studiobot | <Eickmeyer> (New chat photo, 640x640) https://i.imgur.com/jYVJj6U.jpg | 00:25 |
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OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: dumb question time... If I start -controls for the first time (no rc file) and jack is already running by some means... what should -controls do? | 17:32 |
Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Without any interaction? | 17:33 |
OvenWerks | The default in the case of a config save is to save the default jack state which is stopped. | 17:34 |
OvenWerks | This will also stop jack (probably wrong) | 17:34 |
Eickmeyer | If it detects Jack is running, then it should make the RC keep that seting. | 17:34 |
Eickmeyer | That's just my opinion. | 17:34 |
OvenWerks | It would not be hard to set jack to True. but should it also say something about having started jack some other way? | 17:35 |
Eickmeyer | Perhaps. At least as a warning that a non-default setup was detected? | 17:36 |
OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: if someone started jack by commandline or qjackctl there is probably not a problem... cadence that is a problem | 17:36 |
OvenWerks | cadence is blacklisted so maybe not a problem. | 17:37 |
Eickmeyer | Yeah, cadence is also a conflict in the package. | 17:37 |
* OvenWerks just tried rm .config/autojackrc for the first time :) | 17:39 | |
Eickmeyer | Nice. Debugging for first-use, I take it. | 17:42 |
OvenWerks | Ya, I actually think it didn't check what I want to check... but realize what I wanted to check doesn't matter | 17:49 |
OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: now if the user has used -controls at least once and turned jack off and the next startup of -controls finds jack running... same thing? | 17:50 |
* OvenWerks thinks so | 17:51 | |
OvenWerks | I think that because the jack indicator shows jack is running, the saved value should be set that way. | 17:52 |
Eickmeyer[m] | I agree. I think if someone makes a change outside of Ubuntu Studio, it should warn them. | 17:52 |
Eickmeyer[m] | Rather, outside of -controls | 17:52 |
* Eickmeyer had ot jump over to Matrix for a screenshot of the shenanigans in #ubuntustudio | 17:53 | |
OvenWerks | warning may be added later | 17:54 |
OvenWerks | If the person starts -controls and finds jack is running, they can puzzle over how that may have happened... | 17:55 |
OvenWerks | :) | 17:55 |
Eickmeyer[m] | Right. We want this to be user-friendly, which means making sure they understand what their system is doing. | 17:56 |
Eickmeyer[m] | M_aD, OvenWerks : RE: that reddit post: I did a little bit of trimming of an old, outdated, and horribly written wiki article. And by a little trimming, I mean practically replaced the whole thing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 18:10 |
* OvenWerks has built a new -controls for people to break if possible. | 18:52 | |
OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: please take a look at the new jack status indicator. | 18:53 |
Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: updating now | 18:56 |
Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Looks like it's built but not published. I'll be waiting for paint to dry. | 19:00 |
Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: We have a problem. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5wcRw2Dg9d/ | 19:36 |
OvenWerks | which version OS? | 19:38 |
Eickmeyer | 19.04 | 19:39 |
OvenWerks | Ok | 19:39 |
OvenWerks | 18.04 here. | 19:39 |
Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: So, it won't start unless Jack is already running. | 19:44 |
OvenWerks | Can you stop jack after it is started? | 19:49 |
Eickmeyer | I could start Jack from qjackctl, and then start it. After that, I could stop it and start it. | 19:50 |
Eickmeyer | However, if I stopped it, closed it, and tried reopening it, it wouldn't reopen. | 19:50 |
OvenWerks | Ok, I don't think I have tried that :) | 19:50 |
Eickmeyer | Only workaround was to start Jack manually and then opening it. | 19:51 |
OvenWerks | nope, I need to fix it | 19:51 |
Eickmeyer | Okay. | 19:51 |
Eickmeyer | I have some errands to run. I should be back in a couple hours. | 19:51 |
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