| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL42f45a130b4f: Move chat switching near joining and leaving] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL42f45a130b4f | 00:09 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALff8a05f4379b: Add turst this executable] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALff8a05f4379b | 04:55 | |
| wxl | wtf i'm trying to play with bug 1827501 but when i do erase disk+encrypt it dies trying to look at smart status in vbox??? | 06:23 |
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| ubot93 | Bug 1827501 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "keyboard layout different changes during installation set-up and boot for de-encrypting unencrypting hard drive" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827501 | 06:23 |
| wxl | no problems with replace partition. bizarre | 06:23 |
| lubot | Imhofe was added by: Imhofe | 13:48 |
| teward | wxl: sounds like a VBox problem :P | 13:49 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: HEY YOU | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | hi | 13:50 |
| teward | tsimonq2: GDIAF | 13:50 |
| teward | um I mean | 13:50 |
| teward | hi | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | See Telegram PMs | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | You broke stuff | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 13:50 |
| kc2bez | I dislike VBox a little more with the latest release. | 13:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I dislike VBox a little more with the latest release.], why? | 14:27 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING46d568183eae: Drop patch] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING46d568183eae | 16:43 | |
| lubot | <teward001> @tsimonq2 @wxl main site is down | 16:47 |
| lubot | <brli7848> is it possible to bind the "lock screen" entry and shortcut to xsecurelock? | 17:10 |
| lubot | <brli7848> Should be easy? just edit the .desktop file and the shortcut text file? | 17:10 |
| lubot | <brli7848> btw, the power management part of "lock screen after ? min" seems to only recognize x11-screensaver, won't work with i3lock or other | 17:11 |
| wxl | !support | @brli7848 | 17:13 |
| ubot93 | @brli7848: For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram. | 17:13 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @HMollerCl [why?], The biggest issue for me is the display settings/drivers. They don't seem to work as well as they once did (at least for me). I think for the most part it is just me being grumpy about change. | 17:54 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2d1ee8be55f7: Add more detail for bulk rename] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2d1ee8be55f7 | 18:18 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7b427552c7c4: Split wall of text] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7b427552c7c4 | 18:25 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez do you have issues with ecnryption and keyboard layout? | 19:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> someone in the spanish channel is talking about that | 19:49 |
| kc2bez | In my tests, yes. See bug 1827501 | 19:49 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1827501 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "keyboard layout different changes during installation set-up and boot for de-encrypting unencrypting hard drive" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827501 | 19:49 |
| kc2bez | I tested budgie moments ago and didn't have an issue. Writing up my notes now for today's meeting. | 19:50 |
| tsimonq2 | That's something that didn't even cross my mind; GRUBbey keyboard layouts. | 19:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Sounds like fun. | 19:51 |
| kc2bez | yup, highlights the need for more diverse testing. not sure how we do that but... | 19:52 |
| tsimonq2 | Cool. | 19:52 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGINGdf565377caff: Updated debian/control] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGINGdf565377caff | 19:52 | |
| tsimonq2 | My guess is that it's a configuration thing. | 19:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Now, where do we find that configuration value... :P | 19:53 |
| kc2bez | seems to be the direction I am heading too. | 19:53 |
| kc2bez | Then we will need cala to set it. | 19:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Because we do update the GRUB config (although I'm told that's a Bad Idea, and we should look into fixing that for this cycle.) | 19:54 |
| kc2bez | I'm ears for how we set the config without updating it. | 19:55 |
| wxl | from what apt-ghetto was saying in the bug, it sounds like cala is going to implement a warning that the default for GRUB is american english | 20:02 |
| wxl | i.e. more or less throwing their hands up in the air and saying oh well nothing we can do | 20:02 |
| kc2bez | swell | 20:03 |
| wxl | but i didn't get too far into digging last night | 20:03 |
| wxl | also kc2bez did you notice there are now like 3 graphics drivers in vbox? | 20:03 |
| kc2bez | yes, the default one is the one that seems to have issues for me. If I switch to VboxSVGA, things work better but I forget to change the defaults sometimes. | 20:04 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @wxl [<wxl> from what apt-ghetto was saying in the bug, it sounds like cala is going t …], I intended to say, that calamares should warn the user about different passphrases: e.g. "qwertz" vs "qwerty" | 20:06 |
| kc2bez | Just me having a "get offa my lawn" moment I guess. XD | 20:06 |
| * wxl shrugs | 20:06 | |
| wxl | having options to me is really nice | 20:06 |
| kc2bez | It is, I need to get over myself :) | 20:07 |
| wxl | i think cala should have the option of displaying the password | 20:07 |
| kc2bez | Well cala respects the keyboard layout during the installation. It actually changes it in the live environment when you change it during installation. | 20:08 |
| wxl | yeah but the issue is grub, really | 20:09 |
| kc2bez | yeah | 20:09 |
| wxl | we could tell grub what the keyboard layout was if and only if /boot wasn't encrypted as that's where the info is | 20:09 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Cala would display the expected password, which is not necessary the same, as when you write it with the American layout | 20:09 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> If the /boot is not encrypted, Grub doesn't need a password | 20:09 |
| kc2bez | which is how the other flavors work | 20:10 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> So you have no layout problems, because you rarely write in the Grub shell | 20:10 |
| kc2bez | if you ever did get there it should repect what you chose for a layout though. | 20:10 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Another option would be an automatism, that saves the passphrase as it is, and a passphrase as it would be with the American layout | 20:11 |
| wxl | and grub-update to the right keyboard layout wouldn't fix anything because all that gets saved on /boot | 20:11 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfd6d85428059: Add bulk rename screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfd6d85428059 | 20:41 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I won't be able to come to the meeting tonight, sorry | 20:46 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @tsimonq2 I was playing a little bit with the CI. The lxqt-plugin should build now. I hope, that I had the permission to do it. | 20:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 I was playing a little bit with the CI. The lxqt-plugin should build n …], Sure, that's fine | 20:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ci/unstable is fair game for messing around with whatever you want :) | 20:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> What was the problem? | 20:47 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> In the first round, I dropped the patch … and in the second round, I changed the debian/control file | 20:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ok | 20:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Did you add changelog entries? | 20:47 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> For the first round, yes | 20:48 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> I will edit the changelog entry tomorrow | 20:48 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks! | 20:49 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> I go to bed now, so I am not partecipating at the meeting. … During the week, I commented on bug #1827501 and I am still learning C++. | 20:54 |
| lubot | <lynorian> sleep well @aptghetto | 20:55 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Thanks, I will read the messages in 6 hours. | 20:58 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> there is no calendar in phab now? | 20:59 |
| lubot | <lynorian> are translations up? | 21:01 |
| kc2bez | @HMollerCl the calendar is there but I don't think anyone has added the standup back. | 21:04 |
| lynorian | time for the standup? | 21:05 |
| kc2bez | !standup | 21:05 |
| ubot93 | @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting! | 21:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> o/ | 21:07 |
| lynorian | \o | 21:07 |
| kc2bez | We lost wxl | 21:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> /command !wxl | 21:09 |
| lubot | !wxl | 21:09 |
| kc2bez | @HMollerCL why don't you get us started :) | 21:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, I have nothing ne wto say | 21:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> more than testingt kvantum and is awesome | 21:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> qt5-style-kvantum | 21:10 |
| kc2bez | Cool. | 21:10 |
| lynorian | that is an icon theme right | 21:10 |
| lynorian | or a theme for qt | 21:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> nope, is something like a theme manager for qt | 21:10 |
| lynorian | ok | 21:10 |
| kc2bez | It is pretty neat. | 21:10 |
| kc2bez | Thanks for being here! Anything else? | 21:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @N0um3n0 talk me also about qt5ct but an env variable need to be change and I have not. | 21:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> nope, nothing new. | 21:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> btw, the encryption keyboard layout problem I mentioned, was a hw problem at the end. | 21:12 |
| lynorian | it was? | 21:13 |
| lynorian | bad keyboard? | 21:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> the one I mention | 21:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> not the one that @kc2bez was looking at | 21:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> *is | 21:13 |
| kc2bez | Thanks Hans, appreciate the update. | 21:13 |
| lynorian | I think I am next of the people here | 21:14 |
| kc2bez | sure take it away | 21:14 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> Hey here | 21:15 |
| lynorian | I have moved several things in the manual to their own section since I last checked in | 21:15 |
| kc2bez | Thanks @SamuelBanya we will get you in next. | 21:16 |
| lynorian | I did a ton on libreoffice impress background | 21:16 |
| lynorian | There are tons of new screenshots | 21:17 |
| kc2bez | screenshots are awesome! | 21:18 |
| lynorian | Added pitch adjust to vlc | 21:18 |
| lynorian | trash to noblenote to get a note back | 21:19 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> Sweet | 21:19 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> Did we ever add a full i3 install guide to the manual btw? Just wondering | 21:19 |
| lynorian | no have not gotten to that | 21:20 |
| lynorian | we do have how to change window manager in lxqt | 21:20 |
| lynorian | also how to deal with libreoffice crashing on restore | 21:21 |
| lynorian | home and end keyboard shortcuts to qpdfview is now in the manual | 21:21 |
| lynorian | how to compress a file from pcmanfm-qt | 21:22 |
| kc2bez | nice | 21:22 |
| lynorian | of course I have many more typos I have found in something this long | 21:22 |
| lynorian | reworked some network configuration in quassel that was not clear and somehow I did not have how to leave an irc channel which is now fixed | 21:23 |
| lynorian | not sure if I need to add in the things for an operator section for quassel will really be needed? | 21:23 |
| kc2bez | maybe a link to quassel docs for further info? | 21:24 |
| lynorian | I am not sure what is the current state of weblate As I got an email and so did @hmollerCl from someone in blegium on wnating translation | 21:25 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> I am not sure what is the current state of weblate As I got an email …], @tsimonq2 told me that weblate is not up. | 21:27 |
| lynorian | that is not good | 21:27 |
| lynorian | I added bulk rename and trusting executables to the manual for pcmanfm-qt as well | 21:27 |
| lynorian | I think that is it for this week from me | 21:30 |
| kc2bez | Thanks for all you do lynorian ! | 21:30 |
| kc2bez | @SamuelBanya you are next. | 21:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Thanks @lynorian | 21:31 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa503c007337a: Move file properties to its own parapgraph] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa503c007337a | 21:35 | |
| kc2bez | We might of lost Sam, he is probably on a train somewhere @SamuelBanya | 21:35 |
| kc2bez | Short paste from me: | 21:36 |
| kc2bez | We chatted about this earlier but for the record; | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | Confirmed bug 1827501 and commented. | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | Tested quickly this afternoon, Budgie honors the keyboard settings from the installer to unlock the drives. | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | Other flavors probably don't have this problem because we handle FDE differently. | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | The others don't have `/boot` encrypted so more of the system is available (i.e. the kernel unlocks the drive not Grub). | 21:37 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1827501 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "keyboard layout different changes during installation set-up and boot for de-encrypting unencrypting hard drive" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827501 | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | I couldn't replicate bug 1828201 and commented. | 21:37 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1828201 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "package management breaks when lubuntu-desktop sub-packages uninstalled" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828201 | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | That is all I have at the moment. | 21:37 |
| lynorian | thanks @kc2bez | 21:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks @kc2bez | 21:38 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian what about changing WM you mentioned earlier? Is there a deadline? | 21:39 |
| lynorian | no that has been in the manual a while | 21:40 |
| lynorian | not for default but as the settings | 21:40 |
| lynorian | someone has actually used that I think in irc a few weeks ago and it was not how wxl thought it was | 21:40 |
| lynorian | that was this https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.13/session_settings.html | 21:41 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mmm, I'm not understanding. | 21:41 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I once heard that for wayland we would need to change WM, is that what ypu mean? | 21:41 |
| lynorian | no for end users to change wm | 21:41 |
| lynorian | not for what we ship | 21:42 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> aaaa ok, now I get. Thanks | 21:42 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> Back | 21:43 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc0397cebc48d: Add file prop screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc0397cebc48d | 21:44 | |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> So yeah I'm actually gonna take a stab at packaging the gtk to qt even though it is c++ based I still want to give it a shot and not let anyone down | 21:44 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> I'm gonna need hand holding though | 21:44 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> I've been still trying to get in touch with Ubuntus dev team regarding the iso tester. I'm pretty sure I just have to modify the flavor and release variables but wish they would respond to help me out | 21:45 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> That's all from me | 21:45 |
| kc2bez | Thanks @SamuelBanya | 21:46 |
| lynorian | thanks @Sameulebanya | 21:47 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALef4f423b8de6: move first screenshot up] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALef4f423b8de6 | 22:03 | |
| wxl | sorry ya'll, work | 22:21 |
| wxl | anyone still around? | 22:21 |
| kc2bez | I am still here. | 22:22 |
| wxl | well i guess i could talk to you XD | 22:22 |
| kc2bez | Sure XD | 22:22 |
| wxl | ok well here's my list | 22:23 |
| wxl | * BUG TRIAGE | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Asked for more info and didn't quite get anywhere on a bug about input devices dying in Bionic: bug 1827734 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Triaged a bug about save dialogs not adding extensions: bug 1821433 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Unexpired a bug about prompts not showing up in terminals, asking for more info: bug 1819009 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * TASKS | 22:23 |
| wxl | * k3b missing everywhere: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T77 | 22:23 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] what is up with k3b?!: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T77 | 22:23 | |
| ubot93 | Bug 1827734 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Touchpad and Keyboard stop working on Lubuntu 18.04.2" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827734 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * TESTING | 22:23 |
| wxl | * COMMITS | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Added k3b to seed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDdd027bcf00bd | 22:23 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1821433 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu) "LXQt save dialogs don't automatically add file extensions" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821433 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * INFRASTRUCTURE | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Added a bunch of ubottu factoids (32bit, devel, offtopic, support, standup). | 22:23 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819009 | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Allowed /command on lubot for factoids, but bots can't trigger bots. Will try to work with IRCC. | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Updated the packaging tutorial requirements for `keychain` and `bzr`. | 22:23 |
| wxl | * Created an "Incoming" wiki page to track incoming upstream fetures: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/incoming/ | 22:23 |
| lynorian | thanks for fixing k3b | 22:24 |
| lynorian | and for the factiods | 22:24 |
| kc2bez | Is there a list of which factoids are available? | 22:25 |
| wxl | yeah well k3b is only partially fixed. @tsimonq2 said he was going to check on getting the fixed SRU'd or at least look into it. also i only changed the seed. i dno't know about lubuntu-meta itself. i asked but @tsimonq2 never answered........... | 22:26 |
| wxl | kc2bez: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | 22:26 |
| kc2bez | Thanks. | 22:27 |
| wxl | np | 22:27 |
| wxl | note that only ubuntu irc ops can make changes to them, so hit me up if you've got ideas | 22:27 |
| kc2bez | Sounds good. My question was more for my goldfish like memory. XD | 22:28 |
| wxl | heheh | 22:28 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Wxl: what about the fact that openbox doesn't work in Wayland? | 22:29 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl we've talked about that a bit and have some ideas but no solutions yet.. it will be bad for openbox though! | 22:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Openbox won't move to Wayland then? | 22:30 |
| wxl | doesn't seem like it | 22:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Is mir still the first choice? | 22:34 |
| wxl | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8miz1v/openbox_wayland/dzqq6j5/ | 22:34 |
| wxl | i'm not sure. to some degree i think we'll need to wait and see how the rest of the ubuntu ecosystems does things | 22:35 |
| wxl | fwiw kubuntu's last release had an experimental and not fully functional wayland session | 22:35 |
| wxl | that said we're not too behind | 22:36 |
| wxl | if youw ant to talk wayland, DrewRWx is the person you want to speak with | 22:36 |
| wxl | there's this https://github.com/wizbright/waybox | 22:37 |
| wxl | oops i did not mean DrewRWx unless that's another alias he has for himself.. i meant ddevault is the person to talk to re: wayland | 22:39 |
| ddevault | wmww is probably the person to talk to | 22:40 |
| wxl | yeah he's pretty rad | 22:40 |
| wxl | he's the guy i saw at lfnw running wayland on a watch XD | 22:40 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Ok thanks for the info | 22:41 |
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