[14:59] <slashd> o/
[15:02] <sil2100> o/
[15:02] <slashd> from what I can see no applicant today.
[15:03] <sil2100> Yeah, we just have the 2 carried-over action items to touch-base on
[15:04] <slashd> yeah do we start a meeting anyway ?
[15:04] <slashd> My action for APAC is waiting on the original APAC requester
[15:04] <sil2100> hm, we usually wait for quorum when starting the meeting, but that's only relevant for when voting is required
[15:05] <sil2100> tsimonq2 doesn't seem to be around for his action item as well
[15:05] <sil2100> So I guess we'll be carrying them over
[15:05] <sil2100> All the other action items are done, so yay
[15:05] <tsimonq2> I'm around, but alas, with no completed action item :(
[15:06] <slashd> ok, I guess we are done then ? ;)
[15:06] <sil2100> tsimonq2: no worries! Hope you'll find some time for that - remember, it's enough if you just have some base we can all chip in on
[15:06] <sil2100> I'd say we're done, but let's stick around here in case anyone comes with some DMB-related request
[15:07] <sil2100> I like treating DMB meetings as 'time when we're available for the community'
[15:07] <sil2100> (I mean, we're available always, but here we're specifically for that ;p)
[15:07] <slashd> sil2100, make sense
[15:16] <ddstreet> sil2100 slashd tsimonq2 or any other dmb member, my application is sched for next mtg; if you have any requests for info for me to gather before the mtg, please let me know at your convenience (or now, if you have something now)
[15:18] <slashd> ddstreet, I won't be able to attend next meeting on May 20th, on my side I worked enough with you to have my opinion about your work. I'll make sure the dmb get my vote pre-next mtg.
[15:18] <slashd> so my absence won't be a blocker for you
[15:23] <ddstreet> slashd thnx
[15:24] <slashd> Here's my recommendation :
[15:24] <slashd> - set yourself as patch pilot for 1 or 2 days
[15:24] <slashd> it's low traffic really low
[15:24] <slashd> - http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/
[15:24] <slashd> fix something FTBFS
[15:24] <slashd> again it's up to you, but I think it might help
[15:24] <slashd> more 'upload' won't satisfy them I'm afraid
[15:25] <slashd> there must be something in the list that is not super time consuming if you want to have a look
[15:26] <teward> just as a heads up SOMETIME before the end of the month (next week or two) I intend to file my application for Core Dev.  If you need any requests for info you need from me, let me know now or after I post the item to the agenda. (just wanted to give a heads up about it)
[15:26] <cyphermox> aaaa. sorry, I thought I was on, but my connection was dead
[15:27] <teward> (work schedule is chaotic evil with interrupting my ability to get the application filed :P)
[15:28] <slashd> ddstreet, try to expand your work outside more 'upload' only if possible, show that you can also handle other coredev task basically.
[15:28] <sil2100> teward: ok o/
[15:35] <slashd> sil2100, cyphermox, tsimonq2 : did we establish a list of thing we would like ddstreet to do before he re-apply for coredev (beside more upload) I know tsimonq2 is working on a document but meanwhile can we help ddstreet to reach its objective ?
[15:38] <tsimonq2> slashd: set yourself as patch pilot for 1 or 2 days> That seems to me to be a bit of a catch 22.
[15:39] <tsimonq2> Of course, recommendations can be made about what to do, and triage can be done, but a lot of it is, well, sponsoring.
[15:39] <cyphermox> not that I know. the story for applications is pretty much "do work", where that's ftbfs fixes, etc.
[15:39] <tsimonq2> Since we're at that point in the cycle, I would also recommend merges from Debian.
[15:39] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: +1
[15:40] <slashd> tsimonq2, ddstreet did a few merge already from what I can remember
[15:40] <tsimonq2> As was said before, we're not looking for a set amount of uploads. We're looking to see that you have demonstrated skill in a wide variety of tasks.
[15:40] <tsimonq2> slashd: Ah, got it.
[15:40] <slashd> tsimonq2, right this is why i put focus on not only more uploads, ddstreet already showed his skill in the upload area imho
[15:41] <slashd> tsimonq2, remember ddstreet is already a sponsor in stable release, so he can help as patch pilot for stable release at least.
[15:42] <ddstreet> is that something that would carry any weight at all in my coredev application?  sponsoring to sru releases?
[15:42] <ddstreet> i was under the impression it would not
[15:42] <tsimonq2> slashd: Ohh, got it.
[15:42] <slashd> tsimonq2, ack
[15:42] <tsimonq2> ddstreet: Yes and no.
[15:43] <ddstreet> well that's not ambiguous xD
[15:43] <tsimonq2> You should have devel uploads to supplement your SRUs, but I would say that if you can demonstrate your skill that way, that's fine.
[15:43] <tsimonq2> Sorry ;)
[15:48] <slashd> tsimonq2, I think he did a decent amount of devel upload in disco, and will continue in eoan : https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Dan+Streetman&sponsoree_search=name I don't think devel upload is an issue for ddstreet
[15:48] <slashd> we can have a wider discussion next mtg, but my goal is more that provide reasonnable goal for him to succeed
[15:49] <slashd> s/that/to ^
[15:49] <tsimonq2> ok
[15:52] <slashd> this is why I have suggested patch pilot, and FTBFS situation, (he already did merge (for vlan) iirc and decent amount of devel uploads imho).
[16:03] <slashd> ddstreet, so bottom line ddstreet continue to do what you are doing, and if you can show us other things such as FTBFS it won't hurt your next application I guess, that's what I can think of and seem to come out from the discussion so far, as you already did other proposal (merge, devel uploads, ...) hope it helps a little bit to prepare you for next mtg
[16:03] <ddstreet> slashd thnx