| Sati | Hello all. I have xubuntu 18.10 and I received info about possible update to 19 however the window says it's just ubuntu not xubuntu. Is this fine or this would crash my system completely? | 01:07 |
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| Unit193 | That's saying the base system, Ubuntu. The upgrader handles Xubuntu differently, but it doesn't know about the Xubuntu specific release announcements. That's fine to upgrade. | 01:08 |
| Sati | @Unit193 thanks for reply. I am quite new to linux. So just to be sure, after I click upgrade and download I will have 19.04 xubuntu? | 01:09 |
| Unit193 | Unless something goes wrong, yes you should. | 01:10 |
| Sati | Thank you! | 01:10 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| Sati | I've downloaded the 19.04 update for xubuntu from 18, but not yet restarted because the window is asking me now if I want to keep some "no longer needed" packages(200+) and briefly looking there, there are few packages with xfce name(for eg. xfce quick-launcher-plugin) and I wonder what should I do, to keep them or it's really "not needed"? | 02:39 |
| Unit193 | qucklauncher was removed from the archives, so that one is good to go at least. I can't say for certain, but I'd guess most of those packages start with 'lib'? | 02:43 |
| Sati | yes | 02:43 |
| Sati | and there are few(10-20) with x11 description | 02:43 |
| Sati | another example of some xfce files orange, orange-data | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | orage is good to go as well. | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | So, seems fairly harmless. | 02:45 |
| Sati | Ok, thank you @Unit193 once again for clarification | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | Sure thing, happy to help. | 02:46 |
| Sati | then I restart, hoping to see you again soon :) | 02:46 |
| Sati_ | @Unit193 It went without problems, thanks. Only the xubuntu background when system starts, etc. is black instead of blue. | 03:22 |
| Sati_ | xubuntu loading background | 03:23 |
| Unit193 | I believe that's as planned. | 03:26 |
| lisbeths | I love how easily customizable xubuntu is: https://imgur.com/a/dLMIMzr | 06:07 |
| Iolo | lisbeths, you monster. | 06:15 |
| gnrp | haha, nice. Just the widescreen doesn't fit | 06:29 |
| lisbeths | it's barely noticeable | 06:35 |
| lisbeths | I got the start button to work by actually making it part of the wallpaper and I have a second panel that is transparent for the whiskermenu | 06:35 |
| lisbeths | the issue is that when I hover over the button on the second panel it turns blue from the greybird theme | 06:35 |
| lisbeths | so I need to edit the greybird theme so when you hover over that style of button it is translucent | 06:36 |
| lisbeths | I've been considering adding powershell to it too | 06:36 |
| gnrp | how much time did you spend on this? Oo | 06:36 |
| gnrp | also: Can you go full disgusting mode and skin it like Windows 10? Including the ads in the start menu? :P | 06:37 |
| lisbeths | Well I like to take xfce and try to make it look exactly like other operating systems | 06:37 |
| lisbeths | I've made it look like mac osx, elementary os, gnome 3, mate, lxde, cinnamon, and kde | 06:37 |
| lisbeths | And one day I want to write a piece of software that swaps between these instantly to show off how versatile xfce is. So you press a button and boom it looks like mac osx. Press another button and boom it's gnome 3 | 06:38 |
| gnrp | hehe | 06:38 |
| lisbeths | The issue is that mac osx and windows xp are copyrighted | 06:38 |
| gnrp | do you have the screenshots of all that collected somewhere? | 06:38 |
| lisbeths | So as a disclaimer I will leave a warning that says "don't do this to make it look like windows xp. That's illegal | 06:38 |
| lisbeths | No I don't have screenshots but I can show you how to do it | 06:39 |
| lisbeths | It's basically as easy as playing with the panel and changing the buttons and colors | 06:39 |
| lisbeths | and there is this dock called either docky or plank I don't remember which and that can copy like the unity theme or the gnome 3 or mac theme | 06:39 |
| lisbeths | But I've riced out xfce to look 100% exactly like elementary os | 06:40 |
| lisbeths | To me if xfce can look 100% exactly like gnome or kde then why do gnome or kde exist? | 06:41 |
| lisbeths | It's like canonical should make xfce the mainline ubuntu because it does more with less ram | 06:41 |
| gnrp | well, because gnome and kde is more than just the look | 06:41 |
| lisbeths | like wut? | 06:42 |
| gnrp | Even though I don't like to use any of the two, there is a good reason for that | 06:42 |
| gnrp | it is the overall environment. Not only the looks, also the feel. And all the tools surrounding | 06:42 |
| gnrp | xfce is very minimal, you have a small handful of tools | 06:42 |
| lisbeths | I don't think of xfce as minimal I think of it as designed so well that it can be riced out with little effort or ram | 06:43 |
| gnrp | kde and gnome already provide all tools easy users use in their daily lifes (not saying they are good, but they are there) | 06:43 |
| lisbeths | One thing I've realized is it is very trivially easy to make a new virtual desktop and put panels on int with buttons that run arbitrary shell commands | 06:43 |
| lisbeths | so this makes it very easy to make a gui that does stuff | 06:44 |
| gnrp | https://xfce.org/projects vs. https://www.gnome.org/technologies/ vs. https://kde.org/applications/ | 06:44 |
| gnrp | I mean, the KDE applications category alone is already as many projects as xfce has all in all ;) | 06:44 |
| gnrp | sorry, wrong link for gnome, it is this one here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects | 06:46 |
| lisbeths | I just don't see the virtue in kde or gnome. Xfce has been relatively untouched for the last 6+ years and still can do everything all of these other ones can do | 06:46 |
| gnrp | you also should not forget that without gnome, no gtk, and no gtk, no xfce | 06:46 |
| gnrp | by far not. The window manager can maybe, yes (although I doubt that, gnome shell is quite powerful). But the overall project not. | 06:47 |
| gnrp | I mean, xfce has no web browser, no office suite, etc. | 06:47 |
| lisbeths | I don't consider those applications to be part of gnome/kde but merely also produced by those projects | 06:48 |
| gnrp | xfce is a window manager and file manager and all the stuff around (settings management, task bar, etc.) | 06:48 |
| lisbeths | In my mind xfce is the future because it does more with less more easily | 06:48 |
| gnrp | well, they are part of the desktop environment, you cannot neglect that. They provide the overall gnome/KDE look and feel inside the applications, where with xfce, you have quite a mixture | 06:49 |
| gnrp | in my mind the linux desktop is not the future, no matter how I try to turn it around... ;-) | 06:49 |
| lisbeths | I am just a diehard xfce fan I guess. The ultimate mix of versatility and filesize | 06:49 |
| gnrp | I agree with that. Although xfce could also be a bit slimmer tbh | 06:50 |
| gnrp | anyway, time to go to work, cu | 06:50 |
| Tuno | Hi anyone speak spanish? | 12:39 |
| Tuno | I try to explain in english my problem whit xubuntu | 12:39 |
| diogenes_ | !es | Tuno | 12:40 |
| ubottu | Tuno: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 12:40 |
| Tuno | the battery administraitor show me always 100 percent of charge | 12:41 |
| Tuno | it have the driver and give de name and info of the baterry but ever show 100percent | 12:42 |
| Tuno | anyone know what can i do? | 12:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: for a laptop? | 12:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: is your laptop a very recent model? | 12:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: which version of xubuntu are you using? 16.04 18.04 18.04.1 18.04.2? | 12:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: what does 'uname -a' show when you into it into a Terminal Emulator | 12:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | and 'ls -l /sys/class/power_supply' | 12:58 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: ??? | 12:58 |
| Tuno | Netbook Asus eeepc i m using 18.04.2 | 12:58 |
| pmjdebruijn | there are many EEE PC types... but all of fairly old I guess | 12:59 |
| Tuno | 1015pe is the model of asus eee | 13:00 |
| Tuno | 2g Ram 500gb hd micro intel atom | 13:00 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: what do the two command I said show? | 13:02 |
| Tuno | Linux Tuno-1015pe 4.18.0-18 | 13:05 |
| Tuno | generic - 19 18.04.1 ubuntu smp | 13:05 |
| Tuno | fri april 5 2019 i686 | 13:06 |
| pmjdebruijn | try 'cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent', and put that on pastebin | 13:06 |
| pmjdebruijn | and | 13:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | 'dmesg | grep -i battery' | 13:07 |
| Tuno | pastebin? | 13:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | pastebin.com | 13:07 |
| Tuno | this two comand i have put into pastebin.com | 13:08 |
| Tuno | save the file and restar? | 13:09 |
| pmjdebruijn | huh? | 13:09 |
| Tuno | my english isn t very wel | 13:11 |
| pmjdebruijn | execute those commands, and put the result on pastebin.com, then reply the resulting pastebin.com link back here | 13:12 |
| Tuno | i do it in the asus netbook but now it shut down i need find 220v | 13:18 |
| Tuno | the result cant copy to here because i m whit me phone | 13:19 |
| Tuno | in the first command give me the same info that a grafic | 13:20 |
| Tuno | administraitor energy | 13:20 |
| Tuno | ever 100 percent | 13:21 |
| pmjdebruijn | for that to make sense we'd really need a perfect copy-paste | 13:21 |
| Tuno | in a few moments i return whit the info | 13:22 |
| pmjdebruijn | I can't promise a solution of course, but at least we might get an understanding of where the problem lies | 13:23 |
| Tuno | all rigth thank very mucho | 13:25 |
| Tuno | hi i m here again | 14:07 |
| Tuno | POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT0 POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Discharging POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion POWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE_COUNT=0 POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN=14032000 POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=65535000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=1000 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=4300000 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=4200000 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=4200000 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Normal POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=1015PE | 14:07 |
| Tuno | POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=ASUS POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER= [ 1.742828] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present) | 14:08 |
| Tuno | [ 1.742828] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present) | 14:08 |
| Tuno | this is the other comand | 14:09 |
| pmjdebruijn | Tuno: considering that your battery should actually be ful | 14:13 |
| Tuno | but the battery is empty. now it be whit de red light cliping. | 14:16 |
| Tuno | ever show the battery full... show charge or descharge but ever battery ful | 14:17 |
| Tuno | i have win7 in other partition | 14:23 |
| Tuno | in win show the battery correctly | 14:24 |
| pmjdebruijn | I wonder if he had the latest BIOS in his system :( | 14:41 |
| ghosalmartin | i was in here yayday about a black screen booting issue to do with raid | 14:46 |
| ghosalmartin | it was being of secure boot | 14:46 |
| lisbeths | check dis https://imgur.com/a/QkYS7VK check out this | 17:20 |
| Spass | lisbeths, you tried, but that Greybird GTK/Xfwm theme doesn't fit too well, check this out ;) https://www.xfce-look.org/p/1230964/ | 17:58 |
| Spass | (you can use Xfwm theme from that) | 17:58 |
| pmart | why are there so many notification area plugins in xfce-panel? Notification Area, Indicator Plugin, Status Notifier Plugin :) | 18:04 |
| pmart | they all seem to have same purpose | 18:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | presumably for plugin compatbility | 18:05 |
| * pmjdebruijn doesn't know for sure | 18:05 | |
| pmart | which one is the "standard"? :) | 18:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | :D\ | 18:06 |
| brainwash | https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/StatusNotifierItem/ | 18:08 |
| brainwash | the Notification Area is for classic tray icons | 18:09 |
| pmart | in what way classic? | 18:10 |
| brainwash | and Indicator Plugin can show Ubuntu indicators | 18:10 |
| brainwash | classic as in the old way | 18:10 |
| brainwash | something that has worked for many years | 18:10 |
| brainwash | apps like nm-applet can fall back to a classic tray icon | 18:11 |
| pmart | yes but what functionality is missing in the old way? | 18:11 |
| pmart | dropdown perhaps? | 18:12 |
| brainwash | idk | 18:12 |
| brainwash | it's a modern alternative | 18:12 |
| brainwash | it most likely gives the devs more freedom | 18:12 |
| brainwash | you can remove it and see if things still work for you | 18:13 |
| brainwash | same for Indicator Plugin | 18:13 |
| pmart | no I'm currently having all three occupied: gigolo in classic, pidgin in indicators :) | 18:14 |
| brainwash | in recent Xubuntu releases the Indicator Plugin is only used for the messaging indicator I think | 18:14 |
| pmart | so i've booted live xubuntu 19.04 from usb drive and it's great, is there a way to make changes i've made persistent now? | 19:32 |
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| === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube | ||
| xubuntu_ghost | Hello, does anyone know how can I configure my system so the videos on web browsers play properly? Sounds its fine, its just the image that gets stuck. | 20:05 |
| brainwash | xubuntu_ghost: what have you tried so far? | 20:14 |
| brainwash | xubuntu_ghost: also, what hardware is that? | 20:15 |
| xubuntu_ghost | brainwash / I have tried only different browsers. I have an old toshiba satellite amd 240 CPU | 21:02 |
| brainwash | xubuntu_ghost: year? | 21:02 |
| brainwash | quite possible that the CPU is just too weak | 21:03 |
| xubuntu_ghost | 2011 | 21:03 |
| xubuntu_ghost | It is a single core CPU, so it could be. | 21:03 |
| xubuntu_ghost | Downloaded files play just fine | 21:03 |
| brainwash | you could use an external video player for things like youtube or twitch.tv | 21:05 |
| brainwash | vlc or mpv + youtube-dl | 21:05 |
| brainwash | plenty of info on the internet | 21:06 |
| brainwash | xubuntu_ghost: same result when switching to 480p? | 21:07 |
| brainwash | I'd think that low res videos should work fine | 21:08 |
| xubuntu_ghost | They kinda do, I guess its my hardware . Thank alot mate | 21:10 |
| gnrp | hm, how can I disable in the xfce terminal that it makes the text italic instead of marking it with colors? | 22:21 |
| gnrp | I want text to be able to be bold, but not italic. Or just make the remote machine (or is it tmux in between?) not make highlighted text italic | 22:22 |
| xubuntu17i | I install xubuntu and now? | 22:35 |
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