[00:02] <RoadRunner> tomek171: your suggestion/commands produced much the same result; however, apart from spring and riot this does not explain why Software Updater reports a connectivity problem
[00:03] <OerHeks> one cannot use both, softwarecenter and terminal to apt
[00:07] <JPSman> What is the ETA for a repository update for Mozilla Firefox 66.0.4?
[00:08] <OerHeks> Firefox 66.0.3 seems to accept plugins and such again
[00:08] <OerHeks> it has a hidden update mechanism
[00:08] <jcotton> Studies
[00:08] <jcotton> see about:studies
[00:08] <sere_> Anyone know why im getting leafpad : Cannot open display with pkexec leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list command
[00:09] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1827717
[00:09] <JPSman> yeah screw studies, I just switch xpinstall.signatures.required to false
[00:10] <JPSman> but I was waiting for a full update before switching it back
[00:10] <OerHeks> i did nothing, just waited
[00:10] <JPSman> greanted, 66.0.4 was released 3 hours ago, I can imagine it will be a while, I am just curious what the turn around time is for Ubuntu to have a package update?
[00:17] <tomreyn> JPSman: i don't think this is decided, yet, we could just speculate. There is bug 1827727 which you can subscribe to or keep visiting to get updates on how Ubuntu will handle it.
[00:18] <tomreyn> chances are that there will be an update on this bug report on monday, discussing how Ubuntu will go about it.
[00:18] <tomreyn> but this, too, is just a guess
[00:21] <OerHeks> .. but it works here, tomreyn
[00:23] <OerHeks> https://imgur.com/a/9IIOhN9
[00:23] <OerHeks> all enabled
[00:23] <JPSman> tomreyn, Thank You!!
[00:27] <tomreyn> OerHeks: so you used none of the workarounds actively, and about:studies does not list that you received the update this way?
[00:28] <oopuguin> All: Whats media player do you favorite? Im smlplayer!
[00:29] <OerHeks> i did nothing indeed, this is my studies https://imgur.com/a/vsO1pVs
[00:30] <OerHeks> i see that H bug-1548973
[00:33] <tomreyn> OerHeks: so you got the update through the 'studies' channel. but apparently that's not a fully reliable workaround which works for everyone. and not everyone may want to enable studies. so a complete fix is needed, which is why mozilla released an update (and ubuntu will likely need to do the same).
[00:34] <michael__> help
[00:34] <tomreyn> with?
[00:34] <fixarN> michael__ are you ok
[00:34] <fixarN> ?
[00:35] <michael__> Thanks for asking.  I'm fine, just a newbie at IRC commands.  left of slash.
[00:37] <blckhll> ifstatus v2 released. no ubuntu packages so far: http://ifstatus.sourceforge.net/download.html
[00:37] <Bashing-om> !info ifstatus disco
[00:40] <OerHeks> old stuff, it uses eth0 and so on, systemd and systemctrl are current
[00:42] <oopuguin> my system monitor is conky, but it must code myself.
[00:42] <RoadRunner> OerHeks: regarding apt / apt-get not working concurently with Software Updater: I was using them one at a time. Just now for some reason apt-get worked and updated the packages. But Software Updater is still showing a problem with internet connection...
[00:43] <blckhll> ifstatus is not a system monitor, just a simple network interface monitor
[00:44] <blckhll> conky is great
[00:45] <OerHeks> longest tread on ubuntuforums
[00:45] <OerHeks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2346
[00:46] <oopuguin> thank u > blnkhll
[00:48] <blckhll> oopuguin: welcome - let me know what are your thoughts
[00:51] <RoadRunner> is Software Updater just a front end for apt?
[01:16] <freeguestee> anybody know if there's going to be a firefox update available after the disabled addons issue
[01:18] <DalekSec> freeguestee: There appears to already be a hotfix from Mozilla, and I'm sure there will be a firefox update from Ubuntu Soon™
[01:18] <DalekSec> https://storage.googleapis.com/moz-fx-normandy-prod-addons/extensions/hotfix-update-xpi-intermediate%40mozilla.com-1.0.2-signed.xpi is what people are linking, whether they should or not.
[01:21] <freeguestee> ty DalekSec. The 'studies' hotfix hasn't happened on my machine yet, so I'm afraid I might have to wait for that update from ubuntu
[01:21] <Chaekyung> That's the right "hotfix" and it works.
[01:27] <freeguestee> thanks, I took the plunge and installed it. Addons back
[01:32] <tomreyn> freeguestee: There is also bug 1827727 which you can subscribe to or keep visiting to get updates on how Ubuntu will handle it.
[01:32] <jawa78> this may seem like a dumb question but I edited /etc/network/interfaces with a secondary subinterface eth0:0 and if I do ifup eth0:0 then it works but if I reboot i have to type the command again and yes it is set to auto
[01:33] <tomreyn> jawa78: which ubuntu version and type (desktop / server) is this?
[01:35] <jawa78> tomreyn: server 18
[01:35] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | jawa78
[01:36] <tomreyn> jawa78: are you aware of the ifupdown deprecation in favor or network-manager (desktop) and systemd-networkd / netplan (server)?
[01:36] <jawa78> I think I found the issue in config file ...  we will
[01:37] <jawa78> tomreyn: I think i found it I reboot this vm and see if we have any luck... why cant everything be as easy as slackware...
[01:38] <juanonymous> Will you suggest google authenticator for ssh 2fa?
[01:38] <juanonymous> Would*
[01:41] <jawa78> juanonymous: I used it and then used it and then paired it with an yubikey
[01:43] <juanonymous> 👌
[01:57] <qwebirc51635> Hi! Is someone able to help me install snex9x I keep getting errors. I am trynig to install it on my ubuntu tablet that I just set up today
[02:01] <tomreyn> qwebirc51635: if what you installed on your tablet is ubports(.com), then please    /join #ubports
[02:02] <Croran> I am having some trouble with using the Alt key for keyboard shortcuts in Bionic.
[02:02] <Croran> running sudo showkey -k in a termal and then pressing Alt+PrtSc shows a press and release for keycode 56 (Alt) before another press for Alt and then press and release for PrtSc and then release for Alt.
[02:02] <qwebirc51635> I dont think its ubports
[02:02] <Croran> I didn't press Alt twice, so there should only be one release. I hope that gives someone a clue to help me.
[02:02] <Croran> I do have multiple keyboard 'languages' installed - English (US), and English (US, Intl, with dead keys), but I have English (US) currently selected.
[02:02] <tomreyn> qwebirc51635: which ubuntu version did you install, how?
[02:04] <qwebirc51635> I used a USB stick that had 18.02... something or other on it and booted and installed from there
[02:06] <tomreyn> qwebirc51635: this sounds like a regular ubuntu installation, yes.
[02:06] <Croran> qwebirc51635: lsb-release -a
[02:06] <tomreyn> underscore
[02:07] <Croran> qwebirc51635: lsb_release -a
[02:07] <tomreyn> qwebirc51635: snes9x is not available in ubuntu, and i have no experience with it, so can't help you install it.
[02:11] <pressure679> Fedora 24 or 26 worked well with the Intel Pstates driver in regards to either throttling or at least lowering the temperature of the CPU to ~38 degrees, a recent update of the Linux kernel 4.19 has an improvement in regards to this, but it is not available for Ubuntu 18.04, is it in 18.10 or 19.04? Is it better maybe? Or are there other tools than say PowerTop, TLP, Laptop-Mode, TuneD, to make Linux
[02:11] <pressure679> more like a MicroKernel than MonoLithic?
[02:13] <pressure679> A WebSite wrote an improvement to lowering the amount of Pstates, maybe this is also obtainable by lowering the min/max frequency of the CPU?
[02:15] <tomreyn> pressure679: since you are referring to a specific issue and seem to know a lot of details about it already, i'd suggest you look up the corresponding bug report in ubuntu and any workarounds discussed there.
[02:16] <tomreyn> if you already know the corresponding bug report, you should point to it while asking any pursuing questions
[02:16] <pressure679> It is quite strange when the Intel Pstates driver is paired with the ACPI. Is the stock CPU driver by Linux/Ubuntu better integrated by the with the kernel and machine?
[02:17] <tomreyn> since 18.04 is an LTS release, itis entirely possible that any fixed or workarounds applied to newer kernel.org versions were backported to ubuntu's kernel.
[02:18] <Croran> evtest gives me the same result. Alt key unexpectedly marked as released (value 0) as soon as I hit PrtSc.
[02:21] <pressure679> Hmm, anyhow, the CPU allegedly should last about 20 years anyway, more than the other parts. (iGPU seems smart, but the temperature is higher than a dedicated GPU).
[02:21] <pressure679> - than with a dedicated GPU:
[02:33] <Croran> ok i'm going to try shutting down xorg and see what the behavior is with tty only
[02:33] <Croran> be back in a moment
[02:37] <pressure679> LCD's are strange, but the level of detail have become marginally higher of them the since the 1940's. - Smaller crystals.
[02:44] <tomreyn> !chat | pressure679, Croran
[02:46] <Croran> tomreyn: Are you trying to point something out to me? I am on Ubuntu and I came here to #ubuntu for help with Ubuntu. I am registered with NickServ.
[02:47] <pressure679> The Ubuntu's have made subtribes of OS'.
[02:47] <pressure679> *Ubuntus
[02:48] <tomreyn> Croran: okay, i wasn't clear whether you're still adding to your earlier request for support or just reposting what you're doing.
[02:49] <tomreyn> Croran: looks like i got it wrong, sorry.
[02:49] <Croran> tomreyn: ok thanks
[02:49] <ericP> i tried to use usb-creator-gtk to create a bootable USB from an ISO in https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/buster_di_rc1-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
[02:50] <ericP> unfortunately, usb-creator-gtk called isoinfo which barfed 'cause it couldn't find the right signature for a Joliet filesystem (i guess)
[02:51] <pressure679> Hi from Ubuntu ericP.
[02:51] <ericP> (it iso mounts -o loop with no problem)
[02:51] <jcotton> >iso-hybrid
[02:51] <jcotton> you might be able to "flash" it with dd
[02:52] <ericP> the iso image includes the (grub) boot sector?
[02:52] <tomreyn> ericP: so you're using usb-creator-gtk on which ubuntu version?
[02:52] <jcotton> my understanding is hybrid ISOs can be written that way
[02:52] <ro> they can
[02:53] <ericP> lsb_release says ubuntu 18.10
[02:53] <ericP> ok, gonna dd it. tx
[02:53] <tomreyn> ericP: cat should also work
[02:53] <jcotton> need a root shell tho
[02:53] <sappheiros> does lubuntu have a night view where i can have a dark foreground and light text?
[02:54] <pressure679> GNU should, but the POSIX and PCRE Regex's differ between Awk, Vi, and Emacs.
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> !info redshift | sappheiros
[02:54] <jcotton> pressure679: he wants a dark theme
[02:55] <jcotton> i think
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: there's also firefox dark theme built-in in settings
[02:55] <ericP> tomreyn, of=/dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 (i believe sdb1 is marked with a "boot" flag)
[02:55] <sappheiros> well, redshift does help ... well, i'm using falkon (faster than firefox) and realized i was taxing my monitor for no reason (and to my own detriment) with all this white background
[02:56] <jcotton> eh? taxing your monitor?
[02:56] <jcotton> you have OLED?
[02:57] <sappheiros> how do i know whether i need redshift or gtk-redshift?
[02:57] <sappheiros> (lubuntu 18.10)
[02:57] <jcotton> the latter is a gui frontend to the former
[02:57] <jcotton> iirc
[02:57] <sappheiros> dell latitude d620
[02:57] <sappheiros> old laptop
[02:57] <sappheiros> want to save energy too though
[02:57] <guiverc2> sappheiros, redshift has the real functionality; redhisft-gtk provides a gui addon (ie. can be turned off, disabled awhile etc) for panel - yep it works on my lubuntu 19.10
[02:58] <tomreyn> ericP: the raw device /dev/sdb
[02:58] <pressure679> Eh, old laptops are cool though.
[02:58] <jcotton> unless you turn down the brightness it won''t actually save energy sappheiros
[02:58] <jcotton> that's not how LCD works
[02:58] <jcotton> OLED yes
[02:58] <sappheiros> erm ...
[02:58] <sappheiros> how do i check my monitor specs?
[02:58] <tatertotz> lol
[02:58] <sappheiros> but it's like a 11 y old dell
[02:58] <guiverc2> sappheiros, redshift-gtk is the panel gui
[02:58] <sappheiros> so i guess it's not OLED?
[02:58] <jcotton> probably not
[02:59] <sappheiros> LCD doesn't save energy being dimmer??
[02:59] <jcotton> if you dim the whole screen
[02:59] <pressure679> Of course this is about the Linux kernel version in Ubuntu, not Ubuntu exclusively (temperature zones).
[02:59] <tatertotz> if you REALLY want to save $ on electricity....turn it all OFF
[02:59] <jcotton> oh yeah that's LCD
[02:59] <jcotton> sappheiros: the backlight is the same brightness across the entire screen
[02:59] <jcotton> you get dimmer colors b/c the LCD crystals change shape to let more or less light through
[03:00] <jcotton> OLED on the other hand can dim or shut off individual pixels
[03:01] <sappheiros> oh ... maybe that's why it still seemed bright when black screen ... (not off)
[03:01] <jcotton> mhm
[03:01] <sappheiros> i mean, some light getting through
[03:01] <sappheiros> o_o
[03:02] <pressure679> Enlightened metals :)
[03:20] <sappheiros> g'night
[03:44] <pd09041999> how much time does it take for firefox update to be updated in official package?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> pd09041999: when updates are released, ubuntu will notify you
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | pd09041999
[03:46] <pd09041999> yeah, i know that just wanted to ask about estimated time
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> pd09041999: the developers cannot set a release time when working on something, its out when its out
[03:55] <plongshot> Can you use port syntax in /etc/hosts ?  (ie: 127.0.0.1:80) <-- for port 80 ?
[03:55] <plongshot> eg: 205.321.10.210:80  (made up example)
[04:07] <mia> Hey all
[04:07] <mia> how can I uninstall wine programs
[04:13] <oopuguin> mia: rm -rf ~/.wine
[04:14] <oopuguin> sorry,it was wrong.
[04:14] <oopuguin> Most easily, use q4wine=>uninstall
[04:21] <Croran> I figured out my alt+prtsc issue
[04:22] <Croran> If anyone cares. It was some kind of conflict with magic sysrq keys.
[04:22] <Croran> I ran echo "0" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq as root and now my alt+prtsc works correctly.
[04:22] <mia> thanks oopuguin
[05:03] <Myth> Hello. Latest update seems to have broken my Firefox browser on Ubuntu 18.04LTS. I am unable to regain function of my browser extensions. Uninstalling and reinstalling Firefox did not work. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Myth: this bug is comming from upstream, when the ubuntu developers receive the fix, the updates will come to your system
[05:06] <Myth> lotuspsychje, Ah, I see. Bummer. Thanks for the heads-up
[05:06] <snaked> Myth, it's a problem on Firefox side of things. Mozilla let a security certificate used to sign extensions lapse. So the browser no longer trusts any extensions.
[05:06] <snaked> They have a writeup on it here: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/05/04/update-regarding-add-ons-in-firefox/
[05:07] <Myth> snaked, Thanks. Looking at that now. What a pain :/
[05:07] <Myth> I'm sure it will be fixed in a few days
[05:09] <Myth> Hey, thanks to you guys, I can stop messing around trying to fix it. Probably saved me quite a lot of hassle! I appreciate that
[05:09] <snaked> Did you try the studies kludge?
[05:09] <snaked> That seems to be working for most people.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Myth snaked my firefox addons fixxed without doing anything here
[05:10] <snaked> I think you either have "studies" enabled or my information is out of date ;)
[05:10] <Myth> snaked, I'll have a look
[05:10] <Myth> lotuspsychje, Lucky you. Maybe snaked is right
[05:10] <nisstyre> I was able to fix the issue by installing nightly, then doing `firefox -ProfileManager` to switch to my main profile
[05:10] <nisstyre> of course that's not for everyone
[05:10] <nisstyre> I would personally rather not enable "studies"
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> snaked: i didnt change settings, so i assume its enabled by default?
[05:11] <Myth> Looks like I've had it enabled, so not that. Only thing checked in Preferences there was "Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla"
[05:12] <Myth> Excuse me, I meant I've had it DISABLED
[05:12] <Myth> No changes there
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Myth: its the line, under
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Myth: allow firefox to do studies
[05:12] <nisstyre> keep in mind that that will send your data to Mozilla
[05:12] <Myth> Oh, I see. Enable that for a possible workaround?
[05:13] <Myth> nisstyre, Right. Good point
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Myth: you can try on your own risk sure
[05:13] <Kon-> It's not necessry to enable studies. One simply needs to manually install the fix located here https://storage.googleapis.com/moz-fx-normandy-prod-addons/extensions/hotfix-update-xpi-intermediate%40mozilla.com-1.0.2-signed.xpi
[05:13] <nisstyre> you can do that or install nightly
[05:13] <Kon-> Believe it or not Mozilla developers hosted the file at that location. The URL is pulled directly from Mozilla's Normandy system, which deploys these things
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: wont that be in the next firefox update?
[05:13] <Kon-> Yes lotuspsychje
[05:14] <Kon-> This is for people who don't want to wait
[05:14] <Kon-> And don't want to opt-in to Studies
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: so best to wait, to avoid malicious links in here
[05:14] <Kon-> Again, this link was provided by Mozilla
[05:14] <Myth> Kon-, Thank goodness. My browser experience is quite rubbish without my preferred add-on
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> yes i know Kon- but you know how it goes here in #ubuntu
[05:14] <nisstyre> Kon-: wouldn't you have to click through a warning to install that though? since the certificate that signs xpi files is broken?
[05:14] <snaked> "Rubbish" is an exceptionally diplomatic way to describe the web without blockers, Myth :D
[05:15] <Myth> snaked, idn't it though?
[05:15] <nisstyre> also weirdly my firefox is not broken on one machine
[05:15] <nisstyre> and I didn't do anything
[05:15] <nisstyre> I wonder if I disabled something a while ago and forgot
[05:15] <snaked> Different versions? Different configurations?
[05:16] <Kon-> On my machine I have been able to work around it by simply setting xpinstall.signatures.required to false
[05:16] <Myth> I rebooted the browser, Kon, but the fix isn't qorking. Any ideas where I missed the mark?
[05:16] <nisstyre> Kon-: keep in mind that you should not keep that disabled
[05:16] <Kon-> No, because I didn't try that update
[05:16] <Myth> Fair play
[05:16] <Kon-> nisstyre: Naturally, not good to keep off when installing addons
[05:16] <nisstyre> the best solution is to just wait or install nightly, imo
[05:16] <snaked> Kon-, that's what I did personally and it has worked. Apparently that preference isn't enabled on every version.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> nisstyre: indeed, wait for official updates
[05:17] <Myth> nisstyre, Not used Nightly
[05:17] <nisstyre> it's easy
[05:17] <snaked> I'll switch it back and simply not allow extensions to update until the crisis is resolved.
[05:17] <Myth> Unfamiliar to me, and like my cat, I too fear change
[05:18] <Kon-> You can run the tarballs of 66.0.4 right now as well, making this all a bit moot. Just copy over your profile folder
[05:18] <Kon-> Mozilla has already deployed the official fix. Just waiting on distro packagers
[05:18] <nisstyre> firefox -ProfileManager usually works for that
[05:18] <Myth> Looks like I'll have to. The hotfix isn't happening here
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Myth: wich FF version are you on?
[05:19] <Myth> lotuspsychje, 66.0.3 (64-bit)
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Myth: same, and addons fixxed here with that studies enabled by default
[05:20] <Myth> lotuspsychje, It may come to that...
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> maybe its also country/repo related
[05:21] <Myth> My inner conspiracy theorist is going nuts
[05:21] <Kon-> If you already enabled Studies, you still have to wait for your status to update. That's why some users recommended changing the update interval to 1 second (really not recommended unless you change it back immediately)
[05:21] <snaked> Hah, I missed that detail.
[05:21] <Myth> ugh...
[05:22] <Myth> Less than elegant
[05:22] <Myth> Barbary!
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> i never touched settings here, so i presume bionic has that enabled by default, can anyone confirm?
[05:22] <Myth> lotuspsychje, I think that is correct
[05:23] <Myth> Every new install and I have to check that over
[05:25] <Myth> I think I'll give it until Tuesday. If it isn't fixed by then, I'm going to tear my browser apart like an angry kid with legos
[05:25] <krytarik> lotuspsychje: tomreyn filed LP bug 1827717 on that earlier - no mention of an Ubuntu version though - but I'd think all currently supported ones are affected.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> ah tnx krytarik
[05:40] <noobelux> hey guys, any idea how long will take until firefox update comes?? the current version disabled all adddons
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> noobelux: the firefox bug was upstream, when the developers receive the fix your system will get the updates as soon as possible
[07:17] <ducasse> noobelux: the new firefox version with the fix was released last night, so it should come as an update as soon as it is properly packaged and tested
[08:08] <help>  /msg nickserv ghost
[08:08] <Guest24190>  /msg nickserv ghost dabrain34
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[08:14] <unknown> ?
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[08:15] <gift> blindekuh
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[08:15] <gift> lass topfschlagen spielen
[08:15] <jio> okeeeee hab dich
[08:16] <ducasse> !support
[08:16] <gift> po pommes
[08:16] <jio> plumssack ist besser
[08:16] <jio> bombe
[08:16] <gift> zurück an herd
[08:17] <jio> kaffeemaschine
[08:17] <sophiak_> hey
[08:17] <jio> hi
[08:17] <sophiak_> naaaa
[08:17] <gift> leude
[08:17] <jio> ping der pinguin ist hier
[08:17] <sophiak_> jau
[08:17] <gift> ich hab hunger
[08:18] <jio> dann eben zocki das zebra
[08:18] <ducasse> jio: gift: take this chatter elsewhere, please
[08:18] <hey> der plumssack geht rum
[08:18] <hey> wer sich umdreht oder lacht
[08:18] <hey> hat den plumssack vollgemacht
[08:18] <gift> why
[08:18] <jio> geh du woanders hin
[08:19] <mayyy> hii
[08:19] <unknown> ich
[08:19] <gift> hi may
[08:19] <unknown> hab
[08:19] <unknown> kein
[08:19] <unknown> bock
[08:19] <mayyy> alisha
[08:19] <jio> auf
[08:20] <unknown> lass mal nh anderen Chat nehmen
[08:20] <diegeilesau> nein
[08:20] <gift> ja okay
[08:20] <mayyy> da sind wir nicht reingekommen letzes mal
[08:20] <diegeilesau> welchen dennn
[08:21] <unknown> ich probiere mal
[08:21] <jio> feilschirmsprung
[08:22] <diegeilesau> FEFNET der server geht
[08:22] <diegeilesau> von alicia
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[08:22] <jio> entensuppe mit milchreis
[08:22] <mayyy> baah
[08:22] <diegeilesau> nö
[08:22] <diegeilesau> gleich kommen lucas und jonas
[08:22] <gift> was macht ihr
[08:22] <unknown> jaj
[08:23] <jio> und dann das fbi
[08:23] <diegeilesau> wow lennox
[08:23] <Furai> what
[08:31] <roboirc> hi all where do I report a bug in ubuntu forums?
[08:34] <jeremy31> roboirc: Problems with ubuntuforums.org can be reported in the Forum Feedback and Help subforum there
[08:34] <tomreyn> roboirc: is there a bug in the ubuntu forums and you want to report that, or are you asking where in the forums you should report an ubuntu bug?
[08:34] <roboirc> ok thanks jeremy31 i found a bug in ubuntu where the app drawer doesn't show up fully
[08:34] <roboirc> I want to know wherein the forums I should report an ubuntu bug?
[08:34] <tomreyn> not on the forums, use     ubuntu-bug
[08:35] <tomreyn> !bug
[08:36] <roboirc> ok ubottu
[08:41] <roboirc> done thanks!
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: could you add a screenshot to your bug too please?
[08:45] <roboirc> ok
[08:49] <roboirc> done
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: can you check if this is whats happening: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1826688
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: i had the same recently and this is the original duplicate ^
[08:54] <roboirc> no
[08:56] <tatertotz> on
[08:56] <unknown__> hi
[08:58] <qwebirc91318> Hi all. Linux newbie here. Quick question: Using a VM in Windows, is it possible to open the same Ubuntu installation as alread installed, making permanent changes to a users account?
[08:58] <qwebirc91318> or is it alwas a new instance?
[09:01] <tomreyn> roboirc: i suggest you also add the output of this command to your report:  grep -Eh '"(uuid|url|version)"' ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/*/metadata.json
[09:01] <tomreyn> roboirc: this will list installed gnome extensions
[09:01] <tomreyn> *gnome-shell-extensions
[09:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc91318: i don't think i understand your question, maybe just ask the same question differently again, or provide more context.
[09:03] <roboirc> dpone
[09:03] <roboirc> done
[09:04] <KlintFeith> anyone know when Firefox 66.0.4 update will come (extensions disable fix)?
[09:05] <tomreyn> KlintFeith: we don't, but there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1827727 which you can subscribe to
[09:05] <qwebirc91318> tomreyn: Hi, thanks for getting back to me. I have Ubuntu installed as a dual boot. Is it possible to access that same installation ie. same user accounts, files etc.., from within Windows via a Virtual Machine?
[09:07] <tomreyn> qwebirc91318: if you're using a virtualization which can do so, yes, otherwise no.
[09:08] <KlintFeith> tomreyn: thx!
[09:09] <roboirc> has anybody tried to pair external bluetooth speakers to Ubuntu before? anybody tried that with jawbone jambox?
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> KlintFeith: keep your system up to date too, so the firefox update can come
[09:10] <qwebirc91318> tomreyn: do you know of a good resource to use to set this up? I wouldn't know how to define what I am looking for, hence the difficulty in phrasing my question to you
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: bluetooth, we often reccomend using blueman to easy pair devices
[09:13] <roboirc> lotuspsychje  ok
[09:13] <tomreyn> qwebirc91318: i know it's possible with virtualbox if you have alinux host, but probably also the other way around. they have documentation where this is explained in the advanced section (towards the end). however, i'm afraid that #ubuntu can neither support you in finding a good virtualization software for windows hosts, nor help you set up a VM on it.
[09:13] <tomreyn> qwebirc91318: maybe start by asking in ##windows.
[09:14] <qwebirc91318> tomreyn: Many thanks for the advice, much appreciated!
[09:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc91318: you're welcome
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> my name is jeff
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> a
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> f
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> a
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> g
[09:26] <WakandaBruders> fgdf
[09:26] <roboirc> ok.....
[09:47] <blogten> hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a bcache device, which is caching a partition of an mdadm array.  installation proceeds until the grub installer crashes.  others appear to have reported similar bugs in Launchpad but without comments.  how do I figure what's wrong?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> blogten: please next time before filing a new bug, come here and ask first
[09:48] <blogten> ah sorry about that :)
[09:49] <blogten> eh, I meant :(
[09:49] <blogten> so hi again, lotuspsychje
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> blogten: now you created, please also mention this togheter with your question
[09:52] <ducasse> blogten: which installer are you using?
[09:52] <blogten> I booted the live 18.04 LTS installer, then used the installer from the desktop
[09:53] <blogten> I *suspect* what's going on is that the bootloader wants an actual partition rather than a block device, do you know where I might find the install logs that could contain grub installer failure text?
[09:56] <ducasse> blogten: you can run the installer with 'sudo ubiquity -b', then install grub manually
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1827851
[10:00] <blogten> I'd like to figure out what went wrong first, and why --- and yes, that's the bug that just went up... fascinating that the partition log is *megabytes* in size...
[10:07] <blogten> ok, so after sifting through the megabytes of what looks like the installation log, I'm still unsure of what's wrong given the multitude of grub related entries.  but some of the log entries seem to complain that an entire device might have been selected for the boot loader rather than a partition...
[10:07] <blogten> sigh, this is going to take a while to fix
[10:13] <faekjarz> Hi! Do you have information when Firefox 66.0.4 (with mitigation for the broken add-on certificate) will be released?
[10:19] <blogten> ok, off goes the installation again
[10:20] <cfhowlett> !ping
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon cfhowlett
[10:21] <cfhowlett> evening lotuspsychje
[10:21] <Kon-> Hi, my DNS seems to have died horribly and journald is flooded with DNSSEC validation errors. This remains true even after I specified DNSSEC=no in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[10:21] <Kon-> Any ideas?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: could you pastebin that please, think ive seen bugs like that before
[10:22] <Kon-> I would but atm I can't access the paste site
[10:23] <Kon-> Can't ping, browser won't reach anything, etc
[10:26] <pa> hi
[10:26] <pa> is ffox 66.0.4 .debs available somewhere for the public?
[10:27] <pa> *are
[10:28] <tomreyn> pa: not, yet, it's being worked on.
[10:28] <Kon_> Okay, restarted the modem, then disabled and renabled my network in the OS, it seems to have fixed itself
[10:29] <tomreyn> pa: you can subscribe to bug #1827727
[10:29] <Kon_> Wait, I lied. Still flooded with DNSSEC errors even though my DNS is reachable
[10:29] <blogten> looks like some improvement, the grub2 package seems to be installing now (as opposed to failing immediately)
[10:31] <tatertotz> Kon_ that can happen when you go ghost busting errors or logs and you don't have clear symptom(s) of a actual problem or failure
[10:31] <blogten> ok so now it did not crash, but the installation failed anyway, because grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to install to "/ target/", whatever that means
[10:31] <blogten> and now it crashed anyway
[10:31] <pa> thanks
[10:32] <Kon_> tatertotz: I couldn't reach my DNS or alternate for 25 minutes so that's why I went looking for logs in the first place. It may have been an ISP hiccup
[10:33] <jeremy31> blogten, mount the install and EFI partitions, chroot and install grub
[10:34] <blogten> yeah, I'm trying to get the installer to go away, it won't close by itself and I'm considering kill -9 now
[10:37] <blogten> you mean, after chroot'ing into the mounted root partition for the install, something like apt install grub?
[10:37] <EriC^^> blogten: start the installer with ubiquity -b
[10:37] <EriC^^> it'll refrain from installing grub
[10:38] <EriC^^> then chroot and install it and see what's going on, i've seen grub crash with uefi on a user here when his nvram was set to readonly fwiw
[10:39] <EriC^^> in that case you'd need either a bios update from the manuf. or just use the default bootloader path for windows as ubuntu's grub (efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi)
[10:40] <EriC^^> and possibly edit os-prober's 20microsoft file to look for a different windows bootloader  such as bootmgfwreal.efi and rename it if you ever intend to install windows and dual boot
[10:41] <blogten> looking into the chroot thing... first, installed mdadm on the new install because it was missing...
[10:42] <blogten> bcache-tools was also missing, so installing that...
[10:45] <blogten> grub2 installed without complaint via apt
[10:45] <EriC^^> you dont want grub2
[10:45] <EriC^^> grub2 is grub-pc which is grub for legacy booting
[10:45] <blogten> why would the installer want to install that then?
[10:45] <EriC^^> i thought it mentioned grub-efi-*?
[10:46] <EriC^^> did you chroot or are you still in the live usb?
[10:46] <EriC^^> and did you mount the efi partition if you chrooted?
[10:46] <blogten> yes, and the text displayed by the installer about the time it failed said it was installing 'grub2' (literally, with the quotes and everything)
[10:47] <blogten> this is all chrooted now
[10:47] <EriC^^> blogten: type 'ls /sys/firmware/efi'
[10:47] <EriC^^> does the dir exist or no?
[10:47] <blogten> I see a bunch of files and directories there
[10:47] <EriC^^> blogten: ok, type 'mount /boot/efi'
[10:48] <blogten> it proceeded
[10:48] <EriC^^> blogten: type 'dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:48] <blogten> I see some files there
[10:48] <EriC^^> paste the link
[10:48] <blogten> and I also see those files are living in the EFI partition I set aside for the purpose
[10:50] <Marcangel> bonjour a tous
[10:50] <EriC^^> !fr | Marcangel
[10:50] <Marcangel> merci
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:51] <blogten> it gives the identifier 0iea
[10:52] <roboirc> does anybody know how to compile / build vgrep for ubuntu?
[10:52] <EriC^^> blogten: type apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2
[10:53] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[10:53] <EriC^^> blogten: type apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2 grub-efi-amd64+
[10:53] <EriC^^> note the "+" at the end there
[10:54] <blogten> yeah, with the first command it says it will install grub-efi-amd64...
[10:54] <Mr_Pan> strudel, we are waiting ... read PM please.
[10:55] <blogten> it says 4 to remove, 1 newly installed...
[10:55] <blogten> looks like it's installing grub-efi-amd64 now
[10:56] <blogten> some errors noted re: efibootmgr
[10:57] <roboirc> how do I install this: https://github.com/gnunn1/vgrep ?
[10:57] <blogten> fascinating, it says "efibootmgr: option requires an argument -- 'd'"
[10:58] <roboirc> nevermind figuring it out
[10:58] <roboirc> brb
[10:58] <blogten> further down, it says -d determines the disk for the bootloader, defaults to /dev/sda.  but that's not gonna work in this setup
[10:58] <blogten> later on, grub-install fails before efibootmgr fails to register the boot entry (presumably because -d was missing an argument)
[11:06] <blogten> grub-install finally runs efibootmgr -c -d, but does not provide a directory for -d, and then efibootmgr complains
[11:06] <blogten> this is looking at the output of grub-install -v --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[11:07] <roboirc> whats a good gui based grep tool for linux?
[11:08] <jeremy31> blogten: might be related to old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1765484
[11:08] <blogten> running efibootmgr -c -d /dev/right-block-device produces sensible output
[11:09] <roboirc> ok I found something useful: vizigrep in ubuntu
[11:09] <roboirc> does the job :)
[11:14] <adac> In Ubuntu software updates it is shown me an upgrade of "Thinkpad X1 Carbon  5th Management Engine Update"
[11:14] <adac> This upgrade is not shown in apt
[11:14] <adac> Can I install/update this simply?
[11:14] <adac> Why is it not appearing in apt?
[11:14] <blogten> jeremy31 : oh yeah... that does look like the actual issue...
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> adac: firmware updates are shown in software center for some types of computers
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> adac: you can update & reboot safely, do not abort or powercut while its updating
[11:19] <adac> lotuspsychje, kk cool thanks!
[11:29] <blogten> I don't understand how is it that one can do a fresh install on the bcache device on top of the raid array, after adding / changing partitions etc, and the first boot sends me to an old linux install that surely should have been deleted by now
[11:40] <bazul> jesus some really dumb people running a pc store where I buy most of my stuff
[11:41] <blackflow> blogten: grub was probably not configured or was misconfigured, perhaps os prober found both your installations and defaulted to the wrong one. at any rate, that's where you should look at
[11:42] <blogten> it's really bizarre, the linux install that booted up was installed in different partitions, and yet booted anyway...
[11:42] <blogten> obviously I don't understand and it's my problem, nevertheless I'm surprised just the installation bit is so difficult...
[11:43] <blogten> or rather, *this* difficult (rather than *so* difficult)
[11:44] <blogten> it shouldn't be hard.  1: set up software raid 1 for two hdds.  2.  on one of the partitions of the raid 1 array, set up a bcache device.  3.  install on the bcache device (and thus on the raid array).
[11:44] <blogten> it just feels like there are a multitude of roadblocks
[11:52] <blackflow> blogten: I'd really recommend you look into ZFS or (if you have to) btrfs, instead of this bcache atop of raid loosely integrated mess.
[11:55] <blogten> well, that was the second plan anyway
[11:55] <blogten> in *my* system, which *I* had originally configured, there is hardware RAID and no nvme (older box)
[11:56] <blogten> but that's a 6 year old box
[11:56] <blogten> then the suggestion came "you don't want hardware RAID because if the controller fails you don't know you will ever get the data out"
[11:56] <blogten> this came with a suitable horror story
[11:57] <blogten> so ok, software raid it is (and hence mdadm into the picture)
[11:58] <blogten> but then of course you want nvme speed out of that, without the horror story of the flash device failing catastrophically on you, and neither doing raid 1 so they both fail at the same time (never mind the expense), and neither getting huge nvme devices to have rust-size storage at a reasonable price
[11:58] <blogten> and this is how the bcache on top of mdadm suggestion came in
[11:58] <blogten> and what I am finding is that, in practice, it's a huge PITA
[11:59] <blogten> or, of course, the next suggestion will be that I am as yet uneducated on how to deal with this
[12:00] <blackflow> blogten: bacache + mdadm are not integrated, like btrfs or zfs internals are
[12:00] <blackflow> blogten: and I remember seeing some nasty data-eating bugs about bcache few months ago. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
[12:01] <blogten> well now I am reading on that too... first thing was to figure out if zfs was even supported on linux because e.g. I do not remember the installer giving the option to install on zgs...
[12:01] <blogten> do you mean bcache, or bcachefs?
[12:01] <blackflow> blogten: the installer doesn't yet support it, chances are 20.04 will have it.   but then you can install it manually, with debootstrap. that's how I install ubuntu anyway.
[12:01] <blackflow> blogten: bcache. bcachefs is nowhere near ready to be touched.
[12:03] <blackflow> I've got dozens of servers and some desktops, all installed with debootstrap, root on ZFS on LUKS. Learning how to is critical to understanding the filesystem and knowing how to fix any later breakage, or do regular maintenance (eg. swapping out drives for the raid)
[12:11] <munsking> hello
[12:11] <pragmaticenigma> hello munsking
[12:12] <blogten> I am sure debootstrap, and ZFS, and many others can be studied and mastered.  at some point though, I wish people writing these tons of very complicated software would kindly consider the day only has 24 hours and people have their own things to do
[12:13] <pragmaticenigma> blogten: For discussions and commentary, please consider the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. It's preferred to keep this channel for support specific questions and answers
[12:13] <blogten> I suspect the problem with bcache you referred to is that 2017 thread from the linux-bcache mailing list pointing out data races with 4.14 kernels
[12:13] <munsking> i've got an issue with VLC and teamviewer on ubuntu 18.10, vlc runs fine, but as soon as i start a teamviewer session vlc mutes, i can't find any working solution for this anywhere :/ has anyone here had similar issues and managed to fix it?
[12:15] <pragmaticenigma> munsking: Look into Team Viewer and see if it has any options for sound redirection. I don't believe it is muting the audio, as much as it is trying to capture the audio to send to the remote viewer
[12:15] <tuxinator> munsking: i assume teamviewer is somehow redirecting audio
[12:15] <tuxinator> pragmaticenigma: you won :-) 1 sec faster than me :D
[12:16] <cfhowlett> munsking/ if teamviewer is seizing audio priority, perhaps disable output i/o?
[12:17] <munsking> pragmaticenigma, tuxinator i guessed as much but i can't find anything for that... it didn't do that on other *buntus (using kubuntu now)
[12:17] <munsking> cfhowlett, hmm how?
[12:17] <tuxinator> munsking: different versions of teamviewer? they changed a lot and if i remember they changed form wine version to a native one for Linux
[12:18] <cfhowlett> munsking/ presumably teamviewer settings
[12:18] <munsking> tuxinator, nope, still using v12 since by boss doesn't want to pay
[12:20] <blackflow> blogten: the complexity of the software is matching the functionality and benefits it offers.
[12:20] <tuxinator> munsking: payment does not rely on version i think
[12:21] <munsking> tuxinator, we'd have to update the license to a subscription, he bought it with a pay once license
[12:22] <munsking> oh i fixed it, i set the audio output in teamviewer to the graphics card and i don't have monitors with audio (even if i did, still fine i guess)
[12:26] <Tankburn> everytime ubuntu has an update for initramfs it thinks it should boot to some ghost boot path stuck in my EFI settings... has anyone had this before?
[12:26] <Tankburn> Correction: everytime ubuntu has an update for initramfs it thinks it boots to some ghost boot path stuck in my EFI settings... has anyone had this before?
[12:27] <Tankburn> sorry my english isnt the best
[12:29] <pragmaticenigma> Tankburn: You might want to check out efibootmgr
[12:29] <pragmaticenigma> !info efibootmgr
[12:30] <Tankburn> ah ok, thanks ill have a look. My EFI/BIOS has so many duplicate bootable options, it is a nightmare.
[12:32] <EriC^^> Tankburn: i'd think something is wrong with your grub menu stuff
[12:32] <EriC^^> Tankburn: it doesnt really make sense, initramfs updates only trigger grub-update nothing related to grub-install or uefi
[12:33] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: I would read the entire discussion before offering advice
[12:34] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: does it start here? Tankburn> everytime ubuntu has an update for initramfs it thinks it should boot to some ghost boot path stuck in my EFI settings... has anyone had this bef
[12:34] <Tankburn> yeah it started there
[12:34] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: i'm not sure what you're hinting at
[12:34] <Tankburn> im relatively new to ubuntu guys
[12:35] <Tankburn> maybe it wasnt that particular part of the update then
[12:35] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: it is possible that to updates grub are causing the EFI boot mgr to rebuild its index and including stale entries
[12:35] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: yeah that's possible if grub is being updated via apt
[12:35] <Tankburn> yeah that is what I suspect
[12:36] <Tankburn> I used the software updater
[12:37] <Tankburn> after running sudo efibootmgr -v it tells me No BootOrder is set; firmware will attempt recovery
[12:39] <EriC^^> Tankburn: can you share " nc termbin.com 9999 < <(sudo efibootmgr -v; sudo ls -lR /boot/efi; sudo blkid) "
[12:42] <Tankburn> https://pastebin.com/ttKtkWE4
[12:43] <Tankburn> Cheers EriC
[12:44] <EriC^^> Tankburn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/902800/efi-boot-order-changes-on-package-upgrade
[12:44] <EriC^^> same problem as yours
[12:46] <EriC^^> Tankburn: can you type "mokutil --sb-state "?
[12:46] <Tankburn> Ill have a read, thanks
[12:57] <EriC^^> Tankburn: ?
[13:27] <djp_> how do u edit the first column of the menu that contains lock screen, logout etc? i'm using cinnamon/gnome as my wm.
[13:42] <AlexPortable> can someone help me get multitouch to work? I found out `synclient -l`, this shows me `Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?`. Now I found a post that shows me i should do this command `cp /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf`. however the xorg.conf.d folder is not there in /usr/share/X11/
[13:44] <tsglove> Hello.  I am trying to figure out why apt-get update is throwing an error in a machine I have.   Can somebody have a look at this paste?  --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BJQs2gmT6v/
[13:45] <tsglove> The update is telling me it has failed to fetch   bionice-backports
[13:45] <tsglove> *bionic-backports
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: Your errors indicate your internet connection is having troubles, your DNS provider is failing to resolve the addresses. Can you use a web browser and reach "http://archive.ubuntu.com" ?
[13:46] <tsglove> pragmaticenigma, on my way to check it out...  yes, it works.  I am looking on the browser at the  Index of /      on that site
[13:47] <tsglove> huh... I just tried a ping, from the server, and it failed.
[13:47] <tsglove> going to check  /etc/network/interfaces   as I gave this machine a static ip
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: Is your web browser on the same machine as the one experiencing difficulties?
[13:47] <tsglove> No sir.  It's a different one.
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: When you set a static ip address, did you also setup DNS resolving addresses?
[13:48] <tsglove> Yes, I set the "local" DNS.    Let me see if I can try with 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8
[13:50] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: In my experience, it is best not to set static IP addresses manually on the system. Instead setup the DHCP server to reserve and assign a specified IP address for that computer. That way you will not have to manage any of these settings, and new settings (like new DNS settings) can automatically be updated when the system rechecks its IP address reserve
[13:52] <tsglove> pragmaticenigma, true.  I did the static because if I wait for the sys-admin to reserve the MAC with the IP... it'll take a while.   Let me see if I can inspire him to do it now.
[13:53] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: I would discourage setting a static IP address on a network you do not control. You will cause IP conflicts and other issues if the network admin changes settings.
[13:57] <AlexPortable> can someone help me get multitouch to work? I found out `synclient -l`, this shows me `Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?`. Now I found a post that shows me i should do this command `cp /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf`. however the xorg.conf.d folder is not there in /usr/share/X11/
[14:19] <ghosalmartin> so i installed ubuntu on the a fakeraid setup. it found the device with no issues, but it boots to a black screen, no grub no nothing
[14:20] <ghosalmartin> now am getting systembootorder not found. initializing defaults
[14:20] <ghosalmartin> seems like a secureboot issue?
[14:28] <stoned> I am on ubuntu 18.04 lts. I installed ncdu and looked at what was taking up most space. While I was browsing /lib or /var/lib which was 3gb or so, I accidentall hit 'd' which caused some of the files to get deleted before I pressed 'q'. I don't know what to do. I'm afraid to reboot
[14:28] <stoned> :(
[14:28] <lordcirth__> ghosalmartin, what do you mean by fakeraid? Motherboard raid?
[14:29] <lordcirth__> stoned, lol. You could try reinstalling all packages, but it might fail. Backup and reinstall is probably safest.
[14:29] <stoned> man. my stupid fingers.
[14:29] <stoned> it's okay
[14:29] <lordcirth__> Doesn't ncdu confirm before deletion unless you change that setting?
[14:29] <stoned> 18.04 to 19.04 and latest ubuntu is so buggy, I had to reinstall 18.04 on my desktop again last night
[14:29] <stoned> no bugs
[14:30] <stoned> Now on my laptop I have to reinstall 18.04, no big deal.
[14:30] <stoned> need to do a minimal install anyway, every update is too many mb to download
[14:30] <stoned> too many packets i don't even use
[14:30] <lordcirth__> stoned, also, don't run ncdu as root next time; you shouldn't need it to just look
[14:30] <stoned> I learned my lesson
[14:31] <stoned> thank you dar lord
[14:31] <stoned> dear*
[14:32] <stoned> I have s usb already prepared with 18.04 kubuntu lts on it. everything in .home is configured already. I just have to install kubuntu again, install xmonad, xmobar, dmenu, suckles tools, and I'm golden. oh and chrome, vim and vagrant.
[14:32] <stoned> I stupidly browsed around ubuntu software thingy and installed a lot of stuff to check it out. bloated my pc
[14:34] <CookieM> that’s why server editions don’t have graphical session packaged installed–less packaged=less dependencies=more stable system
[14:35] <stoned> what is a good terminal with transparency? I don't need composite or anything
[14:35] <stoned> No, kubuntu has minimal install option
[14:35] <stoned> you don't have to use the full kde suit like kde pim and all that
[14:35] <CookieM> packaged/packages
[14:35] <stoned> it's just a browser, kubuntu base and some bare min apps
[14:35] <CookieM> aha
[14:35] <stoned> that's minimal enough for me
[14:35] <stoned> I didn't mean the actual minimal install from netinst iso
[14:35] <stoned> sorry
[14:36] <lordcirth__> !chat
[14:36] <stoned> Though that is always an option, and one can use tasksel later to determine what software to get
[14:38] <stoned> what is a good terminal with transparency? I don't need composite or anything, even fake transparency is ok. I tried terminix or terminology or tilix and they all have an issue where every split or tiled new terminal mdi window or regular window also splits the background
[14:38] <stoned> so every new terminal window has a version of the background in it,  just smaller
[14:39] <stoned> I would like a terminal like urxvt which no matterhow many you have tiled on screen, the background remains the same size, and no breaks, no seams
[14:39] <stoned> dos this make sense?
[14:39] <stoned> but urxvt is old and has its own issues.
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> easy with the enter button stoned
[14:40] <stoned> I use it because of perl plugins. Any suggesitons? just need transparency to test out
[14:40] <stoned> ok
[14:40] <lordcirth__> stoned, why not use tmux instead of splitting your terminal?
[14:40] <stoned> sometimes you need to view multiple terminals together
[14:40] <ghosalmartin> lordcirth__ yes mobo raid, also it seems that secureboot was fucking some stuff up
[14:41] <stoned> for example
[14:41] <lordcirth__> !ohmy | ghosalmartin
[14:41] <lordcirth__> ghosalmartin, so, did you fix it already? As you said "was"
[14:42] <ghosalmartin> lordcirth__, yeah seems to of fixed the issue, i need to reinstall since it seems i messed up my password
[14:42] <lordcirth__> ghosalmartin, ok. By the way, I'd recommend using mdraid instead of your motherboard's
[14:43] <ghosalmartin> yeah I saw that and attempted to set it up, but ijn the end i gave up. i saw a few articles and the diff was negligible tbf. i am using it as a build machine
[14:43] <stoned> it's not a good idea to use firmware raid from motherboard. if something goes wrong with mobo, you have to replace it with the exact same one and can't rebuild your raid.
[14:43] <ghosalmartin> thats fine am going for raid0
[14:43] <stoned> it's highly recommended to use software raid
[14:43] <lordcirth__> ^ yes, that. Also mdraid shows you status and rebuild progress and so on
[14:43] <ghosalmartin> honestly all the important stuff is in git, so no need to worry about it
[14:43] <stoned> cpus are plenty fast these days so using sw raid is ok
[14:43] <lordcirth__> ghosalmartin, what problem did you have setting up mdraid? It's fairly simple
[14:44] <ghosalmartin> lordcirth__, tbh when i tried it i was attempting it with manjaro, and the installer wouldnt pick up the created array
[14:44] <ghosalmartin> both normal and architect
[14:44] <lordcirth__> ghosalmartin, ah. Well the Ubuntu installer makes it very easy
[14:45] <ghosalmartin> yeah i used that first, but after hitting a brick wall with fakeraid i wanted to make sure it wasnt a dist issue and lot ofs people are raving about manjaro atm
[14:45] <ghosalmartin> long story short it was all a secureboot issue. its odd how secureboot didn't break when i installed it on only 1 drive
[14:46] <ghosalmartin> after that was disabled it sailed through
[14:46] <Azjo> what does it mean when i get kicked back to login just because i open up firefox? LTS 18.04 live
[14:46] <stoned> https://imgur.com/a/j3tsvza here's a shot of the rxvt terminals. irc on top, another terminal on bottom. You see how two terminal windows are tiled. Any other terminal with transparency, you will see the same background, smaller, in each tiled window.
[14:47] <stoned> rxvt-unicode-256color is the only terminal which display the background properly among tiled/many windows
[14:47] <stoned> it's because I run weechat on my vps in screen, and I run screen at homelocally too, and I don't want todo screen inside screen. Too many contrl +a pushes
[14:48] <Azjo> whats the fastest way to remotely control ubuntu from windows?
[14:49] <leftyfb> Azjo: control in what sense?
[14:49] <Azjo> remote gui
[14:50] <leftyfb> Azjo: locally or over the internet?
[14:50] <Azjo> locally
[14:50] <stoned> https://imgur.com/a/RFEEh9l here's another example. third terminal on bottom, background is not split.
[14:50] <leftyfb> Azjo: you can try VNC. https://tecadmin.net/setup-x11vnc-server-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/
[14:51] <Azjo> which i have to setup in ubuntu?
[14:51] <stoned> Azjo: ssh into it
[14:51] <KEYCLOMED> 好多人呀！
[14:51] <stoned> then you have full control.
[14:51] <Azjo> i want gui though
[14:51] <KEYCLOMED> 都睡了吗？
[14:51] <leftyfb> Azjo: you can try VNC. https://tecadmin.net/setup-x11vnc-server-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/
[14:52] <stoned> you are familiar with vnc or rdp? azjo
[14:52] <leftyfb> Azjo: please follow the instructions in the link I gave you
[14:52] <Azjo> what does it mean when i get kicked back to login screen when i open firefox??
[14:52] <Azjo> yes stoned
[14:52] <leftyfb> Azjo: that is a completely different issue. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:53] <Azjo> well, i just want to install teamviewer but i cant do that without firefox
[14:53] <stoned> there is also ssh -X.
[14:53] <leftyfb> stoned: that will not work on Windows without an X server installed
[14:53] <leftyfb> Azjo: I see you mentioned "LTS 18.04 live". Is Ubuntu installed or are you running this from a live cd/usb?
[14:54] <Azjo> live usb
[14:54] <leftyfb> Azjo: ok, install ubuntu
[14:54] <Azjo> ugh
[14:54] <stoned> You can run Xming or something on windows, forward x11 traffic from ubuntu, and run putty to ssh in to ubuntu, and run xclient apps, which then will run on your local windows x server
[14:54] <Azjo> thats not the point of live usb is it
[14:54] <stoned> you can do this on live too
[14:54] <leftyfb> Azjo: every time you reboot, you lose all your changes
[14:54] <Azjo> how do i solve firefox doing this bug when i open it?
[14:55] <stoned> I don't know. I use chromium
[14:55] <leftyfb> Azjo: try booting into the live usb again
[14:56] <stoned> bye
[14:56] <Azjo> do i have to set it to run in a special way perhaps?
[15:00] <Azjo> also, i remember trying a live version where it saved everything on the go?
[15:00] <OerHeks> live iso is read only, you could try to make a livce usb with persistence part
[15:01] <OerHeks> https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/
[15:02] <Azjo> it has been quite a long time since ive done linux in general, i kinda thought that was the norm nowadays hmm
[15:02] <OerHeks> never been standard, AFAIK
[15:10] <JimBuntu> Slax was/is a persistent portable boot... but I don't remember Ubuntu live boot ever defaulting to persistent, although there are official documentation about setting that up
[15:11] <urgodfather> hello room, having trouble building with fakeroot
[15:12] <qqz> 大家好！
[15:13] <OerHeks> urgodfather, use paste.ubuntu.com for details
[15:14] <OerHeks> !cn | qqz
[15:15] <qqz> 收到，谢谢！
[15:15] <AlexPortable> can someone help me get multitouch to work? I found out `synclient -l`, this shows me `Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?`. Now I found a post that shows me i should do this command `cp /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf`. however the xorg.conf.d folder is not there in /usr/share/X11/
[15:17] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, the folder is there, just the file 50-synaptics.conf  does not exist there.
[15:17] <OerHeks> what guide do you follow?
[15:18] <AlexPortable>  /etc/X11/: app-defaults             rgb.txt  Xreset.d    Xsession.options cursors                  xinit    Xresources  xsm default-display-manager  xkb      Xsession    XvMCConfig fonts                    Xreset   Xsession.d  Xwrapper.config
[15:18] <AlexPortable> https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
[15:18] <AlexPortable> OerHeks:  ^
[15:19] <OerHeks> and  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ does not exist.. oh debian guide, try #debian?
[15:19] <AlexPortable> I'm on ubuntu
[15:19] <OerHeks> i thought for a while now you just use debian, and keep asking in #ubuntu
[15:20] <OerHeks> then do not use debian howto's...
[15:20] <OerHeks> lolz
[15:20] <HtotheO> Hi! If i have a process with vim running with a small amount of text. Is there a way i can kill this process with Top and "autosave" the content in my text file?
[15:23] <qqz>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:23] <qqz>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:24] <lordcirth__> HtotheO, not that I know of. Why can't you control vim to save it?
[15:25] <lordcirth__> HtotheO, although, if you kill vim (not vi?) I believe it saves a crash file you can recover the text from
[15:26] <coconut__> qq
[15:26] <coconut__> HtotheO
[15:26] <coconut__> oops
[15:31] <HtotheO> lordcirth__ Dont know why i have to do it, a teacher said that we should try it but cant find any information about it.
[15:32] <lordcirth__> HtotheO, you can configure vim in advance to do certain actions when a certain signal is received.
[15:33] <lordcirth__> At least I think you can. You can configure a lot of things
[15:48] <Azjo> i just installed ubuntu 18.04 LTS, it keeps kicking me out to login within 10 seconds. what do i do?
[15:50] <thnee> I tried editing both /etc/profile and /etc/environment, but it is not getting picked up. Is this because this is in a docker container? And they "optimized" away that part or something?
[15:50] <Azjo> ?? i need an email in order to get live patches?
[15:52] <Azjo> i keep getting kicked out to login.. this is bs
[15:54] <kinghat> wonder how long it will take to get the ff desktop update?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: it will be out when its released
[15:54] <Azjo> noone knows how to fix this issue with getting kicked out to login as soon as i open pretty much any window?
[15:54] <kinghat> the desktop fix hasnt been released?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: give the devs the time to work on it
[15:57] <kinghat> i got androids update, i thought i read it was out before mobile..
[15:57] <OerHeks> i did no tweak at all, and got the fix trough firefox itself...
[15:58] <OerHeks> i did nothing indeed, this is my studies https://imgur.com/a/vsO1pVs i see that H bug-1548973
[15:58] <Azjo> does ubuntu has issues with geforce 5200?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Azjo try this
[15:59] <OerHeks> geforce 5200 is so old, just for text oke, but video, no
[16:01] <Azjo> so i have to go geek mode
[16:01] <Azjo> thats not why i installed ubuntu
[16:02] <OerHeks> Azjo, interesting, did you read the specs of the ubuntu version?
[16:03] <kinghat> lotuspsychje: 66.0.4 was released: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/66.0.4/releasenotes/
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: thats from mozilla
[16:03] <kinghat> yuh
[16:03] <Azjo> yeah this machine is fine
[16:04] <Azjo> i saw a thread that says it has something to do with gfx driver being faulty
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: so give it a bit time to get to the ubuntu devs
[16:04] <Azjo> so i cant do anything and i refuse to start typing alot cos i cant sit down at it :x
[16:04] <kinghat> ah i see what youre saying.
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: i hope you understand fixing things takes some time
[16:05] <OerHeks> Azjo, your videocard/gpu is out of date, be happy with it.
[16:05] <kinghat> why doesnt mozilla have their own repo/builds?
[16:05] <Azjo> be happy with what? not being able to run ubuntu? :p
[16:05] <OerHeks> kinghat, we have to get the build from Debian, i guess. no fresh snaps yet, https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: this is the ubuntu support channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[16:06] <Azjo> can i upgrade to 18.04 LTS from a 12.04 LTS?
[16:06] <kinghat> ok have a good one guys
[16:07] <OerHeks> 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 > 18.04 .. but the 12.04 repos are long time offline, i would reinstall
[16:07] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[16:08] <Azjo> ugh
[16:08] <Azjo> a simple install turning into a major project.. linux in a nutshell :p
[16:10] <Azjo> im in settings, where can i find display related settings?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: what are you trying to set?
[16:11] <OerHeks> in 12.04?
[16:11] <Azjo> im trying to change the driver i guess
[16:11] <Azjo> gdm3 or whatever can be done
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: to be able to help you we need some more details of you please pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a
[16:12] <Azjo> yeah while standing up..
[16:12] <Azjo> i cant even remote into it cos i cant run anything
[16:13] <OerHeks> as you claim the specs are fine, i doubt that with a geforce 5200, lubuntu may be more suitable\
[16:14] <Azjo> i got putty now, can i not login to the ubuntu immediately or do i need to enable access to ssh?
[16:16] <OerHeks> you need to install a ssh-service on the host, not installed by default
[16:17] <Azjo> i cant even run a terminal without getting kicked back to login
[16:17] <Azjo> how do i circumvent this?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: did you try the !nomodeset yet?
[16:17] <Azjo> how do i do that?
[16:18] <OerHeks> install lubuntu, not the heavy gnome3 version
[16:18] <leftyfb> OerHeks: they're running a live usb
[16:18] <Azjo> cant i set it to gnome2 gnome1?
[16:18] <leftyfb> Azjo: You REALLY aren't meant to be doing all of this in a live environment
[16:19] <Azjo> yeah, i installed it now
[16:19] <Azjo> so this is not live anymore, yet its no better
[16:19] <leftyfb> oh, ok. I missed that
[16:19] <Azjo> np
[16:19] <Azjo> how do i open up a terminal somehow, if im not allowed to open the terminal by rightclicking desktop?
[16:20] <leftyfb> Azjo: CTRL+ALT+F2
[16:21] <Azjo> no reaction
[16:22] <leftyfb> uh
[16:22] <leftyfb> Azjo: CTRL+ALT+F3 ?
[16:22] <leftyfb> Azjo: if you're not able to switch tty's, something isn't right
[16:23] <leftyfb> Azjo: you are doing this on the machine right? Not over ssh or vnc or anything
[16:23] <Azjo> perhaps unetbootin fucked up the live usb disk?
[16:23] <Azjo> yes on the machine, i literally cannot do much
[16:24] <leftyfb> Azjo: unetbootin is not supported anymore. Regardless, if you completed the ubuntu install and rebooted into the new install without the usb, then how to flashed the installer usb doesn't really matter. Just the iso you used.
[16:24] <Azjo> fk it, reinstalling
[16:24] <leftyfb> Azjo: try flashing your usb using etcher.io
[16:24] <Azjo> well, i used the 18.04 LTS
[16:24] <leftyfb> Azjo: which iso are you using exactly? What is the filename?
[16:25] <Azjo> ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: try a lighter ubuntu flavour as OerHeks suggested
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: old geforce + gnome3 will be a no go
[16:26] <Azjo> im dissapointed, i thought linux was made to work with everything forever :p
[16:27] <Azjo> theres no way to make ubuntu run in less than gnome3?
[16:27] <Azjo> i have a feeling that is a retard question but eh.
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: do you even read what been suggested?
[16:28] <Azjo> ye, im gonna try etcher first, then lubuntu
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> great
[16:28] <leftyfb> Azjo: please watch the language in here
[16:28] <Azjo> even when i refer to myself? ;p
[16:29] <student> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:29] <leftyfb> Azjo: yes
[16:29] <leftyfb> student: hello. Welcome to the Ubuntu community IRC support channel. What can we do for you?
[16:30] <student> how are you
[16:31] <Azjo> which non gnome3 distro is best for gaming?
[16:32] <leftyfb> Azjo: We can only suggest Ubuntu and it's flavors here
[16:32] <Azjo> i doubt its gonna be used much anyway, but its for a family member who currently has a windows xp with 256mb ram so :p
[16:32] <Azjo> lubuntu can do the same i assume?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: you can play tetris on lubuntu sure
[16:32] <leftyfb> Azjo: wait, this machine you're working on only has 256mb of memory?
[16:32] <Azjo> no, this machine has 4gb
[16:33] <Azjo> athlon x64 4200 relax :p
[16:33] <leftyfb> Azjo: I would recommend lubuntu as has been suggested to you multiple times. Not gnome
[16:34] <Azjo> hmm what are the oldest gfx supported by gnome3? with agp perhaps?
[16:36] <lordcirth__> Azjo, it's not even about features, it'll just be a slideshow.
[16:37] <Azjo> hmm explain?
[16:38] <OerHeks> geforce 5200 is not on the page http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/304.135/README/supportedchips.html
[16:38] <lordcirth__> Azjo, if you have any graphics card that is AGP, gnome is not going to be useable due to performance.
[16:38] <lordcirth__> If someone has a 256MB computer, get them a better one.
[16:39] <Azjo> yeah, i wanted it to be this one
[16:40] <leftyfb> Azjo: I would recommend lubuntu as has been suggested to you multiple times. Or get a better computer.
[16:41] <lordcirth__> Lubuntu says the minimum is 512MB :P
[16:42] <Azjo> this machine has 4gb
[16:42] <stoned> Oh man, minimal kubuntu install is nice.
[16:44] <stoned> I like to use Chromium instead of Chrome, but distro packets get out of date, so do you know of any PPA or any other supported way to get latest/keep up to date the chromium browser?
[16:45] <stoned> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable is this okay or official or supported or whateveR?
[16:45] <Church-> Has anyone run into issues installing perf on Ub18?
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> stoned: we dont support external ppa's contact the maintainer
[16:46] <stoned> As for the 2nd part of my question?
[16:46] <Azjo> which LTS gave up gnome2? support in favor of going gnome3?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> stoned: apt-cache search yourpackage to find packages for your system
[16:46] <stoned> lotuspsychje: you're not being helpful.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Azjo: this is not the trivia channel
[16:47] <Azjo> its a serious question, perhaps i can go with that LTS if it still has updates
[16:47] <stoned> If you don't know any other supported way to get latest/keep up to date the chromium browser, then that's okay. Maybe someone else does.
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> !latest | stoned
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> stoned: you can try snaps and !backports too if you like
[16:48] <stoned> browser security is my concern
[16:48] <stoned> I don't want to browser with an outdated browser, surely you can understand that.
[16:48] <lordcirth__> Church-, what issue do you have?
[16:49] <lordcirth__> stoned, security fixes are backported
[16:49] <stoned> Great
[16:50] <Church-> lordcirth__: Just installing it. https://paste.rs/TKv
[16:50] <Azjo> what about ubuntu mate?
[16:50] <Azjo> vs lubuntu
[16:50] <lordcirth__> Azjo, It might work, but Lubuntu is the lightest flavor.
[16:51] <Azjo> what gnome is lubuntu running?
[16:51] <lordcirth__> Church-, that seems like only a warning to me?
[16:51] <lordcirth__> Azjo, it doesn't use Gnome, it uses LXDE, that's the point
[16:51] <Azjo> aha
[16:54] <rivyn> Hi guys, I accidentally created an /etc/sudoers.d/file with a typo in it, and now I can't sudo at all, due to a syntax error.  Is there any way I can correct this now?
[16:55] <lordcirth__> rivyn, reboot to recovery, get a root shell, and fix it.
[16:55] <cryptodan> rivyn: boot up in recovery mode
[16:55] <rivyn> how can I do that?  It's an ESXi VM
[16:56] <lordcirth__> rivyn, does it have a grub bootloader?
[16:56] <rivyn> yeah, it's a default ubuntu install
[16:56] <rivyn> with some software added
[16:56] <lordcirth__> rivyn, and you have console / VNC access? Reboot it and choose recovery in the grub menu.
[16:56] <rivyn> I think I can get to a remote terminal...
[16:57] <teward> rivyn: if it's an ESXi VM you should be able to get into it with the ESXi Host Client / Console if you have admin on the ESXi
[16:57] <rivyn> I just got that up, working on it, thank you...
[16:57] <teward> from there you can gain access to the virtual 'console' that woudl give you direct machine access to the VM.
[16:59] <rivyn> it just shot past grub and the first thing that appeared on the remote console was the linux boot messages.
[16:59] <rivyn> Is there a key I can hold or press to make it pause at grub?
[16:59] <stoned> Bionic Version: 65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu1. Chromium latest version however, is 74.x
[16:59] <stoned> hmm
[17:00] <rivyn> nevermind, second try got to grub
[17:00] <ash_worksi> I know this isn't the place to ask, but if oyu know a better one, tell me: how is it that no matter where I post my GIFs (eg 'giphy.com') they never show up on messaging clients (eg Skype, FB messenger, etc...)?
[17:01] <rivyn> got it fixed, thanks guys!
[17:02] <lordcirth__> rivyn, in future, Shift will pause the grub timer
[17:04] <rivyn> lordcirth__: perfect, thank you
[17:10] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: could only find this debian howto, nothing for ubunt
[17:16] <drewbert61> Is there any way to "force" or to simulate a USB EMI Reenable?
[17:17] <AlexPortable> When can we expect firefox 66.0.4 in ubuntu?
[17:19] <roboirc> AlexPortable  check google
[17:19] <AlexPortable> google says there has been an update released for firefox, version 66.0.4, but when i apt update && apt install firefox it's still 66.0.3
[17:19] <roboirc> try updating via ppa
[17:20] <jcotton> there's a snap too
[17:20] <AlexPortable> you mean adding a new ppa?
[17:20] <jcotton> tho i remember it being buggy
[17:20] <AlexPortable> snaps are slow
[17:20] <AlexPortable> don't want to update every system with a ppa
[17:21] <OerHeks> Version 66.0.4-1 uploaded 12 hours ago in Sid, so i guess any moment .4 can hit the updateservers
[17:21] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/firefox
[17:21] <teward> AlexPortable: update issued doesn't mean update has been packaged and released yet, there's a process for upgrading in older releases.  Patience is a virtue uere.
[17:21] <teward> here*
[17:21] <OerHeks> don't ppa, and snaps are not slow
[17:22] <OerHeks> no fresh snaps yet, https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[17:38] <AlexPortable> teward: well that's why i ask, how long will it approximately take
[17:39] <teward> AlexPortable: there's no specified clear timeline which is why I was intentionally vague with my answer
[17:41] <OerHeks> i did no tweaks, and i can use FF extentions again... this is my studies https://imgur.com/a/vsO1pVs i see that H bug-1548973
[17:41] <leonardus> GDM won't start, anyone know a fix? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2gSQTDe8/IMG_20190506_134017.jpg
[17:42] <lordcirth__> leonardus, can you get a tty login?
[17:42] <leonardus> Ctrl+Alt+F2 does nothing lordcirth__
[17:43] <teward> AlexPortable: OerHeks: 66.0.4 is currently in proposed in the development release, chances are that needs to be confirmed working first before they can port it back to the other releases.  No ETA/timeline currently as far as I can tell, but that's a question for the Desktop Team really.
[17:44] <lordcirth__> leonardus, what changed since the last time it did work? Updates? What graphics card and drivers?
[17:44] <lordcirth__> Also what Ubuntu version?
[17:45] <leonardus> I recently upgraded to 19.04, but I've had it work before on 19.04. I have an AMD GPU. It's possible that was caused it was me holding the power button to shut down, but not sure.
[17:46] <lordcirth__> leonardus, why did you hold it down? Was it frozen?
[17:46] <leonardus> Yeah it was bugging out
[17:47] <leonardus> I had VLC open and it wouldn't exit fullscreen, and when it did, the desktop icons showed up over the video for some reason
[17:47] <lordcirth__> leonardus, can you boot into recovery?
[17:47] <leonardus> I didn't know what was going on
[17:47] <leonardus> Not sure how lordcirth__
[17:47] <lordcirth__> leonardus, reboot, and in grub, choose other -> recovery
[17:47] <lordcirth__> Then choose shell
[17:48] <leonardus> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IxAyL1iS/IMG_20190506_134812.jpg
[17:48] <leonardus> Which one? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/roj30DHN/irccloudcapture1740221761730128712.jpg
[17:49] <lordcirth__> leonardus, advanced options, recovery
[17:50] <leonardus> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wE08l7z8/irccloudcapture5298483976368506605.jpg
[17:50] <lordcirth__> leonardus, root shell
[17:51] <teward> AlexPortable: OerHeks: I have it on good authority builds are underway, but still no ETA on release/migration to the main repositories.
[17:51] <leonardus> "Press enter for maintenance or press Control-D to continue"
[17:51] <teward> best I cay say is "Soon" for the firefox updates.
[17:51] <sappheiros> !laptop
[17:51] <sappheiros> yay :D
[17:52] <sappheiros> should that be updated to point to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop instead?
[17:53] <leonardus> lordcirth__: assuming I'm supposed to press enter?
[17:53] <lordcirth__> leonardus, yes.
[17:54] <leonardus> Ok I'm at a root prompt.
[17:54] <lordcirth__> leonardus, yup. Now you can look through /var/log/syslog and dmesg for errors that might be informative.
[17:57] <leonardus> Yeah I see some stuff saying fatal error. Let me get a picture, one moment
[17:57] <leonardus> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5QMg8TmO/irccloudcapture7702774024402753326.jpg
[17:57] <plundra> Is there some neat way of never installing packages from a certain component, unless explicitly told so? Preferably also upgrading when it comes available, even with that component.
[17:58] <leonardus> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/g6MLxu0O/irccloudcapture565143017091295589.jpg
[17:58] <plundra> I'd like to always explicitly install things from universe, to force a second round of thinking before using out-of-main packages.
[17:59] <tomreyn> sappheiros: there is #ubuntu-discuss where such could be discussed and prepared. also have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop?action=info
[17:59] <lordcirth__> leonardus, please pipe it to 'nc termbin.com 9999' and post the link so I can see the text properly. Thanks
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> plundra: give us an example please? you want some packages updated and some not?
[18:00] <leonardus> The wifi isn't working in recovery mode, would have done that
[18:00] <leonardus> Tried restarting network-manager, that didn't fix it
[18:01] <leonardus> Oh, it's working now
[18:01] <leonardus> https://termbin.com/phoo
[18:01] <plundra> lotuspsychje: If I chose to install a package from universe, I'd like for it to be updated, yes. But I'd like installing the package in the first place from universe be a consious thing.
[18:01] <lordcirth__> lotuspsychje, I think plundra means that he wants universe packages to be updated, but not to install new ones without confirmation?
[18:02] <leonardus> https://termbin.com/pqz3
[18:02] <plundra> lotuspsychje: Kinda like target release, but for components.
[18:03] <lordcirth__> leonardus, try rebooting, editing the default boot grub line, and adding 'nomodeset' to the end of the linux kernel line
[18:04] <leonardus> How do I edit the default boot grub line?
[18:04] <lordcirth__> Grub shows the keys at the bottom. e, I think?
[18:07] <leonardus> doesn't look like that fixed anything https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/J2tgccKD/irccloudcapture8413437187125682338.jpg
[18:10] <tomreyn> plundra: the best approach is probabyl to run "apt show PACKAGE" before you decide to install a package, to see which section it is from. packages from main do not depends on packages in other sections (but maybe they will recommend some, not sure)
[18:10] <tomreyn> !apt-pinning
[18:10] <tomreyn> !pinning
[18:11] <tomreyn> ^ that's your other option. to set a Pin-Priority >=100 but <500
[18:11] <tomreyn> ...for the universe / multiverse sections
[18:12] <tomreyn> see also apt_preferences(5)
[18:12] <leonardus> Is this salvageable? Considering a fresh install
[18:12] <plundra> tomreyn: Yeah tried that, but can install things fine via name. Setting it ot negative I have to explicitly pick the version for it to work.
[18:13] <plundra> I've mostly used it with debian in the past and target releases, like apt-get -t experimental packagefoo
[18:13] <plundra> Maybe it's not possible to have something similar.
[18:14] <tomreyn> plundra: not having those repositories enabled is always an option, too.
[18:14] <Samyb> *hear
[18:14] <Samyb> Hello all, I've been a long time lover of Ubuntu but I here lately there is target advert stuff built into later versions. Is this true?
[18:14] <lordcirth__> Samyb, no
[18:14] <plundra> Yeah, I know. That was my initial approach :-) But instantly had to have something from universe (python3-libvirt), and I'm sure there will be more.
[18:15] <qwebirc86811> Hi all, hoping someone could help me out. I've installed Ubuntu for the first time, along side a windows 10 partition. I've managed to mount it, setting me as owner and setting permissions ot 777, but when I try to use a file (with docker-compose build), it says it doesn't have permission. I don't understand why.
[18:15] <plundra> So I'd just like to force consiousness :) But yeah, will try to have it some other way.
[18:15] <lordcirth__> qwebirc86811, by "it" you mean your windows partition?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Samyb: elaborate advert?
[18:15] <qwebirc86811> lordcirth__, yah ,sorry for being unclear. I'm mounting the windows partition.
[18:16] <Samyb> advertisements
[18:16] <dirtmaster88> Pardon me if this has already been discussed but any word on when (or we can see the status) on Firefox getting updated to 66.0.4 in the Ubuntu repos? The certificate issue from the weekend that disables addons makes the browsing experience quite undesireable!
[18:16] <lordcirth__> Samyb, there was one release where the search would also search Amazon. That was then retracted.
[18:16] <tomreyn> plundra: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported   provides a list of packages outside of main/restrcited.
[18:16] <OerHeks> dirtmaster88, soon
[18:16] <Samyb> So for example keeping track of user data and sending it to marketers so they can provide more relevant ads
[18:16] <lordcirth__> leonardus, it should be salvageable, but if reinstalling isn't a problem for you, that might be easier.
[18:16] <tomreyn> plundra: ...just dubbed "not supported" there
[18:17] <dirtmaster88> OerHeks: heh alrighty thx!
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> Samyb: no thats not the case on ubuntu
[18:17] <tyler> hello
[18:17] <Samyb> lordcirth__ oh I see that would explain it as any search on Amazon would lead to some user data collection right?
[18:17] <tomreyn> plundra: so you could monitor this, build per system diffs, and use your whip.
[18:18] <lordcirth__> Samyb, it would, and people didn't like that, and it was pulled.
[18:18] <lordcirth__> tyler, hi
[18:18] <sealant> Hello, I have installed google authenticator for ssh with these instructions. https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/ssh-two-factor-authentication-ubuntu-16-04-google-authenticator When I try to log in, I get the MOTD, and then it logs me out. I am looking at server logs /var/log/auth.log, and it says PAM: pam_open_session(): Module is unknown
[18:18] <OerHeks> Samyb, that was a hoax, Amazon never collected user data
[18:18] <Samyb> ok glad it was pulled. Thanks for the info lordcirth__ and lotuspsychje
[18:19] <plundra> tomreyn: Ah, right, forgot about that one. Yeah something like that will probably do I guess. Monitor for changes :-)
[18:19] <plundra> tomreyn: Thanks.
[18:19] <lordcirth__> sealant, "sudo updatedb; locate pam_google_authenticator.so" - is it there?
[18:20] <Samyb> OerHeks I know for a fact they do. I've made a search for a certain model camera and saw ads for the exact same camera on all sorts of pages
[18:20] <OerHeks> search in dash ?
[18:21] <Samyb> No that search was in browser
[18:21] <tomreyn> plundra: this does something similar ro ubuntu-support-status, very useful especially before and after release upgrades https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[18:21] <sealant> lordcirth__: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/security/pam_google_authenticator.so
[18:21] <OerHeks> Samyb, oh oke, then it is not related to amazon seach
[18:21] <lordcirth__> Samyb, the dash search was proxied through Canonical's servers to prevent tracking.
[18:21] <OerHeks> lordcirth__, +1
[18:22] <Samyb> Cool
[18:22] <Samyb> Well I'm glad I missed ubuntu lol
[18:22] <Samyb> brb time to install
[18:23] <qwebirc86811> Bah, I'm really not understanding permissions...
[18:24] <lordcirth__> qwebirc86811, mounting NTFS will not get you normal POSIX permissions, normally.
[18:25] <qwebirc86811> They show up as
[18:25] <qwebirc86811> -rwxrwxrwx 1 rohit root   583 Apr 24 09:49 docker-compose.yml
[18:26] <OerHeks> maybe that windows 10 is on ExFat, or Encrypted/bitlocker
[18:26] <qwebirc86811> Hm... I don't think I encrypted anything, but guess it could be
[18:27] <qwebirc86811> I'm guessing then if I want to do this, I need to think of another way of sharing files?
[18:30] <qwebirc86811> out of curiosity, why would exfat make a difference?
[18:32] <dsynapse> hey
[18:32] <tomreyn> sealant: this sounds like you added, in /etc/pam.d/sshd, "session required pam_google_authenticator.so" rather than "auth required pam_google_authenticator.so", or you added a full path, not just the file name.
[18:33] <lordcirth__> qwebirc86811, it would probably be easiest to just copy the files over to your Linux filesystem.
[18:33] <dsynapse> Does the default kernel in Ubuntu 19.04 have the ACS patch built-in, or if not, are there kernels that are available that do?
[18:33] <lordcirth__> dsynapse, what is ACS in this context?
[18:33] <studio-useri7112> Hi, i just have a quick question. I installed ubuntu studio just fine but when i get to the end it fails to install grub for some reason. /sda has Windows 10 on it if that's of any help. Thanks for any advice
[18:33] <dsynapse> ACS for helping with PCI passthrough
[18:33] <lordcirth__> studio-useri7112, well, what error message do you get?
[18:34] <perre> g'evening
[18:34] <lordcirth__> dsynapse, this? https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2638691/
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> welcome perre
[18:34] <qwebirc86811> @lordcirth__ I'm hoping to be able to use them between
[18:34] <studio-useri7112> im not at home right now sorry but it said fatal error could not install Grub to /sda
[18:34] <dsynapse> lordcirth__ yes
[18:34] <lordcirth__> studio-useri7112, well, I doubt we can help you without the computer.
[18:34] <qwebirc86811> I have 3 partitions: a windows partition, a data partition, and a ubuntu partition
[18:35] <qwebirc86811> I'm hoping to use the data partition between both OSes
[18:35] <sealant> tomreyn: no it says "auth required pam_google_authenticator.so"
[18:36] <lordcirth__> dsynapse, from what I can tell, it's enabled by default in modern kernels?
[18:36] <dsynapse> okay, i was thinking so, but in reading various forums it looks like some distributions may not have it on or not so wanted to check
[18:36] <dsynapse> thanks!
[18:37] <sealant> tomreyn: in fact, it says that whether or not i have the line in the pam file, if i have `UsePAM yes` in sshd_config
[18:38] <tomreyn> sealant: and you restarted the service?
[18:38] <sealant> tomreyn: yes
[18:38] <sealant> there is another log above  that says PAM unable to dlopen(ignore=ignore): /lib/security/ignore=ignore cannot open shared object
[18:39] <lordcirth__> That sounds like it might be the actual problem, then
[18:39] <tomreyn> that looks like a configuration issue
[18:39] <sealant> PAM adding faulty module: ignore=ignore
[18:40] <lordcirth__> sealant, "grep -r ignore /etc/pam.d/"
[18:41] <sealant> lordcirth__: there are 12 lines matching. two are in pam.d/sshd
[18:42] <sealant>  `session success=ok ignore=ignore module_unknown=ignore default=bad pam_selinux.so open`
[18:42] <sealant>  `session success=ok ignore=ignore module_unknown=ignore default=bad pam_selinux.so close`
[18:43] <lordcirth__> sealant, I believe it should be "session [success=ok ignore=ignore module_unknown=ignore default=bad]  pam_selinux.so open"
[18:43] <lordcirth__> Just add the []
[18:45] <OerHeks> sudo pam-auth-update # and google auth might be in that list
[18:48] <sealant> man pam.d says ` Note, if you wish to include spaces in an argument, you should surround that argument with square brackets.`
[18:49] <lordcirth__> All the default files on my system have that [] format, so I think that's your problem.
[18:52] <sealant> ok i can log in now
[18:53] <sealant> after adding the []
[18:53] <sealant> but it isnt prompting for 2FA
[18:53] <lordcirth__> sealant, can you please pastebin the /etc/pam.d/sshd?
[18:54] <sealant> lordcirth__: http://dpaste.com/1D1BTTN
[18:56] <sealant> and /etc/ssh/sshd_config http://dpaste.com/33EE5E4
[18:56] <sealant> OerHeks: that command brings up a curses dialog
[18:57] <lordcirth__> sealant, move the google line to line 5
[18:57] <lordcirth__> Order can matter in PAM
[18:58] <sealant> lordcirth__: did that, systemctl restart sshd, no difference
[19:03] <lordcirth__> sealant, try running pam-auth-update again?
[19:06] <ash_worksi> I know this isn't the place to ask, but if you know a better one, tell me: how is it that no matter where I post my GIFs (eg 'giphy.com') they never show up on messaging clients (eg Skype, FB messenger, etc...)?
[19:07] <sealant> lordcirth__: got it. answer was adding `AuthenticationMethods publickey,keyboard-interactive`. Described in man sshd_config
[19:10] <sealant> now it requires public key and password and 2FA code, which, if i'm honest is a bit of a pain :D
[19:13] <xrandr> Hi all. I was trying to use Wayland on Ubuntu 19.04. When I log in, it just boots me out to the login screen again. I am using lightdm as gdm was not working. Do I need to use the NVIDIA drivers provided by nvidia.com to make it work?
[19:13] <sealant> lordcirth__: tomreyn OerHeks thanks for your help :)
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> xrandr: wayland and nvidia isnt yet an ideal combo
[19:14] <xrandr> So I can't use Wayland then? If not, it's ok.
[19:15] <lordcirth__> sealant, cool, good to know
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> xrandr: what kind of graphics card chipset do you have?
[19:15] <OerHeks> wayland + nvidia is no go
[19:15] <OerHeks> uninstall nvidia, and wayland would work?
[19:16] <xrandr> OerHeks: I am using the ubuntu drivers, not nvidia's drivers.
[19:16] <xrandr> lotuspsychje: Nvida GTX 760
[19:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu/nivia drivers, that is oke.. but not for wayland
[19:17] <ioria> xrandr, and why are you using lightdm instead og gdm ?
[19:17] <ioria> *of
[19:17] <thagabe> @Oer
[19:18] <ScriptGeek> Is there a way to update a specific package from an older version OS, i.e. Ubuntu 18.04 to the same package released in Ubuntu 19.04?
[19:18] <thagabe> OerHeks on what DE?
[19:18] <OerHeks> wayland session should not showup, when nvidia is installed
[19:18] <xrandr> ioria: gdm wasn't working. It was just hanging instead of showing me a login screen
[19:18] <OerHeks> thagabe, i am not the asker.
[19:18] <thagabe> OerHeks It does when you enable DRM/KSM
[19:18] <thagabe> I've used it
[19:18] <ioria> xrandr, ìgdm3 is ok on 19.04; please details
[19:18] <thagabe> but chrome crashes everything
[19:19] <thagabe> im sorry
[19:19] <xrandr> ioria: Sorry?
[19:19] <thagabe> im on the wrong channel
[19:19] <ioria> xrandr, you said 'gdm wasn't working.' on 19.04
[19:19] <xrandr> it wasn't. It would just hang.
[19:19] <xrandr> not giving me the login screen or anything
[19:20] <xrandr> I turned on the boot messages so I could see what was going on. It just hung at "Starting GDM"
[19:20] <ioria> xrandr, ids that a fresh install ?
[19:20] <xrandr> yes
[19:21] <ioria> xrandr, if you want to use wayland, i suggest to reconfigure gdm3 and if not working, switch to console , restart from there and then check the logs
[19:21] <xrandr> after doing a lshw -c video, i found that my system is using an nvidia driver. But I did not install one, it must have been installed when i installed the OS
[19:22] <xrandr> configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[19:22] <ioria> xrandr, ok, but Xorg should work
[19:22] <ioria> xrandr, and it's default
[19:23] <xrandr> Yes it is default and it wasn't working
[19:23] <OerHeks> no, standard would be nouveau, not nvidia, so you installed nvidia manually
[19:23] <ioria> xrandr, you can revert to nouveau
[19:23] <ioria> OerHeks, he probably checked 'intsall 3party drivers'
[19:23] <xrandr> I read somewhere on the ubuntu forums that this has happened to others and the solution was to install another display manager.
[19:24] <ioria> xrandr, remove nvidia, reconfgiure gdm and use wayland
[19:24] <xrandr> ok
[19:31] <activist> hi all
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[20:08] <TEOSEOOOO> hola
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[20:12] <dirtycajun> Is there a way to flush an lvm cache without removing and re-adding the cache drive?
[20:12] <lordcirth__> !es | TEOSEOOOO
[20:13] <lordcirth__> dirtycajun, why do you need to flush it?
[20:13] <ceibal> hol
[20:13] <lordcirth__> ceibal, hi
[20:13] <ceibal> como te llamas
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[20:14] <lordcirth__> dirtycajun, I think setting cache policy "cleaner" will force writeback flush
[20:17] <noobelux> hey guys, any ETA for firefox??
[20:18] <OerHeks> noobelux, no time given
[20:21] <noobelux> why takes so long for firefox to gets updated in repo?
[20:21] <xamithan> Ask the package maintainer
[20:22] <OerHeks> i believe it is in proposed, and it landed in Sid just 15 hrs ago
[20:22] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/firefox
[20:22] <noobelux> well, this is quite critical update, firefox disabled all addons
[20:22] <OerHeks> well, i did no tweak, and addons are working again
[20:23] <OerHeks> this is my studies https://imgur.com/a/vsO1pVs i see that H bug-1548973
[20:25] <noobelux> don't work for me at all
[20:25] <noobelux> i don;t know how to take this, as a joke or total iresponsability from mozilla
[20:33] <sysRPL> hello
[20:34] <sysRPL> i created a vm image of a windows installation on ubuntu using gnome boxes. my question is how can i map a folder on my vm inside of ubuntu? i can share the folder on windows, but i cannot connect and map it using mount and cifs
[20:35] <BlckH4t> Ngentod
[20:36] <BlckH4t> xnxx.com
[20:39] <leftyfb> BlckH4t: spamming is offtopic here. Please /part
[20:41] <Nash> I was messing around with tweaks and adding and removing themes and in the process the cursor changed to 2 different cursors, so now when i mouse over the desktop it's one cursor theme, and when i mouseover applications like firefox, discord, or the launcher it's another. anyone know how to shange this?
[20:41] <Nash> i've already tried: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[20:41] <Nash> and gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme
[20:41] <Nash> and gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme
[20:42] <tomreyn> sysRPL: you may need to use a different virtualization software. gnome boxes is meant to keep things simple.
[20:42] <leftyfb> Nash: tried logging out and back in?
[20:42] <Nash> yes multiple times
[20:43] <Nash> i am able to change the cursor theme with sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme but it doesn't change it when i mouseover the desktop
[20:43] <tomreyn> sysRPL: you could setup some kind of file shareing service on the VM, though (nfs, samba, ...) and access this from the other computer via network
[20:44] <Nash> ohh i'm not running a VB
[20:44] <Nash> i'M DUAL BOOTING
[20:44] <Nash> caps
[20:46] <samyb> Guys I need help :/
[20:47] <Nash> i think it has something to do with x server applications
[20:47] <samyb> I installed ubuntu mini.iso with hopes of a TTY only experience. But now it asks for uname login:
[20:47] <samyb> I never was asked to set up a password. Is there a default?
[20:48] <heiliger> xD
[20:50] <tomreyn> samyb: boot to recovery, choose the option to start a shell, press enter, set a password for your existing sudo user 'username' with "passwd username", press ctrl-d
[20:51] <tomreyn> samyb: which ubuntu mini.iso did you install? i'm not entirely sure but am surprised that it would not have asked for a password during installation.
[21:17] <causative> is there a way to switch between terminal windows, that clearly displays which process is running in each window?
[21:17] <causative> or if the process is bash, what the last command run in that window was, or what the current directory is
[21:19] <causative> or perhaps just clearly display the last 50 keystrokes typed in that window
[21:19] <causative> something that effortlessly allows you to locate and switch to the right window
[21:21] <zinno> hi
[21:22] <tomreyn> causative: so mayn questions!  echo $$   tells you the process id of the current shell. the 'ps' command can show all or some of the running processes in different way. other utilities doing so are top, htop (and several others)
[21:22] <jcotton> tmux might do that causative
[21:22] <causative> tomreyn, I mean a graphical interface, like alt-` in gnome
[21:23] <tomreyn> causative: there are process trees. processes started from a shell will (by default) be sub processes of the shell process, and can be indicated as such (with a tree view) with the above commands.
[21:25] <tomreyn> causative: gnome-system-monitor, on the "processes" tab, has a "dependencies" checkbox on the (three horizontal lines) menu which shows subprocesses.
[21:27] <causative> tomreyn, the problem I want to solve is, when I am in a terminal window and press alt-` to go to another terminal window, it's hard to distinguish the windows from each other visually due to the small size of the thumbnails.  I would like some summary information of what each window is doing displayed clearly on each thumbnail.  or use a different graphical system with the same effect
[21:31] <tomreyn> causative: some terminal emulators let you set their window / tab title freely. this discusses a way to achieve this with gnome-terminal (which apparently lost this option): https://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title
[21:31] <tomreyn> there are several other terminal emulators, too.
[21:38] <Paddy_NI> Hello I am having a bit of a problem with my second display (on the left) spilling over by a couple of pixels to my right (primary) display
[21:39] <Paddy_NI> If I align the displays so the secondary is on the right I have no problem seemingly
[21:39] <Paddy_NI> I have had this issue before but for the life of me I cannot remember how I got it resolved
[21:44] <causative> tomreyn, thank you, that's helpful, looks like I just need to get the data I want and use PROMPT_COMMAND to set the title automatically
[21:50] <tomreyn> yes, should work
[22:07] <Paddy_NI> Could anyone please help me with my display issue?
[22:09] <xamithan> I had that issue long ago and just set a custom resolution that matched the display
[22:09] <xamithan> Not sure if it is the same issue you are running into
[22:13] <Patrick_NI> I got disconnected
[22:13] <Patrick_NI> VPN
[22:13] <Patrick_NI> xamithan, Perhaps that would work but which display do I target?
[22:13] <xamithan> The display that is overlapping
[22:14] <Patrick_NI> Okay cool, what is the command?
[22:14] <Patrick_NI> xrandr I presume?
[22:14] <xamithan> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/04/custom-screen-resolution-ubuntu-desktop/
[22:15] <xamithan> xrandr to test it out yeah
[22:15] <xamithan> Before you make it permanent
[22:15] <tds> if you're using gnome and the positioning is off, you can also always edit ~/.config/monitors.xml by hand
[22:15] <Patrick_NI> 17.04....
[22:15] <Patrick_NI> Is this still applicable?
[22:15] <xamithan> Yes it's still gnome
[22:15] <tomreyn> !17.04
[22:15] <Patrick_NI> Fair enough :-)
[22:16] <Patrick_NI> tomreyn, ?
[22:16] <Patrick_NI> Everything alright there mate
[22:16] <xamithan> In my case it was a tv that did 1360 instead of 1366
[22:16] <tomreyn> Patrick_NI: yes?
[22:17] <tomreyn> Patrick_NI: if you run ubuntu 17.04, your system has been without security updates for over a year.
[22:17] <xamithan> tomreyn: They're talking about the guide I linked
[22:17] <Patrick_NI> tomreyn, I don't...
[22:17] <tomreyn> ah sorry, got that wrong
[22:17] <Patrick_NI> tomreyn, A bit quick on the jump there
[22:17] <Patrick_NI> :-)
[22:26] <Paddy_NI> tds, Editing that file does nothing unfortunately. Unless I am doing something wrong
[22:26] <tds> Paddy_NI: keep in mind you'll need to log out and log back in again (or tell gnome to re-read it somehow)
[22:26] <Paddy_NI> tds, I did
[22:26] <tds> ah :(
[22:27] <Paddy_NI> I think xrandr is the answer
[22:27] <Guest70302> I installed the official flatpak ppa which seemed to render my pc unusable as it would freeze after 1-2 minutes. Installed Kubuntu again on another drive but need to mount my old luks encrypted drive to transfer over files; how can this be achieved?
[22:29] <Guest70302> I get: An unspecified error has occurred: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem' on object at path /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/dm_2d3
[22:29] <Paddy_NI> tomaw, Unfortunately that guide is not the answer
[22:30] <Paddy_NI> tomaw, My monitor is outputting the correct mode, adding a new mode just duplicates what is already available and I am still left with the overlap
[22:30] <Paddy_NI> I think if anything the far right side would get cropped off
[22:32] <Guest70302> Feel like you need to be a rocket scientist to work with hard drives on Linux -- about as user friendly as boeing 737 max controls!
[22:34] <blazeme8> What packages provides `less` with the ability to show the contents of .deb packages?
[22:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> my coworker is claiming that unattended-upgrades is changing java alternatives (from 8 to 11) [18.04]
[22:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> is this possible?
[22:36] <Paddy_NI> Guest70302, I guess it depends on your level of need and experience.  I am ready to drop kick my computer over a 2 pixel overlap at present yet I know that it is not a difficult fix
[22:36] <Paddy_NI> Guest70302, Perhaps I will turn to drugs or alcohol...
[22:36] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[22:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> whynothboth.jpg
[22:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/th/t/
[22:41] <Guest70302> Paddy_NI, I've nearly completed my CompSci Degree and I'm not even close to being able to use Linux effectively so what chance has the average computer user? I'm already intoxicated and it hasn't helped, might try the drugs next :P
[22:42] <Guest70302> Someone should make a user friendly distro... that would be game changing
[22:43] <tonyt> there is plenty of user friendly distros out there including ubuntu and many others
[22:44] <xamithan> Guest70302 Just use cryptsetup to decrypt the drive,  and mount it as normal
[22:46] <xamithan> Oh wait it's udisk?  udiskctl then
[22:46] <xamithan> *udisksctl
[22:54] <Guest70302> xamithan, the encrypted partitions wont moutn
[22:54] <Guest70302> mount*
[22:54] <xamithan> Even after you decrypt them ?
[22:54] <xamithan> What's the error message
[22:54] <Guest70302> how do i decrypt them first
[22:54] <xamithan> udisksctl
[22:55] <xamithan> or either cryptsetup
[22:56] <xamithan> Gparted should be able to do it as well if you need a GUI
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[23:02] <Guest70302> xamithan, dont think gparted can mount any hard drives
[23:02] <Guest70302> dont see an option
[23:02] <xamithan> Didn't say it could,  but it can unlock LUKS
[23:08] <Guest70302> xamithan, thanks for the help but I cant access my files and I need to be up for work in 5 hours so I'm going to have to give up tonight. Should probably have stuck with the telescreen that is windows 10
[23:11] <blckhll_> is anyone using a nvidia nvs card here?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> blckhll_: Please ask the real question :)
[23:16] <OerHeks> + what ubuntu version, what nvidia card, what driver
[23:21] <blckhll_> Bashing-om: I am facing some issues with multiple displays. nvidia driver with xinerama enabled my screen goes black after the lightdm login. nvidia driver with xinerama disabled and mosaic enabled works good but unexpectly my system freezes. only nvidia driver with xinerama and mosaic disabled the secondaries monitors shows only a X icon when my mouse goes over them. it's been difficult to find a
[23:21] <blckhll_> solution for this issue.
[23:21] <TEOSEOOOO> holaaa
[23:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> blckhll_: have you tried nouveau?
[23:23] <TEOSEOOOO> holaaaa
[23:23] <TEOSEOOOO> hablo español
[23:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> TEOSEOOOO: ingles por favor
[23:23] <TEOSEOOOO> ok hi
[23:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> there's an #ubuntu-es also but i don't know if it's affiliated with this channel.
[23:24] <Bashing-om> blckhll_: Yuk  - My experience does not extend to multiple displays - await others here with the skills to assist you.
[23:24] <TEOSEOOOO> i dont speak so good in inglish
[23:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> no problemo :P
[23:25] <TEOSEOOOO> ok
[23:25] <TEOSEOOOO> cuantos años tienes yo 11
[23:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> your english is better than our spanish :P
[23:25] <TEOSEOOOO> fuck you
[23:25] <OerHeks> TEOSEOOOO, please stop that, no children on freenode
[23:27] <blckhll_> NoIamNotNineVolt: yep. it works, but the video accelleration doesn't work. it's impossible to watch a even a youtube video
[23:27] <OerHeks> blckhll_, what nvidia card exactly?
[23:28] <blckhll_> nvidia nvs 420
[23:28] <sere_> is ubuntu 18.10 still lts?
[23:29] <dax> 18.10 has never been LTS. 18.04 is
[23:29] <sere_> ahh oh ok. thought maybe 18.10 was still part of 18.04
[23:29] <jcotton> they're different versions
[23:29] <jcotton> it's yy.mm
[23:30] <Ben64> They're as different as a Beaver is different from a Cuttlefish
[23:38] <MarkB2> Just booted the 'puter... and the displays are full of ?speckles?.  I remember once typing ALT-F2 and entering 'r' .. there would be a "restarting" popup.  Speckles gone ... until I move the mouse.. and now they're back.
[23:39] <MarkB2> Speckles seem to be only on the desktop.
[23:40] <MarkB2> Sorry... Ubuntu 18.04 LTS 64-bit, all up to date on patches.
[23:52] <dormouse85> Hello, I am currently running Ubuntu 19.04 and ran into a major issue with tracker and tracker-extract tonight. I was able to eventually "fix" it by setting all tracker services to disabled via .desktop files. I would like to submit a bug report because this was crippling and a very bad user experience. How would I go about doing that?