkzZ | hi, where are the options for adding "delete" permanently in 19.04? | 13:04 |
| ChunkzZ | I only have move to wastebasket.,... | 13:04 |
| brainwash | ChunkzZ: preferences > behavior | 13:07 |
| ChunkzZ | brainwash, where? | 13:07 |
| xubuntu41w | In Ubuntu [regular] it was an option in the preferences. | 13:07 |
| ChunkzZ | I don't see it brainwash | 13:08 |
| ChunkzZ | no prefrences... | 13:08 |
| xubuntu41w | One of the tabs has a checkbox, in Preferences of Nautilus. | 13:08 |
| ChunkzZ | and where do I find Nautilus?@ | 13:08 |
| xubuntu41w | Sorry, I don't have Xubuntu, yet. It's downloading. So, I think they use a different file-manager. | 13:09 |
| ChunkzZ | I'm on 19.04... | 13:09 |
| brainwash | ChunkzZ: https://bluesabre.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/thunar.png | 13:09 |
| ChunkzZ | brainwash, I don't have that installed?! | 13:10 |
| brainwash | you don't have Thunar (the file manager) installed? | 13:10 |
| ChunkzZ | yes, thunar is installed but no file manager pref... | 13:11 |
| brainwash | ... | 13:11 |
| ChunkzZ | ? | 13:11 |
| brainwash | thunar has a menu bar | 13:11 |
| brainwash | you go there | 13:11 |
| brainwash | and click on preferences | 13:11 |
| ChunkzZ | !!!! | 13:12 |
| ChunkzZ | thanks!!!!!!!!!! | 13:12 |
| brainwash | you're welcome | 13:12 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: the article mentioend the patch going mainline, so it should work everywhere now | 13:13 |
| xubuntu41w | Cool dude! So, I just add the line in the grub menu? | 13:17 |
| xubuntu41w | I mean the parameter in the linux line of a boot-loader? | 13:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | probably | 13:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | again I have no experience with this | 13:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | I would just replace the SSD | 13:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | but then again I would have never bought a Mac to begin with :D | 13:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | sorry for begin cheecky | 13:20 |
| xubuntu41w | I was going to do development for iOS devices.....Apology accepted. | 13:20 |
| xubuntu41w | What's the big/small differences from Xubuntu and UBUNTU Mate?? Like memory usage and performance, other than desktop environment. | 13:22 |
| xubuntu41w | See if you can convince me to stick to Xubuntu anyone... | 13:23 |
| brainwash | you can download both, and test both | 13:24 |
| xubuntu41w | I am Ubuntu Mate just finished downloading a second ago, Xubuntu in 41 minutes.. I was and STILL asking for OTHERS opinions and experience. i7 processor, 8GB RAM, USB 2.0 startup/boot device. | 13:25 |
| xubuntu41w | *I am. | 13:26 |
| brainwash | what do you expect? this is the Xubuntu channel | 13:26 |
| brainwash | you probably should search the web for comparisons instead | 13:28 |
| brainwash | actual benchmarks etc. | 13:28 |
| xubuntu41w | Ok, I checked out YouTube videos....AGAIN YOUR OPINIONS, OTHERS EXPERIENCE IF ANY. | 13:29 |
| xubuntu41w | I checked them out hours ago. | 13:29 |
| xubuntu41w | Okay, so A DIFFERENT QUESTION: | 13:30 |
| brainwash | no need for caps | 13:30 |
| xubuntu41w | :D How do you **bold**? | 13:30 |
| xubuntu41w | Can I use the brandmarks, https://xubuntu.org/resources/ , to make anything like 3D printed work, and give them away? Can I even sell them, like knitted work or something like calendars? | 13:32 |
| brainwash | I have no idea | 13:34 |
| gnrp | xubuntu41w: There is written on that page that you should get in touch | 13:44 |
| gnrp | "Want to use our logo somewhere or update to the newest version but need help? | 13:44 |
| gnrp | Be in contact and we’ll help you. | 13:44 |
| gnrp | and for bold: Some clients interpret single asterisks as something *bold*, others don't. | 13:45 |
| xubuntu41w | @gnrp Aha. and thanks for tip. | 13:53 |
| xubuntu41w | Yes, the email is xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 13:53 |
| xubuntu41w | I have another question while I have a running system: | 13:54 |
| xubuntu41w | Is it possible to run Xubuntu on a USB stick as Read-Only? | 13:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | in iso mode | 13:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | dd if=xubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX | 13:56 |
| xubuntu41w | Purpose: To not have the install/system disk get corrupted or inoperable with a poweroutage or non-traditional reboot/shutdown. | 13:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | since ISO9660 is a readonly filesystem | 13:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: that always the case with usb live boot | 13:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | or did you _install_ to a usb stick | 13:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | in any case, for a real world usable system, it's fairly hard to do any work without some persistent storage | 13:57 |
| xubuntu41w | I had an install of Ubuntu that couldn't start up [went to grub-rescue] after not shutting down through the menus. | 13:57 |
| xubuntu41w | So, something like UNetbootin to make persistance available to the USB non-installed system? How would you dd that persistance? | 13:58 |
| xubuntu41w | I think there's an option in Unetbootin for Ubuntu systems to have configurable persistence storage... | 13:59 |
| xubuntu41w | xubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso 29 seconds to download!!! | 14:01 |
| xubuntu41w | Wish me luck getting it to have persistance storage on USB!! | 14:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu has its own bootable creator | 14:04 |
| xubuntu41w | Have you used it? | 14:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | not a long while | 14:06 |
| xubuntu41w | What Xubuntu version/desktop-environment do you use <pmjdebruijn> may I ask? | 14:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | 18.04 | 14:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | but desktops are just personal preference nothing more | 14:08 |
| xubuntu41w | Hence a question directed to a person...?? | 14:08 |
| xubuntu41w | Uninstall your personal preference to JWM or GNU/Step, nothing more.......... | 14:09 |
| xubuntu41w | ................................................ | 14:09 |
| xubuntu41w | ..................jk ^_______________^ | 14:10 |
| pmjdebruijn | please don't do that | 14:10 |
| pmjdebruijn | but I like xfce just fine, which is the whole point of installing xubuntu | 14:10 |
| xubuntu41w | Indeed. Xubuntu can use Steam? | 14:12 |
| xubuntu41w | A popular game downloading/server-type place/thing. | 14:12 |
| Axzercion | ofcourse, xubuntu is based on debian | 14:12 |
| xubuntu41w | So we don't need unity/gnome/gtk/systemd? | 14:13 |
| xubuntu41w | For steam. | 14:13 |
| Axzercion | why would u need that? | 14:13 |
| xubuntu41w | There are people called developers. | 14:13 |
| Axzercion | not sure about the dependencies of steam, never looked them up | 14:14 |
| xubuntu41w | Developers talk to computers. Why would you ask that? | 14:14 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: what do developers have do to with the compatilibty of steam with a particular window manager? | 14:14 |
| xubuntu41w | He asked why would we need those, if at all, well programmers/execs would have put them in and do you have apps that use only Qt . | 14:15 |
| xubuntu41w | WTF can't you know these things? | 14:15 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu41w: he meant why would steam need unity | 14:16 |
| xubuntu41w | SMH. | 14:16 |
| Axzercion | the gtk couldve been a dependency, but it looks like steam doesn't depend on it | 14:16 |
| xubuntu41w | Not the point dude. Wake up, repent and find God. | 14:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | which app uses which toolkit doesn't matter, this is handled by package dependancies | 14:16 |
| bakedpi | If I install xfce4 on ubuntu 18.04 and login with xfce session I get this 4 panel workspace switcher at top right which I don't get in Xubuntu 18.04? How do I get it? | 15:51 |
| bakedpi | I have increased workspaces to 4 in the workspaces app in Xubuntu but can't change to any other workspace. | 15:52 |
| diogenes_ | bakedpi, i assume you need to add workspace switcher plugin to the panel. | 16:01 |
| === marcc is now known as kub | ||
| xubuntu74i | have a lot of fun. | 17:29 |
| bakedpi | diogenes_: Thanks. Found about the plugins. | 17:54 |
| glith | Hello | 19:47 |
| glith | I have a problem with my computer lid. Whenever I close it, the screen remains on, and if by any reason the computer goes to sleep mode, whenever I try to wake it up it basically reboots. | 19:49 |
| glith | I've looked in several subreddits and forums and I havent found any solution | 19:50 |
| brainwash | glith: does suspend work otherwise? did you test without having the screen locker enabled? any related messages in the system log? | 19:53 |
| brainwash | also, how did you configure the Xfce power manager? | 19:53 |
| glith | anything that "locks" the screen makes the computer reboot | 19:54 |
| glith | the xfce power manager is on default settings | 19:54 |
| glith | I tried disabling the screen locker with no changes | 19:54 |
| brainwash | and the first question? | 19:57 |
| glith | Im going to try suspend, wait a sec | 19:59 |
| glith_ | okay! suspend works apparently | 20:01 |
| glith_ | first time the screen locked and woke up without rebooting | 20:01 |
| brainwash | glith_: how did you disable the screen locker before? | 20:08 |
| brainwash | I'm still not sure about that part | 20:08 |
| glith_ | I went to the startup settings and disabled it and also using killall light-locker | 20:09 |
| brainwash | good | 20:09 |
| brainwash | and despite that the system was not able to properly suspend on lid close, right? | 20:10 |
| glith_ | exactly | 20:10 |
| glith_ | I currently have the screen locker disable btw | 20:10 |
| glith_ | since having it enabled does nothing either | 20:10 |
| glith_ | I could give the computer specs if that helps | 20:11 |
| brainwash | you may want to try the following: adding "IgnoreLid=true" to /etc/UPower/UPower.conf | 20:12 |
| glith_ | okay, hold up | 20:12 |
| brainwash | I've read about this configuration change a few times | 20:13 |
| brainwash | in relation to lid close issues | 20:13 |
| brainwash | no idea if it takes effect immediately | 20:14 |
| glith_ | going to reboot and try | 20:18 |
| glith | i dont know what im looking for tho | 20:22 |
| brainwash | another test? | 20:23 |
| brainwash | to verify if the config change works or not | 20:23 |
| glith | i closed the lid, didnt do anything (as expected) but apart from that I guess i have to enable the screen locker and wait for it to lock | 20:24 |
| brainwash | what action do you expect? just screen locking or suspend + lock? | 20:25 |
| glith | screen lock | 20:25 |
| brainwash | I don't know what the default power manager config is | 20:25 |
| brainwash | okay | 20:25 |
| glith_ | 20:34 | |
| glith | okay, it locked and didn't automatically reboot, but i wasnt able to wake it up | 20:36 |
| glith | I had to hard reboot the laptop | 20:36 |
| glith | Weird | 20:36 |
| glith__ | I disabled again the screen locker just in case | 20:41 |
| brainwash | glith__: I would install "xscreensaver" and see if it's maybe a problem with light-locker | 20:44 |
| glith | okay | 20:44 |
| glith | Im going to try | 20:45 |
| brainwash | install it and then relog | 20:45 |
| brainwash | so that it gets started via autostart | 20:45 |
| glith_ | alright im back, let's see if this works | 20:49 |
| glith_ | It allows me to wake up the laptop, so im calling it a success | 20:51 |
| brainwash | great | 20:53 |
| glith_ | It sucks that the lid cannot control sleep wake functions.... | 20:54 |
| glith_ | thanks brainwash! You have been really helpful :) | 20:58 |
| brainwash | you're welcome glith_ | 21:01 |
| Soid | help shashlik gives me virtualization error, and the screen stays black, but virtual box works very well | 21:42 |
| Soid | help shashlik gives me virtualization error, and the screen stays black, but virtual box works very well | 21:55 |
| Soid | help shashlik gives me virtualization error, and the screen stays black, but virtual box works very well | 22:14 |
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