[03:32] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !Woesb is <reply> Woeusb is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. You can install the snap with: sudo snap install --edge woe-usb
[03:32] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !winusb is delete please, no longer valid
[03:41] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !Woeusb is <reply> Woeusb is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. You can install the snap with: sudo snap install --edge woe-usb
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[17:04] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, tomreyn said: !aptitude is <reply> Like 'apt' and 'apt-get', 'aptitude' is an APT package management utility for the terminal. Unlike the others, aptitude lacks compatibility with modern APT (https://pad.lv/b/u/aptitude), so its use is now discouraged.
[17:21] <dax> ^ this is not particularly true
[17:22] <hggdh> dax: not completely, I agree. But, in general, mixing apt and aptitude is also not good
[17:22] <dax> yeah, was in the middle of elaborating
[17:22] <dax> its use is discouraged, but there aren't compatibility issues currently afaik
[17:22]  * hggdh waits
[17:23] <dax> main issues i can remember were holds and multiarch
[17:23] <dax> multiarch still looks weird but isn't incompatible any more, and i don't use holds but looking at relevant debian bugs that got cleaned up to use APT's hold system in 2015
[17:25] <dax> on the flip side, they did something to its dependency resolver a few years back and now it's basically unuseable for my (weird) use cases and i switched to just apt-* tools instead, so i guess i shouldn't care too much
[17:26] <hggdh> I remember I gave up on adtitude many years ago due to some dependency resolution problems I had. But never went back to see if it got better
[17:26] <dax> it didn't
[17:28] <dax> ubottu: no, aptitude is <reply> Like apt and apt-get, aptitude is a terminal frontend for Ubuntu's package management system. Unlike the others, it is not recommended in Ubuntu because its behavior differs significantly from other Ubuntu package management tools and can cause issues.
[17:28] <ubottu> I'll remember that dax
[17:28] <hggdh> that sounds better indeed
[17:28] <dax> seems a bit more neutral
[17:31] <hggdh> I had set it as tomreym asked, but was sort of unhappy with the result after re-reading it.
[17:31] <dax> !winusb
[17:31] <ubottu> WinUSB is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. Please see http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html for instructions on installation and use. #ubuntu does *not* provide support for this tool, so please do not ask for help here if it doesn't work for you.
[17:32] <dax> hggdh: yeah, i'm a big fan of aggressively editing factoid suggestions
[17:33] <dax> ah okay, looks like this woe-usb thing is a fork of winusb
[17:35] <dax> and woe-usb has an issue about how its maintainer disappeared and maybe they should work on woeusb-ng *facepalm*
[17:38] <dax> considering: no, winusb is <reply> Ubuntu does not have a recommended tool for preparing bootable Windows installation USBs. If you need one, consider using Microsoft's media creation tool from a Windows computer (see ##windows for support). If this is not an option, there are third-party unsupported tools like WoeUSB ( https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB , sudo snap install --edge woe-usb ) that might work.
[17:38] <dax> plus some aliases
[17:40] <dax> i'm really not a fan of us recommending a --edge snap that appears to be maintained by a third party without some danger-wording around it
[17:41] <hggdh> it does not sound good
[17:42] <hggdh> but the text is good, plus an alias woeusb -> winusb
[17:42] <dax> ubottu: no, winusb is <reply> Ubuntu does not have a recommended tool for preparing bootable Windows installation USBs. If you need one, consider using Microsoft's media creation tool from a Windows computer (see ##windows for support). If this is not an option, there are third-party unsupported tools like WoeUSB ( https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB , sudo snap install --edge woe-usb ) that might work.
[17:42] <ubottu> I'll remember that dax
[17:42] <dax> ubottu: woeusb is <alias> winusb
[17:42] <ubottu> I'll remember that, dax
[17:42] <dax> ubottu: woe-usb is <alias> winusb
[17:42] <ubottu> I'll remember that, dax
[17:43] <dax> i'm gonna poke a ##windows op friend and see if he's seen any other suggestions, but i assume he'll say to just use the MS media creation tool
[17:43] <dax> (which imho is good advice)
[17:43] <hggdh> OTOH, there is no package for woe-usb, just the snap. There is a source package (IIRC) that you can download and build
[17:44] <hggdh> (which is what I did wehen I needed it a few months ago)
[18:21] <dax> ##windows op says basically the same as the new factoid text
[18:21] <dax> so i guess we are good to go
[18:53] <hggdh> perfect