[00:58] hi, how can I open an undecorated window from the terminal? [01:02] Im back, did I miss any answers? [02:13] esse Lubuntu 19.04 ta bom d+ [02:13] !en [02:13] The main Ubuntu IRC channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [02:14] I'm sorry [02:15] no problem. i'm sorry i can't speak more languages :/ [02:16] as I was saying this Lubuntu 19.04 is wonderful! [02:17] i'm glad to hear it! in the american k-12 education system, a d+ is considered a very bad grade XD [02:21] My English is D + [02:21] hahahahah [02:21] you're doing better than my.... what's your langauge? [02:22] portuguese - Brazil [02:22] oh man i would have never guessed [02:22] i could see a small similarity to spanish but there were too few words to make anything out of it [02:23] you should have said more.. i'm sure i would have bumped into a cedilla eventually :) [02:25] kkk [02:25] anyways thank you for your kind comments [02:25] anything else you'd like to see us change or add in the near future? [02:26] If you speak in Spanish, you're already in good size [02:26] hehehhe [02:26] un poquito [02:26] we do have a spanish channel (#lubuntu-es) [02:28] I was in lubuntu 18 and I thought it was very ugly but in this new version it was beautiful and faster the team hit the fly this time [02:29] i have been a long time user of lubuntu and never really complained too much about tht elooks or the speed, but now that we have the lxqt version, i agree with you!!! :) [02:32] it is very perceptible the gain of speed, precisely because I am testing it in slow machines and really it is faster in this version [02:32] nice! [02:34] but the browser firefox is still slow to see videos from youtube, I installed the chrome and it is better to watch because it does not catch almost anything by the chrome [02:34] i find the modern web to be problematic and taxing on any system, honestly [02:35] however, i'm sure google has chrome optimized for their services (youtube, gmail, etc.) [02:35] have you tried falkon? [02:37] I do not know this falkon [02:38] !info falkon [02:38] falkon (source: falkon): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2092 kB, installed size 9873 kB [02:38] it's a newer application from kde [02:38] we originally considered it for 18.10.. it's possible we might re-visit that discussion, but we were thinking that people would want to have a full featured browser. falkon is light and fast, though! [02:44] I believe people just like me are looking for a browser that plays the youtube videos well if you do that for sure the rest will work fine [02:47] although I am mumbling without much reason because I am testing the Lubuntu on a PC Well Weak AMD C-50 dual core 1200GHZ 2GB DDR3 [02:49] I recently added a lot of 6 machines with this configuration and I would like to find a functionality for them, I was thinking of putting together a cluster but I'm not really sure how to proceed [02:50] oh a beowulf cluster would be fun [02:50] i've never done it though [02:50] i'm sure there's some cloud software you could use to pool resources [02:50] @teward001 you got any ideas? [02:51] i have to take off myself. nice talking to you wagner. please don't hesitate to stick around! [02:54] I would like to create a cluster to improve the performance for navigation and common tasks but from what I've been studying on the subject a cluster is more for divided tasks and not so much for one, I do not know if I'm right [02:55] I hope to see you again [02:55] tks [03:32] Ja Tu was added by: Ja Tu [04:27] @tsimonq2: why are we using ark instead of lxqt-archiver? [04:28] wxl how long has lxqt-archiever been around? [04:28] good question and oh i guess we should move this to -devel my bad [04:56] sappheiros: thanks I messed that up somewhat [04:56] ? [04:56] what happened? [04:57] oh [04:57] the manual ? yw [04:57] well I fixed something in the manual [05:29] how to change folder icon lubuntu ? [05:30] i have created a shortcut pointing to a directory in desktop, want to change the folder icon of this [05:31] what version? [05:32] Latest version, 18 LTS [05:33] https://askubuntu.com/questions/191777/custom-folder-icon-in-lubuntus-pcman-file-manager - tested this , i am unable to make it work [05:35] that's not exactly the latest version but ok XD [05:37] i mean latest in LTS :D. I know normal is version 19, with new sleek interface [05:38] so how did you create this shortcut to be clear? [05:44] wxl, using terminal --> ln -s /path_to_directory/MY_Music ~/Desktop/MY_Music [05:45] where "MY_Music" is the directory name [05:50] doesn't seem to work for shortcut [05:51] do i have any workaround [05:51] or any other option [05:51] none that i know of [05:53] Nautilus seems to have option, but i'm very much happy with lubuntu :) [05:54] YES there is a solution [05:54] use the latest version [05:56] 19.04 ? [05:56] yep [05:57] DiscoDynamite, what's the issue? [05:57] will take lots of time in re-configuring. [05:57] diogenes_: setting a custom icon on a soft link on the Desktop in 18.04 [05:58] also LTS is kind of safe bet fro me. [05:58] except that come 2021 you'll never be able to use LXDE in Lubuntu again [05:58] yup that true [05:59] whereas LXQt carries on forever [05:59] also, LXDE development has long been virtually non-existence [05:59] while LXQt is constantly being developed [05:59] so the best long term "safe bet" is LXQt/19.04 [06:00] absolutely, LXDE is past now [06:01] now i'm just being little lazy/scared to reconfigure everything after installing the new version [06:01] well the writing is on the wall. you're going to be doing it in a couple years at least XD [06:02] diogenes_, do you have any suggestion in changing the shortcut icon ? [06:02] DiscoDynamite: https://askubuntu.com/questions/221572/create-desktop-file-as-shorcut-to-a-folder-in-lubuntu-lxde/910538#910538 - if you just want to open the folder from the desktop or file browser, this would work. [06:03] DiscoDynamite, yeah try that ^ [06:03] wxl, yes true .. i think i should install that in VM and give it a run before installing in my daily use pc [06:04] krytarik, thank for the link checking it now. [06:14] that worked [06:14] thanks 😊 [06:18] downloading Lubuntu 19.04 as well , thanks wxl for the suggestion [06:19] enjoy :) [11:38] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: why are we using ark instead of lxqt-archiver?], lxqt-archiver is still in Alpha === neo is now known as Guest76208 [15:44] how do you tell the wifi app *NEVER* try another wifi ap, I don't care if you are on fire [16:38] quassel is still opening links in firefox [16:38] how do i make it falkon? [17:05] i've already changed HTML file association to falkon [17:05] don't know what else to do [17:07] sappheiros, what about link in terminal and hexchat? [17:07] diogenes_: i don't understand. [17:08] unset BROWSER, most likely [17:08] 'no manual entry for unset' [17:08] (i tried 'man unset') [17:09] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53 [17:09] unset is a bash reserved word. if you look at the bash manpage you'd find it. [17:09] lxqt-config sets it and it can cause all sorts of problems [17:10] [Environment] [17:10] BROWSER=firefox [17:10] after that, i'd do `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` [17:10] kill it with fire! [17:10] i can't change it in featherpad after navigating to it with pcman? [17:11] you need to do it as soon [17:11] ? [17:11] sudo? [17:11] also do `xdg-settings set default-url-scheme-handler http org.kde.falkon.desktop` and also for https [17:11] root is what i meant but yes same difference [17:12] * sappheiros gets nervous and thinks maybe opening firefox for quassel links isn't so bad ... ... ... [17:12] i'd try to follow instructions on mandriva linux and things would break [17:12] or ubuntu c. 2008 [17:12] oh come on [17:12] it's not that scary :) [17:12] also remove it from $HOME/.config/lxqt/session.conf === lubuntu is now known as fumbly_bumbly [17:26] sappheiros: you get it working? cuz i did. :) [17:30] Falkon rules! [18:31] Hey can anyone tell me what thus is installing https://imgur.com/a/Vn6HXPZ [18:31] U have live usb with Lubuntu [18:32] when I open the Disk creator [18:32] the Installing pop-ups immediately [18:40] akakaka: it's a known bug unfortunately. [18:41] wxl: is disk creator the defunct thing from an eon ago, or `dus`/`guidus`? [18:42] so it's not installing anything? :) [18:42] 'cause I could have sworn the older general disk creator was replaced with dus/guidus [18:42] no, let me find that bug [18:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715 [18:45] Launchpad bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Disco) "usb-creator-kde shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching without any input" [High,Triaged] [18:45] it's on my TODO list to get that fixed all the way back to xenial but i keep getting stuff thrown on top of the list :/ [18:48] ok thank you [18:48] was worried its installing os over os [18:48] :-) [18:49] hahahha well yeah not that one XD [18:49] wxl: time to fix this in Eoan :P [18:58] =away [18:58] no, i got distracted [18:59] wxl: you said to execute `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` after something. what am i supposed to do before that? [19:02] @wxl [ it's on my TODO list to get that fixed all the way back to xenial but i ke …], I am ready to do it if you have other more priority tasks. Right now trying to understand the #6 comment there. Let me know if you want me to work on it. [19:09] yes, xdg-settings get default-web-browser = firefox.desktop [19:17] how do i unset $BROWSER? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GMGbBZVn5Z/ [19:17] wxl: ^ [19:17] @The_LoudSpeaker [I am ready to do it if you have other more priority tasks. Right now trying to u …], Wxl ^ [19:17] i think wxl saw the message :P [19:17] and will see it when he's less busy :P [19:17] * sappheiros checks https://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser [19:21] should i not ping in this channel? [19:21] please see also https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Shhs3nm2y2/ [19:21] i tried update-alternatives [19:21] * sappheiros checks https://askubuntu.com/questions/490255/no-manual-entry-for-unset [19:24] unset $BROWSER returned without any result; see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3qCWzMGK7h/ i tried sudo unset $BROWSER also [19:25] this is what i mean that linux still seems a "hobbyist OS" -- changing the browser an IRC client launches takes >10 minutes ... [19:29] just lxqt-config-session and changed firefox to usr/bin/falkon, still quassel opens links in firefox ... [19:31] ah, sudo lxqt-config-session , erased 'firefox' from default browser, this time when closing it says some things may not take effect 'til next sign in ... [19:33] augh, still didn't work [21:16] sappheiros: not sure insulting the work of others who are trying to help you for free is going to result in actions that meet your expectations [21:17] sappheiros: i mean, you're fully welcome to go use an operating system that is without bugs. i mean, there's lots of those, right? [21:18] o_o did i insult? i'm sorry if i did [21:18] was it the comment 'hobbyist OS'? I meant that it was an OS that required effort spent on the part of the user, not that there was anything wrong with the hobby [21:19] yes, because windows and os x are just flawless [21:19] they absolutely have no problems whatsoever [21:19] what did i say that was an insult? again i'm sorry, i didn't intend to [21:19] yes, i reported >400 problems with Windows 10 ... [21:19] so then it requires extra effort and is a hobbyist OS too, eh? [21:20] i was actually offended and felt cheated by Microsoft, telling myself i'd never buy another Microsoft product as long as their current CEO was there, that i had been duped into paying to be a beta tester [21:20] i think if you pay for a product, you shouldn't have to struggle with malfunctions [21:21] 2/3 of my reports to the windows feedback hub were upvoted by others who had the same problem, too [21:21] (i used surface pro 4 for my phd work) [21:21] and so logically if you DON'T pay for a product, you should have all the more reason to not have problems? [21:21] no, of course if you don't pay then you should put more effort into it [21:21] i did not mean 'hobby' as a bad thing [21:22] i meant like, instead of learning to play guitar, or studying some other topic, it required time spent learning linux/ubuntu [21:22] i did not mean to say anything offensive :( [21:23] look, the fact of the matter is that there's no such thing as perfect quality [21:23] not in software, paid or not, not in physical products, nothing [21:23] you WILL have problems [21:23] that's a good point. [21:23] the issue we're describing is a problem, which is why it has a bug report, which means we are aware of it and are working to fix it [21:23] oh. i thought i was just bad at computers. [21:23] i thought you had given the solution earlier, and i was bad at following it [21:24] i gave you a workaround [21:24] i read 'help unset' and tried various combinations of that command, but couldn't unset $BROWSER like you said [21:24] a band-aid over the real wound [21:24] does `echo $BROWSER` produce anything? [21:24] like unset -v $browser, sudo unset $BROWSER [21:24] yes: firefox [21:25] i tried to remove it via lxqt-config-session as i recall, didn't work [21:25] so just do `unset BROWSER` [21:25] no dollar sign [21:25] yeah lxqt is where the problem is [21:25] that returned the prompt with no message [21:25] yes, but it unsets it [21:26] now it's blank [21:26] i mean, i tried echo $browser again [21:26] i'll give you a clue: if you run a command and then do `echo $?` it will return a number that is the exit code. in general if you see a 0, that means it is successful [21:26] some commands return no actual output [21:26] now i'll try xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop [21:27] of course that doesn't necessarily apply in this case, but [21:27] i'm still getting: xdg-settings: $BROWSER is set and can't be changed with xdg-settings [21:27] did you remove it from the configuration files? [21:32] through lxqt-config in terminal? [21:32] file association (HTML) is already falkon and i don't know what else to do [21:33] ok i'm going to spell this out a little clearer === lubuntu is now known as Guest74797 [21:34] 1. run in terminal: `sudo nano /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/session.conf` [21:34] 2. arrow down to the line with BROWSER on it [21:35] 3. hit ctrl-k to cut the line [21:35] 4. hit ctrl-x to exit [21:35] 5. hit yes when asked to save the buffer [21:35] 6. run in terminal: `nano ~/.config/lxqt/session.conf` [21:36] 7. if there is a BROWSER line here, repeat steps 2-5, otherwise ctrl-x and no [21:36] 8. run in terminal: `unset BROWSER` [21:36] 9. run in terminal: `xdg-settings set default-web-browser org.kde.falkon.desktop` [21:37] 10. run in terminal: `xdg-settings get default-web-browser` and you should get org.kde.falkon.desktop. this would only fail if you didn't have it installed! [21:37] 11. to be really sure run this in terminal: `xdg-open http://lubuntu.me` and falkon will open [22:54] wxl: thanks for all you do btw [22:54] wxl: should i create an askubuntu question and post this solution to help future people? [22:55] sappheiros: you could if you want. i mean the solution *IS* written into the bug report [22:58] oh. did you link that earlier and i failed to click and read? [22:59] well [22:59] yes :) [22:59] D: [22:59] :( [22:59] sry [22:59] *Sorry about that. [22:59] all god [23:00] it's in the bug report. see the "bug description" under "workaround" heading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715 [23:00] Launchpad bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Disco) "usb-creator-kde shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching without any input" [High,Triaged] [23:00] uh oh [23:00] hahahha [23:00] not that one! [23:00] do i need to restart or log out and back in? [23:00] i want to click a link here and see if it fixed it [23:00] nope [23:01] it worked! :D <3 [23:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-session/+bug/1824654 [23:02] Launchpad bug 1824654 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "using BROWSER environment variable to set default browser creates several problems" [High,Triaged] [23:02] that one jeez [23:03] supposedly upstream has a fix in the works for this but i haven't seen it yet, so workaround it is until then [23:13] oh, i did open that and skim through it. didn't see the solution posted [23:14] oh, i see it now. [23:14] i didn't know about sudo nano though [23:16] i wasn't explicit about that [23:16] but know this: anything up the hierarchy from $HOME will require elevated privledges