[00:06] <Randune> hi all, I'm having a problem running the mmmx64.efi file (MokManager).  The loading screen for MokManager doesn't draw entirely, only the text is drawn where it says "Press any key to perform Mok Management" and the countdown text, but the rest of the screen is not drawn
[00:07] <Randune> and when I press any key to continue, the counter stops but the next screen isn't drawn
[00:07] <Randune> *mmx64.efi
[00:08] <sappheiros> is, for example, `falkon &` the standard way to launch applications?
[00:08] <sappheiros> or am i misusing the & and should do something else?
[00:28] <tomreyn> Randune: i think your best bet is to file a bug report.
[00:32] <tomreyn> sappheiros: & makes the newly started process detach off the shell you start it from, that's all it does. you don't normally need to do this, unless you want to be able to start mutliple sub processes from the same shell and keep the shell available for further commands in the meantime.
[00:57] <marc_> Whats is the current kernal version?
[00:58] <marc_> *kernel
[01:18] <[rg]> what else is required on ubuntu for the virtualbox vga driver to show up?
[01:18] <[rg]> i already have extpack installed succesfully
[01:35] <TrXtmp> Hey all, running 18.10 and have no idea where the nouveau driver is *still* loading from after installing the nvidia kernel modules via dkms. Have blacklisted via modprobe, still loads. Have removed the nouveau.ko module from my /lib/module/${uname -a} path, still loads, rebuilt my initrd, still loads, have extracted my initrd to check that the driver doesnt exist in the ramdisk... doesnt exist! Dont have a single nouveau.ko on my sys
[01:37] <tomreyn> [rg]: you don't need th eextension pack, just the guest addoitions (see devices menu). there's also the #vbox channel for virtualbox questions
[01:43] <tomreyn> TrXtmp: maybe focus on ensuring that nvidia's driver is loaded, this should ensure nouveau is not.     have a look at   sudo gpu-manager
[01:49] <tomreyn> or is the goal not to load any driver at all for this hardware? then you could use pci_stub to unbind the pci device
[01:49] <TrXtmp> @tomreyn Issue is nouveau is getting there first and wont cleanly unload, meaning the nvidia driver is never able to claim the card:
[01:51] <TrXtmp> https://pastebin.com/WpwRqqSN
[01:52] <tomreyn> if i recall this properly (don't have such hardware), X will first load nouveau no matter what, to get a better idea of the hardware available, then, if nvidia suggests it supports the hardware, unload the nouveau driver and load the nvidia one instead.
[01:53] <tomreyn> please mention you're using an unsupported kernel image next time you ask such questions.
[01:53] <TrXtmp> tomreyn: how is that possible if the system doesnt have a copy of the nouveau driver matching the kernel?
[01:53] <TrXtmp> Apologies RE the kernel, wouldnt expect it would make much difference being a module issue?
[01:54] <tomreyn> it makes a difference. supported kernels are supported here, unsupported kernels are not.
[01:56] <TrXtmp> Will see if the problem persists on the regular kernel.
[01:57] <[rg]> tomreyn: yes but I usually get redirected since I am using ubuntu's build etc
[01:58] <[rg]> on other systems where I see options for the video driver I can solve the small vbox screen issue
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[02:46] <ebisu> Im looking for a means to deploy Ubuntu on a desktop in a similar fashion to a debian netinstall. Can Ubuntu server be used for this purpose, or is there a catch?
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[02:50] <newdimension> I have a cron script that runs find /directory -type f -mtime +7 -name "*.log" -delete. To get rid of some log files. How can I log the names of the files getting deleted?
[02:51] <naptastic> newdimension, add -print to your cron command, then redirect the output (use >>, not >) into a log file of your choice.
[02:51] <naptastic> And now you have a new log file to manage. ;-)
[02:51] <newdimension> haha :)
[02:53] <newdimension> Isn't there a log file for cron? I read post about that, but all I can find in my logs is just a oneline for anacron
[02:53] <ebisu> ive heard of some mini iso, whats the difference between that and the server
[02:53] <naptastic> maybe? The only facility I know of is MAILTO= and that's probably not what you're after. Maybe there's something like that for logging? Maybe man crontab?
[02:53] <ebisu> i just wanna drop into a shell on boot, install my window manager and go from there
[02:54] <newdimension> I'll look into it
[02:55] <naptastic> ebisu, the server installer will probably give you the experience you want: pretty light, without being crippling.
[02:56] <ebisu> i already run it on a VPS so I figured it would serve the same purpose on the desktop
[02:56] <Bashing-om> ebisu: Any sane distro has a "mininal install".
[02:56] <ebisu> what exactly is the "mini iso"
[02:56] <ebisu> that Ive read about
[02:56] <naptastic> IMO, the desktop edition is way too annoying. I use the server installer to get a minimal environment, then install MATE.
[02:57] <naptastic> ebisu, the link is in an obscure place. One moment.
[02:57] <ebisu> I use windowmaker so I have no reason to use one of the standard  desktop distributions
[03:00] <ebisu> also is it true that 18.04 is going to be supported for 10 years or is that hearsay from distrowatch
[03:01] <naptastic> ebisu, you're running x86_64, right? If so, this is the link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/release/ubuntu-18.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[03:01] <ebisu> yes
[03:01] <ebisu> Has Ubuntu really killed support for 32 bit? Quite a shame.
[03:01] <ebisu> I run Devuan on my X60
[03:02] <ebisu> also thank you naptastic I will install it
[03:03] <Bashing-om> ebisu: Nott dead yet .. there is still xubuntu that has a 32 bit install.
[03:03] <ebisu> Can I install LILO on Ubuntu in the text installer like on Debian or will that have to come later?
[03:03] <naptastic> ebisu, I've never used LILO so I have no idea, but I hope that works out well for you.
[03:03] <ebisu> sorry for all the stupid questions I havent used Ubuntu since pre-unity
[03:04] <naptastic> heh, you missed out on the correct parts ;)
[03:04] <krytarik> Bashing-om: No, not anymore either - same with Lubuntu.
[03:05] <ebisu> another question, if I remove dash will ubuntu respect ym bash declarations>
[03:05] <ebisu> because it sure doesnt on my VPS
[03:10] <tomreyn> krytarik: xubuntu and lubuntu 18.04 lts support i386, i doubt they'll end support prematurely.
[03:11] <Bashing-om> krytarik: 18.04 xubuntu still with a 32 bit image: https://xubuntu.org/download .
[03:12] <krytarik> "Has Ubuntu really killed support for 32 bit?"
[03:13] <tomreyn> oops, sorry
[03:15] <tomreyn> krytarik: So, if you understood "Ubuntu" as vanilla Ubuntu, not one of the flavours, then you're right, otherwise, there's still support in some flavours.
[03:15] <krytarik> No, I took that as a general question pertaining to current releases.
[03:17] <tomreyn> i see.
[03:20] <naptastic> Is there a way to just go back to using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:21] <naptastic> I'm just flabbergasted at these systems, which are so much more complicated, and yet capable of so much less, and I have to ask... where did we go wrong?
[03:56] <raub> What is the best place to add a kernel module parameter? /etc/modules,  modules-load.d/modules.conf, or just create my /etc/modprobe.d/module.conf file?
[03:59] <reynolds10> VMware Workstation not working for Ubuntu 19.0.4?
[03:59] <reynolds10> Halp me
[04:00] <reynolds10> Maybe my version of Ubuntu is still not supported?
[04:01] <tomreyn> reynolds10: ubuntu 19.04 is supported here, vmware solutions are not (unless someone volunteers to). please contact vmware.
[04:01] <reynolds10> Ugh, alright. Thx
[04:03] <tomreyn> raub: the easiest option is probably to place it in /etc/default/grub 's GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and to update-grub
[04:05] <raub> reynolds10: I have to say any time I needed to run vmware I just got ESXi and put it in a physical box. If I wanted to run vms in a linux box, I would either get virtualbox or kvm
[04:06] <reynolds10> No, because I looked on VMware's website and it says 19.04 is not supported, but 18.04 is.
[04:07] <reynolds10> And after I installed the bundle file for 15.0.4 and tried to open workstation I was getting an error about certain modules needed to be installed.
[04:07] <reynolds10> So I clicked install and it said unable to stop services and couldn't continue any further.
[04:08] <reynolds10> Was having the same problem while doing the same thing on my Manjaro system.
[04:09] <reynolds10> But anyway, I'm downloading 18.04 Ubuntu version and see if it fixes the problem
[04:09] <raub> THere is #vmware
[04:10] <reynolds10> thx
[04:11] <reynolds10> sorry about complaining about a problem that you guys have no control over.
[04:22] <ChetManly>  /j ##linux
[04:53] <ekiro> is there a way to download a huge mega pack of fonts? the more the better. via terminal.
[04:58] <tomreyn> ekiro: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/fonts/
[04:58] <tomreyn> to install ubuntu packages from a terminal, use   apt install <packagename>
[05:01] <krytarik> ekiro: The 'ubuntustudio-fonts' package would add quite a few. >_>
[05:02] <ekiro> thx
[05:02] <ekiro> ideally i'd like a package that has every font ever created available
[05:02] <ekiro> or everytong from google fonts
[05:02] <ekiro> :)
[05:05] <tomreyn> many fonts are not openly licensed, others are licensed in a way they could not be packaged with priorietary fonts. so this is effectively impossible.
[05:05] <raub> tomreyn: Thanks. I was hoping for something that did not require me doing things like building new ramfs, but if that is the only option, it is th eonly option
[05:32] <Rembo> hello, does one of the following patches require reboot? https://pastebin.com/GvPpQFi3
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: whats your ubuntu version and do you have external ppa's installed?
[05:41] <gambl0r3> should i upgrade to kubuntu 19?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: wich release are you on now?
[05:41] <gambl0r3> 18
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: 18 doesnt exist
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: 18.04 or 18.10?
[05:42] <gambl0r3> not sure...
[05:42] <gambl0r3> probably 18.04
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: lsb_release -a to avoid the probably
[05:43] <gambl0r3> 18.10
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: your personal choice
[05:43] <gambl0r3> obviously its my personal choice. im asking for people's opinions
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: come join in #ubuntu-discuss for an opinion
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: #ubuntu is only for support issues
[05:44] <gambl0r3> then why even bother asking what version im using?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0r3: because its relevant to your question, wich procedure to follow
[05:45] <gambl0r3> if you say so
[05:45] <Rembo> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS \n \l
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: kubuntu 16.04 is end of life, please lts upgrade to 18.04 or clean install
[05:49] <krytarik> lotuspsychje: I think you confused the two users though. :)
[05:49] <Rembo> lotuspsychje, upgrade to 18.04 is not a option right now
[05:49] <krytarik> Rembo: Ubuntu proper or a flavor of it?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> krytarik: howso?
[05:50] <Rembo> krytarik, Ubuntu proper
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> oh right gambl0r3 is on kubuntu
[05:51] <Rembo> there are still maintainance updates and extended security patches available for Ubuntu 16.04
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: is that desktop or server you are on?
[05:55] <Rembo> lotuspsychje, it is server
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: come join to #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers please
[06:13] <whitebyte> I am using ubuntu 18.04 and want to set the hostname for a ubuntu18.04 machine provided by the Kea DHCP server, in the lease file provided by kea DHCP sever "option host-name" is set correctly but hostname is not updated on machine.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> whitebyte: ubuntu server?
[06:14] <whitebyte> yes ubuntu server
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> whitebyte: come join to #ubuntu-server please for likeminded support
[06:15] <whitebyte> will join, thanks
[06:23] <cappe> here is another colors which looks so much better than purple, for the theme within ubuntu! #002B36
[06:23] <cappe> cya
[06:45] <saijfijasbib> hi guys
[06:46] <saijfijasbib> Im connected to a local network which has no connection to outside the lan, and the interface is always shut down after a half a minute
[06:46] <saijfijasbib> can someone help me staying connected with the specific interface settings that I configured?
[07:45] <stoned> what's a good torrent client for ubuntu 1804
[07:46] <ducasse> qbittorrent is nice
[07:47] <ducasse> depends what you want. discussions about software recommendations really belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <Ouyes> hiya, I am in ubuntu 16.04 and is there possible that I can move the launcher bar from left to top, I already know how to move it to bottom, but I don't know why the same way can not move it to top. I want it to be at top?
[07:57] <JohnGavr> Ouyes, at the top you have the status bar right??
[07:59] <scinkpad> Sup Lads
[07:59] <scinkpad> What yall doing
[08:06] <geronimogarcia> Hi all, I've installed 19.04 a couple of days ago and I'm having problems with DNS resolution over wifi, I'd need some assistance diagnosing and fixing the problem. First I'd like to verity that the problem is indeed DNS resolution over WiFi. Any help is appreciated
[08:08] <paul1us> Hi, I'm trying to save environment variable at a user level to be used in a Spring boot application. i was told that I need to set it in .pam_environment. I opened the file using a text editor and added my variables,  and saved the document. However the application does not recognise them. I am not sure if I did it right as it's my first time doing so.
[08:10] <paul1us> when I type env into the terminal I do not see the variables I added.
[08:12] <Ouyes> JohnGavr, what do you mean by status bar?
[08:14] <skuuter> Spring resolved external config like this: https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/reference/html/boot-features-external-config.html
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: on unity you can only set the dock to left bottom or right i think
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: you might wanna take a look into dconf-editor
[08:14] <skuuter> You could for instance use the jvm parameter --spring.config.location to point to your config location
[08:17] <Akerfeldt> hi
[08:18] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, you mean dconf-editor is a tool could move launcher to the top
[08:18] <paul1us> skuuter, thank you! I will try to read it.
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: dconf-editor is a GUI tool to tweak your settings ond esktop
[08:19] <Ouyes> thanks
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: to track down your problem, you might wanna: tail -f /var/log/syslog then disable and enable wifi again, then pastebin us the errors
[08:21] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, I did open the app of dconf-editor, but for unity, it seems nothing I can configure
[08:23] <geronimogarcia> lotuspsychje on it! Thanks for your help!
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: check here: https://www.ostechnix.com/move-unity-launcher-bottom-ubuntu-16-04/
[08:34] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, it is a little bit strange, I did open dconf-editor but in unity there is no launcher settings at all
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: did you browse to: com.canonical.Unity.Launcher ?
[08:37] <geronimogarcia> lotuspsychje here is the pastebin https://pastebin.com/yfUFqpYv
[08:37] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, yeah, now it is showing, but only two options,  bottom, left.
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: yes, thats what i suspected, so thats your answer
[08:38] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, so there is no way to move it to top. I remember it can be moved to top when I was using 14.04
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: whats that network js thing, are you using something specific related to network?
[08:40] <geronimogarcia> looks like a gnome shell widget message
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: wich ubuntu version and wifi chipset please?
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: just checked in 18.04 you can set dock to top
[08:42] <geronimogarcia> ubuntu version is 19.04 with the chipset I'll need some help
[08:42] <ducasse> geronimogarcia: is it an usb adapter or built-in?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: sudo lshw -C network
[08:42] <geronimogarcia> built-in
[08:42] <geronimogarcia> it's a Dell Precision 5530
[08:43] <geronimogarcia> Intel AC-9260
[08:43] <geronimogarcia> that's the wireless chipset
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx geronimogarcia
[08:44] <rory> At some point, middle-click to close tab in Chrome stopped working, and I can't work out if it's Ubuntu 18.04 related or Crome related
[08:49] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, that is nice. but my development env is too much binded to 16.04.
[08:49] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, mr or ms hanks a lot.
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: at line 243 there are starting some dns lines
[08:50] <Ouyes> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot.
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> Ouyes: welcome
[08:50] <geronimogarcia> yes, I added those in NetworkManager manually
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: maybe thats where it goes wrong?
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: im not really the dns expert, but you might want to share some more info to the channel what you did there, for what purpose
[08:51] <aLeSD> hi all
[08:51] <geronimogarcia> it was happening before I added those entries, hoping it was my ISP and my wonky router configuration
[08:52] <geronimogarcia> this is pretty much a fresh ubuntu install, I
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: for the weirdness in your router, you could take a look in ##networking
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: for the ubuntu part, perhaps wipe the dns settings, or try an LTS release to compare?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: a router reboot ca also do some magic in some cases
[08:54] <geronimogarcia> I only added openconnect, and set those DNS to bypass the router DNS
[08:54] <geronimogarcia> I've found some threads that mention this WiFi chipset and some problems with 4.17 kernels
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | Ouyes you could try if this goes to top too
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: is your system up to date?
[08:56] <geronimogarcia> one device firmware update
[08:57] <geronimogarcia> I'll update and see where it goes
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> geronimogarcia: its possible non-lts version might influence your wifi, test an lts too to compare
[09:01] <geronimogarcia> yeah, that's sort of an issue, I switched my work laptop and I need to get it working as soon as iI can
[09:01] <geronimogarcia> I'll try to dig some more and see if I can fix it
[09:02] <geronimogarcia> thanks anyways for the help, greatly appretiated
[09:03] <anam> hi
[09:03] <anam> hi
[09:04] <anam> hi
[09:04] <leirodes> @search kriwaczaek
[09:05] <Paddy_NI> Can anyone help me fix a couple of pixel overlap on one of my displays.  I am using two displays - my primary display is on the right, on the left edge of this display is a pixel or two of overlap all along the height of the monitor.
[09:06] <rory> anam: better just ask your question
[09:11] <mistawright> hi guys i have a question I need to access a database that is in rackspaces servicenet. Can you create an ssh tunnel on a host and then access that tunnel from another instance? Everything I have seen shows the ssh tunnel being accessed from localhost
[09:11] <Pronoe> Hi all, I'm trying to setup a landscape server unfortunately it is pretty tricky to find information online. I'm trying to figure out what's the purpose and how to use the "filter-type" option of a pocket. Anyone knows that?
[09:13] <Siilwyn[m]> Hi there, does anybody know when Kernel 5.1 is planned to land for Ubuntu 19.04?
[09:14] <ninto> i am to dumb to know where and what file i need to replace all the ::= lines with := , https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/issues/162 .
[09:14] <ninto> anyone?
[09:14] <ducasse> Pronoe: landscape is not supported by us, but by canonical
[09:15] <Pronoe> ducasse: thanks for the clarification
[09:15] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: it's not, 19.04 won't get a newer kernel version
[09:16] <Siilwyn[m]> ninto: I think all of them.
[09:16] <Siilwyn[m]> ducasse: ah okay, that's a bummer. Is it risky to install it following this guide?
[09:16] <Siilwyn[m]> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[09:17] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: not necessarily risky, but totally unsupported. note that those kernels are meant for testing, not daily use. they don't have the ubuntu patches, so some functionality might be lacking
[09:18] <anam> exit
[09:19] <Siilwyn[m]> ducasse: alright, thank you for your detailed reply, much appreciated!
[09:20] <Siilwyn[m]> I really want to use it since it fixes a bug that causes my laptop to be unable to suspend, making it very frustrating to use Ubuntu on.
[09:20] <ducasse> !mainline | Siilwyn[m]
[09:20] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: in that case i would file a bug, see if that patch can be backported
[09:21] <Siilwyn[m]> oh I didn't know that backporting in the kernel is possible
[09:21] <Siilwyn[m]> I have bug open: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1812561 for some time now
[09:22] <Siilwyn[m]> but the maintainer doesn't want to confirm it for some reason
[09:22] <ducasse> let me take a look
[09:24] <Siilwyn[m]> just posted the link to the commit that resolves this issue
[09:24] <ninto> Siilwyn[m]: yea, i got that. but i dont know what file to edit :x
[09:25] <Siilwyn[m]> ninto: the 'makefile'
[09:27] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: there's no mention there of whether or not it works in 19.94 that i can see?
[09:29] <Siilwyn[m]> ducasse: 19.94? do you mean Ubuntu 19.04?
[09:29] <chl_> hey, in isc-dhcpd I have set two options: 'option host-name "test";' and 'option tftp-server-name "<ip>";' but the option tftp-server-name is not included in the dhcp packet if I check with dhcpdebug. Anyone had this problem before and know how to solve it?
[09:29] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: yes, sorry
[09:30] <Siilwyn[m]> I don't explicitly say it doesn't work on 19.04 since we're talking about upstream kernel versions in the thread. Should I post that it doesn't work out of the box on 19.04?
[09:31] <ducasse> that's essentially what they ask for in #28, as the developer thinks it should be fixed there
[09:33] <Siilwyn[m]> ooooh
[09:33] <Siilwyn[m]> I see it now, I didn't understand what was meant with #28
[09:35] <Siilwyn[m]> thanks a ton ducasse!
[09:35] <Siilwyn[m]> really hope this gets backported
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> chl_: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[09:37] <chl_> lotuspsychje: will do, thanks
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> Siilwyn[m]: just for the feedback, i had great experiences with 18.04 lts on several mac types working like a charm
[09:39] <Siilwyn[m]> lotuspsychje: thanks for the tip, that is probably because it uses a kernel version below 4.19.8 which contains the regression.
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Siilwyn[m]: you might want to compare kernel versions/ubuntu releases yes
[09:40] <Siilwyn[m]> I'm kinda stuck on a 5 though since I use the wayland scaling with external monitors almost daily.
[09:40] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: 18.04 will get later kernels, though
[09:40] <Siilwyn[m]> ducasse: an older version does get the new kernel?
[09:41] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: lts releases do
[09:41] <ducasse> !hwe | Siilwyn[m]
[09:42] <Siilwyn[m]> hmm so the release cycle is not as simple as I think it is
[09:43] <Siilwyn[m]> I actually switched from 18.04 LTS to 18.10 to get a newer kernel version if I remember correctly
[09:43] <Siilwyn[m]> maybe stupid in hindsight
[09:43] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: lts releases get the x stack and kernels from all later releases
[09:43] <ducasse> it takes a while, though
[09:43] <Siilwyn[m]> but probably shorter than waiting months, e.g. in my case for 19.10 right?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> Siilwyn[m]: next in line is 19.04
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> Siilwyn[m]: 19.10 is still in development atm
[09:45] <Siilwyn[m]> lotuspsychje: I am on 19.04 already, but it won't get the new kernel 5.1 if I understand it  correctly
[09:46] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: iirc v5 is in -proposed for 18.04 atm, it will arrive soon
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> Siilwyn[m]: ah i see, well as 19.10 is in very early stage now, its reccomended only if you want to help testing, not daily driver yet
[09:47] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: a later kernel than that will not arrive until well after 19.10 is released
[09:48] <Siilwyn[m]> ducasse: so to clarify: v5.1 will be in 18.04 soonish(tm) but 19.04 will stay at v5.0?
[09:48] <Seveas> Siilwyn[m]: you can use the mainline team kernels to get a 5.1 kernel
[09:49] <Seveas> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.1/
[09:49] <ducasse> Siilwyn[m]: no, 5.0 will be in 18.04 soon - the kernel from 19.04
[09:49] <ducasse> Seveas: we've covered that, now we're talking about supported options :)
[09:50] <Siilwyn[m]> yeah Seveas to catch you up, this is the downside: "those kernels are meant for testing, not daily use. they don't have the ubuntu patches, so some functionality might be lacking"
[09:50] <Seveas> there's no supported option
[09:51] <MrSassyPants> How do I get nvidia drivers working again on 19.04
[09:51] <MrSassyPants> (or kernel 5.0)
[09:51] <Siilwyn[m]> just wanted to type that haha
[09:51] <Siilwyn[m]> until 19.10 atleast
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: wich graphics card chipset do you have, with wich driver loaded?
[09:52] <aLeSD> how could I install goLang ?
[09:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[09:52] <TomyWork> i have a packaging problem. is there a channel related to packaging on freenode?
[09:53] <MrSassyPants> gf660, before the upgrade to 19.04 I ran 415.27 on kernel 4.18 I think.
[09:53] <Seveas> aLeSD: you're looking for the golang-go package
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: what does ubuntu-drivers list suggest for you?
[09:54] <MrSassyPants> lotuspsychje, 430, but it doesn't let me install that because I have "held back defective packages" or something
[09:55] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: then let's fix that first :) what's the command you're running and its full output?
[09:55] <MrSassyPants> xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-430 libnvidia-cfg1-430 in particular
[09:55] <MrSassyPants> "sudo apt install nvidia-driver-430"
[09:56] <MrSassyPants> https://pastebin.com/GpiVGSKV here
[09:57] <aLeSD> Seveas, thanks
[09:57] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: I'm not finding nvidia-driver-430 in any default repos. Which repos/ppa's have you added?
[09:58] <MrSassyPants> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[09:58] <MrSassyPants> I had the similar thing happening before I added the repo, I added the repo to see if that fixed it because I probably was using the repo before
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: the ubuntu graphics ppa should not interfere with apt, do you have other ppa's enabled?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !alis | TomyWork
[09:59] <MrSassyPants> lotuspsychje, I just did a dist-upgrade, that usually disables all custom PPAs, correct?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: take a look into your sources.list
[10:01] <MrSassyPants> lotuspsychje, that is hard to parse, is there some easy list-repositories command
[10:01] <gofio> any suggestion on how to approach this known bug from a total noob perspective? thanks https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-bionic.git/commit/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c?id=c91729972ac67983a37270d0856f1ee93af54913 I have quite a long pastebin compiled stuff but for the moment with just an initial direction it would be fine
[10:01] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: seems to be working for me, try a 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | MrSassyPants
[10:02] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: dist-upgrade does not disable ppa's, do-release-upgrade does.
[10:02] <MrSassyPants> well I did that one
[10:02] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje, i found #ubuntu-packaging in the wiki
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: neat
[10:03] <TomyWork> not many people there, though
[10:03] <TomyWork> my problem is, i can't install a package that depends on gdb:i386, because the gdb:amd64 package conflicts with my equivs package that provides gdb:i386
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: there's also #ubuntu-devel if you like
[10:04] <MrSassyPants> I can try something entirely different and purge all nvidia
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: well with the ubuntu ppa, its more reccomended to switch instead
[10:04] <TomyWork> thanks, i'll try there.
[10:05] <MrSassyPants> lotuspsychje, I'm assuming the do-release-upgrade without the ppa installed drivers which conflicted with the ppa drivers I had installed before and that's why now activating the ppa didn't fix anything
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: you could try to switch to a lower version for example, aka 418
[10:05] <MrSassyPants> I tried that, didn't work either
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: the ubuntu graphics ppa is well maintained, should not give dependency issues
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: so if apt gives errors, it has to come from something else
[10:07] <MrSassyPants> argh, even the purge seemingly leaves packages installed
[10:08] <MrSassyPants> i.e. trying to install 430 with a supposedly nvidia-less system still tells me it's going to remove various 415 things
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: lets have a look at your sources.list plz?
[10:09] <MrSassyPants> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d2grfwpcHJ/ lotuspsychje
[10:09] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: and the files in /etc/sources.list.d
[10:09] <MrSassyPants> thats a truckload of files
[10:10] <Seveas> you only need the ones ending in .list
[10:10] <rory> if I am on 18.04, and edit  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to set prompt=normal, then will the upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04 go OK? Or should I upgrade via 18.10 first?
[10:10] <Seveas> the others are backups from when things disable ppa's
[10:10] <Seveas> rory: you'll need to go through 18.10
[10:10] <MrSassyPants> oibaf-ubuntu-graphics-drivers-bionic.list <- These are in there, they're old
[10:10] <rory> OK thanks Seveas
[10:11] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: more /etc/sources.list.d/*.list | cat
[10:11] <Seveas> pastebin the output of that, it'll be all files including their names
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> rory: keep in mind you are going from lts to a non-lts
[10:12] <MrSassyPants> well after purging nvidia and attempting to install 430 again, it seems to have worked (no errors, attempting to install 430 again doesn't tell me anything suspicious)
[10:12] <Seveas> MrSassyPants: great :)
[10:12] <MrSassyPants> I'm gonna give it the old reboot
[10:12] <MrSassyPants> to see if it now boots up as it should
[10:12] <Seveas> :fingers_crossed: :)
[10:16] <MrSassyPants> update: It looks fine, I guess?
[10:16] <Seveas> I like that update
[10:24] <Tankburn> I changed to the wrong nVidia display driver and now my gfx is super laggy
[10:25] <Tankburn> I want to restore the norveau driver again but dont know how on the CLI or the GUI
[10:26] <Tankburn> I would research the web, but I have to right click and bring up a context menu to refresh the new webpage content as I scroll down, its pretty painful
[10:27] <interrobangd> HELLO :)
[10:27] <Tankburn> hey
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Tankburn, think removing the nvidia driver in use shouid restore nouveau after a reboot, if not use the vt/tty and install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:32] <interrobangd> i am using ubuntu 19.04  with using cinnamon desktop (latest version, PPA) and can not install the package "cinnamon-screensaver-x-plugin"!
[10:33] <interrobangd> "cinnamon-screensaver-x-plugin : Depends: cinnamon-screensaver (>= 3.1.0) but it is not going to be installed" ... BUT it's installed: Package: cinnamon-screensaver, Version: 4.0.3-1~disco0
[10:33] <interrobangd> ... what can i do???
[10:35] <interrobangd> what are the problem!?
[10:39] <reynolds10> Oh no, I can't run a VM in Ubuntu if Ubuntu is already a VM
[10:39] <reynolds10> that sucks
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Tankburn, for vt/tty use ctl+alt+F2-F6 if you don't get a desktop, if you do then open the cli and do: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:41] <BluesKaj> to make sure
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> interrobangd: we dont support external ppa's, contact the maintainer please
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> for those who waited the firefox updates, they are out, update your systems
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[11:29] <u19kl6c> hello
[11:48] <kaneki> help
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | kaneki
[11:48] <JohnGavr> kaneki,  describe your problem... we can't help you
[11:49] <ChunkzZ> can anyone help me setting up openvpn? I have tried installing it: apt install openvpn and running it: openvpn vpn.ovpn and it's saying I have no Internet when I try and run "curl icanhazip.com" ?
[11:51] <ChunkzZ> ping doesn't work too!
[11:52] <BluesKaj> using a free vpn server or a commercial one, ChunkzZ?
[11:52] <ChunkzZ> torguard so paid.
[11:54] <BluesKaj> did you download a gui client to install?
[11:54] <ChunkzZ> no, command line.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> so you added the .ovpn files to /etc/openvpn ?
[11:56] <urgodfather> BluesKaj dont you have to make a password file too? been a while since i used ovpn on ubuntu
[11:56] <ChunkzZ> BluesKaj, no
[11:57] <ChunkzZ> the .ovpn is in my home dir.
[11:57] <ChunkzZ> urgodfather, it asks for a username/password; I enter them and it connects but doesn't allow Internet.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> urgodfather, yes, username and pw in a textfile usually in /etc/openvpm
[11:57] <ChunkzZ> BluesKaj, ^
[11:58] <urgodfather> ChunkzZ can you verify that it actually connects?
[11:59] <ChunkzZ> yes, it connects.
[11:59] <urgodfather> ChunkzZ do you get an ip from the vpn server?
[11:59] <ChunkzZ> yes.
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, normally you need to add the .ovpn files which point to the servers to /etc/openvpn IME
[11:59] <urgodfather> are you able to ping the vpn server?
[12:00] <ChunkzZ> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4wJZbSVSTf/
[12:00] <ChunkzZ> no urgodfather
[12:00] <ChunkzZ> see the paste, it connects.
[12:00] <urgodfather> sounds like the routing isnt allowing traffic to pass
[12:02] <urgodfather> ChunkzZ what method did you install ovpn client?
[12:02] <ChunkzZ> command line.
[12:02] <urgodfather> link to instructions followed?
[12:02] <ChunkzZ> what?
[12:03] <ChunkzZ> "apt install openvpn"
[12:03] <urgodfather> ok
[12:03] <urgodfather> thats what i wanted to knwo
[12:03] <urgodfather> if you pulled from ubuntu or if you installed via wget
[12:04] <ChunkzZ> pulled from ubuntu...
[12:05] <ChunkzZ> curl: (6) Could not resolve host: icanhazip.com
[12:06] <TomyWork> our company lan's domain has the (unfortunate) TLD ".local". I can't look up DNS names in that. I already stopped avahi-daemon (which usually fixes the issues), but I still can't resolve these DNS names. what else might be intercepting .local name resolution?
[12:06] <TomyWork> this is 18.04, which, i think, uses systemd-resolve
[12:07] <urgodfather> ChunkzZ https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html.en
[12:07] <ChunkzZ> lol urgodfather that does NOT help.
[12:08] <urgodfather> scroll down
[12:08] <urgodfather> it sure does
[12:08] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, run wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO - , to check the server IP
[12:08] <c06> hi all
[12:08] <OerHeks> that ovpn wiki surely works.
[12:08] <c06> is there any way to force ldap server to use only certain ciphers
[12:08] <urgodfather> look at the client side and verify that you did something similar to the instructions
[12:08] <urgodfather> connect and do a netstat to verify the routes
[12:09] <ChunkzZ> how BluesKaj when I don't have Internet?!
[12:10] <ChunkzZ> where on that link that helps urgodfather
[12:12] <urgodfather> starting with the "Simple Client Configuration" section
[12:12] <urgodfather> you verified that you installed via apt
[12:13] <urgodfather> did you copy the config to /etc/openvpn/ like BluesKaj suggested?
[12:13] <urgodfather> did you import the cert and the key?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, you aren't using network-manager so you need to setup your /etc/network/interfaces file to connect to the i nternet
[12:14] <urgodfather> check your tun0 interface with ifconfig tun0 and verify that you are getting an ip
[12:14] <urgodfather> try to ping the server
[12:14] <urgodfather> check your routes with netstat
[12:14] <urgodfather> all of this is in the wiki
[12:15] <urgodfather> OMG good point BluesKaj
[12:16] <ChunkzZ> but it connects without the vpn BluesKaj
[12:16] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, like so (example) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B3C5WRDpwX/
[12:17] <urgodfather> need to establish local connection first
[12:17] <urgodfather> you dont have dns setup in there
[12:18] <BluesKaj> yes, NM is connecting, but since you aren't using NM-openvpn , NM will ignore
[12:19] <ChunkzZ> # ifupdown has been replaced by netplan(5) on this system.
[12:19] <ChunkzZ> I also installed ifupdown and rebooted.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> i have dns set up in my router or it canbe setup in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:20] <TomyWork> how do i tell systemd-resolve to resolve *.local names through the regular dns server?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> netplan renderer should be commented
[12:21] <pragmaticenigma> TomyWork: You set up your local dns server to resolve them
[12:22] <TomyWork> it does
[12:22] <pragmaticenigma> TomyWork: You can't have two DNS providers for a network, that don't provide the same records.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, so you aren't using NM at all?
[12:22] <TomyWork> nslookup something.local $my_dns_server does work
[12:22] <urgodfather> ^^
[12:22] <TomyWork> nslookup something.local does not
[12:23] <pragmaticenigma> TomyWork: In other words, you can't have Google DNS as primary DNS amd a local DNS server as secondary. If Google responds to any request, it will not go to the secondary for additional look ups
[12:23] <TomyWork> pragmaticenigma, that is not the case. there is only one dns
[12:23] <ChunkzZ> it works.
[12:23] <ChunkzZ> :D
[12:23] <TomyWork> well, not counting systemd-resolve, which is itself a caching dns daemon
[12:23] <TomyWork> but i dont assume you meant that
[12:23] <urgodfather> ChunkzZ care to share what the fix was?
[12:24] <ChunkzZ> I had to enable ifupdown and edit NetworkManager.conf.
[12:24] <urgodfather> ty
[12:24] <TomyWork> i'm wiresharking port 53 udp. for *.local names, i only see the requests to the systemd-resolve daemon, but no request to any backend server
[12:25] <TomyWork> for other addresses, i see both
[12:25] <pragmaticenigma> Last I remember, systemd-resolve uses dnsmasq to cache dns requests. In my home network, I setup an instance of pi-hole, and configured it with local domains. I've never had to make any changes to my local systems so they can resolve .local domains
[12:25] <solderfumes> TomyWork: `systemd-resolve status` sould list the "local" TLD under "DNS Domain". If it doesn't, either DHCP isn't broadcasting the domain option, or systemd-resolve is ignoring it
[12:25] <urgodfather> pragmaticenigma +1 for pihole
[12:26] <TomyWork> --status, yeah, and it does.
[12:26] <ChunkzZ> cheers urgodfather for your help and BluesKaj ;)
[12:27] <TomyWork> solderfumes, the thing is that some time after this company got its internal .local TLD, apple came along and said this is reserved for mDNS now
[12:27] <BluesKaj> I totally avoid NM and use if updown plus the interfaces file settings above
[12:27] <TomyWork> so .local is special now
[12:27] <TomyWork> and i need to unspecial it
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ChunkzZ, np :-)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> err ifupdown
[12:29] <TomyWork> pragmaticenigma, there is no dnsmasq running. systemd-resolve seems to be a cachine demon in itself
[12:29] <TomyWork> caching*
[12:30] <TomyWork> dpkg-query: package 'dnsmasq' is not installed and no information is available
[12:30] <solderfumes> btw yes, systemd-resolve uses its own dns stub server
[12:31] <TomyWork> dnsmasq-base is installed, though
[12:31] <CITIZEN4> Hi. Anyone can help with linux not starting after deleted MESA drivers?
[12:31] <solderfumes> `sudo ss -ulpn`, port 53 on the loopback interface will be systemd-resolve
[12:31] <pragmaticenigma> TomyWork: If it was me, I'd look into setting up a real DNS server for your network. It will be a lot more flexible and easier to update than having to constantly tweak your system for each new local domain you'd like to add
[12:31] <TomyWork> UNCONN                     0                           0                                                 127.0.0.53%lo:53                                                   0.0.0.0:*                          users:(("systemd-resolve",pid=3758,fd=12))
[12:32] <solderfumes> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-resolved#mDNS
[12:32] <TomyWork> pragmaticenigma, that is already the case
[12:32] <TomyWork> like i said
[12:32] <solderfumes> TomyWork: ^
[12:32] <TomyWork> "Note: If Avahi has been installed, consider disabling avahi-daemon.service and avahi-daemon.socket to prevent conflicts with systemd-resolved."
[12:32] <TomyWork> avahi annoyance brought to you without the need to install avahi
[12:32] <solderfumes> ```
[12:32] <solderfumes> For systemd-networkd the setting is MulticastDNS= in the [Network] section. See systemd.network(5).
[12:32] <pragmaticenigma> TomyWork: Apologies, the way things were being discussed, it sounded like you were attempting to configure systemd-resolve as a dns server
[12:32] <solderfumes> ```
[12:33] <solderfumes> you should disable that
[12:33] <TomyWork> going to do that
[12:33] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 what's going on?
[12:34] <tds> TomyWork: is this system using networkd or network-manager?
[12:34] <tds> since in the case of network-manager you should configure the mdns options there and have it push them over dbus to resolved
[12:35] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, Hi. Have AMD graphic card before but change to Nvidia GTX and gave now problem with MESa.
[12:35] <solderfumes> tds is right, on non-server computers NetworkManager will handle your interfaces, but it still uses systemd-resolve for the local caching DNS server
[12:35] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather: Hi. Have AMD graphic card before but change to Nvidia GTX and gave now problem with MESa.
[12:36] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 are you booting while still trying to load mesa?
[12:36] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 are you able to boot, get sound?
[12:36] <solderfumes> Perhaps you should try disabling caching altogether, and hit the DNS server on your network.
[12:36] <urgodfather> +1 solderfumes
[12:38] <tds> keep in mind you'll also want to fiddle with nsswitch.conf to make queries use nss-dns again rather than nss-resolve
[12:38] <TomyWork> tds, is that a gui thing?
[12:38] <TomyWork> err no
[12:38] <tds> TomyWork: network-manager is what you typically get on a desktop install, yes, you'd get netplan + networkd on a server install
[12:38] <TomyWork> not gonna mess with nsswitch.conf
[12:38] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 im gonna get some coffee. be back in 5 mins.  and ill help you tackle this. i will have a few questions like mentioned above. another one is what happens when you put the amd back in.
[12:38] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, After change graphic card, i remove MESA-UTILS and MESA-(som other packet) and after reboot and after login is black screen.
[12:40] <urgodfather> so you get a login screen?
[12:40] <juanonymous> Hi, how do i redirect this site from a domain that doesnt need the port included - madame.wtf:8888 - wanted it to be just madame.wtf / without typing the port number
[12:41] <urgodfather> juanonymous use your router
[12:41] <urgodfather> if local
[12:41] <urgodfather> or modifiy your host file
[12:41] <TomyWork> solderfumes, but this worked on 14.04 :/
[12:41] <TomyWork> with caching
[12:42] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, Yes. I have LM 19.1. I have login screen. After password is only black screen.
[12:42] <TomyWork> juanonymous, that depends heavily on the client software used to access that
[12:42] <solderfumes> of course, it will work if you stop treating .local as mDNS exclusive
[12:43] <TomyWork> juanonymous, so, what's the client?
[12:44] <TomyWork> for example if it's minecraft, you can set certain dns records to make it find the port
[12:44] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 sounds like your user profile is still trying to load inappropriate drivers or none at all. are you able to boot into recovery? are you able to force into command line? if one or the other you can use those to repair the user profile.
[12:45] <lyiriyah> hello
[12:45] <JohnGavr> lyiriyah, hello
[12:47] <lyiriyah> sorry, it's an issue with gnome
[12:47] <solderfumes> TomyWork: check `man 5 nm-settings`, it describes the connection.mdns property
[12:47] <solderfumes> you can set up the connection to stop using mdns with nmcli
[12:47] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, i am only basic level at LINUX. After login and having black screen i can CTRL+ALT+F1 and i have another screen without graphic X. Is this is some how helping?
[12:48] <TomyWork> solderfumes, still trying to figure out where to set that property
[12:48] <solderfumes> `nmcli connection modify Conn-Name connection.mdns no`
[12:48] <TomyWork> solderfumes, ideally i'd like to disable it globally, not just for whatever network-manager considers this connection :)
[12:49] <solderfumes> with nmcli, just bash your tab button until you get it to do what you want to do
[12:49] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 Ctrl + Alt + F1 is command line
[12:49] <urgodfather> you can see that login screen, yes?
[12:49] <solderfumes> TomyWork: the default can be changed probably
[12:50] <TomyWork> Error: invalid property 'mdns': 'mdns' not among [id, uuid, interface-name, type, permissions, autoconnect, autoconnect-priority, autoconnect-retries, timestamp, read-only, zone, master, slave-type, autoconnect-slaves, secondaries, gateway-ping-timeout, metered, lldp, stable-id, auth-retries].
[12:50] <TomyWork> houston, we have a problem
[12:50] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, Yes. I can log into my account but without graphic Cinamon X server.
[12:50] <TomyWork> nmcli connection modify Wired\ connection\ 1 connection.mdns no
[12:50] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 going to get that coffee now
[12:50] <urgodfather> brb
[12:52]  * solderfumes sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/jLnwBebQEeHoeSHnNIJNSmFO >
[12:52] <solderfumes> set it to 0
[12:52] <TomyWork> https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/unstable/settings-connection.html "This feature requires a plugin which supports mDNS"
[12:53] <solderfumes> and the systemd-resolve plugin supports mdns
[12:53] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, i know, i am a noob in LINUX, but don't give up on me, please. I need to fix my LM distro.
[12:54] <TomyWork> but apparently not that version of it
[12:54] <solderfumes> what version is this anyway?
[12:55] <TomyWork> kubuntu 18.04
[12:57] <solderfumes> at this point I think you shoud reconsider the possibility of disabling the loopback dns server on this connection
[12:58] <solderfumes> let your company's DNS server figure out what to do with .local addresses
[12:58] <solderfumes> then you can reenable avahi-daemon
[12:58] <TomyWork> "systemd-resolve whatever.local" says "whatever.local: resolve call failed: No appropriate name servers or networks for name found"
[13:01] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 im back
[13:02] <CITIZEN4> rgodfather, i know, i am a noob in LINUX, but don't give up on me, please. I need to fix my LM distro.
[13:02] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 i got ya
[13:02] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, Can U help fix that black screen?
[13:02] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 we all start somewhere
[13:03] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 so when you do ctrl + alt + f1 you get a login screen right?
[13:03] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, i start at NSA. (joke)
[13:03] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 log in
[13:05] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, And this is problem. I am now at this computer but second distro (POP os).
[13:06] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 im not following you
[13:06] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 did you install 2 versions of linux on top of each other?
[13:06] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: Are you running Pop OS?
[13:07] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, on Lm distro i cant log in. Install on second HDD drive POP OS to log chaT TO SOMONE HELP .
[13:09] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 you need to be able to access the ubuntu profile and chat at the same time
[13:09] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: what is "LM distro?
[13:09] <urgodfather> +1 leftyfb
[13:09]  * urgodfather would like to know this too
[13:09] <CITIZEN4> leftyfb, Yes i have second drive POP OS 19.04.
[13:10] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: what is "LM distro?
[13:10] <urgodfather> leftyfb i wonder if lm is mint
[13:10] <CITIZEN4> leftyfb, LM is LINUX MINT distro
[13:11] <leftyfb> !mint | CITIZEN4
[13:11] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 you will need to get help from the mint support channel
[13:11] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: we do not support Mint or Pop here. Please seek support from their respective support options. Good luck.
[13:12] <Oberon4278> So, I'm looking at Ubuntu's web page, and I see the "Ubuntu is an open source software operating system that runs from the desktop, to the cloud, to all your internet connected things" tagline
[13:12] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, Please, on other channel no one is respond to help me. If i log into LM 19.1 i can't run graphic interface and contact to anyone on HexChat.
[13:13] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: we do not support Mint or Pop here. Please seek support from their respective support options. Good luck.
[13:13] <Oberon4278> But more specifically, what separates Ubuntu from other distros?
[13:13] <OerHeks> sadly, mint has its own issues
[13:13] <leftyfb> !ot | Oberon4278
[13:13] <juanonymous> TomyWork: its znc webpanel
[13:13] <Oberon4278> That's off topic?
[13:13] <OerHeks> Oberon4278, the great community
[13:13] <guiverc2> CITIZEN4, if you were using Ubuntu or an official flavor of Ubuntu, we'd be happy to help you.
[13:13] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 unfortunately, i cannot help in HERE
[13:13] <urgodfather> respectively
[13:14] <leftyfb> Oberon4278: yes, your question is not a support question. Feel free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic. Or you could just give it a try and see for yourself if Ubuntu is right for you
[13:14] <guiverc2> Oberon4278, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:14] <Oberon4278> Huh, okay, cheers!
[13:14] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 join the appropriate channel
[13:15] <CITIZEN4> leftyfb, Guys please. LM 19 is basic UBUNTU 18.04. Please only help me run my distro on graphic interface.
[13:15] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: we do not support Mint or Pop here. Please seek support from their respective support options. Good luck.
[13:15] <leftyfb> CITIZEN4: install Ubuntu from http://ubuntu.com and we will help you
[13:15] <urgodfather> CITIZEN4 join the appropriate channel. dont get yourself booted and banned
[13:17] <CITIZEN4> leftyfb, But i can't run LM 19.1 because i can't run graphic interface. So how i find help if i can't run my original OD
[13:17] <OerHeks> CITIZEN4, , mint has its own issues
[13:17] <CITIZEN4> leftyfb, But i can't run LM 19.1 because i can't run graphic interface. So how i find help if i can't run my original OS?
[13:17] <OerHeks> stop it now
[13:18] <JohnGavr> CITIZEN4, check your pm...
[13:18] <urgodfather> OerHeks who was that directed at
[13:18] <urgodfather> +1 JohnGavr
[13:19] <CITIZEN4> urgodfather, So if i can't run my LM in graphic interface how to join HEXCHAT ?
[13:19] <JohnGavr> Wtf... CITIZEN4 i told you... check your personal messages
[13:19] <JohnGavr> i send you
[13:20] <TomyWork> solderfumes, uhm i just read that systemd-resolve can't be removed
[13:20] <TomyWork> in 18.04
[13:21] <solderfumes> you don't need to remove it, you can set NetworkManager to not use it. It will update /etc/resolv.conf with the proper LAN "nameserver" and "search" directives
[13:22] <TomyWork> how do i do that?
[13:22] <lyiriyah> i fixed this issue by removing resolv.conf and making a new one
[13:23] <TomyWork> that will completely break any automatism though
[13:23] <TomyWork> on a stationary computer that wouldn't be an issue, but this is a laptop :)
[13:24] <lyiriyah> it worked on my t430
[13:25] <TomyWork> did it work when you changed networks?
[13:25] <lyiriyah> yes it did, but it may differ
[13:25] <TomyWork> i dont want to use google dns or something
[13:25] <lyiriyah> i used 1.1.1.1
[13:26] <lyiriyah> but you can use anything
[13:26] <TomyWork> that would fall under "or something"
[13:26] <TomyWork> i can surely not use the company DNS at home
[13:26] <lyiriyah> one sec
[13:28] <lyiriyah> try following this: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/resolvconf-tutorial.html
[13:30] <tds> TomyWork: resolved should update /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf with a list of the nameservers its configured for, so in theory you could just swap the resolv.conf symlink to point at that
[13:31] <tds> though you will also need to remove the entry for resolve in nsswitch.conf to stop things using glibc's getaddrinfo etc querying resolved over dbus
[13:33] <furkan_> Hello, I have a project!  This is a survey for seeing how many people will get interested in the device  This is not spam! it's a real project and its really important to me so please take it seriously..  Here is a short description;  this device going to be a portable computer it's going to fit in your two hands like a Gameboy! you can use it with your two thumbs without moving your hand! The main focus of this device going to be c
[13:34] <furkan_> please visit the Google form in the address :slight_smile:  https://forms.gle/udY7qX1so4zPgqT39
[13:34] <OerHeks> furkan_, it is spam, not welcome here
[13:34] <OerHeks> nor on #freenode
[13:35] <urgodfather> furkan_ you may get better response if you post in reddit
[13:35] <furkan_> i did post it
[13:35] <furkan_> i got this answer -.-
[13:36] <furkan_> This post has been identified as self-posted content.  We've noticed that you're submitting your own original content. This isn't inherently a bad thing, but we do ask that you contribute more than just your own content to the subreddit as well as require you to interact with the comments of your submission. Additionally, surveys for your blog/news source/paper/own use are not allowed.
[13:36] <furkan_> a
[13:36] <OerHeks> furkan_, this channel is for ubuntu support, not for surveys
[13:36] <inad922> hello
[13:36] <inad922> Could someone tell me how can I install fzf on ubuntu?
[13:36] <furkan_> do you have any suggestions where should i share this ?
[13:37] <inad922> Is there like a repository where they have a deb file for this?
[13:37] <TomyWork> tds, i want to avoid messing with nsswitch.conf, since i'm not familiar with that file, with who generates it and i dont want to update it
[13:38] <OerHeks> inad922, looks like fzf is only available for disco and up, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fzf
[13:38] <guiverc2> inad922, what release are you using (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=fzf shows it's available for 19.04/19.10) only; so `sudo apt install` it if using them
[13:38] <guiverc2> (it's also in 'universe' so it'll need to be enabled if not already)
[13:39] <OerHeks> inad922, for older versions, there is no howto on github https://github.com/junegunn/fzf
[13:39] <urgodfather> lmao, they are telling him to just reinstalls
[13:40] <urgodfather> we could have done that and suggested using ubuntu in the process :D
[13:40] <inad922> Thanks, OerHeks, guiverc2 I'll just add universe then
[13:46] <TomyWork> solderfumes, oh this is odd... we have 2 subdomains under .local. let's call them a.company.local and b.company.local. my search domain is set to a.company.local. stuff in a.company.local works (now?), but i'm trying to resolve something in b.company.local
[13:50] <qwebirc4682> Hello, just looking for some quick help with an issue I can't seem to begin troubleshooting
[13:50] <qwebirc4682> When I'm using multiple monitors on ubuntu 18.04, even with all my gnome-tweaks turned off, I have this weird hanging of the mouse whenever I'm swiping down to the bottom of the screen
[13:50] <qwebirc4682> I've tried to google it but most of what I've found is "frozen cursor"/mouse not working which isn't the case here
[13:50] <qwebirc4682> The pointer acts like it hits a border or something for a second but moves left/right before finally passing it and going down
[13:52] <patstoms> is there any other service which do scheduling other than irqbalance?
[13:53] <sappheiros> thanks for the clarification, tomreyn. what's the typical ratio of terminal to GUI use for linux users?
[13:54] <tomreyn> sappheiros: i have no statistics. linux is historically primarily used on servers.
[13:55] <tomreyn> (headless, no gui)
[13:55] <tomreyn> patstoms: what's the issue you're trying to solve?
[13:56] <OerHeks> qwebirc install gnome-tweak-tool, that gives options for hot corners, and such
[13:56] <OerHeks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: is your graphics card driver installed correctly too?
[13:56] <solderfumes> TomyWork: that is the problem of the DNS, why the server can't lookup `b.company.local`
[13:57] <solderfumes> funny, how b.company is a valid global domain name
[13:57] <patstoms> tomreyn, i will try to explain with example - when i do this: watch -n 0.1 "ps  -o pid,psr -p $pid"
[13:58] <patstoms> i can see that process executes in different processor all the time because of scheduling
[13:58] <qwebirc4682> @OerHeks I have gnome teaks installed, and turning it off doesn't prevent the mouse hanging
[13:58] <patstoms> maybe someone knows what makes to do that?
[13:58] <qwebirc4682> lotuspsychje: I think so- I don't have this issue on my primary monitor
[13:59] <tomreyn> patstoms: this doesn't seem to describe an issue. is there anything misbehaving, broken, getting in the way?
[14:02] <qwebirc4682> the behavior went away for some reason... does anyone have ideas on how I'd troubleshoot it?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: feel free to share your dmesg
[14:04] <patstoms> tomreyn, no, i am asking just to understand
[14:04] <tomreyn> patstoms: what's the process you'r emonitoring?
[14:05] <qwebirc4682> lotusepsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MsVdyyTbft/
[14:06] <patstoms> tomreyn, whatever process which is open, for example i have tmux opened and i can see that for it's pid, psr field is changing all the time
[14:09] <tomreyn> patstoms: does this system have NUMA?  journalctl -b | grep NUMA
[14:11] <Guest44711> Hi
[14:13] <tomreyn> ... and does it have multiple CPUs?
[14:13] <tomreyn> ...and which ubuntu version is this?
[14:13] <urgodfather> Guest44711 hi! how can we help you?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: wich ubuntu release please?
[14:14] <qwebirc4682> 18.04.2 LTS
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: i found something similar here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1660619
[14:14] <TomyWork> solderfumes, the external DNS servers can look up everything fine. according to wireshark, they're never hit for b.company.local
[14:14] <TomyWork> i pretty thoroughly ruled out caching by now, too
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: there's a lot of those drm intel errors in your dmesg
[14:15] <TomyWork> i'm asking on #systemd right now, btw, trying to see if they have a solution
[14:16] <qwebirc4682> I'm not getting any slowdown/crashing as that thread suggests
[14:16] <solderfumes> TomyWork: so you can get the A record of b.company.local, but you can't access it?
[14:16] <qwebirc4682> Although I do use a laptop with both integrated & dedicated cards, I'm not sure why that would affect mouse movement past a certain part of the screen
[14:18] <qwebirc4682> lotuspsychje: I'll leave dmesg in follow mode and see if when the clipping thing happens if there's any specific output
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: uname -a && sudo lshw -C video pastebin plz?
[14:18] <OerHeks> qwebirc4682, ì have hot corners disabled too, only the top panel holds my mouse cursor for a second when i switch screens
[14:19] <TomyWork> solderfumes, i can "nslookup something.b.company.local $external_dns", but i can't "nslookup something.b.company.local"
[14:19] <TomyWork> solderfumes, but i can "nslookup something.a.company.local $external_dns" AND "nslookup something.a.company.local"
[14:19] <solderfumes> is your resolv.conf legacy yet?
[14:20] <TomyWork> what does that mean?
[14:20] <solderfumes> or are you still using a caching localhost dns server
[14:20] <TomyWork> it points to ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[14:20] <qwebirc4682> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95P59GRBG2/
[14:21] <TomyWork> i'm trying to find a solution before giving up and disabling caching
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: your card is an optimus, meaning its reccomended to use an nvidia driver instead of nouveau
[14:22] <solderfumes> I can't help you with that. In this environment I'd just disable caching altogether.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: this way you can set prime to performance mode or powersaving mode
[14:23] <qwebirc4682> I'm actually not sure why there's not a 3rd display listed there-
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: can you see what ubuntu-drivers list suggests?
[14:24] <qwebirc4682> I have my built in display, a smaller samsung monitor on my laptops hdmi, and a usb hub with the display having the weird mouse clipping issue
[14:24] <qwebirc4682> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver-390
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4682: ok mate, try to switch to the 390 and reboot, then compare your performance to before
[14:27] <qwebirc4682> alright- installing now
[14:40] <davido1> I can suspend just fine via lid close, but lid open or keyboard press doesn't resume. However, a brief press on the power button resumes fine.  X1 carbon, 6th gen, Ubuntu 19.04. Any thoughts?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> davido1: did you check if your bios is up to date?
[14:41] <davido1> Yes, it is. I updated it last week.
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> davido1: could you tail -f /var/log/syslog suspend and come back and pastebin us the output?
[14:43] <davido1> I suspect one of the values in /proc/acpi/wakeup needs toggling but can't deduce which. "LID" is *enabled
[14:44] <davido1> hm, maybe it needs to be s3 instead of s4
[14:49] <Church-> So question what would be the best way to upgrade from one LTS release to another? Looking to upgrade from 16.04LTS to 18.04
[14:49] <Church-> Is it still dist-upgrade? do-upgrade-release?
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Church-
[14:50] <Church-> lotuspsychje: Nifty, is that graphical only or is it wrapping a cli?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Church-: wich ubuntu flavour are you on currently?
[14:50] <popey_> you can do it graphically or in the command line
[14:51] <popey_> update-manager is the gui, do-release-upgrade is the command line way
[14:51] <Church-> Well installing a fresh UB16LTS and doing an upgrade to 18LTS. Trying to get some metrics in as I plan a migration at work.
[14:51] <tomreyn> if you want to make sure you know why and where it broke if it broke, use do-release-upgrade
[14:51] <Church-> popey_: So it is do-release-upgrade, cool.
[14:52] <Church-> I'm probably just going to do a wholesale migration but this will be good for customers who can't migrate to new hosts.
[14:52] <Church-> Thanks mates, ta'!
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Church-: that means you on ubuntu server?
[14:53] <Church-> Correct
[14:53] <tomreyn> Church-: while the upgrader doesn't enfore this, i'd always recommend you manually ppa-purge al PPAs before you upgrade, and examine forign packages and package versions, too.
[14:53] <tomreyn> *enforCe
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Church-: you might also take a look at the 18.04 server releasenotes then
[14:53] <Church-> Nod
[14:53] <cfhowlett> Church-/ also #ubuntu-server is a thing
[14:54] <Church-> Oh nifty.
[14:55] <Church-> tomreyn: So why purge ppas? Versions issues when upgrading?
[14:55] <Church-> The only ppas I have are nodesource for nodejs 10LTS and our own internal ppas
[14:55] <tomreyn> Church-: well, PPAs are unsupported, as a result, migration paths involving them are, too.
[14:56] <Church-> Nod
[14:57] <tomreyn> 3rd party repositories (incl. but not limited to PPAs) and packages (and package versions!) installed from there are probably the most common reasons ubuntu release upgrades fail.
[14:58] <Church-> Nod
[15:08] <davido1> I apologize, the cell tethering dropped me. Back now. I was discussing failure to resume on lid-open, but a power button brief press resumes just fine.
[15:08] <TomyWork> solderfumes, their solution is to add both subdomains as search domains :/
[15:08] <TomyWork> kind of a non-solution if you ask me
[15:11] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, I've only skimmed this conversation, but I don't see what's wrong with fixing your search domains?
[15:13] <urgodfather> davido1 sleep on lid close is a reoccuring issue. sometimes it's device specific. sometimes its not. you could do a couple of things to address it. check power management, check devices, force device that registers to sleep to stay on. sometimes this device goes to sleep too, which means no way to tell lid opened
[15:16] <OerHeks> pretty good blog about lid and suspend https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-close-lid-suspend/
[15:16] <OerHeks> for some the gnome-tweak-tool fixes it
[15:19] <davido1> In my case suspend happens fine, but resume requires a power button press. When it resumes, it has saved its state, so it's not a full power-cycle. I do wonder if the lid being set to S4 in /proc/acpi/wakeup might be too deep.
[15:24] <qwebirc18713> I ran do-release-upgrade and am getting the following: apt_pkg.Error: E:The value 'bionic' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[15:24] <cfhowlett> qwebirc18713/ what is your current version?
[15:24] <qwebirc18713> Trying to go from bionic to cosmic.
[15:24] <lordcirth_> qwebirc18713, are you fully up to date?
[15:25] <qwebirc18713> I was, yes.
[15:25] <cfhowlett> qwebirc18713/ and is your update settings "LTS" only?
[15:25] <OerHeks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # would tell
[15:27] <qwebirc18713> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBkF6bww8Q/
[15:28] <lordcirth_> So your sources have already been switched to cosmic
[15:28] <qwebirc18713> Yeah, seems that way.
[15:29] <qwebirc18713> Here is the original attempt: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hNjfGKMqyG/
[15:29] <davido1> I've reviewed the article at https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-close-lid-suspend. It addresses the issue of not going into suspend mode. I've got the opposite issue: Lid does take me to suspend mode. To get out of suspend, neither the keyboard nor the lid are strong enough; it requires a power button press, at which time I resume just fine, having not lost any state.
[15:29] <qwebirc18713> Looks like the sources were changed by that.
[15:30] <davido1> I suspect that possibly my LID entry in /proc/acpi/wakeup should not be set to S4, but should instead be set to S3.
[15:31] <OerHeks> qwebirc line 17, line20, line 24, line 26,27,28,29 .. all PPA's that should be disabled
[15:31] <OerHeks> non ubuntu ppa's that is.
[15:32] <OerHeks> i think launchpad ppa's can be disabled by the release upgrade tool, but foreign not
[15:32] <qwebirc18713> They all got disabled by that tool.
[15:33] <qwebirc18713> (unless I missed something)
[15:35] <OerHeks> still, your first paste says there is some source with bionic active
[15:35] <OerHeks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBkF6bww8Q/
[15:35] <OerHeks> run apt update again?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> if I had to guess, it would be a mixed sources.list
[15:37] <OerHeks> confusing is pasting a previous output, that is no longer valid
[15:38] <qwebirc18713> Yeah, sorry.
[15:38] <OerHeks> lets wait and see
[15:38] <qwebirc18713> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zQFZwPJTQH/
[15:38] <cfhowlett> y
[15:39] <qwebirc18713> I don't see any non-cosmic sources.
[15:39] <OerHeks> there is a different output; sudo apt-get update <> sudo apt update ..
[15:40] <qwebirc18713> yeah, I found that interesting as well.
[15:40] <qwebirc18713> No idea what it means.
[15:41] <OerHeks> what happens if you run: sudo apt install -f # or # sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:41] <qwebirc23633> So I swapped to the nvidia drivers and my computer is the slowest it's ever been
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: is your 390 active now?
[15:43] <qwebirc23633> I don't think anythings active now, my computer's having a stroke
[15:43] <qwebirc18713> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xTgnKtdfB7/
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: how much ram do you have there?
[15:44] <qwebirc23633> Yes the driver is Nvida, 12 gigs, ddr4 2133
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: ok, then somethings not right
[15:45] <qwebirc23633> IDK since the driver update I'm getting random spikes of lag and issues with chrome
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: check nvidia-settings to make sure your card is on performance mode?
[15:48] <qwebirc23633> I set it to performance but that doesn't explain why the driver caused the computer to struggle under light use
[15:49] <qwebirc23633> The onboard graphics alone should have been enough to load chrome and my email
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: yeah doesnt make sense, it should improve
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: you are not in nomodeset or something?
[15:49] <qwebirc18713> OerHeks: any other ideas?
[15:49] <qwebirc23633> there's potential for that
[15:49] <qwebirc23633> how would I check?
[15:50] <qwebirc23633> I had to use nomodeset for one of my past ubuntu installations because drivers where wonky
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: sudo lshw -C video or in dmesg
[15:50] <qwebirc23633> Don't know if it was this one
[15:50] <ioria> qwebirc18713, can you paste     grep -R  'APT::Default-Release'   /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*
[15:51] <qwebirc23633> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YpmqVSTb6w/
[15:51] <qwebirc23633> My gut says no- don't see nomode there
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: nvidia driver looks loaded yes
[15:52] <qwebirc23633> Setting to performance seems to have got rid of the lag but doesn't explain the issues
[15:52] <qwebirc18713> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dvkzhdjJdR/
[15:52] <qwebirc18713> Should I change that?
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: can you try to htop, see whats going high cpu there?
[15:52] <ioria> qwebirc18713, mv it to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu.back
[15:52] <qwebirc23633> JK having a stroke again
[15:53] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, my search domains aren't broken
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: wich kernel was you on again?
[15:53] <qwebirc23633> gnome shell is causing the most use from the looks of it
[15:54] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, If I understood correctly, you want short names in both a.something and b.something to resolve?
[15:54] <TomyWork> systemd-resolved just won't resolve any .local domains via DNS (as opposed to mDNS), unless they're part of a search domain
[15:54] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, no, i dont want short names to resolve against *.b.company.local
[15:54] <TomyWork> only against a
[15:55] <qwebirc18713> ioria: that worked (1447 packages can be upgraded), how do I finish the upgrade?
[15:55] <qwebirc23633> Linux hostname 4.15.0-48-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 3 08:28:49 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:55] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, ok, so if you set a.company.local as your search domain, what happens?
[15:55] <qwebirc18713> just run sudo apt upgrade?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: looks good
[15:55] <ioria> qwebirc18713, apt full-upgrade
[15:55] <qwebirc18713> do-release-upgrade says Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
[15:56] <qwebirc18713> ioria: ok, trying that
[15:56] <ioria> qwebirc18713, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: was this a clean install or upgrade?
[15:56] <qwebirc23633> This has been a clean install dual-boot for about 9 months now
[15:57] <qwebirc23633> I've been using it for work and experienced nothing but the weird hang until changing to the nvidia drivers
[15:58] <OerHeks> good find, ioria, learned something today :-)
[15:59] <ioria> OerHeks, but idk how he got in this situation
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: can you pastebin: systemd-analyze critical-chain
[15:59] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, i can resolve *.a.company.local both fully qualified and short, but i cannot resolve anything under *.b.company.local at all, even fully qualified
[16:00] <qwebirc23633> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZHg8m8JyB/
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: could it be your webmin lagging stuff?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !webmin
[16:01] <qwebirc23633> Nah- webmins been good without issues for going on 4 months
[16:02] <qwebirc23633> No lag/association with the mouse event I originally pointed out
[16:02] <qwebirc23633> I'm likely swapping off the nvidia driver shortly, because I can't even see the htop when it starts lagging
[16:02] <qwebirc23633> I'm on a i7-6500u so it's not like the computer doesn't have at least some power
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: a reason more, we need to search somewhere else
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: nvidia driver should at least perform better here
[16:03] <qwebirc23633> It's been explictly worse since reboot
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: i would start tweaking whole system
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: remove webmin, install preload, trim down unneeded services at boot, clean system with bleachbit
[16:05] <qwebirc23633> I hate to shoot advice down but webmin has not caused any issues in the past months I've used it, and I really haven't had issues (other than the mouse pointer) using the nov driver
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: you could also try the powersaving mode (intel) as a test
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: i know, but as i said an optimus card should use nvidia driver
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: can you share your new dmesg too plz?
[16:10] <qwebirc23633> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S3tN9zbw8r/
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[16:11] <qwebirc23633> Related information- when opening a new tab 1/3 times the lag spike happened, and nautilus/ gapplication was consuming a bunch of cpu
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: better uninstall gnome system monitor too
[16:11] <qwebirc23633> ...
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> apparmor flood
[16:12] <qwebirc23633> System monitor is a bundled application for new ubuntu installs for monitoring resources
[16:12] <qwebirc23633> I've had it running but I'll close it so that stops
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: this also doesnt sound too bright L1TF CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible. See CVE-2018-3646 and https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/l1tf.html for details.
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: you got other software installed beside webmin, with lets say external ppa's?
[16:15] <qwebirc23633> yes- i have a background rotator
[16:15] <qwebirc23633> variety
[16:16] <qwebirc23633> it's installation is recent/not related to the mouse issue
[16:16] <qwebirc23633> possibly one or two more give me a sec
[16:17] <qwebirc23633> Launchpad, postgresql, jamie cameron (variety), webmin
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: this is my personal opinion now, i would tweak down whole system to as vanilla possible
[16:21] <qwebirc23633> I appreciated the advice, don't get me wrong, I'm just at a lost for why any of these would be the issue- webmin has been installed for 4 or months and many of these utilities (outside the background software I installed monday) i use for work/where installed far after this weird mouse thing first occured
[16:22] <qwebirc23633> I understand the interest in understanding what I have setup and what could be causing issues, but none of the signs point to these packages afaik
[16:22] <JohnGavr> i am back :D
[16:22] <qwebirc23633> webmin is very lightweight and while not technically supported has provided no impact in usage of the computer, and instead many boons for managing it and the webservers I use for dev
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: an easy and quick method to see would also be try a liveusb 18.04.2, and compare with your current performance
[16:25] <qwebirc23633> I think i'll try that- I'm not big on dumping everything I had especially when the specific issue I was having occured before most of this was installed
[16:25] <qwebirc23633> I'm aware I don't have the cleanest linux install, it's just that until I swapped to the closed-source drivers for my card everything but the weird mouse border was fine
[16:27] <ioria> qwebirc23633, can't you reverse to open source ?
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> ioria: his performance was better on nouveau
[16:27] <epizefiri> Hola
[16:27] <lordcirth_> epizefiri, hi
[16:28] <ioria> lotuspsychje, what's what i meant
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> ioria: but that doesnt make sense on an optimus card
[16:28] <epizefiri> my webcam and my microphone stopped to work with ubuntu 19.10. What can i do? i've a well supported thinkpad.
[16:28] <qwebirc23633> yes- I intend to, I was just trying to be as helpful as I could to lotus on the offchance performance would be better and that the weird border issue would go away
[16:28] <lordcirth_> epizefiri, 19.10 isn't released yet. Do you mean 19.04?
[16:29] <qwebirc23633> I'm going to reset to the noveau driver and continue trying to figure it out from that end- I'm fairly sure it's not a driver issue, I'm thinking probably something with gnome
[16:29] <epizefiri> lordcirth_, sorry, 19.04
[16:29] <lordcirth_> epizefiri, and did you upgrade or reinstall? What was the previous version?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: gnome3 isnt very light in use, but with 12g ram it should at least go smooth
[16:30] <qwebirc23633> lotuspsychje: I appreciate the help- I know I ignored half your advice as far as the uninstalling of stuff, but I'm fairly confident in it's performance
[16:30] <ioria> qwebirc23633, read somewhere that mouse issues/freeze  on multimonitor setup are related to the dock (or the dash to dock ext)
[16:30] <qwebirc23633> It has been- until literally when I installed the nvidia driver
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: i dont mind, its your system
[16:31] <epizefiri> lordcirth_, i just upgraded from 18.10
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc23633: ah, do you have gnome extensions of any kind?
[16:31] <qwebirc23633> yeah it's not a mouse freeze, it's closer to the multi-monitor dock feature (mouse magnet i think?) but just in the middle of the screen some times
[16:31] <lordcirth_> epizefiri, do you have any 3rd party repos/PPAs?
[16:31] <qwebirc23633> currently I have all gnome extensions off
[16:31] <qwebirc23633> let me restart because these lag spikes are getting mad annoying
[16:31] <epizefiri> lordcirth_, just skype
[16:33] <ioria> qwebirc23633, https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/05/dual-monitor-fix-mouse-getting-stuck-on.html
[16:34] <qwebirc70132> God I registered my name but it keeps changing
[16:34] <qwebirc70132> Immediately better switching back to the open source drivers
[16:34] <qwebirc70132> I don't know what it is but that nvidia driver was murdering me
[16:35] <epizefiri> lordcirth_, in the audio settings looks like that the system doesn't see any microphone.. can i force a reindex of my audio devices?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc70132: <ioria> qwebirc23633, https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/05/dual-monitor-fix-mouse-getting-stuck-on.html
[16:36] <qwebirc70132> Unfortunately I don't have any more time at the moment to continue troubleshooting this as I've wasted too much time that should have been spent working- at the end of the day it's a minor inconvenience that's not exactly work stopping
[16:37] <ioria> qwebirc70132, just set the dock to be shown only on one monitor
[16:37] <awer> failing to locate the correct room - how can I grep out all lines form a file starting with either  '03/14/2019' or '03/13/2019'
[16:38] <ioria> qwebirc70132, i mean on the 'primary' monitor
[16:38] <qwebirc70132> The issue is not a left/right monitor getting stuck thing, although that occurs and I like it
[16:38] <qwebirc70132> It's at maybe 30% from the bottom of my screen the mousemagnet effect occurs
[16:38] <qwebirc70132> and my dock is set to bottom of screen
[16:39] <qwebirc70132> but this effect occurs even with dash on left
[16:39] <ioria> qwebirc70132,  do you have 'auto-hide' ?
[16:39] <qwebirc70132> Yes I do- toggling it does not get rid of the issue when present
[16:39] <ioria> qwebirc70132,  can you disable it ?
[16:40] <qwebirc70132> most of these articles where steps I was attempting- I even shut all extensions off and got the effect I'm describing
[16:40] <qwebirc70132> I can, yes, but the issue is currently not happening so I can't tell you if that fixes it or not
[16:41] <ioria> qwebirc70132,  i see ... and the logs are silent about it ?
[16:42] <qwebirc70132> When I reset to nvida and back it stopped happening, but I don't even know what logs would show that specific event
[16:42] <qwebirc70132> I'd been working with lotus to figure it out and they didn't see anything specific
[16:42] <ioria> qwebirc70132,  dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[16:42] <ioria> usually
[16:43] <fen-lu> Hallo Leute !!!
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> !de | fen-lu
[16:43] <qwebirc70132> Okay- when it starts happening again (if) I'll dmesg follow it and see if I can't see a specific event on collision
[16:45] <whitebyte> I have setup Kea DHCP on ubuntu-18.04 server and trying to set hostname for a client ubuntu 18.04 machine. The hostname is passed in the lease file provided by kea-dhcp server but that is not taking any effect on client machine.
[16:47] <OerHeks> whitebyte, how did youset the hostname on the client? hostnamectl status
[16:48] <whitebyte> I am not using hostname on the client. I am passing the hostname via DHCP lease.
[16:48] <ryuo> whitebyte: that would require support by the DHCP client. what are you using?
[16:48] <whitebyte> The client machine is rejecting the hostname from lease but accepting the IP
[16:49] <whitebyte> I am using Kea DHCP for server and DHCP client is default on Ubuntu18.04
[16:49] <ryuo> That tells us nothing. There's two different defaults. networkd and whatever NetworkManager users.
[16:49] <OerHeks> https://www.hiroom2.com/2018/05/30/ubuntu-1804-hostname-en/#sec-5 gives an example
[16:49] <ryuo> Which are you using?
[16:50] <ryuo> OerHeks: that's for manual. i think they are wanting an automatic solution.
[16:51] <ryuo> interesting.
[16:51] <ryuo> networkd's dhcp client should automatically do this. i guess the client is using something else.
[16:52] <plongshot> Does anyone know hot to changet the default location taht bluetuooth transfer files go to? Currently the system keeps creating a visible "Downloads" directory my home folder. I prefer my Downloads dir elsewhere and have it / had it that way.
[16:53] <plongshot> Every time I use bluetooth my directory tree is altered. yuck!
[16:53] <whitebyte> I am looking for an automated solution. Let me check what I am using for dhclient
[16:54] <ryuo> whitebyte: you're using dhclient.
[16:54] <hggdh> plongshot: under Settings you should have an option to setup/change the directories for personal use
[16:55] <ryuo> whitebyte: seems the only automated way to do this reliably is to use dhclient's hook system.
[16:55] <hggdh> plongshot: I do not remember how it is under Gnome
[16:55] <whitebyte> what is dhclient hook system?
[16:55] <ryuo> dhclhttps://nullcore.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/setting-the-system-hostname-from-dhcp-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:55] <ryuo> err
[16:55] <ryuo> whitebyte: https://nullcore.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/setting-the-system-hostname-from-dhcp-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:55] <ryuo> though you'll need to use the systemd method of changing the hostname.
[16:55] <ryuo> instead of what it does.
[16:56] <plongshot> hggdh: thx
[16:56] <plongshot> I found a 6 year old article on ubuntu forums but dunno if it applies to 18.04
[17:01] <qwebirc77134> Hello . What should I do to dual boot Linux alongside Windows 10 in a laptop with an Optane memory? I am having a lot of problems trying to do so...
[17:01] <qwebirc77134> The partitions are not displayed when trying to install from live USB.
[17:03] <OerHeks> qwerbirc sounds like you should start in UEFI mode
[17:03] <OerHeks> !uefi
[17:03] <whitebyte> @ryuo I will try this out, I have one more question. The DNS server is set to 127.0.0.1 by default in ubuntu 18.04. How can I fix it to use another nameserver?
[17:04] <whitebyte> even after chaning in /etc/resolv.conf the value is over-written after sometime
[17:04] <OerHeks> dns service listen at port 53, iirc
[17:04] <qwebirc77134> I tried to start in UEFI but gparted keeps showing error that not all sectors are used do you want to fix it? Also none of the partitions show up when trying to install even though they are shown in gparted after ignoring the warnings.
[17:08] <OerHeks> whitebyte, is this on the server with KEA, or the client that should recieve the dhcp/dns if set correctly?
[17:08] <plongshot> I dont' know the connections under the hood with ubuntu but is the location for the default directory for bluetooth file transers determined by something else in the system?  In other words, is it going off of some default setting for "Downloads" folder location and create the folder if ti down't exist?  If that is so then maybe I should look for a way to change the setting for the defalult "Downloads" location and the things the
[17:08] <plongshot> rely on it will  honor that?
[17:09] <whitebyte> client that should receive the dhcp/dns if set correctly @OerHeks.
[17:10] <whitebyte> Apparently if I use static IP using Netplan, DNS server and IP are set permanently but if DNS, Hostname assigned via DHCP it fails
[17:10] <OerHeks> whitebyte, that is why i wonder .. anyway, in /etc/resolv.conf it states that it will be overwritten by boot.. so do it like this,"Edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head"  https://datawookie.netlify.com/blog/2018/10/dns-on-ubuntu-18.04/
[17:11] <whitebyte> okay I will give resolvconf a shot
[17:12] <OerHeks> the clients networkmanager should be able too, ip/dhcp and static dns ..
[17:21] <whitebyte> If I see if netplan has lease, it prints it lease which has correct hostname, only hostname has not taken effect. Lease info: https://pastebin.com/g0zAA5c6
[18:03] <michaelsdunn1> hello, I have a question about logging tcpdump pcap files. I'm running tcpdump as root using a systemd service. The logs are being written to /var/log/tcpdump/. I'm running into an issue where the '-z gzip' command is running into permission issues.
[18:03] <michaelsdunn1> I've been able to get tcpdump to successfully archive by changing the apparmor settings from enforce to complain on /usr/sbin/tcpdump. Is this advisable? Is there any other way to get around the permissions issues?
[18:04] <michaelsdunn1> As a side note, if I'm logging to /tmp/ I don't have any issues with logging or archiving.
[18:04] <michaelsdunn1> I'm running 18.04.
[18:05] <pragomer> hi, I got a fresh new tuxedo infinity notebook 15 from tuxedocomputers that came with ubuntu 18.04.
[18:06] <pragomer> after login the keyboard backlight is on for about 10-20 seconds and then it turns off and cannot be turned on
[18:06] <pragomer> via fn keys
[18:06] <pragomer> any idea how to fix this?
[18:09] <SimonNL> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411163  pragomer
[18:09] <tomreyn> michaelsdunn1: you could maybe work around it by having tcpdump write to stdout and pipe that into gzip, then to the 'logfile'. but the proper workaround is probably to adjust the apparmor rule. i don't know how to, though. my guess is the issue is that tcpdump invokes gzip there which apparmor disn't except to happen.
[18:09] <SimonNL> see if that helps you out
[18:10] <SimonNL> pragomer: ^
[18:16] <pragomer> not really
[18:17] <michaelsdunn1> tomreyn: I think I can just use aa-complain /usr/sbin/tcpdump
[18:18] <michaelsdunn1> I'm just not sure of the security implications of such a change
[18:19] <tomreyn> well it no longer prevents things from happenening which would otherwise have been prevented form happening.
[18:19] <tomreyn> i.e. it only reports where a policy violation was detected.
[18:40] <nicky_> hi im new here, please tell me how to reg sudo
[18:40] <ayekat> "reg"?
[18:41] <nicky_> yes how to "reg" sudo, if i open something i got something like that
[18:42] <nicky_> like you have to reg sudo,??? and i dont know about that?
[18:42] <ayekat> I'm having issues understanding your problem - what do you mean with "reg"? that is not a word to my knowledge
[18:42] <ayekat> also what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:43] <SimonNL> nicky_: post  something like that on pasteservice and show link/url in here
[18:43] <lordcirth_> nicky_, please tell us exactly what you see.
[18:43] <nicky_> ok,
[18:48] <CamBan69> Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U GPU is still buggy under Ubuntu 19.04 :( [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring sdma0 timeout, signaled seq=74302, emitted seq=74304
[18:51] <nicky_> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[18:51] <nicky_> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[18:51] <nicky_> i mean like that and if open my app i see that agai in my terminal???
[18:53] <michaelsdunn1> tomreyn: thanks for the help.
[18:57] <OerHeks> generally a bad idea to run an app with sudo
[18:57] <nicky_> why???
[18:58] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:59] <nicky_> oke thx, my problem like that
[19:03] <ioria> nicky_, like what ?
[19:04] <nicky_> how to root sudo or su???
[19:05] <ioria> nicky_, why you need that ?
[19:05] <ioria> nicky_, i mean, ehat's your (real) problem ?
[19:06] <nicky_> i dont know if open app, i see problem like that, i dont know and im just newbe here,
[19:06] <ioria> nicky_, ok, what app ?
[19:07] <nicky_> really n_n,???!!!
[19:07] <nicky_> i dont know, but i forget that app
[19:07] <nicky_> im sorry,
[19:08] <lordcirth_> nicky_, we cannot help you if we don't know what the question is
[19:08] <LuckyMan> nicky_, describe extensivelly what you want to do
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[19:09] <nicky_> oke i can explain it
[19:21] <nicky_> yesterday i tried aircrack and tried to use the apk, it asked me to root sudo,???
[19:22] <lordcirth_> nicky_, apk? .apk's are for android?
[19:23] <nicky_> n
[19:23] <leftyfb> nicky_: This is Ubuntu support. You want #android
[19:24] <nicky_> really, ??? that my bad i dont know??? im newbie
[19:24] <leftyfb> nicky_: Ubuntu has nothing to do with Android.
[19:26] <nicky_> o, oke... i just want learn about computer, and my brother reecommend ubuntu
[19:26] <ayekat> leftyfb: given the amazing amount of orthographic and typo mistakes in their messages, I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt and assume they mistyped `apt`
[19:27] <leftyfb> !id | nicky_
[19:30] <ioria> nicky_,   can you run without errors this command from terminal :    sudo apt update
[19:31] <nicky_> ok
[19:33] <nicky_> that cmmnd  need a pass,
[19:33] <ioria> nicky_,  of course
[19:33] <hggdh> nicky_: it will be YOUR password, not root's
[19:33] <ayekat> !sudo | nicky_
[19:34] <ioria> nicky_,  run      id $USER | grep sudo
[19:35] <nicky_> okay, but if i tingling my pass in terminal, my qboard dont work???
[19:35] <ioria> nicky_,  define 'qboard' ?
[19:35] <ayekat> also 'tingling'
[19:35] <nicky_> yes,
[19:37] <ayekat> nicky_: (ok, I'm gonna make an assumption about what that just meant): password prompts do not show what you type - if you get the impression that "nothing happens when you type", that's totally normal
[19:38] <ayekat> what you type is still passed to the program asking the password (in this case sudo)
[19:38] <nicky_> oke, and i do what want and, like this PC:~$ id $USER | grap sudo
[19:38] <nicky_> Command 'grap' not found, but can be installed with:
[19:38] <nicky_> sudo apt install grap
[19:38] <nicky_> nicky@nicky-HP-430-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt install grap
[19:38] <nicky_> [sudo] password for nicky:
[19:39] <ioria> nicky_,  grep not grap
[19:39] <leftyfb> nicky_: you mistyped "grep"
[19:39] <ayekat> please type more carefully
[19:39] <CamBan69> wow
[19:39] <ayekat> both here in IRC and in your terminal
[19:40] <nicky_> oke, i try again...
[19:41] <nicky_> :~$ sudo apt instal grep
[19:41] <nicky_> [sudo] password for nicky:
[19:41] <ioria> no, my friend
[19:41] <Pici> grep is already installed
[19:42] <nicky_> n_n
[19:42] <ayekat> ... also it would be 'install' with two 'l' (please type carefully!)
[19:43] <nicky_> i dont how to tingling that and how to open irc,???
[19:44] <hggdh> tingling == typing ?
[19:44] <nicky_> yes typing
[19:45] <ayekat> nicky_: and 'how to open irc' - this *is* IRC here - we are communicating with you via IRC, this is the IRC channel for Ubuntu
[19:46] <nicky_> sorry i think irc lik he say is irc on the terminal
[19:48] <nicky_> how about kali linux? how to instal kali linux with usb,
[19:49] <nicky_> is there any apk like rufus in ubuntu???
[19:49] <OerHeks> nicky_, kali is not supported here, just ubuntu.
[19:50] <ayekat> nicky_: also, kali linux is certainly not the right distribution for you
[19:50] <OerHeks> and we use apt or snaps for software, not apk
[19:52] <nicky_> oke, i want learn ubuntu but i dont know where to buy or read that book?
[19:53] <nicky_> beacuse i dont trus internet, i mean hoax
[19:53] <sorokinvic> Hello! How can I revert files list in thunar in Dingo to style of Cuttlefish? I.e., striped rows and dotted lines btwn columns?
[19:58] <ayekat> nicky_: there is probably not a single resource that can teach you everything about ubuntu (or linux in general) - it's more about learning about the various components (e.g. sudo, in your case)
[19:58] <OerHeks> sorokinvic, reverse list, in right click > arrange items,... and the dotted lines, no clue
[19:59] <OerHeks> 'descending'
[19:59] <nicky_> ok
[20:00] <transhumanist> hi in ubuntu 19.04 how do i set the terminal scroll back lines for all shells opened under a user to infinite?
[20:06] <seven_hundred> Hello I have a noob question
[20:07] <OerHeks> transhumanist, terminal > preferenced > Unnamed > scrolling, and uncheck the limit line
[20:07] <transhumanist> menu option doesnt exist in 19.04
[20:07] <OerHeks> of you do that in your user env, it will stick
[20:07] <transhumanist> never done that is that a file?
[20:08] <transhumanist> or do you mean .bashrc?
[20:09] <transhumanist> ah never mind found it
[20:09] <transhumanist>  thanks
[20:09] <lordcirth_> seven_hundred, yes?
[20:10] <OerHeks> how does one tell it is a noob question.
[20:11] <gambl0r3> should i upgrade to ubuntu 19?
[20:12] <dax> gambl0r3: what are you currently on?
[20:12] <gambl0r3> kubuntu 18.10
[20:13]  * nullbyte_ is away: (automatically dead ) [BX-MsgLog Off]
[20:13]  * nullbyte_ is idle, automatically dead [bX(l/on p/on)]
[20:13] <dax> gambl0r3: then you're going to have to upgrade by July anyway
[20:14] <gambl0r3> dax, why
[20:14] <dax> gambl0r3: because non-LTS releases like 18.10 go end of life after 9 months
[20:14] <dax> gambl0r3: which is why we generally recommend people use LTS releases (ubuntu 18.04 is the current LTS, 20.04 will be the next one)
[20:14] <gambl0r3> dax, i see so my system will automatically upgrade itself in july?
[20:15] <dax> gambl0r3: no, but it's gonna poke you about doing it between now and then, and you lose security support in July if you don't upgrade
[20:15] <gambl0r3> so should i be using 18.04 and not 18.10?
[20:15] <dax> gambl0r3: yes, probably
[20:16] <gambl0r3> is it hard to downgrade to 18.04?
[20:16] <gambl0r3> im also using kubuntu
[20:16] <dax> we don't support downgrading, so i guess your best bet is to upgrade every six months until 20.04 and then stay on that
[20:20] <geekosaurus> I want to set up openvpn such that I can bind sockets to one ip-address for plain connections and another for tunneled connections. Does anyone have a guide for how to do this on ubuntu with netplan?
[20:32] <doo_mag_> hello
[20:32] <doo_mag_> sorry bye
[20:33] <compdoc> it is kinda scary in here, i admit
[21:14] <georgemp> Hi. I'm trying to use ufw and fail2ban on ubuntu 18.04. fail2ban seems to be making iptables entries and banning ip's. But, I still see repeated attempts from banned ip's againt my box. My iptables-save is at https://hastebin.com/adunoculuh.rb . If anybody can point me to why the f2b-asterisk rules aren't working, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks
[21:28]  * nullbyte_ is away: (automatically dead ) [BX-MsgLog Off]
[21:28]  * nullbyte_ is idle, automatically dead [bX(l/on p/on)]
[21:29] <dax> nullbyte_: turn that off, please
[21:37] <netameta> Is there a way to check how much of my HD is in use ?
[21:38] <davido1> df
[21:39] <davido1> netameta: df from the terminal. df -h for a more human readable look. Also in gnome there's gparted and 'disk usage analyzer'
[21:40] <netameta> Thanks
[21:41] <davido1> There are several concepts of HD usage. You could be asking how much space is allocated to partitions (and conversely, how much space hasn't been allocated, which could be allocated when you need it). The other aspect, which is the more common one, is how much space is available on a given partition. 'df' is useful for that.
[21:42] <OerHeks> !info baobab
[21:46] <sere_> My home backup script is not excluding ~/.q3a/ will someone please look at it and see why https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zzRZR44Dx4/
[21:47] <sere_> i dont see why it not excluding it
[21:57] <sere_> anyone?
[21:59] <OerHeks> try --exclude=/home/$USER/.q3a* \
[22:00] <sere_> i have but no luck with that either. i will try again though
[22:02] <sere_> is there a limit to excludes?
[22:04] <OerHeks> not sure, but there is --exclude-from=FILE     read exclude patterns from FILE
[22:05] <sere_> OerHeks: ok I will check that out. Thank you
[22:07] <qwebirc59490> Can anyone confirm the mythbuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso file works?
[22:07] <qwebirc59490> My MD5 checksum matches, but the image seems broken.
[22:10] <OerHeks> qwebirc what happens when you boot?
[22:11] <OerHeks> 16.04 was the last iso,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[22:12] <OerHeks> maybe worth looking into 16.04.6  .... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/16.04/release/mythbuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso
[22:13] <OerHeks> oke, here it boots fine in vbox.
[22:18] <EriC^> qwebirc59490: give more info get more answers
[22:18] <OerHeks> oh well, he can read back
[22:19] <OerHeks> tomorrow :-P
[22:21] <esaie> hi
[22:22] <EriC^> :D
[22:24] <qwebirc286> Okay this is pissing me off. I am trying to install ubuntu 18.04 on to two different dell r710s, but after install I get "error attempt to read outside of disk hd0". What could be causing this? I've tried installing usb and from disk. I've tried with lvm and no lvm. I've even rebuild the raids/replaced the drives.
[22:25] <qwebirc34366> oops, web client fell off.
[22:26] <SimonNL> no one spoke
[22:26] <qwebirc34366> mythbuntu-16.04.6  iso file won't mount, and when I burn it to disc, it's unreadable
[22:27] <qwebirc34366> is that the same file you checked OerHeks?
[22:27] <OerHeks> yes, v 16.04.6
[22:27] <qwebirc34366> well, that's weird.  maybe i'll just try and download again at work.
[22:27] <qwebirc34366> thanks
[22:29] <qwebirc286> I am trying to install ubuntu 18.04 on to two different dell r710s, but after install I get "error attempt to read outside of disk hd0". What could be causing this? I've tried installing usb and from disk. I've tried with lvm and no lvm. I've even rebuild the raids/replaced the drives.
[22:29] <AlexPortable> What is the name of the package that lets you select multiple entries from the terminal?
[22:30] <OerHeks> aacbbf07d707e2c4a6c6126986d5b1ae
[22:31] <OerHeks> qwebirc286, check the disk for defaults, remove mbr and write a fresh one, mbr or GPT
[22:31] <OerHeks> if an other OS partitioned it, or made free space, correct that?
[22:47] <Disaster_Area> anyone at all experienced using SQL server / T-SQL on ubuntu?
[22:48] <OerHeks> Disaster_Area, in #ubuntu-server many of us
[22:48] <Disaster_Area> excellent, I'll move myself over there
[22:57] <mmercer> what is the ubuntu command to see what package installed a given file?  ie:  /usr/local/bin/python3.4   <-- i want to see if someone compiled and installed, or if it was from a package i havent found the name of yet
[22:57] <mmercer> on rhel it would be rpm -qf python3.4 as an example
[22:59] <OerHeks> dpkg -L <package_name>
[23:00] <OerHeks> but python 3.4, sounds like an old ubuntu?
[23:00] <mmercer> OerHeks: that shows me the list of files provided by a package, doesnt it ?
[23:00] <mmercer> i want to see what package provided a given file (slightly different)
[23:00] <mmercer> ubuntu 16
[23:01] <mmercer> think its from a period of time when some of our engineers were doing things in a rather unfortunate way
[23:01] <OerHeks> oh, you want to search for any given file, where it belongs to?
[23:02] <OerHeks> dpkg -S /path/to/file if you have the package installed.
[23:02] <mmercer> OerHeks: perfect, ty
[23:02] <mmercer> so assuming it returns no path found for blahblah,  it would generally mean that it was installed through other means, yes ?
[23:03] <tomreyn> usually, but not always. sometimes files are also created by post install scripts,which can't be tracked back to the package this way
[23:04] <mmercer> tomreyn: sure, but in this case, if it works that way for 90% of the files from a package set, its safe to assume someone did a compile install xD
[23:04] <mmercer> okies, another image to rebuild.  sweet.
[23:04] <tomreyn> yes, probably fine if you don't need 100%
[23:05] <tomreyn> i doubt any ubuntu package installs anything to /usr/local/bin anyways
[23:05] <tomreyn> that'd feel wrong in FHS terms
[23:06] <mmercer> tomreyn: true, but there are a few ppas that do it, for instance, deadsnakes provides newer python packages for 16/18, and uses usr/local,  but those ones are at least queryable
[23:06] <mmercer> the ones im looking at are literal 'compiled' and 'installed'
[23:07] <tomreyn> looks like someone forgot to set a prefix when building.
[23:07] <mmercer> most likely,  its before my time here, so im just going to start it with a clean image and go from there
[23:09] <sere_> is .gconf important do I need to back it up when backing up home?
[23:09] <sere_> folder
[23:10] <tomreyn> some applications still use it to store their configurations.
[23:11] <tomreyn> find ~/.gconf/ -ls
[23:12] <sere_> tomreyn: ahh oh ok thanks
[23:13] <tomreyn> those would be gtk2 applications only. i see ekiga here, for example.
[23:14] <sere_> tomreyn: im really just trying to keep important config / datebase files for when i reinstall the whole OS. i dont really need to keep old gtk settings do it?
[23:15] <sere_> tomreyn:  although its only 188k :)
[23:16] <tomreyn> sere_: i can't decide this for you, cannot tell whether or not you still use gtk2 applications.
[23:16] <sere_> tomreyn: going to keep it to be safe. thanks
[23:16] <tomreyn> thats why i passed you the 'find' command so you could see for yourself when what was last written to
[23:17] <sere_> tomreyn: i still use banshee and afew others
[23:19] <tomreyn> so you identified software you still use stores its configurations there. then the next thing to decide is hether you need to retain these configurations or whether it'd be just as find to create them anew. some applications may just store boring data there such as window positions.
[23:21] <sere_> tomreyn:  ok thanks
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[23:59] <pizzaretaliation> hello, anyone have a moment to help an idiot with dual booting?