[10:46] Can we include exfat-fuse and exfat-utils in the next release? I have a Sony audio player but i couldn't use the device and the sd-card at first. After installing exfat-fuse and it's dependency exfat-utils, they auto mounted and i was able to put files on it. Would be great if we have it working ootb. [14:23] M_aD: Good question. I also want to look into including OBS. afaik not even stock Ubuntu carries exfat. [14:27] * Eickmeyer goes asking around. [14:32] since both are in the repos i don't see a issue. Or don't we have the freedom to add/remove what we want? [14:36] * M_aD will be back later [14:41] M_aD: Here's the answer I got, and it appears to be an ongoing discussion. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exfat-utils/+bug/1649537 [14:41] Launchpad bug 1649537 in fuse-exfat (Ubuntu) "[MIR] exfat-utils and fuse-exfat" [Undecided,Won't fix] [14:43] Basically, it's not a good idea for licensing/patent reasons, but that's the part of the discussion that is ongoing. [16:52] Eickmeyer: i just read through it, thanks and understood :) [17:48] OvenWerks: Got that crash, not sure what happened. Controls won't start. Not sure if this is a bug, or what's going on here. [17:48] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3jnjvQRtz4/ [17:52] OvenWerks: Nevermind, looks like I was missing python3-jack-client. Installed, will add to deps. [17:59] Added and pushed. [18:00] OvenWerks: I like the indicator, but in materia it's hard to read as it is grayed-out as if it were a button or something. [18:09] I think that is more text size? [18:10] Perhaps, that might help. [18:11] And, uh, oops, looks like I omitted a comma. [18:12] I'll screenshot it. [18:15] OvenWerks: https://imgur.com/a/7PPdK5P [18:16] The text looks like that when it's running too. [18:18] Ya, the text stays the same. [18:18] * OvenWerks needs to find a LED indicator. [18:21] Eickmeyer: leaving that aside how are other things? [18:21] Other than that, it works great. No issues here. [18:22] Well, once I added the python3-jack-client package, that is. :P [18:22] I need to get some more things done so I can commit my current work and then rebase over master. [18:22] Ok [18:22] I do not know why I didn't have to, I must already be using it elsewhere [18:23] Yeah. Well, nobody else should be running into that. Added as a dep. [18:23] Thank you. [18:23] Hey, that's why I'm here, right? ;) [18:24] Gotta have someone to test [18:24] Yep. I can't code, but I can test and package. [18:24] * OvenWerks is reading the school long range facilities Plan 2018 - 2027 [18:25] lots of "should" and "could" [18:26] Yikes. If that's anything like stuff here in the states, then I can only imagine the thickness of that plan. [18:26] Im on page 36 of 52 [18:27] Here, 52 pages would just be the summary. [18:27] my wife in the mean time is taking an online "wound management" course [18:28] Heh, interesting. [18:28] she is a practicing nurse, this is an upgrade/scope of practice increase. [18:28] Oh, good for her! [18:29] And generally good to know stuff anyway. [18:29] Indeed. [18:29] * OvenWerks gets to see the gory pics as well :P [18:36] one of our schools is running at 179% cap... [18:40] YIKES! That's not good. The new high school that was built in my parents' area, to replace the one I went to, was already at 110% cap when it opened. Failure to forecast is a conastant in government. [18:41] Oh it's not really, there are two schools on the same property and they share classrooms (el and mid) so the overall is under 100% [18:42] The school my son is going to (middle school) went from 7-9 to 6-9 and the local el went from k-6 to k-5 for the same reason. [18:44] The midlle/high schools show lower percentages but I am thinking that they are also including "special use" class rooms like cooking, wood work and metal work in those numbers. [18:45] Those rooms may not be able to have 90% usage and yet still need to be there. [18:46] I guess I should restate then. Failure to forecast is a constant in Washington State's government. [18:47] It is a problem here too. It is also a matter of making the best use of facilities [18:50] whatever happens, all secondary schools are a bus ride away so my yomger son will have to learn bussing the year after next. [18:50] I think we have to pay for it too :P [18:50] Yeah. The schools where I live have free bus service, and even though it's a short drive, I have my son take the bus to school every morning. I get him in the afternoon. [18:51] I find it funny. When I go into #ubuntu-release or #ubuntu-devel, even if there's an active conversation, if I ask for a MOTU to look at lsp-plugins they all scatter. [18:51] :) [18:52] I can see them all looking at each other, putting their fingers on their noses, saying, "Nose goes!" [18:52] A short statement to that effect would be "polite" [18:53] Agreed. [18:53] The room just goes completely quiet and stays like that for hours after I do that. [18:53] "Erich Eickmeyer: Thread Killer" [18:54] so that means yes we know it needs to be done, but none of us wants to take it on. [18:54] Exxxactly. [18:55] It's not even a complicated package. Yet, I think people are in shell shock after Carla, which was a gigantic bit of work. [18:55] I feel like I'm doing pretty good when I package something and lintian has nothing to say about it. [18:57] --pedantic? [18:57] Even pedantic has nothing to say! [18:57] Is it in debian? [18:57] Nope. [18:58] Oh, no MM maintaner there [19:00] It has also been brought to my attention that MuseScore is out of date. Yet, for some reason, I still get MM emails about people doing stuff with MuseScore 2 when 3 has been out for over a year. [19:04] Oh, nm, not over a year. January, as I look at github. [19:07] Eickmeyer: I think a policy of keeping sw that is ahead of debian/ubuntu in our back port PPA even the same day as release might make sense. [19:07] ubuntu has a debian first attitude [19:08] debian is slow... adding the Studio backports as part of install may make sense. [19:08] Yeah. I'm looking at it and Thorsten Glaser is the maintainer for MuseScore, he's active. [19:08] Looks like he has a package for MuseScore 3 in experimental. [19:08] Or adding the add ppa button to -controls as well as installer. [19:09] Let's keep the ppa button in installer since it's the... installer. [19:09] Anyway, I am taking Yf and son out so have to get ready. [19:09] Okay, have fun. o/