| lwlvl | tomreyn, https://termbin.com/hf4u | 00:00 |
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| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: you could also see whether you run into the same issues when booting from a 18.04 live / installer iso | 00:01 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: if you don't, then maybe it's a hint that you should do a fresh ubuntu 18.04.2 installation | 00:01 |
| tomreyn | ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) | 00:02 |
| marquezini | why br servers bandwidth are too low for updates? | 00:03 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, Mai 03 01:58:20 tatjana kernel: snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC0D2: Unable to sync register 0x2f0d00. -11 | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: yes you also had this last time, another line to investigate, i agree | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: also your thermald is not configured | 00:04 |
| qwebirc78446 | Nomodeset was already in the boot params. I'll have to | 00:06 |
| qwebirc78446 | Do something else | 00:06 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, yes, but I don't suspect thermald to freeze the wakeup process... | 00:06 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: "Mai 03 01:58:20" is your first wakeup, 2.5 minutes after suspend was reached, right? | 00:07 |
| lwlvl | yes | 00:07 |
| tomreyn | and restoring the desktop took ~ 30s from there | 00:08 |
| qwebirc78446 | Hmm | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | sounds fine to me, based on (only) those logs | 00:09 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, taking 2.5min to wake up? | 00:09 |
| lwlvl | that worse is not even windows 10! | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: i'm afraid i have no better suggestions than the generic ones i provided. maybe another one you could try is to sudo apt purge *nvidia* and see if the system boots properly with nouveau, the open source graphics driver. this would at least enable you to investigate more then. | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: i'm saying it seem to have taken linux and your desktop 30s to wake up, after a 2.5 minute suspend. | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: if you suspended shorter than that, your firmware will be to blame. | 00:11 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, it's more like that: I suspended the hardware, opened the lid after let's say 10 seconds (when the led began to flash smoothly) and the led became bright again....but nothing happened for 2.5 minutes....after that time the login-screen came up and I was able to login. | 00:13 |
| qwebirc78446 | Well I did purge *nvida* | 00:15 |
| qwebirc78446 | Good news: it boots to a gui | 00:16 |
| qwebirc78446 | Bad news: I try to log in and it says " failed to start session" | 00:16 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl, qwebirc78446: i just got disconnected, may have missed some of what you wrote. here's what i wrote last: | 00:20 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> lwlvl: you lack a "critical" mainboard firmware update https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/YOGA-SERIES/YOGA-330-11IGM/81A6/downloads/DS502882 - BIOS 6QCN45WW 11/22/2018 is what you have now | 00:20 |
| qwebirc78446 | I did sudo apt purge *nvidia* | 00:20 |
| qwebirc78446 | Good news: boots to gui | 00:20 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, damn....I suspected it....but I didn't update it since it's a windows-executable.... | 00:21 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: you could try creating a new user account (sudo adduser --gecos '' testuser; sudo adduser testuser sudo) and see if you can login to that. | 00:21 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, thank you for investigation.... | 00:21 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, so I need to boot to windows somehow.... | 00:22 |
| qwebirc78446 | Still got failed to start session | 00:24 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: see if you have a directory like /etc/X11 | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | ls -la /etc/X11 | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | and some file or directory which starts with "xorg" in there | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: the folks in ##windows may be happy to point you to https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ | 00:26 |
| qwebirc78446 | Yep, found them | 00:27 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: so those need to be renamed / moved out of the way. | 00:27 |
| qwebirc78446 | Ok. | 00:27 |
| tomreyn | ls -alR /etc/X11/xorg* | nc termbin.com 9999 | 00:28 |
| tomreyn | ^ just if you like | 00:28 |
| qwebirc78446 | I got 99xo out of that command | 00:32 |
| qwebirc78446 | I've renamed the xorg files btw | 00:33 |
| faLUCE | hello. is there a way to install pipelight on 18.04 (bionic) ? | 00:36 |
| faLUCE | the "official" package seems broken: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/pipelight | 00:37 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, thank you! | 00:39 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: you're welcome. | 00:40 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: feel free to mention the nickname of whom you're addressing to ensure they get notified about your reply. | 00:41 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: "99xo" sounds wrongm but maybe it came out wrong... | 00:42 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: either way, just reboot once more after removing these files and having uninstalled allthe *nvidia* packages | 00:42 |
| qwebirc78446 | tomreyn why does it sound wrong? Fwiw I ran the command after renaming the xorg files | 00:43 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: it's just not the name i expected to see there, but it should not cause any issues, normally there are no files there at all. | 00:44 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: oh i just realize i got you wrong there | 00:44 |
| tomreyn | you were pointing me to https://termbin.com/99xo | 00:45 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: okay, this looks fine. try rebooting (if you haven't already) and logging in as your normal or the new user now. | 00:46 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: if you later want to try installing nvidia drivers again, you can use the "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" command on a tty / terminal or the "software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4" command on a graphical desktop | 00:48 |
| tomreyn | faLUCE: there is no such package to begin with https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pipelight | 00:57 |
| faLUCE | tomreyn: I know | 00:57 |
| faLUCE | tomreyn: that's what I said | 00:57 |
| tomreyn | faLUCE: you said 'the "official" package seems broken', pointing to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/pipelight | 00:58 |
| tomreyn | this implies there is a package, and that is it broken. | 00:58 |
| tomreyn | faLUCE: most people who try to install pipelight actually try to make widevine work on a web browser. firefox and chrome (the proprietary one, not supported here) provide support for it. | 01:02 |
| tomreyn | just install the web browser and access a website which provides the DRM'd content. | 01:03 |
| lwlvl | tomreyn, okay...bios-upgrade didn't do the trick. I'll disable the suspend-functions in logind.conf for the first so the girl can work with the device...I need to figure out later with the notebook of my girlfriend (which is exactly the same) what's going wrong.... | 01:06 |
| qwebirc78446 | tomreyn was ago for a bit. If I just reboot after renaming the city.conf files, it'll automatically sort itself out? | 01:09 |
| qwebirc78446 | Afk* | 01:09 |
| qwebirc78446 | Xorg* | 01:09 |
| tomreyn | lwlvl: a pity, good luck! | 01:11 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: that's my hope, yes | 01:11 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: those xorg configuration files contain instrucxtions used by the proprietary nvidia driver ("nvidia"). you now use the open source one ("nouveau"), which means these configurations can only get in the way. normally, with open source drivers, the X server will automatically figure out how to configure itself, so no configuration files should be needed. | 01:13 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc78446: i have to wrap it up here, need sleep. good luck, and feel free to summarize the issue and what as done so far, and what's not working yet, here if you'd like someone else to take over, | 01:14 |
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| Lenovoi5 | Hello. | 02:41 |
| Lenovoi5 | How can i upgrade a specific program? | 02:41 |
| Lenovoi5 | apt-get update programname. | 02:41 |
| Lenovoi5 | Or how? | 02:41 |
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| ouiouyyyy | hi | 02:46 |
| guiverc | Lenovoi5, `sudo apt-get --only-upgrade install <package>` (`sudo apt-get update` updates software repository lists, not programs/packages; upgrade does that) | 02:51 |
| Lenovoi5 | Thank you. | 02:52 |
| guiverc | Lenovoi5, or you can specify a specific version with `apt-get install <package>=<version>` (if you have multiple choiecs available seen with `apt-cache policy <package>` | 02:53 |
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| Platypus-Man | I'm having audio issues on Ubuntu 18.94.2 LTS - have tried laptop speakers, headset via 3.5 jack and a bluetooth headset, none of them give sound via media stored on the laptop, or played from youtube - all of them work when I try the audio test (audible front left/front right), tried both "HDA ATI HDMI" and "HD-Audio Generic" in alsamixer | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: is your driver loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C sound | 03:42 |
| Pharaoh | Hello! Does anyone have an idea on Chrome blocking Flash on 19.04? | 03:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Pharaoh: we reccomend using chromium-browser on ubuntu, the alternative of chrome. dont visit flash sites? | 03:43 |
| Pharaoh | <lotuspsychje>: Some game sites are still flash only | 03:43 |
| Platypus-Man | Pharaoh: shows two entries | 03:43 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: im interested in driver= ... | 03:44 |
| Platypus-Man | hmm, no.. that seems to be missing | 03:44 |
| Platypus-Man | ah, found it, hold on | 03:45 |
| Pharaoh | anyways, not a priority for now.. ty | 03:45 |
| Platypus-Man | configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0 | 03:46 |
| Platypus-Man | both entries have the same line regarding the driver | 03:46 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: ok that looks good, pastebin us your dmesg log please? | 03:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: another option could be testing with pavucontrol if you can get more sound to work | 03:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !info pavucontrol | Platypus-Man | 03:50 |
| ubottu | Platypus-Man: pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0-4 (bionic), package size 126 kB, installed size 804 kB | 03:50 |
| Platypus-Man | here's the dmesg log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3X5Hcp68RG/ | 03:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: your system is not up to date, please try the following first: | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | !uptodate | Platypus-Man | 03:51 |
| ubottu | Platypus-Man: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: seems like you also have secureboot=ON do you dualboot or singleboot? | 03:52 |
| Platypus-Man | singleboot, came with Windows but I only have Ubuntu on it now | 03:53 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: then its reccomended also to have secureboot=off and fastboot=off , be carefull changing these could influence your current install of ubuntu | 03:54 |
| jcotton | where is it reccomended to have secure boot off? | 03:54 |
| lotuspsychje | jcotton: thats what i always do for singleboots | 03:55 |
| jcotton | your phrasing implies its backed by someone tho | 03:55 |
| lotuspsychje | jcotton: secureboot off can have unwanted behaviour on ubuntu, like wifi,sound,graphics block | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | on, sorry | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | jcotton: did you see: 0.000000] Kernel is locked down from EFI secure boot; see man kernel_lockdown.7 | 03:57 |
| jcotton | ye | 03:57 |
| jcotton | well | 03:57 |
| jcotton | I know about that | 03:57 |
| jcotton | ah wait have to go | 03:58 |
| jcotton | bedtime | 03:58 |
| Platypus-Man | only way to disable secure boot on this laptop was to change from UEFI to legacy boot in the BIOS, which made it not recognize a boot record at all | 04:07 |
| jcotton | mmmm, non-compliant uefi | 04:08 |
| sinon | hi | 04:20 |
| circ-user-GLgL6 | .. | 04:24 |
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| refhack | testt | 04:33 |
| refhack | i have froblem or installation ubuntu on macbook | 04:34 |
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| NMSK_Levsha | hi all, can i use package from 16lts in 18lts? | 04:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !mix | NMSK_Levsha | 04:59 |
| ubottu | NMSK_Levsha: it is usually a very bad idea to mix packages from different releases (or Linux distributions), and it is completely unsupported | 04:59 |
| NMSK_Levsha | i`m just neet 1.6 of synergy, coz of first pc with it, on LinuxMint, and idk how to solve version diff | 05:00 |
| lotuspsychje | NMSK_Levsha: we dont support mint, only ubuntu here | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: any progress? | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | !mint > NMSK_Levsha | 05:01 |
| ubottu | NMSK_Levsha, please see my private message | 05:01 |
| Platypus-Man | not much, 7 AM now, should really go to bed.. will probably end up disabling secure boot and reinstalling the latest release when I have some media to install with (don't really need LTS for my usecase) | 05:03 |
| NMSK_Levsha | ok ubottu | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | Platypus-Man: ok, good luck mate | 05:03 |
| Platypus-Man | thanks for the help though, everyone :) | 05:03 |
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| jUsTaDDKoffee | hi | 06:54 |
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| imnitwit | what dictionary app can i use to import other dic files? | 06:57 |
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| zetheroo | Is there a way to list all cronjobs on the system? | 07:26 |
| lotuspsychje | !cron | zetheroo | 07:27 |
| ubottu | zetheroo: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto | 07:27 |
| zetheroo | lotuspsychje: I didn't find anything in there about my question. | 07:31 |
| lotuspsychje | zetheroo: did you try: crontab -l | 07:33 |
| zetheroo | lotuspsychje: yes :) but there are many more cronjobs than what is shown by that command | 07:34 |
| zetheroo | user crons and also what's in /etc/cron... | 07:35 |
| zetheroo | for user in $(cut -f1 -d: /etc/passwd); do echo $user; crontab -u $user -l; done | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | zetheroo: how about: ls -la /etc/cron.monthly/ | 07:36 |
| zetheroo | that seems to work well for all user crons, but not sure if it also shows what is in /etc/cron ... | 07:36 |
| zetheroo | ls -la /etc/cron.monthly/ only lists the files in the desired directory ... I am looking for a way to list all the cronjobs on the systems | 07:37 |
| zetheroo | on one of our 16.04 servers we have this command running and it's using a lot of IO: rsync --server --sender -vlogDtpre.iLfxC --numeric-ids . /home/ | 07:48 |
| zetheroo | any idea what it might be? I cannot find it in any of the crons | 07:49 |
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| tuxinator | zetheroo: looks like somebody sync's your user's home directory's | 07:55 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: was your server hijacked? Or you have some script-kiddie in your network? | 07:56 |
| zetheroo | tuxinator: I see there is also a raid check job going - that wouldn't have anything to do with it ... or? | 07:56 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: no, rsync is for syncing files | 07:57 |
| zetheroo | right | 07:57 |
| tuxinator | see man rsync for an explanation | 07:57 |
| tuxinator | https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync | 07:57 |
| zetheroo | 26188 be/4 root 133.03 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.99 % rsync --server --sender -vlogDtpre.iLfxC --numeric-ids . /home/ | 07:58 |
| zetheroo | its running as root :/ | 07:58 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: for raid resync you could have a look at cat /proc/mdstat | 07:58 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: on a software raid | 07:58 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: what kind of system is it? internal? exposed to the public? webserver? | 07:59 |
| zetheroo | external webserver | 07:59 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: what brings ps aux | grep php or ps aux | grep cgi ? | 08:00 |
| tuxinator | post the result on pastebin https://paste.ubuntu.com | 08:00 |
| zetheroo | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M4yfBbG6FV/ | 08:01 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: that does not look so bad | 08:03 |
| tuxinator | zetzeroo: output of ps aux | grep rsync ? | 08:03 |
| zetheroo | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rWhh9Ypxv6/ | 08:04 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: i would kill it for the moment | 08:04 |
| zetheroo | is it a child process? | 08:04 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: what backupsoftware you use? | 08:05 |
| tuxinator | dirvish? | 08:05 |
| zetheroo | honeslty I have no idea - I don't typically have much to do with this system, and the guy who does isn't here today. | 08:06 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: i assume it's some backupjob | 08:07 |
| zetheroo | ok | 08:07 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: paste your crontab | 08:07 |
| tuxinator | or do a ps aux | grep dirvish | 08:07 |
| tuxinator | or check if dirvish command is found | 08:07 |
| zetheroo | -bash: dirvish: command not found | 08:08 |
| zetheroo | 'cat /etc/cron*/* |grep dirvish' returns nothing | 08:09 |
| zetheroo | crontab -l https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8pdSmbSNT3/ | 08:09 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: some backup stuff in ls /etc/cron.*/ ? | 08:11 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: you may also check your network where the data flows actually | 08:11 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: so you see if it is internal or external | 08:12 |
| zetheroo | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yV9XNn6Kd3/ | 08:12 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: use iftop or iptraf (iftop preferred) for that purpose | 08:12 |
| tuxinator | so you should see the live traffic | 08:13 |
| zetheroo | ok | 08:13 |
| zetheroo | how do I link that process to what I see in iftop? | 08:17 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: 1st you may write me private as i also talk german | 08:18 |
| zetheroo | :D | 08:18 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: iftop shows you the network traffic flow from -> to so you may watch for rsync ports | 08:19 |
| zetheroo | Englisch ist meine Muttersprache ;) | 08:19 |
| tuxinator | what is the full rsync command you see in ps | 08:19 |
| zetheroo | root 26188 0.5 0.0 20844 7708 ? Ds 03:38 1:57 rsync --server --sender -vlogDtpre.iLfxC --numeric-ids . /home/ | 08:20 |
| tuxinator | oh my god, i have meteo people, they predict always the wrong weather for my region (canton wallis, switzerland) :D | 08:20 |
| tuxinator | ;D ;D | 08:21 |
| zetheroo | LOL :D | 08:21 |
| zetheroo | must have been some other meteo people ;) | 08:21 |
| Filikun | Hi! I'm new to ubuntu and especially Ubuntu server. So I followed a guide to install Caddy web server and now I wan't to remove that. How does one do that? | 08:24 |
| Filikun | I wan't to remove everyting I did in this guide https://hostadvice.com/how-to/how-to-install-configure-the-caddy-web-server-on-an-ubuntu-18-04-vps/ | 08:26 |
| tuxinator | actually i meant i hate :D always mistyping today, i need the weekend | 08:27 |
| interrobangd | Hello, is somebody here using "apt-btrfs-snapshot"??? | 08:28 |
| interrobangd | i get e message "The system does not support apt-btrfs-snapshot" | 08:31 |
| Slartibart | Hi guys. After upgrading 18.04 LTS -> 19.04 cheese(cam) no longer works for me. I get "(cheese:17432): cheese-WARNING **: 10:29:01.284: GStreamer-fel: negotiation problem.: camerabingeneral.c(87): gst_camerabin_add_element_full (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source: | 08:38 |
| Slartibart | linking src-crop failed" Anyone managed to solve this? | 08:38 |
| tomreyn | interrobangd: do you have apts data stored on a btrfs then? | 08:38 |
| interrobangd | tomreyn, i think so - everything is on the same btrfs partion | 08:39 |
| tomreyn | interrobangd: okay, i don't have first hand experience with it, so that's all i could suggest. I assume you read all manuals? | 08:40 |
| pragomer | trying to add the caldav from my mailprovider to gnome-calender (adding "new internet calender"), but gnome-calender does not want this format: | 08:43 |
| pragomer | https://posteo.de:8443/calendars/myusername/default/ | 08:43 |
| interrobangd | tomreyn, which manuals? i did not find anyone related to apt-btrfs-snapshot | 08:43 |
| pragomer | any idead what I do wrong? | 08:43 |
| tomreyn | Slartibart: i'd say make sure you got the right versions installed, look for an existing bug report at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer1.0/+bugs and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bugs and, if none, report a bug using ubuntu-bug cheese | 08:45 |
| tomreyn | interrobangd: good point, there seem to be none. maybe /usr/bin/apt-btrfs-snapshot --help then, and look at /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80-btrfs-snapshot and /etc/cron.weekly/apt-btrfs-snapshot and /usr/share/doc/apt-btrfs-snapshot/changelog.gz | 08:48 |
| zetheroo | tuxinator: it was, as you suspected, a backup job | 08:55 |
| tomreyn | pragomer | 09:12 |
| tomreyn | pragomer: gnome-calendar doesn't seem to like the port number specified in your URL. you may want to file a bug against it. | 09:12 |
| tomreyn | pragomer: actually i can't seem to make it work with any URLs returning an iCal file | 09:14 |
| tomreyn | pragomer: bug 1825224 | 09:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1825224 in gnome-calendar (Ubuntu) "gnome-calendar cannot add credentialed web ics calendars" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825224 | 09:17 |
| tuxinator | zetheroo: luckily :D | 09:18 |
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| pragomer | tomreyn: oh thanks | 09:36 |
| pragomer | tomreyn: seems like theres nothing I can about that, right? other than to use a different calender app. thats not too good for an lts release and its default calender app | 09:38 |
| manh | I have a problem on resizing luks partition, I have free space but can't resize due to Physical Extents fragmentation, how do I fix them? | 10:03 |
| manh | here is my segments list: https://pastebin.com/sEBSLcJE | 10:04 |
| qwebirc79755 | hello | 10:10 |
| qwebirc79755 | h | 10:12 |
| lewolf | Hello everyone | 10:18 |
| migmolrod | hi | 10:18 |
| sylario | Hi, I am using ubuntu 18.04 and I do not understand my ssh service. The config file seems to be /etc/ssh/ssh_config instead of sshd_config | 10:22 |
| sylario | Also /etc/init.d/ssh restart and service ssh restart and sudo service ssh restart fails | 10:23 |
| sylario | I am trying to do remote port forwarding and I want to add GatewayPorts yes to the config | 10:25 |
| guiverc | sylario, ssh_config i think you'll find the for ssh (client), sshd_config is openssh-server (server); you seem to be mixing up client & server (they are seperate) | 10:27 |
| guiverc | sylario, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html.en for server detail, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring for client detail | 10:28 |
| jeremy31 | sylario: sshd_config is part of openssh-server, not installed by default | 10:28 |
| guiverc | sorry my 2nd was not client - my mistake | 10:29 |
| guiverc | sylario, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding is port forwarding doco | 10:30 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:31 |
| sylario | Ok I am checking that thx | 10:31 |
| refalleo | hi worls | 10:44 |
| refalleo | hi world | 10:44 |
| refhack | hallo | 10:48 |
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| Catzzye | Hey, I'm here EriC^^ | 11:20 |
| Catzzye | So whenever you're free | 11:20 |
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| inky | is nftables replacing iptables? | 11:37 |
| ryouba | hi! | 11:51 |
| ryouba | i'm adding an SSD in the optical drive bay of a laptop that already has an HDD with Windows 10 on it. ubuntu asks me where to install the boot loader. should i choose sda1 (the EFI partition)? | 11:52 |
| ryouba | (i've already created sdb1 for swap and sdb2 for /) | 11:52 |
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| BluesKaj | ryouba, if the /efi/boot is 512mb or larger then yes | 11:57 |
| ryouba | BluesKaj: wow, that's how much ubuntu puts in there? o_O | 12:00 |
| jeremy31 | ryouba: what does Windows make it? 200mb | 12:00 |
| ryouba | BluesKaj: unfortunately it's only 272MB of which 70MB are already in use. under these circumstances, should i create another EFI partition on sdb? | 12:00 |
| ryouba | jeremy31: 272MB | 12:00 |
| jeremy31 | ryouba: It can be done but some windows updates will remove grub | 12:01 |
| ryouba | o_O | 12:01 |
| ryouba | even the EFI grub file? | 12:01 |
| ryouba | will that company ever stop their arrogance? | 12:02 |
| jeremy31 | ryouba: Yes from some of the forum issues | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | jeremy31, really ? i wasn't aware of that | 12:02 |
| ryouba | jeremy31: so better a second EFI partition on the SSD then? will the laptop pick up on that? | 12:02 |
| jeremy31 | https://askubuntu.com/questions/745737/windows-10-randomly-kicks-out-my-grub-how-do-i-reinstall-it | 12:03 |
| EriC^^ | Catzzye: hi | 12:04 |
| jeremy31 | ryouba: I think you can put an EFI system partition on sdb and use the BIOS boot menu to boot to it | 12:04 |
| ryouba | jeremy31: according to a comment on that answer it seems that windows only changed the UEFI boot order | 12:04 |
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| ryouba | but i guess a second EFI partition might make more sense ... also if someone ever gets the idea of changing drives in the laptop | 12:04 |
| ryouba | thank you! | 12:04 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: yeah, good idea | 12:05 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: for the bootloader option just choose the drive itself not the partition,e.g /dev/sdb (after making an efi partition in the partitioning scheme of the installer) | 12:06 |
| jeremy31 | It would be easy to fix if it did just change the boot order. I haven't booted Win 10 since December and I made some changes so it won't boot Win at all now | 12:07 |
| ryouba | EriC^^: damn, i just chose the partition ... hopefully going to be able to fix that after the installation runs through - or should i just abort and redo right now? | 12:08 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: i dont think it'll really matter for uefi | 12:09 |
| ryouba | EriC^^: okay! | 12:09 |
| EriC^^ | usually grub-install for uefi doesnt even take an argument | 12:09 |
| fishcooker | what's eml files reader except thunderbird? | 12:09 |
| ryouba | fishcooker: mpack if you're looking for something on the command line? (`munpack blah.eml`) | 12:10 |
| fishcooker | checking ryouba | 12:10 |
| mikubuntu | just did an update and got an error msg in the output that worries me -- "no matching swap available" that seems to be associated with initram process -- isn't that boot? here's a pic i took of the term, do i have anything to worry about upon restart? https://imagebin.ca/v/4fojmsU8a5sM | 12:15 |
| maxzor | tomreyn, hello, the laptop sleep and woke up lasted 3 days good... now its worse than before :< | 12:17 |
| maxzor | sleep-and-wake-up* | 12:18 |
| ryouba | EriC^^: it worked beautifully! now i'll just have to deal with the BIOS, which apparently doesn't allow you to prioritize one UEFI boot manager over another. | 12:18 |
| varjag | is there a way to make firefox open root-owned folders in 18.04? | 12:21 |
| varjag | i need to browse under /usr/doc | 12:22 |
| varjag | (hello) | 12:22 |
| ayekat | varjag: /usr/doc should be world-readable, so firefox should be able to just browse it normally | 12:27 |
| ayekat | wait... /usr/share/doc or /usr/doc? the latter doesn't really exist | 12:28 |
| varjag | right, /usr/share/doc | 12:28 |
| varjag | that's what i thought, but it won't browse | 12:29 |
| varjag | it does browse on my mint 19 setup | 12:29 |
| varjag | on bionic i get permission denied | 12:29 |
| ayekat | varjag: what file in particular? | 12:29 |
| varjag | all of them, i can't access the directory even | 12:30 |
| Chaekyung | well, firefox can't open files that it has no permission to open. why your /usr/share/doc isn't world readable is beyond me, though. | 12:30 |
| varjag | "file:///usr/share/doc/" | 12:30 |
| varjag | it *is* world readable | 12:30 |
| Chaekyung | if you want to browse it with firefox then the obvious solution would be just chmod -R a+rX /usr/share/doc if it's actually not reable on your machine for some reason | 12:30 |
| varjag | again, it is world readable | 12:31 |
| varjag | i can ls it just fine as a user | 12:31 |
| Chaekyung | opening file:///usr/share/doc/ on my machine works fine | 12:31 |
| ayekat | varjag: can you browser your home directory? does file:///home/{username} work? | 12:31 |
| varjag | yes | 12:32 |
| ayekat | s/browser/browse/ | 12:32 |
| ayekat | varjag: where does it stop working? can you step up to /home? and /? and /usr? | 12:32 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: what pc model is it? | 12:33 |
| varjag | ayekat: i can list /, but not descend anywhere from there | 12:33 |
| varjag | '/snap/firefox/203/firefox-bin' | 12:34 |
| varjag | ugh what is this snap thing | 12:34 |
| varjag | is that some kind of sandbox | 12:34 |
| ayekat | ah, snaps... | 12:35 |
| * ayekat slowly backs out of this | 12:35 | |
| varjag | … | 12:35 |
| varjag | what is this and how do i get rid of it | 12:36 |
| ayekat | I'm just someone who uses Ubuntu on a headless VM because $work, so I'm not much of a help with desktop-related issues, but... it seems *very* silly that ubuntu is in a place now where people can *accidentally* end up with snaps | 12:36 |
| varjag | is that some hypervisor snapshotting whatever | 12:37 |
| ayekat | it's some sort of alternative package management, I believe | 12:37 |
| varjag | oh. | 12:37 |
| varjag | for the times when apt is too boring= | 12:38 |
| varjag | good god thunderbird is also under that | 12:38 |
| varjag | *facepalm* | 12:38 |
| ayekat | varjag: how did you install firefox, though? is it just the preinstalled one? | 12:39 |
| varjag | i got 16.04 pre-installed from dell | 12:39 |
| varjag | installed firefox via the "store", which i thought is some sort of fancy aptitude | 12:39 |
| varjag | and upgraded to bionic | 12:39 |
| ayekat | hmm... maybe that "store" now defaults to installing snaps | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychje | guys, focus on support | 12:41 |
| lotuspsychje | for discussions use #ubuntu-discuss | 12:41 |
| varjag | well any ideas with my issue, lotuspsychje | 12:41 |
| lotuspsychje | varjag: if you ask in the channel and patient, volunteers might help think along with you | 12:42 |
| varjag | ok | 12:42 |
| zzlatev | Hey guys, can I make a mirror of my ubuntu and use it to another machine? | 12:42 |
| lotuspsychje | !crosspost | zzlatev | 12:43 |
| ubottu | zzlatev: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 12:43 |
| zzlatev | sorry! | 12:43 |
| ayekat | varjag: anyway, I would probably just get rid of the firefox snap package thingy, and use apt to install it normally | 12:43 |
| varjag | ayekat: thanks, looking into uninstalling the whole snapd thing | 12:44 |
| ayekat | yeah, probably saner in the long term ^^ | 12:44 |
| ioria | varjag, and maybe you want also to disable gnome-software-plugin-snap | 12:44 |
| lotuspsychje | varjag: some parts of the system now have default snaps, so be carefull not the bork your system | 12:45 |
| mikubuntu | just did an update and got an error msg in the output that worries me -- "no matching swap available" that seems to be associated with initram process -- isn't that boot? here's a pic i took of the term, do i have anything to worry about upon restart? https://imagebin.ca/v/4fojmsU8a5sM | 12:49 |
| ryouba | EriC^^: it's an older HP G6 ... 250 or 255 or so. nevermind. i just used efibootmgr to put the ubuntu UEFI manager as the default one. | 12:50 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: that rarely works | 12:50 |
| pcazman | Display orientantion is flipped. however, there is no orientantion setting in the kernel it boots up in. Do I just got to use the old kernal till the new one comes out? | 12:50 |
| ryouba | EriC^^: in this case it did. but perhaps because i had also previously disabled secure boot? | 12:50 |
| EriC^^ | on rebooting it'll put windows back, i found that disabling the entry usually works | 12:50 |
| EriC^^ | via sudo efibootmgr -A -b <boot number in hex> | 12:51 |
| EriC^^ | efibootmgr -a -b <boot number> enables it if you later want to set it back | 12:51 |
| cyberbob | Hi All, is there a way to encrypt home drive in ubuntu 18.04 after installing. I've formatted my drive (/home and couple of other partitions using ext4) but want to encrypt this for security purposes | 12:52 |
| EriC^^ | ryouba: nope, even with secureboot disabled its hardwired to boot /efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi i guess anyways it's all good, less hassle for you | 12:52 |
| varjag | ok dell has canonical-livepatch enabled, that works via snaps.. | 12:52 |
| varjag | this is getting tricky | 12:52 |
| EriC^^ | cyberbob: yeah create a user using adduser with the home encrypt options, "man adduser" | 12:52 |
| varjag | plan b, i uninstall everything i can from snaps and reinstall via apt | 12:53 |
| varjag | as jesus meant it | 12:53 |
| varjag | thanks for the tips folks | 12:53 |
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| cmm11 | why would ubuntu fail to install grub on this setup ? https://i.imgur.com/m0f0oeZ.png | 13:06 |
| cmm11 | ah interesting, so i looked again and it was asking did i want to install grub to MBR, read the page wrong, did No, installed to HDD, continues | 13:19 |
| cmm11 | and doesnt boot | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | cmm11: isnt a ext4 non lvm required by default for grub? | 13:29 |
| EriC^^ | i think if you want the /boot part of the encrypted disk, you need to put it inside "/" without any partition for itself and tell grub about that | 13:30 |
| cmm11 | "/boot is seperate and outside of LUKS so grub can be installed onto it | 13:30 |
| EriC^^ | oh | 13:31 |
| cmm11 | unless i've set it up wrong | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | are you sure? | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | cmm11: can you boot a live usb to troubleshoot the install? | 13:32 |
| cmm11 | ah it's a logical volume so i guess it's putting it inside the encrypted volume group perhaps | 13:32 |
| EriC^^ | yeah maybe | 13:33 |
| cmm11 | this is just a VM , so i'll just try again | 13:33 |
| cmm11 | but i think i know what's wrong | 13:33 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 13:33 |
| mikubuntu | just did an update and got an error msg in the output that worries me -- "no matching swap available" that seems to be associated with initram process -- isn't that boot? here's a pic i took of the term, do i have anything to worry about upon restart? https://imagebin.ca/v/4fojmsU8a5sM | 13:33 |
| cmm11 | holy moly that dust | 13:34 |
| cmm11 | EriC^^ created a RAID1 device, and could find option to create a partition on it but no option to specify which size which is very odd, but i went into guided partition and it the raid is listed, this is how the installer is setup to do it https://i.imgur.com/5xhjFYW.png | 13:39 |
| cmm11 | so yeah it has seperate /boot under raid1 device 0 | 13:41 |
| EriC^^ | that looks right cmm11 | 13:42 |
| cmm11 | so much easier doing it cli way ;) , i'll continue on and see if it boots | 13:42 |
| hong | em | 13:52 |
| leonardus | Why are my png images opening up in firefox when I double click them? | 13:57 |
| leonardus | My default application for Photos is Image Viewer | 13:57 |
| ayekat | leonardus: photos typically aren't PNG, though | 14:00 |
| leonardus | right, but Firefox is only the default application for Web | 14:00 |
| ayekat | may need to check what the default application for PNG images is | 14:00 |
| raphinesse | Hey guys, my Upgrade to 19.04 aborted with a very generic error during the step "Installing the upgrades". System is bootable and seemingly well though. I would like to check what the "Distribution Upgrade" tool would have done in the remaining steps. Does anyone know where to find it's source or the source of whatever CLI tool it runs? | 14:01 |
| raphinesse | PS I was running the GUI upgrade tool | 14:02 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: can you recall what the error was about? | 14:03 |
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| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: Ugh, I had stashed the messages away, but now they are gone | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: can you boot succesfully to desktop right now? | 14:07 |
| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: yes, everything seems to work fine. The errors were during package installation. Triggers were looping during installation of `install-info` which was a dependency of `asymptote`. It complained about that, then ran a good time longer, gave an error dialog "Could not install the upgrades The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unstable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)." | 14:10 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: feel free to pastebin us what apt spits out | 14:11 |
| raphinesse | Obviously the cleanup step is missing so there are a lot packages to be autoremoved. I just wanted to see what the tool would have done other than that | 14:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !uptodate | raphinesse | 14:11 |
| ubottu | raphinesse: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 14:11 |
| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: no problems, no updates, just the leftover packages to be autoremoved | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: sounds good | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: you might also have a look at your kernel version & sources.list | 14:14 |
| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: so do you know what cleanup the dist upgrade tool does (apart from apt autoremove)? Or what other steps I could be missing? | 14:15 |
| raphinesse | Kernel is 5.0.0-13-generic, so that worked too | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: if apt isnt complaining anymore your system might be in a healthy state | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: if an upgrade breaks, or you cant boot, or apt gives errors | 14:16 |
| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: sources.list looks fine too. All entries are disco | 14:17 |
| interrobangd | is there any nice way to select btrfs snapshots with grub or any other bootloader?? | 14:17 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: great! enjoy your new install :p | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: what i usually do to cleanup, is bleachbit my system deeply, but thats just an opinion ok | 14:18 |
| raphinesse | lotuspsychje: OK, thanks for the quick help. Hava nice day! | 14:21 |
| lotuspsychje | raphinesse: same for you ; ) | 14:22 |
| ixil | hello, I'm trying to setup bionic(server) in lxc/lxd but can't work out how to make it use dhcp - I've been trying w/ netplan | 14:23 |
| lotuspsychje | ixil: come join #ubuntu-server for likeminded support | 14:24 |
| ixil | lotuspsychje: okay cheers | 14:24 |
| geosmin | what's the best way of changing permissions of a file (/dev/ttyUSB0) at boot | 14:33 |
| geosmin | i know alpine has /etc/mdev.conf, not so on ubuntu | 14:33 |
| ayekat | geosmin: what permissions does it have by default? | 14:34 |
| ayekat | I assume it's for communicating with something over a serial console, with a USB adapter? | 14:35 |
| geosmin | ayekat: yep. i could just add $user to the dialout group but i rather not give them more than they need | 14:35 |
| geosmin | then again i feel my solution might be a bit hacky | 14:36 |
| genii | geosmin: Simplest is to execute a chown command in /etc/rc.local | 14:38 |
| geosmin | ie. "chmod 666 $(cat dmesg | grep $usb_serial_identifier\|attached\|ttyUSB\| | awk '{print $NF}'" | 14:38 |
| geosmin | ^ my thinking, this is super ugly | 14:39 |
| geosmin | ie. grep dmesg for serial attached /dev/ttyUSBsomething and chmod 666 that file... | 14:39 |
| ayekat | I would have rather tried something with udev rules, but I'm not sure if (A) that applies to /dev/ttyUSB0, and (B) that is the most elegant way to go about it | 14:39 |
| ayekat | rc.local is about as ugly as it gets | 14:40 |
| geosmin | huh, i thought rc.local was deprecated | 14:40 |
| geosmin | at boot i did 'ls /etc/rc.local' and it didn't exist | 14:40 |
| ayekat | yes, it would require an additional service that runs rc.local - but at that point, it's better to just write a service that does the desired task directly | 14:41 |
| geosmin | also i'd like to mitigate against a situation where the usb serial adapter would show up as /dev//ttyUSB1 or something | 14:41 |
| ayekat | but for setting permissions/ownership of /dev files, I think that's not very clean anyway | 14:41 |
| geosmin | yeah... maybe i should just add $user to dialout | 14:41 |
| geosmin | is there a way to combine && and |? | 14:42 |
| dwigton | Printing lego instructions for the kids from a pdf. The first page is fine. subsequent pages are missing the blue channel. Is Ghostscript the right place for me to look for issues? | 14:42 |
| geosmin | ie. only pipe if exit code 0? | 14:42 |
| acerimmer | dwigton, it is | 14:43 |
| dirtsleeper | So super new to linux. Just installed ubuntu server. How would I go about getting the driver for my network card? | 14:43 |
| geosmin | i wrote this service, which works: http://ix.io/1HUr | 14:43 |
| jdr | What network card is it? | 14:43 |
| dwigton | acerimmer: does it have a log or would this just be a bug with gs 9.26? | 14:44 |
| dirtsleeper | realtek RTL/8111/8168/8411 | 14:44 |
| acerimmer | dwigton, I dont' know but I'm pretty sure you can run ghostscript in verbose mode for more info. check man ghostscript | 14:45 |
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| Guest31726 | Hi, I've Just Installed Ubuntu on my LENOVO V145-AST And Wifi does not work, Can anyone please help me? :) | 14:47 |
| acerimmer | !wifi | Guest31726 | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Guest31726: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 14:48 |
| roworu | Hello! Which irc client do you guys using? | 14:52 |
| dirtsleeper | freenode | 14:52 |
| acerimmer | roworu, please don't take polls in this channel. | 14:52 |
| rrolf | what did u say about wifi hm | 14:53 |
| rrolf | could you maybe be more specific, that is very confusing. Sorry | 14:54 |
| acerimmer | rrolf, perhaps restate your question details | 14:55 |
| rrolf | I have just installed Ubuntu(newest version) on my Lenovo V145-15AST, but Wifi does not work, can anyone please help me?:) | 14:56 |
| acerimmer | !wifi | rrolf read this. | 14:56 |
| ubottu | rrolf read this.: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 14:56 |
| JohnGavr | rrolf, have you got ethernet? | 14:58 |
| rrolf | hmmm | 14:58 |
| dirtsleeper | acerimmer: is there one of those for ethernet? | 14:58 |
| acerimmer | dirtsleeper, rrolf sorry, but that's the wrong wiki. let me look again. | 14:58 |
| rrolf | i dont have wifi to show available connections if thats | 14:59 |
| JohnGavr | rrolf, Ubuntu has Software & Updates and Driver recognizer | 14:59 |
| rrolf | oh | 14:59 |
| JohnGavr | If you have a ethernet connection go there and install them | 14:59 |
| rrolf | i share internet from phone via USB | 14:59 |
| rrolf | atm | 14:59 |
| rrolf | ok | 15:00 |
| JohnGavr | then go to Software & Updates | 15:00 |
| JohnGavr | Additional Drivers tab | 15:00 |
| rrolf | i have tabs: ALL, INstalled and updates | 15:01 |
| JohnGavr | you open Ubuntu Software | 15:02 |
| rrolf | yes | 15:02 |
| JohnGavr | I want you to open Software & Updates | 15:02 |
| acerimmer | JohnGavr, take this to a private chat maybe? | 15:02 |
| rrolf | ok i think i did | 15:02 |
| rrolf | Ubuntu software | 15:03 |
| JohnGavr | acerimmer, i think that here is Support Channel. No off-topic conversation | 15:03 |
| rrolf | No additional drivers avaiable hm | 15:04 |
| acerimmer | I didn't say off-topic. Just quite detailed. no worries | 15:04 |
| JohnGavr | we go to private chat now acerimmer for more details | 15:05 |
| campdog | I have been using Ubuntu since 2014 and am thinking about switching to Arch to reduce load on my old machine. Any advice? | 15:05 |
| acerimmer | campdog, about arch? no. ubuntu support only. however, an old machine would probably enjoy lubuntu or xubuntu. perhaps try before you switch | 15:06 |
| cmm11 | switching to arch wont reduce load, what desktop environment you use will | 15:06 |
| JohnGavr | campdog, arch is another philosophy distro! | 15:08 |
| dirtsleeper | can anyone help with getting connected to the internet on server 19.04? | 15:08 |
| acerimmer | dirtsleeper, no wifi or ethernet? | 15:09 |
| dirtsleeper | no ethernet it seems. when i try sudo apt-get update, it can't resolve any of the ips | 15:10 |
| acerimmer | ping www.google.com | 15:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | campdog: If you would like advice about other distributions, including Arch, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic forum. Please asking Ubuntu support related question only in here. | 15:10 |
| dirtsleeper | failure in name resolution | 15:11 |
| lapidary | dirtsleeper, try: ip address | 15:11 |
| dirtsleeper | yea the ethernet and wireless cards show up | 15:12 |
| lapidary | dirtsleeper, you have a global address assigned to you? | 15:13 |
| dirtsleeper | I'm not sure how to check that | 15:13 |
| lapidary | run: ip address... that will list all addresses on all network cards | 15:14 |
| dirtsleeper | so it says enp4s0: link/ether ipv6 brd ipv6 all f | 15:16 |
| lapidary | how about a line that begins with inet or inet6 | 15:17 |
| dirtsleeper | says inet: 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo and inet6: ::1/128 scope host | 15:18 |
| lapidary | that's your local link; any others? | 15:18 |
| dirtsleeper | no, that's it | 15:18 |
| geosmin | i want a script to run at user login, what's the file for managing this? | 15:19 |
| geosmin | (i know there's a GUI for it in settings, but i want to set it up using ascript) | 15:19 |
| JohnGavr | geosmin, you need a startup application? | 15:19 |
| lapidary | dirtsleeper, mk. The orginal question was how do you connect, is this computer wired, or are you supposed to connect to a wireless network? | 15:20 |
| dirtsleeper | It's wired | 15:20 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, make a .desktop in ~/.config/autostart/ | 15:20 |
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| genii | geosmin: https://askubuntu.com/questions/85985/how-can-i-make-a-script-run-automatically-after-gdm-login-and-logout | 15:21 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, i'd take a look at /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml | 15:21 |
| ioria | geosmin, i'd take a look at /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml | 15:22 |
| dirtsleeper | how do i do that? | 15:23 |
| rrolf | ja, mann it works, thanks:) | 15:24 |
| JohnGavr | rrolf, i am glad to hear it | 15:24 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, sorry, check /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml | 15:24 |
| rrolf | wee finally ubuntu, windows got slow the day i bought the computer | 15:24 |
| rrolf | orgasm to run ubuntu thx | 15:25 |
| dirtsleeper | ioria, that file doesn't exist. the only thing in that folder is 50-cloud-init.yaml | 15:26 |
| JohnGavr | rrolf, see private message | 15:26 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, ok, paste it | 15:27 |
| geosmin | i guess my question is when setting startup applications through the GUI, what file does that create where? | 15:27 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, but that's not the server edition , iirc | 15:28 |
| dirtsleeper | how do i check the version? | 15:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | geosmin: a {appname}.desktop in ~/.config/autostart/ | 15:29 |
| dirtsleeper | the file just says network: ethernets: {} version: 2 | 15:29 |
| genii | geosmin: If you want to the script globally for all users then see the instructions for GDM that I already linked to | 15:30 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, and did you install a desktop env ? a gui , i mean ? | 15:31 |
| dirtsleeper | no | 15:31 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, cat /var/log/installer/media-info | 15:32 |
| jackbaker | Is there a reason why i cannot download trusty updates? Apt-get sits stuck waiting. On another computer i try to manually download from ubuntu archive and various other mirrors but all only go about 80-90% before they just hang. If i try the same with Xenial packages i have no problem. I have VPNed all over the world and same result so i doubt its my ISP. Also I am in USA too. | 15:33 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ it's dead jim | 15:33 |
| cfhowlett | !trusty | 15:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade | 15:33 |
| dirtsleeper | that doesn't exist | 15:34 |
| dirtsleeper | the installer folder has 4 files | 15:34 |
| jackbaker | yes but why would the last updates still not be available? | 15:34 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ support has ended. | 15:34 |
| cfhowlett | in other words, time to upgrade | 15:34 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, cat /etc/issue | 15:34 |
| dirtsleeper | curtin install cfg, curtin install log, installer journal subiquity curtin install subiquity debug | 15:34 |
| lordcirth__ | In the past, eol packages have been available for a bit, but no guarantees | 15:35 |
| dirtsleeper | Ubuntu 19.04 | 15:35 |
| jackbaker | Yes but i can't, Lng story short Jetson TK! and 16.04 is not fully supported | 15:35 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ say what? 16.04 is LTS i.e. 5 years of support | 15:35 |
| cfhowlett | and the latest LTS is 18.04 | 15:36 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, dod you remember the iso file you used to install ? | 15:36 |
| dirtsleeper | ubuntu-19.04-live-server-amd64 | 15:36 |
| jackbaker | I cant use the latest on a Nvidia Jetson TK1 Dev board | 15:36 |
| jackbaker | 14.04 is the latest supported | 15:36 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ false. https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1021252/jetson-tk1/upgrade-jetson-tk1-to-ubuntu-16-04/ | 15:37 |
| jackbaker | like i said I cant, | 15:38 |
| jackbaker | holding back xorg is not an option for me | 15:38 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, confirm that network-manager it's not running : ps -A | grep Network | 15:38 |
| dirtsleeper | nothing happened when i typed that | 15:39 |
| jackbaker | I'm confused why the last Trusty updates cant be downloaded. I understand nothing new will come but why cant i get what was already committed? | 15:39 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, for some reason your network netplan file has not been configured, so you nedd to edit the 50-cloud-init.yaml file | 15:40 |
| SwedeMike | jackbaker: try doing "apt clean" and try to download them again? I don't know why it doesn't work and it's hard to tell from your description | 15:41 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, something like this : https://linuxhint.com/install_netplan_ubuntu/ | 15:41 |
| dirtsleeper | how can i shutdown without waiting? | 15:42 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, waiting what ? | 15:42 |
| dirtsleeper | i do sudo shutdown | 15:42 |
| dirtsleeper | and then it says i can do shutdown -c to cancel | 15:42 |
| dirtsleeper | then it takes a minute or so to actually shutdown | 15:42 |
| cfhowlett | dirtsleeper/ man shutdown will tell you how to instant kill | 15:43 |
| SwedeMike | dirtsleeper: you need to figure out what makes it take that long, sounds like something isn't shutting down the way it should so there is excessive waiting. | 15:43 |
| ioria | dirtsleeper, i'd first focus on your network issue | 15:43 |
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| leftyfb | dirtsleeper: the quick answer to that is: sudo shutdown -h now | 15:46 |
| JohnGavr | leftyfb, haha | 15:47 |
| jackbaker | SwedeMike: This is a fresh 14.04 install right now doing the first apt-get update. The problem is i can't grab the update from any computer via http / ftp / rsync to the main server or any of the 10 mirrors i have tried. for example, how could i download this I can only download 6.0kB out of 6.1kB no matter what. /ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/restricted/source/ | 15:49 |
| jackbaker | Is there a final release large download i can grab somewhere? | 15:50 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ from here?? http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/ | 15:51 |
| dirtsleeper | so i reinstalled while connected to ethernet and it seemed to fix the problem. thanks for the help everyone :D | 15:51 |
| ioria | yes, that was the issue | 15:52 |
| leftyfb | jackbaker: why did you install a fresh instance of a version that just went EOL? | 15:53 |
| cfhowlett | leftyfb/ he needs specific support for a device that seems to be restricted to 14.04 | 15:55 |
| jackbaker | cfhowlett: I have to use Nvidia's provided files leftyfb: yes, https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra-r217 | 15:56 |
| jackbaker | leftyfb: i was on here previously and the consensus was that i should upgraded to 16.04 . I tried that and things broke. after alot messing around with it for a day i finally concluded i needed to put on a fresh image to get back to what was working. | 15:59 |
| dcarmich | I'm trying to create a local apt mirror on Ubuntu, and have successfully mirrored all the packages via apt-mirror. But, when I use apt-ftparchive to create the Packages file, I'm getting a lot of "archive is too short" messages even though dpkg -I on the affected packages does not show any errors. Should I re-download the packages that were mentioned? | 16:00 |
| cfhowlett | jackbaker/ this might be relevant reading https://www.ubuntu.com/engage/14-04-esm | 16:01 |
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| Qwerty710 | hi | 16:06 |
| rrolf | hey :) | 16:07 |
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| OerHeks | :-) | 16:30 |
| isomari | can someone remind me of the name of the package manager? Not apt, the one with a frontend. | 16:35 |
| JohnGavr | Synaptic Manager? isomari | 16:36 |
| isomari | JohnGavr: thanks | 16:36 |
| leftyfb | isomari: that isn't THE package manager. It is an optional GUI wrapper for dpkg/apt which isn't installed by default. | 16:42 |
| geosmin | is there a way to preserve $USER when running as sudo? | 16:44 |
| OerHeks | geosmin, interesting question, what is your goal? i guess sudo does not keep $USER env | 16:46 |
| leftyfb | geosmin: there is a way. Give me a bit to find it again. It's not with that variable though | 16:47 |
| ayekat | SUDO_USER - but that knowledge might be useless because we don't know what they're trying to do | 16:48 |
| leftyfb | interesting, I didn't even know about $SUDO_USER. I think there's command you can run to get it as well | 16:48 |
| ayekat | yes, the command is `echo $SUDO_USER` :-P | 16:49 |
| leftyfb | ayekat: besides that | 16:49 |
| OerHeks | sudo sh -c 'echo $SUDO_USER' # https://askubuntu.com/questions/866567/can-i-access-the-originating-user-variable-from-within-a-script-run-with-sudo | 16:49 |
| OerHeks | leftyfb, yeah, this is new to me too | 16:50 |
| ayekat | `sudo sh -c env` for the full list of envvars... might help | 16:50 |
| ayekat | geosmin: as you want to preserve specific environment variables, have a look at the --preserve-env option | 16:52 |
| ayekat | geosmin: but as already mentioned, it may help us help you more efficiently if you told us your real goal | 16:52 |
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| ayekat | because I feel like this is just an XY problem | 16:54 |
| OerHeks | geosmin, care to share your goal? | 16:54 |
| leftyfb | ls -l `tty` | awk '{print $3}' and stat -c '%U' "$(tty)" # who am i # used to work but doesn't for some reason anymore | 16:54 |
| leftyfb | I wonder why "who am i" doesn't work anymore | 16:57 |
| leftyfb | interesting, it works in xterm, but not gnome-terminal or terminator | 16:58 |
| lordcirth__ | leftyfb, you mean as opposed to 'whoami'? | 16:59 |
| leftyfb | lordcirth__: correc | 16:59 |
| leftyfb | t | 16:59 |
| lordcirth__ | leftyfb, the emulator shouldn't matter? 'man who' | 16:59 |
| leftyfb | lordcirth__: whoami will return root, who am i will return the original user that called sudo su | 17:00 |
| lordcirth__ | Oh I see | 17:00 |
| leftyfb | lordcirth__: it does. Something about emulators not using utmp/wtmp or something | 17:00 |
| mikubuntu | just did an update and got an error msg in the output that worries me -- "no matching swap available" that seems to be associated with initram process -- isn't that boot? here's a pic i took of the term, do i have anything to worry about upon restart? https://imagebin.ca/v/4fojmsU8a5sM | 17:14 |
| Catzz | Are there any decent free recovery utilities? | 17:15 |
| yeats | mikubuntu: 'sudo blkid' should show the actual UUID for each partition | 17:16 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: just rm /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume.conf | 17:16 |
| yeats | Catzz: as in disk data recovery? if so, probably not | 17:16 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: and run update-initramfs -u again | 17:16 |
| tomreyn | hi Catzz, did copying the data on windows not work out then? | 17:17 |
| yeats | Catzz: there are techniques like using dd to copy whatever data it can get onto a new drive | 17:17 |
| Catzz | tomreyn: Hey, I've been having such a rough day | 17:17 |
| geosmin | 'false || echo oh no && exit' is exiting even if true. i understand why but don't know how to properly set that up | 17:17 |
| Catzz | My heart yearns when I see your name haha | 17:17 |
| Catzz | (whatever that means) | 17:18 |
| yeats | seem to remember something that was a wrapper of dd that would make multiple passes to try and get all the blocks on a disk | 17:18 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: hehe, i feel pleased, but turst, me, i'm not this special. what's the issue now? | 17:18 |
| tomreyn | *trust me | 17:18 |
| lordcirth__ | yeats, ddrescue; not a wrapper though. | 17:19 |
| yeats | ah https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ | 17:19 |
| Catzz | tomreyn: Basically, been going in circles, the whole thing is a mess. In a nutshell, I am gonna make a clean copy of everything on the internal HD to external HD | 17:19 |
| Catzz | and do a complete clean install of both drives, wiping them both completely | 17:19 |
| yeats | lordcirth__: thanks - that's what I was remembering - been a while since I needed it | 17:19 |
| lordcirth__ | geosmin, what do you actually want to do? | 17:20 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: i see. so you wer eunable to copy the data off the m.2 nmve? | 17:20 |
| Catzz | well yes and no | 17:20 |
| yeats | Catzz: not sure what you've tried so far, but you might give ddrescue a go? | 17:20 |
| Catzz | I got the most important folder, but there is more stuff to it | 17:20 |
| Catzz | but I mean it's not the stuff to die for | 17:21 |
| Catzz | yeats: Didn't give that one a go | 17:21 |
| yeats | Catzz: that worked well for me a number of years ago with a failing HDD | 17:21 |
| geosmin | lordcirth__: try a command, if fails error out and exit | 17:21 |
| vlt | Catzz: Did you manage to copy all the bytes from the source device? (I mean the raw device, not files from a file system.) | 17:22 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: last time i read you here the m.2 'nvme' (really an ssd) wasn't accessible from linux, did this change? if it's unchanged, all those tools discussed here won't help. | 17:22 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: sorry got an important call from a ham and cheese sammich vers 1.5 .. got term open now, and you want me to run -- " rm /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume.conf " just like that? | 17:22 |
| Catzz | vlt: Not sure to which copying you are refering to? The folder? | 17:22 |
| Catzz | tomreyn: Unchanged, I used robocopy to copy the directory I needed | 17:22 |
| lordcirth__ | geosmin, false || (echo oh no; echo exit) | 17:22 |
| vlt | Catzz: I explicetly don't mean folders. I mean the whole device. | 17:23 |
| Catzz | but using robocopy prooved that the M.2 is fine, not failing | 17:23 |
| Catzz | I didn't make a 1:1 copy of the device, just one 30GB folder vlt | 17:23 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: i'm not 100% certain about the path, type those path compnnents word by word, keep double tapping tab to tab expand. | 17:23 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: but other than that, yes. you could also just edit it and comment out the one RESUME line in there. | 17:23 |
| tomreyn | no need to rm then | 17:23 |
| vlt | Catzz: Can you describe the goal? | 17:23 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: lost me .. lol | 17:24 |
| Catzz | vlt: the goal is to recover what that I can left and make a complete clean install | 17:24 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: give me a minute | 17:24 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: K | 17:24 |
| vlt | Catzz: Why do you say "recover" instead of just "copy"? Is there a problem? | 17:25 |
| Catzz | vlt: I cannot boot into W10, after entering my password it takes about 20 minutes to display the main interface | 17:25 |
| Catzz | and even than it's just a black screen and a task bar | 17:26 |
| vlt | Catzz: What is W10? | 17:26 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: run this gedit admin:///etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume then place a "#" (without the quotation marks) in front of the "resume=..." line (there is probably no other line in there anyways) | 17:26 |
| Catzz | Windows 10 haha vlt, not very suitable for an ubuntu channel I know | 17:26 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: so that it becomes "#resume=..." | 17:26 |
| vlt | Catzz: Oh | 17:26 |
| vlt | Catzz: So, what did you do, ehat did you expect to happen and what happened instead? | 17:27 |
| vlt | *what | 17:27 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k, gimme sec | 17:27 |
| Catzz | but I got an idea, I will just boot to Ubuntu, and copy everything off of my HD to my external HD and than make a clean install vlt , at least that's the plan now | 17:27 |
| Catzz | vlt: it's a long story, I tried so many things, I wandered off the main problem too much | 17:28 |
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| mikubuntu | tomreyn: installing gedit | 17:29 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: oh i was thinking you already had it | 17:29 |
| tomreyn | sud can alternatively use this: sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume | 17:30 |
| tomreyn | *you | 17:30 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: so now you need help with backing up the data from the existing HDD (the non m.2 non SSD storage)? | 17:31 |
| tomreyn | or do you have a way forward alreadY? | 17:32 |
| Catzz | I think I am okay tomreyn, I will just use ubuntu to copy everything of an non SSD storage to my external HDD | 17:33 |
| Catzz | I think I will need help with completely reseting everything on my PC though once I copied everything | 17:33 |
| Catzz | because I don't want to have any booting issues and stuff I had | 17:33 |
| Catzz | just a regular clean install haha | 17:33 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZYcgvrNDbz/ | 17:34 |
| Catzz | also, should I boot ubuntu UEFI or Legacy mode | 17:34 |
| Catzz | sorry if that's a really basic question, I am just a total idiot for this | 17:34 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: you'll need to boot in the mode you installed ubuntu in. that's an installation on the HDD you're booting, or from a stick? | 17:34 |
| Catzz | I am using Live USB tomreyn | 17:35 |
| tomreyn | okay then it wont matter | 17:35 |
| tomreyn | i'd prefer uefi | 17:35 |
| Catzz | maybe if I installed ubuntu, I could have accessed the M.2 hmm | 17:35 |
| tomreyn | i don't see how, but i also don't remember the details of why it was not available | 17:36 |
| Catzz | that's okay, I just have to do a better job of maintaing my laptop once I regain control of it | 17:37 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: please run and port the url: ls -l /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:37 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: what do you mean "port"? | 17:37 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: *poSt, sorry | 17:37 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k | 17:38 |
| tomreyn | Catzz: it doesn't seem like you did anything wrong so far. the m.2 is just bahaving weirdly, we lack details. i don't think you could have influenced this to the better or worse. | 17:39 |
| Catzz | I didn't mess anything up per se, but I wasted a lot of time | 17:39 |
| tomreyn | you learnt, not wasted time. ;-) | 17:40 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: i don't have a prompt in the term, last output line was " ** (gedit:31267): WARNING **: 13:30:33.163: Operation not supported " | 17:41 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: close the gedit window, then press ctrl-c on the temrinal, this should bring back the prompt. | 17:41 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k | 17:42 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/w9dw | 17:44 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume (then edit it as previously discussed), then: sudo update-initramfs -u | 17:45 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k | 17:46 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: so it should look like this in the nano-term? GNU nano 2.9.3 /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume Modified #RESUME=UUID=cc970657-26b8-4051-9f6c-1207e23c518d | 17:49 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: yes | 17:49 |
| tomreyn | ctrl-x to save, under the given file name, and exit | 17:50 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: then just exit nano? how do i exit? | 17:50 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: see above ;) | 17:50 |
| lordcirth__ | mikubuntu, the important shortcuts are all listed at the bottom. | 17:50 |
| mikubuntu | lordcirth__: i see the shortcuts but don't really understand. can i just go to file: close tab? | 17:52 |
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| tomreyn | mikubuntu: no, you shoul dnot. instead, press and hold the 'Ctrl' key, then tap the 'x' key. | 17:54 |
| tomreyn | ...then release 'Ctrl' | 17:54 |
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| mikubuntu | tomreyn: it asked me if i wanted to save and i just entered " Y " was that right? now at the bottom it queries me : File Name to Write: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume | 17:56 |
| JimBuntu | mikubuntu, press and release ENTER or RETURN, whichever you have | 17:58 |
| pootis | hi how get ubuntu 32 | 17:58 |
| lordcirth__ | pootis, you mean a 32-bit version? | 17:59 |
| pootis | ye | 17:59 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: so i have returned to prompt in the term, is there a way to check if everything kool? | 17:59 |
| teward | pootis: didn't you just get an answer for this from the Lubuntu guys in #lubuntu...? | 17:59 |
| pootis | ye but lubuntu no 32b | 18:00 |
| pootis | how ubuntu 32b | 18:00 |
| pootis | 19 | 18:00 |
| teward | >.> the answer is "you don't without upgrading from 18.04 32-bit" since no Ubuntu releases have 32-bit installer ISOs anymore. | 18:00 |
| teward | same answer the Lubuntu guys gave you | 18:00 |
| teward | that includes Lubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc. | 18:01 |
| pootis | :( | 18:01 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: you can post the file again, but i think you did it fine. | 18:02 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: if you want to post the file again, run: cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:02 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: hmmmm, post which file .. | 18:03 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k | 18:03 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: don't forget you still need to run sudo update-initramfs -u | 18:03 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/5ipp | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: looks fine | 18:04 |
| mikubuntu | thx so much tomreyn -- so i should be safe to restart now? | 18:05 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: if you ran sudo update-initramfs -u then i would think so | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: you could share it's output also if you like a second thought. | 18:06 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: nope, don't think i did that one | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | well i mentioned it three times, so ;-) | 18:06 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: k | 18:07 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: my brain is a mystery wrapped in an enigma | 18:07 |
| mikubuntu | like windows 95 | 18:07 |
| tomreyn | sorry to hear this. | 18:07 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: not easy being me | 18:08 |
| leonardus | When I upgrade, why does it say "Your lockscreen has been disabled and will remain disabled until you reboot"? Is there a technical reason for this? | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: we are almost done, it's cool. | 18:08 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: output: sudo update-initramfs -u [sudo] password for mikubuntu: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-48-generic cryptsetup: WARNING: target cryptswap1 has a random key, skipped | 18:10 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: i haven't seen this message, but can make a guess: the screen locking software was upgraded, and the process needed to be killed, and the new screen lock application would have to be started at the ame time as the rest of the desktop (which is not possible now since that is already running) | 18:10 |
| leonardus | that would make sense | 18:10 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: so this is basically saying you won't be able to suspend to disk. which i guess you're aware of, and fine with. | 18:12 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: unaware, and don't know what that means .. lol | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: at least the system is now aware that suspend to disk cannot work, it previously wasn't. | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: another term for "suspend to disk" is "hibernate". either way, you should be safe to reboot now. | 18:13 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: ok, i'll take your word for it .. lol .. thx again, i'll give it a try | 18:13 |
| MannyLNJ | I have a Ubuntu system named PrintServer how do I map /shared/Emanuel/thunderbird to /home/emanuel/email on a system called Brain both are on my network | 18:16 |
| maria_swe | I am dreaming a persistent ubuntu that I can keep in a usb drive and stick and run it in every vmware installed OS. | 18:16 |
| maria_swe | is that possible | 18:16 |
| leftyfb | MannyLNJ: you can use ssh, samba or nfs. Either way, you mount it like you mount anything else. | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | maria_swe: you mean you would like to install ubuntu to a usb stick? sure, that's possible. | 18:18 |
| fukubuntu | . | 18:18 |
| fukubuntu | . | 18:18 |
| fukubuntu | . | 18:18 |
| fukubuntu | . | 18:18 |
| fukubuntu | . | 18:18 |
| groke | that was fast | 18:18 |
| maria_swe | tomreyn: yeah but thats not all. I want to have an persistent ubuntu that I can keep my files in it. also It should boot in wmware... | 18:19 |
| MannyLNJ | leftyfb, I don't really know how to do that. I need help setting it up | 18:19 |
| tomreyn | maria_swe: i don't know vmware too well, does it bios boot, uefi boot, or both? | 18:20 |
| maria_swe | tomreyn: No. it's a virtual machine! | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | i know that much ;) | 18:20 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, ... VM's emulate hardware. Does VMWare emulate BIOS or EFI? | 18:20 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, are youy use VmWare Fusion, EsXi or Workstation? | 18:21 |
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: Fusion | 18:21 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, This is for Vmwae Workstaion it MAY apply to Fusion https://www.eltima.com/usb-in-virtual-machine/#Native | 18:24 |
| curbs | hey folks, I've got an ubuntu 18.04 server with wordpress thats inherited, the IP address was changed, trying to bring it back up and I'm getting a 500 error. The apache log shows a php error - https://pastebin.com/jqELz7Z8 - can anyone point me in the right direction? | 18:25 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, it looks like Vmware Fusion might not support booting from a Flash drive directly see https://communities.vmware.com/thread/151149 | 18:27 |
| tuxi | hello i need a memtest for ubuntu, is there any software to do so? | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | maria_swe: here's how to select the 'firmware type' (UEFI or legacy BIOS) on vmware fusion 11 - this should help you figure out which firmware type you boot ubuntu systems with normally: https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Fusion/11/com.vmware.fusion.using.doc/GUID-4219647D-7736-4F25-8B1F-6B2799A03477.html | 18:27 |
| leonardus | tuxi: memtest should work regardless of OS | 18:27 |
| OerHeks | curbs, maybe ##wordpress or #ubuntu-server is more suitable for that issue.. personally i would reinstall, no surprises hidden | 18:28 |
| mikubuntu | tomreyn: booted fine, thx again | 18:28 |
| tuxi | leonardus yes i thought with the dvd but i didn't find the memtest on dvd | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | mikubuntu: very well | 18:28 |
| curbs | OerHeks theres existing data on there unfortunately. I'm also on #wordpress. I'll give #ubuntu-server a shot, thanks | 18:28 |
| mikubuntu | later gators, i have to get to the end of the internet by sundown | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | maria_swe: oh, you can ignore what i wrote if its incapable of booting off an external USB. | 18:28 |
| dax | curbs: it's a filesystem permissions issue. the user that your web server (apache or whatever) and thus php are running under doesn't have access to read the file /etc/wordpress/config-10.1.1.25.php | 18:29 |
| OerHeks | curbs, no need to tell you you should start with a backup ( plan) | 18:29 |
| === jetgirl is now known as tuxi | ||
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: there are ways I guess but not easy... At least not for me.. | 18:44 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, would you consider a different virtual computer program? | 18:44 |
| maria_swe | Btw Is it a specific .iso for installing ubuntu in to wmware fusion or I just need to download the latest ubuntu .iso from official site and install it in vmware fusion? | 18:45 |
| OerHeks | just the iso, or download a ready vm | 18:45 |
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: not deadlly needed so I can just skip it for a while | 18:46 |
| maria_swe | OerHeks: is ready vm hosted on official ubuntu site? or I should find on google? | 18:46 |
| OerHeks | https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/ | 18:46 |
| MannyLNJ | You don't install in Fusuin. You use Fusion or VirtualBox to run a virtual machine. I would use the Bootin app to make an Unbuuntu USB drive with persistance | 18:46 |
| OerHeks | pretty automated | 18:46 |
| maria_swe | OerHeks: I want to boot it in wmware fusion so your link won't help fully | 18:47 |
| MannyLNJ | OerHeks, I *think* the problem is maria_swe is trying to run the created USB drive as a virtual machine and I don't believe that VmWare Fusion for Mac supports that, If maria_swe installs Virtual Box for OSX it will work | 18:47 |
| maria_swe | vmware fusion won't handle but Oracle Virtual Box does? | 18:48 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, I belive so | 18:48 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, see https://www.howtogeek.com/187721/how-to-boot-from-a-usb-drive-in-virtualbox/ | 18:49 |
| shibboleth | are there any official/semi-such opencv3/4 ppas? | 18:51 |
| alla | https://2no.co/2P9af5.jpeg | 18:53 |
| maria_swe | let's make this clear for OerHeks: I am wondering if it's possible to have a persistent usb ubuntu in my wmware fusion (mac os) | 18:53 |
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: let me read the link. thank you | 18:54 |
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: that link explains it for windows. | 18:56 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, at the end it says The process is basically the same on Linux and Mac host systems. You’ll need to use the same sort of VBoxManage command to create a file representing the raw disk, but you’ll need to specify the path to the disk device on your Linux or Mac system. | 18:57 |
| MannyLNJ | The Open Foam wiki has some tips and workarounds that may help you adapt this process to Linux or Mac hosts. The Using a raw host hard disk from a guest section in VirtualBox’s official documentation may also help. | 18:57 |
| OerHeks | why not a regular installed vm, dynamical | 18:57 |
| OerHeks | persistence is just the iso without updates, and a storage part. | 18:57 |
| maria_swe | MannyLNJ: You would easyly do thast part "VBoxManage command to create a file representing the raw disk" but not me :) | 18:58 |
| OerHeks | hint: daily live http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/ | 18:58 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, No I wouldn't I don't know much about OS X but I would find a forum where people do and ask there | 18:58 |
| maria_swe | OerHeks: that works in a usb http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/ ??? | 18:59 |
| OerHeks | maria_swe, sure | 19:01 |
| maria_swe | OerHeks: but how do I boot it? | 19:01 |
| OerHeks | just make it like a regular usb, usb creator on linux, dd | 19:02 |
| maria_swe | Like I am on my Macbook now | 19:02 |
| maria_swe | how would I boot it? | 19:02 |
| dax | wrong link, you probably want http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/ | 19:03 |
| maria_swe | stick in the usb with type-c - usb converter and click on what?, | 19:03 |
| dax | (the other one is autogenerated daily test ISOs) | 19:03 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, point your hypervisor at it and boot it | 19:03 |
| maria_swe | lordcirth__: you mean turnof my macbook and change the boot setting to usb? | 19:08 |
| maria_swe | Am I getting you right? | 19:08 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, I thought you wanted to boot a VM from the USB? | 19:08 |
| maria_swe | lordcirth__: yes I want to boot it in vmware fusion | 19:09 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, so tell vmware to boot the USB. | 19:09 |
| MannyLNJ | lordcirth__, I don't think Vmware Fusion allows that | 19:09 |
| shibboleth | it can boot other installed OSes as a vm | 19:10 |
| maria_swe | lordcirth__: so that was the major subject here. We thought the vmware fusion won't let you do thst | 19:10 |
| OerHeks | you already found out that you can *create* a VM from a bootable USB drive, or use virtualbox | 19:10 |
| shibboleth | ofc, that is a major PITA with windows because it will have diff hwid (activation) | 19:10 |
| shibboleth | so i dunno what the fusion team were smoking | 19:11 |
| maria_swe | so vmware fusion can boot or not? | 19:11 |
| shibboleth | it can | 19:11 |
| maria_swe | and whick link is right? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current or http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/ | 19:11 |
| tomreyn | the latter. | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | i'm not convinced that vmware fusion does what you want, but that's totally a topic for a different channel. | 19:13 |
| maria_swe | well just confused with that part | 19:14 |
| maria_swe | whats different between bionic daily live and regular bionic? | 19:14 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, it just has the updates already | 19:14 |
| groke | svärje! | 19:14 |
| maria_swe | lordcirth__: which one have the updates? | 19:14 |
| maria_swe | daily live ? | 19:14 |
| lordcirth__ | yes | 19:15 |
| maria_swe | I see... thank you | 19:15 |
| maria_swe | ok I will try that one tomorrow. | 19:15 |
| maria_swe | No I just want a stable ubuntu inside my vmware fusion | 19:15 |
| === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk | ||
| maria_swe | can I just install the ubuntu iso and install it... | 19:15 |
| maria_swe | no need to seek for another specific vm version right | 19:16 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, yes you can http://hplgit.github.io/teamods/ubuntu/vmware/mac.html | 19:16 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, wrong link | 19:16 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, I'm sorry http://hplgit.github.io/teamods/ubuntu/vmware/mac.html is the correct link | 19:17 |
| maria_swe | link looks exactly same | 19:18 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, it is I thought I pasted the wrong link originally | 19:18 |
| maria_swe | :) | 19:19 |
| maria_swe | so this says just install the official iso from site | 19:19 |
| maria_swe | regular desktop version and install to fusion | 19:19 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, you got it :-)\ | 19:20 |
| maria_swe | 18.04 LTS or 19.04 | 19:20 |
| maria_swe | 19.04 is the latest? | 19:20 |
| MannyLNJ | I'm looking for a good online backup provider for my Ubuntu systems. Suggestions please | 19:20 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, go with the LTS in most cases | 19:21 |
| maria_swe | LTS means? stable version? | 19:21 |
| groke | long term stable | 19:21 |
| lordcirth__ | !lts | 19:21 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 19:21 |
| maria_swe | I see. | 19:21 |
| maria_swe | so to not have trouble you recommend going with the LTS version | 19:21 |
| lordcirth__ | MannyLNJ, #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps | 19:21 |
| maria_swe | last question | 19:22 |
| lordcirth__ | maria_swe, if you get 19.04, you will need to upgrade every 6 months. | 19:22 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, Yes it has the longest support | 19:22 |
| maria_swe | can I update my ubuntu to 19.04 when ever I like? | 19:22 |
| maria_swe | in deed! sorry for that :/ sorry for that guys... everyone... | 19:22 |
| maria_swe | will be quiet now... | 19:23 |
| groke | yeah u can upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04 and so on | 19:24 |
| maria_swe | you guys been so polite and helpful. thank you so much for each of yours time. | 19:24 |
| groke | upgrading can be a risky business though, not always recommended | 19:25 |
| OerHeks | have fun! | 19:25 |
| groke | some upgrades are more safe like from LTS to newer LTS | 19:25 |
| MannyLNJ | maria_swe, gald I could help. I've gotten so much help here in the past | 19:25 |
| AlexPortable | Can someone help me getting my scanner to work? i've installed brsaneconfig4, simple-scan, sane-utils | 20:05 |
| curbs | OerHeks: yeah this is all in a VM, snapshotted and duped. | 20:05 |
| AlexPortable | It worked before in older versions, but now simple-scan can't see any scanner | 20:06 |
| curbs | OerHeks and I got it working, the config file didn't have proper permissions, and neither did the DB. | 20:06 |
| dcarmich | I've gotten to the point of being able to access my local repository and imported my gpg key on the client, but I now see: "Skipping acquire of configured file 'Packages' as repository 'http://172.16.171.136/repo InRelease'". The Packages file is in the specified directory. | 20:10 |
| dcarmich | This is my sources.list entry: 'deb http://172.16.171.136/repo/ /' (without the ') | 20:10 |
| dcarmich | What could cause this? | 20:10 |
| texla | Ubuntu 18.04.2 lts this is a new install due to clearing all partitions..This new install takes longer to boot than the previous install..It opens to bios menu then to grub menu then a black screen then to Ubuntu with the red dots scrolling until it finally reaches the login window..I have tried various fixes from ask ubuntu and other linux fixes but none have speeded up the booting time..I have run systemd-analyze blame but do not | 20:13 |
| texla | know if this tells me what to change..Is there any hope of getting help or is the boot time unajustable | 20:13 |
| === uinsda is now known as phiu | ||
| Noor_egy | hello i have ubuntu 18.04 installed and installed lamp on it then installed filezeaa ftp client but i cant brows my local www folder in filezilaa ?? | 20:16 |
| phiu | Noor_egy: your user may not have access to /var/www/html, it's not really recommended to use ftp if that's what filezilla uses, use sftp it's more secure | 20:17 |
| Noor_egy | phiu: i can access /var/ww | 20:18 |
| phiu | Noor_egy: in filezilla you can't access /var/www ? | 20:19 |
| Noor_egy | yes | 20:19 |
| Noor_egy | my local /var/www | 20:19 |
| phiu | hmm, no idea sorry | 20:20 |
| Noor_egy | many thanks phiu: | 20:20 |
| fuse5 | shlurb! | 20:23 |
| === eden is now known as Guest10734 | ||
| Noor_egy | what does this error mean | 20:33 |
| Noor_egy | error: snap "sftpclient" has "install-snap" change in progress | 20:33 |
| Noor_egy | when i try to install apps from software | 20:33 |
| phiu | Noor_egy: you could try installing it from the terminal sudo apt-get install sftpclient | 20:38 |
| Noor_egy | so there is no propleme with my ubuntu thats normal ? | 20:39 |
| phiu | it's installing for me from the software center using 16.04 here | 20:41 |
| phiu | Noor_egy: maybe it's just taking time to install and on the 2nd try it's giving that error? it's slow here for me | 20:42 |
| Noor_egy | ok thank you | 20:43 |
| phiu | Noor_egy: does it show in "snap list" ? | 20:45 |
| Noor_egy | umm i dont know whats propleme all ftp aplications cant have access to my local driver ! | 20:45 |
| Noor_egy | its installed now but also cant access my local driver | 20:46 |
| tatertotz | -r | 20:46 |
| sappheiros | https://manual.lubuntu.me/F/keyboard_shortcuts.html?highlight=keyboard%20shortcut appears not to be working -- is there a general default keyboard binding to send window to half of screen in lubuntu? | 20:46 |
| sappheiros | askubuntu indicates ctrl+super key+left, (super = windows key for example), but that doesn't work either | 20:46 |
| sappheiros | I can create the keybinding, but lubuntu wants me to enter a command associated with the keybinding; do you know the command? | 20:47 |
| === juboxi is now known as jubo2 | ||
| phiu | sappheiros: maybe there's some setting in the window manager lubuntu uses or so? | 20:49 |
| JonelethIrenicus | how do you set the scale factor for Qt applications? | 20:54 |
| JonelethIrenicus | instances not ran from the command prompt | 20:54 |
| === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL | ||
| sappheiros | phiu: i've looked but haven't found one | 21:00 |
| sappheiros | Is it important to exit all other applications when updating packages via muon package manager? | 21:07 |
| leftyfb | sappheiros: you might be better asking in #kde | 21:08 |
| sappheiros | leftyfb: which question? | 21:10 |
| leftyfb | sappheiros: the one specific to a KDE package manager | 21:11 |
| sappheiros | is muon package manager a KDE package manager? | 21:11 |
| * sappheiros checks https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.2/muon.html | 21:12 | |
| leftyfb | !info muon | 21:12 |
| ubottu | muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.8.0-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 341 kB, installed size 2101 kB | 21:12 |
| sappheiros | okay, thank you. that webpage didn't mention KDE | 21:13 |
| fishcooker | just need to cli for reading the email file only... afaik munpack but it creates a new file, ryouba | 21:13 |
| Noor_egy | https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=501836079680 suddenly some apps cant access places in my local driver and in the software it give permission button | 21:25 |
| Noor_egy | why | 21:25 |
| AlexPortable | Can someone help me getting my scanner to work? i've installed brsaneconfig4, simple-scan, sane-utils. It worked before in older versions, but now simple-scan can't see any scanner | 21:27 |
| JonelethIrenicus | AlexPortable: did you set the IP? | 21:27 |
| AlexPortable | yes | 21:28 |
| sappheiros | firefox keeps freezing up my latitude d620. is there an even lighter web browser you'd recommend? (i386) | 21:28 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable is it connected via USB or Netowrk?..if network do you know it's IP..if yes...does it respond to ping? | 21:28 |
| AlexPortable | network, yes i can ping it | 21:28 |
| AlexPortable | also the web interface opens and other devices can access it | 21:29 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable did you run the brother setup? yes or no | 21:29 |
| sappheiros | or maybe it is Google Documents that causes the freeze ... | 21:29 |
| sappheiros | but it seems often four tabs in firefox is enough to freeze it | 21:29 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable what ubuntu version? | 21:30 |
| AlexPortable | 18.04 | 21:30 |
| AlexPortable | tatertotz: yes, dpkg -i brscan.deb | 21:30 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable uh brother has a "installation script" | 21:31 |
| AlexPortable | do they? | 21:31 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable you did NOT use this? | 21:31 |
| AlexPortable | nope, the brother website just recommended me commands | 21:31 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable you SHOULD have | 21:31 |
| AlexPortable | https://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1b.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&redirect=on | 21:32 |
| texla | Ubuntu 18.04.2 lts this is a new install due to clearing all partitions..This new install takes longer to boot than the previous install..It opens to bios menu then to grub menu then a black screen then to Ubuntu with the red dots scrolling until it finally reaches the login window..I have tried various fixes from ask ubuntu and other linux fixes but none have speeded up the booting time..I have run systemd-analyze blame but do not | 21:32 |
| texla | <texla> know if this tells me what to change..Is there any hope of getting help or is the boot time unajustable | 21:32 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: usually is the webpage's content, bear in mind that a webpage can be just a simple static resume with very little memory/cpu footprint or it can be a dynamic page with many components and possible on html file with about 15 .css and 5 .js files loaded doing all kind of graphic manipulations | 21:32 |
| sappheiros | bprompt: yeah, i suspect Google Document is teh problem, not firefox ... but it does seem to often freeze if i have >3 tabs open ... but i guess i should test this more to be sure. maybe it is a webpage issue instead as you suggest | 21:34 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable I'm not going to tell you how to go about doing what you're wanting to do....so | 21:34 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: you can always try a chromium-based browser, like Opera, but if it's the page, and chances is very likely, you'll get the same jam on the same pages, depending on how many components is loading | 21:34 |
| AlexPortable | tatertotz: do you have a link to the install script? all i can find is the link i sent you, which tells me to run commands | 21:35 |
| sappheiros | bprompt: i thought chromium and chrome both required 64-bit ... | 21:35 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: not sure, I'd think they had a 32bit version... but you're on a core2 duo cpu, you "could" run a 64bit OS | 21:37 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable keep going down your current path / rabbit hole..i've been around long enough to know since there are more than one way to skin the rabbit or ways to accomplish a single task (4+3,5+2,6+1 ALL are the same) i'm just going to avoid or dodge a flame war | 21:37 |
| tatertotz | its just a printer..not worth it | 21:38 |
| AlexPortable | tatertotz I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you have a link to the installer? | 21:40 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: which printer model do you have there? | 21:40 |
| AlexPortable | MFC-6510DW | 21:40 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: where / how did yo look for the driver download? | 21:41 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: just checked, yeap, chrome/opera both have 32bit versions | 21:41 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: i followed this tutorial https://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1b.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&redirect=on | 21:42 |
| sappheiros | bprompt: thanks. i guess it's just brave that requires the 64-bit chrome (chromium?) | 21:42 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: brave? hmm dunno that one | 21:43 |
| sappheiros | bprompt: i am core2duo i think, but i dunno how you manage a 64-bit app on it ... | 21:43 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: okay but how did you get there? | 21:43 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: personally i'd be doing a web search for the hardware i want to make work, and "ubuntu" and the ubuntu version | 21:43 |
| bprompt | sappheiros: well, you'd install the 64bit OS first :) | 21:44 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: via google. this tutorial also worked for me in previous ubuntu versions (14.04 and if i recall correctly also 16.04), just not in 18.04 right now. | 21:44 |
| sappheiros | >___> gotcha | 21:45 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: i can't find anything on "MFC-6510DW", do you mean "MFC-J6510DW" maybe? | 21:47 |
| AlexPortable | er yes | 21:47 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: okay, then the first page i'd find is this https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcj6510dw_all | 21:48 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: i'd choose "linux" in step 1 and "Linux (deb)" in step 2, knowing that ubuntu uses .deb packages, being a deb(ian) derivate | 21:49 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: i'd then end up here, where all the drivers are available for download: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcj6510dw_all&os=128 | 21:49 |
| AlexPortable | thank you, i have not seen that webpage before | 21:50 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: do you know which ones to use from there? | 21:50 |
| AlexPortable | yes | 21:50 |
| AlexPortable | still quite odd that there are two pages | 21:50 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: so you have Ubuntu installed in amd64 or i386 architecture? | 21:51 |
| AlexPortable | 64 | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | ok | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | so this is the scanner driver then https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcj6510dw_all&os=128&dlid=dlf006645_000&flang=4&type3=566&dlang=true | 21:52 |
| tomreyn | unfortunately brother does not offer an apt repository, so you will need to download and install .deb files directly, and you won't get any updates unless you'll install them manually. | 21:53 |
| kreyren | Does ubuntu's kernel has HAVE_KRNEL_GZIP ? | 21:53 |
| kreyren | trying to compress gentoo kernel on chroot using ubuntu's kernel and it's failing | 21:53 |
| ThatGuyMeho | https://pastebin.com/stMX0wd6 <---- can someone explain this to me and how to fix it | 21:54 |
| tomreyn | kreyren: grep HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP /boot/config-$(uname -r) | 21:54 |
| kreyren | tomreyn, ty | 21:55 |
| dax | ThatGuyMeho: you've added a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ubuntu/ppa) that has no packages for distributions past bionic. you should probably remove it. | 21:55 |
| tomreyn | ThatGuyMeho: this message usually means that the repository listed there does not support your ubuntu release. | 21:56 |
| dax | ( https://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed ) | 21:56 |
| ThatGuyMeho | dont worry about it what i am trying to do is to make a bootable windows 10 usb with ubuntu and nothing so far that i know works | 21:56 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: their installer did not help much, also installing the package doesn't make it show up in simplescan | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: you need to do both, use these packages and follow the instructions / run commands to enable your scanner | 21:58 |
| AlexPortable | yes i did | 21:58 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: use the "driver install tool" on top of the download page | 21:59 |
| ThatGuyMeho | so has anyone attempted to make a bootable windows 10 usb using ubuntu 19.04 | 22:00 |
| tomreyn | and read the "notes before downloading" | 22:00 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn their installer did not help much | 22:00 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: did you run those commands (the ones for ubuntu only)? https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcj6510dw_all&faqid=faq00100548_000 | 22:01 |
| tatertotz | AlexPortable would it help if there was a youtube video or something you cold copy cat from? | 22:01 |
| jcotton | ThatGuyMeho: in ##windows we usually reccomend WoeUSB | 22:01 |
| tatertotz | could | 22:01 |
| ThatGuyMeho | well this is what i was trying to install in the first place but no dice | 22:02 |
| tomreyn | ThatGuyMeho: try "woeusb", i don'T know whether it works on 19.04, but it's known to usually work. | 22:02 |
| ThatGuyMeho | it dont seem to work in 19.04 | 22:03 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: yes. tatertotz no | 22:03 |
| ThatGuyMeho | thanks | 22:03 |
| jcotton | if.. oh | 22:03 |
| jcotton | he left | 22:03 |
| tomreyn | ThatGuyMeho: if you're looking for more help with this, you'll need to explain what you tried exactly, how it did not work | 22:04 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: if you're looking for more help with this, you'll need to explain what you tried exactly, how it did not work | 22:04 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: i've tried the install script, the commands provided on the old page, my own commands, all commands on the pre-required procedure page. I'm just not able to select the scanner in simple-scan. I think simple-scan is broken since it worked fine in 16.04 | 22:05 |
| genii | In case ThatGuyMeho returns, the webupd8 PPA which has current woeusb versions: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard | 22:07 |
| jcotton | unsplat | 22:08 |
| wr | trying to find the best lightweight DE on ubuntu | 22:09 |
| jcotton | "best" will vary wildly by person | 22:10 |
| jcotton | stand up a VM, try a few | 22:10 |
| jcotton | when you think you've found one you like actually install on real hardware | 22:10 |
| === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn | ||
| tomreyn | !flavours | wr | 22:12 |
| ubottu | wr: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 22:12 |
| wr | tomreyn, lubuntu? | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | wr: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.c…u-flavours | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | that link is https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | wr: maybe, it tries to keep requirements low | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | wr: there is also #lubuntu here on freenode if you have specific questions about this desktop environment. their website is https://lubuntu.me | 22:14 |
| wr | tomreyn, lxqt is lowest one? | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | wr: i don't have any statistics available. | 22:15 |
| wr | tomreyn, maybe o have to find some stats | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | or you just create a live usb and give it a try | 22:16 |
| Myth | Ubuntu 18.04 here. Just lost permissions for my external HDD after last update. Not sure what happened. How do I restore permissions to my HDD? | 22:16 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: sudo chown -R <username>: /path/to/mounted/exthdd | 22:17 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: any other suggestions | 22:17 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Thank you. I'll see if I can get that information together | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: other than explaining what exactly you did and how it did "no dice"? no. | 22:18 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: np | 22:18 |
| wr | Myth, first check permissions have | 22:18 |
| Myth | wr, How do? | 22:19 |
| AlexPortable | I sent you this message, you maybe didnt receive it: i've tried the install script, the commands provided on the old page, my own commands, all commands on the pre-required procedure page. I'm just not able to select the scanner in simple-scan. I think simple-scan is broken since it worked fine in 16.04 | 22:19 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Username is in terminal, right? X@Y ? | 22:20 |
| wr | Myth, ls -l /path/to/file | 22:20 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: yeah | 22:20 |
| EriC^^ | it's the X | 22:20 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Thought so. Thanks | 22:20 |
| Myth | wr, In my case, it is the entire driver | 22:20 |
| Myth | wr, I meant "drive" | 22:21 |
| wr | Myth, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/tysdxjfyXt/ | 22:21 |
| wr | stat -c "%a %n" /path/of/file | 22:22 |
| Myth | I'm having trouble defining the paths | 22:22 |
| wr | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions | 22:22 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" | 22:23 |
| EriC^^ | paste the link here | 22:23 |
| sappheiros | bprompt said there was 32bit chrome, but https://www.google.com/chrome/index.html only gives me 64bit linux download versions | 22:24 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: does brsaneconfig (or similar command from your original list of commands to run) return your scanner as a Device on network" then? | 22:24 |
| Myth | wr, Thank you | 22:24 |
| Myth | EriC^^, https://termbin.com/k1vni | 22:24 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: it's a ntfs partition, so permissions dont stick on these, they use 'fake permissions' fwiw | 22:26 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: type 'sudo chown -R $USER: /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C' it might temporarily let you do stuff as your user | 22:26 |
| EriC^^ | maybe the filemanager has some problem right now, and after a reboot or something it'll start letting you write to the partition as your user | 22:27 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: and indeed this message had not reached me, maybe because i had gotten disconnected | 22:27 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: oh! just noticed it's mounted read only | 22:27 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Okay. Thanks. Yeah, I have rarely had this sort of issue. | 22:27 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: type 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C' and you should be good, nevermind the | 22:27 |
| EriC^^ | sudo chown command | 22:27 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Aye. True. Usually mounts with write too | 22:28 |
| AlexPortable | brsaneconfig4 -q does not list the scanner as in 'devices on netwrok' | 22:28 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Already did the first command. That okay? | 22:28 |
| EriC^^ | yeah it's not a problem | 22:29 |
| tyler | I'm setting up a media server and tried to mount an NFS drive from my nas using this guide -- https://blog.whabash.com/posts/mounting_synology_nas_shared_folder_nfs_ubuntu_16_10 -- My issue is that sabnzbd will not allow me to choose a directory from the mounted folder as a completed downloads folder. As far as I can tell only a sudo command will reveal the contents of the directory and allow me to | 22:29 |
| tyler | manipulate it. | 22:29 |
| tomreyn | !who | AlexPortable | 22:31 |
| ubottu | AlexPortable: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) | 22:31 |
| qwebirc95665 | hi, i try connect to an remote server via thightvnc. i installed on my server thightvncserver, tried sudo DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session, export DISPLAY=:1, sudo startx, gnome-session, etc. I am able to open apps like gnome-terminal, but not a fully gnome-session. i found the following files on the server:.xsession-errors https://pastebin.com/qqLb3c9u and the config file for tightvncserver https://pastebin.com/q8w1fnik | 22:31 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn brsaneconfig4 -q does not list the scanner as in 'devices on netwrok' | 22:31 |
| tomreyn | if brsaneconfig4 -q does not list the scanner in 'devices on netwrok', this suggests you have not yet ran the command to configure it? | 22:31 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Looks better, but error while copying any files. Unmounted via GUI and remounted, then permissions stripped again to read only | 22:31 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: what was the error when copying the files? | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: from the link you posted initially, step 5: https://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1b.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&redirect=on | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: until yu did this simple.scan cannot work | 22:33 |
| Myth | EriC^^, I'll use the command again, then check and see | 22:33 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: try the remount,rw command again, and try "touch /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C/blabla | nc termbin.com 9999" | 22:33 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: also type "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999" | 22:33 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: yes i did that before | 22:34 |
| Myth | Ok, before I do that, the error: Error opening file “/mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C/Shadow Dragon.jpg”: No such file or directory | 22:35 |
| Myth | EriC^^, ^^^ | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: so you did this before, but then the next command explains how to verify it worked properly, and you ran that, too, or not? and if you ran it, it must have hshown you that you configuration did not succeed? | 22:35 |
| sappheiros | i search dictionary in muon package manager: how do i know which is compatible with lubuntu? | 22:35 |
| sappheiros | i don't know if it's gnome or kde for example | 22:36 |
| Myth | progenitor@Sanctum:~$ touch /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C/blabla | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:36 |
| Myth | touch: cannot touch '/mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C/blabla': No such file or directory | 22:36 |
| Myth | Oops. I'll use susepaste for the next one | 22:36 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" again please | 22:36 |
| * sappheiros tries installing 'dict' | 22:36 | |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: you mean the -q command? | 22:36 |
| AlexPortable | the -q command shows the scanner yes | 22:37 |
| Myth | EriC^^, https://termbin.com/xp3v | 22:37 |
| AlexPortable | i just insatlled xsane, and it can scan just fine, only simple-scan cannot | 22:37 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: but just the scanner model in the list of supported models, not as the network scanner you tried to configure? | 22:37 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Only one I did not do yet is: dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:37 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: both, on as in 'devices on network' and one as 401 in the supported models list. Skanlite software also seems to work now, only simple-scan not | 22:38 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: alright, run it | 22:38 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: this is now the opposite of what you said 8 minutes ago: <AlexPortable> tomreyn brsaneconfig4 -q does not list the scanner as in 'devices on netwrok' | 22:39 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: it's odd, it's almost as if it cant go to /mnt/286..... | 22:39 |
| sappheiros | dict is good enough i suppose. | 22:39 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: what changed in the meantime? | 22:39 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn yeah it did, then it didn't and then i added it back again | 22:39 |
| tatertotz | he actually followed the instructions this time around | 22:39 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: i see, glad you pointed this out, now that i asked. | 22:40 |
| tatertotz | because he was being hand held or guided | 22:40 |
| Myth | EriC^^, https://termbin.com/mpgm | 22:40 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: try "dmesg | grep sdc | nc termbin.com 9999" | 22:41 |
| tomreyn | AlexPortable: what does brsaneconfig4 -p report for "...% packaet loss"? | 22:41 |
| EriC^^ | also please try "cd /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C" | 22:42 |
| Myth | Ok | 22:42 |
| Myth | EriC^^, https://termbin.com/x42z | 22:42 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: looks good | 22:43 |
| Myth | I'll reboot then. Maybe that will help now that I've taken these steps | 22:44 |
| Myth | EriC^^, ^ | 22:44 |
| EriC^^ | yeah try rebooting | 22:44 |
| EriC^^ | did cd /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C work? | 22:44 |
| Myth | Thanks! brb with a report | 22:44 |
| qwebirc95665 | hi, i try connect to an remote server via thightvnc. i installed on my server thightvncserver, tried sudo DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session, export DISPLAY=:1, sudo startx, gnome-session, etc. I am able to open apps like gnome-terminal, but not a fully gnome-session. i found the following files on the server:.xsession-errors https://pastebin.com/qqLb3c9u and the config file for tightvncserver https://pastebin.com/q8w1fnik | 22:44 |
| Myth | EriC^^, ? | 22:44 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: did you try "cd /mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C" with any luck? | 22:44 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Oh, yes. The terminal is there now | 22:45 |
| EriC^^ | oh cool | 22:45 |
| EriC^^ | try "touch blabla" | 22:45 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Within terminal, cd to mnt/XYZ, the touch command does not work | 22:47 |
| Myth | touch: cannot touch '/mnt/28656C1A26D0DB7C/blabla': No such file or directory | 22:47 |
| EriC^^ | odd try rebooting t see if this weird spell will vanish | 22:47 |
| Myth | ok | 22:48 |
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| Myth | EriC^^, I've returned. My 3TB NTFS HDD is mounted (it auto-mounts with with the DISKS application), but has a shaded Create Folder and Paste option, et al | 22:53 |
| Myth | This HDD has no system on it. Just media | 22:54 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: maybe it has some kind of hardware read only protection? | 22:54 |
| EriC^^ | some switch? | 22:55 |
| tomreyn | i didnt follow, but did you ntfsfix, yet? | 22:55 |
| Myth | EriC^^, That would be a new one to me. Been using this one without issue for nearly a year. Sandwiched between two SSDs, each with their own OS on them | 22:55 |
| Myth | They both access the HDD for music, documents, videos, images, and so on | 22:56 |
| EriC^^ | oh ok, thought it was a hand held ext hdd type | 22:56 |
| EriC^^ | try tomreyn 's suggestion of ntfsfix maybe the fs needs some fixing | 22:56 |
| Myth | EriC^^, I should have specified. Sorry about that | 22:57 |
| EriC^^ | tomreyn: to sum it up, the disk suddenly mounted read-only, nothing in dmesg, upon remounting rw, cd /mountpoint works, however oddly touch "something" says file not found | 22:57 |
| EriC^^ | tomreyn: he basically can't write anything to it, but touch's output is intriguing though | 22:57 |
| tomreyn | file not found on touch sounds like a path typo | 22:58 |
| EriC^^ | yup which is why i had him cd /mountpoint | 22:58 |
| EriC^^ | then touch something after he confirmed he was within the dir, same output file not found | 22:58 |
| EriC^^ | *shrug* | 22:59 |
| qwebirc95665 | hi, i try connect to an remote server via thightvnc. i installed on my server thightvncserver, tried sudo DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session, export DISPLAY=:1, sudo startx, gnome-session, etc. I am able to open apps like gnome-terminal, but not a fully gnome-session. i found the following files on the server:.xsession-errors https://pastebin.com/qqLb3c9u and the config file for tightvncserver https://pastebin.com/q8w1fnik | 22:59 |
| tomreyn | hmm yes thats weird, EriC^^. but it makes me want to ntfsfix even more | 23:00 |
| Myth | EriC^^, tomreyn Looking around in disks, seeing some interesting stuff. I'll post a screen | 23:00 |
| Myth | EriC^^, tomreyn Here is DISKS with my sdb partition highlighted (that is my Ubuntu SSD): https://imgur.com/a/UvdjpyF | 23:03 |
| Myth | Here is my sdc media HDD where I store media files only: https://imgur.com/a/6G2eR8h | 23:03 |
| tomreyn | Myth: this isyour efi system partition, what about it? | 23:04 |
| Myth | tomreyn, I just noticed a bad sector was mentioned. Never noticed it before. Probably unrelated, but I am inexperienced | 23:05 |
| Myth | The second screen shows how the automount is setup in DISKS | 23:05 |
| Myth | For the nonOS drive | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | i think this is 1 bad sector which then got relocated, but you should check this sometime using smartctl. but it's a different topic, i think, this does also not seem to be the storage which contains the ntfs file system you want to write to. | 23:06 |
| tomreyn | "second screen"? | 23:07 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Okay. Will do. The 3TB HDD is the NTFS drive in question, correct | 23:07 |
| Myth | tomreyn, The second image I linked | 23:07 |
| tomreyn | oh i missed this link | 23:08 |
| Myth | https://imgur.com/a/6G2eR8h | 23:08 |
| Myth | No worries. It may be arbitrary | 23:08 |
| EriC^^ | tomreyn: ntfsfix / smartctl time? | 23:09 |
| tomreyn | Myth: did you do the ntfsfix, yet? | 23:09 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Negative | 23:09 |
| tomreyn | Myth: do it now ;) | 23:09 |
| Myth | Ok | 23:09 |
| EriC^^ | ( sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1 ) | 23:10 |
| tomreyn | Myth: first unmount the file system | 23:10 |
| EriC^^ | ^ | 23:10 |
| tomreyn | Myth: sudo umount /mnt/2865* | 23:10 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Ah. I see | 23:11 |
| Krennic | hmm | 23:11 |
| tomreyn | Myth: then sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1 (thanks EriC^^) | 23:11 |
| Myth | https://susepaste.org/view//8495077 | 23:12 |
| Myth | tomreyn, ^ | 23:13 |
| EriC^^ | looks good! | 23:13 |
| EriC^^ | !cookie | tomreyn | 23:14 |
| ubottu | tomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 23:14 |
| Myth | EriC^^, I thought so too. I'm trying to comprehend the failure | 23:14 |
| tomreyn | Myth: "FAILED" doesn't sound too good, i'm not sure what it means in this context. | 23:15 |
| Myth | Says my file system was "unclean". Some Scarelet Letter stuff right there | 23:15 |
| tomreyn | the dirty bit had been set on the file system | 23:15 |
| Myth | Should we try the touch command after cd to the mnt point? | 23:15 |
| tomreyn | do you have fast shutdown disabled in any windows installation you use this drive with? | 23:15 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Not to my knowledge. No hibernation, or smartboot either | 23:16 |
| tomreyn | Myth: you need to have this option disabled, though, it's a non-default setting on windows 10 and i think 8, too, maybe 7 | 23:17 |
| Myth | I have 10 on the other drive. I'll comb through it carefully | 23:17 |
| EriC^^ | maybe a sudden poweroff caused it? | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | actually it's called "fast startup" | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | https://superuser.com/questions/1152001/shutdown-windows-10-truly-for-a-dual-booting-system | 23:17 |
| EriC^^ | it sounds like it had some metadata it wanted to write, but never got the chance or something | 23:17 |
| EriC^^ | oh nevermind, i get what you mean tomreyn | 23:18 |
| Myth | EriC^^, I updated the machine last night via Ubuntu and then Windows 10, then I shut it down for the night | 23:18 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Yes, I'll check the BIOS too. Should be OFF | 23:18 |
| Myth | Bookmarking the link you provided too | 23:19 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: if you shut it down then it would have done the fast-startup stuff, rebooting bypasses that | 23:19 |
| Myth | EriC^^, I'll check Windows 10 advanced power options as well as the BIOS/UEFI | 23:19 |
| EriC^^ | it's not in the bios, it should be somewhere in the settings in windows | 23:19 |
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| tomreyn | the link i posted has screen shots of how to disable it in windows, should be doable | 23:20 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Oh, I thought it had to be enabled in the BIOS as well | 23:20 |
| EriC^^ | or maybe in the bios too, i dont know, but im sure there's a setting in windows for it, just very obscurely placed behind some 'advanced options line' iirc | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | yes you also want it disable din bios. | 23:20 |
| EriC^^ | i think usually the fast start up in the bios is more about what the BIOS checks and stuff before fully booting the OS stuff like that | 23:21 |
| tomreyn | yes, it's unrelated to this fast sartup option in windows. | 23:21 |
| Myth | After reviewing the link you provided, it does seem pretty obscurly placed in the gui | 23:22 |
| Myth | May be the issue then. I never had this issue in Windows 7 dual booting with Ubuntu or Mint | 23:22 |
| tomreyn | since there can never be another Os other than windows, that's fine, right? | 23:22 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Yes, I think so. I keep it quarantined like a virus on its own drive ;p | 23:23 |
| tomreyn | i need some sleep, got sick, hope you can work it out, good luck! | 23:23 |
| Myth | tomreyn, Get well soon! Thanks | 23:23 |
| Myth | EriC^^, Thanks! | 23:23 |
| EriC^^ | Myth: no problem | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | ty | 23:24 |
| Myth | I'm going to go spanke Windows like a red-headed step child | 23:24 |
| Myth | o/ | 23:24 |
| jackbaker | Any one able to help out with configuring a USB HID gadget driver? I'm stuck at the "Configuration" section because i don't understand exactly what i need to put where. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt | 23:30 |
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| plongshot | Is there an official ubuntu doc to install apache2 on an 18.04 server over ssh? | 23:36 |
| plongshot | The article I | 23:36 |
| yeats | plongshot: you may have gotten cut off - last seen "The article I" | 23:38 |
| NMSK_Levsha | hi, if i`m using 2 terminals with root, how its history tracking? | 23:38 |
| plongshot | The article I've found includes a step where and apache firewall profile is applied with ufw and you must selct between 3 options. I'm not sure the implications of each choice. Will all of them work out of the box without further configureation or does connecting via port 440 imply I have to set up apache to serve my site as https or it wont work? | 23:38 |
| plongshot | sorry typo :s | 23:39 |
| plongshot | I want to choose "Apache Secure" profile and only open port 440 but like I was saying I don't know what that imlies for serving the site later | 23:40 |
| yeats | plongshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html is about as official as it probably gets as far as your original question goes | 23:40 |
| yeats | plongshot: are you referring to https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-apache-web-server-on-ubuntu-16-04 ? | 23:42 |
| yeats | in that case it would be port 443 (standard HTTPS port) not 440 | 23:42 |
| usr13 | plongshot: It's best to just not have any services running or even installed, if you don't intend to use them. | 23:42 |
| plongshot | yeats: I'm at https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-apache-web-server-on-ubuntu-18-04 | 23:43 |
| yeats | ah - probably mostly the same | 23:43 |
| yeats | plongshot: what you would choose for the ufw profile there would depend on the nature of what you'd be serving with apache | 23:44 |
| yeats | but HTTPS only is probably a good idea generally | 23:44 |
| plongshot | Step 2. And I found a way to rephrase the question makes more senes... " f I only connect through port 440 and keep 80 closed - does that imply I have to set my site up to use https and that http will not work? " | 23:44 |
| yeats | plongshot: port 443, yes? | 23:45 |
| plongshot | yeats: It is being pushed as a standard | 23:45 |
| plongshot | 443? or 440 I don't recall | 23:45 |
| plongshot | whatever it says | 23:45 |
| yeats | plongshot: 443 is standard HTTPS - not sure if 440 has a standard use | 23:46 |
| plongshot | my mistake / typo | 23:46 |
| yeats | plongshot: I've not used ufw in this exact situation, but yes, if you only allow 443 through the firewall, it will block HTTP altogether (if I understand what it's saying) | 23:47 |
| yeats | plongshot: Apache Full would probably be a more common usage | 23:47 |
| plongshot | I think I see what's up. If I enable only 443 and keep 80 closed I will effectively be constraining the connection for only https service but no http. So then I have to learn what it takes to serve a https site as opposed to just a http site. | 23:47 |
| plongshot | I see | 23:48 |
| yeats | plongshot: you can use apache rewrite rules to force HTTPS if someone lands on port 80 | 23:48 |
| yeats | lots of examples on the web | 23:48 |
| plongshot | yes | 23:48 |
| plongshot | Just that I know I've got my work cut out for me | 23:49 |
| yeats | but if you *block* port 80, they'd likely get a connection refused in the browser, which would be confusing to non-technical end users | 23:49 |
| yeats | plongshot: the only way to learn :-) | 23:49 |
| plongshot | yeats: Do you know if it's possible to connect for the sake of a test using iip:port syntax in the browser? Do a test that apaceh installs correctly even if there is no site yet? | 23:50 |
| plongshot | yes | 23:50 |
| yeats | sure, you can do that | 23:50 |
| plongshot | would it look something like? https://my-ip-address-at-server:443 ? | 23:51 |
| plongshot | is that right? | 23:51 |
| plongshot | And then I shoud see the apache2 welcome screen by default right? | 23:51 |
| yeats | plongshot: in theory, yes :-) | 23:52 |
| plongshot | right on | 23:52 |
| plongshot | thx man | 23:52 |
| yeats | happy to assist | 23:52 |
| AlexPortable | tomreyn: i got it to work, installed it again and now it magically stays | 23:54 |
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