[00:01] <pizzaretaliation> Running a Windows box but I've been itching to use Ubuntu again for a while. Still tied to Windows for video games. Considering just wiping the hard drive and installing both operating systems. I remember I tried doing this before and goofed it up. Is it better to install Windows first and then Ubuntu to have GRUB take over booting?
[00:02] <tomreyn> pizzaretaliation: you're welways welcome to just ask your question if it's ubuntu related here.
[00:03] <tomreyn> you're right, doing the windows installation first, the ubuntuinstallation second, is what we usually recommend here for dual-boot setups.
[00:04] <pizzaretaliation> Should I partition during install (I'm going to split the hard drive storage half for Windows half for Linux), or just do a full Windows install then let Ubuntu handle the partitioning?
[00:06] <OerHeks> guides say let windows make free space
[00:06] <tomreyn> the ubuntu installer can resize an existing windows installation to make room for the ubuntu installation, so it doesn't really matter. also, partitioning yourself always bears the risk of doing it improperly / non-ideal.
[00:06] <pizzaretaliation> OK thanks gang
[00:07] <tomreyn> if you'll reinstall all OSes this is a good opportunity to switch to UEFI booting if you didn't do that already.
[00:07] <pizzaretaliation> So Ubuntu handles UEFI now? I clearly haven't done this in a long time XD
[00:07] <OerHeks> !uefi
[00:09] <tomreyn> in BIOS, set a sata mode of AHCI, not RAID. make sure you don't change any bios settings between the two installations, only do a one-time override of the boot location so you can boot the ubuntu installer from usb
[00:10] <tomreyn> (there are situations where people inadvertantly installed the two OSes in different boot modes by switching from uefi to bios boot mode between those installations)
[00:16] <standardmodel> Looking for help displaying emojis in librewriter and non-gtx apps. Should i post an imgur link of an example?
[00:20] <tomreyn> pizzaretaliation: note that there are other options to dual booting (but this is still young and a bit complex to configure and may not always work reliably): https://heiko-sieger.info/linux-virtual-gaming-machine/
[00:21] <Tin_man> standardmodel, this is what I found >> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/136210/emojis-in-writer/
[00:23] <standardmodel> hi tin man. A lot of my emojis are deads and gone from "Special Characters" https://i.stack.imgur.com/xuw79.png
[00:24] <Tin_man> i don't follow them.. :) just trying to help..
[00:25] <standardmodel> thx. I have an askubuntu post up, so i'll just wait. Enjoy the day.
[00:31] <tomreyn> standardmodel: to me this looks like you just don't have a font installed which can display these
[00:33] <tomreyn> my autocorrect screen looks a lot different than yours, i have basically no boxes on the right, just emojis.
[00:33] <tomreyn> 18.04 lts
[00:58] <darthrocker> anyone having probs with r8822be?
[00:59] <kjwehf> Is it dangerous to put "%admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/wg-quick" in my sudoers file?
[00:59] <darthrocker> yes
[01:00] <darthrocker> anytime NOPASSWD on %admin is always dangerous
[01:01] <kjwehf> oh right, I wanted a wireguard icon on my bar and the script said to do that
[01:01] <darthrocker> I am not familiar with wiregaurd..
[01:02] <kjwehf> just the new openvpn
[01:04] <tds> kjwehf: wg-quick allows for arbitrary post-up hooks, so probably
[01:05] <kjwehf> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/matryer/bitbar-plugins/master/Network/wireguard.sh
[01:05] <kjwehf> thats the script its used in
[01:05] <kjwehf> its only a small one
[01:09] <standardmodel> `ttf-ancient-fonts` brought all emojis back to Librewriter.
[01:14] <sere_> anyone know why my backup script is replacing the old one and not making a new one "tar -cvzf $DESTINATION $EXCLUDES $SOURCEFOLDER"
[01:16] <xamithan> Probably because the filename is the same,  are you not timestamping it
[01:17] <sere_> xamithan: only with the date but i will fix that.. thanks
[01:19] <darthrocker> i just upgraded (via clean install) to 5.0.0-13 on Lenovo Legion Y530 and my wifi card doesnt work. I have tried blacklisting (which didnt work in 18.04 either, but "rmmod ideapad_laptop" did.
[01:19] <davido> Is it possible to change the S4 value to S3 for a device enabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup?
[01:20] <pipegeek> question: is there any way to temporarily unmount all snaps?
[01:20] <pipegeek> I'd like to move /var/lib/snapd to another partition
[01:20] <pipegeek> and bind-mount it back
[01:21] <davido> I know that I can enable / disable a device by 'echo DEVNAME >/proc/acpi/wakeup where DEVNAME is the device. But rather than enable/disable, I want to change the power state from S4 to S3.
[01:21] <pipegeek> but doing service snapd stop doesn't seem to actually unmount anything
[01:22] <pipegeek> I suppose I could just explicitly unmount them
[01:22] <darthrocker> https://pastebin.com/12baPP6k
[01:23] <pipegeek> but I'm not sure what other resources in /var/lib/snapd are in use
[01:31] <davido> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K2kCpMdZSZ/ << The question is how to change the S4 value there to S3
[01:33] <davido> OR, alternatively, how to make an open LID event resume from S4 (currently it seems to require a power button press to resume)
[01:35] <transhumanist> hi I probably already know its bad news but I am forced to downgrade from 19.04 to 18.04 and try and preserve home directory is this likely to end badly?
[01:36] <guiverc> transhumanist, i would suggest installing 18.04 with 'something else', selecting your partitions & not format.  it'll take note of your added apps, erase your system dirs & install, then re-install added apps (esp. ubuntu repo ones) & doesn't touch $HOME
[01:38] <transhumanist> ok thats what I was planning
[01:39] <transhumanist> thanks here goes nothing
[01:59] <sam_> hello
[01:59] <sam_> well
[02:00] <sam_> it is good
[02:00] <sam_> i am sam
[02:03] <r1nt3c> Do you use livepatch? > all
[02:41] <DixieNormous> anyone available for a wuick look over some bash - http://freetexthost.com/ki4hnyzfv5 - It always reports good key, even when pgp outputs a non existent key warning
[02:53] <activist> hi guys. i am looking for an app which shows current connections like TCPView in Windows. I found some but they are not available Ubuntu's current repo list and i want to be stick with Ubuntu's default repo. Thanks a lot.
[03:06] <Dixie_Normous> Anyone free to see why I always get a else result on my if statement. Sorry for the noob question https://pastebin.com/Mh4WNVUg
[03:14] <Ouyes> Dixie_Normous, just a moment
[03:15] <Ouyes> Dixie_Normous, sorry, I cannot read that code
[03:17] <Dixie_Normous> Ouyes, im a noob. Is that the reason or is there another reason?
[03:18] <Ouyes> Dixie_Normous, I mean I am not capable to read that code. you may ask your question another place.
[03:19] <mruffell> Dixie_Normous: your if statement has a '=', when it needs to have a '==' instead
[03:20] <Dixie_Normous> Thank you both for your input. Very helpful and much appreciated
[03:22] <disillusion> I accidentally copied a directory larger than the partition on a usb hard drive. I used the "cp" command in the terminal to do it. But it just hung there when the partition was full, so I rebooted the machine. Now dmesg and kern.log recognize the usb device, but I can't access the actual drive.
[03:22] <disillusion> Did rebooting brick the hard drive?
[03:23] <DixieNormous> Mruffell, it seems to be giving the same issue!! https://imgur.com/SnatlbX - If you have the time, would you mind looking over it
[03:23] <disillusion> fdisk doesn't see the hard drive at all anymore.
[03:25] <mruffell> DixieNormous: try -eq instead of '=='
[03:25] <mruffell> DixieNormous: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
[03:26] <DixieNormous> mrfuffle - https://imgur.com/2NxlSKK
[03:27] <disillusion> I'm now wondering if Ubuntu is at fault for not knowing how to handle a situation in which a directory is copied to a partition that's smaller than the directory to be copied. It just hangs, but interfering bricks the usb hard drive, so rebooting or shutting down the machine bricks the usb hard drive.
[03:27] <DixieNormous> mrfuffle - That has got me one step closer - Any ideas? https://imgur.com/eBlbWHZ
[03:28] <DixieNormous> mruffle - That has got me one step closer - Any ideas? https://imgur.com/eBlbWHZ
[03:28] <DixieNormous> mrufflle - That has got me one step closer - Any ideas? https://imgur.com/eBlbWHZ
[03:33] <krytarik> !tab
[03:49] <karrot2> am I in here?
[03:49] <karrot2> I guess I am
[03:50] <DixieNormous> Karrot2, yes you are!
[03:50] <karrot2> lol, thank you
[03:50] <karrot2> my computer was going wonky for a moment
[03:52] <horribleapps> karrot2: twilight zone?
[03:52] <karrot2> horribleapps: I wish, that'd be fun:)
[03:53] <DixieNormous> karrot2 - Just dropped you a line!!
[03:54] <stevendale> Hey
[03:54] <stevendale> !offtopic
[03:55] <DixieNormous> Hey stevendale - Please tell me thats not your real name?
[03:55] <stevendale> It is my real name
[03:56] <DixieNormous> Fair play, you dont mind using it in the IRC world?
[03:56] <activist> hi guys
[03:56] <DixieNormous> Activist, hello
[03:56] <activist> what's up?
[03:56] <DixieNormous> All good my friend, How goes you?
[03:57] <activist> All good in here too.
[03:57] <stevendale> DixieNormous, I don't see the point in providing a fake identity, plus, I'd like to meet up with some people on IRC later in my life, but this is better suited for more social channels such as #ubuntu-offtopic, though I'm usually in ##linuxmint instead because the owner there is a good friend of mine who helped me through tough times
[03:57] <activist> I have a request. Can someone invite me to #linux?
[03:58] <stevendale> activist, No.
[03:58] <stevendale> Join ##linux instead
[03:58] <DixieNormous> @stevendale I guess i cant argue with that!
[03:58] <activist> may i ask why no?
[03:58] <stevendale> activist, Because it's an invite only channel, you don't get VIP access just because you're on a public IRC network
[03:59] <krytarik> activist: #linux merely forwards to ##linux
[03:59] <DixieNormous> For the record, im new to IRC (despite its age) - Is there any security or operational bits that i should be aware of?
[03:59] <stevendale> DixieNormous: Yes
[03:59] <stevendale> Don't use out of date IRC Clients
[03:59] <stevendale> And don't connect using Windows 9x computers
[04:00] <activist> krytarik are you in #linux?
[04:00] <krytarik> Nope.
[04:00] <dax> nobody is in #linux. it forwards to ##linux.
[04:00] <activist> thanks dax
[04:01] <krytarik> Yes, thanks dax! >_<
[04:01] <activist> krytarik where are you from?
[04:01] <stevendale> What's the status on 32-bit Ubuntu support?
[04:01] <dax> oh, right, and ##linux bans tor-sasl. that's inconvenient.
[04:02] <stevendale> dax, and Freenode bans Mibbit
[04:02] <stevendale> Which makes connecting on a 3DS a pain without homebrew menu :(
[04:02] <DixieNormous> stevendale - Im 64bit totally updated Ubuntu with a hardware firewall, software firewall and always using a VPN - Should this cover the bases?
[04:02] <activist> I can't understand Tor Browser is built from Mozilla but irc.mozilla.org is blocking Tor :)
[04:03] <activist> Brother hates brother
[04:03] <stevendale> DixieNormous: That's good enough, if you keep your Ubuntu up to date you won't even need the VPN or software firewall
[04:03] <DixieNormous> Stevedale: is there no risk of exposing my true IP?
[04:03] <DixieNormous> FYI running HexChat
[04:04] <stevendale> DixieNormous, without the VPN, your true IP will display, yes, you can always request a cloak, dax could help you get one of those if you join #freenode
[04:04] <dax> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks#cloaks-do-not-effectively-hide-your-ip
[04:04] <stevendale> A cloak doesn't completely hide it, it just makes it harder for anyone who doesn't know how to IRC properly to find it
[04:04] <dax> (also, you probably want to drop by #freenode for this)
[04:07] <stevendale> (Just updating my last seen)
[04:07] <disillusion> I ruined my external usb hard drive by copying over a directory that's larger than the partition on the usb drive, so what tools can I use to repair this usb hard drive? I'm thinking something like dd but "zeroing" it isn't working, since it says, "no space left on device".
[04:07] <DixieNormous> stevendale - I auto connect to VPN on login so i guess i have no reason for a cloak? or is it worth the research?
[04:07] <stevendale> did you copy the data or cut it disillusion
[04:07] <disillusion> (I rebooted while it hung as the partition was full. This appears to have wrecked by usb drive)
[04:08] <stevendale> DixieNormous, you should probably join #freenode like dax suggested, it's becoming a freenode problem not a Ubuntu problem
[04:08] <disillusion> stevendale, I used the "cp" command in the terminal.
[04:08] <stevendale> disillusion, is the drive still mounted?
[04:08] <DixieNormous> Apologies, thank you for your patience friendly internet people!!
[04:08] <disillusion> stevendale, fdisk and gparted no longer see the usb drive at all.
[04:09] <stevendale> disillusion, power cycle your computer and check to see if the "lsblk" command sees it
[04:09] <disillusion> dmesg and kern.log can see when it gets plugged in and out, and describe it accurately, but the hard drive part doesn't show up anymore.
[04:09] <disillusion> stevendale, I've rebooted and powered down. Still the same.
[04:10] <disillusion> stevendale, due the the partition being full, it just hung on the "cp" command indefinitely, I couldn't unmount the partition. I rebooted and now it appears the drive is worthless.
[04:10] <ScriptGeek> I installed Quassel and tried to configure it, but it displays errors saying  "Unable to create Quassel config directory: /root/.config/quassel-irc.org". Any ideas on how to get Quassel to be configured?
[04:11] <disillusion> stevendale, it appears to me that Ubuntu isn't designed to handle a situation in which the copied directory is larger than the partition.
[04:11] <stevendale> ScriptGeek, don't run as root
[04:11] <stevendale> disillusion I'm pretty sure that's a cp problem not a Ubuntu problem
[04:12] <stevendale> Nautilus (Files) would have done it correctly
[04:12] <disillusion> stevendale, oh yes it could be a problem with "cp", I should correct that.
[04:12] <DixieNormous> Switched to #freenode - thanks to all those who offered advice on the ubuntu front
[04:12] <stevendale> No problem DixieNormous ^.^
[04:13] <stevendale> disillusion USB external hard drive, correct?
[04:13] <stevendale> It's probably fixable if you connect it directly to an internal hard drive cable on a desktop PC
[04:14] <disillusion> stevendale, yes. I tried to copy a directory from my system to the usb hard drive, but accidentally copied to a small partition, one smaller than the data to be copied. It just hung once full, so I rebooted.
[04:14] <disillusion> It appears that rebooting while cp hangs when the partition is full makes the drive unusable.
[04:15] <xamithan> Did you try to use a livecd
[04:15] <disillusion> I tried to zero it will dd but even dd returns the error message "no space left on device".
[04:16] <disillusion> xamithan, I haven't tried that yet, but maybe a different OS can recognize it correctly.
[04:16] <ScriptGeek> stevendale: I tried setting the configuration to run as the service account that was created for the service as it still gives the same error
[04:17] <stevendale> disillusion GParted Live might work
[04:17] <stevendale> ScriptGeek: You'll have to delete the configuration in the root directory then run Quassel as non-root to get it to create new config
[04:18] <disillusion> But I'm very discouraged by the fact that fdisk cannot see the usb drive either.
[04:18] <disillusion> What other partition editors are there besides fdisk and parted?
[04:19] <stevendale> gnome disks
[04:19] <stevendale> gdisk
[04:19] <ScriptGeek> stevendale: I'm not sure how I can do that, as the service was installed through the package manager and configured automatically, with apparently some incorrect settings
[04:20] <stevendale> cfdisk
[04:26] <disillusion> It's just hanging with gdisk.
[04:27] <disillusion> It just gave errors:
[04:27] <disillusion> Problem reading disk in BasicMBRData::ReadMBRData()!
[04:27] <disillusion> Warning! Read error 22; strange behavior now likely!
[04:30] <disillusion> actually, it looks like I can do stuff with gdisk. I'll keep trying with that and see what happens.
[04:31] <stevendale> disillusion What dd command did you run
[04:32] <disillusion> the usual zeroing command, which is: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc
[04:32] <stevendale> Ah
[04:32] <stevendale> So your data is gone
[04:32] <stevendale> You need a new partition table disillusion
[04:33] <disillusion> I don't care if it's gone. This is a new usb hard drive that I want to backup data onto.
[04:33] <disillusion> stevendale, well then that's good news because I can just start the whole thing over again.
[04:33] <disillusion> stevendale, but then how come gparted can't see it anymore, when I just used it earlier to partition the drive?
[04:33] <stevendale> I'm not sure
[04:34] <disillusion> but as I've said, gdisk is able to do stuff, so I'm trying that. I'll have to see what it can do and how to use it first.
[04:34] <disillusion> it sees the disk
[04:43] <ScriptGeek> sudo -u quasselcore -s  results in permission denied
[04:49] <krytarik> ScriptGeek: I think you'll have better luck in #quassel with that.
[04:50] <ScriptGeek> krytarik: thanks
[05:01] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: what did ya think, ubuntu still continues to check for updates even when "check for updates" is set to never AND unattended-upgrades package is removed
[05:02] <Apachez> ubuntu turns more and more into a malware ignoring the admins settings :S
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: it was not me reccomending to purge unattended-upgrades
[05:03] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: well it didnt help anyway
[05:03] <Apachez> so how to find out why ubuntu ignores "check for updates: never" in the software and updates?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: what you want, is just not in line with how ubuntu works
[05:04] <activist> does someone have knowledge about Kodachi?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: when updates come, you should install it
[05:06] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: but I dont want my ubuntu to phone home
[05:07] <Apachez> why does it ignore setting "Automatically check for updates: Never" ?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: i already told you, there's a difference between updates & security updates
[05:08] <Apachez> and I already told you, if I set it to NEVER to check for any updates, why does it still (like a malware) continue to do so?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: whats the real reason you dont want updates?
[05:16] <hggdh> Apachez: if, indeed, updates are still checked even when you set it *not* to, then the best option is to open a bug on it. This is the only way it will be fixed.
[05:16] <hggdh> Apachez: ranting about it here will not help any
[05:18] <hggdh> Apachez: as an aside, checking for updates is NOT, by a long shot "phoning home".
[05:19] <bryanroderyck> hello ubuntu , im using a ubuntu 16.04 but i want to upgrade to 18.04 but but im afraid my cpu overheat are there something to check before
[05:22] <Kendos-Kenlen> bryanroderyck well you can try with a live CD. But you probably should investigate why you CPU is overheating (hardware side I mean).
[05:22] <Kendos-Kenlen> bryanroderyck Ubuntu 18.04 does not really require more CPU power so if you CPU is correct, there is no reason you'll have issues.
[05:23] <bryanroderyck> it only overheat on 64bit ..is there a way to check
[05:24] <Kendos-Kenlen> bryanroderyck What do you want to check ?
[05:24] <bryanroderyck> my cpu architecture
[05:25] <guiverc> bryanroderyck, i would be tempted to check for bad settings in your BIOS; an option that keeps noise down (allowing machine to overheat by stopping fan from speeding up)
[05:25] <Kendos-Kenlen> bryanroderyck uname -i will give you your hardware architecture.
[05:26] <Kendos-Kenlen> BTW, which channel is recommended to ask help for making packages? I have few questions regarding bundling a GPG key in the package (rather than calling apt-key from the postinst)
[05:28] <hggdh> Kendos-Kenlen: #ubuntu-packaging, #ubuntu-motu, #ubuntu-devel are good candidates
[05:32] <Kendos-Kenlen> hggdh thank you :)
[05:56] <bryanroderyck> can i upgrade my ubuntu  16.04 on my latop to a 18.04 version on a dvd?
[05:57] <TomyWork> i tried to install a package but there were conflicts. now it's in state "in", according to dpkg -l, implying that i desire to install it, but that it's not installed. How do i get that thing out of the system? dpkg --purge only got it to "un", i.e. desired=unknown, whatever that means.
[05:58] <TomyWork> nm, after doing the same thing again, it's gone?
[05:58] <TomyWork> maybe i just had to wait a while
[05:59] <bryanroderyck> hello ,can i upgrade my ubuntu  16.04 on my latop to a 18.04 version on a dvd?
[06:01] <krytarik> bryanroderyck: I think there is an option in the installer then, yes.
[06:01] <bryanroderyck> where to start from ..i dont know
[06:02] <krytarik> Well, burn the DVD, and the boot up from it?
[06:03] <bryanroderyck> my laptop is not booting the cd even i have the bios bootsetup ... the cd drive read then goes to my hdd
[06:09] <Bashing-om> bryanroderyck: Then that implys that bios finds no boot code on the CD. verify the .iso and the burn to the cd.
[06:22] <smartmax> Hi, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu installed on Windows 10 through the Windows store, is this the place to ask for help?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | smartmax
[06:23] <smartmax> Thank you
[06:28] <TomyWork> avahi-daemon keeps starting itself. how do i prevent it from doing so?
[06:28] <TomyWork> preferably without uninstalling it
[06:28] <TomyWork> systemctl disable avahi-daemon should do it, but doesn't
[06:34] <ducasse> TomyWork: try masking it, 'systemctl mask avahi-daemon'
[06:40] <TomyWork> "Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service → /dev/null." - lol
[06:40] <TomyWork> ok that looks like it'd work :D
[06:43] <bryanroderyck> hello ,im trying to upgrade my ubuntu but i recieve a message saying my python 3 is corrupted cant upgrade
[06:49] <bryanroderyck> hello ,im trying to upgrade my ubuntu but i recieve a message saying my python 3 is corrupted cant upgrade
[06:52] <krytarik> bryanroderyck: You might want to extend a little more patience as to your questions.
[06:53] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: also some details, like a pastebin of the full output
[06:53] <Apachez> hggdh: doing stuff its explictly configured NOT to IS considered to phone home
[06:54] <Apachez> specially when it establishes network connections against my will
[06:55] <krytarik> Apachez: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/05/07/%23ubuntu.html#t06:20 - as I said yesterday.  I see you already managed to disregard it though.
[07:04] <bryanroderyck> https://bpaste.net/show/9273676aa873
[07:13] <mikubuntu> Doing an upgrade to 18.10, and there appeared output in term to the effect that installation is likely broken and 4 meantime run command that starts gdk-pixbuf ... but I can't find it anymore. Installing upgrades is proceeding but I don't know if i will be safe to restart at conclusion?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: if apt doesnt give errors its 'safer' to reboot, did you make a backup of your data?
[07:17] <mikubuntu> Lotus no
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: when doing upgrades its always reccomended having a backup of your data, if anything goes wrong
[07:18] <mikubuntu> Lotuspsychje I know, careless
[07:19] <mikubuntu> No available media
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: as we dont know the details of your errors during upgrade, its not easy to advice you neither
[07:22] <mikubuntu> Lotuspsychje at this rate upgrades still have 15 to 20 mins, should I hold off restart after cleanup or is it automatic?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: when upgrade running, dont abort till the end
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: when upgrade completes without errors, its possible reboot will work nicely
[07:23] <mikubuntu> first time ever in channel via we chat conference, so hard to see and type
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: ive seen your nick here before, its not the first time you come here right
[07:24] <mikubuntu> Lotuspsychje so you DO recommend aborting?
[07:25] <mikubuntu> Yes been here many times just not from phone
[07:25] <ducasse> mikubuntu: do not abort, finish updates
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: no, did you read what i say?
[07:26] <ducasse> mikubuntu: if 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade' finishes without errors you should be ok
[07:26] <bryanroderyck> hi ubuntu im having an internal error that blocks verything how to solve this pleAse
[07:27] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: still the python error?
[07:27] <mikubuntu> No I dint see that second part because keyboard covers all content while typing
[07:27] <bryanroderyck> no ..its an error with ubuntu itself
[07:28] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: ok, pastebin the full error
[07:28] <mikubuntu> Ducasse ok
[07:28] <bryanroderyck> i cant pastebin the error
[07:28] <bryanroderyck> its outside the treminal
[07:29] <bryanroderyck> #terminal
[07:29] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: then post a screenshot to imgur.com or similar
[07:29] <bryanroderyck> ok wait
[07:32] <bryanroderyck> https://imgur.com/a/NlDpbfc
[07:34] <mikubuntu> Lotuspsychje several error msgs going to try to post to imagebin
[07:34] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: ok, aptd has crashed, but that shouldn't be critical to the system
[07:34] <ducasse> mikubuntu: use a pastebin if text only
[07:34] <bryanroderyck> im having problem with python 3 and upgrade process
[07:37] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: what does 'ls -l /usr/bin/python3' return?
[07:38] <bryanroderyck> https://pastebin.com/tqURL4PN
[07:40] <mikubuntu_> https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTWKF2AMt3I ducasse lotuspsychje
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: keep installing till the end
[07:42] <mikubuntu_> Don't know how I got knocked out of channel I guess cause I opened anothr browser to upload to imagebin
[07:42] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: ok, and 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/python3'? if only one line you can just post it here
[07:43] <mikubuntu_> Lotuspsychje ok looks 2 b @ about 90%
[07:43] <ducasse> mikubuntu_: as you can see those are warnings only, should not be critical
[07:44] <bryanroderyck> https://pastebin.com/fHMTH2vj
[07:45] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: 'ls -l /usr/bin/python3.5'
[07:46] <mikubuntu_> Ducasse ok if u say so - lol
[07:46] <mikubuntu_> Still biting my nails
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: as long the upgrade is running, there is hope
[07:47] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[07:47] <mikubuntu_> :) plz god
[07:48] <MonsieurBon> My bluetooth device keeps getting turned on automatically (I assume on reboot?). As I rarely use bluetooth on my laptop, I would like it to be disabled unless I enable it manually. How can I do that?
[07:49] <bryanroderyck> https://pastebin.com/QA24Lk8b
[07:50] <gigirock> MonsieurBon, check rfkill command, but sometimes bt is 'togheter' with wifi , and so if you have wifi on the bt is still on.
[07:51] <MonsieurBon> gigirock, where would I put the rfkill command? I can enable/disable bluetooth and wifi separately and independently in the menu, so I guess they are not 'together'?
[07:52] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: ok, that all looks good. what command do you run when you get the python error?
[07:52] <gigirock> MonsieurBon, ctrl alt t , you have a terminal , then  "man rfkill"
[07:52] <bryanroderyck> i use the text editor
[07:53] <MonsieurBon> gigirock, I know that. :-) but I assumed that I would have to add it to some startup script so it will be turned off at every boot?
[07:53] <gigirock> MonsieurBon, or you have some bt utility in your system, but it depends which de you are running
[07:54] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: which one?
[07:54] <bryanroderyck> atom text editor
[07:56] <bryanroderyck> before that i use ninja IDE
[07:57] <bryanroderyck> but i have recived the internal error very long time ..
[07:58] <ducasse> how did you install atom?
[07:58] <bryanroderyck> threw the terminal i suppose
[07:59] <mikubuntu> Lotuspsychje ducasse https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTbpo9x1JgS
[08:00] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: from a snap?
[08:00] <bryanroderyck> no i cant use snap im on 16.04 32 bit machine
[08:01] <ducasse> mikubuntu: just select replace
[08:02] <mikubuntu> Ducasse but replace with what? Lol.
[08:03] <ducasse> mikubuntu: it will replace that config file with a file from the package, it's safe
[08:03] <mikubuntu> Ok
[08:06] <mikubuntu> https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTeKfUMvoPm  ducasse
[08:06] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: ok, because there is no atom package that i can see for 16.04
[08:07] <bryanroderyck> i have it install ..
[08:08] <ducasse> mikubuntu: just let it run
[08:08] <bryanroderyck> brb
[08:08] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: i don't doubt that, i'm just wondering where it came from
[08:09] <mikubuntu> K
[08:09] <ducasse> mikubuntu: it should finish soon
[08:10] <mikubuntu> Asking me to restart or close ducasse
[08:10] <ducasse> mikubuntu: no errors?
[08:11] <bryanroderyck> i use atom frequently
[08:11] <mikubuntu> Not showing in the output now ducasse
[08:11] <bryanroderyck> what can be done?
[08:12] <ducasse> mikubuntu: good, then you can restart
[08:12] <mikubuntu> The moment of truth has arrived
[08:15] <ducasse> bryanroderyck: let me go through this - exactly where do you get that python error? how do you start atom and where does it show?
[08:15] <mikubuntu> Ducasse https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTh8GGkyfZ2
[08:16] <mikubuntu> But login screen is up
[08:16] <bryanroderyck> i get the error message when i start ubuntu ... the error saying python when i want to upgrade ubuntu its block the process
[08:17] <bryanroderyck> i start atom from desktop
[08:19] <kaikas> I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 using do-release-upgrade. The tool stops at "Adding group `systemd-journal` (GID 106) ... Done." and nothing more happens. How can i fix that? It is a root server and the provider forces me to use 14.04 as bare image, so a fresh install is not an option.
[08:19] <mikubuntu> Ducasse at one point in the upgrade I got msg that 2 display mgrs were installed and to choose one add or lights I chose lightdm because it wouldn't seem to let me do the other but I can see display looks goofy now
[08:21] <mikubuntu> Going to login to channel from target now
[08:24] <mikubuntu> ducasse damn now i lost view of our previous threads, were u able to see the image of the login screen?
[08:25] <mikubuntu> i've definitely goofed up my display somehow
[08:28] <ducasse> no, i didn't get that message
[08:28] <mikubuntu> ducasse, let me try to repost
[08:29] <bryanroderyck> https://imgur.com/a/dl6RZOd i have also before ubuntu start i have the xorg error msg ..
[08:32] <dragi> OS Ubuntu 19.04 freezes
[08:34] <mikubuntu> ducasse - https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTmnC7WhQxf
[08:36] <ducasse> mikubuntu: oh, yes, i got that - i thought you said it was of the login screen
[08:38] <mikubuntu> ducasse yes that was on the login screen and now my display resolution is all goofy, could it be that i shouldn't have chosen to proceed with lightdm rather than sddm during the upgrade? i actually couldn't make it choose sddm.
[08:42] <ducasse> mikubuntu: display manager shouldn't matter, what gpu do you have?
[08:43] <mikubuntu> ducasse -- lol, i have no idea
[08:44] <mikubuntu> looks like lxterminal has been replaced with qterminal in the menus though ducasse
[08:44] <ducasse> mikubuntu: pastebin output of 'lshw -C video'
[08:44] <mikubuntu> k
[08:46] <mikubuntu> ducasse https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HssbBmbD24/
[08:48] <qwebirc97591> Whenever I connect charger pin to laptop but doesn't indicate charging instantly
[08:48] <ducasse> mikubuntu: ok, intel gpu. that should not give you any driver issues. which release is this again?
[08:49] <mikubuntu> ducasse uhmmmm i guess this is now 18.10 after the upgrade
[08:50] <ducasse> mikubuntu: are you planning to upgrade all the way to 19.04?
[08:51] <mikubuntu> ducasse i hoped to but i read that i shouldn't jump 2 upgrades at once or something
[08:53] <ducasse> mikubuntu: you can't, you need to go one at a time (unless you upgrade from one lts to the next)
[08:53] <eraserpencil> when i do an apt install of pkgA, somehow pkgA and pkgB(which is not a dependcy of pkgA) gets installed too.
[08:53] <eraserpencil> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2DYKCyjtyd/
[08:53] <mikubuntu> ducasse -- oh i must have misread that (too)
[08:54] <mikubuntu> ducasse -- should i just try to continue and do next upgrade?
[08:55] <mikubuntu> and not worry about display issues yet/now?
[08:58] <ducasse> mikubuntu: you can. are the display issues annoying? what exactly are they, wrong resolution?
[09:00] <mikubuntu> ducasse yes resolution and even some colors don't appear to be rendering right -- kind of looks like the screen from my first win 95 comp (switched to buntu 7.04)
[09:03] <ducasse> mikubuntu: ok. in that case you can try upgrading to see if that fixes it. if it doesn't, it might be an edid problem.
[09:04] <mikubuntu> ducasse ok https://imagebin.ca/v/4gTvs7j7ddoO
[09:04] <mikubuntu> looks like that
[09:04] <mikubuntu> ducasse is it ok to leave my browser open during upgrade?
[09:05] <mikubuntu> don't have any particular homework that could get broken, right?
[09:06] <mikubuntu> i've always closed everything during updates, but maybe i don't have to?
[09:09] <ducasse> no, i'm usually working on during them
[09:10] <mikubuntu> k i'll leave it open then
[09:15] <sveinse> Are there any docs for how to create an ubuntu (TUI-only) live usb drive whith installable pacakges which is persistent?
[09:16] <ayekat> sveinse: don't think so, but it shouldn't be any different from installing ubuntu to any other drive
[09:17] <sveinse> ayekat: so one could boot off the USB installer and install a system on another USB device?
[09:17] <sveinse> that might work
[09:18] <ayekat> sveinse: yes - it's just a storage device as far as the installer is concerned
[09:23] <mikubuntu> ducasse why is everything always so complicated? lol. got this window dialogue: "One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade, to avoid locking your users
[09:26] <ducasse> mikubuntu: ok, see if those are running and kill them if they are
[09:26] <ducasse> mikubuntu: or just make sure they don't lock the screen
[09:27] <mikubuntu> ducasse how do i know? the upgrade seems to be proceeding.
[09:27] <mikubuntu> ducasse do i run killall on each?
[09:27] <ducasse> mikubuntu: if they're running, yes
[09:28] <mikubuntu> ducasse so no worries i can just run killall while the upgrade is running?
[09:28] <ducasse> yeah
[09:28] <mikubuntu> ok thx
[09:28] <ducasse> just don't kill the upgrade process :)
[09:31] <mikubuntu> ducasse ok ran killall on xscreensaver, went back to prompt, ran killall xlockmore, said no process found
[09:32] <ducasse> ok, good
[09:40] <mikubuntu> ducasse omg don't even say it! lol.
[09:40] <mikubuntu> killall upgrade
[09:44] <ItsMeLenny> so i cant get my MT7601U usb Wireless Adapter (148f:7601) to work as a hotspot or adhoc on ubuntu 18.04 kernel 4.15.0-48-generic yet it works when connecting to wifi, its a popular cheap wifi dongle, does anybody know any tricks or secrets about it
[09:44] <mikubuntu> ducasse hmmmm .. seems to be downloading/unpacking a lot of kde stuff, i think i tried some kde utility once or something, guess it won't hurt anything
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: kde 16.04 is end of life
[09:46] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje__: i don't really know why that kde stuff is in there
[09:46] <ducasse> mikubuntu: you probably have some kde app, they drag in tons of libraries etc
[09:47] <mikubuntu> ducasse i guess so i vaguely remember wanting/thinking i needed some little utility or something i don't even know what now
[09:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[09:53] <loru> Hello. I'm on ubuntu 18.04, using netplan on a server. I have addresses: [ x.x.x.50/24, '2x:x:x:x::ffff/64' ] and I need to add one more ipv4 and v6 (currently in a container, attaching them on the host instead). Would "addresses: [ x.x.x.50/24, y.y.y.51/24, 'x:x:x:x::ffff/64', 'y.y.y.y::ffee/64' ]" be fine?
[09:54] <loru> Perhaps I should change /24 to /32 and /64 to /128, heh.
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> loru: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[09:55] <loru> thank you lotuspsychje
[10:01] <Tankburn> Hello. I need to change my graphics drivers and although I seem to have it all installed it is still running the incorrect ones, which is causing some issues. I want to know how to change back to the normal nouveau one I had at the start
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: whats your ubuntu version, chipset and driver version please?
[10:02] <Tankburn> (I have an nVidia 1060 6GB)
[10:03] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: 18.04.2 LTS
[10:03] <Tankburn> how do I get the chipset?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: sudo lshw -C video && ubuntu-drivers list
[10:07] <Tankburn> https://pastebin.com/embed_js/VyJu0yZm
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: ok your card shows unclaimed, meaning no driver loaded. did you add the ubuntu graphics ppa?
[10:10] <Tankburn> didnt know I needed to. Ill try that. I recently tried to sudo apt-get purge nvidia* in hopes that it would revert back on its own. Maybe that has something to do with out put
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: wait, it was a question, as i see multiple versions in your drivers list
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: so i wanted to know if you added them from somewhere first?
[10:12] <Tankburn> I added the ppa for nVidia proprietary drivers
[10:12] <Tankburn> but not the ubuntu graphics PPA
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: wich one?
[10:13] <Tankburn> I added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | Tankburn
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> check if its the same as here please Tankburn ^
[10:14] <Tankburn> alright, checking, brb
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: you can check in your sources.list
[10:17] <Tankburn> cant see it in here
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: how about when you: apt-cache policy nvidia-driver-430
[10:19] <inad922> hello
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu support inad922
[10:19] <Tankburn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DX4JbxFc9z/
[10:20] <Tankburn> look like it says none
[10:20] <Tankburn> but this all started when I installed the 390 driver
[10:20] <Tankburn> when I should of installed the 430
[10:21] <Tankburn> when I attempted install the 430 ones I had dependacy issue
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: you are using the ubuntu graphics ppa, good!
[10:21] <Tankburn> ok :)
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: now try: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-430
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: after install reboot
[10:22] <Tankburn> ok then, brb :)
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: if apt gives you errors this time, please pastebin to us
[10:23] <shanee> Hello. Mostly out of interest, does anyone know why there's a limit to RAM virtual memory overcommit by default? What happens after this limit on virtual memory overcommit is reached? Will malloc start returning NULL pointers?
[10:24] <ducasse> shanee: you might want to ask that in ##linux
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> wb Tankburn
[10:26] <Tankburn> Hey lotuspsychje
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: lets have a look at: sudo lshw -C video again?
[10:26] <Tankburn> still have the same symptoms
[10:27] <Tankburn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8t2fdTh3h8/
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: no, still unclaimed..did you be able to catch the apt errors?
[10:28] <Tankburn> I can run it again and send em
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: wait, try another version now
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: lets try 418 for example
[10:29] <Tankburn> sure
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: then before you reboot, pastebin the whole output
[10:30] <Tankburn> will do.
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[10:33] <boba_> hi
[10:33] <boba_> anyone there
[10:33] <boba_> hi
[10:33] <boba_> hu
[10:33] <boba_> hi
[10:33] <boba_> lol
[10:33] <boba_> lol
[10:34] <Tankburn> looks like it is going to take about 10 minutes lotuspsychje.
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: that sounds long, you recall if your system is up to date?
[10:35] <inad922> Could someone tell me which package contains the st terminal emulator?
[10:36] <boba_> hi
[10:36] <boba_> hi
[10:36] <boba_> hi
[10:36] <boba_> hi
[10:36] <boba_> anyone thereeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:36] <boba_> anyone thrre
[10:37] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: it seems to only be download @ 256kb/s and I purged the nVidia package prior.... I think...
[10:37] <shanee> ducasse: Thank you.
[10:43] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F2DnjsrSvZ/
[10:45] <Tankburn> display is still saying unclaimed btw
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: did you reboot?
[10:45] <Tankburn> Oh, ok ill do that now
[10:48] <Tankburn> same thing :/ did you see anything unusual in that pastebin?
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: lets try: sudo apt autoremove
[10:50] <Tankburn> ok running now
[10:50] <Tankburn> alright its done, I have the output if needed
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: did it finish without errors?
[10:51] <Tankburn> no errors
[10:51] <Tankburn> looks good
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: ok good now lets try: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:53] <Tankburn> alrighty, seem to have gone through without any errors
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: did it update packages?
[10:55] <Tankburn> 5 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[10:55] <Tankburn> it completed those without issue
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: ok, now lets try the software&updates icon/tab additional drivers and switch to 396
[10:57] <Tankburn> alright, got that done. time to reboot\
[10:58] <Tankburn> brb
[11:05] <mikubuntu_> Ducasse are u still here? I may have run into serious issues got msg that system may be in an unusable state.
[11:05] <acebrianjuan> Hi all
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: ducasse might be afk for a while atm
[11:06] <acebrianjuan> Is it possible to make screen captures in ubuntu with a drop-shadow effect?
[11:06] <acebrianjuan> something like this: https://cdn1.tekrevue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/20130301_osxscreenshots_4.jpg
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: please state your question to the channel, with the steps you tryed, ubuntu version, details
[11:07] <acebrianjuan> *screenshots
[11:07] <mikubuntu_> Ok thx lotuspsychje,  do u think I should try restart?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: i did not follow the whole conversation sorry, re-ask in channel please
[11:08] <mikubuntu_> Sry just saw ur 2nd post
[11:10] <acebrianjuan> I found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/50604/application-for-taking-pretty-screenshots-like-os-x-does
[11:11] <mikubuntu_> Don't really know if i can properly describe the prob, was upgrading to 1904 and got several error msgs, one said my system may b in unusable state, another that some prob w install-info
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: at wich point are you now? did upgrade finish?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> wb Tankburn
[11:12] <mikubuntu_> Last msg was that upgrade was aborted, but then said it was completed but w errors
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: problems with the 396?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: try: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:13] <mikubuntu_> Lotuspsychje k
[11:13] <Xatenev> hi
[11:13] <Xatenev> is anyone using rofi/dmenu?
[11:13] <Xatenev> It became really slow suddenly, (it takes 2 seconds now)
[11:14] <Xatenev> the time seems to be consistent
[11:14] <Xatenev> i wonder how to debug this, or if anyone has a clue what might be wrong
[11:14] <Xatenev> im not sure what changed
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: whats happening?
[11:16] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: I tried changing to the nauveau driver and then the 396
[11:16] <Tankburn> rebooting both time
[11:16] <Tankburn> still saying my driver is unclaimed
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: hmm, thats pretty weird mate
[11:17] <mikubuntu_> Lotuspsychje is it restarting the whole uograde?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: what does ubuntu-drivers devices say?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: no, its updating your system
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: please follow closely if you dont see errors ok?
[11:18] <ducasse> mikubuntu_: i'm back - what's going on?
[11:18] <mikubuntu_> Wish there was some way to upload activity to a cloud live
[11:18] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: wierd thing is in my setup > about and I check the graphics it has said:  lvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 256 bits) this entire time when it used to say nauveau
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: his upgrade finished, we apt update & upgrade now
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: can you share your dmesg please?
[11:20] <mikubuntu_> I'm back to prompt I dint see any errors in output
[11:22] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Xs8CF5dVs/
[11:22] <mikubuntu_> You think I should try restart?  Disease lotuspsychje
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: do you dualboot?
[11:23] <Tankburn> from seperate disks not partition, but yes
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: Kernel is locked down from EFI secure boot; see man kernel_lockdown.7
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: its possible that uefi settings block your graphics card
[11:24] <Tankburn> I recently installed a firmware update to resolve an efibootmgr issue.
[11:25] <Tankburn> but thing is... the issue started exhibiting itself right after I install the nvidia 390 through CLI
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: 390 from where
[11:26] <Tankburn> let me get the website up that I followed
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: how about a look in your sources.list please
[11:27] <Tankburn> https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-nvidia-driver-ubuntu-18-04
[11:27] <Tankburn> thats the site I followed, but I used the CLI instructions
[11:29] <Tankburn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ck2nk6MtFt/
[11:29] <Tankburn> my sources.list
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: ok also looks good, lets try a test with your uefi settings: fastboot=off secureboot=off
[11:31] <Tankburn> alrighty, ill check it
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: just keep in mind changing uefi settings might influence your current install(s)
[11:31] <Tankburn> this is true
[11:31] <Tankburn> brb :)
[11:32] <mikubuntu_> Well THAT was an unfortunate autocomplete above ducasse lotuspsychje
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: elaborate please, what happened?
[11:34] <basma> nothing
[11:35] <basma> trying this tool
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> basma: can we help you?
[11:35] <basma> yes
[11:36] <Tankburn> lotuspsychje: Thank you so much for your help. You have solved my problem
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> wich driver is loaded atm Tankburn ?
[11:37] <Tankburn> it seems to have updated to GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 in Setup > About and in additional drivers section the 396 driver are selected, which were the ones on our last attempt
[11:37] <mikubuntu_> Lotuspsychje I did the command u said and it asked me to autremove which I did and now back to prompt no more sign of any upgrade process
[11:37] <Tankburn> so looks and feels good again :)
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> ok great, if you like you can also try higher versions Tankburn
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> : )
[11:37] <Tankburn> yes 430 is recommeded so ill try that
[11:38] <Tankburn> tysm can I add you as a buddy?
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Tankburn: you can find me at #ubuntu-discuss
[11:38] <Tankburn> ok
[11:38] <Tankburn> take care and thanks again
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu_: its time for a reboot!
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> welcome Tankburn
[11:39] <mikubuntu_> Lotuspsychje ima eskeered. Here goes.
[11:41] <mikubuntu_> Option size missing in cryptab lotuspsychje
[11:48]  * zer0_her0 finally got firefox add ons back
[12:12] <Xatenev> hi
[12:12] <Xatenev> i tried to set my default terminal to xterm via sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[12:13] <Xatenev> that worked, it now starts xterm but it doesnt load my Xresources
[12:13] <Xatenev> any ideas?
[12:13] <Xatenev> when i launch `xterm` manually via command line it loads it oprlery
[12:14] <k3tan> i'm on ubuntu 18.04.2 desktop. i want to use it without a monitor and just vnc into it. i've had this working, but i think after an update, it's messed something up. can someone please advise of the best solution to do this? i think i've read every ubuntu forum searching for this. should i just buy a VGA dummy plug?
[12:15] <Xatenev> oh i had to use uxterm
[12:15] <Xatenev> it works now
[12:26] <Guestss1> hi , register for free on https://www.pokerstrategy.com/#uHQOLZ and get 50$ free money and decent poker education!
[12:28] <u0_a69> hello
[12:29] <Amrul> hello
[12:29] <Younder> k3tan, ssh is the obvious way of doing this. I have a server running here right now that I control through a terminal. If you want windows programs to run a -X option can be passed, but mostly I use a command line or a HTTP server to represent it. cockpit is great fro monitoring  a network using a web-browser.'
[12:29] <ducasse> Amrul: hi, do you have an ubuntu question?
[12:35] <Younder> Newcomers, take a good look look at the the number of people logged in. At current it is 1571. We don't need introductory hello's. If you have a question, ask it directly.
[12:38] <Gosset> anyone with a 1TB SSD mem?
[12:39] <Younder> Gosset, I have 2 TB
[12:39] <Gosset> :O
[12:39] <Gosset> but you know that memories don't last too much?
[12:39] <Gosset> *those
[12:40] <Gosset> I hope you backup everything
[12:40] <Gosset> anyway, it's offtopic, sorry
[12:40] <Younder> Gosset, I also have a 10 TB disk which I back up to. And they last pretty long. Just don't get close to their capacity.
[12:41] <Gosset> ok, it's good to know
[12:41] <M_aD> and trim on a regular base
[12:44] <raub> M_aD: would you have some docs on that? I am guilty of not doing that myself
[12:45] <Younder> For some reason it is reasonable quiet now so I will give apiece of advice. Ubuntu uses .deb files to update the system. Apart from /etc do not install programs in areas other than /home/<user> or /usr/local. If you do you interfere with the package system and the 'next' update will fail (or the 10'th).
[12:46] <k3tan> Younder, i don't want to use it through terminal, i want GUI
[12:47] <raub> Younder: is /opt still a thing?
[12:49] <Younder> raub, yes. Some programs still use it. So when backing up avoid system areas and  use /home /opt and /usr/local
[12:49] <M_aD> raub: got to go but the internet is yours, plenty of info out there on how to trim your ssd :)
[12:49] <M_aD> laters
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> !trim
[12:50] <Younder> k3tan, whatever is a web browser acceptable?
[12:50] <k3tan> sure
[12:51] <Younder> Then use cockpit.
[12:51] <urgodfather> morning all
[12:53] <Labga> Hi, How can I flash a windows 10 iso to usb on 19.04??
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> Labga: woeusb
[12:53] <Labga> not supported on 19.04
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Labga: keep in mind we dont officially support it
[12:54] <Labga> that's why I ask
[12:54] <Younder> Labga, I use GUI program called brasero.
[12:55] <Younder> Labga, I fact I did what you suggested  last month.
[12:56] <Labga> Younder: It let me choose only disc and not USB drive
[12:56] <urgodfather> Labga have you used unetbootin?
[12:57] <k3tan> Younder, just installed cockpit, how do I view/control the GUI?
[12:57] <Younder> https://itsfoss.com/bootable-windows-usb-linux/
[12:58] <Younder> k3tan, In the browser enter https://localhost:9090/system
[12:59] <k3tan> im there
[12:59] <k3tan> this doesn't allow me to see the desktop?
[12:59] <Labga> urgodfather: Same as with woeusb. supported till 18.10
[12:59] <Younder> Log in using your usrename and password
[12:59] <k3tan> yep
[12:59] <urgodfather> unetbootin is no longer supported?!?! missed that memo
[13:00] <k3tan> Younder, it's just giving me a bunch of graphs/stats
[13:00] <Younder> k3tan, select the tabe 'terminal' ;)
[13:00] <yakiza> Hello guys i  have an ubuntu server that was passed on to me and  my boss wants me to get some data from the mysql database but nobody knows the root password the guy that was maintiaining it left long time ago
[13:01] <yakiza> How can i pass the  --skip-grant-tables properly ?
[13:01] <urgodfather> yakiza good luck
[13:01] <yakiza> hahahah
[13:02] <k3tan> yep, it's giving me the terminal now
[13:02] <Younder> yakiza, You intentions might be good, then again you might be a hacker. I can't tell.
[13:02] <yakiza> relax figured it out brah
[13:02] <yakiza> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[13:08] <Labga> So I can't flash a win image on 19.04?
[13:09] <Labga> do I see it right?
[13:10] <urgodfather> you could always do a dd
[13:11] <coconut> only that your disk will be read only file system then iirc
[13:12] <urgodfather> coconut is that in regards to using dd?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Labga: snap find woeusb
[13:13] <pragmaticenigma> coconut: As has been said before, please do not contribute incomplete thoughts or ideas. using DD to write an image file to a disk does not mean the result will be read only.
[13:15] <Labga> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[13:15] <urgodfather> pragmaticenigma even if it did, couldnt you just fsutil and modify it to be RW?
[13:15] <urgodfather> j/w
[13:16] <pragmaticenigma> dd is a binary duplication program. it litterally copies bits of data from a source, to a destination. If the source data is somehow flagged as readonly, the destination will inherit that same flag.
[13:18] <Younder> pragmaticenigma, you wnat to use rsunc
[13:18] <Labga> I installed from snap but it doesn't find it
[13:18] <Younder> pragmaticenigma, you wnat to use rsync
[13:18] <Labga> I think I get my wifes laptop
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> Labga: just testing myself, didnt create an icon neither here
[13:20] <binarydragon> Good morning
[13:21] <spuz> How can I find out if dnsmasq is running on my machine?
[13:21] <urgodfather> pragmaticenigma that applies to the data, what about the partition? its been a while since ive had to do an img to usb, just dusting off cobwebs
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> Labga: /snap/woe-usb/21/bin
[13:24] <binarydragon> try runnig nmap localhost to see if port 53 is open, if so then you can use sudo systemctl status dnsmasq
[13:25] <kurt-xubuntu> hello i am running xubuntu 18.04 64 bit on an old core2duo hardware probably does not matter for this question but i have that avalable on request anyway i installed XScreenSaver wile trying to work out what turned out to be a hardware issue with the monitor new monitor end of issue so i want to revert back to the default power manager thingy that blanks the screen in ubuntu my question is will the XScreenSaver package uninstall
[13:25] <kurt-xubuntu> cleanly or will i end up with a mess
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> urgodfather: this discussion is no longer on topic, and we need to move on
[13:27] <urgodfather> ::thumbsup
[13:27] <coconut> pragmaticenigma: oh it's has an different outcome when using dd instead of cp on an iso then?
[13:28] <binarydragon> kurt-xubuntu: i would start with that
[13:28] <leftyfb> coconut: yes. Since cp'ing an iso to something like /dev/sda1 is invalid and won't actually do anything. cp'ing an iso file to a mounted flash drive only copies the file. Now you have a file on your flash drive. Not the installer.
[13:31] <coconut> leftyfb: cp'ing files without a mount does complete in a valid install usb disk here though. What is invalid about it?
[13:32] <kurt-xubuntu> well it seems to have uninstalled ok nothing blew up no errors or crashes time will tell on the rest
[13:32] <kurt-xubuntu> sorry to bug you
[13:33] <kurt-xubuntu> later
[13:33] <EriC^^> coconut: cp'ing is valid but you have to cp to the disk not a partition
[13:33] <EriC^^> cp file /dev/sdb for instance
[13:35] <coconut> EriC^^: yes, knew that :)
[13:35] <EriC^^> i had a feeling like i came mid discussion, carry on :)
[13:37] <leftyfb> coconut: I didn't think that would actually work. I assume there was something magic/different about dd that cp wouldn't do to make image properly.
[13:39] <coconut> EriC^^: oh that's probably for me too then... ouch.
[13:40] <transhumanist> due to a nasty bug in boost versions above 1.41.3 I am trying to install boost 1.41.0 in ubuntu 18.04 that is preventing me from compiling ROS can I obtain this older version of boost and likely have it install on 18.04 its made for lucid. And where can I get the package to try?
[13:40] <dragondaksh> join #r/linux
[13:42] <transhumanist> you talking to me dragondaksh ?
[13:43] <transhumanist> I guess I will compile from source and make my own package
[13:58] <dragondaksh> i am having issue with 4k resolution
[13:58] <dragondaksh> can anyone help here
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | dragondaksh
[14:01] <dragondaksh> 4k resolution rendering issue with google chrome there is lag strobes and frame skipping, xorg version 1.19.1 intel driver
[14:02] <TJ-> dragondaksh: only Google Chrome? How about Chromium-browser, or other browsers on the same URIs ?
[14:03] <dragondaksh> cpu specification AMD PRO A6-8570E R5, 6 COMPUTE CORES 2C+4G, sorry its amd not intel
[14:04] <dragondaksh> @Tj- tried chromium but still same
[14:06] <TJ-> dragondaksh: ahhh, so, which driver is in use? "lspci -nnk" should help identify it
[14:06] <dragondaksh> cfhowlett ?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> if I could contribute anything meaningful, I would.  silence means IDK.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | dinis
[14:08] <dragondaksh> amdgpu
[14:11] <TJ-> dragondaksh: any warning/error messages in the kernel log when it happens? "journalctl -b -p warning"
[14:14] <dragondaksh> need to check as i was only playing with chrome
[14:14] <dragondaksh> but nothing in dmesg for sure
[14:15] <TJ-> dragondaksh: I cannot find any obvious bug reports for the amdgpu driver itself that matches your symptoms so it may be something unique to how Chromium/Chrome are rendering
[14:19] <dragondaksh> @TJ- Okay
[14:34] <rpifan> why does a ppa not auto import the pub key on debian
[14:34] <cfhowlett> ask #debian rpifan this is ubuntu support only
[14:35] <rpifan> but you invented this PPA stuff
[14:36] <cfhowlett> ... UBUNTU support.
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !debian
[14:36] <ddduck> hi
[14:36] <rpifan> yes but this package comes only in ppa form
[14:36] <rpifan> and says use the ppa for debian
[14:37] <cfhowlett> and this is NOT debian support.  install ubuntu and we can support you.
[14:37] <rpifan> uninvent PPAs and there wont be a proble
[14:37] <ddduck> I have usb barometer plugged in... when I use pyusb, it seems to indicate that a kernel driver/module has taken the device
[14:37] <ddduck> how can I find out which kernel module is using the device?
[14:37] <ducasse> rpifan: debian invented repos first
[14:38] <jeremy31> ddduck: usb-devices
[14:38] <rpifan> Debian users also can install Papirus from our PPA, but the commands will differ:
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> rpifan: please only ubuntu support issues, seek the right channel as adviced above
[14:39] <ducasse> rpifan: ask in #debian, please, it's the proper place for you to get support
[14:40] <ddduck> jeremy31, ok... hm it says driver=None
[14:40] <ddduck> for my device
[14:40] <ddduck> so must be another issue
[14:41] <jeremy31> ddduck: is it some USB serial converter?
[14:42] <hacktivis> help me please !!
[14:42] <SimonNL> hacktivis: help us help you
[14:42] <cfhowlett> you have yet to ask your question, hacktivis
[14:45] <hacktivis> how to stretch the site
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !details | hacktivis
[14:46] <SimonNL> !pastebin
[14:47] <hacktivis> help me please !!
[14:48] <hacktivis> how to stretch the site
[14:48] <ducasse> with what?
[14:48] <nCrazed> what
[14:48] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ what is your first language?
[14:48] <hacktivis> indonesian
[14:49] <ducasse> !id | hacktivis
[14:49] <Yatekii> hey folks, I have a lot of repositories that do tell me thre is no Release file for disco. is there a general time estimate when repos normally adapt to new releases?
[14:49] <leftyfb> I'd suggest -id but it's always empty
[14:49] <ducasse> Yatekii: contact the maintainer
[14:49] <Yatekii> or can I use a manifest from an older version?
[14:49] <leftyfb> Yatekii: that is a question for the maintainer of the PPA's
[14:49] <rpifan> hacktivis, do you do hacking activities lol
[14:49] <hacktivis> join #ubuntu.id
[14:50] <hacktivis> ls
[14:50] <rpifan> ?
[14:50] <leftyfb> ducasse: sending to #ubuntu-id is pointless. There's nobody ever there.
[14:50] <hacktivis> how to get out of here
[14:51] <ducasse> i was not aware of that, thanks
[14:51] <leftyfb> hacktivis: /part
[14:56] <hacktivis> hello
[14:56] <hacktivis> help me please
[14:57] <hacktivis> help me please
[14:57] <lordcirth_> !ask | hacktivis
[14:57] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ very carefully state your problem.  "stretch the site" makes NO sense in English
[14:58] <Mia> hola
[14:58] <Mia> hi
[14:58] <Guest38740> i am speek spanish
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !es
[14:58] <solderfumes> he's in write only mode
[14:59] <hacktivis> help me please
[14:59] <Guest38740> ok thanks
[14:59] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ STATE                THE                      DETAILS
[15:00] <mia06> hi
[15:00] <mia06> hi
[15:00] <mia06> hi
[15:00] <mia06> hi
[15:00] <mia06> hi
[15:00] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/how to change language??
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> hacktivis: Change the language of what? your question has no subject
[15:01] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ use simple language.  describe your problem.
[15:01] <solderfumes> hacktivis thinks we are bots??
[15:02] <hacktivis> sloderdumes/no me newbie cyber indonesian
[15:03] <SimonNL> languages in main menu maybe hacktivis
[15:04] <hacktivis> simonNL/mean??
[15:04] <leftyfb> hacktivis: https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-change-to-your-native-language-on-ubuntu-17-10/
[15:07] <Alio88> Hello my old laptop broke recently so I took my hardrive out with ubuntu mate on it and put it in my new laptop and it boots up fine but network manager won't start and I have to connect to the internet with nmcli, any ideas how I can get network manager working as normal again?
[15:07] <hacktivis> help me please
[15:07] <hacktivis> me cyber newbie
[15:07] <compdoc> Alio88, you sure the drive isnt dying? its easy to tell
[15:07] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ read >>>>         https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-change-to-your-native-language-on-ubuntu-17-10/
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Alio88/ if you new laptop has different hardware you may need to reconfigure your network settings
[15:08] <cfhowlett> and possibly install a new driver
[15:08] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/i use termux
[15:09] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/i use android
[15:09] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/          and?
[15:10] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/and do you know how
[15:10] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ what city are you in?
[15:11] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/i was in jakarta
[15:11] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ contact your local team for support        http://www.ubuntu-id.org/
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> hacktivis: For further assistance enter this command on irc: /join #ubuntu-id
[15:12] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ also on facebook         https://www.facebook.com/Forum.Ubuntu.Indonesia
[15:12] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: that channel is empty
[15:12] <OerHeks> yes, #ubuntu-id is a dead channel
[15:13] <SimonNL> thank you
[15:14] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/keep what i do
[15:14] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ email or Facebook the Ubuntu Indonesia teams.
[15:17] <Alio88> how can I get network manager going again please?
[15:18] <tomreyn> hi Alio88. what kind of network conneciton do you have there?
[15:18] <tomreyn> wireless lan, ethernet, something else?
[15:19] <Alio88> wireless
[15:19] <tomreyn> Alio88: did you see what others told you so far?
[15:19] <Alio88> yes ok
[15:19] <tomreyn> Alio88: so did you create a new connection profile, yet?
[15:20] <Alio88> no how do you do that?
[15:20] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version do you have there?
[15:20] <hacktivis> help me please
[15:20] <hacktivis> me cyber newbie
[15:20] <cfhowlett> hacktivis/ https://www.facebook.com/Forum.Ubuntu.Indonesia
[15:21] <cfhowlett> http://www.ubuntu-id.org/
[15:21] <Alio88> mate desktop environment 1.20.1
[15:21] <tomreyn> Alio88: what does   lsb_release -ds   report?
[15:21] <tomreyn> run this in a terminal, please
[15:22] <Yatekii> hmm after the update from 17.10 to 18.04 I lost like 4GB of space ... is that normal?
[15:22] <hacktivis> cfhowlett/and do you know how
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> hacktivis: open a browser and goto the link
[15:23] <Yatekii> flatpack uses 2GB of space for nothing ... I don't even use it ...
[15:23] <tomreyn> Yatekii: maybe you need yet to    sudo apt update && sudo apt --purge autoremove
[15:23] <Alio88> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[15:24] <Yatekii> tomreyn: hmm where do apt files usually reside in? because I am pretyt sure I did the autoremove :/
[15:24] <tomreyn> Alio88: okay, so on the top right conrner you have a way to manage the network connection, right?
[15:25] <tomreyn> Yatekii: what this command i provided does is to uninstall software which is no longer needed, including their configurations, packages may install files in various locations, so there is no easy answer to this.
[15:25] <Alio88> no the icon is not there
[15:25] <hacktivis> latuspychje/what link
[15:25] <tomreyn> Alio88: which desktop environment did you say you have? mate?
[15:25] <Alio88> i had to connect manually with nmcli
[15:26] <Alio88> yea mate
[15:26] <Yatekii> tomreyn: yeah I know, but I feel like tehre is some weird cahe or tmp files still floating
[15:26] <hacktivis> latuspychje>what link
[15:26] <hacktivis> help me please
[15:26] <hacktivis> me cyber newbie
[15:27] <leftyfb> hacktivis: https://www.facebook.com/Forum.Ubuntu.Indonesia   http://www.ubuntu-id.org/
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> hacktivis: you can stop trolling now
[15:27] <leftyfb> hacktivis: stop
[15:27] <tomreyn> what's the output of :  apt list ubuntu-mate-desktop
[15:27] <tomreyn> Alio88: ^
[15:28] <hacktivis> latuspychje>what??
[15:28] <leftyfb> hacktivis: /part
[15:28] <hacktivis> i was talking using translate
[15:29] <Alio88> ubuntu-mate-desktop/bionic,now 1.225 amd64 [installed]
[15:29] <tomreyn> Yatekii: something you can do is remove the system logging daemon (rsyslog) and all logs it writes, since you can just use systemd-journal now.
[15:29] <hacktivis> latuspychje>i was talking using translate
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> hacktivis: come join in #test please
[15:30] <tomreyn> Yatekii: utilities like ncdu and baobab can help you find out where space is allocated. this said, i don't find an extra 4 GB particularly much, really. this may just be fine as it is.
[15:30] <Yatekii> tomreyn: yeah, I'll see :) thx! It's just weird it now uses 4GB more and considering that I only have 28GB space that's kinda bad
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Yatekii/ did you install next to your former OS?
[15:30] <Yatekii> 4GB is riddiculously much lol. it didn't add any new features/content at all
[15:30] <Yatekii> cfhowlett: yes, I have a gentoo alongside.
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | Yatekii
[15:31] <OerHeks> remove that flatpack?
[15:31] <Yatekii> I did remove flatpack, but I wasn't sure whether I should or not ;)
[15:32] <Yatekii> lotuspsychje: will check that out, thx
[15:32] <OerHeks> Yatekii, ofcourse, and instal the snap version, so you would get updates
[15:33] <dirtycajun> an fsck on 120TB is going to take weeks isnt it...
[15:33] <lordcirth_> dirtycajun, depends, what filesystem? Number of files is generally more important than size.
[15:33] <tomreyn> Alio88: hmm, i'm not so familiar with mate, maybe you can ask in #ubuntu-mate, too. i assume there is some system settings application, which lets you configure network connections. do you have that?
[15:34] <dirtycajun> lordcirth_ ext4. Got the "filesystem needs to be cleaned" and started an fsck about 60 hours ago. It has fixed 1 of the 9 inodes containing multiply-claimed blocks. At that speed im terrified of how long it could take
[15:35] <lordcirth_> dirtycajun, how many drives did you raid to get 120TB?
[15:36] <dirtycajun> its 120TB Used. Its 288 raw. 3xRAID6 MDADM in groups of 12x8TB drives -> LVM
[15:37] <dirtycajun> so 240 usable. 120 used.
[15:38] <OerHeks> dirtycajun, grab some food, learn a language, in between
[15:39] <lordcirth_> dirtycajun, in future I'd recommend ZFS.
[15:39] <blackflow> hear hear!
[15:40] <dirtycajun> haha! i mean i have to work :P i just wish that -v was actually verbose... it sits silent between questions. and hindsight yes probably but its a bit late now for that decision :/
[15:41] <dirtycajun> id be less ansy if there was more telling me what it was doing than 1 process pegging 100% of one core
[15:41] <blackflow> dirtycajun: at that scale, you're guaranteed to have at least one bit corrupt. not running something like ZFS at that scale is borderline irresponsible :)
[15:41] <blackflow> (plus, zfs scrub has a nice progress bar)
[15:42] <blackflow> ((well okay, it's a nice progress printout, not literally a bar, when you `zpool status`))
[15:44] <dirtycajun> realistically id need to order the amazon snowball to even do the migration and even at perfect theoretical read/write it would take 2 weeks each direction
[15:50] <tomreyn> do you have irqbalance installed?
[15:50] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: ^
[15:51] <dirtycajun> tomreyn i do
[15:53] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: here's how you get a progress report on e2fsck: https://serverfault.com/questions/118791/how-do-you-get-e2fsck-to-show-progress-information
[15:59] <buckworst> hello! i've been having a small problem with ubuntu 19.04: for some reason, the battery icon on the taskbar doesn't update in real time when i plug or unplug my charger, and neither does upower, but i can confirm that charging itself works normally. this isn't replicable under manjaro and antergos (that i've tried so far, but hesitant to use the two in favor of ubuntu).
[15:59] <buckworst> perhaps anyone can explain why, and maybe help me out?
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: there's a few tests you can do, like check if a liveusb 18.04 shows battery
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: or install a battery measure program to compare with the one from ubuntu
[16:03] <buckworst> i'll load up ubuntu 18.04 on my usb and see if the problem persists -- however may i ask what's the latter for exactly?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: to see if your battery fill in realtime, to compare with your ubuntu battery stats
[16:06] <gareppa> installing 18.04, can i have full disk encryption and separate home folder ?
[16:08] <rudeguy> hi, how can i find what's the application name of a menu entry?
[16:08] <tomreyn> gareppa: sure. separate /home requires manual partitioning or doing it post installation
[16:08] <tomreyn> gareppa: i'm assuming desktop installer here
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> !info ibam | buckworst ibam -a (for example)
[16:09] <PCatinean> hey guys, when I do ps - aux I see the process and the command but the command is so big it's truncated and I can't see it completely
[16:09] <PCatinean> any advice on how I can view the full thing?
[16:09] <buckworst> lotuspsychje: thanks, i'll make sure to do that as well. can i install packages on a live usb, by the way?
[16:10] <solderfumes> PCatinean: lazy solution: `ps -aux | cat` - output is no longer a terminal, so ps won't truncate
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: a liveusb is more for testing purposes, as the system is not up to date yet before install
[16:11] <blackflow> PCatinean: ps has -w flag, check the manpage on how to use it
[16:14] <PCatinean> solderfumes, still seems to truncate
[16:15] <PCatinean> ah got it, it's -ww
[16:15] <gareppa> tomreyn, yes desktop
[16:15] <PCatinean> thanks guys!
[16:15] <solderfumes> works for me (`$ ps --version
[16:15] <solderfumes> ps from procps-ng 3.3.15`)
[16:16] <blackflow> don't abuse cats pls. :)
[16:16] <dirtycajun> tomreyn is it just going to magically start outputting something at some point?
[16:17] <solderfumes> blackflow: oh I haven't even begun, wait 'till you se me use `find | grep`
[16:19] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: when the running e2fsck process received the USR1 signal, it should report its current progress quite instantly.
[16:20] <tomreyn> (however, if it works single threaded, and this cpu core is busy already, it could take a while)
[16:22] <dirtycajun> killall -USR1 fsck.ext4
[16:23] <tomreyn> should be e2fsck rather
[16:24] <buckworst> lotuspsychje: i have checked -- it seems to update faster than upower to say the least.
[16:24] <buckworst> what else can i do?
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: on bionic or ibam?
[16:24] <buckworst> ibam
[16:25] <buckworst> i haven't tried bionic -- will try it out and keep you updated
[16:25] <dirtycajun> tomreyn but there is no e2fsck running
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: well if they dont match, you can consider filing a new !bug
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: another option you can try, is update bios to latest to rule that out
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: but if it differs now, its likely to be a 19.04 bug
[16:26] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: okay, /sbin/fsck.ext4 is really a symlink to e2fsck, i was thinking it's just a wrapper script. then it's fine.
[16:27] <dirtycajun> Tried USR1 and SIGUSR1 and both the command aas well as the PID. Ill give it 30 min or so and see if it caches up
[16:27] <rudeguy> https://i.imgur.com/O0dEsed.png how can i fix these two apps? i don't even understand what evolution calendar is...
[16:27] <buckworst> lotuspsychje: i have the latest bios already, i'm going to try out 18.04 and see if i can reproduce the same issue. cheers
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> buckworst: good luck!
[16:41] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: did you have a look at dmesg, smartctl -x? maybe there are (physical) disk i/o issues, this could explain the slowness
[16:42] <AlexPortable> E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock, is another process using it?
[16:43] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: yes
[16:43] <AlexPortable> I have nothing opened. gnome system monitor shows systemd is writing to disk
[16:43] <AlexPortable> how do i kill that process?
[16:43] <AlexPortable> dconf-service is also using some disk
[16:45] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: what does this report?   sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend
[16:45] <tomreyn> you probably don't want to the other process if you can still control it, or it runs automatically.
[16:45] <AlexPortable> warning cvan't stat fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1001/gvfs. output information can be imcomplete
[16:45] <AlexPortable> unattende 2264 root 5uW REG 8,1 0 5374543 /var/lib/dpkg/lock-front-end
[16:46] <tomreyn> unattended-upgrades are running in the background, wait for them to complete
[16:47] <AlexPortable> how do i disable that?
[16:47] <dirtycajun> tomreyn nothing in dmesg. and all smartcl show passed
[16:47] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, wait untill finished, then you can disable it completely https://linuxconfig.org/disable-automatic-updates-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[16:48] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: you can uninstall the package, but then you may no longer get updates automatically, or may have to wait longer while they download.
[16:48] <AlexPortable> i'm on a testing machine
[16:48] <AlexPortable> to test software, not to instlal updates
[16:48] <AlexPortable> every time this machine gets deployed i have to wait until updates are done, which takes a long time lol
[16:49] <lordcirth_> AlexPortable, what are you deploying from? Perhaps you should bundle the updates
[16:49] <OerHeks> not sure if Debian gives the same solution :-P
[16:49] <lordcirth_> Debian?
[16:49] <AlexPortable> VM snapshot
[16:50] <lordcirth_> AlexPortable, so do updates and then snapshot again?
[16:50] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: are you saying you just ran smartctl -x on 36 disks, and reviewed the output throroughly, and all of this took you less than 6 minutes?
[16:52] <dirtycajun> no simply for i in /dev/sd[a-z] /dev/sda[a-z]; do smartctl -x $i | grep "overall-health"; done
[16:55] <tomreyn> since a-z are just 24 characters, i guess you missed some drives, but i guess checking just overall health makes sense on this scale.
[16:55] <shazbotmcnasty> Hello. I just did the upgrade from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, and I'm missing some files from /usr/bin now that used to be there. Do they get moved somewhere? It broke my Unifi controller software and I'd rather fix it than reinstall it and restore from a backup.
[16:56] <shazbotmcnasty> As the backup is a week ago and we've done several installations since then.
[16:56] <dirtycajun> tomreyn its a-az
[16:56] <tomreyn> oops
[16:56] <dirtycajun> :P
[16:57] <dirtycajun> And to be clear... i have no problem deleting the 9 inodes that have issues and pulling them from backup. is there a much faster way to get those inodes and i just delete them and we are good? or is fsck doing more than that
[16:59] <OerHeks> shazbotmcnasty, non ubuntu packages are disabled during upgrade, reinstall that thingy
[16:59] <OerHeks> likely they are removed
[17:01] <shazbotmcnasty> OerHeks: Darn.
[17:02] <ioria> shazbotmcnasty, why don't you check the upgrade logs ?
[17:02] <shazbotmcnasty> i can do that. the one /var/log/dist-upgrade/ ones eh?
[17:02] <ioria> yep
[17:04] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: you can clear them using debugfs' interactive "clri" command. but that's from ext2 times, i don't know whether it's save to use this with ext4.
[17:05] <dirtycajun> as an update i still dont have a progress bar. sigh.
[17:07] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: just let it sit, and revisit it later. spend your time on considering alternatives to your current setup (which is not ideal)
[17:18] <boba_> hi
[17:19] <boba_> Anyone ther e
[17:19] <OerHeks> 1500+ are
[17:19] <OerHeks> !ask
[17:19] <boba_> can you
[17:19] <boba_> read my messagw
[17:20] <hggdh> boba_: yes, we can read you. Also, Please do not use ENTER as a separator
[17:20] <boba_> ty
[17:21] <boba_> howdo i not be a seperator
[17:21] <boba_> hggdh
[17:22] <hggdh> boba_: ask your question in one single line
[17:22] <boba_> ok
[17:35] <chull> Where does my husband need to go to get Adobe Flash Player for his ubuntu 18.04?
[17:36] <chull> is there something in Ubuntu already or just the Adobe page?
[17:38] <DJones> !flash | chull I'm not sure how up to date this is, but might help
[17:38] <bgProccess> hi. on my ubuntu server, i need to run a command in background and i use & (command:> instabot-py & ) but still have this problem: https://imgur.com/a/vARa3KY
[17:38] <chull> Thanks DJones :)
[17:41] <tomreyn> bgProccess: the proper way to automatically start processes on boot and keep them running is a service / daemon. what you're doing can be done if it's just for testing / just temporarily. you may want to redirect the output (stdout and stderr) to a file.
[17:42] <tomreyn> you could also run it in a temrinal multiplexer, without backgorunding it.
[17:43] <bgProccess> tomreyn: Thanks. multiplexer on ubuntu server?
[17:44] <hggdh> bgProccess: like byobu
[17:44] <tomreyn> bgProccess: sure, why not?
[17:46] <buckworst> lotuspsychje: sadly 18.04 still exhibits the same problem as well - i should probably try submitting a bug report. thanks anyway
[17:46] <bgProccess> tomreyn: because my server is hosted by google clould platform and whenever after running the process and closing the window, it doesn't work anymore. So you think byobu can help?
[17:47] <ioria> screen
[17:48] <rfm> bgProccess, if your problem is that the process dies when you close the terminal, you probably just need nohup.  I like to run in a subshell too, so "(nohup command &)"
[17:48] <bgProccess> rfm: thump:up
[17:49] <bgProccess> rfm: Thanks.
[17:50] <tomreyn> bgProccess: nohup is an option, a temrinal multiplexer such as byobu, tmux, screen is (IMO) a much nicer option.
[17:51] <bgProccess> tomreyn: Alright. But what about daemon / service? I have to create them? how does it work? (just need a tiny help)
[17:53] <tomreyn> bgProccess: you'd want a systemd service, that's something to look up.
[17:54] <tomreyn> systemd.service(5)
[17:57] <bgProccess> tomreyn: Thanks. Now I've got it ;)
[17:57] <tomreyn> :)
[17:58] <bgProccess> tomreyn: but still i don't get it about 'byobu'. lets say i install it on my server and now I have need to close the window so the proccess the i want will be killed!? Wont it?
[18:03] <tomreyn> bgProccess: you don't exit the terminal multiplexer, you just detach from it.
[18:03] <tomreyn> this way the processes you started in it remain running.
[18:04] <tomreyn> but again: if you want your bot to start with the rest of the system and remain running (get restarted if needed)
[18:04] <tomreyn> ... then you want a systemd service
[18:04] <dirtycajun> tomreyn, so after staring at my output for this pass so far (https://hastebin.com/raw/luguduruga) wouldnt it be fair to assume that once it gets to the 2nd file the others only being a few inodes incremented would come shortly after?
[18:05] <bgProccess> tomreyn: Now I got it :P
[18:08] <tomreyn> dirtycajun: only if you could assume that inodes were processed serially.
[18:09] <AlexPortable> is it safe to remove package geoclue?
[18:10] <lordcirth_> AlexPortable, should be. It's not installed on my system, and only a few programs use it
[18:11] <AlexPortable> i was thinking if the privacy part of the ubuntu settings use it
[18:13] <Darwinggl> Hello! I'm connected thru a 2400 baud modem and just want to see if it works
[18:13] <lordcirth_> AlexPortable, well, if you try to remove it, it will tell you if anything else would be removed
[18:13] <lordcirth_> Darwinggl, nice
[18:15] <Apachez> Kryptron: nope, the package cache is empty through both apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[18:19] <tomreyn> so, i compared the  ext4 file system features set on a filesystem created on 16.04 to those created on 18.04. and i notice these have changed:  +64bit -uninit_bg +metadata_csum
[18:20] <tomreyn> would anyone know why uninit_bg was removed?
[18:21] <lordcirth_> tomreyn, because +metadata_csum replaces it
[18:21] <tomreyn> that's what i hoped you'd say, lordcirth_ ;-)
[18:23] <bgProccess> tomreyn: byobu rocks! damn! :)
[18:25] <JohnGavr> Hello guys, anyone from Greece here/
[18:25] <JohnGavr> ?
[18:27] <ayekat> !ask | JohnGavr
[18:28] <OerHeks> JohnGavr, we don't do greek, join #ubuntu-gr
[18:36] <nikolam> Hi I moved to 19.04 today and I now hear something like "cracks" on the speakers, sometimes, sounds like when system is booting and like sound system reinitialize itself...
[18:37] <nikolam> I think this woudl be the problem because it is not normal for system to reinitialize sound, when it were already working and because those "cracks" on speakers are very loud and could wake up people in the room unintentionally
[18:39] <nikolam> Here are my kernel modules: https://bpaste.net/show/47bd76637a55
[18:41] <OerHeks> crackling sound, do not turn up volume to 100%, use good cables, make sure your system/powerplug has proper grounding
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: Also, make sure the line input and mic input channels on the sounds settings are disabled.
[18:45] <nikolam> When I opened sound settings / audio mixer and Volume contorl windows is opened, I here the same "audio initialization" cracking.
[18:47] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, all I see on Input devices is "monitor of Bult-in Analog Stereo"
[18:48] <nikolam> When I start Audacity I also hear cracks at least 4 times while it is starting.
[18:48] <nikolam> Also cracks when I open preferences...
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: I gave you a suggestion on what to look for. It's up to you to take it further on your own. In the sound settings look for options regarding the Mic and Line inputs. Try toggling them to mute those channels.
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: Everything you have spoken to "sounds" like interference, which is common in computer sound cards
[18:50] <OerHeks> power interference, not a driver/setting issue, never seen a driver fixing crackling sound
[18:50] <nikolam> As said, I see no input devices in Volume control>Input devices. Maybe of interest is that I am on Xfce DE/Xubuntu?
[18:51] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, were not having those cracks at all during use, before updating to 19.04. I believe I had them only when starting computer
[18:52] <nikolam> And "cracks" are started by any interaction with the sound, like, opening settings. And also before VLC play , so every addressing audio by any system, results in cracks
[18:54] <nikolam> No cracks when playing another audio, while some audio was already playing.
[18:54] <nikolam> Also cracks after closing player
[18:54] <nikolam> Audio device	Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[18:56] <exell> Hi, I have an external hard drive that was working fine, but I wiped my computer and when I reconnect the drive I cannot write to it or transfer files to it, but I can open it and look at it
[18:56] <OerHeks> just a test, shutdown your machine, pull the powerplug, hold the powerbutton for 10 seconds, and boot again .. if that fixes it, it was just a build-up of energy in a not so good grounded machine
[18:57] <gambl0r3> how do you improve battery life with linux? i installed tlp and im still getting crap battery life
[18:57] <OerHeks> exell, what type of partition(s) are on that ext hdd?
[18:57] <gambl0r3> is it just how it is with linux?
[18:57] <gambl0r3> OerHeks, what partitions
[18:57] <gambl0r3> i only have one
[18:58] <OerHeks> gambl0r3, not for you.
[18:58] <nikolam> OerHeks, I will try that, yet, I still bet it's the software/sound system. Let me shutdown and try that.
[18:58] <exell> OerHeks Linux
[19:00] <ioria> gambl0r3, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/slimbook-battery-optimizer-ubuntu
[19:01] <OerHeks> i do not like crossposters ..
[19:01] <gambl0r3> ioria, cool thanks
[19:01] <ioria> ok
[19:01] <gambl0r3> it seems like it will conflict with tlp but ill try anyways
[19:02] <gambl0r3> :)
[19:02] <exell> OerKeks It's ext4 (Linux) after further checking
[19:03] <OerHeks> exell, oke, chown that drive to your current user/gid
[19:05] <OerHeks> sudo chown -R username /media/something
[19:08] <nikolam> OerHeks, I tried what you said, with 10 seconds of holding power on after pulling the power plug. It is the same aftewards. Cracks when starting, cracks when logging in, cracks every time audio is touched by any app and settings (also cracking by itself from time to time)
[19:10] <exell> OerHeks I'm having some issues, it wont mount anymore it shows on lsblk -f but it doesn't have a /media anymore?
[19:11] <exell> OerHeks this is through file manager error > An error occurred while accessing '1,009.8 GiB Removable Media', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error creating mount point `/media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006': Input/output error
[19:12] <ioria> exell, is that a storage disk or what ?
[19:12] <exell> external hard drive
[19:12] <ioria> exell, ok, but for data not for an OS, right ?
[19:13] <ioria> exell, i mean: what's on that disk ?
[19:13] <exell> ioria correct, its an external hard drive mounted with ext4 it worked perfectly before but I done a system wipe and now could access (not anymore) but couldn't write to it
[19:14] <ioria> exell,  ok, unplug, plug again and paste  dmesg | tail -30
[19:15] <ioria> exell,   dmesg | tail -30 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:16] <qwebirc72133> Hey I got an fujitsu primergy rx200 s7 (server) here. But can not install ubuntu. I can boot in live system. But in gparted I don't see the disk (none of the 3 hdds)
[19:16] <qwebirc72133> What can be the reason?
[19:16] <ioria> raid
[19:17] <exell> ioria https://termbin.com/wual
[19:17] <nikolam> It's 19.04 problem cracking with audio . It is snd_hda_intel module and NM10/ICH7 (rev 01)
[19:17] <qwebirc72133> ioria: do I have to configure the raid before?
[19:18] <ioria> qwebirc72133, i think (not sure) you need to set your bios sata settings to 'ahci'
[19:19] <ioria> exell, not good
[19:19] <ioria> exell, mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:20] <exell> ioria https://termbin.com/jzra
[19:22] <OerHeks> that /dev/nvme0n1p4 on /media/exell/EC24EFA624EF724E type fuseblk (ro ...   read only?
[19:24] <ioria> exell, are we talking about sdd ?
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: In terminal, open "alsamixer"
[19:25] <ioria> exell, and /dev/sdc1 on 2 mountpoints ???
[19:26] <ioria> exell,  please paste your /etc/fstab
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: tab to each device and make sure all of them are set to MM (for mute, pressing m to toggle) Then, one by one un-mute a channel and test. If one of them starts to crackle when you have unmutted, it's because there is interferance on that channel.
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: Re-mute that channel and continue testing until you have tested all the channels. Then restore the settings the way they were when you started. Primary culprits are usually any channel with Mic in the name or Line Out
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: sorry, not tab, but arrow key... tabe switches pages
[19:30] <exell> ioria not ssd
[19:30] <ioria> what ?
[19:31] <exell> the nvme drives are main linux and windows, the issue is on the sdd drive
[19:32] <ioria> exell,  please paste your /etc/fstab
[19:32] <exell> sda1 is a secondard ssd drive nvme is the primary ssd... sdd is a mechanical 2tb external formatted with 1x ext4 linux partition and 1x ntfs partition
[19:32] <Johan66> holaaa
[19:33] <tomreyn> Johan66: welcome to the ubuntu support channel.
[19:33] <exell> ioria can you help on how to paste /etc/fstab?
[19:33] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, I have put everything in alsamixer to 0 and after that to mute (m key) . Cracking continue even if Master is muted and everything is muted.
[19:33] <ioria> exell, cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:34] <exell> ioria https://termbin.com/ljdy
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: Are there any other audio devices attached to the computer, other than the cable running to the speakers?
[19:35] <ioria> exell, ls -alR /media | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:35] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, not anymore, I had microphone but I disconnected and cracking continues. Cracking starts by software.
[19:36] <exell> ioria https://termbin.com/wwcq
[19:36] <nikolam> I only had ckacking before 19.04 when starting computer, therfore, I am thinking it is initializing sound more often now.
[19:37] <ioria> exell, something wrong
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: What you just described is a symptom of interferance... software has nothing to do with the cracking noises you hear. You have a faulty component in your computer and the circuitry in the sound card is picking it up.
[19:38] <nikolam> Motherboard is Asus P5W DH Deluxe , audio is intel integrated ICH7
[19:38] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, how you explain it is non-existent in 18.04 and 18.10 and cracking is there on 19.04
[19:38] <exell> ioria would it be easier to just wipe the drive and start again, what partition format would be best for storing files (video / documents) from a linux box when I format the partition?
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: You just said it existed before when you would boot the computer. That means the OS has nothing to do with it
[19:39] <ioria> exell, you should have a lot of devices mounted on /media ..   please paste 'mount' again
[19:39] <nikolam> I don't agree pragmaticenigma . I have also Btrfs snapshots of 18.04 I used for a very long time and 18.10 that upgraded through toward 19.04 .
[19:40] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, it existed ONLY when starting OS. Not after that.
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> nikolam: Then downgrade to 18.04 and see if the problem persists.
[19:40] <nikolam> Now it is there on every sound or just reading sound settings or anything with sound. And also from time to time if not any sound is used.
[19:41] <nikolam> pragmaticenigma, I can boot 18.04 again and 18.10 too again and report but I remember it like said. Ok, rebooting..
[19:41] <tomreyn> ioria: i think those mounts with "uhelper=udisks2" option were mounted on demand / upon request / by the desktop environment. here's exell's mounts, consolidated: https://termbin.com/18zy
[19:42] <ioria> tomreyn, ok, but his /media directory is empty ....
[19:42] <ioria> totally
[19:43] <tomreyn> oh, i haven't seen that
[19:43] <tomreyn> actually exell just left
[19:44] <ioria> i see
[19:44] <exell> ioria... just gave a system reboot there to see what happens
[19:44] <ioria> ok
[19:45] <tomreyn> /dev/sdd1 was mounted on tpo off /media in the end, so if that's an empty file system, /media would seem empty-
[19:45] <tomreyn> *top
[19:45] <ioria> over-mounted maybe
[19:45] <tomreyn> yes
[19:46] <ioria> but it should automounts ...
[19:46] <tomreyn> what should automount where?
[19:46] <ioria> the external drive on /media/user
[19:46] <exell> im re-running, its going into all the subfolders (which are timeshift snapshots) and throwing 'permission denied' but its doing more stuff this time
[19:47] <tomreyn> can't mount to /media/user if there is (due to an empty FS mounted on /media) no /media/user
[19:48] <ioria> exell, let's do this, umount / disconnect all the drives except the sdd
[19:49] <exell> done.. but most drives are internal
[19:49] <exell> how can i take ownership of the drive as it was from previous install?
[19:49] <exell> i can't delete timeshift folder
[19:50] <ioria> exell, ls -alR /media | nc termbin.com 9999   again please
[19:51] <exell> ioria.. doing now, this might take a while... its going through loads of timeshift backups (and I cant delete the folder) and producing 'permission denied'
[19:52] <ioria> exell, really, i'am heading out but i'am sure tomreyn will help you solve this
[19:53] <tomreyn> hmm, i can try, but would need another summary.
[19:54] <tomreyn> also:   grep ^/dev/ /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:55] <exell> tomreyn https://termbin.com/g3by
[19:57] <eusid> I am having an issue with my firewire card. All of a sudden it will only play audio from one app at a time. I've resolved this in windows before but not familiar on Ubuntu. I've gotten the various tools pavucontrol and alsamixer and none of them provide the option I'm looking for.
[19:57] <tomreyn> exell: so what are you trying to achieve?
[19:58] <exell> tomreyn, the drive wont let me write to it, I can read but not write, but it eventually stopped working until I rebooted
[19:58] <eusid> The card is old so a hardware issue is not out of the question, but I find it really strange and the only way to change applications is to restart pulseaudio and alsa after closing the last app that was using sound.
[19:58] <shibboleth> why is ub still messing around with wpad 2.6?
[19:59] <shibboleth> 2.7 has been out since... looong time ago. wpad 2.6 is what broke mac randomization in xenial
[19:59] <tomreyn> exell: which drive?
[19:59] <exell> tomreyn /media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006
[20:00] <leftyfb> shibboleth: wpad?
[20:00] <shibboleth> wpa_supplicant
[20:00] <exell> tomreyn it was mounted on a previous install and will let me read but not write to it
[20:00] <shibboleth> even 19.04 has 2.6
[20:00] <leftyfb> !latest | shibboleth
[20:01] <tomreyn> exell: so you're saying the ext4 file system on the first partition of sdc (/dev/sdc1), currently mounted at /media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006 in readable and writable mode, is what you can't write to?
[20:01] <leftyfb> shibboleth: also, see #debian
[20:01] <exell> tomreyn yeah, cant move files / create folders / delete folders just doesn't work
[20:03] <tomreyn> exell: ls -ld /media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006 | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:04] <exell> https://termbin.com/e8vo
[20:04] <tomreyn> exell: id | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:04] <exell> https://termbin.com/9gzd
[20:05] <tomreyn> exell: the directory /media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006 is owned by user "root", group "root". others, like your user "excell", are allowed to read what's in there, but not to write to it.
[20:06] <exell> tomreyn makes sense, do you know how i can take ownership of it?
[20:06] <tomreyn> exell: you can either change who owns all (or some of) the things (files, directories,...) on this file system, or set them up to be allowed to be written to by anyone.
[20:07] <tomreyn> exell: if you'll take ownership of them, then only your user (and root) will be allowed to read + write, not anyone else, does this seem to make sense?
[20:08] <exell> tomreyn, yeah thats fine. Do you know how I could go about doing this?
[20:09] <tomreyn> exell: make very sure you copy and paste this properly:   sudo chown -R exell:exell /media/exell/72b28a6a-a645-4dfd-89e6-d87052a34006/
[20:10] <exell> tomreyn its working away, does that work with any drive?
[20:13] <tomreyn> exell: i don't want to give you a wholesale guarantee there that this would always be the right approach. ;-)
[20:15] <tomreyn> exell: also, the term "drive", to me, refers to a pyhsical storage, like a hard disk drive. however, what we just worked on is a file system, backed by a partition, backed by a partition table, backed by a physical drive.
[20:16] <exell> tomreyn, no worries, im learning more about linux every day. not bad for only 5 months :D
[20:17] <tomreyn> yes :)
[20:22] <tomreyn> exell: as you notice, linux file systems like ext4 can be a lot more picky about who may do what where than you may be used to from, say, ntfs, where, by default, except on the system drive, everyone can just write everywhere. that's mostly meant to increase security (which can help it a lot if handled properly).
[20:23] <tomreyn> this is also one of the more difficult things to learn when you're coming from a system which did not enforce file system permissions and ownerships much.
[20:24] <exell> tomreyn yeah, its just learning the commands, it's still working on the chown atm there are many files in the timeshift folders but I cant delete until I get ownership of them
[20:26] <tomreyn> exellhmm i have 0 experience with timeshift, hopefully the chown doesn't break the functionality
[20:26] <TJ-> Dont' forget ACLs, they can help without altering the FS owner/modes
[20:27] <AlexPortable> Is there a desktop interface like gnome fallback (or maybe even the default ubuntu one), which shows what you have open with text (instead of icons) and without grouping? Basically like this: https://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/546d1226605261-taskbar-button-grouping-enable-disable-not_always_grouped.jpg
[20:27] <AlexPortable> instead of this: https://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/544d1226605261-taskbar-button-grouping-enable-disable-always_grouped.jpg
[20:30] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, gnome3 does that by default, grouping on the side panel, with red dots
[20:30] <AlexPortable> yes that's what i not want
[20:30] <OerHeks> but not with text
[20:30] <AlexPortable> i want to see the text
[20:31] <AlexPortable> and not combined
[20:31] <OerHeks> look for, or write a gnome3 extention that shows text?
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[20:42] <Arc_Night> hi testing
[20:53] <Yatekii> hmm folks, after the update from 17.10 to 18.10 my trackpad rightclick stopped working ... is there any such known bug?
[20:53] <Yatekii> I can't find yna ysetting for it at all
[20:53] <Yatekii> *find any setting
[20:57] <tomreyn> Yatekii: that's a late upgrade if you just did it now, 17.10 has been unsupported for a looong while. how did you upgrade?
[20:57] <tomreyn> Yatekii: and why did you decide to stop upgrading further once you reached 18.10?
[20:58] <xamithan> Didn't we talk about this yesterday?  Did you check out this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/p48nA.jpg
[20:58] <Yatekii> tomreyn: it was still the distro dell delivered I think ... I used the system tool (UI) which recommended the upgrade because repos for 17.10 went down today so I was forced to upgrade
[20:59] <OerHeks> xamithan, +1
[20:59] <Yatekii> tomreyn: I ran out of time that's why I stopped :D I wanna push to 19.04 later but disk space is sparse :D I need to extend the partition but I feel lazy ^^
[20:59] <Yatekii> xamithan: was not me at least
[21:00] <xamithan> Ah,  may just be a common problem then
[21:03] <Yatekii> xamithan: hmm ok I just installed that (I remember having used it once, kind of a joke ubuntu doesn't offer that setting, but then again, one tool for one job ^^)
[21:04] <Yatekii> xamithan: I did fix the setting but still doesn't work, Imma relog real quick and see whether that fixes it
[21:04] <xamithan> Yeah it needs a relog
[21:20] <catbadger> heyo! I am setting up ssmtp to send emails for php. can't remember how to set it as the default sender.
[21:20] <catbadger> anyone?
[21:21] <catbadger> #lternatives --config mta
[21:21] <catbadger> #alternatives --config mta
[21:21] <catbadger> answered
[21:25] <catbadger> ugh i was wrong
[21:27] <catbadger> how do i do this now? # alternatives --config mta
[21:28] <leftyfb> catbadger: if you didn't have any other MTA's installed, then you should be fine
[21:30] <leftyfb> catbadger: https://www.kuhnline.com/phpmail/
[21:30] <leftyfb> catbadger: https://androus.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/config-ssmtp-as-mail-forwarder-on-php-ini-mail-function/
[21:36] <Yatekii> xamithan: works absolutely great, thx
[21:38] <chakravanti> SO let's say I have a laptop I just replaced the disk on and have a USB slot that can connect to the old SSD.  Both systems are encrypted over LUKS.  For some reason the disks doesn't view it as viewable even though I have accurately decrypted it already.  I think it's due to being ID'd the same as "/dev/ubuntu-vg/root" but IDK.  Anyone got a clue how to mount it?  Not really necessary just a pain to reboot half a
[21:38] <chakravanti> dozen times getting old files out which I'm sure I have just wanted to compare it like this to be sure.
[21:39] <ryuo> chakravanti: manual way.
[21:40] <ryuo> but it depends on how it was setup.
[21:42] <chakravanti> ryuo standard installs on both for encrypting.  Didn't even arrange the partition specially
[21:43] <ryuo> that's greek to me, but you can try 'mount' if you can identify the device with the actual FS.
[21:45] <catbadger> leftyfb - dev didn't tell me php was in docker... smh
[21:45] <catbadger> used a wordpress plugin for smtp instead. thanks though
[21:58] <Gamerappa> hi
[22:30] <TJ-> chakravanti: are you saying there are two separate devices both having the same LVM VG name ?
[22:38] <chakravanti> TJ- right since they were both install by ubuntu the same way (standard LVM encryption via live USB, not even partition allocated specially)
[22:51] <tomreyn> chakravanti: the easy approach is to rename one of the volume groups, preferrably the one you don't need to boot from anymore (since renaming one you need to boot from would involve further steps)
[22:52] <tomreyn> chakravanti: the more complex approach is to use LVM UUIDs to specify LVs.    sudo lvdisplay | grep -E 'LV (Path|UUID)'; file /dev/disk/by-id/dm-uuid-LVM-*
[23:00] <TJ-> chakravanti: as well as tomreyn's suggestion, you could add a 'tag' to one of them (via the underlying PV), and then use the tag as a selector for 'vgchange -ay [tag]'
[23:01] <bfhsoftware> hello! anyone cant help me?, i try for 5 hours! when i put fbset -i in "accel no" and i need that seys "yes"
[23:18] <gambl0r3> vlc uses high cpu ubuntu. any ideas?
[23:21] <OerHeks> gnome-mpv is much lighter
[23:22] <OerHeks> and all depends on hardware .. and kind of source
[23:30] <Dafting> Hi all!
[23:30] <Dafting> Someone here can help me with GRUB_BADRAM setting up?
[23:31] <Dafting> I have a laptop with RAM soldered to mobo and it's a bit faulty
[23:31] <stevendale_> Dafting, Laptop's dead
[23:31] <Dafting> No, it's not, trust me, i can use a lot of things without any problem
[23:32] <Dafting> I know i have to think in searching a new laptop, but that's not the deal.
[23:41] <TJ-> Dafting: see https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/badram.html
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[23:55] <zap0> how do i turn off some of these new stupid features in the 19.04....  the file manager no longer shows me the date of files
[23:59] <qwebirc63353> "Releases" page on the wiki has a broken link to disco release notes. Looks like I don't have permission to edit.