=== The_Milkman1 is now known as The_Milkman === icee_ is now known as icee [00:19] So, I installed 19.04. Now my touchscreen doesn't work as a mouse, but it can be used to pull up the onscreen keyboard. Is there a way to get the mouse functionality back? [00:19] I -hated- it being a mouse before, but ... there's some things I do where it's nice (mostly reading practice with my kids at starfall.com) :P [00:21] (the dock takes screen-touch, too, and some other things) [00:27] any chance there's someone who maintains systemd here? I'm hoping to get some love for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1825378 -- 19.04 ships with a systemd that can't setup wireguard connections, broken by a backport ("rename and split set_wireguard_interface()"), fixed in https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/11580, doesn't seem to have anyone looking at it though. [00:27] Launchpad bug 1825378 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-networkd doesn't set wireguard peer endpoint" [Undecided,New] [00:27] can be worked around by force-downgrading to systemd_240-6ubuntu4 from systemd_240-6ubuntu5, but that's... not a great solution. [00:27] and as an added bonus, it fails silently, the vpn connections just don't work. [00:28] so what is the best file system im thinking btrfs or ext4 === pavlos_ is now known as pavlos === none16543 is now known as beaver [00:34] what's the recommended way to run guest operating systems, e.g. Windows? [00:38] Hey, in 19.04, how do you select the desktop environment on the login screen? [00:40] lunaticedit: See if there is not a gear icon in the password box - dropdown . [00:40] there isn't :-/ I installed i3, not sure if there's any config stuff I need to manually do [00:41] lunaticedit: Sorry ^^ was my only thought. [00:41] I may go back to 18.04 anyway, it's hard to even get into graphical mode in 19.04 [00:41] i have to nomodeset and jump around console buffers to get it to come up === HappyCornDog is now known as HappyHotDog [00:49] hello, I am getting into this weird state : [00:49] root@69f5e2700d08:/usr/share/doc# ls libcups2-dev/ -alh ls: cannot access 'libcups2-dev/changelog.Debian.gz': No such file or directory ls: cannot access 'libcups2-dev/copyright': No such file or directory total 4.0K drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 May 7 00:05 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.0K May 7 00:41 .. ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? changelog.Debian.gz ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? copyright [00:49] even though i've execute bit set on the directory, the files inside that directory cannot be listed/removed [00:52] how can I fix that? [00:56] Hola a todos... [01:05] #php === captain_fixerpc1 is now known as CaptainFixerpc14 [01:47] Whats the purpose of cryptsetup-initframs? [01:54] juanonymous https://packages.debian.org/sid/cryptsetup-initramfs === m5w_ is now known as m5w [02:04] what's a good way to run virtual machines on Linux? is vmware on Linux a good choice? otherwise, it looks like KVM is the way to go. any useful tips? [02:05] https://www.virtualbox.org is free [02:06] blogten, try xen [02:06] or virtualbox [02:11] I'm usually both a Debian and KDE kinda guy, but recently bought a Samsung Tab 5 [02:11] I got Linux on DeX working, very cool might I add. [02:12] hey guys where can i see supported plasma mobile devices? [02:12] anyways, how does one install and enable the gnome onscreen keyboard? [02:13] cant find gok through an apt-cache search [02:13] kveroneau: simply swipe up from bottom. [02:14] DeX on screen ksyboard lacks tab, which makes the terminal almost useless to me. cant live without tab completion [02:14] kveroneau: Try onboard. [02:15] Eickmeyer: thats where the android on screen is, which Im currently using. onkeyboard part of Ubuntu or android side? [02:15] kveroneau: Ubuntu. [02:16] thanks ill search for it now === Goblin is now known as Guest99056 [02:16] kveroneau: That said, I'm not entirely sure what you're doing is supported here. [02:16] activist: Did you try asking in #kde ? [02:18] it is supported by connocial: https://www.linuxondex.com/ [02:19] Samsung and connocical are working together to bring ubuntu to their phones and tablets. [02:19] kveroneau: We're volunteers in here. Please seek support from Samsung. [02:19] "Ubuntu 16.04 provided by Samsung Linux on DeX beta is a modified version of original Ubuntu image." [02:20] The key is "modified version." [02:20] Therefore, no, it is not supported here. [02:31] Eickmeyer: onkeyboard doesnt appear to be in the aarch64 repos, cant apt-get it, and command-not-found doesnt register it. [02:31] kveroneau: Not onkeyboard. onboard. [02:32] "sudo apt-get install onboard" [02:33] it was preinstalled, just wasnt sure what onboard was in the menu. [02:35] using it now, but I cannot type fast, as I need to wait for the last key to display or pressing the next key will prrss the previoos key. [02:35] I puposely didnt correct those last words as e [02:36] an example. this reminds me why I prefer phyical keyboard haha [02:36] once I pick up the official keyboard, this tab will then essent [02:37] essentially be a nice portable linux machine. :) [02:37] thank you for your help Eickmeyer. [02:40] kveroneau: Glad to help. :) === transfusion2 is now known as transfusion [03:52] Why the output of modinfo is differing between 18.08 and 19.09: https://paste.centos.org/view/242ef5f7 [03:53] Something corrupted with my 18.04 install? [03:53] s/18.08/18.04/ [03:59] raub: well, it is another kernel, is it not? [04:52] has anyone played around with uvc? [04:53] i.e. tried to hack around in the source code? === yash is now known as Guest88747 [05:03] hi, i tried to do an automatic upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04, it said that there were errors during the upgrade and my system might be in an unusable state [05:03] i'm trying to figure out how to proceed, one thing that is wierd is that `/etc/release` is missing [05:07] Hello I’m having a silly problem. Need to run “curl -L https://install.pivpn.io | bash” in terminal but the symbol “|” wont type everytyme I press it it types “# or ~” anyone kind enough to explain it to this newbie? [05:07] iceiceice: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/amd64/base-files/filelist - it has got a lot variants, but that one ain't among them! :P [05:08] qwebirc44914: does it do that anywhere else? [05:09] qwebirc44914: you really should download and inspect the script before you pass it to bash [05:09] I’m not using gui . Terminal is the only thing I have on my screen [05:09] @krytarik: I got the "triggers looping; abandoned" message described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1825425 [05:09] Launchpad bug 1823004 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1825425 Upgrade to 19.04 - cannot install 'install-info' (triggers looping)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [05:09] i'm thinking about doing what #11 talks about [05:09] krytarik:^ [05:10] iceiceice: honestly all i ever hear is horror stories when trying to upgrade between majors. i know it should work, but you may be better off reinstalling. [05:10] ok thx [05:11] @ryuo I’m not using gui so the only thing available for me is the terminal. [05:11] qwebirc44914: virtual console? [05:12] Its actually a raspberry pi [05:12] so you're connected to it how? [05:12] serial console? [05:12] KVM? [05:12] Not sure what you are asking. [05:12] krytarik: I guess I was thinking of `/etc/issue` not `/etc/release`, derp [05:13] qwebirc44914: how are you connected to the terminal? [05:13] thx everyone [05:14] Ryuo: Installed the lite version of raspbian (basted on debian) [05:15] Ryuo: the operating system is just terminal no gui [05:15] So no X? [05:15] You're in a virtual console then. [05:15] If it's not SSH. [05:15] or serial console. [05:15] Virtual console [05:16] One thing i'd try is seeing if the issue persists over SSH. [05:16] Ryuo: how do I do that. [05:16] ? [05:16] ... nevermind it would take too long to setup. [05:16] qwebirc44914: This ain't Raspbian support though, it's #raspbian [05:17] but i've never heard of a terminal feature that does what you describe. [05:17] it sounds like a key mapping issue. [05:18] if so all i can suggest is making sure the console keymap matches your keyboard [05:18] you can try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [05:23] Is there any way to get on screen keyboard on virtual console? [05:23] No. [05:38] after apt dist-upgrade (lubuntu 16.04) after plymoth i get black screen i can login to tty and every ~15 seconds screen turns off, have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get screen back, dont know where to start trouble shooting this [05:40] hi guys [06:07] in software & updates I have set "automatically check for updates" to "never", yet I get popups from ubuntu that there are new updates available... wtf!? [06:08] Apachez: there's a difference between updates & security updates [06:08] so where do I tell it to stop phoning home? [06:09] I want to decide WHEN its supposed to check for updates no matter if they are security related or not [06:09] Apachez: why do you want to stop updates comming in? [06:09] because I want to decide WHEN its supposed to check for updates no matter if they are security related or not [06:09] and when I set it to "Never" I expect it to fulfill my wishes [06:09] ubuntu turns more and more into a phone homing pile of **** as microsoft windows have [06:10] Apachez: this is not the complaints channel, focus on ubuntu issues only here [06:10] feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-discuss [06:12] so noone knows how to truly disable checking for updates [06:12] because obviously setting "automatically check for updates" to "never" didnt do shit [06:12] Apachez: remove unattended-upgrades perhaps? [06:12] Apachez: and please mind your language in the ubuntu support channel [06:13] when booting i can only get into tty, status of lightdm is Failed to start Light Display Manager, how do i trouble shoot this? [06:14] sruli: when you boot, press F1 to switch to text based boot, then check whats going wrong where [06:14] lotuspsychje: mind stop being a jerk? [06:14] ryuo: thanks [06:15] Apachez: if you follow the guidelines, there would be no reason to tell you [06:15] Apachez: afaik, automatic updates just do an apt update pass. not sure why it bothers you so much. that's something you need to do for proper maintenance regardless. [06:15] lotuspsychje: F1 does nothing [06:16] sruli: at wich point are you pressing? [06:16] after plymoth, i should before? [06:16] sruli: yes, after grub and before login [06:18] ryuo: they are nagging me with a popup telling me that setting "automatically check for updates" to "never" didnt do shit [06:18] because IF that setting had an effect then the ubuntu installation wouldnt suggest which packages to update out of the blue [06:19] ryuo: but unattended-upgrades removed, lets see if those popups resurface again [06:19] Apachez: i see. i primarily use LM. there's no popup for update announcements. it just displays an icon in the notification area to say that there's some available. [06:19] lotuspsychje: if you learned from lets say ryuo people wouldnt think you are an ass [06:19] lotuspsychje: i just see list of services all started ok, i dont see lightdm in the list, dont know how do scroll up here [06:19] sruli: is it stuck somewhere? [06:19] ryuo: thanks again [06:20] lotuspsychje: no [06:20] sruli: so at wich point are you? [06:20] lotuspsychje: tty login [06:20] sruli: wich ubuntu release are you on? [06:20] Apachez: Well, either the package cache already contained information on available updates when you toggled that setting, or you updated the cache manually afterwards and it does now. [06:20] lotuspsychje: lubuntu 16.04.6 [06:21] krytarik: nope, I ran it last evening manually and then cleaned stuff afterwards (apt-get autoclean and clean) [06:21] sruli: lubuntu 16.04 is end of life [06:21] and then this morning there is a popup in the dock that there are new updates available [06:22] which again is funny since the setting for checking for new updates in software&updates is set to "never" [06:22] sruli: its reccomended you install lubuntu 18.04 [06:22] lotuspsychje: 16.04 end of life is in 2024! on this machine i am not yet ready to upgrade as it will break too many things [06:23] sruli: 16.04 ubuntu desktop is till 2024 [06:23] 2021 actually [06:24] sruli: its reccomended you follow the eol time of your ubuntu flavour, so before its going end of life, you can upgrade and avoid broken situations like now [06:25] there is no way i can upgrade now, i need time to change many scripts for 18.04 [06:25] sruli: we cannot support eol versions, i hope you understand that [06:26] !eol | sruli [06:26] sruli: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [06:26] i understand, i wasnt aware that lubuntu has shorter eol than regular ubuntu :-( [06:26] isn't desktop Ubuntu the same there? [06:27] sruli: indeed. it's a confusing soup. most desktop flavors only get 3 years of full support. [06:30] on apt-update (and now i tried do-release-upgrade), in the output i get "Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)" [06:31] how do i scroll up in tty? [06:35] shift+page up [06:36] trying to do realease-upgrade from tty, it aborts but cant find the reason, cant scroll up high enough === loke98 is now known as vaydheesh [06:55] sruli: make a backup of your data, and try an eol upgrade or a clean install 18.04 [07:00] An EOL upgrade isn't necessary and won't work either because the 16.04 repos are still in the usual places due to main Ubuntu still being supported. [07:01] krytarik: so the end of life flavours can just lts upgrade correct? [07:01] Yeah. [07:01] ah nice tnx === Guest49632 is now known as dabrain34 === dabrain34 is now known as Guest8485 === dabrain34_ is now known as dabrain34 === dabrain34 is now known as _dabrain34 === _dabrain34 is now known as dabrain34 [07:44] hwy [07:44] or hey. anyone got ideas for a samba/nas server. should i use software raid or go with hardware? [07:47] software [07:47] if the hardware controller craps itself you need to source an identical one [07:47] software you just stuff the disks in a new computer and keep going [07:56] righg [07:56] right* [07:56] does ubuntu have software raid option when installing it? [07:56] !raid | heller_ start here [07:56] heller_ start here: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [07:57] does the gui installer support setting up raid these days? [07:58] heller_: small suggestion, before you jump in with both feet play around making raid devices on some files first, mdadm is fine with just turning a few files into a raid array [07:58] then you can break the array and add new disks and the like to it without issue [07:59] if it's for samba you might look at zfs as your file system as well, it's the new hotness [07:59] (you don't use mdraid with zfs, zfs does it's own raid) [08:00] you get easy snapshots and such like then and you can integrate them with the volume shadow copy I believe (at least freenas does so I presume it's available in ubuntu) [08:12] heller_: if you want the RAID setup during installation, you should use the "alternative server installer ('debian-installer')". "mini.iso" may also work (can't promise). [08:12] the desktop installer doesn't support it, i think [08:14] Hello [08:15] I increased the HD capacity of a virtual ubuntu server, the thing is, it doesn't show up in the linux partitions [08:15] I'm trying to increase it but all I can find refers to delete partition, recreate partition, that would make it lose all the information in that partition, right? [08:21] fefa2k: after resizing a virtual storage, you next step should be to increase or move one or more partitions, and then reisze whichever other layers are on top of this (in the easiest setting: file sytems) [08:22] mmm, I finally did it with parted, now the second partition shows up with the whole disk size [08:23] but on df -h it still shows with it's original size, I tried rebooting the machine but it's still the same [08:24] fefa2k: post fdisk -l, lsblk [08:24] !pastebinit [08:24] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [08:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r2WjvWBfK5/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sxNDRVs34C/ [08:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YVWDb4W8bP/ -> df -h -> that shows only 79G in /dev/sda2 [08:26] maybe I'm reading it wrong? [08:30] fefa2k: after increasing the partition size you need to resize the file system to match [08:30] resize2fs /dev/sda2 did the trick! [08:30] like that ;-) [08:30] ^^ [08:31] I thought I messed something up! [08:31] thank you guys, I should probably use LVM to avoid doing this, right? [08:32] it would maker things easier on your next installation, yes [08:32] moving things around and resizing that is. generally, lvm2 obviously adds extra complexity. but it's a well tested tool for this use case. [08:33] perfectnice, thanks again [08:39] I'm not a fan of the added complexity of lvm tbh [08:40] I mean it has its uses but I use it so infrequently and most setups are pretty simple that it's easier to do without for me [08:41] straight up increasing the disk size on an ubuntu VM there would be no functional difference between using lvm and raw partitions that I can think of? [08:42] need to reboot to apply updated partition table [08:42] It is usefull in the physical world, when you run out of disk space and want a minimum offline time you can add more disks and expand the volume onto them or steal part of the end of a disk for an earlier partition etc [08:43] fdisk tells the kernel to re-read the partition table by default [08:43] on my environment a small downtime is no issue, but maybe it's useful on a higher demanding service [08:44] lvm is probably a good thing to learn if you want to learn things ;-) [08:44] it can do snapshots and all sorts of nice things [08:45] but these days you might look at zfs for those sorts of jobs [08:45] i just got 18.04, installed wireshark and i'm getting strange errors even before starting a capture. basically it rejects all my filters with "unknown data link type -1" when using the "any" interface. [08:46] logical volumes can be moved around at will within the volume group and across (lvm) physical devices. if you have multiple partitions, you may not have this freedom. [08:46] i dont get that kind of error as root, so i guess i'm missing a group or something? [08:47] on my old machine (14.04) i had the "wireshark" group, but that doesn't exist on the new machine [08:48] oh nm, the group needs to be enabled using "dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common" first [08:49] I have a batch file that runs an rsync job. The rsync command works fine if I run it from a terminal, but when I put it in a .sh file, it fails with: Failed to execute a child process. WTF? [08:50] venik212 what's a batch file? [08:51] a batch file is a BASH or SH file, which runs some commands [08:51] hi, is there an ETA on when the Firefox package will get updated on Ubuntu so I can use my extensions again? [08:51] * on Ubuntu 16.04 [08:51] ah, i usually call those shell script, to distinguish them from, you know, actual batch files :) [08:51] venik212: it's called a script in linux i think, windows uses batch or .bat [08:51] pastebin your shell script [08:52] OK-- regardless of the name, the problem is the same [08:52] What's in a name? [08:52] pastebin your shell script [08:52] venik212 i was also trying to make sure you're not on windows or something [08:54] It is VERY short, and runs correctly on another computer with the same OS (Linux-mint-xcfe). How do I paste into the pastebiin? I am new here [08:54] !pastebin [08:54] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:54] !mint | venik212 [08:54] venik212: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [08:54] no, Tommy-- I am not on Windows [08:54] venik212: cat /path/to/script | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:55] ducasse: he's using it on ubuntu, he was saying on a mint pc it's running fine [08:55] he said it's the same os [08:55] I thought that mint WAS an official distro of Ubuntu-- was I wrong (again)? [08:55] EriC^^: "with the same OS (Linux-mint-xcfe)." [08:55] that implies the pc he's asking for is also uses mint [08:56] venik212: mint is not ubuntu, no [08:56] i figured he meant they're both 'ubuntu' based not literal, venik212 is it on ubuntu or mint? [08:56] venik212 mint is based on ubuntu, but not supported here. much like ubuntu isnt supported in #debian even though it's based on debian [08:56] I have two laptops, both running the latest mint-xcfe. On the Yoga 2 pro it runs fine, but on the Yoga 11s it fails. [08:57] but still, let's see your script, chances are it's obvious anyway [08:57] #!/bin/sh # Incremental backup from /home/udi to the SD-128GB card cd /home/udi #xfce4-terminal echo 'Backing up your files!' rsync -avzX --exclude-from /home/udi/'exclude-rsync.txt' /home/udi /media/udi/SD-128gb/daily-backups/ [08:57] !pastebin [08:57] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:57] !pastebin [08:57] #!/bin/sh # Incremental backup from /home/udi to the SD-128GB card cd /home/udi #xfce4-terminal echo 'Backing up your files!' rsync -avzX --exclude-from /home/udi/'exclude-rsync.txt' /home/udi /media/udi/SD-128gb/daily-backups/ [08:58] dude how about you read the message the bot gave you [08:58] not sure if it pasted it where it was supposed to [08:58] and do what it says in there [08:59] when all else fails, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. Now I had, and the url is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bNkPPnYnQ3/ [09:00] ok that looks a bit odd, but it shouldn't fail [09:00] how are you invoking it? [09:01] Either by clicking on it, or by typing into the terminal: sh rsync...sh [09:02] yeah, don't do that [09:02] I agree, Tommy, it shouldnn't fail, and it doesn't on the Yoga 2 pro [09:02] whoknowswhat happens if you doubleclick it [09:02] and by using "sh ..." you're essentially overriding line 1 [09:02] invoke it using "./rsync.sh" [09:03] that is how you execute executables in Linux [09:03] i'd check permissions [09:03] yes, it is [09:03] so go and do it [09:04] ./rsync etc produces the same result. I came here after all these failed [09:04] venik212: try the script with sudo once to see if that's the problem [09:04] bad idea [09:04] or paste the exact verbatim error you're getting fully [09:04] that might screw up his perms [09:04] I did a chmod 755 [09:04] that should do [09:04] venik212: what's the exact error you're getting? [09:05] I try to avoid sudo for the reason Tomy mentioned [09:05] hold on a sec. [09:07] btw i have an odd issue with xdg-open on 18.04. for some reason it seems to follow redirects before sending the url to the browser [09:07] which is a bit crappy if you have urls that require a login [09:09] hnnnng, "Open http and https URLs [x] in an application based on the contents of the URL" [09:09] of course that won't work. who made that the default? [09:10] OK-- after some recent updates, I now get the error if I click on the file, but I can run it by typing sh rsync..sh OTOH, if I type ./rsync..sh I get a wierd new error: wrong interpreter.. [09:11] but at least I now have ONE way of running it. Tomy-- what looked weird to you? [09:11] using windows line endings, perhaps? [09:11] venik212: i think if you paste the script in a pastebin you'd show more [09:11] likely your shebang line has a problem [09:11] he did [09:11] I did paste it: the url is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bNkPPnYnQ3/ [09:11] the shebang looks ok [09:11] but we wont see line endings there [09:12] venik212 try "dos2unix rsync.sh" [09:12] just cat it to termbin [09:12] How did dos get into this? [09:12] just do it, venik212 [09:13] see if "./rsync.sh" works after that [09:13] hexdump -C /path/to/script | head -1 [09:14] also that [09:14] dos2unix.sh: command not found [09:14] wat [09:15] no one told you to write "dos2unix.sh" [09:15] Windows was nnever near this sh file [09:15] venik212: i think you should take this to mint support, there's a limit to how much time we should spend on it [09:15] doesn't matter [09:15] oh-- sorry. Hold on [09:15] virtually all linux editors can read and write text files with windows line endings [09:16] AppAraat enabling studies worked for me [09:17] i did have to wait for a while, though [09:17] this was on 18.04 [09:17] I guess I never installed dos2unix [09:17] venik212 dont bother with that. try the command eric gave you [09:17] that file should have no Windows contamination in it [09:17] hexdump -C /path/to/script | head -1 [09:18] move on guys, did you miss what ducasse just said? [09:18] this is likely as much an ubuntu as a mint problem [09:19] TomyWork: it isnt, script issues are not related to ubuntu issues specially if its on mint [09:19] doesn't matter, we do have a policy [09:19] TomyWork: there is the mint channel or ##linux or ##programming [09:19] Hi guys, any cn help me, how to install WhatsApp Web in Ubuntu? [09:19] sorry guys-- I'll go ask for help in Mint. Thanks for helpiing [09:20] !rootirc | zette [09:20] zette: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [09:21] ubottu: how u know I'm as root? [09:21] zette: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [09:21] hi i was wondering if i could get help with something. i have a partition i use for storage between ubuntu and windows and i can read and write to it on windows but i cant write to it anymore on ubuntu. im not entirely sure how to fix this. [09:22] zette i think you're doing linux wrong. first of all you're on a desktop as root (bad idea, desktop applications are not that hardened) [09:22] and then you want to use whatsapp :) [09:22] TomyWork: I'm aware of the FF studies method, but doesn't that involve sending unique info about your browser to Mozilla? If so I'd rather not do that. [09:22] AppAraat your choice [09:24] friendlyGoat: paste any errors etc in a pastebin [09:24] did you mount the partition successfully? [09:24] hello guys. which packages do you exclude for production updates & [09:25] s/&/? [09:25] linux-image* ? [09:25] alocer: are you on ubuntu-server? [09:25] lotuspsychje: i am . [09:25] come join at #ubuntu-server please alocer [09:25] ok thanks [09:27] how do i check for errors? i have it automount via Gnome Disks [09:27] actually now that i think of it this didnt start until i got Gnome Disks working [09:28] AppAraat https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d5BpBPh6f3/ [09:28] this is a base64 of the experiment xpi i got [09:30] i found it next to the other xpis in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/extensions [09:31] thanks, I'll consider that, though there appears also to be a standalone version of FF that updates itself, so I might go with that. [09:33] AppAraat: that might use the normandy method - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1827717 [09:33] Launchpad bug 1827717 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Normandy remote control should be disabled by default" [Undecided,Opinion] [09:33] AppAraat: equally suspicious to studies [09:35] oh hmm, this is indeed a pickle. Thanks for the heads-up. [09:35] AppAraat you can disable studies after that particular study flies in, btw [09:36] it will keep the study installed [09:36] about:studies will show you the installed studies [09:36] and allow you to remove them [09:38] I'll consider that, though I can also set app.normandy.enabled to false after startup. [09:46] if i update apache2 package will the webserver restarts ? i wonder ? [09:46] necessarily, yes [09:47] is that restart-on-update mechanism part of systemd? [09:48] Hello. Suddenly I could not ssh to Ubuntu Server from ubuntu. -vv says: debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). and it freezes at debug1: pledge: network. [09:48] alocer: it won't restart on library updates, though, for that look at the 'needrestart' package [09:49] ducasse: thanks . [09:49] AppAraat no, it's part of the postinst scriptlet of the package [09:50] I restarted the server and client. also reinstalled openssh-server on server and ssh on client. nothing changed. [09:50] i asked on ubuntu-server but no replied. if i update using unattended-upgrade and apache2 or mysql-server got an update the systems will restart . right ? thats downtime :( [09:51] s/systems/services [09:51] alocer if you can't afford downtime, get a load balancer, add some redundancy and do rolling updates [09:51] thanks [09:51] wat [09:52] that was for alocer, not you [09:52] thanks [09:52] oh, late reply to my reply to your question [09:52] dammit simon [09:52] wake up [09:54] alocer: worth keeping in mind you'll probably have a graceful restart of apache nightly from logrotate anyway [09:55] tds: what.. didn't know that .. [09:55] thanks . [09:55] are you sure it's not a reload, tds? [10:02] Hello! Connecting a different max resolution external monitor to a laptop. Is there a way to keep te resolutions separate in ubuntu when in joined displays? It usually scales one or the other. Thanks! [10:02] TomyWork: it's a graceful restart, though I suppose you may need a full restart in an upgrade situation so the parent restarts as well [10:06] pizzaburger: you could take a look into dconf-editor perhaps for more screen tweaks [10:06] hello fellow Ubuntu users! does anyone how to stop the battery from charging at the 80% mark? [10:07] JohnMurdoch: whats your end goal with this? [10:08] lotuspsychje: Thank you, I will! [10:08] pizzaburger: normally also it depends on how you dualscreen, mirror or stretch [10:09] pizzaburger: the correct graphics driver also influences the resolution, might also worth checking [10:10] lotuspsychje: "stretch" I guess, it's "join displays" in Ubuntu, lets you use both monitors separatly [10:10] *separately [10:13] @lotuspsychje for thinkpads, we can have the charging of the battery stop at 80%. is this possible with any other laptop? [10:14] JohnMurdoch: not sure of that feature, you could try laptop-mode-tools maybe [10:17] would this be the right place to ask about ssh / sftp / chroot login issues ? [10:18] paul98: on ubuntu? [10:18] paul98: if they are on a system running a supported ubuntu version, yes. [10:18] yup it is, [10:19] Howdy folks [10:19] tds oh i didnt know that "graceful restart" was an actual, distinct thing. what is it? [10:19] i thought it just meant "kill -15 not kill -9" [10:20] TomyWork: it's an apache thing, it'll have it reload the config, have every child process cleanly exit once their connections are all closed and then restart them, and a few other things i'm forgetting [10:20]