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lgcHi, I'm upgrading to 18.04 at 5 KB/s. But no, it doesn't seem to be the DSL speed. I've tried this for the third time and it seems to be the same every time. Any advice?00:46
tomreynlgc: hmm maybe you hit a slow mirror server. does it say where it's downloading from?00:48
tomreynmaybe if you expand the terminal on the bottom00:49
lgctomreyn, no, it doesn't.00:49
lgcAnd the terminal button is greyed out. :(00:49
tomreynlgc: can you still cancel at this point or did it already seem to be unable to roll back if you would?00:50
tomreynif you couldn't tell, just report what it says now.00:51
lgctomreyn, I have cancelled more than once, and the count of downloaded files doesn't start from 0, but from where I cancelled.00:51
tomreynlgc: okay, so we won't loose anything if we cancel again, right?00:51
tomreynlgc: what you are doing there is a graphical upgrade. that's fine when things work well, but if you want to get a better idea what's not working you can do it on the temrinal instead00:52
tomreynthere is a "do-release-upgrade" command which does the upgrade on a terminal00:52
tomreynbut it'd be wise to run this on a tty rather than in a terminal window00:53
tomreyn!tty00:53
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution00:53
lgctomreyn, it's fine with me if it's terminal-only.00:54
tomreynlgc: ok, so cancel, and give the above a try.00:54
lgcFormerly it was 'sudo apt-get ugrade', but it seemingly has changed...00:54
Meadnow it is sudo apt upgrade00:55
tomreynneither00:55
tomreynthats for updating to the latest pckage versions within a release00:55
Meadoh00:55
tomreynbut not for release upgrading.00:55
* Mead didn't read up00:55
tomreynin the past, yes, apt-get dist-upgrade is what you did on early ubuntu release.00:56
tomreynbut that's the diiiistant past00:56
lgcsudo apt-get dist-upgrade, rather.00:56
tomreynyes, but there's some "sauce" to that on ubuntu for a while now, which do-release-upgrade handles00:57
lgcWell, I remained distant from Ubuntu for a couple of years... :)00:57
tomreynit's still open source, you can still investigate how it works00:57
lgcOk, but tell me, if it's a problem with the mirror, will the command-mode upgrade fix it?00:59
tomreynno, but at least we'll know which mirror you'll need to prevent using, and that should make the next run succeed. plus we can report it00:59
lgcSounds reasonable, yes.01:00
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lgctomreyn, I started the update on a tty. Why a tty?01:03
tomreynlgc: well, do-release-upgrade is the release upgrade mechanism for servers. it should keep your desktop installed, and upgrade it, but it may not take into account that X is needed for the upgrader to keep working properly during the upgrade.01:05
lgcIt's now downloading at 58 MB/s, which is still low.01:05
tomreyn6 kilobytes per second to 58 megabytes per second seem like a huge jump01:06
tomreynwhat's your bandwidth then?01:06
lgcOh, no, I was wrong. It's the count of the MB of a given file it has downloaded. Actually, the speed is much, much less, but it's not reported.01:08
tomreynyou can run a log tail in another tty, if you like01:10
lgcIt's about 5 seconds per 0.1 MB.01:10
tomreyni think this is - from memory, you may need to fix the paths,   tail -f /var/log/release-upgrade/main.log01:10
tomreynyou have not yet told which bandwidth is expected01:11
lgcThe file doesn't seem to exist.01:11
tomreyn /var/log/dist-upgrade/01:12
tomreynhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager#Debugging_Procedures01:12
tomreynapt-term.log should list the downloads01:13
lgcIt seems you can't tail such kind of files.01:13
lgctomreyn, I looked at the log files and nothing seems particularly grave, though I don't understand much of the messages.01:21
lgcBack at 5KB/s...01:22
tomreynlgc: if you'd like to share some:  tail /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt-term,log | nc termbin.com 999901:23
tomreynlgc: you can do the same for main.log01:23
tomreynlgc: since you said 58 Megabyte per second (~460 megabit / second) is slow, i'm wondering what you expect to see.01:25
lgctomreyn, I clarified I was wrong. However, now I can see the download speed is 10 kB/s.01:29
tomreyncan't help you if you don't share details.01:30
lgcWhat details do you want?01:31
tomreynwhich bandwith do you expect to see, which server is it downloading from, which ubuntu version are oyu upgrading from and to.01:32
tomreynyou said you'Re upgrading to 18.0401:32
tomreynif you can't tell the server it's downloading from, then share logs01:33
lgctomreyn, it seems the download is from evowise.com, or something like that.01:34
lgcAnd I expect to see download speed in the order of 500 KB/s or more.01:34
lgcI'm upgrading from 16.04, as I said at the beginning.01:35
tomreynyou did not say so.01:36
tomreynevowise has mirror servers in several countries, so itÄs hard to tell which one you're using.01:38
lgcI thought so. It's from 16.04.01:38
tomreyni see01:38
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drewbertAre there any programmers in here? What would you say is the biggest challenge you face day-to-day with getting work done?01:52
ryuodrewbert: this isn't a good place for that kind of question.01:53
drewbertOkay, sorry all. PM if you want to respond. Otherwise ignore me.01:53
ryuodrewbert: you can ask in #lpmc01:54
drewbertThanks ryuo!01:54
DaddyKitty04Hello01:55
DaddyKitty04Lot's of people are signing out!01:55
DaddyKitty04Hello!01:57
tomreyn!netsplit | DaddyKitty0401:57
ubottuDaddyKitty04: A netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit01:57
tomreynalso hi there01:57
daxi think irccloud's just misbehaving01:57
DaddyKitty04Ok01:57
ryuojoins/parts are normal noise. i generally ignore them.01:57
DaddyKitty04I'm just trying HexChat.01:57
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swift110ryuo: I have joins/parts turned pff02:11
wadedyAnyone have any experience with snap?  or nextcloud?02:17
Bashing-om!snappy | wadedy02:19
ubottuwadedy: Ubuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/02:19
sky_hey all!02:55
TimeDoctorhi02:55
sky_how goes it02:56
TimeDoctorgood, got some trouble with ubuntu?02:56
sky_i actually have a couple of questions. might destroy some privacy by asking but02:57
sky_do i configure my vpn through vm or main host for ubuntu?02:57
sky_*main host OS02:58
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yuanhello03:31
yuanlol03:32
loserHi any cn help me? I need fix repository, where cn I get it?03:57
purpl3s0cksenjoy your fishing04:30
javery86Is anyone in here running Ubuntu 19.04? And if so, when you click off of a window and are not directly focused on it, does the orange color in the "x" exit window control button disappear?04:57
mindaugas7hello, who can help me with gpu passtrough?05:12
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hihihuhuHello06:09
lotuspsychje!rootirc | hihihuhu06:09
ubottuhihihuhu: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.06:09
hihihuhuI am newbie, then how?06:11
lotuspsychjehihihuhu: logout, then come back as regular user not as root06:12
hihihuhuOk, thx very much, it is bad for my secure?06:12
lotuspsychjehihihuhu: yes06:12
hihihuhuOk06:12
hihihuhuThx very much06:12
hihihuhuHow? like this?06:17
lotuspsychjehihihuhu: thats much better mate06:17
hihihuhuOk thx very much06:18
lotuspsychjehihihuhu: now this is the ubuntu support channel, do you need help with ubuntu?06:18
hihihuhuI'm newbie, last month I'm install ubuntu06:18
hihihuhuWhere I cn find ubuntu repository?06:19
lotuspsychjehihihuhu: start from the beginning, what do you want to do exactly?06:19
hihihuhuwhat is "sudo" command?06:23
phockingman sudo06:23
hihihuhuman sudo?06:24
phockingyes06:26
phockingfrom your ubuntu machine06:26
phockingissue the `man' command (manual)06:26
phockingfor the `sudo' page06:26
phockingand it will give you a pretty good story of what sudo is/does/how to use it06:27
phockingessentially though, the command is to 'do' something as the 'superuser'06:27
phockinge.g SU-DO06:27
gibi23Hi06:32
gibi23I need help please06:33
Bashing-om!ask | gibi2306:33
ubottugibi23: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:33
gibi23I have been trying to get my laptop to hibernate when lid is closed for the past 2 days and can't figure things out :/06:34
gibi23I'm on 18.04 and have tried most tutorials on the web.06:35
gibi23It seems the root of the problem is none of the commands in logind.conf seem to work...06:36
gibi23HandleLidSwitch=hibernate does not work at all..06:38
gibi23And yes I created a swap file that's double my memory and the pm -hibernate command works fine but for some reason does not when lid closes..06:40
guivercgibi23, sorry I don't use hibernate, but this may help https://askubuntu.com/questions/768136/how-can-i-hibernate-on-ubuntu-16-04  (it says 16.04, but a 18.04 quested was marked a duplicate of this)06:44
Bilbo0Can anyone help me with my driver manager thinking I am using a different driver than I am and random freeze ups that seem to be video card driver based?06:46
guivercgibi23, also ensure your system is full-upgrade'd , i note an issue that stopped hibernate from working in 18.04 which was fixed with `apt full-upgrade`06:46
gibi23Ah I06:48
gibi23ic06:48
gibi23Sorry I'm a Linux noob, I did click on the update app when I installed Ubuntu. Is that the same thing as that command?06:49
imzadiis it possible to chainloaf lilio grom grub106:49
gibi23And yeah that's the link Ive also been trying and no bueno :(06:49
gibi23I guess I'm gonna just have to learn to live with suspend instead of hibernate haha06:50
imzadigrub1 hangs when told to boot ubuntu06:50
guivercgibi23, others may be able to offer more (they may have more experience with hibernate; i do know it's hardware dependent, works great on some hardware, can have problems for some without config.. etc)06:53
guivercimzadi, i'd suspect it'd be possible to chainload from grub(2) to lilo, but I haven't used lilo in years so opinion only06:54
imzadithid has grub106:55
guivercimzadi, what ubuntu are you using to use grub1  thid??06:55
imzadiit has grub1 from another distro06:56
imzadigrub2 failed to install06:56
imzadililo installed fine but when chanloading it says nvalid executable format06:56
guiverci can't help with 'other distro' - it's off-topic here. but it's old (2010 or before as i recall)06:57
imzadiis this anpther problrm caused by fake 64 bit from intrl06:57
imzadiintel screw up06:58
imzadiintel blew the enyire computer aparr06:58
imzadiintel blew it apart with fake 6406:59
guivercfake 64 bit makes me think of pentium m & the like, they all run grub2 (1.97 & up)07:00
imzadiit isnt chainlkading lilo07:01
imzadiit reads invalid executable format07:01
imzadithr things cant run07:04
imzadiall of the files are there07:05
paul__i'm running ubuntu server in a chrooted sftp server which has a directory mapped to the users home dir which is a s3 bucket mapped by fuse s3fs, I can mount the drive and list the contents, I can write to a folder but when I try move a file into a folder I get opertion not permitted, I su to the user same error, I tried as root same error, I unmounted the s3 bucket and re mounted it. still nothing, it did07:06
paul__work fine till just before easter where it looked like the mount dropped so i remounted it but i just can't move from the users root dir to the folder, I can create files directly in folder07:06
lotuspsychjepaul__: come join in #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers please07:06
paul__will do thank you07:07
imzadipaul__ hi07:07
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imzadidid you use a credit card to sign up for amazon paul98107:09
paul98it's a company account. so i assume so....07:09
lotuspsychjeonly ubuntu questions here imzadi07:10
guivercimzadi, many legacy grub 0.97 do not support ext4 (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2292617) so the fix may be using ext3 (assuming you're using ext4)07:10
imzadiwhich is stopping yout intention is it amazon or the system07:10
guivercimzadi, please stay on-topic (Ubuntu Support)07:10
imzadiguiverc no that idnt a fix that id a reinstall07:11
daximzadi: stick to your own support request, please. i've noticed unhelpful comments from you quite a bit recently on your various nicks, and i am somewhat bored of it07:11
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imzadidax I was board by your apps, paintings of nikola tesla07:11
imzadiwhat do you expect me to do with a painying of nikola tesla07:12
paul98if your pointing out the fact s3 bucket costs for data transfer and it's blocked by that, then no it isn't that07:13
paul98but i'll ask in #ubuntu-server07:13
qwebirc55257greetings07:27
lotuspsychjewelcome to ubuntu support qwebirc5525707:28
qwebirc55257so im trying to run pihole in docker.... was following some tutorials, and found that networ-manager was missing attempted to add it but now i cant install anything due to some dns issues07:29
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lotuspsychjeqwebirc55257: for arm devices you might want to try the arm channel07:34
lotuspsychje!arm | qwebirc5525707:34
ubottuqwebirc55257: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.07:34
javery86Anyone know how to get "Dark Mode" and "Slim Mode" buttons within the Gnome Settings Background section like that is available  in Pop!_OS?07:38
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lotuspsychjejavery86: popOs! is a derivative of ubuntu and not support here, you can contact the system76 crew for that07:43
javery86Sounds good. Thanks!07:43
lotuspsychjejavery86: another option could be installing vanilla ubuntu and have the full support here :p07:44
RamKaby Indian like to help me in Hindi ?07:44
RamKAny*07:44
lotuspsychje!in | RamK07:44
ubottuRamK: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India07:44
RamKlotuspsychje thanks07:45
javery86Sounds like a plan! Thanks again!07:47
lotuspsychjewelcome javery8607:47
javery86I appreciate it.07:47
RamKanyone like to help about dual boot backbox with win10 ?07:48
ducasseRamK: backbox is not supported here07:48
RamKI know this is not a chann to discuss about other Distro07:48
RamKeven if any polite person to be able to help ?07:48
ducasseit's got nothing to do with politeness, it's offtopic07:49
RamKif you help me here when you got my message already ,it will be nothing change or it will make a war if you help me here07:49
RamKis it ?07:49
RamKpeople follow the rules like a kiddo07:50
RamKrules are made to be broken07:50
RamKshame*07:50
XtremeHey Guys,07:51
lotuspsychjeRamK: start here please: https://community.backbox.org/07:51
XtremeI am running on Ubuntu 19.0407:51
XtremeI am trying to install ukuu  on my system.07:51
XtremeI have added the ppa, but when i try to install the package, it says package not found.07:51
RamKlotuspsychje there is many forum to post , but what about live help07:51
javery86Did you already add the PPA, Xtreme?07:51
Xtremejavery86, yes.07:51
XtremeAnd i see that ppa has main for disco07:52
lotuspsychjeXtreme: to play with kernels we reccomend using !mainline on ubuntu07:52
javery86Then just go to your PPA manager and change it from "disco" to "bionic".07:52
daxRamK: #backbox on irc.autistici.org, apparently. Not this channel, in any case.07:52
javery86I had the same problem, and solved it.07:52
javery86Then after you install it, just change it back.07:52
RamKohk dax07:52
Xtremejavery86, makes sense. but as i can see that ppa actually has disco07:52
dax(there's also a telegram chat on the link lotuspsychje gave you)07:53
javery86Correct. It's for the paid version though.07:53
Xtremejavery86, aah okay. that clears it out.07:53
Xtremethanks07:53
javery86That PPA is not based on the free version which is what you're trying to download I assume?07:53
Xtremelotuspsychje, whats mainline?07:53
lotuspsychje!mainline | Xtreme07:53
ubottuXtreme: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds07:53
Xtremejavery86, it is.07:53
ducassejavery86: Xtreme installing packages built for another release is not recommended, ask the maintainer to build packages for disco07:53
Xtremelotuspsychje, yes UKUU downloads from there itself.07:54
XtremeI thought it was another package like ukuu07:54
EriC^^RamK: maybe in ##linux they wouldnt mind since it's a more general channel (ill be there btw *wink* *wink*)07:54
Xtremeducasse, yup.07:54
ducasseXtreme: iirc there is a snap for ukuu?07:54
Xtremeducasse, nope07:54
RamKEriC^^ you know people just follow the rules07:55
RamKeven of you think would be helpful to someone then please take a look - https://pasteboard.co/IbUvUlp.jpg07:56
RamKI got this error while installing backb inside win1007:56
RamKwhat they ask to format my hardisk ?07:57
RamKI don't understand the message box07:57
ducasseRamK: ok, you can stop now. you've been told what you can do.07:57
RamKducasse hmm07:57
RamKic07:57
RamKducasse you know here too many hidden OP's07:57
EriC^^RamK: it's not an error, it's just a final warning before continuing, you can press continue and it would have installed it07:58
EriC^^RamK: do you have a live session in the installer where you get a terminal or desktop to test it first?07:59
RamKwhat happen to when it says - the following partition are going to be format'07:59
RamKEriC^^ yes I've live dvd for installation07:59
EriC^^RamK: its going to format the 2 partitions for linux, the main root ext4 one and a swap one08:00
RamKEriC^^ okay , but what it didn't erase  my data ?08:00
EriC^^RamK: i think by default the installer doesnt shrink the windows one to use that space for them, i think usually a person has to shrink it in windows/gparted and then it will just use whatever space is unallocated08:00
EriC^^RamK: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" in the live dvd and paste the link here it will give partitions info08:01
RamKI face many some problem while installing distro's08:01
RamKsome*08:01
EriC^^many some :D08:01
RamKI'm now on win08:01
RamKwindow*08:01
EriC^^it's normal08:02
XtremeBtw, any ukuu alternative out there?08:02
adachmm somehow the menu entries for adobe acrobat are missing since I upgraded to bionic08:02
EriC^^RamK: ok take a screenshot of the diskmanagement window08:02
adacAlso for firefox they are not there it seems08:02
FrogCastHey my program will not launch any subprocess, given that it is already using too much ram. There with a parameter that I manually have to edit from 0 to 1, but I forget what it is.08:04
FrogCastAnyone have any idea what it is?08:04
FrogCasti think it is overcommit_memory08:05
RamKEriC^^  got dc ,any msg08:09
EriC^^RamK: ok take a screenshot of the diskmanagement window08:09
RamKokay08:10
mkxtwohey i'm installing kubuntu and don't know what partition type to set for the boot device. its BIOS, dos partitioning table, 1 hard drive with 512M boot partition, the rest for LVM. what would the correct partition label in fdisk?08:20
mkxtwo*be08:20
EriC^^mkxtwo: just set the bootflag on the /boot partition08:21
EriC^^it's only necessary cause some bios won't boot the MBR unless they find a partition with said flag, it's not really required by linux for booting, fwiw08:21
mkxtwothank you :)08:22
EriC^^no problem :)08:22
RamKhttps://pasteboard.co/IcO4dOE.png08:23
RamKEriC^^ ^08:23
mkxtwoand how can i rescan the disk after i changed the partition table? don't want to reboot the liveusb08:23
EriC^^mkxtwo: sudo partprobe08:23
mkxtwoyou rock08:23
EriC^^RamK: it looks like there's some unallocated space at the end, it looks very small though08:25
EriC^^RamK: if you can shrink one of the volumes inside the extended logical partition ( from O: to H: ) you'd be set, you need like 15gb for a comfy ubuntu install08:26
EriC^^RamK: you'd need to do right click -> shrink and set the amount in MBs08:27
RamKI want to shrink disk "E" now - https://pasteboard.co/IcO8lYt.png08:29
RamKEriC^^ I've more free space in disk E08:29
EriC^^RamK: you have to defrag it first, the files aren't compacted next to eachother now so it can't easily shrink it08:30
EriC^^defrag it and try again it should let you shrink a good amount of the free space from the volume08:31
mkxonenow when i run "sudo partprobe" i throws this warning "Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes" and lsblk still shows old partitions08:31
RamKI don't understand , defragment I think Its a automatic process08:32
EriC^^RamK: no it's not, you have to do it, i mean set it to run, not manually do it :D08:32
EriC^^RamK: https://www.windowscentral.com/why-and-how-defragment-your-pcs-hard-drive-windows-1008:33
EriC^^no need to defrag the whole drive right now, just volume E:08:34
RamKno E disk found here - https://pasteboard.co/IcObF6p.png08:37
RamKEriC^^ ^08:37
EriC^^RamK: is it currently mounted? it shows in My PC ?08:42
RamKhttps://pasteboard.co/IcOdTVTl.png08:43
RamKcompare with list and scroll08:43
RamKthere is no E disk in defrag08:44
EriC^^RamK: yeah, it seems that the error actually is about something else not defragment, reading here now https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-files/my-disk-drive-is-not-shrink-beyond-the-point/b2108d53-fc52-420a-bf8c-33594372660c08:44
RamKlet me try08:46
EriC^^RamK: this page seems nicer https://somoit.net/windows/windows-cannot-shrink-volume-unmovable-files08:46
RamKthat's actually making a long story run about dual boot08:46
EriC^^RamK: check the 2nd page, its very well done08:47
RamKis that a safe link ?08:47
EriC^^RamK: first start with the event log as they mentioned, it should list the actual system file that's stopping it from doing the shrinking08:47
EriC^^yeah as far as i can tell08:48
RamKokay let me try08:49
EriC^^RamK: go to application log -> defrag events08:50
EriC^^RamK: it can be either a hibernation file, pagefile or the system protection file (that lets you revert stuff), since E: isnt the main drive like C: i doubt it's the first 2, see if the system protection is enabled for it08:51
EriC^^open a cmd prompt and type SystemPropertiesProtection.exe then look at E: if it's enabled08:52
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TuorShould question about install kubuntu (more precise the partitioning with the installer) be asked in #kubuntu or here? I asked in #kubuntu, bu it seems it's not the right time... (Yes I waited an hour).09:06
ducasseTuor: you can ask here, it's the same installer09:07
sophiakwhat should i ask09:07
sophiak?09:08
ducassesophiak: i wasn't talking to you09:08
sophiakshut up09:08
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TuorHi, I'm testing the installation of kubuntu 19.04 in virtualbox (host KDE Neon (based on ubuntu 16.04). I try to reproduce my setup on a other device and want to test it first (specialy VM snapshots between stepts).09:09
TuorMy new device will have other operating systems (Windows and other Linux) on the same disk. In the VM I'm at the installers partitioning step. I did create a partition for /boot and one for encryption. Now I'm stuck, how can I set a password and how can I create a LVM volume group inside? See a screenshot of how it looks: https://i.imgur.com/a4iDGyc.png09:09
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TuorIf there would be no other operating system on the disk, I could let the installer handle it by him self. But I have other operating systems on the new computer and don't want to overwrite them.09:09
ducasse!support | lali sophiak09:09
ubottulali sophiak: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com09:09
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ducasse!de | hannahf lali09:13
ubottuhannahf lali: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!09:13
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Ben64!cookie | Drone09:16
ubottuDrone: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!09:16
ducassegood bot09:17
half_duplexEvening all.09:25
TuorI don't know if my question from befor is now to much (thx to spam) up (not on screen anymore). I asked it '09 this hour. Just so it doesn't get lost...09:28
RamKEriC^^ here protection enable only for C drive. I've set max usage 3gb/10% of my total C disk size09:28
RamKand recently clean up restore points09:31
ducasseTuor: you can ask it again every 15-20 minutes09:36
lotuspsychjeRamK: please seek help in the channel dax provided you09:36
RamKEriC^^ do I need to enable protection for drive E too ,then I'll able to defrag my disk E,after then I can Shrink,after then dual boot ?09:37
lotuspsychje!guidelines | RamK09:37
ubottuRamK: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:37
Tuorducasse: may I pm you?09:37
RamKlotuspsychje what's matter , they are all IT related Q09:37
lotuspsychjeRamK: please if you want to argue about it, ask in #ubuntu-ops09:37
EriC^^RamK: i'd ask in ##windows about why the volume isn't showing up in optimization window, i'm not sure why it's not even there, it's kind of odd, did you check the event log for anything related to the shrinking attempt?09:38
ducasseTuor: ask in the channel, so more people can help09:38
EriC^^RamK: i did find the cli way to defrag, but i'm hesitant to run it since maybe there's a good reason it's not in the list, i'd ask in ##windows cause they should know more about the issue09:38
RamKlotuspsychje are you an a OP of this chan ?09:38
Tuorducasse: I just wanted to make shure, you don't make jokes and it is ok I ask again.09:38
ducasseTuor: yes, it is ok09:39
lotuspsychjeRamK: lets not discuss that here09:39
TuorHi, I'm testing the installation of kubuntu 19.04 in virtualbox (host KDE Neon (based on ubuntu 16.04). I try to reproduce my setup on a other device and want to test it first (specialy VM snapshots between stepts).09:39
TuorMy new device will have other operating systems (Windows and other Linux) on the same disk. In the VM I'm at the installers partitioning step. I did create a partition for /boot and one for encryption. Now I'm stuck, how can I set a password and how can I create a LVM volume group inside? See a screenshot of how it looks: https://i.imgur.com/a4iDGyc.png09:39
TuorIf there would be no other operating system on the disk, I could let the installer handle it by him self. But I have other operating systems on the new computer and don't want to overwrite them.09:40
RamKEriC^^ I have been there too , also they suggest to join linux when they hear in my question involve linux matter09:40
EriC^^RamK: and no you don't need to enable protection, it would let you not defrag anymore09:40
EriC^^RamK: it doesnt though, only tell them that you're trying to shrink the volume E: that's all09:40
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Zeniddhi !09:43
Zeniddsomeone online ?09:43
ducasseZenidd: yes, just ask your question09:44
Zeniddaw yeah09:45
Zeniddwell on pentesting purposes i want to hide a port to see if my antimalware software is triggered09:45
Zeniddbut i dont know how to do it09:45
ducasseZenidd: ask in ##security or ##networking09:51
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thestand19ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 same problem. When the laptop is closed the computer is mute until a restart is done which fix the sound problem. Any ideas?10:56
EriC^^thestand19: did you find any command that unmutes it after the suspend?10:57
thestand19no10:57
thestand19alsamixer didnt fix it10:57
thestand19i could unmute thru there but nothing..10:58
EriC^^thestand19: does "alsa force-reload" help?10:59
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thestand19Just ran that command - no change11:04
EriC^^thestand19: give this a try, it's worth a shot https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348916&highlight=suspend&page=311:04
EriC^^thestand19: if you're able to manually get the sound working again via some tool or settings, then you could add that to the script that runs after resume and have it do it automatically, some guy found that going to settings > output and reselecting what's there helped11:05
thestand19Thanks11:06
EriC^^no problem11:06
thestand19Not sure if this is important, in settings the device is changed from speakers to headphones by itself11:08
thestand19ie after the laptop is reopened11:08
EriC^^thestand19: aha11:08
EriC^^thestand19: try "pavucontrol" then go to output and see what's there11:09
thestand19shows me the speakers as unavailable11:12
hans_what is the difference between "end of standard support" and "end of life" here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases11:13
thestand19it shows headphones as plugged in which they are not11:14
EriC^^thestand19: try "pulseaudio --kill"11:14
EriC^^thestand19: then see the new settings in pavucontrol11:14
lotuspsychjehans_: the last end of life means end of life of the ESM too11:15
hans_ok11:16
hans_and "End of Standard Support11:16
hans_" means end of free security updates?11:16
thestand19its the same setting11:17
Cheezyes hans_11:17
lotuspsychjehans_: standerd is the eol for regular users, the last eol for payed ESM11:17
EriC^^it still says headphones not speakers?11:17
EriC^^thestand19: ^11:17
Cheezbecause the table right below shows that ESM starts on taht date11:17
hans_gotcha thanks11:17
thestand19yes, headphones11:18
EriC^^thestand19: ok give 'pasuspender /bin/true' a shot and see if the audio works11:20
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BluesKajHey folks11:23
thestand19still silence11:25
testedhi, i'm looking for gnome shell extensions for ubuntu 19.0411:27
testedwhere i can download it from or package name?11:27
thestand19even though it says output headphones if i plug them in i still cant get sound thru that11:27
lotuspsychjetested: from https://extensions.gnome.org/ just keep in mind extensions can live an own life inside gnome, be aware wich to trust11:29
EriC^^thestand19: does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/190146/no-sound-after-suspend-resume11:29
testedi checked there but no help :/11:30
testedhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jgczsb8mM6/11:30
testedsudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell show no package11:30
EriC^^thestand19: this sounds very much like your issue, headphones and speakers not found and everything, also it's 18.10, try this instead https://askubuntu.com/questions/1139084/main-sound-device-disappear-after-sleep-mode11:31
thestand19Eric, thats what am going to try. I will report back later on today. Thanks for your help11:32
EriC^^thestand19: alright, no problem11:32
stan19EriC: Everything's all fixed. Thank you again !!12:03
testedsorry i was went offline due to electricity cut12:07
testedso what i missed regarding my no package issue :/12:08
testedsudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell = no package :/12:08
lotuspsychjetested: gnome extensions are installed via the link i provided you, not via apt12:10
testedyeah, it installed in browser but i'm working on Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected.12:11
testedso following apt command :/12:12
testedlotuspsychje it was ubuntu setting issue lol12:34
testedThanks anyways :)12:35
kazdaxwhat is a channel thats dedicated to computer security ?12:38
LordDragonhey all12:38
kazdaxhello12:38
tomreyn!alis | kazdax12:38
ubottukazdax: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"12:38
XtremeHello everyone,12:39
legreffierkazdax: most wargames servers have dedicated irc servers. search for a #social chan on them for a start. smashthestack is a pretty rad one12:39
Xtremeafter installing daily snapshot of alsa via dkms, i have lost my output device.12:40
LordDragonin a "ls -l" what the number after the permissions?12:41
LordDragonis it the user id?12:41
Paavi2_0LordDragon: file size?12:41
LordDragonhmm12:42
LordDragonno12:42
LordDragondrwx------ 6 lorddragon lorddragon 4096 Nov  3  2017 networks12:42
LordDragonthe "6" is what im referring to12:42
Paavi2_0file type, i guess. most of my files have 1 and directories 212:43
zetteHi12:43
LordDragonhmm ok. just trying to see if the user id in the permissions matches my current user12:44
LordDragonwhile they have the same name, the ID might be different or something12:45
shaggyboombastichello12:45
zetteHello too12:45
shaggyboombasticand welcome to another episode of legit food review12:45
legreffierLordDragon: it's the number of links pointing to that directory.12:45
LordDragonlegreffier: ahhh ok. thank you :)12:46
shaggyboombasticanyone else using pop os12:46
LordDragonhow does ubuntu define users? is it just the text name? or is there a numeric value?12:46
zetteNothing, I using Kali12:46
legreffierhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/a/140944 link definition is not your usual ln -s , LordDragon12:46
LordDragonin the permissins i mean12:46
kazdaxzette do you practice hacking ?12:47
kazdaxsince you use kali12:47
shaggyboombasticwhite people always have scared me12:47
legreffierLordDragon: technically, just a number. relevant to whatever /etc/passwd says.12:47
zetteNo, seriously12:47
kazdaxyou mean after hitler ?12:47
kazdaxor the KKK back in the 20s ?12:48
zetteI just like with kali performance12:48
kazdaxkali comes overloaded with alot of apps12:48
tomreyn!ot | kazdax, zette12:48
shaggyboombasticnah im just talking about a song by london yellow12:48
ubottukazdax, zette: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:48
LordDragonlegreffier: my problem i think is that i backed up files to another filesystem and then copied them back, and i dont seem to be able to write to them now, and even though it says my user is the same, i wonder if the iD's are different12:48
zetteWhat it kali channel?12:49
zetteis*12:49
pragmaticenigma!alis | zette12:49
ubottuzette: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"12:49
tomreynshaggyboombastic: what ubottu just said also applies to you.12:49
shaggyboombasticmy dick is quick and my dick pays rent12:49
tomreyn!ot | shaggyboombastic12:49
ubottushaggyboombastic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:49
legreffierLordDragon: it depends a lot on how you copied it and the fs you wrote to12:50
shaggyboombasticok12:50
legreffiereven for OT shaggyboombastic is way out of line. please troll with the ethernet cable pulled out.12:50
kazdaxhe could use wireless tho :D12:50
shaggyboombasticouch fam12:51
kazdaxi thought #security was an open chanel12:51
shaggyboombastic14.4k dial up works well with pop os12:51
tomreynkazdax: that's not an ubuntu support topic12:51
tomreynshaggyboombastic: this neither.12:51
shaggyboombasticpop os is based upon ubuntu12:52
tomreynbut not ubuntu, so we don'T support it here12:52
tomreyntry ##linux12:52
shaggyboombasticok12:52
EriC^^LordDragon: if the name is the same then the uid is the same, as it uses the uid in the files and replaces it with the corresponding user name on the running system, maybe the permissions are off or it's mounted read-only?12:52
pragmaticenigmashaggyboombastic: but it is *NOT* ubuntu... they have altered the core of it enough that we do not have documentation that helps the volunteers here troubleshoot.12:53
LordDragonEriC^^: hmm not sure12:53
EriC^^LordDragon: what does "stat /path/to/mounted/fs" give?12:53
LordDragonbrb12:53
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refalleotest12:54
zettetest12:54
refalleohello world12:54
jdrhello world12:54
zettehello too world :v12:54
lotterbubehello world12:55
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ettezHm :v12:56
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refalleoha ha ha :)12:57
refalleoi like your all12:57
zetteI like u too :*12:57
jeremy31zette refalleo This channel is for Ubuntu support, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic12:58
refalleowhat are you come zette12:58
zettejeremy31, Any kali channel?12:59
zettenothing rafelleo :v12:59
jeremy31zette: #kali-linux12:59
zetteThanks for jeremy31 :)13:00
zetteI think Ubuntu same with linux, and now I know that is kali different13:01
zettewith kali*13:01
refalleoha ha ha i forget vrivt zette :D13:01
zetteI cnt join in that channel jeremy3113:02
zetterefallo, r u using ubuntu?13:03
refalleoubuntu channel its ok, i like that13:04
jeremy31zette: try ##linux13:04
zetteI cnt join in this channel :(13:04
BluesKajzette, maybe you need to register your nick13:05
zetteHow to register my nick?13:06
BluesKaj!register13:06
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.13:06
BluesKajzette, ^13:06
zetteOk friend :)13:06
zetteRegister using email?13:09
tomreynzette: you can get help with irc in #freenode13:10
zette#freenode13:10
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vincenzomlHi, I am a bit in trouble, I ran "do-dist-upgrade" in a terminal; while doing that I pressed ctrl+alt+N to create a new window and the terminal crashed. Now what? The dpkg process seems to be running but how do I resume the whole thing?13:13
vincenzomlit had already passed the upgrade of libc and the restart of services, and was likely doing an apt dist-upgrade13:13
EriC^^vincenzoml: you mean sudo do-release-upgrade right?13:13
vincenzomlEriC^^: yes I do mean that :)13:14
rezoohFirst time using ubuntu and was wondering does samba have an up-to-date gui version?13:14
EriC^^vincenzoml: did you happen to use screen or tmux or so by any chance? it's the only thing that's coming to mind that might help13:15
vincenzomlEriC^^: I know about screen and tmux, but was not using that13:15
vincenzomlI think I can wait for the dpkg process to finish, but I do not know if the script would have done something else (for instance put back my custom apt sources)13:16
EriC^^other than that you could try killing whatever process it's hung up on and let it continue somewhat, like if it is asking some question it'll just go on13:16
tomreynvincenzoml: does this output anything?  sudo screen -list13:16
EriC^^vincenzoml: i think if it's anything like the usual apt process you'll find 2 dpkg's in ps aux, one the main dpkg, the other is some question it's hung up on13:16
vincenzomltomreyn: no, I was not using screen by any means :)13:16
EriC^^vincenzoml: try "ps aux | grep dpkg" after tomreyn 's command13:17
vincenzomlwait13:17
vincenzomlright13:17
EriC^^i wish apt would require to use screen or tmux or so for these stuff, it happens more than you think and there's no way to "plug" back in to the terminal and read stuff or give input13:17
vincenzomltomreyn: yes you're right, sorry13:17
tomreynok, i was thinking do-release-upgrade spawns a screen session by default13:17
tomreynvincenzoml: right abou twhat?13:18
vincenzomlit's very smart that the upgrade process uses screen13:18
vincenzomlautomatically, I mean13:18
EriC^^tomreyn: yeah i think it might too, iirc i've seen something like that13:18
vincenzomlAnd it was a great idea to come here to ask it seems!13:18
vincenzomlthanks, I've resumed the session (for anyone reading this log later, I ran "screen -R")13:18
EriC^^great13:19
EriC^^!cookies | tomreyn \o/13:19
ubottutomreyn \o/: Cookies are delicious delicacies.13:19
EriC^^!cookie | tomreyn13:19
ubottutomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!13:19
tomreyn;-)13:19
vincenzomlok but can I send a coin to ubottu for a coffee too?13:19
JonelethIrenicushow can i repair systemd boot to add a windows NVMe UEFI drive?13:19
EriC^^JonelethIrenicus: can you explain what you're trying to do, the backstory?13:20
jeremy31JonelethIrenicus: are you actually using systemd boot rather than grub?13:20
JonelethIrenicusjeremy31: yes13:25
JonelethIrenicusEriC^^: i am trying to optionally boot from an additional drive which already has Windows installed.13:25
tomreynJonelethIrenicus: can you run this and post the url it returns?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)13:26
JonelethIrenicusLinux version 5.0.0-13-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-020) (gcc version 8.3.0 (Ubuntu 8.3.0-6ubuntu1)) #14-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 15 14:59:14 UTC 201913:28
JonelethIrenicusinitrd=\EFI\Pop_OS-aeb4dd26-4f54-4585-ad1b-dc0596fe7b96\initrd.img root=UUID=aeb4dd26-4f54-4585-ad1b-dc0596fe7b96 ro quiet loglevel=0 systemd.show_status=false splash13:28
EriC^^JonelethIrenicus: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-boot#Adding_loaders13:28
tomreynJoeLlama: Pop OS is not supported here.13:28
JonelethIrenicustomreyn: :(13:29
jeremy31JonelethIrenicus: you might be able to run the bootctl command like you did when you first installed systemd boot.  I know it will add windows from the same drive13:29
EriC^^JonelethIrenicus: the link above explains how to add multiple bootloaders to systemd, give it a check as well13:30
JonelethIrenicusok thanks fellas13:30
tomreynhere's how you can install Ubuntu and get support here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop13:31
tomreynin the meantime, there is ##linux13:31
JonelethIrenicustomreyn: pop-os is basically Ubuntu and their repos are even compatible with base Ubuntu13:32
tomreynJonelethIrenicus: it's not Ubuntu, though. It has central differences, such as the boot loader13:32
JonelethIrenicustomreyn: which honestly anyone on ubuntu could also switch to right?13:33
tomreynJonelethIrenicus: it's easy. you run ubuntu, you get support here, you don't run ubuntu, you'll need to look for support elsewhere.13:33
tomreyn(and this is not the first time you were told so.)13:33
JonelethIrenicusi am running ubuntu, but I had a popos installer and I get popOS repos which are much better support for Nvidia drivers and CUDA13:33
JimBuntuJonelethIrenicus, it's not only tomreyn who believes that PopOS is not supported here, it's literal fact. Some may help you, but the conversation could also be shut down at any time.13:33
JonelethIrenicusvery small difference but ok13:33
JonelethIrenicuswell I will help people with any Ubuntu derivitive13:34
JimBuntuUsing non-Ubuntu repos is also not accepted, sorry.13:34
JonelethIrenicusJimBuntu: then that literally means every single PPA13:34
JimBuntuJonelethIrenicus, yes, it sure does13:34
JonelethIrenicushaha13:35
JonelethIrenicusnot realistic13:35
JimBuntuWell, I am not sure how long it has been this way, but it is currently. I don't want to keep posting in the support channel about this though. This kind of discussion is normally meant for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-ops if continued :-(13:36
JonelethIrenicusyeah its a fun conversation nonetheless13:36
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geodb27People : hi ! Is that normal that the installer jumps back to the initial screen when one fills in the search domains when configuring manually the ip address of the machine ? And the same when trying to alter the partition table preset when selecting "full disk with lvm" ?13:39
lotuspsychjegeodb27: ubuntu version please?13:40
geodb27Maybe wrong channel, sorry, this was meant for the server edition of ubuntu 18.04 LTS server.13:40
leftyfbgeodb27: I think that's a known bug with the live installer13:40
leftyfbgeodb27: try the classic installer13:40
geodb27Oh... I didn't know there were two kinds of installer... I'll check this out. Thanks leftyfb !13:41
leftyfbgeodb27: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/release/ubuntu-18.04.2-server-amd64.iso13:41
geodb27That's the one I have !13:41
tomreyngeodb27: no, you have the live-server one13:41
geodb27Oh, seen ! I read too quickly ! Thank you so much !13:42
tomreyngeodb27: you can actually switch to a different tty on the one you have now, and run: sudo snap refresh13:42
leftyfbtomreyn: ah, the fix has been released?13:43
geodb27I'll give a try to the live installer !13:43
tomreynleftyfb: it's on the snap store.13:43
geodb27Grrr... To the classic one...13:43
tomreyngeodb27: if you snap refresh this should work13:43
tomreynn need to re-download13:43
tomreyn*no need13:44
leftyfbtomreyn: yeah, I understand that. I didn't know they fixed that particular bug in the installer13:44
geodb27I guess I can't go to another terminal : I try to setup a virtual machine... So, there are not many ttys as on a bare machine.13:44
tomreynleftyfb: that's from memory, i might be wrong, but it's easy to find out.13:44
tomreyngeodb27: usually, yes, but if you have some exotic virtualization, maybe that's so.13:45
geodb27Well, that's vmware, and the install is made from the vcenter.13:46
tomreynuse whatever works for you!13:46
tomreyn:)13:46
wishow can I connect to wifi with a wifi adapter on Ubuntu Core on RPI2? please discuss in #snappy if it's mandatory.13:48
leftyfbwis: yes, please seek support in #snappy13:48
geodb27I'll use the classic installer and I hope things well get fine. Thank you all for your kind help !13:49
tomreynyou're welcome, geodb2713:50
filip123hello, I'd like to ask what are the effective differences between debian, ubuntu, and ubuntu derivates (like kubuntu and mint). So anything not related to how it looks13:56
lotuspsychje!derivatives | filip12313:56
ubottufilip123: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)13:56
filip123oh sorry13:57
ryuofilip123: I can answer that for you. PM?13:57
leftyfbfilip123: ryuo: this sort of discussion is great for #ubuntu-offtopic13:58
Battlehello all, so I woke to find 2500 bounce back emails sitting in my inbox, checked postfix and found 50,000 pending emails, from what I have investigated I can see that 2 unique IP addresses appear to have succesfully logged into one of the mailboxes and generated this spam... what concerns me is how they got the password in the first place... it is a unique hard to guess password and I saw no14:14
Battleevidence of failed attempts (brute force) it just was login and boom , it seems they ran a test email first as there was some pause between the spam starting and their first email sent out14:14
BattleI have completely locked down the server but I'm wondering what would you all recommend I do at this stage?14:15
BattleI have changed all account passwords, locked off login attempts entirely to the mail server unless it is from a specific IP address (mine) so there's no chance of the spam again but I want to make sure they cannot get into the system somne other way if thats possible?14:16
lordcirth__Battle, if they had the password of a user, could they have ssh'd in?14:16
ChunkzZis there a massive difference in terms of speed for an ubuntu server? the specs I'm using aren't great....14:16
lordcirth__ChunkzZ, vs Windows, you mean?14:16
ChunkzZlordcirth__, vs 18 LTS.14:17
lordcirth__ChunkzZ, 18.04 LTS vs what? 19.04?14:17
ChunkzZ19.04 yeah. sorry.14:17
lordcirth__No, you're not likely to see a difference in performance in general usage.14:17
Battlelordcirth__ this is possible however, i do not believe they have done that. the port is not default firstly and I automatically get notifeid of any SSH logins which I did not , I can also see that when I checked previous ssh logins, and 'history' for commands entered its all just me14:18
EriC^^Battle: maybe the person whose login they had shared the password or he did it possibly?14:19
lordcirth__Battle, do you have any idea how the password could have been leaked?14:19
Battleno that person is me, it was one my inboxes14:19
BattleI cannot see how it could of14:20
Battlebut14:20
Battleit is worth noting that maybe 6months? a website I was registered with was compromised...and the passwords/emails were leaked in plain text14:20
lordcirth__Battle, and this was the same password? I thought you said it was unique?14:20
Battleever since then, various places the I happened to use that email and password on...were taken over (and fixed by me) or security alerts of blocked logins were sent to me at which point i fixed those, 90% of these were places that werent important...14:21
Battlethe odd thing is , I did not use this password on this account...14:21
Battleno, this account did not use the password that were compromised14:22
Battleonce i found out about the other website being compromised, I went through and changed all important account passwords (even those that were not the compromised one)14:22
Battlejust for good measure14:22
Battlethe password on this mailbox was never in that leak, this is why it is confusing...14:23
lordcirth__Battle, I see. Any other internet-facing services that could have been compromised? A webserver?14:23
tewardBattle: ever hear of "brute forcers"?14:23
teward^ that's also a possibility someone actively attacked your server with various dictionary attacks, etc. in a bruteforcing mechanism14:23
tewardOR something else on-server had avulnerability they exploited to get it14:23
tewardthere's any of ten billion potential mechanisms they could've breached your credentials with14:24
EriC^^Battle: do you have any services running on the server?14:24
Battleteward: brute force yes and I don't believe this is how they got in , there were no prior bursts of failed attempts followed by succesful14:26
Battleit was just out of the blue, succesfull14:26
Battleso i dont think this is brute force, at least it does not seem like it14:27
Battlelordcirth__ I do have a webserver running14:27
JimBuntuBattle, is this basically a VM on 3rd party hardware? If so, possibly a simple Spectre application14:28
Battlelordcirth__ but i cant see connection between compromising something there and gaining a password for a mailbox. by that i mean i dont have this particular password anywhere on that webserver and if they compromised the web server wouldnt they gain access to the account running the webserver 'www-data' I think? and use that to spam emails rather than a seperate account?14:29
BattleI can see how they might change the password for amailbox perhaps.....www-data is almost like root isnt it? so could it 'passwd' on an account?14:30
EriC^^Battle: no, it's not like root, it can't do passwd <some other user>14:30
Battleah okay good14:31
Battleso i think then if they compromised the web, they would just use that to spam do you reckon?14:31
Battleso i think the website is okay?14:31
leftyfbBattle: they could and would14:31
JimBuntuNothing is OK, Battle. They had root access for some amount of time... they could have made many, many changes and covered their tracks, sorry.14:32
leftyfbBattle: also, depending on the compromise, there is 100% no way for you to determine if it was compromised. Proper scripts will wipe their tracks.14:32
Battlethats what i thought leftyfb14:32
leftyfbBattle: if they had root, game over. Wipe and reinstall14:32
Battleyeah thats my concern leftyfb =\14:32
Battlealso its a dedicated server, not a vm14:33
leftyfbBattle: not one you should be taking lightly or debating. Just wipe and reinstall14:33
qwebirc59339afternoon14:33
Battleis there anyway to constantly monitor any command being entered into terminal by any means and send an email ?14:33
Battle(im thinking after my format)14:33
Battleim most likely going to upgrade to ubuntu 18 after this format14:34
leftyfbBattle: spend more energy on preventing the exploits14:34
qwebirc59339wonder if anyone knows where the system wide proxy setting is? checked /etc/environment and it doesnt seem to be there14:34
Battleyeah thats what i want to asscertain now, what i can do to stop this happenign again14:34
BattleI know i will lock down the mail server like it is now14:34
Battleso no one can login or brute force period14:34
leftyfbBattle: only allow SSL connections for email, only https for web and only ssh key authentication (no passwords).14:35
Battleleftyfb yeah, I think I need to switch to key auth14:35
Battlethere's just one concern, im not always at home when I need to access the server's ssh14:35
leftyfbBattle: but yes, as much logging as possible is good. Though, an exploit through a web protocol isn't going to log anything, not to the point that the exploit can't wipe the log14:35
lordcirth__Battle, consider running only a VPN, keys only, exposed, and block everything else14:36
EriC^^can't something like apparmor or so restrict what users can do?14:36
EriC^^(and audit and whatnot)14:36
Battlehmm14:36
lordcirth__Yes, apparmor can help. But it's not perfect.14:37
leftyfbEriC^^: I think in theory apparmor should be able to. I don't have much experience with it. Though I do have lots of experience with grsec and nothing is getting through that if setup properly. I've seen the attempts first-hand.14:37
EriC^^nice14:37
EriC^^Battle: if you usually dont login from home, could it be a physical attack? just logging in sounds so peculiar14:38
EriC^^they'd have to compromise the webserver, get root, then setup something to snatch your password or something, to just login, in which case they wouldnt really need your password in the first place14:39
leftyfbBattle: take an image of your machine, wipe it, reinstall. Get it running again and run forensics on the image later if you still need to track down what happened14:40
leftyfbBattle: in the meantime, there's a good chance you're still compromised and allowing malicious traffic to come from your machine14:40
BattleEriC^^: Physical as in someone at the datacenter did it?14:41
EriC^^Battle: like either the password got leaked somehow, or where you logged in had some sort of keylogger14:41
Battleleftyfb I checked out traffic and there's nothing that isnt accouted for from what i can tell, and I was watching SSH login attempts since this all happened, and no attempts have been made so far either14:42
legreffierleftyfb: it's perfectly ok to have your ssh key on a usb key or on some cloud storage if it has a good passphrase.14:42
EriC^^maybe they compromised the server, and bruteforce cracked the mail's password?14:42
EriC^^that's also a possibility i guess, i'm not too familiar with any of this stuff tbh14:43
EriC^^i mean they cracked the hash, then logged in successfully14:43
leftyfbBattle: regardless, we're well beyond the scope of this support channel. Wipe and reinstall. That is your answer.14:44
legreffierleftyfb: so attacker can use the exact same method and come back in ?14:47
legreffierBattle: what other service does the owned box provides ?14:47
legreffiersome web services ?14:48
JimBuntu##Linux-offtopic is nice and quiet if anyone wants to continue the Battle discussion ;-D14:49
Battleleftyfb I agree, thank you all for the input that you've provided, I was intending to format as good measure but just wanted to know what steps I should take to stop this happening again if there's even anything more that could be done etc I know that its impossible to 100% protect yourself but14:50
Battleyeah, thank you all again :)14:50
EriC^^Battle: i'd make it very secure as suggested, and also on the side try to implement apparmor or something that can restrict any unwanted commands to be run by users, maybe just a whitelist of commands the webserver needs for www-data etc14:51
EriC^^just my 2 cents, i'm not expert on the matter14:51
Battleappreciate the advice, I remember hearing 'apparmour' before but had/have no idea what it is or how to use it , but im sure i can figure it out :D14:52
BattleI do have a question about ssh key auth, if this is setup, does this mean that there's no possible way they can gain ssh access?14:52
rypervencheBattle: Outside of an exploit/vulnerability, no. They need to have the correct key that is allowed on the machine.14:53
Battleokay, I will have to implement this aswell14:54
qwebirc55868tomreyn:14:54
qwebirc55868Hello, you there14:54
legreffierBattle: bear in mind, if auth.log doesn't have many failed attempts, and the password is sane, there's very little chance ssh was the vector.14:55
leftyfbqwebirc55868: do you have a support question?14:57
leftyfblegreffier: that is 100% not true14:57
leftyfblegreffier: it is beyond trivial to wipe out a log entry immediately upon connection14:58
qwebirc55868Hello leftyfb, I kinda do and I kinda don't15:00
qwebirc55868I've been talking with tomr for a while about this15:01
qwebirc55868And I had to wait a week and a half before proceedingž15:01
qwebirc55868leftyfb: If you want a long, support case, let me know haha, it get's messy and also, hard to explain15:04
leftyfbqwebirc55868: if it's been a week, someone here that was helping you might not remember your issue completely. You might want to start over with explaining the current issue as your case stands now. I wouldn't go too far into what issues were previously that have since been resolved.15:05
BluesKajqwebirc55868, try us, but make it as simple as possible15:06
qwebirc55868He is super efficient and really nice even though I am not very... well versed15:06
qwebirc55868okay, writting up a summary15:07
leftyfbqwebirc55868: use pastebin if it's long15:07
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BluesKajleftyfb, methinks it is15:14
qwebirc55868well, leftyfb BluesKaj 1200 characters15:14
qwebirc55868an essay haha15:14
qwebirc55868will use pastebin15:14
BluesKajthink i'll have an early lunch15:15
qwebirc55868https://pastebin.com/d7kxYfB715:15
qwebirc55868have a nice lunch!15:15
qwebirc55868What do you think leftyfb?15:20
lotuspsychjeqwebirc55868: what do you want to do first now?15:28
lotuspsychjeqwebirc55868: recover files? singleboot? dualboot?15:28
qwebirc55868well I have only one goal in mind, to recover files. Not sure which route to take on at this point lotuspsychje15:29
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | qwebirc55868 sudo photorec after15:29
ubottuqwebirc55868 sudo photorec after: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-3build2 (bionic), package size 391 kB, installed size 1530 kB15:29
qwebirc55868I think I ran something like that, like a Diary or something15:30
qwebirc55868I am not really sure what you mean but I can try running it in Terminal15:30
lotuspsychjeqwebirc55868: photorec is great data recovery program, so if you want data back, id reccomend to full scan your hd and recover to another media15:31
qwebirc55868that's great, but does it support the M.2 SSD? lotuspsychje15:33
* zette 15:34
lotuspsychjeqwebirc55868: photorec can recover from different media, hd, ssd, sd,..15:34
analogicalhow do I use the dd command to wipe the mbr/gpt on a drive?15:34
qwebirc55868err sure, if it works15:35
qwebirc55868let me boot into Ubuntu15:35
qwebirc55868takes a bit15:35
obiwahnhi15:36
EriC^^analogical: for mbr dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=115:36
obiwahnanyone here who can guide in building a package15:36
EriC^^analogical: gpt you want exactly the gpt nothing after?15:36
obiwahnI would like to build a newer binutils for 16.04. So that it can be used in travis.15:37
hegemoOnhello there, i have issue with BLE bt device.15:38
hegemoOni can connect to it with normal user, using gatttool15:38
leftyfbobiwahn: try #ubuntu-devel15:38
hegemoOnbut unable to connect to it from chromium or even nodejs espruino module15:38
hegemoOnis there something im missing ?15:38
hegemoOnon 19.0415:39
hegemoOnbut same on 18.0415:39
hegemoOnfor a summary of all my adventures, it is there : http://forum.espruino.com/conversations/333421/15:40
ranndhello all15:42
JohnGavrrannd, hello15:43
zetterannd: Hello too15:43
ranndwhen I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade # I obtain this error : The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:15:44
rannd  libappstream315:44
ranndI'm using 16.04 lts15:44
qwebirc55868literal takes15:44
qwebirc5586815 minutes to load15:44
zetterannd: check ur repository15:45
voii want to use a usb stick with both ubuntu and windows, but need to copy files > 4GB on it. what file system should i use for it?15:45
lotuspsychjevoi: ntfs15:45
zettentfs15:46
lordcirth__rannd, that's not an error?15:46
voithanks15:46
ranndUse 'apt autoremove' to remove it.15:47
rannd0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.15:47
EriC^^qwebirc55868: is it a live usb or an install?15:47
ranndwhere I may paste text ?15:47
EriC^^!paste | rannd15:47
ubotturannd: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:47
qwebirc55868live usb EriC^^15:48
qwebirc55868it loaded15:48
qwebirc55868lotuspsychje: how do I install such an app15:48
EriC^^qwebirc55868: ah cool, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here15:48
EriC^^qwebirc55868: photorec isnt required unless the filesystem is damaged and the 'book keeping' is messed up, it won't be needed in your case if you can see the fs fine in windows15:49
qwebirc55868let me open this chat on the damaged pc15:49
qwebirc55868ubuntu one15:49
ranndhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6ktkYbG2sH/15:49
ranndthese are my entry in /etc/apt/source.list15:50
ranndthere are the default entry for 16.0415:51
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CatzzyeHello Eric15:51
CatzzyeI am here now15:51
EriC^^rannd: if you're not using libappstream3 then you can let apt "auto-remove" it, it's not an issue15:51
EriC^^Catzzye: wb15:51
Catzzyecould you please paste what you wanted me to enter to terminal one more time15:52
EriC^^rannd: you probably had something that depended on it and installed it, then removed that main app, so now it's in the unneeded auto-remove packages15:52
EriC^^Catzzye: sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 999915:52
ranndEriC^^, I ran apt auto-remove , but is the same15:52
EriC^^rannd: how do you mean? it still mentions it if you install another app?15:53
EriC^^rannd: did it mention removing it when you did sudo apt-get autoremove?15:54
Catzzyehttps://termbin.com/1mf3 EriC^^ tomreyn15:54
CatzzyeI found it15:54
ranndEriC^^, all started from apt-get build-dep nmap , to compile nmap source15:54
CatzzyeIts the hidden NTFS one15:54
Catzzyeactually no15:54
EriC^^Catzzye: are you sure? that's usually a manufacturers partition related to diagnostic tools15:54
Catzzyethat not it15:54
Catzzyethats just the partition I made from my HD to put W10 on15:55
ranndhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYJMMvS4ZV/15:55
EriC^^Catzzye: how big was the fs?15:55
Catzzye128GB Eric15:55
ranndhow am I solve this situation ?15:55
CatzzyeSoo probably around 120GB realistacally15:56
rannd!dpkg15:56
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.15:56
EriC^^Catzzye: right it was a nvme that's 128gb right? no other partitions16:00
ranndaptitude install libgtk2.0-dev ?16:00
Catzzyeyeah nvme m.216:00
EriC^^Catzzye: if ubuntu is having trouble finding the nvme, the easiest thing to do in my opinion if you want to get it asap would be to use the windows installer since you said it seems the files, and in the installer use the command prompt option, use diskpart to mount it to E: as well as your main drive to C: for instance and then use 'cp E:\....file C:\file'16:01
EriC^^*it sees16:01
Catzzyexd16:03
Catzzyewhat haha16:03
ranndThe following packages have unmet dependencies:16:03
rannd builddeps:nmap : Depends: libgtk2.0-dev but it is not going to be installed16:03
rannd                  Depends: liblinear-dev but it is not going to be installed16:03
rannd                  Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed16:03
ranndwhat is this ?16:03
EriC^^rannd: please dont paste here, you already gave a link16:03
EriC^^Catzzye: what's the issue? :D16:03
Catzzyeyou meann err when I engage the W10 installation to head into the command prompt instead and than remount from C to E?16:03
CatzzyeI am just trying to wrap my head around this sorry16:04
EriC^^Catzzye: yeah during the installation, before everything you can go to additional options or something, then command prompt, there use diskpart to mount the 2 volumes and copy the file16:04
Catzzye2 volumes?16:04
EriC^^Catzzye: https://winaero.com/blog/open-command-prompt-boot-windows-10/16:04
Catzzyeyeah yeah I remember that trick16:05
ranndok16:05
ranndhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TBV534sBqX/16:05
EriC^^Catzzye: yes, the 128gb one, and the place you want to copy it to16:05
Catzzyeokay, I can try!16:05
ranndhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RD24fr5GT5/16:07
ranndnothing to do16:07
Catzzyeokay I have to switch PCs again16:08
Catzzyesoo please let me know again in a minute what should I Do16:08
Catzzyethanks!16:09
EriC^^Catzzye: alright16:09
EriC^^no problem16:09
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rander2ok not I'm logged in16:10
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Catzzye2Hello!16:10
EriC^^hello16:11
zetteHello16:11
EriC^^Catzzye2: let me know once you're at the command prompt16:13
leftyfbCatzzye2: this is really a #windows support issue at this point. Ask them how to copy your files to a backup drive using a Windows installer usb16:13
Catzzye2well I am in command prompt, but I am not sure if we should continue here16:17
Catzzye2I don't wanna wreck the rules16:17
leftyfbCatzzye2: /join #windows16:17
zetteLonely :(16:19
martind_Hello guys, I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm trying to setup the workstation for web development. And I have trouble setup SublimeText3 with Sass. Could anyone help me with it? I have everything installed, but on Build I get [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sass'16:20
lotuspsychje!alis > zette16:20
ubottuzette, please see my private message16:20
martind_And I'm pretty sure sass is nstalled as I get martind@martind-ubuntu:~$ sass --version16:20
martind_1.19.0 compiled with dart2js 2.2.016:20
martind_What I do wrong?16:21
Catzzye2well I joined Windows16:21
Catzzye2should I just take this to someone there?16:21
rander2what is the more little ubuntu distribution, ubuntu server ?16:21
zetteubottu: How I see ur private msg?16:21
ubottuzette: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:21
EriC^^Catzzye2: yeah, say you want to use diskpart to mount the nvme volume and the other volume and copy your file from nvme to the other16:22
rander2I'm looking for a only text ubuntu distribution, and after ( eventually_) install X server16:22
plattkatt maybe debian?:)16:22
EriC^^Catzzye2: just say that in the channel, somebody should offer some assistance, if not i can probably help you in ##linux or here if nobody minds, it's basically a couple of commands16:22
zetteubottu: u r bot? :/16:23
ubottuzette: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:23
idlemindCatzzye2 you could always just try a bootable windows pe iso - not sure if it would detect the drive either though. https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/16:23
bit3_p0_👌16:24
zetteLonely :'(16:24
[itchyjunk]what's the difference between `sudo apt install` and `sudo apt-get install` ?16:24
EriC^^rander2: there's the mini iso which only installs what you ask it to, very minimal, and the server install iso if you want16:24
EriC^^[itchyjunk]: apt is just a neater more evolved front end for apt-get,but it isn't really script compatible right now16:25
[itchyjunk]hmm what does script compatible mean?16:26
EriC^^[itchyjunk]: basically it gives colors, a nicer progress bar, and some other features16:26
[itchyjunk]ahh i see16:26
Catzzye2if you don't mind we can query eric16:28
EriC^^Catzzye2: sure16:28
zetteWhy I cnt using "./c configure && make" command?16:39
Blackfieldhello, I am a complete begin and wish to unstall latex so I can use it with vim. Before I used Texworks16:45
Blackfieldon windows16:45
Blackfield-beginner16:45
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EriC^^!info latex16:50
ubottuPackage latex does not exist in bionic16:50
jmicheltexlive16:51
EriC^^Blackfield: type 'sudo apt-get install texlive-full'16:51
BlackfieldI already did that16:51
Blackfieldshould I got to latex channel?16:51
Blackfieldgo16:51
EriC^^Blackfield: what's the problem?16:52
BlackfieldEriC^^: well after doing that I can just write in vim as if it was texworks?16:53
ioria!info vim-latexsuite16:53
ubottuvim-latexsuite (source: vim-latexsuite): view, edit and compile LaTeX documents from within Vim. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.9.0-1 (bionic), package size 204 kB, installed size 724 kB16:53
BlackfieldI'm not technical at all, I study physics xD16:53
EriC^^Blackfield: try installing the package ioria referred to above16:54
Blackfieldokay16:54
Blackfieldme downloading the packages using to command you recommended won't be a problem right?16:55
BustinHello, I have a Lenovo ideapad 330 15ICH - which contains an onboard Intel UHD 630 grahpics card, and dedicated Nvidia GTX 1050. I would like to utilize the dedicated (nvidia) card all the time (there is no bios switch to do so, only switchable and onboard within), is there a way to achieve this, and eliminate screen tearing?16:55
EriC^^Blackfield: yeah command line is the same basically16:56
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lotuspsychjeBustin: wich driver are you currently using?16:56
Blackfieldcan I abort the installation somehow? it makes no sense to download all the packages16:57
Blackfieldif I only use like 20 max16:58
lordcirth__Blackfield, if it is still downloading, not installing, you can safely use Ctrl-C to abort16:59
Blackfielddoesn't work :D well thanks anyway17:00
lordcirth__But unless your internet is expensive, I would just let it17:00
JohnGavrAnyone else hear a bip when stop music on external audio speakers?17:01
kadiroheh17:02
kadiroJohnGavr, I think that related to the player you use17:03
JohnGavrkadiro, spotify, vlc, youtube17:03
JohnGavrall the players?17:03
refhackhi world17:03
zettehi too world17:03
kadirohi refhack17:03
kadiroJohnGavr, hmm thats weird17:04
refhackhow are you todayv"kadiro"17:04
kadiroI'm good thanks refhack17:07
JohnGavrkadiro, so weird... first time see that...17:07
kadiroJohnGavr, is that for all videos/musics files or a specific audio file?17:09
JohnGavrall the video/music17:09
JohnGavri hear a bip after 4-5 sec17:09
zette:(17:10
zetteubottu: u r bot? :/17:10
ubottuzette: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:10
kadiroJohnGavr, check this https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sound-alert.html.en17:11
kadironot sure if it is related to your problem though17:11
JohnGavrkadiro, no it's not an alert sound17:12
JohnGavrIt's sounds like disable music driver17:12
JohnGavri use hdmi... you think its hdmi problem??17:13
JohnGavrI will try another when i have the opportunity17:13
ekhHello, I am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 on VMWware Fusion, but I keep getting "no root file system is defined". The thing is, I am not given any option prior to that or even to partition the hdd17:14
kadiroIt sound like the pcspkr driver is loaded, try may be to blacklist it17:15
JohnGavrcan you give me more info or a post?? i am totally noob on audio driver configuration17:16
JohnGavrI'm just know the basics17:16
kadiroJohnGavr, to check if that driver is loaded use this command: lsmod | grep pcspkr17:16
kadiroif it doe not show anything then the driver is not loaded17:16
JohnGavrno results17:17
kadirohmm17:17
JohnGavrso weird17:17
EriC^^ekh: are you sure the iso is good? checksummed? i'm assuming you mean 19.04 btw right?17:18
ekhEriC^^: 9.04. iso from ubuntu server. I'll check the checksum now.17:18
lordcirth__ekh, 9.04 was a decade ago.17:18
ekhI am aware of that. Following pen test book.17:19
lordcirth__Oh, I see17:19
lordcirth__ekh, well, that's not supported here, sorry17:19
ekhlordcirth__: I understand. I'd really appreciate if you can provide any tips. I can manage by myself with linux, but the fact this installation isn't providing me with any options is what frustrates me.17:21
kadiroIs not karmic version no longer used?17:21
lordcirth__ekh, you could try changing the virtualized hardware to imitate older stuff?17:21
EriC^^ekh: usually no root filesystem found sounds like a bad iso, usually that happens as well if the usb is bad on barebone install attempts17:23
EriC^^i'd think the hardware isnt related since the bootloader has the job of mounting everything17:23
EriC^^well not really the bootloader but you know what i mean :D17:24
ekhmd5 checksum is fine17:26
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Bustinlotuspsychje: 418, and I am experiencing horrible screen tearing. If I use my onboard (intel uhd 630) card, there is little to no tearing. That being said, I need / want to utilize my dedicated card at all times.17:28
Bustin^ nvidia driver version. I have already tried other versions, and those also produce a lot of screen tearing.17:29
lotuspsychjeBustin: 418 from stock or ppa?17:29
Bustinlotuspsychje: yes17:29
Bustinsec17:29
Bustinproprietary, tested 41817:29
lotuspsychjeBustin: did you try drivers from the ubuntu graphics ppa?17:30
Bustinlotuspsychje: not yet, no.17:30
lotuspsychje!nvidia | Bustin17:30
ubottuBustin: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa17:30
lotuspsychjeBustin: for GTX cards we reccomend17:30
lotuspsychjeBustin: for example the 418.56 is on there17:32
lotuspsychjeBustin: test drivers out until you get a smooth experience, if your card uses optimus set nvidia-settings to performance mode to use your nvidia card17:35
Bustinlotuspsychje: thank you.17:37
JohnGavranyone knows how to configure the HDMI options?17:48
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gorskilinux for human beings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKx4Rag680g17:49
Catzzye2tomreyn: Hey with a help of a EriC^^ we got the files off!!! crazyy!! it seems like maybe M.2 nvme thing didn't die after all17:49
Catzzye2because the files are making a robocopy17:49
tomreyn!cookie | Imagine this in blue color, EriC^^17:50
ubottuImagine this in blue color, EriC^^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:50
Catzzye2tomreyn: you're hereee17:51
EriC^^lol blue why? xD windows theme?17:51
tomreynCatzzye2: congratulations. :)17:51
Catzzye2you two are super sweet, thank you both so much17:51
EriC^^damn you, now i want some blueberry goodies17:52
EriC^^:)17:52
Catzzye2=)17:52
nabukadnezar43hello i'm using ubuntu budgie 19.04, everytime i start my pc after a shutdown it performs fsck on 1 disk17:54
nabukadnezar43any idea what may be the cause?17:54
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lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, what exactly are you seeing?17:55
tomreynnabukadnezar43: you storage may be physically decayed beyond repair, or your file system settings may be wrong,17:55
nabukadnezar43https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VSVSHPf74B/17:56
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, What line is the fsck? I don't see it17:57
lotuspsychjenabukadnezar43: share your full dmesg please17:57
tomreyni.e. the one without "...skipping..."17:59
tomreynnabukadnezar43: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999917:59
nabukadnezar43here it is: https://termbin.com/nafj18:01
nabukadnezar43it tells last mount time is in the future, that's weird18:02
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, your hardware clock is set wrong. Are you dual-booting?18:03
nabukadnezar43lordcirth__, no i'm not18:03
nabukadnezar43i used to have arch before ubuntu18:03
nabukadnezar43lordcirth__, how do i fix it? hwclock --systohc?18:04
dnscati heard arch is a lot of compiling18:04
lotuspsychjeofftopic dnscat18:04
Bustinlotuspsychje: sorry for the highlight, i've tried every single driver version in the PPA, all have horrible screen tearing for me. I did read somewhere about "Reverse PRIME", are you familiar with it?18:04
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, first check:  timedatectl | grep TZ18:05
lordcirth__If that's "yes" then: sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc 018:05
nabukadnezar43lordcirth__, it says "no"18:05
lotuspsychjeBustin: reverse prime?18:05
lordcirth__Ok, so that's not the problem18:05
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, perhaps your CMOS battery is dying?18:05
nabukadnezar43lordcirth__, i'm on a laptop without a battery18:06
nabukadnezar43would that be the cause?18:06
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, normal battery != CMOS battery18:06
lotuspsychjeBustin: where do you test the screen tearing exactly?18:06
nabukadnezar43i know that, just a thought18:07
Bustinlotuspsychje: moving windows, opening the application dash, scrolling on web pages. I can see a HUGE difference from using the onboard intel card, and then using the dedicated.18:07
nabukadnezar43that little battery on the motherboard18:07
lotuspsychjeBustin: that doesnt sound too bright, sudo lshw -C video plz?18:08
ekhEriC^^, lordcirth__ thanks it works. changing the virtualized hw to older stuff did the trick.18:08
nabukadnezar43lordcirth__, the thing is when i restart it doesn't fsck, but it does fsck after a start from a long powered off state18:08
lordcirth__ekh, cool18:09
lordcirth__nabukadnezar43, restarting probably doesn't drain the CMOS battery18:09
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Bustinlotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/sQy3Qc9f18:09
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lotuspsychjeekh: pentesting on a 10y old book & Os wont help you much for todays security18:10
lotuspsychjeBustin: and your ubuntu version?18:10
Bustinlotuspsychje: 19.0418:11
lotuspsychjeBustin: did you compare this with LTS?18:11
ekhlotuspsychje: I'll keep that in mind. At least I'll get the basics rather than guessing what each terminology means. Beside, I don't feel like buying a new book, this one is on my shelf, might as well use it :P18:11
lotuspsychjeekh: also pentesting an EOL ubuntu server wont proof much neither18:11
Bustinlotuspsychje: no I have not. I mean, formatting and/or installing LTS isn't too much, since I haven't done anything on this install as of yet. Would you recommend formatting / installing alongside and comparing tearing18:13
lotuspsychjeBustin: try a liveusb 18.04 to see if you have it there18:14
BustinWill do and will report back. It's a shame, love Ubuntu, but the graphics hardware tradeoff for me sucks ( i do video editing, graphic design, amongst other things), so losing the dedicated to the onbard just to avoid tearing, or having a smooth experience, isn't ideal!18:16
lotuspsychjeBustin: keep in mind non-lts can have unwanted behaviour18:16
BustinYea, had a lot of issues on a non LTS, prior to 19.0418:17
lotuspsychjeBustin: if you compare with LTS and works there, feel free to create a new bug on 19.04 or use existing one18:18
lotuspsychjeBustin: did you also test a very latest driver from the ppa?18:21
Bustinlotuspsychje: yes, 418, and 430.18:22
lotuspsychjeBustin: ok tnx18:22
Bustinwill brb.18:22
sri-helikoptercek18:22
suciipape18:23
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lotuspsychjeBustin: while you try things perhaps also share your dmesg, volunteers might find something there18:25
OerHeksudin, ahmad what is the reason for this double login?18:26
udinyes18:27
Bustin_lotuspsychje: on 18.04 live usb. Now, ootb, it defaults to use the onboard nvidia, but if I add the PPA, install drivers, how to test nvidia functionality if it's requiring a restart, settings will revert18:27
Bustin_i mean, defaults to use the onboard intel* my bad.18:28
Bustin_brb18:32
admin9ola18:41
hggdhadmin9: hello, can we help you?18:42
admin9how do i create a own channel18:43
admin9on this hexchat18:43
lordcirth__admin9, on this server, freenode? Or your own server?18:44
OerHeksadmin9, register with #freenode and ask help in their channel?18:44
admin9can be on the this server or my own server18:44
admin9ok m seeking for it @OerHeks18:45
mrarmHello, what is the alternative of libegl1-mesa-drivers:i386 on newer releases of Ubuntu?18:48
OerHeksalternative? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libegl1-mesa18:49
OerHeksas of Xenial., that -driver package is a dummy https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libegl1-mesa-drivers18:50
qwebirc37076hi18:52
qwebirc37076hello18:52
Bashing-omqwebirc37076: Your ubuntu support question ?18:54
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kiwi_91hi18:55
oopuguinΙ use 18.04LTS o AMDAPU, to build vaapi acceleration is very easily.18:56
kiwi_91my xrdp does not listen on port 3389, what could be wrong18:56
oopuguinX windows engine userd by cinnamon.18:56
kiwi_91oopuguin any ideas how to start xrdp?18:57
kiwi_91i tried sudo service xrdp restart18:57
oopuguinaa...to use remote desktop?18:58
oopuguinwait a minute please.18:58
kiwi_91yeah18:59
kiwi_91i have access to the ssh18:59
pawswhy is it that ubuntu will not accept any incoming connection whether is on ssh or http? ufw status shows as inactive18:59
kiwi_91need to install xrdp to connect via remote desktop18:59
ryuopaws: that's the default when no services are using a given port.19:00
kiwi_91i installed it but it is not listening to 3389 port for some reasons19:00
pawsryuo: so how can i make it to allow ssh port 2219:00
ryuopaws: ... enable an ssh server?19:00
pawsyea19:00
oopuguinSorry, i found japanese resources. you only read source code, your wish will come true. https://cpoint-lab.co.jp/article/201806/3238/19:01
pawsryuo: sudo service ssh status shows that its Active: active (running)19:01
ryuopaws: ss -ltn | grep :2219:02
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pawsLISTEN 0 128 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* ||| LISTEN 0 128 [::]:22 [::]:*19:03
pawsthats the two lines i see19:03
ryuopaws: are you able to connect from localhost?19:03
oopuguinsudo vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config19:03
pawswhen i am on the server itself and i do "ssh user@192.168.0.100" yea it connects me19:04
oopuguini don't recommend to use port 2219:04
mrarmOerHeks, exactly becuase it's a dummy I am asking this question19:04
ryuowait... it's behind NAT?19:04
pawsyea19:04
mrarmthe libegl1-mesa-drivers:i386 package went missing but the libs are missing19:04
ryuopaws: where's the remote client in relation to this server?19:04
mrarmI am currently using libegl1-mesa-dev:i386 as a workaround but that's ugly19:05
pawssame network19:05
ryuopaws: same LAN?19:05
pawsyea19:05
ryuopaws: and what error do you get?19:05
pawsputty, just says Network error: connection refused19:05
ryuodo you have the correct host?19:06
pawsyea19:06
pawsi type the ip not the host19:06
ryuothat should suffice, but i can't verify it.19:06
pawsthe ubuntu can ping google.ca no issues19:06
pawsso there is network there19:07
pawsit just not letting me ssh to it19:07
guimoHi. ifconfig up/down is inverted. I can power the LAN-port on with "ifconfig enp14s0 down", but the network-manager think its powered-off. How can I solve this?19:07
oopuguinsudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update, after "sudo apt get install va-driver-all"19:07
ryuo... that has nothing to do with being able to access the server.19:07
ryuopaws: if your client is on a remote network, NAT will prevent you from reachingi t.19:07
pawssame lan19:07
ryuoso you say, but what could be interferring?19:08
lordcirth__guimo, What Ubuntu version?19:08
pawsryuo: same thing happens when i try to connect to the apache.. it doesnt load19:08
pawsits like not accepting any connections19:08
ryuopaws: can you get the iptables output?19:09
leftyfbpaws: are these 2 physical machines on the same network or is one of them a VM of some sort?19:09
guimolordcirth__: xenial19:09
pawsthe ubuntu is on vmware esxi19:09
leftyfbpaws: Then I question whether it's actually on the same network19:09
ryuocould it be that the network setup isn't allowing it on the same network?19:09
leftyfbpaws: you are probably NAT'd unless you setup a bridged interface19:09
oopuguincurrently, we can get vaapi power19:10
pawsi have another freepbx machine on that same esxi host and on the same vm network, and i just tried to ssh to it and it didnt work19:10
leftyfbpaws: lets try this. What is the ip address of your ubuntu machine?19:10
paws192.168.0.8419:11
leftyfbpaws: ok, ping it from your Windows box.19:11
pawsReply from 192.168.0.84: bytes=32 time=631ms TTL=12819:11
leftyfbpaws: also, above you said you wre trying "ssh user@192.168.0.100"19:11
leftyfbpaws: shouldn't you be using .84?19:11
pawsi just typed 100 randomly19:11
pawsbut its 8419:11
leftyfbok19:11
leftyfbpaws: turn off the ubuntu machine completely. Then try pinging again19:12
pawsok19:12
pawsi just hit halt19:12
leftyfbpaws: and can you ping it from your windows machine?19:12
pawsPinging 192.168.0.84 with 32 bytes of data:19:13
pawsReply from 192.168.0.5: Destination host unreachable.19:13
pawsRequest timed out.19:13
leftyfbpaws: also, I just noticed you said you cannot ssh to your pbx machine either. Is that correct?19:14
leftyfbpaws: please don't paste more than 1 line here. Use pastebin for more than 1 or 2 lines.19:14
pawsfrom the pbx to the ubuntu19:14
pawssorry19:14
leftyfbpaws: can you ssh to the pbx from windows?19:14
pawsyes19:14
leftyfbpaws: how did you install Ubuntu? Where did you get the iso from?19:15
pawsfrom ubuntu.com it used to running well for a year or so19:15
pawsit just stopped recently and i made no changes on it whatsoever19:15
pawsi havent logged in on it for a while :)19:15
leftyfbpaws: bring it back up and lets do some more troubleshooting with it19:16
pawsits on19:16
leftyfbpaws: sudo lsof -i :2219:17
pawssshd 1914 root 3u IPv4 1938 050 TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)19:17
leftyfbpaws: can you ssh to yourself on the machine?19:18
pawssshd 1914 root 4u IPv6 1940 0t0 TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)19:18
pawsyou want me to ssh user@192.168.0.84 from the machine?19:18
leftyfbyes19:18
pawsyup, i enter the password and im in19:19
leftyfbpaws: sudo iptables -L -n # use pastebin19:19
pawsi type exit and i get Connection to 192.168.0.84 closed.19:19
pawshttps://pastebin.com/raw/ua95CE5B19:21
paws(i had to manually type it)19:21
leftyfbpaws: it's been a long time since I've played with vmware. Is there some mechanism to setup a firewall out of band from the guest VM's?19:21
pawsthere is no firewall i dont run anything on it19:21
leftyfbpaws: do you have another machine on the network that can run nmap?19:22
de-factoit might be behind a NAT?19:22
leftyfbde-facto: we already established it's not19:22
de-factook :)19:22
pawsyea19:24
pawsthe pbx19:24
leftyfbpaws: sudo nmap -p22 192.168.0.8419:24
pawshum19:25
pawsnow i can connect to it from my pbx19:25
paws5mins ago i could not..19:25
pawsmakes 0 sense19:25
paws22/tcp open ssh19:25
leftyfbpaws: try from putty19:26
pawsno go19:26
pipegeekHiya folks!  Question: is there any way to install e.g. libraries via Gnome Software?  I'm writing up instructions for people to configure our VPN, and was dismayed that it looks like searching for library package names there (for instance network-manager-l2tp) yields no results.19:27
leftyfbpaws: if you can ssh from the pbx but not from windows, it's either a windows problem or an ESXI or a network/vlan/nat problem. Not ubuntu.19:28
de-factois putty and pbx in the same network segment relative to the vmware?19:28
pipegeekIs the only way to install support l2tp support in gnome in a standard ubuntu install without opening a terminal?19:28
pipegeekerr, *is there any19:28
leftyfbpipegeek: the network-manager-l2tp is part of the universe repo19:28
leftyfbpipegeek: but yeah, the software center typically has mostly GUI and desktop applications19:29
pawsde-facto: yes they are19:30
pawsokay leftyfb i will investigate..19:30
de-factomaybe try to get error logs both from client and server if you can ssh to it from pbx19:30
pipegeekleftyfb, is there any gui way to install things that don't fit into that set?  I mean, network-manager-l2tp-gnome is a gui package, but not visible in Software19:31
leftyfbpipegeek: it's not a gui exactly. It's an extention to a gui application19:32
de-factopipegeek, why not bake a "pure meta package" like a dummy depending on all what you need and let them double click on that deb?19:33
pipegeekleftyfb, that's not a bad idea and I may19:33
pipegeekbut hmm... that's interesting.  Is there a piece of metadata on packages that determines whether or not Software exposes them?  Because I wonder if that's a bug that could be opened against that package19:34
leftyfbpipegeek: that's not a bug19:34
pipegeekinstalling the UI for supporting new VPN types seems like a relatively nontechnical thing, and something that end users might reasonably want to do through a gui19:34
leftyfbpipegeek: the software center does not list every single package19:34
pipegeekoh, yes, I know19:35
pipegeekI'm asking how software center makes the determination about which packages to make visible19:35
pipegeekand if it's based on metadata in the individual packages, whether that could be changed for the network-manager-.*-gnome packages19:36
pipegeekie, if it would be reasonable to open a feature request bug against those packages to make that request19:36
pipegeekbecause those seem like good candidates for exposure through Software19:36
pipegeek"L2TP Support for GNOME"19:37
leftyfbpipegeek: try #ubuntu-devel19:38
admin9#help19:39
pipegeekokie doke! thanks leftyfb :)19:39
admin9chanserv19:39
de-factoadmin9, http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html :)19:41
ioriapipegeek, it's an add-on of gnome control center19:48
ioriapipegeek, click on it and install19:49
pipegeekioria, AH!19:49
pipegeekI just saw it!  I didn't notice that that was a thing19:50
pipegeekthanks!19:50
ioriano problem19:50
pipegeekioria, sweeeet19:50
iorialol19:50
pipegeekhaha19:51
pipegeekanyway, thanks all, seeya later19:51
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electricityZZZZi'm trying to apt install python3.6-venv on an up to date install of ubuntu 18.04 but am getting this error message:  python3.6-venv : Depends: python3.6 (= 3.6.7-1~18.04) but 3.6.8-1+xenial1 is to be installed . any clues?20:11
lordcirth__electricityZZZZ, do you have any PPA's installed?20:12
electricityZZZZyeah i think so20:13
electricityZZZZhere's what i've got: https://paste.rs/vr920:14
electricityZZZZi've seen people talking about (potentially forcefully) uninstalling python 3.6 and then reinstalling. is that going to muck up my system state or should i try that?20:15
lordcirth__electricityZZZZ, I would not recommend that20:16
electricityZZZZyeah it looks like it wants to install a bunch of stuff20:16
OerHekspaste the output of: apt policy python320:16
electricityZZZZerr uninstall a bunch of stuff,... so what other ideas do you have then?20:16
OerHeksthat would give a clue where it came from20:16
electricityZZZZhere's apt policy python3    https://paste.rs/k4N20:17
OerHeksthat looks sound20:17
Exterminadorhi guys. before I go nuts, I had this issue with GCC trying to compile InspIRCd: https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd/issues/1623#issue-43976272820:17
electricityZZZZi think this is a longstanding install of 16.04 that i upgraded to 18.04,... i've run apt update & upgrade20:17
lordcirth__electricityZZZZ, what about apt full-upgrade?20:18
OerHeks^20:18
Exterminadorany ideas/hints? Xubuntu 18.04 LTS, updated today20:18
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: how did you upgrade it?20:18
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electricityZZZZsudo apt full upgrade gives me 0 to do across the board20:18
electricityZZZZi dont really remember i think that ubuntu asked me at some point and i was like sure what the hell i feel like trying a footgun ;)20:19
OerHeksExterminador, without proper info, nobody can .. and that issue has been answered :-D20:19
lordcirth__Exterminador, someone in ##programming might know?20:20
OerHeksor  #inspircd on irc.inspircd.org20:22
ExterminadorOerHeks, lordcirth__: main question is: 2 days ago it compiled flawlessly. but as I needed to change the installation paths, I've recompiled today and no spark  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯20:22
OerHeksoh, good to tell that after some answers..20:22
electricityZZZZ...should i just blow away my ubuntu install and start from scratch?20:23
OerHeksso, do you have any idea, Exterminador ?20:23
Exterminadorit compiles the IRCd well, untill it reaches that module. I'm already in touch with the InspIRCd team and they don't seem to know either. GCC is broken?20:23
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: you changed your apt sources between the error message you posted here initially occurred and when you ran "apt policy python3", giving tzhis output https://paste.rs/k4N20:24
tomreynkeep things stable or discuss what you're changing while you're geeting support here.20:25
electricityZZZZchanged my apt sources? i haven't changed my system at all during this discussion actually (to my knowledge)20:25
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: sorry, my mistake there, i mixed up python3 and python3.6-venv packages. please post:   apt policy python3.6-venv20:26
electricityZZZZhere i'll run it again: https://paste.rs/r2N20:26
electricityZZZZi posted that, if you scroll up. but i'll run that again and post it again, in the unlikely chance that something changed20:26
lordcirth__electricityZZZZ, no, you did 'apt policy python3', but we want 'apt policy python3.6-venv' now20:27
electricityZZZZhere, i ran it apt policy python3.6-venv again :https://paste.rs/xnU20:27
electricityZZZZah ok my bad there20:27
Azrael_-hi20:28
TJ-electricityZZZZ: "apt policy python3.6-venv"20:28
electricityZZZZwithout sudo?20:28
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: so what you posted earlier at    https://paste.rs/r2N   refers to a package   python3.6  version 3.6.8-1+xenial1    so we also need    apt policy python3.620:28
electricityZZZZhere it is without sudo: https://paste.rs/G0O20:29
Azrael_-i try to run "update-rc.d apache2 remove" but get this error message: "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/apache2 exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)". this is 14.04.6 but unfortunately the hoster doesn't support any newer version yet. what does this message mean?20:29
seven-elevendo packages installed with snap take much more disk space than installed with apt, because snap packages contain all dependencies the application needs and doesn't use system wide installed packages as dependencies?20:30
electricityZZZZper your request, here is apt policy python3.6    https://paste.rs/XUX20:30
tomreynAzrael_-: sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 is no longer supported here.20:31
lordcirth__seven-eleven, most snaps depend on the snap 'core' which deduplicates some of the bulk. But it will still use a bit more, probably20:31
Azrael_-not even some hints? i know you didn't purge all the ancient knowledge yet :)20:31
lordcirth__Azrael_-, 14.04 is just going to keep causing you problems until you fix it20:31
seven-elevenlordcirth__, oh wow, I didn't know about snap core. so the snap core decides how bleeding edge or old their core libraries should be for their devs20:32
lordcirth__seven-eleven, snaps can depend on different versions of core, I believe.20:32
seven-elevenlordcirth__, and if the devs want to use newer libraries they can just add it to their snap package20:32
seven-elevenlordcirth__, mmhm interesting20:32
Azrael_-lordcirth__: i know, but unfortunately this crappy hoster doesn't supporty any newer version on his vps yet. i know switching, but for now i have to stick with it for some time20:32
lordcirth__Azrael_-, can't you just upgrade it with do-release-upgrade?20:33
tomreynAzrael_-: talk to your hoster, maybe they have a long term support contract.20:33
Azrael_-tomreyn: they're just lazy20:33
TJ-electricityZZZZ: that python3.6 report shows a version for xenial was installed, but the repository it came from is no longer in APT's sources.list, but because its version is later than the available version in 18.04, the xenial package is kept20:34
Azrael_-lordcirth__: i admit i didn't try. i'm mostly a debian guy and thus not that familiar with ubuntu20:34
electricityZZZZhave i answered everybody's questions about the state of my system? sorry about my not spotting the correct package name once above.20:34
lordcirth__!eolupgrade | Azrael_-20:34
ubottuAzrael_-: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:34
electricityZZZZTJ-: ok, how do i rememdy that?20:34
TJ-electricityZZZZ: you could do "sudo apt install python3.6=3.6.7-1~18.0420:34
TJ-electricityZZZZ: the =xxxxx installs the specific version you request20:35
electricityZZZZdo i need to also tell it to install a bunch of other packages or will it handle the dependencies correctly?20:35
TJ-electricityZZZZ: it should handle the rest correctly if no other dependencies further on have problems like this one did20:35
electricityZZZZok, here goes...20:35
electricityZZZZsigh  https://paste.rs/KBu20:36
TJ-electricityZZZZ: it is possible that python3.6 depends on lots of other Xenial packages you've got installed, in which case they'd all need to be removed and the Bionic replacements installed. This should happen automagically but...!20:36
TJ-electricityZZZZ: It seems at one time you installed python 3.6 on Xenial from some 3rd party, then removed the repository info from sources.list.20:37
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: we would probably have to assume you have other such foreign packages / package versions? this situation should not occur in the first place on system which is managed well. here's a way you can identify the packages you need to clean up: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages20:37
TJ-electricityZZZZ: you could try removing the existing python3.6 which would then no longer depend on the other packages, which might make them 'autoremove' candidates20:38
electricityZZZZadmittedly i wont hate on ubuntu since ive had this system for a while but yeah itd be nice if i dont have to spend hours cleaning up20:38
TJ-electricityZZZZ: you make the mess, you gets to clean it up :D20:38
TJ-electricityZZZZ: see tomreyn's comment abouve and his tool to identify the foreign packages20:39
Azrael_-lordcirth__: ok, this is an openvz-environment. so i don't have any control over the kernel and upgrading everything else without the kernel with such a big gap will also most certainly cuase problems20:40
electricityZZZZok im running this random script as sudo20:40
electricityZZZZso then you want me to run sudo apt purge -qq apt-show-versions   ?20:41
lordcirth__Azrael_-, ah. Well, looks like you're stuck until you switch to a proper VPS20:41
Azrael_-arg, just realized it is still running 3.13.0-042stab136.1 :(20:42
tomreynAzrael_-: yes, openvz is really dead for ~ 10 years20:42
Azrael_-what's the current virtualization solution with the least overhead?20:43
TJ-openvz is linux containers :)20:43
tomreynthat is, the old implementation, based on a linux-vserver fork20:43
tomreynwhich this must be, based on the kernel version20:43
electricityZZZZim afraid to muck with these packages https://paste.rs/hS020:43
TJ-I fondly recall Virtuzzo, its forerunner, in the dim distant origins of the universe :)20:44
Exterminadoriirc properly, I had a hosting running OpenVZ.. I asked for an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and they said that there's no kernel to support the OS (or something similar)20:44
lordcirth__Azrael_-, depends. LXC will get you a container with a shared kernel. For a true VM, KVM.20:45
lordcirth__Xen might actually be faster, but is very different / harder20:45
Azrael_-yeah, running a few xen hosts myself. always thought with other containers like openvz you could constraint the vms in a higher detail20:47
tomreynTJ-: it seems you're right, i am wrong, and openvz was never based on linux-vservers.20:47
TJ-tomreyn: As I recall the 'open' was when virtuozzo went partly FOSS in order to get it into mainline, which took over a decade as it was20:48
tomreyni only remember a ig mess, replaced be a not-yet-ready solution called lxc.20:48
TJ-but it is the origins of all the namespace/cgroup/seccomp et al work20:48
tomreynhttps://wiki.openvz.org/Comparison has an overview20:49
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: so those packages in the upper list are installed on your system, via apt / dpkg, but there is no apt source available for them. Either purge them or configure an apt repository you trust which provides packages in versions compatible to your ubuntu release.20:55
electricityZZZZ...realistically a ubuntu user will (1) need to use python and (2) encounter packages which are outside of apt management.... is there a reasonable other way?20:57
electricityZZZZi would guess that making my own apt package is filled with ifs and buts and i would need to register to become a package maintainer and blahblah i simply don't have time to do that20:57
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: the packages in the lower list are installed on your system, via apt / dpkg, but there is no apt repository configured for the very *version* they are installed in (but for a lower version). Either downgrade (or purge and reinstall) them or configure an apt repository you trust which provides these packages in these or newer versions, and in versions compatible to your ubuntu release.20:58
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: you could use snaps instead, but YMMV.20:59
electricityZZZZtouching my nvidia drivers scares me i forget how i installed the latest ones21:00
electricityZZZZi dont understand why or how python is installed on my system outside of some apt thing21:00
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: there are python modules available via apt, and via pip (maybe prefer apt, but replace them by pip downloaded modules in a restricted users' home directory when newer module versions or modules not available via apt are needed needed). python is part of ubuntu, and ubuntu depends on it to work properly, so do not mix the two on an administrative level (root). use virtualenv's.21:04
electricityZZZZso will sudo apt-get purge python3.6    then autoremove, autoclean and install python3.6 take care of that ? if so how do i restore my other packages after doing that...21:04
Ben64i wouldn't purge python, sounds like a bad idea21:06
electricityZZZZcan i install a more recent version of python (like 3.7) and then point everything at that?21:06
OerHeksremoving a core python 3.6 .. not wise, and already answered by tomreyn21:06
Ben64electricityZZZZ: install the versions that are in the default repository21:07
YounderYou need to program each and very step using a provisoner to get such a complete restore. It is a lot of work, but the results can be mazing in case of major malfunction. As usual pupplet, chef, ansible or saltstack are available. Anyone will do but I hear SaltStack scales better in HPC environments with 100'ds of computers.21:07
mlozaHello, I'm using ubuntu bionic and I have set dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't set /etc/resolv.conf when restart networking21:09
EriC^^mloza: i think you need to set them in the files of /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d and then restart resolvconf21:11
electricityZZZZhttps://paste.rs/NIF    problems installing python3.7*21:11
EriC^^mloza: https://datawookie.netlify.com/blog/2018/10/dns-on-ubuntu-18.04/21:12
Bashing-ommloza: netplan now controls networking. See if : https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan helps .21:12
electricityZZZZoh interesting, i can tell it to install python3.7-venv manually and that works fine21:13
mlozaI don't want to use netplan. How can I make it traditional just by setting it /etc/network/interfaces will change the nameserver in /etc/resolve.conf?21:13
tomreynelectricityZZZZ: i got disconnected, here's what i saw / wrote: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mk9Vz3HpHQ/21:14
electricityZZZZoh interesting, i can tell it to install python3.7-venv manually and that works fine21:14
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electricityZZZZso i'm just substituting python3 with python3.7 in my command line diahhrea that i'm following and so far everything is working fine21:15
EriC^^mloza: https://askubuntu.com/questions/143819/how-do-i-configure-my-static-dns-in-interfaces21:15
OerHeksmloza, not, see EriC^^ answer21:15
YounderRemember that python 2.7 is still the standard ubuntu interface code, so making python 3.x search as pyton on the command line can fuck up the interface21:16
electricityZZZZlol python2.7 ... im leaving python3.6 as the default but am manually invoking 3.7 to create my virtualenv and then working within that (im assuming the virtualenv sets my python version to what i used to create it...)21:17
YounderI did that mistake once. Half the setting in meues stopped working.21:18
electricityZZZZmenus? you mean like gui stuff?21:18
electricityZZZZi dont really use the gui i just need my system to work21:19
artyxevery once in awhile theres something in the gui thats worth using though (saves time/effort)21:19
artyxplus.. web surfing in chrome/ff > surfing in w3m .. even if you can point/click21:19
electricityZZZZwhich should be a command line utility21:19
YounderWell much of the programs like 'settings' are written in python.21:19
electricityZZZZyeah the browser is the only ui i use21:19
artyxdoes anyone here mess with cpu pinning?21:20
artyxI bought a 12 core amd .. and noticed that its missing several cores .. for a 12 core cpu i have cores listed up to 14.21:20
electricityZZZZthere are weird problems with the gui setup in ubuntu. like i tried to use a wacom tablet and to make it work i have to log into xorg-gnome and then log back into "ubuntu" ... logging directly into ubuntu makes it not work... when it does work it works brilliantly however21:21
artyxbut i bet it works better using the whackem in xorg/beaver/whatever than the console21:22
electricityZZZZok within my python3.7-venv i am getting this error: https://paste.rs/oH221:22
artyxelectricityZZZZ apt-cache search cmake?21:23
electricityZZZZyeah ok sorry dumb question there21:23
artyxYou probably need to install cmake ...21:23
electricityZZZZyou would think pip would take care of that21:23
artyxyes and no ... cmake != python is it?21:23
artyxpip is for python based package management i thought21:24
Youndernop21:24
* electricityZZZZ wants to install software on his system and have it Just Work not spend time telling computers what he means21:24
YounderelectricityZZZZ, don't we all21:24
artyxelectricityZZZZ: You picked an interesting distribution for that =)21:25
artyxIve been working since 4/14 on my ubuntu 18/win10 setup21:25
electricityZZZZare you guys nixos afficionados? i read some forum posts and got turned off21:25
tomreynartyx: about your cpu cores not being detected, if you'Re looking for help with it, provide more information and output.21:25
YounderI still uise apache21:25
artyxtomreyn : Sure, its a 12 core cpu.  I noticed cpuinfo is missing 3,11,13 and instead has 12 and 1421:26
artyxIs that a normal affair?21:26
artyxgetting into this whole cpu pinning concept to improve guest performance even more21:26
tomreynno, not commonly to be expected21:27
tomreyn!details | artyx21:27
ubottuartyx: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.21:27
artyxesp since on a 6 core i opened up like 4 HEVC 1080p vids and they started descyncing21:27
tomreynapparently you're referring to some virtualization, you're not discussing which ubuntu version this is about, which cpu exactly etc.21:28
artyxThe details, is I was engaging in a friendly question to the (1524?!?!?) participants of the channel, wagering that at least one active particpant might elucidate a similar behavior on their own cpu21:28
artyxwhere proc/cpuinfo's cores are not all sequential, but they'd have to have a pretty big cpu. so for a dual core system, or laptop. probably not21:28
artyxI am looking for no support, its idle curiosity21:28
tomreynoh, i see. then it's just the wrong channel21:28
artyxIs there #ubuntu-community-chat-not-support?21:29
tomreyn!chat21:29
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:29
tomreynthere is also #ubuntu-discuss21:30
tomreynwe just keep it to support here since it can get busy. thanks.21:30
electricityZZZZyeah well i got my software package working, so there you have it. installing python3.7 will remedy a borked default python install. pretty valuable advice if i do say so myself :-P feel free to post on some board and claim credit21:31
artyxSo this is a support channel dedicated to the installer? (the unique part of ubuntu)21:32
Sleakerartyx: not just the installer.21:32
artyxthe repos?21:32
artyxI want to make sure i understand scope as not to waste anyone elses time.  (And asking what the scope of #ubuntu is on ubuntu discussion probably violates discussion somehow)21:32
artyx-drive file=/dev/sdc,if=none,format=raw,cache=none,id=hd0 -device virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsi -device scsi-block,drive=hd0,bus=scsi.0-device scsi-block,drive=drive0,bus=virtio-scsi-pci21:37
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causativeI'm trying to create a silent .wav of length 1 second with *exactly* the same characteristics as another .wav, at least the same sampling rate and bitrate, so that I can, I hope, append the silent .wav to the other one using sox with zero loss21:41
causativeI have found that even if the sampling rate is the same, sox will have a slight loss when concatenating the two files, which is unacceptable21:42
kadirocausative, try ffmpeg21:47
causativethat's what I was using21:48
kadirousing for concat or generate21:48
causativeto generate the silent wav21:48
causativeffmpeg will concat as well?21:49
kadirook you can also use it to concat21:49
kadiroyes21:49
kadiroffmpeg -f concat -i input.txt -codec copy generated_wav21:49
de-facto​/JOIN #ffmpeg21:50
kadiroinside your input.txt you have something like: file 'silent.wav' next line file 'otherwav.wav'21:50
causativeeh, that gives far worse results, can barely even understand the otherwav.wav from within generated.wav, so much static21:54
kadirocausative, otherwav.wav is an example use the exact naming for your wav file21:54
causativeof course, I did21:55
causativeand I can understand it a little if I listen hard through the static21:56
kadirocausative, I found a solution here ( https://superuser.com/questions/587511/concatenate-multiple-wav-files-using-single-command-without-extra-file ) with the ffmpeg may be it need transcoding it21:59
bfhsoftwarehello!! i need to active the FB ! FrameBuffer in Console tty1, please anyone can i helpme?22:02
bfhsoftwarehello?22:22
tomreyn!details | hi bfhsoftware, please22:23
ubottuhi bfhsoftware, please: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.22:23
bfhsoftwareok! sorry22:25
tomreynbfhsoftware: no need to be sorry there ;-)  - just provide some more info, start with the ubuntu version you are running there, explain what's the bigger issue you're trying to solve, and what brought you towards this possible solution.22:26
tomreyn!xy | bfhsoftware: so far, it sounds like an X<->Y issue to me22:28
Iknus_50hi guys22:29
tomreynbom tarde, Iknus_50, are you in need of some ubuntu support by chance?22:31
bfhsoftwarei need to active the FB ! FrameBuffer in Console tty1, i try to do a modprobe viafb and this is not work, and i think... i need to put a DRM module to kernel?22:31
OerHeksframebuffer to tty1 .. you want to play a movie or something?22:32
bfhsoftwareubuntu 16.04 desktop,22:32
bfhsoftwarei try to use advancemame! is a game yes22:37
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tomreynbfhsoftware: is this ARM hardware? maybe ask in #ubuntu-arm then22:43
bfhsoftwarenot, is a normal computer22:44
tomreynviafb is the frame buffer device driver for Graphics chips of VIA UniChrome (Pro) Family (CLE266,PM800/CN400,P4M800CE/P4M800Pro/ CN700/VN800,CX700/VX700,P4M890) and Chrome9 Family (K8M890,CN896 /P4M900,VX800)22:46
tomreynweren't those last produced aeons ago?22:46
tomreynit seems to be still supported as a module on 18.04 LTS, though.22:48
lwlvlhello everybody!22:49
tomreynbfhsoftware: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/viafb.txt is the manual, but note https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Via_Technologies22:50
tomreynhi lwlvl22:50
lwlvlI have a fresh installed Lenovo Yoga 330, which fails to come back from sleep immediately. After a time of let's say 1 minute, the screen comes back suddenly. The strange behavior is, that when I execute pm-suspend as root, I can wake up the notebook instantly and the screen comes back. But when I close the lid instead, the behavior mentioned earlier comes into play.22:51
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lwlvlokay...I think the time until the screen comes back is about 3 minutes, not 122:54
swift110hmm22:55
lwlvlhttps://bpaste.net/show/8d5aacc69676 <--- kernel-log22:59
lwlvlI have an assumption, that the ath-driver is causing the delay...but unsure....23:00
lwlvlthe behaviour is also reproduceable while flightmode (okay, the ath-driver may be still loaded...)23:00
bfhsoftwaretomreyn, i have this message https://bpaste.net/show/2802e93fe8c623:01
tomreynbfhsoftware: i'm afraid i know nothing at all about this module, can't help there.23:02
bfhsoftwareexits any module generic?23:03
Guest94823buenas23:04
lwlvlI think it's not related to the ath-driver...I unloaded it from the kernel, but the behaviour of black screen is still existent....there's also no way to use a propretiary graphic-driver since it's running with i915.23:05
tomreynlwlvl: well you have a kernl oops about ath10k in your log when resuming, this suggests a module or firmware issue.23:14
tomreynthe message before it happens is   ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: unsupported HTC service id: 153623:14
tomreyni'd suggest you search this.23:14
lwlvltomreyn, I unloaded the module ath10k_pci before closing the lid...same issue....23:14
lwlvl(I also checked that it was unloaded)23:15
tomreynlwlvl: i'm looking at line 955 and following of https://bpaste.net/show/8d5aacc69676 - where the module was loaded.23:16
tomreynalso this may be worth researching, printed when preparing to enter suspend:   ideapad_laptop: Unknown event: 1023:17
qwebirc78446Hiya. Currently having some 18.04 install issues23:17
lwlvltomreyn, yes, I see...I googled the message, analysing the results.23:17
lwlvltomreyn, but the issue persists, when I unload the module and close the lid....23:18
Bashing-om!details | qwebirc7844623:18
ubottuqwebirc78446: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.23:18
lwlvltomreyn, when I force the notebook into suspend by "pm-suspend" as root, everything works fine....23:18
tomreynlwlvl: you can post another log when you boot + suspend after blacklisting the module (and ensuring it is unloaded)23:18
lwlvltomreyn, okay...one second...23:19
qwebirc78446I have currently just installed it on my machine(which has grub23:19
tomreynlwlvl: maybe investigage systemd-inhibit23:19
tomreynlwlvl: maybe investigate     systemd-inhibit --list    and see whether any of those get in the way.23:19
tomreynhi qwebirc7844623:20
tomreynplease describe how the installation doesn't seem to be working properly23:20
qwebirc78446When I start Ubuntu, I get the Ubuntu symbol and the 4 loading dots23:21
qwebirc78446Afterwards, the screen blacks and I am then presented with a wall of text that looks like [ OK  ] important boot stuff here23:22
qwebirc78446After the initial load, it flickers23:22
qwebirc78446On and off, including when I load a terminal with alt+f223:23
tomreynlwlvl: see also logind.conf(5)23:24
qwebirc78446I can not access a terminal for more than a few seconds, though when I re enter it, it remembers where I was23:24
lwlvltomreyn, I put a few lines in logind.conf (after the problem appeared): HandleLidSwitch=ignore HandleSuspendKey=ignore HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore23:25
tomreynqwebirc78446: so you're saying the installation went fine, but there are problems afterwards, right?23:25
lwlvltomreyn, but only to prevent it from failing....23:25
qwebirc78446Currently on my phone for this chat, so if I'm slow to respond,23:25
qwebirc78446I apologise23:25
lwlvltomreyn, I'll blacklist the module right now and make a new log23:26
qwebirc78446Tomreyn yes23:26
tomreynqwebirc78446: can you switch to a tty?23:26
lwlvltomreyn, are there any services like "wgetpaste" in ubuntu to pipe the output directly to a pastebin?23:26
tomreyn!tty | qwebirc7844623:26
ubottuqwebirc78446: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution23:26
tomreyn!pastebinit | lwlvl23:26
ubottulwlvl: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit23:26
qwebirc78446Briefly, but the screen is flickering  so I'm kicked out every few seconds23:27
qwebirc78446It remembers where I last left though23:27
tomreynlwlvl: we also use   cat /etc/os-release  | nc termbin.com 9999   here, since netcat is installed by default.23:27
tomreynqwebirc78446: oh that's on a tty, not a terminal, right?23:28
tomreynlike, not a terminal window23:28
lwlvltomreyn, okay....reboot...let's see, what it brings.23:28
qwebirc78446tomreyn, yeah,  a tty.23:29
tomreynqwebirc78446: okay, can you boot to the recovery menu?23:30
tomreyn!recovery | qwebirc7844623:30
ubottuqwebirc78446: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode23:30
causativethanks kadiro I was able to get it to work and it does seem to be lossless after combining 300+ files in this way23:30
kadirocausative, no problem23:31
lwlvltomreyn, "blacklist ath10k_pci" wasn't working. (I put the line into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist)23:31
qwebirc78446tomreyn, doing so now. It's loading,  but now it's flickering again23:31
qwebirc78446Last thing on the list was under manager for uid 12223:31
qwebirc78446user*23:31
lwlvltomreyn, maybe better blacklisting "ath"?23:32
qwebirc78446tomreyn: got to a stable recovery mode tty23:32
lwlvltomreyn, blacklist ath didn't work either.23:33
tomreynlwlvl: blacklist ath10k_core23:33
tomreynlwlvl: that's th emodule which was failing. also, lsmod to see which ones are loaded23:34
tomreynand you might need to update-initramfs if those get loaded early23:34
tomreynqwebirc78446: great, so you see the menu now?23:34
qwebirc78446Well, it's just the terminal. Not a gui23:35
qwebirc78446I have root access to everything I would need to do though23:35
tomreynqwebirc78446: this is what the recovery menu look like https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2019/03/ubuntu-recovery-root.jpg23:36
tomreyni.e., without the shell prompt executed, yet23:37
qwebirc78446Oh, no not there. I am currently in the shell, as if I had one open on my machine23:37
tomreynqwebirc78446: i'd like you to get online (enable networking), that's why i'm asking23:37
atem_hi23:37
lwlvlhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cj3G5JJCGt/23:37
lwlvlstill loaded?!23:37
atem_where are you from23:38
lwlvlhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mBFgBQ2wRH/23:38
atem_iron man dead23:38
lwlvltomreyn, my blacklist-commands don't seem to prevent module loading...23:39
tomreynlwlvl: if the file name is indeed /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist it may just be ignored. you need to have it end in .conf, i think23:39
lwlvltomreyn, cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath10k_core.conf23:39
tomreyn!ot | atem_23:40
ubottuatem_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:40
lwlvltomreyn, that's why i don't get it...23:40
atem_hi23:40
qwebirc78446tomreyn what do I need networking to do?23:40
atem_hi23:41
tomreynqwebirc78446: helps installing updates and sharing output from your system with us.23:41
tomreynqwebirc78446: maybe let's take a step back. do you have a way to find out the name of the installer ISO file you downloaded?23:42
qwebirc78446It was part of an automatic update from the update manager23:43
tomreynlwlvl: so you tried updating the initramfs after adding the blacklist? you could also try a kernel command line parameter to block this module. you could try to rfkill the hardware if it's wireless.23:44
qwebirc78446tomreyn I don't know where it's from, other than the software manager of 16.0423:45
tomreynqwebirc78446: so you didn't install ubuntu 18.04 freshly, but you did a system upgrade from an earlier ubuntu release?23:45
qwebirc78446Yes23:45
tomreynqwebirc78446: so you upgraded from ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 18.04 ?23:46
qwebirc78446Yes23:46
qwebirc78446So this is going to be a nightmare, isn't it?23:46
lwlvltomreyn, I'm relatively new to ubuntu, is there a tool to get the initramfs updated?23:46
tomreynqwebirc78446: no, i'm just asking for clarification since you said "<qwebirc78446> Hiya. Currently having some 18.04 install issues" initially, which sounds like a fresh install23:47
lwlvltomreyn, update-initramfs looks good?23:47
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tomreynlwlvl: yes, that's why i mentioned it earlier ;)23:47
lwlvltomreyn, update-initramfs -u ;)23:47
lwlvlrunning...23:48
qwebirc78446 Ok. I can get into an 18.04 terminal at least23:48
tomreynqwebirc78446: okay, but you have no internet access, right?     ping -c3 google.com      reports 100% packet loss?23:49
lwlvltomreyn, still loaded...even with an updated initramfs23:49
qwebirc78446No packet loss at all23:50
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tomreynqwebirc78446: does this return a http address?   lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999923:50
lwlvltomreyn, okay....rfkill blocked the wifi right now....but the modules are still loaded....is it necessary for the test to simply unload them?23:51
lwlvlsince blacklisting is not working properly they will be reloaded after reboot23:52
tomreynlwlvl: probably not, if they aren't being used, they shouldnt get in the way, i hope23:52
lwlvltomreyn, okay...I will flush the kern.log and then do the test again23:52
qwebirc78446tomreyn got the address23:53
tomreynlwlvl: you can just run + post    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    afterwards23:53
tomreynqwebirc78446: would you share it with us? just the characters after the trailing slash23:53
qwebirc78446vgv523:54
tomreynso thats https://termbin.com/vgv5 for your graphics card23:54
qwebirc78446Ok. Makes sense23:55
tomreynyou have an nvidia graphics card, which i am not very familiar with.23:55
tomreyn!nomodeset23:56
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:56
tomreynthis might help, or make things worse, but it's worth a try23:56
lwlvltomreyn, okay...for the first the screen remains black after wakeup.23:56
tomreynqwebirc78446: on the other hand, booting to the recovery menu would have set nomodeset, too.23:56
tomreynbut maybe try nevertheless23:57
tomreynlwlvl: like, entirely? and that's not due to a change you made to logind.conf ?23:57
lwlvltomreyn, no, I just disabled the lid-switches, but I commented my lines out and reactivated them23:58
lwlvlNOW....it comes back with login-screen23:58
tomreynlwlvl: so you'Re saying it took longer than before this time.23:58

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