| someball | hi, how can I open an undecorated window from the terminal? | 00:58 |
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| someball_ | Im back, did I miss any answers? | 01:02 |
| wagner | esse Lubuntu 19.04 ta bom d+ | 02:13 |
| wxl | !en | 02:13 |
| ubottu | The main Ubuntu IRC channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 02:13 |
| wagner | I'm sorry | 02:14 |
| wxl | no problem. i'm sorry i can't speak more languages :/ | 02:15 |
| wagner | as I was saying this Lubuntu 19.04 is wonderful! | 02:16 |
| wxl | i'm glad to hear it! in the american k-12 education system, a d+ is considered a very bad grade XD | 02:17 |
| wagner | My English is D + | 02:21 |
| wxl | hahahahah | 02:21 |
| wxl | you're doing better than my.... what's your langauge? | 02:21 |
| wagner | portuguese - Brazil | 02:22 |
| wxl | oh man i would have never guessed | 02:22 |
| wxl | i could see a small similarity to spanish but there were too few words to make anything out of it | 02:22 |
| wxl | you should have said more.. i'm sure i would have bumped into a cedilla eventually :) | 02:23 |
| wagner | kkk | 02:25 |
| wxl | anyways thank you for your kind comments | 02:25 |
| wxl | anything else you'd like to see us change or add in the near future? | 02:25 |
| wagner | If you speak in Spanish, you're already in good size | 02:26 |
| wxl | hehehhe | 02:26 |
| wxl | un poquito | 02:26 |
| wxl | we do have a spanish channel (#lubuntu-es) | 02:26 |
| wagner | I was in lubuntu 18 and I thought it was very ugly but in this new version it was beautiful and faster the team hit the fly this time | 02:28 |
| wxl | i have been a long time user of lubuntu and never really complained too much about tht elooks or the speed, but now that we have the lxqt version, i agree with you!!! :) | 02:29 |
| wagner | it is very perceptible the gain of speed, precisely because I am testing it in slow machines and really it is faster in this version | 02:32 |
| wxl | nice! | 02:32 |
| wagner | but the browser firefox is still slow to see videos from youtube, I installed the chrome and it is better to watch because it does not catch almost anything by the chrome | 02:34 |
| wxl | i find the modern web to be problematic and taxing on any system, honestly | 02:34 |
| wxl | however, i'm sure google has chrome optimized for their services (youtube, gmail, etc.) | 02:35 |
| wxl | have you tried falkon? | 02:35 |
| wagner | I do not know this falkon | 02:37 |
| wxl | !info falkon | 02:38 |
| ubottu | falkon (source: falkon): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2092 kB, installed size 9873 kB | 02:38 |
| wxl | it's a newer application from kde | 02:38 |
| wxl | we originally considered it for 18.10.. it's possible we might re-visit that discussion, but we were thinking that people would want to have a full featured browser. falkon is light and fast, though! | 02:38 |
| wagner | I believe people just like me are looking for a browser that plays the youtube videos well if you do that for sure the rest will work fine | 02:44 |
| wagner | although I am mumbling without much reason because I am testing the Lubuntu on a PC Well Weak AMD C-50 dual core 1200GHZ 2GB DDR3 | 02:47 |
| wagner | I recently added a lot of 6 machines with this configuration and I would like to find a functionality for them, I was thinking of putting together a cluster but I'm not really sure how to proceed | 02:49 |
| wxl | oh a beowulf cluster would be fun | 02:50 |
| wxl | i've never done it though | 02:50 |
| wxl | i'm sure there's some cloud software you could use to pool resources | 02:50 |
| wxl | @teward001 you got any ideas? | 02:50 |
| wxl | i have to take off myself. nice talking to you wagner. please don't hesitate to stick around! | 02:51 |
| wagner | I would like to create a cluster to improve the performance for navigation and common tasks but from what I've been studying on the subject a cluster is more for divided tasks and not so much for one, I do not know if I'm right | 02:54 |
| wagner | I hope to see you again | 02:55 |
| wagner | tks | 02:55 |
| lubot | Ja Tu was added by: Ja Tu | 03:32 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: why are we using ark instead of lxqt-archiver? | 04:27 |
| lynorian | wxl how long has lxqt-archiever been around? | 04:28 |
| wxl | good question and oh i guess we should move this to -devel my bad | 04:28 |
| lynorian | sappheiros: thanks I messed that up somewhat | 04:56 |
| sappheiros | ? | 04:56 |
| sappheiros | what happened? | 04:56 |
| sappheiros | oh | 04:57 |
| sappheiros | the manual ? yw | 04:57 |
| lynorian | well I fixed something in the manual | 04:57 |
| DiscoDynamite | how to change folder icon lubuntu ? | 05:29 |
| DiscoDynamite | i have created a shortcut pointing to a directory in desktop, want to change the folder icon of this | 05:30 |
| wxl | what version? | 05:31 |
| DiscoDynamite | Latest version, 18 LTS | 05:32 |
| DiscoDynamite | https://askubuntu.com/questions/191777/custom-folder-icon-in-lubuntus-pcman-file-manager - tested this , i am unable to make it work | 05:33 |
| wxl | that's not exactly the latest version but ok XD | 05:35 |
| DiscoDynamite | i mean latest in LTS :D. I know normal is version 19, with new sleek interface | 05:37 |
| wxl | so how did you create this shortcut to be clear? | 05:38 |
| DiscoDynamite | wxl, using terminal --> ln -s /path_to_directory/MY_Music ~/Desktop/MY_Music | 05:44 |
| DiscoDynamite | where "MY_Music" is the directory name | 05:45 |
| wxl | doesn't seem to work for shortcut | 05:50 |
| DiscoDynamite | do i have any workaround | 05:51 |
| DiscoDynamite | or any other option | 05:51 |
| wxl | none that i know of | 05:51 |
| DiscoDynamite | Nautilus seems to have option, but i'm very much happy with lubuntu :) | 05:53 |
| wxl | YES there is a solution | 05:54 |
| wxl | use the latest version | 05:54 |
| DiscoDynamite | 19.04 ? | 05:56 |
| wxl | yep | 05:56 |
| diogenes_ | DiscoDynamite, what's the issue? | 05:57 |
| DiscoDynamite | will take lots of time in re-configuring. | 05:57 |
| wxl | diogenes_: setting a custom icon on a soft link on the Desktop in 18.04 | 05:57 |
| DiscoDynamite | also LTS is kind of safe bet fro me. | 05:58 |
| wxl | except that come 2021 you'll never be able to use LXDE in Lubuntu again | 05:58 |
| DiscoDynamite | yup that true | 05:58 |
| wxl | whereas LXQt carries on forever | 05:59 |
| wxl | also, LXDE development has long been virtually non-existence | 05:59 |
| wxl | while LXQt is constantly being developed | 05:59 |
| wxl | so the best long term "safe bet" is LXQt/19.04 | 05:59 |
| DiscoDynamite | absolutely, LXDE is past now | 06:00 |
| DiscoDynamite | now i'm just being little lazy/scared to reconfigure everything after installing the new version | 06:01 |
| wxl | well the writing is on the wall. you're going to be doing it in a couple years at least XD | 06:01 |
| DiscoDynamite | diogenes_, do you have any suggestion in changing the shortcut icon ? | 06:02 |
| krytarik | DiscoDynamite: https://askubuntu.com/questions/221572/create-desktop-file-as-shorcut-to-a-folder-in-lubuntu-lxde/910538#910538 - if you just want to open the folder from the desktop or file browser, this would work. | 06:02 |
| diogenes_ | DiscoDynamite, yeah try that ^ | 06:03 |
| DiscoDynamite | wxl, yes true .. i think i should install that in VM and give it a run before installing in my daily use pc | 06:03 |
| DiscoDynamite | krytarik, thank for the link checking it now. | 06:04 |
| DiscoDynamite | that worked | 06:14 |
| DiscoDynamite | thanks 😊 | 06:14 |
| DiscoDynamite | downloading Lubuntu 19.04 as well , thanks wxl for the suggestion | 06:18 |
| wxl | enjoy :) | 06:19 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: why are we using ark instead of lxqt-archiver?], lxqt-archiver is still in Alpha | 11:38 |
| === neo is now known as Guest76208 | ||
| flyback | how do you tell the wifi app *NEVER* try another wifi ap, I don't care if you are on fire | 15:44 |
| sappheiros | quassel is still opening links in firefox | 16:38 |
| sappheiros | how do i make it falkon? | 16:38 |
| sappheiros | i've already changed HTML file association to falkon | 17:05 |
| sappheiros | don't know what else to do | 17:05 |
| diogenes_ | sappheiros, what about link in terminal and hexchat? | 17:07 |
| sappheiros | diogenes_: i don't understand. | 17:07 |
| wxl | unset BROWSER, most likely | 17:08 |
| sappheiros | 'no manual entry for unset' | 17:08 |
| sappheiros | (i tried 'man unset') | 17:08 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53 | 17:09 |
| wxl | unset is a bash reserved word. if you look at the bash manpage you'd find it. | 17:09 |
| wxl | lxqt-config sets it and it can cause all sorts of problems | 17:09 |
| sappheiros | [Environment] | 17:10 |
| sappheiros | BROWSER=firefox | 17:10 |
| wxl | after that, i'd do `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` | 17:10 |
| wxl | kill it with fire! | 17:10 |
| sappheiros | i can't change it in featherpad after navigating to it with pcman? | 17:10 |
| wxl | you need to do it as soon | 17:11 |
| sappheiros | ? | 17:11 |
| sappheiros | sudo? | 17:11 |
| wxl | also do `xdg-settings set default-url-scheme-handler http org.kde.falkon.desktop` and also for https | 17:11 |
| wxl | root is what i meant but yes same difference | 17:11 |
| * sappheiros gets nervous and thinks maybe opening firefox for quassel links isn't so bad ... ... ... | 17:12 | |
| sappheiros | i'd try to follow instructions on mandriva linux and things would break | 17:12 |
| sappheiros | or ubuntu c. 2008 | 17:12 |
| wxl | oh come on | 17:12 |
| wxl | it's not that scary :) | 17:12 |
| wxl | also remove it from $HOME/.config/lxqt/session.conf | 17:12 |
| === lubuntu is now known as fumbly_bumbly | ||
| fumbly_bumbly | sappheiros: you get it working? cuz i did. :) | 17:26 |
| diogenes_ | Falkon rules! | 17:30 |
| akakaka | Hey can anyone tell me what thus is installing https://imgur.com/a/Vn6HXPZ | 18:31 |
| akakaka | U have live usb with Lubuntu | 18:31 |
| akakaka | when I open the Disk creator | 18:32 |
| akakaka | the Installing pop-ups immediately | 18:32 |
| wxl | akakaka: it's a known bug unfortunately. | 18:40 |
| teward | wxl: is disk creator the defunct thing from an eon ago, or `dus`/`guidus`? | 18:41 |
| akakaka | so it's not installing anything? :) | 18:42 |
| teward | 'cause I could have sworn the older general disk creator was replaced with dus/guidus | 18:42 |
| wxl | no, let me find that bug | 18:42 |
| wxl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715 | 18:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Disco) "usb-creator-kde shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching without any input" [High,Triaged] | 18:45 |
| wxl | it's on my TODO list to get that fixed all the way back to xenial but i keep getting stuff thrown on top of the list :/ | 18:45 |
| akakaka | ok thank you | 18:48 |
| akakaka | was worried its installing os over os | 18:48 |
| akakaka | :-) | 18:48 |
| wxl | hahahha well yeah not that one XD | 18:49 |
| teward | wxl: time to fix this in Eoan :P | 18:49 |
| sappheiros | =away | 18:58 |
| sappheiros | no, i got distracted | 18:58 |
| sappheiros | wxl: you said to execute `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` after something. what am i supposed to do before that? | 18:59 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> it's on my TODO list to get that fixed all the way back to xenial but i ke …], I am ready to do it if you have other more priority tasks. Right now trying to understand the #6 comment there. Let me know if you want me to work on it. | 19:02 |
| sappheiros | yes, xdg-settings get default-web-browser = firefox.desktop | 19:09 |
| sappheiros | how do i unset $BROWSER? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GMGbBZVn5Z/ | 19:17 |
| sappheiros | wxl: ^ | 19:17 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [I am ready to do it if you have other more priority tasks. Right now trying to u …], Wxl ^ | 19:17 |
| teward | i think wxl saw the message :P | 19:17 |
| teward | and will see it when he's less busy :P | 19:17 |
| * sappheiros checks https://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser | 19:17 | |
| sappheiros | should i not ping in this channel? | 19:21 |
| sappheiros | please see also https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Shhs3nm2y2/ | 19:21 |
| sappheiros | i tried update-alternatives | 19:21 |
| * sappheiros checks https://askubuntu.com/questions/490255/no-manual-entry-for-unset | 19:21 | |
| sappheiros | unset $BROWSER returned without any result; see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3qCWzMGK7h/ i tried sudo unset $BROWSER also | 19:24 |
| sappheiros | this is what i mean that linux still seems a "hobbyist OS" -- changing the browser an IRC client launches takes >10 minutes ... | 19:25 |
| sappheiros | just lxqt-config-session and changed firefox to usr/bin/falkon, still quassel opens links in firefox ... | 19:29 |
| sappheiros | ah, sudo lxqt-config-session , erased 'firefox' from default browser, this time when closing it says some things may not take effect 'til next sign in ... | 19:31 |
| sappheiros | augh, still didn't work | 19:33 |
| wxl | sappheiros: not sure insulting the work of others who are trying to help you for free is going to result in actions that meet your expectations | 21:16 |
| wxl | sappheiros: i mean, you're fully welcome to go use an operating system that is without bugs. i mean, there's lots of those, right? | 21:17 |
| sappheiros | o_o did i insult? i'm sorry if i did | 21:18 |
| sappheiros | was it the comment 'hobbyist OS'? I meant that it was an OS that required effort spent on the part of the user, not that there was anything wrong with the hobby | 21:18 |
| wxl | yes, because windows and os x are just flawless | 21:19 |
| wxl | they absolutely have no problems whatsoever | 21:19 |
| sappheiros | what did i say that was an insult? again i'm sorry, i didn't intend to | 21:19 |
| sappheiros | yes, i reported >400 problems with Windows 10 ... | 21:19 |
| wxl | so then it requires extra effort and is a hobbyist OS too, eh? | 21:19 |
| sappheiros | i was actually offended and felt cheated by Microsoft, telling myself i'd never buy another Microsoft product as long as their current CEO was there, that i had been duped into paying to be a beta tester | 21:20 |
| sappheiros | i think if you pay for a product, you shouldn't have to struggle with malfunctions | 21:20 |
| sappheiros | 2/3 of my reports to the windows feedback hub were upvoted by others who had the same problem, too | 21:21 |
| sappheiros | (i used surface pro 4 for my phd work) | 21:21 |
| wxl | and so logically if you DON'T pay for a product, you should have all the more reason to not have problems? | 21:21 |
| sappheiros | no, of course if you don't pay then you should put more effort into it | 21:21 |
| sappheiros | i did not mean 'hobby' as a bad thing | 21:21 |
| sappheiros | i meant like, instead of learning to play guitar, or studying some other topic, it required time spent learning linux/ubuntu | 21:22 |
| sappheiros | i did not mean to say anything offensive :( | 21:22 |
| wxl | look, the fact of the matter is that there's no such thing as perfect quality | 21:23 |
| wxl | not in software, paid or not, not in physical products, nothing | 21:23 |
| wxl | you WILL have problems | 21:23 |
| sappheiros | that's a good point. | 21:23 |
| wxl | the issue we're describing is a problem, which is why it has a bug report, which means we are aware of it and are working to fix it | 21:23 |
| sappheiros | oh. i thought i was just bad at computers. | 21:23 |
| sappheiros | i thought you had given the solution earlier, and i was bad at following it | 21:23 |
| wxl | i gave you a workaround | 21:24 |
| sappheiros | i read 'help unset' and tried various combinations of that command, but couldn't unset $BROWSER like you said | 21:24 |
| wxl | a band-aid over the real wound | 21:24 |
| wxl | does `echo $BROWSER` produce anything? | 21:24 |
| sappheiros | like unset -v $browser, sudo unset $BROWSER | 21:24 |
| sappheiros | yes: firefox | 21:24 |
| sappheiros | i tried to remove it via lxqt-config-session as i recall, didn't work | 21:25 |
| wxl | so just do `unset BROWSER` | 21:25 |
| wxl | no dollar sign | 21:25 |
| wxl | yeah lxqt is where the problem is | 21:25 |
| sappheiros | that returned the prompt with no message | 21:25 |
| wxl | yes, but it unsets it | 21:25 |
| sappheiros | now it's blank | 21:26 |
| sappheiros | i mean, i tried echo $browser again | 21:26 |
| wxl | i'll give you a clue: if you run a command and then do `echo $?` it will return a number that is the exit code. in general if you see a 0, that means it is successful | 21:26 |
| wxl | some commands return no actual output | 21:26 |
| sappheiros | now i'll try xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop | 21:26 |
| wxl | of course that doesn't necessarily apply in this case, but | 21:27 |
| sappheiros | i'm still getting: xdg-settings: $BROWSER is set and can't be changed with xdg-settings | 21:27 |
| wxl | did you remove it from the configuration files? | 21:27 |
| sappheiros | through lxqt-config in terminal? | 21:32 |
| sappheiros | file association (HTML) is already falkon and i don't know what else to do | 21:32 |
| wxl | ok i'm going to spell this out a little clearer | 21:33 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest74797 | ||
| wxl | 1. run in terminal: `sudo nano /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/session.conf` | 21:34 |
| wxl | 2. arrow down to the line with BROWSER on it | 21:34 |
| wxl | 3. hit ctrl-k to cut the line | 21:35 |
| wxl | 4. hit ctrl-x to exit | 21:35 |
| wxl | 5. hit yes when asked to save the buffer | 21:35 |
| wxl | 6. run in terminal: `nano ~/.config/lxqt/session.conf` | 21:35 |
| wxl | 7. if there is a BROWSER line here, repeat steps 2-5, otherwise ctrl-x and no | 21:36 |
| wxl | 8. run in terminal: `unset BROWSER` | 21:36 |
| wxl | 9. run in terminal: `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` | 21:36 |
| wxl | 10. run in terminal: `xdg-settings get default-web-browser` and you should get org.kde.falkon.desktop. this would only fail if you didn't have it installed! | 21:37 |
| wxl | 11. to be really sure run this in terminal: `xdg-open http://lubuntu.me` and falkon will open | 21:37 |
| sappheiros | wxl: thanks for all you do btw | 22:54 |
| sappheiros | wxl: should i create an askubuntu question and post this solution to help future people? | 22:54 |
| wxl | sappheiros: you could if you want. i mean the solution *IS* written into the bug report | 22:55 |
| sappheiros | oh. did you link that earlier and i failed to click and read? | 22:58 |
| wxl | well | 22:59 |
| wxl | yes :) | 22:59 |
| sappheiros | D: | 22:59 |
| sappheiros | :( | 22:59 |
| sappheiros | sry | 22:59 |
| sappheiros | *Sorry about that. | 22:59 |
| wxl | all god | 22:59 |
| wxl | it's in the bug report. see the "bug description" under "workaround" heading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715 | 23:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Disco) "usb-creator-kde shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching without any input" [High,Triaged] | 23:00 |
| wxl | uh oh | 23:00 |
| wxl | hahahha | 23:00 |
| wxl | not that one! | 23:00 |
| sappheiros | do i need to restart or log out and back in? | 23:00 |
| sappheiros | i want to click a link here and see if it fixed it | 23:00 |
| wxl | nope | 23:00 |
| sappheiros | it worked! :D <3 | 23:01 |
| wxl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-session/+bug/1824654 | 23:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1824654 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "using BROWSER environment variable to set default browser creates several problems" [High,Triaged] | 23:02 |
| wxl | that one jeez | 23:02 |
| wxl | supposedly upstream has a fix in the works for this but i haven't seen it yet, so workaround it is until then | 23:03 |
| sappheiros | oh, i did open that and skim through it. didn't see the solution posted | 23:13 |
| sappheiros | oh, i see it now. | 23:14 |
| sappheiros | i didn't know about sudo nano though | 23:14 |
| wxl | i wasn't explicit about that | 23:16 |
| wxl | but know this: anything up the hierarchy from $HOME will require elevated privledges | 23:16 |
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