[00:21] <stoned> /home/stoned/.local/share/akonadi/ is taking 6gb of space! What is this directory and can I remove it?
[00:23] <stoned> It could be because I isntalled kmail and it was synced to gmail
[00:23] <stoned> I don't use kmail anymore
[00:32] <leftyfb> stoned: something something KDE. I'd look in it before wiping it. Maybe run ncdu on it. It's apparently the user framework(settings?) for KDE
[01:03] <jaziz> alright so I've set up this ssh thing on one computer
[01:04] <jaziz> but have realized when I try to ssh to my server from another computer, I'm given a "permission denied (publickey)"
[01:04] <jaziz> and idk how to access the file on my windows machine to copy it over to my other computer
[01:04] <jaziz> looks like the file is hidden and I'm not sure how to directly access ubuntu on windows' filesystem
[01:13] <CarlFK> if I want to apt source openocd  from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openocd/0.10.0-1build1 - can I just wget one of those files, or should I add artful repo ?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> !17.10 | CarlFK
[01:19] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: is openocd available in  something supported?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: What is not suitable with the version in the repo ?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> !info openocd  bionic
[01:21] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: I need a newer version, so looking at either building from git, or trying to back port the package
[01:22] <CarlFK> the box I am installing on will do 2 things: run that and jenkins.  if I break it, I'll reinstall the OS and try something else
[01:23] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: disco (19.04) >> 0.10.0-5: .
[01:24] <CarlFK> right - so back to: how do I apt source that?
[01:25] <CarlFK> oh, I was looking down a level.. found em: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openocd/
[01:26] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: CarlFK Tread careful here --- ' apt depends openocd ' says there be dragons here :D
[01:26] <nolsen> So I upgraded from 18.04, 18.10, then 19.04 today, and now I cannot resolve any domains. I can connect to external IPs
[01:26] <Bluecoat> Did kvpm fall out of the packages in Disco?
[01:26] <nolsen> but DNS isn't being resolved anymore
[01:26] <CarlFK> Bashing-om:  i 1/2 expect it to break everything
[01:27] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Uh Huh - "Depends: libc6 " makes me shiver :)
[01:27] <CarlFK> yeah - bumped into that once already and gave up
[01:34] <Bluecoat> Bashing-om: better than depending on libc5.
[01:35] <CarlFK> hey.. isn't this what containers help with?
[01:38] <Bluecoat> that's how I solved the problem.  For me at least.  My colleagues eyes tend to glaze over when I try to explain docker to them. :P
[01:41] <nolsen> So I upgraded from 18.04, 18.10, then 19.04 today, and now I cannot resolve any domains. I can connect to external IPs, but DNS is not resolving anything, any help?
[01:57] <aluno-> ola
[01:57] <aluno-> hello
[02:28] <apurva> hi
[02:29] <apurva> need help
[02:31] <Bashing-om> !ask | apurva
[02:32] <jr_> hello
[02:32] <jr_> i need help
[02:33] <apurva> i m using ppermin os 9 is there any official channel
[02:33] <stevendale> apurva: One second
[02:34] <Bashing-om> !alis | apu
[02:34] <stevendale> Pugabyte_: No
[02:34] <stevendale> There's a forum
[02:34] <stevendale> apurva: not Pugabyte_
[02:34] <stevendale> apurva: https://forum.peppermintos.com/
[02:34] <apurva> ok
[03:11] <transhumanist> hi! whats the easiest way to allow chrome to display output of a video camera
[03:11] <transhumanist> without creating files
[03:11] <transhumanist> that is streaming?
[03:12] <mouses> transhumanist: depends on the format of said video files, but this is not really a ubuntu question
[03:13] <mouses> transhumanist: in theory you should be able to just plug in the camera, browse it's filesystem, and drag a video file right into chrome (or use chrome's open file dialogue to select a file from the mounted camera device)
[03:13] <transhumanist> sorry I should have added I need it to have a port on the local ip address
[03:14] <transhumanist> trying to pipe it through yolo
[03:14] <transhumanist> (requires like a http://localhost:8081 cant get it working with "motion"
[03:30] <[n0mad]> transhumanist: the port is configurable in /etc/motion/motion.conf
[03:32] <transhumanist> [n0mad], yeah it seems to work it starts it then it starts dumping .jpgs to hard drive but when I try to goto http://<my host name>:8081 it fails to show
[03:33] <[n0mad]> and 8081 is the port configured? there's 2 ports, one for admin and one for stream
[03:33] <[n0mad]> both should show something though
[03:33] <[n0mad]> i never had to do anything special to get mine to work
[03:34] <[n0mad]> transhumanist: there's also a stream_localhost....if it's on then you can only see it on localhost
[03:39] <sgt_chuckles> Can anyone help me with this error. Every time I try to play a video using the Videos app, I get an error saying: "No valid frames decoded before end of stream."
[03:40] <sgt_chuckles> Meanwhile the same video plays perfectly when I drag it into Chrome browser.
[03:40] <alejandro> kllkl
[03:41] <alejandro> hi
[03:41] <alejandro> hi
[03:41] <alejandro> ok
[03:45] <transhumanist> figured it out thanks [n0mad]
[04:22] <godgiven> hello
[04:35] <IMGAD> p
[04:36] <IMGAD> p
[04:36] <IMGAD> hai
[04:36] <IMGAD> help m!!!
[04:36] <IMGAD> ❤
[04:51] <bryanroderyck> is tere a ubuntu 19 in 32 bit?
[04:53] <krytarik> bryanroderyck: Nope.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: you can try out lubuntu 18.04 32bit of you want
[04:58] <bryanroderyck> only for 18.04 is it?
[04:58] <bryanroderyck> were i can find it?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-released/
[05:05] <mch>  
[05:05] <mch> i am back
[05:07] <krytarik> bryanroderyck: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ - if you search for "i386" there, you can see which Ubuntu flavors still got a 32-bit image on which release, and start a torrent download by clicking on the respective link.
[05:16] <mas27> hai
[05:17] <mas27> link instahack yang masih active ada ?
[05:17] <mas27> tolong dong
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !english | mas27
[05:18] <mas27> can you help me ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> mas27: ask your ubuntu question please
[05:18] <mas27> im just newbee in here
[05:18] <mas27> dont jugde me
[05:19] <mas27> l/disconnect
[05:24] <bryanroderyck> krytarik : the ubuntu torrent link is broken are there other way to get to te torrent?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: the link works fine
[05:29] <bryanroderyck> https://imgur.com/a/4UsHgc0
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: is your system up to date? did you play with firefox settings? firewall or router blocking?
[05:32] <bryanroderyck> no -- not really  ..
[05:32] <dev1ce> hi
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: lsb_release -a && uname -a && apt-cache policy firefox in a pastebin please?
[05:35] <dev1ce> give me link git clone for hack instagram
[05:35] <dev1ce> please
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> dev1ce: this is the ubuntu support channel here only ubuntu questions please
[05:35] <krytarik> bryanroderyck: Well, some addon is forcing that page to HTTPS - which it doesn't support.
[05:36] <dev1ce> lotuspsychje : opss oke man
[05:37] <jcotton> really? no https?
[05:37] <jcotton> lame
[05:37] <dev1ce> jcotton : ?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> jcotton: please leave comments like that out of support
[05:39] <bryanroderyck> i stop the http everywhere addon but still dont work...what can be done please?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: can you pastebin the info i asked?
[05:41] <bryanroderyck> can you tell me w
[05:41] <bryanroderyck> sorry
[05:42] <bryanroderyck> broken keyboard ..wich part of the command to be used?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: lsb_release -a && uname -a && apt-cache policy firefox
[05:45] <bryanroderyck> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xqjgjNRmyp/
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: ok thank you, and looks all good, now try what krytarik suggested and disable possible addons block, then restart firefox
[05:46] <dev1ce> y
[05:46] <bryanroderyck> ok
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: wich lubuntu version do you want?
[05:49] <bryanroderyck> i want to use 18.04
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> bryanroderyck: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/lubuntu-18.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:57] <bryanroderyck> thanks ...but are there any ubuntu 18 in 32 bit...actually i upgrade 16.04 to 18.04 over the terminal but i still have errors that why im looking for ubuntu
[06:03] <bryanroderyck> are there any ubuntu 18.04 in 32 bit?
[06:03] <bryanroderyck> not lubuntu
[06:05] <jcotton> you have a 32bit machine in 2019?
[06:05] <bryanroderyck> i use an old laptop
[06:06] <bryanroderyck> i3 core
[06:55] <dev1ce> can you help me , somebody ?
[06:55] <roboirc> ask your question dev1ce
[06:56] <roboirc> somebody will answer if they can
[06:56] <dev1ce> can you hacking ?
[06:56] <roboirc> uhh
[06:57] <roboirc> no
[06:57] <dev1ce> robirc : can you hack my instagram xlove ?
[06:58] <tomreyn> !ot | dev1ce
[06:58] <roboirc> no sorry
[06:58] <dev1ce> robirc : ok thanks man , i apreciate
[07:00] <dev1ce> exit
[07:00] <roboirc> ok.....
[07:27] <Ouyes> hey, guys, I have a ubuntu 16.04 in a virtual machine via virtualbox, the host is a windows 10, the network configure two card, one is nat, one is bridged-network, the problem is the bridged-network can not get ip address, do you know why?
[07:27] <Ouyes> I search on the internet, there is no working answer.
[08:11] <il> ls
[08:11] <il> tree
[08:11] <il> ps aux
[08:11] <cfhowlett> il try it in your terminal not in irc
[08:12] <il> fuck\
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !language
[08:12] <il> what is irc
[08:12] <cfhowlett> this chat
[08:12] <il> lol
[08:12] <il> this so sexy
[08:13] <il> i am like hackers now
[08:13] <mia> Hey all
[08:13] <il> cfhowlett where are you from
[08:14] <mia> when I'm using alsa in a DAW app, I can't hear anything from any other app
[08:14] <il> hi mia
[08:14] <mia> alsa is sort of taking the control of my audio interface
[08:14] <mia> how can I stop this behavior
[08:14] <cfhowlett> il chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please. this is ubuntu support only
[08:14] <il> ok sorry
[08:14] <ducasse> il: do you have an ubuntu question?
[08:14] <il> how can change my dm
[08:15] <ducasse> il: just install a new one, and you will be prompted which one to use
[08:16] <il> in debian i change /etc/X11/default-display-manager and this works but in kubuntu its dont do any thing
[08:16] <il> i had to remove and re install dms to change my dm
[08:16] <il> its stupid
[08:17] <cfhowlett> il are you using debian?
[08:17] <il> no
[08:17] <il> i have kubuntu
[08:17] <il> a distro based on ubuntu
[08:18] <ducasse> il: use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure <name-of-dm>' to change
[08:18] <cfhowlett> il logout.  click on the gear to select your dm  login
[08:18] <cfhowlett> or this ^^^
[08:18] <ducasse> the gear changes de, not dm
[08:20] <il> pashmam , thanks so much , its work :}}}}}
[08:20] <zull> Good Morning. I have a problem: I have an ubuntu server with the IP 87.118.125.214 with nginx installed. I am trying to point the domain globepostalservice-posta-nazionale.com to this IP from yesterday.  I Put tail -f in all nginx log files from nginx and try to reach the domain with the browser. No requests arrived. I Just would like to understand if it is a my server configuration problem(maybe I need to configure bind?) o
[08:20] <zull> r is it a DNS propagation problem or what?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> zull perhaps #ubuntu-server would be better?
[08:23] <ducasse> zull: there's no dns a record for globepostalservice-posta-nazionale.com that i can find
[08:23] <zull> ducasse what does it means?
[08:24] <zull> and what to do?
[08:24] <ducasse> zull: nothing, there isn't any. fix this on your dns server
[08:25] <zull> then isn't it a problem of my side? I mean my ubuntu server?
[08:26] <tomreyn> zull: it's not something you need to fix on ubuntu, no.
[08:26] <ducasse> no, it's not a problem with the web server
[08:26] <mia> Can't find anythişng anywhere :(
[08:26] <mia> So channel, I'm trying to use my ubuntu for music production
[08:26] <mia> the problem is that when alsa is active in my DAW application, I can't hear any system sounds
[08:26] <mia> onlşy sound coming from my DAW is hearable
[08:26] <mia> everything else goes silent
[08:26] <cfhowlett> #opensourcemusic mia
[08:27] <mia> in Windows, there was a checkbox in my soundcard, like "take exclusive control"
[08:27] <cfhowlett> or possibly #ubuntustudio or your DAW's support options
[08:27] <zull> thanks a lot ducasse
[08:27] <mia> so that apps could take exclusive control of the audio interface
[08:27] <ducasse> zull: try ##networking
[08:28] <spinningCat> i try to install bridge-utils ia32-libs-multiarch packages but that doesnt exist
[08:28] <ducasse> mia: try #ubuntustudio
[08:28] <mia> cfhowlett, this is not a daw specific question actually
[08:28] <mia> more of a general question
[08:28] <mia> just tried thanks ducasse
[08:28] <spinningCat> is there any replacement on the system for these packages?
[08:29] <tomreyn> spinningCat: your ubuntu version, please?
[08:29] <spinningCat> 18.04
[08:29] <tomreyn> and describe why you're trying to install these packages - are you following some how.to?
[08:30] <spinningCat> yes i try to initialize kvm
[08:30] <spinningCat> https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator-acceleration?utm_source=android-studio#vm-linux
[08:30] <tomreyn> bridge-utils exists on ubuntu 18.04 lts
[08:32] <tomreyn> the third sentence of this how-to you just linked to says "For Ubuntu systems, see Ubuntu KVM Installation -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation"
[08:33] <tomreyn> spinningCat: ^ and this ubuntu specific how-to doe snot mention "ia32-libs-multiarch"
[08:33] <spinningCat> so android how to is out of date then
[08:34] <tomreyn> maybe, or maybe it is trying to be generic. different instructions may apply to different linux distros.
[08:36] <tomreyn> the last line on the developer.android.com how-to does indeed seem to be ubuntu specific and no longer valid on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
[08:36] <spinningCat> i got this adduser: The group `libvirtd' does not exist.
[08:37] <spinningCat> i installed dev package
[08:38] <tomreyn> the instructions given for 18.10 ("Cosmic") should also apply to Ubuntu 18.04
[08:38] <spinningCat> damn there is libvirt and libvirtd
[08:39] <spinningCat> which one is correct?
[08:39] <spinningCat> https://askubuntu.com/questions/930491/group-libvirtd-does-not-exist-while-installing-qemu-kvm
[08:39] <tomreyn> spinningCat: where do you see both "libvirt" and "libvirtd"?
[08:40] <spinningCat> libvirtd does not exist it seems whereas libvirt exist. Tutorial mention libvirtd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[08:41] <spinningCat> i didnt see both in same place i am just confused
 the instructions given for 18.10 ("Cosmic") should also apply to Ubuntu 18.04
[08:41] <tomreyn> this Cat is spinning too much, read slowly.
[08:42] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation#Add_Users_to_Groups -> Cosmic (18.10) -> "The group name is changed to libvirt: "
[08:43] <spinningCat> okay same apply to 18.04 i assume
[08:43] <spinningCat> okay then i am all set
[08:47] <mia> I can seem to find jackaudio package in software center
[08:47] <mia> am I missing something?
[08:47] <mia> jack2 is also missing from apt-get
[08:47] <cfhowlett> mia, what ubuntu version?
[08:47] <mia> 18.04
[08:48] <cfhowlett> mia, try again.  apt search jack shows it just fine for me
[08:49] <ducasse> make sure universe is enabled
[08:50] <mia> cfhowlett, E: Unable to locate package jack2
[08:50] <mia> sudo apt install jack2
[08:50] <mia> this is the install command that I'm using
[08:50] <ducasse> what about 'jack'?
[08:51] <mia> it's an old version
[08:52] <mia> oh looks like the package name is jackd2
[08:52] <mia> hmmm
[08:52] <ducasse> jackd2
[08:52] <mia> yes, thanks!
[08:52] <mia> it was used to be jack2
[08:52] <mia> weird
[08:52] <mia> maybe I misremember
[08:52] <mia> Anyway, thank you!
[08:52] <mia> I'll try this now
[08:54] <ducasse> mia: 'apt search --names-only ^jack' will list that package names that start with 'jack'
[09:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:02] <Guest4612> hello
[09:05] <dabrain34> when i'm starting xchat i'm always getting: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[09:06] <dabrain34> so i have to run the command
[09:06] <dabrain34> but can I automate this in a way ?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | dabrain34
[09:08] <cfhowlett> dabrain34, see your hexchat channel settings for autologin
[09:26] <spinningCat> there is no .bash_profile in my system
[09:28] <geirha> there's .profile by default. Bash will use that if .bash_profile doesn't exist
[09:29] <spinningCat> eand no .bashrc
[09:29] <spinningCat> .profile is empty
[09:29] <spinningCat> is it a problem?
[09:30] <EriC^^> spinningCat: is there something in /etc/skel
[09:30] <geirha> did you create a user using the useradd command perhaps?
[09:31] <spinningCat> and that file's owner is root wth
[09:31] <spinningCat> i am not sure geirha
[09:32] <spinningCat> EriC^^,  example.desktop there is
[09:32] <Swizzy> Hi! I have a question that I am seeking some input on. If I want to use Ubuntu with the Xfce DE should I use Xubuntu straight away or go with a Ubuntu install and then just install xfce? I am looking for the smallest (least bloat) and most stable installation. Security is also a major concern, but I assume won't be much different.
[09:32] <spinningCat> EriC^^,  do you need content of example.desktop
[09:32] <geirha> spinningCat: ls -la /etc/skel ~/
[09:33] <geirha> ls doesn't display files starting with . by default. You need to give it -a or -A for that
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: if you like a flavor, its based to install the flavor itself, aka xubuntu
[09:34] <Swizzy> But Flavor is more than just the DE if I am not mistaking? :s
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: otherwise you have an ubuntu-desktop install (more heavy) with a xubuntu-desktop ontop
[09:34] <Swizzy> So far I have been using Xubuntu and it was working very well, just curious for other options
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: well it depends what your going to use as base?
[09:35] <Swizzy> Ubuntu LTS
[09:35] <Swizzy> If you mean that
[09:35] <spinningCat> there is no file with .bashrc or .bash_profile and .profile is empty
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: cause you can also install lubuntu for example, then test a xubuntu-desktop ontop of it
[09:35] <spinningCat> and .profile brelongs to root
[09:36] <geirha> spinningCat: is this your system, and are you sure it's even Ubuntu?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: if you choose ubuntu-desktop (with gnome3) system will feel more heavy, needs more ram etc
[09:36] <qwebirc38825> Is it logged somewhere when a service is enabled/disabled in systemd?
[09:36] <Swizzy> Right but when I replace Gnome3 with Xfce that changes?
[09:37] <Swizzy> Xubuntu comes with a lot of software pre installed that I dont necessarily want or need, so I am thinking that a minimal Ubuntu install with the network iso
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: nothing can beat a clean flavor install right
[09:37] <Swizzy> and then xfce DE on top of it would be better than xubuntu? Since Xubuntu doesn't offer an option to just get the basics
[09:37] <spinningCat> geirha,  ofc it is ubuntu
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Swizzy: we often reccomend trying a desktop ontop as a test, if you like it= install the full flavor
[09:38] <wangxiaomin> ？
[09:39] <alkisg> Hi, some users frequently mention "distribution XXX is the most popular because it's the first on distrowatch.com"!
[09:39] <alkisg> Is there any URL that I can point them to, that explains that "distrowatch page hits" are completely unrelated to "actual percentage of user base"?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> hey alkisg tnx again for the last help, my wishlist bug got marked fix released
[09:40] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: great man! :)
[09:40] <qwebirc38825> Is it logged somewhere when a service is enabled/disabled in systemd?
[09:40] <geirha> spinningCat: ok, well an ubuntu install will contain at least a .bashrc and .profile in /etc/skel, so you should try to figure out how you managed to delete those
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | qwebirc38825 start here
[09:40] <spinningCat> i didnt delete anything
[09:41] <alkisg> dpkg -L bash | grep /etc/skel
[09:41] <jeremy31> alkisg: Might be a better topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: we have this stats page, but not really for different Os https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics
[09:41] <alkisg> jeremy31: thanks; trying there
[09:42] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: does that have only percentages? Or does it have real numbers too?
[09:42] <qwebirc38825> Thanks, I already went through these... But as it just creates a symlink, I'm not sure if it also logs this somewhere.
[09:42] <qwebirc38825> when and maybe even who set a service to disabled
[09:42] <alkisg> Some debian-based distros have popcon; but it's not enabled by default so it's rather unreliable
[09:42] <geirha> spinningCat: well something has ...
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: think you can deepseek into ubuntu-report and popularity-contest
[09:43] <alkisg> I think popularity-contest only has about 1% of the actual user base
[09:43]  * alkisg searches for ubuntu-report...
[09:50] <SleepyTurtle> hi! how can I check where a can device is connected (what port)
[09:51] <SleepyTurtle> When I run dmesg | grep can I get this:
[09:51] <SleepyTurtle> [  285.459312] can: controller area network core (rev 20170425 abi 9)
[09:51] <SleepyTurtle> [  285.464222] can: raw protocol (rev 20170425)
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> SleepyTurtle: what kind of device?
[09:51] <SleepyTurtle> A controller
[09:52] <TimeDoctor> netstat --listen if your'e talking about a network port
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: i think exact stats will be hard too, as ubuntu-report the user also got the choice of opt-in/out
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: in #ubuntu-server we heared yesterday, popcon is also installed by default, but not enabled by default
[09:53] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: yeah it would be nice if distros/mirrors/etc posted actual download stats, from their repositories. It would make things much more easily comparable.
[09:53] <SleepyTurtle> TimeDoctor: I don't understand what that command does. It doesn't show any CAN devices though
[09:53] <TimeDoctor> SleepyTurtle: I don't know what a CAN device is
[09:53] <TimeDoctor> SleepyTurtle: or what kind of controller your'e talking about, lots of things are called controllers
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: my guess is, ubuntu statistics/usage is way bigger then what any stat say
[09:53] <SleepyTurtle> TimeDoctor: a device connected via  Controller Area Network
[09:54] <SleepyTurtle> TimeDoctor: a motor controller
[09:55] <SleepyTurtle> I want to know where it's connected so that I can communicate with it
[09:55] <TimeDoctor> SleepyTurtle: well I have never worked with that type of network bus, the netstat --listen would just catch the port being open on your host machine for a daemon
[10:00] <SimonNL> SleepyTurtle: controller card or connected by some cable or so ?
[10:04] <SleepyTurtle> SimonNL: connected by CAN
[10:04] <SimonNL> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus     serial
[10:04] <SleepyTurtle> SimonNL: CAN bus
[10:05] <SleepyTurtle> SimonNL: yes
[10:08] <SimonNL> https://www.csselectronics.com/screen/page/simple-intro-to-can-bus/language/en       interesting
[10:16] <SleepyTurtle> SimonNL: I want to know the device name
[10:20] <SimonNL> SleepyTurtle: search for an  app that possibly provides that for you
[10:23] <MrM1st> quick question: installing things by using "pip", are there any security issues? Am i downloading binaries that can be infected etc?
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> MrM1st: if you install packages from the ubuntu official repos, and system stays up to date you probably fine
[10:32] <SchrodingersScat> MrM1st: AFAIK you're giving them /some/ level of trust.  IDK how easy or difficult it would be for someone who maintains a respected pip resource to turn malicious and simply change it for everyone to update to something bad.
[10:34] <privism> Did happen in the past: https://www.zdnet.com/article/twelve-malicious-python-libraries-found-and-removed-from-pypi/
[10:36] <SchrodingersScat> privism: wow, and the desired effect of those sounds pretty serious as well.  I wasn't sure how much pip could change outside of python things.
[10:38] <SchrodingersScat> MrM1st: also don't pipe wget/curl to Bash, unless you trust them with your life.
[10:39] <MrM1st> SchrodingersScat: Hehe.. I know :)
[10:41] <SchrodingersScat> I still feel pretty safe using pip to get things like youtube-dl
[10:41] <MrM1st> SchrodingersScat: I tend to use git instead
[10:47] <nekowaiidesu> j #gentoo
[10:47] <nekowaiidesu> my bad
[10:47] <de_alka> get
[10:48] <de_alka> test
[10:49] <de_alka> where are u
[10:49] <tomreyn> de_alka: this is not the place to run tests, nor for social chat.
[10:49] <de_alka> oh,ok. i am sorry
[10:51] <de_alka> tomreyn:can u pm me?
[10:51] <konfucjusz> hi, when i put usb stick into usb it is automaticly monuted. How to change this settings?
[10:52] <de_alka> their says,this not place for social chat
[10:53] <tomreyn> de_alka: you can PM me.
[10:53] <SchrodingersScat> konfucjusz: when you go to 'Settings' do you see a 'Removable Drives and Media' option?  I have a checkbox there that toggles auto-mounting.
[10:54] <nekowaiidesu> konfucjusz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences
[11:09] <ndayalan> I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. When I try to remove (uninstall) adwaita-icon-theme, packages like zathura and zathura-pdf-poppler are also removed by default. Is there any command-line to not remove zathura and zathura-pdf-poppler or otherwise I need to reinstall it again?
[11:11] <tomreyn> ndayalan: if those zathura packages are removed as a result of removing adwaita-icon-theme, then this would suggest they depend on the icon theme package
[11:12] <ndayalan> tomreyn: does it mean it should always present if I intend to use zathura
[11:14] <tomreyn> ndayalan: it means that you will not be able to have zathura (and zathura-pdf-poppler) installed if you don't also install adwaita-icon-theme, yes.
[11:22] <tomreyn> ndayalan: so, for a better explanation: "zathura" depends on "libgtk-3-0". "libgtk-3-0" depends on "adwaita-icon-theme". so you cannot have "zathura" installed without also having "adwaita-icon-theme" installed. you can install "apt-rdepends" to examine such indirect package dependencies.
[11:25] <tomreyn> 'r' standard for recursive here (there is also a command "apt rdepends" (without the hyphon), but there the 'r' stands for "reverse", enabling you to tell which packages dpend (directly only) on the given package. so that's something rather different really.
[11:25] <SleepyTurtle> Can someone help me see can devices connected to my computer?
[11:25] <ndayalan> tomreyn: thank you and now I understood
[11:26] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: can you provide more context?
[11:27] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I have a CAN device connected to my computer. How can I see it and read what it says?
[11:27] <SleepyTurtle> I'm using canopen and socketcan
[11:27] <SleepyTurtle> I've tried following instructions online but  always end up with Cannot find device "can0"
[11:29] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: hmm, i'm not really into working with those, but maybe we can work it out. do you see 'can0' listed on your systemd journal? which ubuntu release and kernel version are you running?
[11:29] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I'm sorry, I don't quite follow. How do I check my journal?
[11:30] <tomreyn> let's start with this: which ubuntu release and kernel version are you running?    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[11:30] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I'm using 4.15.0-48-generic
[11:30] <tomreyn> if you run these series of commands it will return a url with all the needed info
[11:30] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/8wlc
[11:31] <tomreyn> ok, you run Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS with the HWE kernel.
[11:31] <tomreyn> on amd64
[11:31] <tomreyn> to get the systemd journal, use:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:32] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ocba
[11:33] <tomreyn> you use Network Manager for managing network connections, and it detects can0 as an 802.3 ethernet device
[11:34] <tomreyn> may 13 13:08:46 eralbot0 NetworkManager[777]: <info>  [1557745726.8828] guessed connection type (can0) = 802-3-ethernet
[11:35] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: what does    nmcli d     say for can0 in the other columns?
[11:35] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: How can I check that?
[11:36] <tomreyn> you run this command in a terminal and inspect its output
[11:37] <SleepyTurtle> if I run nmcli I just see wifi
[11:37] <SleepyTurtle> connected
[11:37] <tomreyn> and if you run   "nmcli d"?
[11:37] <SleepyTurtle> 2 ethernet connections unavailable
[11:37] <mra90> I changed a link name but ls -t show that I also modified the file to which that link pointed - does it make sense?
[11:37] <SleepyTurtle> and a loopback
[11:37] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: yeah, sorry, that's what I see running nmcli d
[11:38] <tomreyn> ok
[11:38] <mra90> so the link was not changed accoriding to ls -t but the files under the link yes
[11:38] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: how do you intend to use the 'can' device?
[11:38] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I want to read and send messages through canbus
[11:38] <simondodd> Hey everyone, first time here :) hoping for some help :)
[11:39] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: which device is it?
[11:40] <SleepyTurtle> a PID controller
[11:40] <tomreyn> which product name / chipset
[11:40] <SleepyTurtle> connected to two motors
[11:40] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: https://www.roboteq.com/index.php/roboteq-products-and-services/brushless-dc-motor-controllers/393/sbl2360-277-detail
[11:40] <SleepyTurtle> But I'm addding more devices later
[11:41] <simondodd> I've got a USB-Serial device that has an FTDI chip, I'm trying to install the d2xx drivers but when I go to run rmmod usbserial I get an error saying it Is in use by ch341... It's a Raspberry Pi btw :) any ideas?
[11:42] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: i'm reading https://elinux.org/CAN_Bus which states there are two types of device drivers, character device based and network socket based drivers. i'm not yet sure which module was loaded for your device, but it seems to be treated as a network socket device. i'm trying to understand whether that's correct.
[11:42] <ChunkzZ> how can I get systemd to start with tasket? ExecStart=taskset -c 4-7 /usr/bin/mono --debug /opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe -nobrowser
[11:42] <ChunkzZ> it fails...
[11:43] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: i'll read up some more on the system log you posted, will ping you in some 10-15 minutes
[11:43] <SleepyTurtle> thank you so much tomreyn
[11:44] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: It uses canopen
[11:46] <ChunkzZ> this doesn't work too: ExecStart=ExecStart=/usr/bin/taskset -c 4-7 /usr/bin/mono --debug /opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe -nobrowser
[11:46] <ChunkzZ> wait
[11:46] <ChunkzZ> wut
[11:50] <simondodd> I seem to be unable to get the KMTronic USB-Serial adapter working in Ubuntu... The driver installation fails when I run rammed usbserial with the error, Module usbserial is in use by ch341... Any ideas how I can fix this?
[11:51] <simondodd> *rmmod
[11:52] <weiyang> simondodd, try lsmod | grep usbserial to see who use this
[11:53] <simondodd> Response is usbserial 40960 1 ch341
[11:56] <weiyang> simondodd, so ch341 is using usbserial
[11:56] <weiyang> You'd remove ch341 first
[11:57] <simondodd> Ahhh, ok that may have fixed it... fingers crossed! :) thanks!
[11:59] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: so before you started loading modules manually, the only thing i found logged regarding this piece of hardware is this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7GFyKC8XXB/
[12:00] <tomreyn> i'm not certain whether the "cp210x converter" is at all related
[12:03] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: you may want to try what is discussed here:   https://elinux.org/Bringing_CAN_interface_up
[12:03] <tomreyn> you have can0, a native interface (not virtual)
[12:03] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: that's what I've been trying to do
[12:04] <tomreyn> (and not slcan)
[12:04] <SleepyTurtle> but I get:
[12:04] <SleepyTurtle> Cannot find device "can0"
[12:04] <tomreyn> this returned by whch command?
[12:06] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn:  sudo ip link set can0 type can bitrate 1000000
[12:06] <tomreyn> that's a weird bitrate
[12:07] <tomreyn> did you make it up, or read it somewhere?
[12:07] <SleepyTurtle> it's the controller's bitrate
[12:07] <SleepyTurtle> the same error for different bitrates though
[12:08] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: did you run this command before or after loading all the other modules manually?
[12:08] <SleepyTurtle> I started by following these instructions
[12:09] <tomreyn> oh i see it on your log
[12:09] <mia> okay, I tried to install jack2 and a few audio routing apps on my ubuntu, I was unable to get the results I expected, I've uninstalled the apps but my sound controls (volume up down slider) is missing now, only when I'm logged in
[12:09] <mia> when I'm logged out the usb audio interface and its slider is working
[12:09] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: http://wiki.ros.org/socketcan_interface
[12:09] <mia> so I believe my user has somehow messed settings of the usb audio interface,
[12:09] <mia> and in ubuntu sound settings, the interface is no longer listed there
[12:09] <mia> so, how can I check those user specific things? I need to correct this
[12:10] <mia> when I unplug and replug my usb interface I don2t see it listed under sound in ubuntu settings any more
[12:12] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: does this list trhe can0 interface?   ip -a link show
[12:12] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I don't think so
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle> 2: enp1s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle>     link/ether c4:00:ad:23:7f:59 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle> 3: enp3s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle>     link/ether c4:00:ad:23:7f:5a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[12:13] <SleepyTurtle> 4: wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
[12:13] <tomreyn> !paste | SleepyTurtle
[12:13] <tomreyn> you are currently muted, this will end soon
[12:14] <SleepyTurtle> sorry
[12:14] <mia> Sorrt I had to reboot
[12:15] <mia> did anyone respond my question above ?
[12:15] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: i'm afraid i'm not qualified to help you fix this, never worked with such devices. maybe ask in ##linux or a linux + robotics related channel if you can't get help here.
[12:15] <mia> ok let me simplify the question
[12:16] <mia> my audio volume up down slider is missing only after login
[12:16] <mia> (with my usb audio device)
[12:16] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: Thank you for your time I really appreciate it
[12:16] <mia> when I'm logged out it's there, and working
[12:16] <mia> What's going on here
[12:16] <tomreyn> !alis | SleepyTurtle
[12:16] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[12:16] <SleepyTurtle> :)
[12:16] <The-Compiler> Hmm, anyone has an idea what's up with Python coming with Ubuntu 16.04? The package version says 3.5.1-3, but -V says 3.5.2 (and it has typing.TYPE_CHECKING)
[12:21] <simondodd> Whoop whoop! Thanks @weiyang step one complete, I've got the relay working! :) Thanks
[12:22] <mia> Hmmm
[12:22] <mia> another weird problem
[12:22] <mia> my F keys don't work on ubuntu on my keyboard
[12:22] <mia> why can this be happening?
[12:23] <mia> F1 to F12 - nothing works
[12:23] <mia> is there any way for me to test if the keyboard is sending the signal?
[12:24] <mia> yeah they're not working
[12:24] <mia> just checked it via https://askubuntu.com/questions/411419/how-do-i-check-which-key-is-pressed
[12:24] <tomreyn> !enter | mia
[12:24] <mia> okay tomreyn, it's just that today is an awful day
[12:25] <mia> my usb audio interface just stopped working only for my main user on my ubuntu setup
[12:25] <mia> and now the F keys also don't work, I realized
[12:25] <mia> I don't have any clues on how to fix any of this.
[12:25] <SchrodingersScat> have you tried a full reboot yet?
[12:25] <mia> yes of course
[12:25] <mia> 24 time
[12:26] <SchrodingersScat> could something from jack still be running?
[12:26] <mia> I uninstalled get via sudo apt-get remove jackd2
[12:26] <mia> (which is funny because it removed MANY other packages, like wine, etc)
[12:27] <mia> not sure what I'm doing more it's just like a chain reaction where everything started to fall apart and I don2t think I can start from scratch with everything on this ubuntu setup
[12:27] <mia> otherwise I'd just delete ubuntu and start over but I already did it like 4 times last week
[12:27] <SchrodingersScat> mia: i'm not great at audio issues, had a few myself before.  idk if clearing out your .pulseaudio would help or not.
[12:27] <mia> I don't want to switch to windows just because I'm exhausted of these things..
[12:27] <leftyfb> mia: it sounds like you removed a LOT of packages that were required for a proper desktop environment
[12:27] <mia> SchrodingersScat, I just wanted to check alsamixer, and it says press F1 for help, then I realized my F1 isn't working :(
[12:28] <leftyfb> mia: what version and flavor(Gnome, KDE, XFCE?) of ubuntu is this?
[12:28] <mia> I think my first thing to solve would be to sole this F1 to F12 keys not workin problem
[12:28] <mia> I' using ubuntu, 18.04
[12:28] <mia> @leftyfb,
[12:28] <leftyfb> mia: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <mia> ok, trying it now .
[12:30] <mia> didn't fix the problem leftyfb
[12:31] <ztychr> I'm using a theme that apparently doesn't apply to gtk 2 themes. (At least I assume this is what's happening.) Apps like GNU radio companion and timeshift stays in a light theme, when everything switches to the new theme perfectly. Is there som kind of workaround for this? Or do I have to completely switch theme?
[12:31] <mia> also why does apt-get remove, removes a lot of packages
[12:31] <mia> I mean I just wanted to remove audiojack 2
[12:31] <mia> why did it remove like... everything
[12:31] <chmd> Hi there, when my laptop is connected to an external screen and I close the lid, it does not go to sleep (which I expect due to HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf). However, with some screens, this does not work. How can I debug that?
[12:42] <tiit> chmd: you can try this to get extra logging from logind, https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March/010004.html
[12:44] <tiit> it should log "External (2) displays connected." when closing the lid
[12:48] <chmd> tiit: thank you
[12:49] <Kon-> Are journald logs stored indefinitely or are old entries removed at some point? I noticed the /var/log/journal/ directory is 1.2 GB on a 3 month old installation
[12:50] <pragmaticenigma> Kon-: They are eventually purged, there is a setting to adjust how long they are held for
[12:50] <Kon-> Thanks
[12:52] <pragmaticenigma> Kon-: From documentation, journald will use 10% if the drive or up-to 4 G. It will always leave a minimum of 15% or 4 G free on a drive nearing its capcacity
[12:52] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/systemd/+bug/1790205 discusses the details
[12:53] <Kon-> Ah, very interesting. So the default setting is a total % of drive space
[12:53] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: what I found came from the documentation... why is that a bug?
[12:53] <tomreyn> oh, pragmaticenigma summed it up nicely.
[12:54] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: i wasn't aware of the automatic purging initially, nor was the OP, thus he filed the bug, i think. the man page does not discuss this.
[12:54] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: Ah, okay
[12:55] <tomreyn> and this is now the only thing this bug report is about, i think, the point that on system documentation is lacking
[12:55] <tomreyn> (man pages)
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> Kon-: You can adjust the settings in /etc/systemd/journald.conf ... though as tomreyn mentions, documentation is a bit lacking on what all the settings mean
[12:57] <tiit> mia: are you using an external keyboard or a laptop? some models require that you hold down Fn for the F-keys to function
[13:00] <tomreyn> Kon-: if you'd like to save some space, and are comfortable with systemd-journald logging, you can actually remove (purge) rsyslog and any log file it writes to.
[13:02] <Kon-> Thanks tomreyn but I think journald.conf does have some useful settings, including LineMax which seems to set a hard limit on the number of entries
[13:04] <tiit> LineMax controls the maximum length of one line, not the number of lines
[13:05] <tomreyn> Kon-: there are configurations available to trim the journal to consume less storage. personally, if i was concerned about those 2 GB storage (which rsyslog logs may also have consumed, while retaining much shorter history), i would configure systemd-journald to keep logs below a fixed size.
[13:06] <tomreyn> so i'd set SystemMaxUse and RuntimeMaxUse
[13:07] <Kon-> Thanks, are those based on KB?
[13:07] <Kon-> or what unit of size
[13:07] <tomreyn> please read journald.conf(5)
[13:08] <lighth0use> Hello,I am new user.Is anybody here?
[13:09] <tomreyn> lighth0use: hello. many are. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:10] <lighth0use> Not yet,but I try to learn the Ubuntu.Thanks for answering:)
[13:10] <Kon-> Ah, nice. Thanks tomreyn
[13:10] <tomreyn> you'Re both welcome. ;-)
[13:16] <tiit> what would be the proper procedure for having a package rebuilt using newer dependencies from -updates? does this require a stable release update of the package as well or is there a simpler way?
[13:17] <tiit> to be more specific, etcd is currently Built-Using: golang-google-grpc=1.6.0-3, but I wish to have it Built-Using: golang-google-grpc=1.6.0-3ubuntu0.18.04.1
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> tiit: You may find the #ubuntu-app-devel to be more helpful with questions about building apps
[13:19] <tiit> thanks, i'll check it out
[13:21] <tiit> although to clarify, I am not asking about building the package locally, but having the binary in bionic repositories updated
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> tiit: then you file a bug ticket requesting the change
[13:36] <Fleuv> Hey does anyone have experience with intellij complaining about the port being out of range (-1). While simply running tomcat9 (installed via apt) configuration on ubuntu? None of my classmates seem to have this problem...
[13:37] <leftyfb> Fleuv: ask your instructor
[13:37] <Fleuv> leftyfb, they gave up I think
[13:37] <leftyfb> Fleuv: also, intellij isn't supported here
[13:37] <Fleuv> they said install a docker container
[13:38] <tiit> pragmaticenigma: as i suspected, thank you
[13:38] <Fleuv> leftyfb, how do you mean isn't supported here? xD
[13:39] <Fleuv> the only thing supported here is text
[13:39] <leftyfb> Fleuv: It's not part of the Ubuntu repos. Contact Jetbrains for support
[13:39] <Fleuv> I did :/
[13:40] <Fleuv> Just wondering maybe someone here could help me faster. Because their support takes like a couple of weeks
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> Fleuv: Only applications provided through Ubuntu's official software repositories are supported here. IntelliJ is not provided through those channels and therefore is not supported here.
[13:41] <Fleuv> I can't wait to long since the course is limited in time
[13:41] <leftyfb> Fleuv: Sorry. This is really an issue your instructors should be addressing. Good luck
[13:43] <Fleuv> Oke thank you
[13:44] <Fleuv> I will ask them for an workaround
[13:45] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, is libjdom2-intellij-java relevant?
[13:46] <tiit> Fleuv: you can try ##java or one of the other more specific channels
[13:46] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: no
[13:46] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:17] <UltraCube73> hi there
[14:18] <UltraCube73> ?
[14:21] <AlexPortable> can someone help me getting multitouch to work on my laptop?
[14:21] <AlexPortable> (toucpad0
[14:21] <AlexPortable> touchpad
[14:29] <heelrayner> hello ubuntu
[14:29] <heelrayner> i was wondering if theres a way to remove background noise on the fly if you have 2 mics?
[14:35] <lordcirth_> heelrayner, ffmpeg can do noise reduction, but it's generally a clever filter rather than subtracting another mic
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> lordcirth_: that wouldn't offer realtime
[14:36] <heelrayner> lordcirth_, I'm aware of that. I was hoping there was realtime though, which is why i thought a second mic would be the answer.
[14:36] <heelrayner> it gets too hot in my room durirng the summer, I need a fan
[14:36] <heelrayner> but I like to stream
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> heelrayner: you're best bet is to find a headset or microphone with that sort of filter built in
[14:38] <lordcirth_> heelrayner, are you using OBS? It has realtime noise filters
[14:38] <heelrayner> they're 129 a peice lol I'm poor
[14:38] <heelrayner> yes obs
[14:38] <heelrayner> but can still hear my fan
[14:39] <lordcirth_> heelrayner, that's with the noise filter on?
[14:39] <mrchairman> i'm running mint in a virtual machine on a macbook air 2018 and its not so bad
[14:40] <mrchairman> I'd rather it be the latest ubuntu, but it was laggy
[14:40] <lordcirth_> mrchairman, VMs have poor GPU performance, try Xubuntu
[14:41] <mrchairman> lordcirth_: thats not a good suggestion
[14:41] <mrchairman> lordcirth_: i mean it is a good suggestion, sorry
[14:41] <mrchairman> I was typing "not a bad idea --- and good suggestion" at the same time
[14:42] <lordcirth_> lol
[14:43] <mrchairman> i miss the irc of the 90's when it was more popular
[14:44] <heelrayner> lordcirth_, yes, https://i.imgur.com/Psc8fYn.png
[14:45] <heelrayner> i was thinking about a blue parrot
[14:45] <heelrayner> they're bluetooth tho
[14:45] <heelrayner> and idk if they work with linux
[14:46] <lordcirth_> heelrayner, is the fan noise annoying, or just audible? You could talk a little louder?
[14:47] <mrchairman> or get  longer mic and get farther from the computer and use opera glasses to see the screen
[14:48] <mrchairman> I'm called The King Of Solutions around these parts
[14:53] <ChunkzZ> how do I stop this? # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) and #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN I need to edit it to get my vpn working...
[14:55] <lordcirth_> ChunkzZ, 16.04? You edit the settings in /etc/resolvconf
[14:55] <ChunkzZ> 18.04 lordcirth_
[14:55] <ChunkzZ> I try and it says I can't edit it
[14:55] <ChunkzZ> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[14:56] <lordcirth_> ChunkzZ, not /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/resolvconf/
[14:56] <lordcirth_> ChunkzZ, did you upgrade from 16.04? Because 18.04 uses systemd-resolved instead, by default.
[14:57] <asdfgh> hello
[14:57] <asdfgh> can anyone advise me a good software to "compress" video without loosing (too much) the quality ?
[14:57] <asdfgh> something similar to youtube optimizer i mean
[14:58] <ChunkzZ> lordcirth_, can I remove it then and add that?
[14:58] <ChunkzZ> E: Unable to locate package systemd-resolved
[14:59] <lordcirth_> ChunkzZ, it's already installed as part of systemd, you'd just have to disable resolvconf and enable resolved. But you shouldn't need to. Just edit the resolvconf settings.
[15:06] <NewToLubuntu> I was wondering if anyone knew how to get back a window you've dragged off screen and can't get back fully on-screen
[15:06] <NewToLubuntu> I'm not sure how I did it but VLC media player in restored (non-full) mode is off to the left so I can't see the play button
[15:07] <NewToLubuntu> I can only see it when I maximize but don't always want to need to maximize it
[15:07] <cek> was `watchdog` removed from repo?
[15:08] <lordcirth_> cek, it's still in bionic. What release are you on?
[15:08] <NewToLubuntu> when it is maximized I can see the bar you click and hold down to move a window around, but that bar is off-screen in restored mode so I can't grab it
[15:08] <lordcirth_>  NewToLubuntu alt-tab to it, alt-space, M, move mouse
[15:09] <cek> buster/sid
[15:09] <lordcirth_> cek, that's Debian, not Ubuntu.
[15:09] <NewToLubuntu> nice, thanks!
[15:09] <cek> how do i know
[15:09] <lordcirth_> cek,  cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:09] <cek> 18.04 bionic
[15:10] <NewToLubuntu> also now realizing that if I right click the top bar in full screen mode that I can select the resize option and this resets the size/position of what I "restore" to
[15:10] <lordcirth_> cek, then watchdog is in repos. Why did you say buster/sid?
[15:10] <leftyfb> cek: cat /etc/lsb-release # does not output "18.04 bionic"
[15:11] <leftyfb> cek: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)    please paste the link here
[15:11] <cek> ok, it was in universe which isn't on in livecds
[15:11] <cek> !next
[15:44] <mra90> how to cheange ssh repository
[15:44] <mra90> to update packages form different place?
[15:45] <tomreyn> do you mean apt repository?
[15:46] <tomreyn> but even then i'm not really getting the purpose. please provide more context, mra90.
[15:49] <Mech0z> AFter updating to 18.04 LTS I have a problem with a mounted USB3 disk that is now owned by root and using remote desktop XRDP I cant mount it, but it has been given some obscure name (Looks like a GUID) and is found in /media/nameofcomputer/guidlikename and if I click on /mnt/sdd2 I get "Failed to mount sdd2, operation permitted for root only"
[15:52] <mra90> tomreyn: the context is I try to do sudo apt install openssh-server
[15:52] <nekowaiidesu> not a technical question.. but can anyone explain why Disco Dingo is not LTS? isnt 18.10 like the unstable branch?
[15:52] <mra90> but can error "network unreachable"
[15:52] <mra90> so I assumed repository is down?
[15:52] <mra90> before the errros shwos up it is stuck at connectiong to repository
[15:55] <mra90> tomreyn: the erorr "cannot initiate the connection"
[15:56] <Tungdal> I've got a similar problem installing ubuntu via mini.iso. I tried several mirrors, but connection error
[15:59] <hggdh> nekowaiidesu: only <even years>.04 are LTS. So the last one was 18.04, the next one will be 20.04. 18.10, 19.04, and 19.10 are interim releases, preparing for the next LTS
[16:00] <leftyfb> nekowaiidesu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[16:06] <Guest41355> I recently got an external keyboard with mediakeys, one of those keys is Xf86Sleep, whenever i press it Ubuntu goes to sleep. My question is, how can I disable this function. I would still like to be able to bind it to some function.
[16:09] <nerobro> oh wow.  So, before I annoy anyone, is thre a help specific channel I should drop into if i'm having trouble with some applications not opening?
[16:10] <herrypopper> HI
[16:10] <nerobro> well i'll take that as a no.  :-)
[16:13] <nerobro> Since a recent system update, I can't open terminal, or file viewer.  When I try to launch them, they give the spinny circle for a bit, then.. nothing.  If I try to launch terminal from say ctrl-alt-3 It tells me it can't find the ... crap the word is esceaping me, but the window it's supposed to be sent to
[16:14] <JohnGavr> nerobro, version of Ubuntu?
[16:15] <Guest41355> Anyone? Any advice?
[16:15] <JohnGavr> Guest41355, advice about what?
[16:15] <Guest41355> I recently got an external keyboard with mediakeys, one of those keys is Xf86Sleep, whenever i press it Ubuntu goes to sleep. My question is, how can I disable this function. I would still like to be able to bind it to some function.
[16:16] <JohnGavr> What do you want to do with that key?
[16:17] <JohnGavr> go to shortctuts and find where it is bind
[16:18] <Guest41355> Maybe bind it to a program with sxhkd. I can't see it anywhere in shortcuts. Pressing the key causes the computer to go to sleep in XFCE and i3 too.
[16:19] <devslash2> I just powered up my Ubuntu 18.04 VM which I haven't used in a while. Instead of getting to the login screen, its booting to an empty purple screen and I have no idea what to do
[16:19] <JohnGavr> devslash2, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace try that
[16:20] <devslash2> didnt do anything
[16:20] <JohnGavr> Guest41355, if you want create a shortcut
[16:20] <JohnGavr> like firefox
[16:20] <JohnGavr> and bind there the key
[16:20] <JohnGavr> and then try to search
[16:20] <JohnGavr> devslash2, ctrl+alt+F2?
[16:21] <devslash2> sure that gets me to the terminal on console 2
[16:21] <JohnGavr> devslash2, do you mean on the main os?
[16:21] <JohnGavr> not at the VM?
[16:21] <devslash2> i dont know what ytou mean
[16:21] <Tungdal> there seem to be problems with the repos
[16:22] <JohnGavr> what ctrl+alf+f2 done to VM?
[16:22] <Guest41355> JohnGavr: I'm not sure that will help with XFCE and i3.
[16:22] <devslash2> ctrl alt 2 gets me to the terminal
[16:22] <JohnGavr> nice
[16:22] <JohnGavr> on terminal press
[16:22] <Tungdal> when I try to install Ubuntu via network install, the installation freezes in a purple screen, on terminal4, I see, it tries to download a file
[16:22] <devslash2> im logged in at terminal 2
[16:23] <JohnGavr> gnome-shell --replace
[16:23] <JohnGavr> Tungdal, what version?
[16:23] <Tungdal> 18.04 and 19.04
[16:23] <JohnGavr> both makes the same error?
[16:23] <devslash2> I get the error window manager warning: Unsupported session type
[16:24] <JohnGavr> devslash2, do the same and just press r
[16:24] <Tungdal> yes. tried several mirrors and versions, all make the same problem
[16:24] <devslash2> what do you mean press r
[16:24] <devslash2> im running this command in terminal
[16:24] <JohnGavr> yeah just the r letter
[16:24] <devslash2> as soon as I run it it returns to the terminal command prompt
[16:24] <devslash2> when ?
[16:25] <JohnGavr> on ctrl+alt+f2 window
[16:25] <Tungdal> url: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/disco-updates/restricted/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.xz
[16:25] <devslash2> if i press r it types r into the terminal
[16:25] <devslash2> you do realize that im at a terminal prompt right ?
[16:25] <JohnGavr> gnome-session --restart
[16:26] <JohnGavr> Tungdal, if you have the error on the terminal send it here
[16:27] <devslash2> unknown option --restart
[16:28] <JohnGavr> let me see the gnome-session options i don't remember it
[16:28] <JohnGavr> oh try to enter in failsafe
[16:28] <JohnGavr> gnome-session --failsafe
[16:35] <nerobro> JohnGavr: I'm running 18.04
[16:35] <nerobro> sorry about the delay there, went to the washroom
[16:36] <JohnGavr> try to search xterm on your menu
[16:36] <nerobro> xterm isn't installed.
[16:36] <nerobro> I downloaded antoehr terminal emulator
[16:36] <nerobro> that DOES open
[16:36] <JohnGavr> nice
[16:37] <nerobro> so something broke the x bindings?
[16:37] <JohnGavr> go to terminal
[16:37] <nerobro> uh huh
[16:37] <JohnGavr> and press gnome-terminal
[16:37] <nerobro> tried that, it opens the new fancy terminal again
[16:37] <nerobro> minus any settings I put on it.
[16:37] <nerobro> "cool retro term" is what I installed
[16:38] <nerobro> still doesn't explain why nautilus won't open either
[16:38] <ccm> Is there a unity channel?
[16:38] <JohnGavr> nautilus command
[16:38] <JohnGavr> what does?
[16:38] <ccm> For unity-ubuntu and ubuntu-touch?
[16:38] <ccm> Um hi?
[16:38] <JohnGavr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList ccm
[16:39] <JohnGavr> Take a look here
[16:39] <ccm> thank you for the link!
[16:39] <devslash2> ok I did that
[16:39] <devslash2> nothing happened
[16:39] <JohnGavr> fuck...
[16:40] <JohnGavr> devslash2, go to grub and try to login with other kernel if you have
[16:40] <leftyfb> !ohmy | JohnGavr
[16:41] <JohnGavr> leftyfb, sorry :D
[16:41] <qwebirc74289> Hi, have anyone experience with .pac file proxy on ubuntu 18.04?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> ask your questions to the channel qwebirc74289
[16:42] <devslash2> i cant
[16:42] <devslash2> it boots back to the same screen
[16:43] <JohnGavr> devslash2, i am off... i don't know more
[16:43] <qwebirc74289> I'm trying to configure proxy on my laptop via pac file, in nm I have imported pac file and so on ant its working in browsers, but not in terminal and export http_proxy = 'http://path.to.pac is not woking
[16:46] <zubuntu> Hi
[16:46] <zubuntu> Am i in ubuntu?
[16:46] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, yeah
[16:47] <zubuntu> I am having problem that i replaced my laptop but using my previous ssd already has ubuntu 18.04 and win10 dual boot
[16:47] <JohnGavr> what's the problem?
[16:48] <zubuntu> After i first logged in i ran updates and then rebooted but after reboot it doesnt login. It loops
[16:48] <JohnGavr> grub rescue?
[16:48] <zubuntu> I type my password it logins in to black screen and then get back to login screen
[16:48] <zubuntu> How can i fix this?
[16:49] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, on windows login ??
[16:49] <zubuntu> No John on ubuntu
[16:49] <zubuntu> Windows doesnt have problem
[16:50] <thsnr> qwebirc74289: proxy support varies from program to program. which application are you having issues with?
[16:50] <devslash2> i dunno what to do my ubuntu install seems to be hosed
[16:50] <zubuntu> I am typing now from mobile
[16:50] <JohnGavr> In the previous laptop did you install propierty drivers?
[16:50] <zubuntu> If someone can help me i will be glad
[16:50] <JohnGavr> like wireless or graphic??
[16:51] <devslash2> im at the purple login screen in ubuntu and I dont know what to do
[16:51] <zubuntu> John my laptop was in service more than 1 month finally today i got replacement laptop with new hardware
[16:51] <zubuntu> Intel graphics version upgraded
[16:51] <JohnGavr> i am asking you about propierty drivers.
[16:51] <zubuntu> devslash2 i am in purple login screen too
[16:51] <JohnGavr> Not the opensource drivers
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: press F1 to switch to textboot
[16:52] <devslash2> im using a VM BTW
[16:52] <zubuntu> John i am not sure not an expert in ubuntu yet
[16:52] <JohnGavr> proprietary*
[16:52] <zubuntu> I usually run sudo update
[16:52] <Alshulaih> مرحبا
[16:52] <JohnGavr> Did you install graphic driver via Software Update?
[16:53] <JohnGavr> i think it's graphic problem
[16:53] <devslash2> no
[16:53] <JohnGavr> and your new pc has different graphic card
[16:53] <zubuntu> John no i installed what s default only not 3rd party
[16:54] <zubuntu> Yes it has upgraded graphics card of intel
[16:54] <zubuntu> Intel hd graphics 4000
[16:54] <JohnGavr> hmm... ctrl-alt-f2
[16:54] <zubuntu> I was using ThinkPad x201 but now replaced with ThinkPad x230
[16:54] <JohnGavr> and gnome-session --fallback
[16:55] <devslash2> zubuntu, what version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[16:55] <JohnGavr> 18.04
[16:55] <zubuntu> 18.04
[16:55] <devslash2> same here
[16:55] <zubuntu> Yep
[16:55] <zubuntu> John whats the full command for session fallback?
[16:56] <devslash2> are you running Ubuntu as a VM ?
[16:56] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, gnome-session --fallback
[16:56] <zubuntu> No it s installed on ssd part
[16:56] <devslash2> oh o k
[16:56] <devslash2> in my case, im running it as a VM in Virtualbox but that shouldnt matter too much
[16:57] <zubuntu> John and then?
[16:57] <zubuntu> Reboot?
[16:57] <JohnGavr> didn't open the session?
[16:57] <zubuntu> Dev it sounds like graphics driver problem like me
[16:57] <devslash2> yea ive seen this issue before with Nvidia drivers
[16:58] <zubuntu> John after command gnome-session - - fallback nothing happened
[16:58] <JohnGavr> hm...
[16:58] <thsnr> JohnGavr: just to double-check, the man page for gnome-session mentions --failsafe instead of --fallback
[16:58] <devslash2> I wouldn't be surprised at all if thats the cause of this issue
[16:58] <devslash2> +
[16:58] <JohnGavr> ohhh
[16:58] <zubuntu> Huh
[16:58] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, gnome-session --fallsafe
[16:58] <spinningCat> i got this error when i start emulator this error is ubuntu Emulator: qemu-system-x86_64: warning: host doesn't support requested feature: CPUID.80000001H:ECX.abm [bit 5] ?
[16:59] <zubuntu> Hmm
[16:59] <JohnGavr> thsnr, thank you man
[16:59] <zubuntu> John still nothing
[16:59] <JohnGavr> apt install -f
[16:59] <JohnGavr> try that
[17:00] <JohnGavr> and reboot
[17:00] <zubuntu> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied)
[17:01] <JohnGavr> with sudo
[17:01] <zubuntu> Oh damn yes
[17:01] <thsnr> devslash2: how much video memory have you allocated to the vm? i remember having issues a while back where the default was not enough
[17:01] <devslash2> let me check
[17:02] <devslash2> whats weird is it worked when I last used the VM
[17:02] <devslash2> and I havent hanged anything
[17:02] <devslash2> 16
[17:02] <zubuntu> John 0 upgraded 0 newly installed
[17:02] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, make a reboot
[17:02] <zubuntu> Ok
[17:02] <devslash2> thsnr, how much video ram do you recommend ?
[17:03] <zubuntu> Still same :/
[17:03] <thsnr> devslash2: i remember cranking it up to 128, but it is possible less is enough
[17:04] <devslash2> I cant reboot right now cause Ive dtarted the upgrade to 19.04 but when I reboot I'll up it
[17:05] <zubuntu> John?
[17:06] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, you should include the full username in order for them to be highlighted.
[17:06] <zubuntu> I cant tab on mobile
[17:06] <JohnGavr> zubuntu, i think it's xorg problem! Because you change the laptop
[17:06] <JohnGavr> i think a fresh install will be the best solution...
[17:07] <JohnGavr> to change a disk in a new laptop with other hardware is a little bit dangerous
[17:07] <zubuntu_> ok i am on irssi now
[17:08] <zubuntu_> fresh install is too much work :/
[17:08] <zubuntu_> i didnt change disk i changed laptop disk is same
[17:08] <zubuntu_> :p
[17:08] <JohnGavr> we tell the same!
[17:08] <zubuntu_> irssi works terminal works why not desktop:
[17:09] <zubuntu_> ?
[17:09] <JohnGavr> Another solution enter in grub advanced and recovery mode
[17:09] <JohnGavr> and pick failsafeX
[17:09] <zubuntu_> how to do that?
[17:10] <JohnGavr> In grub menu you have Ubuntu/Windows/Advanced
[17:10] <JohnGavr> wirte?
[17:10] <JohnGavr> right?
[17:10] <Noisette> ville
[17:10] <zubuntu_> and ram check
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> can we help you Noisette ?
[17:10] <zubuntu_> let me check grub menu
[17:10] <zubuntu_> brb
[17:10] <JohnGavr> go to Advanced
[17:10] <JohnGavr> and you will see a recovery mode
[17:11] <JohnGavr> thsnr, are you from Greece??
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> JohnGavr: please keep it support related
[17:12] <gambl0re> if im using tlp to optimiza battery performance, do i still use powretop to --auto-tune?
[17:21] <sappheiros> would you please tell me what i'm doing wrong, given https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XXWdKp3Qnp/ & https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54695683/not-able-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-ubuntu ? the install for a debian package isn't working
[17:21] <sappheiros> i will try cd into the directory and just putting the .deb name without folders
[17:22] <teward> sappheiros: you should try that first but check what the command `pwd` outputs, you might already be *in* the folder in which case just `./filename.deb` would work.  OR, remove the `.` at the front of your full string
[17:22] <teward> because that '.' means "Start in current directory" for the file path
[17:23] <sappheiros> oh ... thanks for teaching me that ...
[17:23] <sappheiros> is that a bash alias?
[17:23] <sappheiros> the '.' = 'current directory'?
[17:25] <lordcirth_> sappheiros, '.' is the current directory, and
[17:25] <lordcirth_> '..' is parent
[17:25] <teward> that's just a Linux-ism
[17:25] <sappheiros> oh
[17:26] <sappheiros> hm. 'k thank you.
[17:26] <sappheiros> it worked btw after i changed directories, as i guess you expected
[17:29] <devslash2> so ubuntu is still hosed for me
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: press F1 at boot to see textbooting
[17:30] <devslash2> i did try that
[17:30] <gambl0re> is powertop and tlp meant to be run together?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: can you enter grub?
[17:32] <devslash2> i dunno how do you do that
[17:33] <devslash2> i can get to a terminal but the UI is broken
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: hold shift at boot
[17:33] <devslash2> im at a terminal
[17:33] <devslash2> boot
[17:35] <Guest41355> JohnGavr: I don't think it is GNOME setting that causes the behavior, since it also happen on XFCE and i3, but a setting somewhere more low level. Any idea or suggestion?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: try to enter grub to boot a previous kernel
[17:36] <ioria> Guest41355, about what ?
[17:37] <Guest41355> I recently got an external keyboard with mediakeys, one of those keys is Xf86Sleep, whenever i press it Ubuntu goes to sleep. My question is, how can I disable this function. I would still like to be able to bind it to some function.
[17:37] <ioria> Guest41355, xbindkeys
[17:37] <devslash2> i dont have any choices for previous kernels in the grub boot screen
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: you said it was an older install?
[17:38] <ioria> Guest41355, and can you paste  gsettings list-recursively | grep XF86 ?
[17:38] <devslash2> no
[17:38] <devslash2> im running 18.04
[17:38] <devslash2> this POS just boots to a blank purple screen
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: yes, you already said that
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> devslash2: try to boot without "quiet splash" ""
[17:40] <devslash2> i did
[17:41] <devslash2> same thing
[17:41] <Guest41355> ioria: gsettings list-recursively | grep XF86 did not return Xf86Sleep. Is xbindkeys more low level than sxhkd? I already tried binding with sxhkd, but it did both, start the program and the machine went to sleep.
[17:42] <ioria> Guest41355, weird , try    gsettings list-recursively | grep Xf86
[17:42] <Guest41355> ioria: That did not return anything.
[17:42] <ioria> Guest41355, i remapped my media-keys wih xbindkeys
[17:42] <devslash2> ok Ive made some progress
[17:43] <devslash2> I edited the grub command line and added nomodeset and am able to login in
[17:43] <ioria> Guest41355, i see .... well, can you open SystemSettings -> Keyboard and check your shortcuts ?
[17:45] <ioria> Guest41355, that Xf86Sleep should be mapped somewhere (occasionally also in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc)
[17:46] <Guest41355> ioria: Already checked, it's not in the shortcuts.
[17:46] <deadrom> hi
[17:47] <ioria> Guest41355, is that a fresh install ?
[17:47] <deadrom> so how's todays desktop coming along with 4K? is everythign adjustable on the fly so I don't need a looking glass to find anything?
[17:48] <AlexPortable> is it possible to connect to a linux pc with remote desktop while using the host screen resolution?
[17:49] <galaxie> Is there an equivalent to dnf's installroot?
[17:50] <deadrom> AlexPortable: do you want to conncet to an existing session and scale it or create a new session?
[17:51] <Guest41355> ioria: Ubuntu 18.04.2, been in use for a little while.
[17:52] <AlexPortable> deadrom doesn't really matter
[17:52] <AlexPortable> current session would be the best so i dont have to close everything, but if new session is better/easier then ill use that
[17:52] <ioria> Guest41355, what de ?
[17:53] <Guest41355> ioria: Tried xbindkeys, didn't work.
[17:53] <ioria> Guest41355, what desktop env ?
[17:53] <deadrom> AlexPortable: has to be RDP?
[17:53] <Guest41355> ioria: Currently GNOME, but I have been trying i3 lately. The same happens on i3 and XFCE.
[17:54] <ioria> Guest41355, and gsd-media-keys is running ?
[17:55] <ioria> Guest41355, ps -A | grep  gsd-media
[17:55] <Guest41355> ioria: Yes.
[17:55] <deadrom> AlexPortable: with vnc it's easy to scale the remote session to your values or even autoscale. RDP... it's a Microsoft thing. I wouldn't even know how to run a session. spawning a new session and dis/reconnecting I recommend x2go
[17:56] <ioria> Guest41355, no idea then (it should work, btw)
[17:56] <Guest41355> ioria: In case it makes a difference, the keyboard is Logitech MK270.
[17:57] <ioria> Guest41355, try this : https://www.reddit.com/r/i3wm/comments/8nq9c5/disable_xf86sleep_default_action/
[17:58] <devslash2> ok so ive made some progress. I added nomodeset to my grub config so I could log into Ubuntu, install the guest additions for my VM which includes video drivers and rebooted. Instead of booting to a blank purple splash screen. I get to the login prompt but after I log in the screen goes black and it doesnt log me in. If i switch to terminal 2 then back to 1, im presented with the login screen again
[18:02] <MrFox> Hi. I'm trying to install Bionic Beaver from an ISO file, and for some reason it fails to boot once the whole installation process is done. I checked the GRUB config file and it's all commented. Is this normal? Any quick fixes you would suggest?
[18:03] <tomreyn> MrFox: which grub configuration file were you looking at?
[18:03] <tomreyn> also, what's the name of the iso file you installed with?
[18:04] <EriC^^> MrFox: fails to boot how?
[18:04] <tomreyn> and finally, which graphics card do you have there?
[18:04] <MrFox> Just stops at a blank screen and a blinking cursor.
[18:05] <qwebirc55285> hi
[18:05] <EriC^^> MrFox: do you get the menu first? or if you hold shift?
[18:05] <qwebirc55285> why this error?:
[18:05] <EriC^^> hi qwebirc55285
[18:06] <qwebirc55285> i cannot isntal libudev
[18:06] <qwebirc55285> im using ubunto in windows 10
[18:06] <EriC^^> qwebirc55285: you mean in virtualbox/vmware?
[18:06] <devslash2> https://imgur.com/a/TSkkxRJ
[18:07] <qwebirc55285> not this: "The wonderful Ubuntu terminal is freely available for Windows 10.  As any Linux user knows, it's the command line terminal where the magic happens. It's perfect for file management, development, remote administration and a thousand other tasks."
[18:07] <MrFox> I tried the SHIFT, ESC and 'e' key. None of them worked.
[18:07] <devslash2> could those I/O errors be the reason why Ubuntu keeps crashing back to the login after I log in
[18:07] <leftyfb> devslash2: yes
[18:07] <devslash2> how do I fix this
[18:07] <MrFox> The file I was watching was /etc/default/grub
[18:08] <leftyfb> devslash2: you buy a new drive
[18:08] <devslash2> you mean hard drive ?
[18:08] <qwebirc55285> Eric, how do i instal libudev in the ubuntu terminal for windows 10?
[18:08] <leftyfb> devslash2: correct. If the filesystem complaining is a hard drive
[18:08] <devslash2> those aren't hard drive errors. that output is from Xorg.log
[18:08] <tomreyn> MrFox: it is not expected that /etc/default/grub contains only commented out lines, no.
[18:09] <leftyfb> devslash2: sorry, I haven't looked at any errors. I was just answering your question
[18:09] <leftyfb> devslash2: though, that could very well still be drive errors
[18:09] <MrFox> This is my GRUB config file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h36wsK6NnQ/
[18:09] <devslash2> not likely since this is a VM
[18:10] <MrFox> What's wrong with this?
[18:10] <EriC^^> MrFox: are you in a libe usb right now?
[18:10] <qwebirc55285> hi, how do i instal libudev in the ubuntu terminal for windows 10?
[18:10] <EriC^^> MrFox: the file is normal
[18:10] <leftyfb> !wsl | qwebirc55285
[18:10] <EriC^^> qwebirc55285: sorry no idea about the ubuntu under windows
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc55285: You can't install that. ubuntu for windows 10 is not the same ubuntu that is supported here. for assistance ask in #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows-wsl
[18:10] <EriC^^> MrFox: *live
[18:11] <tomreyn> MrFox: nothing is wrong with this /etc/default/grub file, and if you look closely you'll see it does not only contain commented out lines.
[18:11] <qwebirc55285> link to #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows-wsl please?
[18:11] <MrFox> Yeah. Live USB fron which I'm trying to get the other live USB to work.
[18:11] <leftyfb> qwebirc55285: /join #ubuntu-on-windows or /join ##windows-wsl
[18:11] <MrFox> *from
[18:14] <qwebirc55285> how do i instull full ubuntu in laptop? i need to split hard drive?
[18:14] <JuJUBee> I am trying to get mysql-server running on ubuntu 18.04.  I tried installing then realized it is different than in 16.04 so I tired following https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04  it didn't work so I tried to purge it ans start over but now it seems even worse
[18:14] <MrFox> The lines that are not commented out seem to have nothing to do with the boot process.
[18:14] <JuJUBee> can someone help me get it running?
[18:15] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: what exactly did not work when you followed the digitalocean how-to?
[18:16] <EriC^^> MrFox: the other live usb?
[18:16] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: is this an upgraded ubuntu installation, did you have mysql-server installed there previously? do you need to migrate / keep your mysql databases?
[18:16] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, After a reboot, mysql did not start.
[18:16] <JuJUBee> No, fresh install
[18:17] <JuJUBee> no databases to worry about
[18:17] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: please post   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[18:17] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: please post:   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[18:17] <MrFox> Yeah. I have two of them. One which I'm using right now and the other one which I'm trying to get working using aforementioned one.
[18:18] <MrFox> Is there a surefire GRUB config which I could just copy and use to boot from my USB in some sort of recovery mode as I'm suspecting VGA issues.
[18:19] <devslash2> dammit
[18:19] <devslash2> time to reinstall Ubuntu
[18:19] <MrFox> *?
[18:19] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: then run this and copy and paste the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com (and post the url here):  sudo apt purge mysql-server* default-mysql-server*
[18:19] <devslash2> I canot boot into Ubuntu after i log in it shows a black screen
[18:20] <EriC^^> devslash2: sounds like a graphics probem
[18:20] <EriC^^> MrFox: so you have a usb you installed ubuntu to via another live usb? and that's what isnt working?
[18:20] <devslash2> i dunno how to fix it without doing a fresh install
[18:20] <EriC^^> devslash2: was it working post install?
[18:20] <MrFox> Yup!
[18:21] <devslash2> it used to work
[18:21] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, first output https://termbin.com/0q6f
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> "2019 is truly, finally shaping up to be the year of Linux on the desktop," writes PC World's senior editor, adding "Laptops, too!"
[18:21] <devslash2> just stopped working one day
[18:21] <lordcirth_> !dualboot | qwebirc55285
[18:21] <EriC^^> devslash2: aha did you try using a previous kernel? an upgrade  might have caused it to stop
[18:21] <devslash2> no I cant
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> devslash2: Probably just need to fix the video driver.
[18:21] <EriC^^> devslash2: why not?
[18:21] <MrFox> And now I'm checking the config file and trying to find a workaround to get it to boot.
[18:21] <devslash2> theres no kernel options
[18:22] <devslash2> as far as i can tell
[18:22] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, second https://termbin.com/sdrn
[18:22] <devslash2> on the grub boot screen
[18:22] <EriC^^> MrFox: if grub doesnt show then i'd guess something else is a miss
[18:22] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: ok, looks fine so far, keep it coming.
[18:23] <EriC^^> MrFox: tbh, there was a fellow the other day here with similar problems to yours, his usb install just wouldnt work for some reason, except he would get a "grub loading" screen and it would hang, he ended up just using it on a different pc and it worked for some reason
[18:23] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, third... https://pastebin.com/pr19se2R
[18:24] <MrFox> It really is peculiar as I have no trouble booting my Mint Live USB, and, as far as I know, It too is built on top of Ubuntu.
[18:24] <gambl0re> is powertop and tlp meant to be run together?
[18:24] <devslash2> I dont get how Ubuntu can break without me doing anything
[18:24] <lordcirth_> gambl0re, I think a lot of people do
[18:25] <MrFox> Dang!
[18:25] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: do /var/lib/mysql* or /etc/mysql* still exist?
[18:25] <EriC^^> MrFox: it's funny he said the same thing, why does the live usb boot and not the installed one xD it's a real rabbit hole though
[18:25] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, no
[18:25] <lordcirth_> devslash2, did it get shut down suddenly? memory or disk bitflip?
[18:25] <MrFox> My words exactly.
[18:25] <devslash2> it just keeps crashing back to the login screen
[18:25] <devslash2> no
[18:26] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: is there ~/.my.cnf or /root/.my.cnf ?
[18:26] <devslash2> after i log in I get a black screen
[18:26] <udud> hello
[18:26] <devslash2> if i switch to terminal 2 then back to 1, im back at the login screen
[18:26] <lordcirth_> udud, hi
[18:26] <udud> hello fucker
[18:26] <EriC^^> devslash2: it should be under advanced in the grub screen, it always keeps 2 kernels
[18:26] <lordcirth_> devslash2, ok, so does dmesg, syslog, or Xorg.0.log say anything?
[18:26] <lordcirth_> !ohmy | udud
[18:26] <EriC^^> !ops udud
[18:27] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, no
[18:27] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: okay, then it's time to install the mysql server again:  sudo apt install default-mysql-server
[18:27] <devslash2> just a second
[18:28] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, what is diff between that and mysql-server?
[18:28] <MrFox> I took different approaches to this and even tried using minimal CD iso. Same results. Now I'm thinking it's a GRUB issue and working my way towards figuring out how to edit my config file and what parameters to pass onto kernel.
[18:29] <EriC^^> MrFox: well it's certainly weird, you should be able to get a grub menu you know?
[18:29] <EriC^^> MrFox: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' for me please
[18:29] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: there is very little difference at this time.
[18:29] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, should I have install default-mysql-client as well?
[18:30] <devslash2> lordcirth_, dmesg shows an error drm_kms_helper: failed to set mode on [CRTC:31:crtc:0]
[18:30] <devslash2> is that relevant ?
[18:30] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: you can compare outputs of    apt depends default-mysql-server    and    apt depends mysql-server
[18:31] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, default-mysql-server returned errors... https://pastebin.com/WDkytHPt
[18:31] <EriC^^> devslash2: i'd try the previous kernel
[18:32] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: the mysql-server package depends on the mysql client package at this time. if you will always need to have a mysql client on this system, then yes, install default-mysql-client, too
[18:33] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, dpkg errors
[18:33] <Xtreme> Hey guys
[18:33] <Xtreme> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/104/netspeed/ -> I am trying to install this extension
[18:33] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: i'm looking at them now, give me a minute
[18:33] <Xtreme> and all I see is "ERROR"
[18:33] <Xtreme> How can i debug it?
[18:34] <MrFox> It's mounted to: /dev/sdc
[18:34] <MrFox> And /dev/sdb is booted, which is where I am now.
[18:35] <EriC^^> MrFox: ok
[18:36] <devslash2> so I found a solution
[18:36] <ToxicMenace> in ubuntu 18.04 is gnome-shell the default, right?
[18:37] <lordcirth_> ToxicMenace, it is
[18:37] <ToxicMenace> sweet
[18:39] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: i don't know why this happens, and can't find reliable information on it. could you please file a bug report?  ubuntu-bug default-mysql-server
[18:41] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, I have never used this ubuntu-bug, how to I write a description?
[18:41] <devslash2> is anyone else here having a problem logging into Ubuntu ? I found that choosing Wayland at the login screen lets me log in normally
[18:41] <EriC^^> did you try the advanced options in grub yet
[18:41] <EriC^^> devslash2: ^
[18:42] <devslash2> no
[18:42] <devslash2> I didnt have to
[18:42] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, I see, when I press send, it takes me to launchpad to complete it...
[18:42] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: if this is a headless server (it seems to be) then ubuntu-bug will print a url you can copy to your desktop and open in a web browser there to continue with the bug report
[18:43] <EriC^^> devslash2: but you're using a different display protocol now
[18:43] <devslash2> ok so ?
[18:43] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: you ran ubuntu-bug on the system you tried to install mysql-server on, right?
[18:44] <EriC^^> devslash2: what do you mean so? :D if you're happy to work around your problem by using wayland then why are you still asking for help here
[18:44] <devslash2> I wasnt I was offering a solution for anyone else having this because there was someone else in here with the exact same problem
[18:44] <EriC^^> ah ok
[18:44] <EriC^^> gotcha
[18:46] <EriC^^> wayland isnt that awesome though, i dont know how far it's come, maybe it's usable these days
[18:46] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, oops, no my desktop.  too many windows open...
[18:46] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: please run it on the computer where you installed mysql-server on.
[18:46] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, doing it now...
[18:47] <EriC^^> devslash2: if i were you i'd try an older kernel, possibly a kernel update screwed stuff up and the newer kernel that gets released soon will have a fix in it, it's up to you though
[18:47] <EriC^^> last i used wayland it wasnt very smooth and it kinda felt like it was a work-in-progress, but that was a while ago
[18:50] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, done.
[18:50] <Beam_Inn_> trying to run sudo apt install hexchat on a new operating system and getting read-only errors
[18:50] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: can you tell me the bug # ?
[18:50] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: ah got it #1828878
[18:51] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: what version of ubuntu?
[18:53] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: looks good (with the minor exception of a reference to ubuntu 18.04.3, which does not yet exist)
[18:53] <Beam_Inn_> 18.04 mate
[18:53] <EriC^^> Beam_Inn_: can you type 'mount | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here?
[18:54] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: how did you install it? What is your hardware setup?
[18:54] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, damn, fat fingered  18.04.2
[18:54] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: now to work around this, i suggest you    sudo mkdir -p /etc/mysql/conf.d && sudo apt -f install
[18:55] <Beam_Inn_> i'm shutting down if it will even let me do that
[18:55] <Beam_Inn_> i think it locked because of updates?
[18:55] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: add   sudo touch /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf
[18:55] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: Do you want us to help you?
[18:56] <Beam_Inn_> leftyfb Time isn't going to jump forward.  the computer is off.  when it's on i'll do what i can
[18:56] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (3 vs 7).
[18:56] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: if you'd like us to help you, you should not be taking your own steps and answering the questions people ask you and wait for direction
[18:56] <JuJUBee> should I just reinstall 18.04 from scratch?
[18:56] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: can you show the full set of commands you ran, and the full output they produced, please.
[18:57] <JuJUBee> https://pastebin.com/NwK9Mskq
[18:57] <Beam_Inn_> leftyfb that makes a lot of sense except you don't warrant that level of respect do you?
[18:57] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: if this was a clean ubuntu 18.04.2 installation then i don't think reinstalling it will serve any purpose
[18:57] <Beam_Inn_> i barely know you man
[18:58] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: so this is still running?
[18:58] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: good luck in your endeavours
[18:58] <compdoc> children dont give respect these days. so sad
[18:58] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, the process? no, the computer, yes
[18:58] <JuJUBee> I have my prompt back
[18:59] <Beam_Inn_> https://termbin.com/ttzo
[19:00] <Beam_Inn_> it's a fresh install.  I don't understand why I should have to post huge logs of my system details to fix something fresh out of the box
[19:00] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: so there was no further output after line 14 of what you pasted?
[19:01] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, no
[19:01] <JuJUBee> just my prompt
[19:01] <Beam_Inn_> and then it's like this guy wants to condescend to me.  yeah right.  Everyone on IRC touts linux, and when it's broken out of the box, all of the blame gets shifted away from the os
[19:02] <hggdh> Beam_Inn_: nothing pop up as weird on you filesystems. What exactly happens when you try 'sudo apt install hexchat'?
[19:02] <lordcirth_> Beam_Inn_, if you want help, try cooperating with the people who are volunteering their time to help you.
[19:02] <Beam_Inn_> it says write-protected
[19:02] <ioria> Beam_Inn_, RO errors are usually related to the drives not tothe OS
[19:03] <hggdh> Beam_Inn_: we need the *actual* output of the command
[19:03] <Beam_Inn_> This drive worked last time I used ubuntu
[19:03] <ioria> Beam_Inn_, your reboot probably forced a Fsck and fixed it
[19:03] <Beam_Inn_> i haver no idea
[19:04] <Beam_Inn_> it didn't work when the pc came back on, now it works
[19:04] <ioria> Beam_Inn_,  check the logs ?
[19:04] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: hmm that's so strange, and i can't even find any similar bug reports. but you said this is a fresh ubuntu 18.04.2 amd64 installation, right?
[19:04] <Beam_Inn_> and look, i'm in a bad mood, i shouldn't spread bad energy.  I'm getting yelled at down the back of my neck to back up my family member's phone
[19:04] <Beam_Inn_> and it's like 3 a.m
[19:05] <bprompt> 3am over there, not here though =)
[19:05] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, yes it is.  I isntalled 18.04, then apt update/upgrade then apache2 php7.2 and tried mysql-client & mysql-server.  Then you helped me purge and here we are...
[19:07] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: can you join #ubuntu-server, too, please. maybe one of the server team will respond.
[19:07] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: i will try to reproduce this now#
[19:08] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, how do I get current status posted on #ubuntu-server
[19:10] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: what i asked in -server before you jkoined is this <tomreyn> is bug1828878 known? is this not the right way to install mysql server on a fresh ubuntu installation?
[19:10] <JuJUBee> ok
[19:12] <Beam_Inn_> is there a way to force this phone to not be read-only?  I can't copy its files down
[19:12] <Beam_Inn_> it's an android pos
[19:13] <Beam_Inn_> there's no 'allow computer to access this device' option, and I don't want to try to network these computers right now because I already know it's several hours of work
[19:19] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: We do not support Android here. Try #android
[19:22] <Beam_Inn_> lol.  the phone doesn't work with the os
[19:22] <Beam_Inn_> I'll ask android.
[19:25] <Beam_Inn_> holy crap it works.  linux really is amazing
[19:26] <Beam_Inn_> i thought linux was this amazing os where you could plug any device in, and it would work.  and it is
[19:26] <mrchairman> lol, wait until you want to print something
[19:26] <Beam_Inn_> i can't focus on learning linux because I'm spending all of my time learning C++
[19:27] <Beam_Inn_> it's very difficult, too.  i don't find c++ easy.  It's getting easier.  The "headaches" stopped.  Things are starting to make sense.
[19:28] <Beam_Inn_> My only issue is, still at this point, am I going to die not knowing why people "point to the address of a variable".
[19:28] <Beam_Inn_> so this is the other wager I have on linux....
[19:28] <tomreyn> this channel is really only for support Q & A, please move any social chat elsewhere (try #ubuntu-offtopic)
[19:28] <Beam_Inn_> basically my computer is running at full steam, and the fan is pushing off tons of heat just so it can copy files from point A to point B.
[19:29] <Beam_Inn_> I have a bet that the CPU or mobo will break within 3 months.
[19:29] <tomreyn> Beam_Inn_: ^
[19:29] <Beam_Inn_> why is that off-topic?  Linux runs hot -> on-topic.
[19:29] <Beam_Inn_> I've broken 7 perfectly good computers on linux.  that's why I keep "starting over".
[19:30] <Beam_Inn_> all broken motherboards.
[19:30] <tomreyn> if this is a topic you're trying to get help with, then please state so. so far it looks like you'Re telling a story.
[19:31] <Beam_Inn_> linux ate my computer.  linux is eating this computer.  help
[19:31] <tomreyn> unless you'Re trolling now, please provide details.
[19:31] <Beam_Inn_> it seems like my computer is being over-clocked.
[19:32] <tomreyn> that'd likely be a hardware issue. please check your mainboard firmware ocnfiguration.
[19:32] <Beam_Inn_> I wish I could give you more details.  I could run a top, but I'm sure it will just say the resources are at 100% by caja
[19:34] <Bashing-om> Beam_Inn_: Cleaned the box lately ? Dust in the components == insualtion, and dust on the fans and ducts hinders air flow == Heat.
[19:34] <bprompt> Beam_Inn_:    you said it was 3am over there, Australia?, maybe you should go get some ZZZZZ's and raincheck this one for later :)
[19:34] <tomreyn> having a look at the process list and identifying any processes which consume a lot of CPU resources would be a good start, if you assume it's an issue with ubuntu
[19:37] <TJ-> I suspect the issue is the CPU is struggling to understand and keep up with the story!
[19:38] <Beam_Inn_> the mainboard config worked fine on windows for years.  was windows misinterpretting the cmos data?  It defeats the purpose of the bet to screw aroudn with that
[19:39] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: what are the specs of this computer?
[19:44] <Beam_Inn_> you're right i should get some sleep.  best case scenario I point to the suspected underlying cause of the mobo malfunctions.
[19:44] <Beam_Inn_> leftyfb i'll update you on that next time.  thank you so much for your help.  next time, i won't take steps of my own
[19:55] <ericus> hmm, I sometimes randomly loose LAN connection
[19:58] <ericus> dmesg | grep con gives me this, dont know if it's relevant
[19:59] <ericus> nf_conntrack: default automatic helper assignment has been turned off for security reasons and CT-based  firewall rule not found. Use the iptables CT target to attach helpers instead.
[20:00] <ericus> I have to do a sudo enp3s0 down && sudo enp3s0 up to make it work again
[20:00] <ericus> occurs randomly, all other machines connected work fine
[20:04] <zubuntu> hi
[20:04] <ericus> hello
[20:04] <zubuntu> i deleted lighdm while trying to dpkg-reconfigure
[20:04] <zubuntu> now i cant get ubuntu login screeen
[20:05] <zubuntu> how can i fix it?
[20:05] <ericus> are you getting dropped to a shell?
[20:06] <zubuntu> well it shows black screen
[20:06] <zubuntu> flashing some lines
[20:06] <zubuntu> i am trying to upload screenshot now
[20:06] <ericus> Just a black screen or a shell?
[20:06] <zubuntu> /dev/sda3: recovering journal
[20:07] <leftyfb> zubuntu: which version of ubuntu?
[20:07] <zubuntu> /dev/sda3: clearing orphaned inode 3014662 (uid=999, gid=999, mode=0100600, size=0)
[20:07] <zubuntu> leftyfb: 18.04
[20:08] <leftyfb> zubuntu: This was upgraded from 16.04? A fresh install of 18.04 does not use lightdm
[20:08] <Beam_Inn_> is there a way to make the computer not run so hot in the software?
[20:09] <lordcirth_> Beam_Inn_, powertop and/or tlp. You can also turn down screen brightness
[20:09] <ericus> Beam_Inn_ laptop?
[20:09] <zubuntu> leftyfb:  no it was fresh install but i replaced my laptop with new one and put my ssd which had already ubuntu installed. it happened after i updated
[20:09] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: if you don't have the time to give us the specs of the computer you're having potential hardware issues with, the you don't have time to ask more questions regarding the same issue
[20:09] <Beam_Inn_> laptop
[20:09] <ericus> powertop
[20:09] <Beam_Inn_> what command
[20:09] <zubuntu> i mean after i updated ubuntu login screen started looping then i deleted lighdm while trying something
[20:09] <ericus> sudo apt install powetop
[20:09] <zubuntu> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:09] <ericus> sudo apt install powertop
[20:09] <ericus> *
[20:10] <Beam_Inn_> ericus what's the powertop command to slow it as quicky as possible before it pops
[20:10] <leftyfb> zubuntu: again, lightdm is not installed by default in 18.04 (gnome)
[20:10] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: what are the specs of this computer?
[20:10] <zubuntu> leftyfb: then why did happen after i deleted it?
[20:10] <ericus> Beam_Inn_ how do you mean?
[20:10] <zubuntu> maybe it doesnt see gdm3 also?
[20:11] <ericus> Like it powers off from overheating?
[20:11] <Beam_Inn_> yeah powers off from overheating
[20:11] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: what are the specs of this computer?
[20:12] <ericus> Beam_Inn_ check your CPU fan, I bet it's fucked up with dust
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[20:12] <Beam_Inn_> it's not dusty
[20:12] <leftyfb> !ohmy | ericus
[20:13] <Beam_Inn_> the fan is in top shape.  i blew it out last week, and it's spinning like a maniac.  When I copy files, the OS is overclocking it
[20:13] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: what are the specs of this computer?
[20:13] <Beam_Inn_> I can do like 5 gigs at a time before it gets very hot, around 10 gigs it's ready to shut down
[20:13] <Beam_Inn_> it's a pentium M: pretty old.
[20:14] <ericus> I bet there is dust.
[20:14] <zubuntu> i am having this lines flashing on a black screen now : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5BqPZZDzZR/
[20:14] <Beam_Inn_> powertop doesn't limit cpu activity
[20:14] <ericus> Litterally just got a laptop from a friend, it was filled with dust
[20:14] <Beam_Inn_> it just tells you what is using it
[20:14] <zubuntu> is my ubuntu partition f.ked up or what?
[20:14] <Beam_Inn_> i blew it out 2 days ago. it's not dusty
[20:15] <lordcirth_> Beam_Inn_, powertop reduces power & heat when *not* maxed out, which is useful but not your problem here.
[20:15] <Beam_Inn_> i was fixing fans on the other computer
[20:15] <ericus> what does "watch sensors" show you Beam_Inn_?
[20:16] <lordcirth_> Beam_Inn_, sudo apt install cpufrequtils; cpufreq-info
[20:16] <lordcirth_> You could probably downclock it; but performance would be even worse.
[20:17] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: please run the following and paste the link here: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};free -h ; sudo dmidecode -t 4;)
[20:17] <activist> hi leftyfb what's up?
[20:17] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, sorry, I wasn't following before, what happened before it stopped booting?
[20:18] <galopa> kikou
[20:19] <ceibal> hola
[20:19] <leftyfb> !es | ceibal
[20:21] <Beam_Inn_> i want to limit its max usage lordcirth_
[20:21] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: please run the following and paste the link here: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};free -h ; sudo dmidecode -t 4;)
[20:21] <Beam_Inn_> leftyfb I don't know what that does. is it dangerous?
[20:21] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: well i replaced my laptop with new hardware and put my old ssd inside with ubuntu 18.04 installed already. at the beginning it logged in without problem then i ran sudo update commands to update. and then after reboot login screen started looping. then i googled about this and read something about gdm3 and lightdm , i removed lightdm and rebooted. now it shows black screen flashing lines in
[20:21] <zubuntu> the link :https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5BqPZZDzZR/
[20:21] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: no. It provides information about your hardware
[20:21] <Beam_Inn_> whoa.  awesome
[20:22] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, and you don't have a login prompt? What if you press Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[20:22] <Beam_Inn_> erm when i typed that it just asked me for more >
[20:22] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: no. it opens terminal but those lines keep flashing. it doesnt let me type any command
[20:22] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: then you typed something wrong
[20:23] <zubuntu> i dont have access to login screen anymore
[20:23] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, ok. Reboot, and in the grub menu, choose other options > recovery. Then root shell.
[20:23] <il> hi
[20:23] <zubuntu> lordcirth_:  i am on there already now
[20:24] <zubuntu> i did sudo fsck -f / but it gives error
[20:24] <il> how can transfer files from hot spot to android
[20:24] <leftyfb> !android | il
[20:24] <leftyfb> il: we do not support Android here. Try #android
[20:24] <Beam_Inn_> http://termbin.com/pee2 lordcirth_
[20:24] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, what error?
[20:25] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: fsck from util-linux 2.31.1
[20:25] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: you did not run the entry command I gave you
[20:25] <Beam_Inn_> il also consider Cloud
[20:25] <Beam_Inn_> I did, leftyfb.  It said: ">".
[20:25] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: e2fsck 1.44.1 (24-mar-2018)
[20:25] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: /dev/sda3 is mounted.
[20:25] <lordcirth_> Beam_Inn_, you probably missed a close-paren )
[20:25] <zubuntu> e2fsck: cannot continue, aborting.
[20:25] <Beam_Inn_> i can add one more
[20:26] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: Again, you typed something wrong. Copy and paste the entire single line I gave you, paste it into your terminal and hit enter
[20:26] <il> no
[20:26] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, right, so you'll need to run a liveUSB and fsck it
[20:26] <Beam_Inn_> also )
[20:26] <il> from ubuntu to android
[20:26] <lordcirth_> You can't fsck it while mounted
[20:26] <zubuntu> damn :/
[20:26] <zubuntu> i need to download first
[20:27] <Beam_Inn> what should I paste?
[20:27] <Beam_Inn_> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};free -h ; sudo dmidecode -t 4;)
[20:28] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: yes, paste that into your terminal and hit enter
[20:29] <Beam_Inn> https://termbin.com/zo82
[20:29] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: can i use 19.04 image for that?
[20:29] <zubuntu> or should it be 18.04 ?
[20:29] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, just to fix it? That should be fine if that's what you have
[20:29] <Beam_Inn> how do I go about limiting my CPU's max usage?  Will it also limit how much of my ram is being used?
[20:30] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: yes other day i downloaded 19.04 to test on vm
[20:30] <Beam_Inn> I don't have any interest for this old computer to run "fast".  I just want it to be very stable.
[20:30] <Beam_Inn> I ran the CPU at 80% in windows
[20:30] <Beam_Inn> I feel like I just started my car without oil
[20:30] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try to boot the previous kernel using grub, the update might have installed a new kernel that doesnt work with your pc
[20:31] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: What do you do that causes the CPU to spike?
[20:31] <zubuntu> EriC^^: so should i download 18.04 iso?
[20:31] <Beam_Inn> Copied files
[20:31] <EriC^^> zubuntu: what for?
[20:31] <Beam_Inn> i'm telling you, i have the same problem with every computer I use on ubuntu.  they always overheat out of the box
[20:31] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: from what device to what device?
[20:31] <EriC^^> zubuntu: hold shift when the pc boots to get grub, then go to advanced options -> choose the older kernel
[20:31] <zubuntu> EriC^^: ah i autoremoved old kernels
[20:31] <ericus> sudo stress -c 20
[20:31] <Beam_Inn> cell phone to exthdd
[20:32] <zubuntu> only .48 and .47 versions
[20:32] <EriC^^> zubuntu: autoremove keeps the previous one for this specific case
[20:32] <thaurwylth> Does some document reader or LibreOffice-like tool read PPTX files right out of the box?
[20:32] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: so usb -> usb
[20:32] <zubuntu> i dont remember exact versions
[20:32] <Beam_Inn> i guess you don't need the commentary but i'm just saying
[20:32] <Beam_Inn> yes usb-usb
[20:32] <zubuntu> let me try previous version then. if it doesn work?
[20:32] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: Try copying from either of the usb devices to your desktop and see if you have the same issue
[20:33]  * Beam_Inn gulp
[20:33] <lordcirth_> thaurwylth, Libreoffice Impress will, but there may be bits that don't work quite the same.
[20:33] <Beam_Inn> here goes
[20:33] <il> guys how can share file with hot spot ubuntu?
[20:33] <lordcirth_> il, I have no idea what you're asking
[20:33] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try first then see
[20:33] <thaurwylth> Lordcirth_, thanks! That will probably not matter. Let's see...
[20:33] <zubuntu> recovery mode or normal boot?
[20:33] <il> share files with wifi
[20:33] <EriC^^> il: there's an android app for it called airdroid or something
[20:34] <EriC^^> from google play store
[20:34] <lordcirth_> il, if you want to go *from* Ubuntu, you can run 'python -m SimpleHTTPServer' in the directory.
[20:34] <il> thanks
[20:34] <leftyfb> il: it will be MUCH quicker to just use a cloud solution like dropbox or nextcloud or something
[20:34] <Beam_Inn> il those apps all suck.  use cloud.  cloud is great.  google drive or dropbox or outlook
[20:34] <zubuntu> EriC^^: no luck
[20:34] <jcotton> https://send.firefox.com/
[20:34] <zubuntu> it is giving same clean flash
[20:34] <jcotton> good way too
[20:34] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you get a black screen?
[20:34] <Beam_Inn> il is your internet usage limited?
[20:35] <zubuntu> black screen and flashing lines about dev/sda3
[20:35] <thaurwylth> Wait, is Impress a package that is not automatically wrapped in with the basic Ubuntu (Studio) packages? I mean I can install it with Apt, no problem there, I was just thinking that maybe it's already there and I missed something.
[20:35] <lordcirth_> thaurwylth, iirc only Writer is installed by default now? They are large packages.
[20:35] <EriC^^> zubuntu: what does it say about /dev/sda3
[20:36] <EriC^^> it sounds like you powered off the pc using the button the last time, if i had to guess
[20:36] <zubuntu> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5BqPZZDzZR/
[20:36] <thaurwylth> Lordcirth_, thanks again½
[20:36] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok try pressing alt+f2 any console?
[20:37] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i did but it doesnt let me type any command. dev/sda3 lines keep flashing over and over
[20:37] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try pressing enter and log in
[20:38] <EriC^^> it should only print those lines once i think, those are the fsck lines, it says the filesystem is clean though
[20:38] <zubuntu> EriC^^: it flashes. not only once
[20:38] <zubuntu> it keeps flashing
[20:38] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok, try pressing alt+ctrl+del
[20:38] <EriC^^> it should reboot
[20:39] <EriC^^> hopefully next reboot it wont mention any sda fsck
[20:39] <zubuntu> EriC^^: it does
[20:39] <zubuntu> i tried many times :/
[20:39] <zubuntu> can i use live usb key?
[20:39] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try entering grub
[20:40] <zubuntu> ok then?
[20:40] <zubuntu> how to enter grub?
[20:40] <EriC^^> hold shift
[20:40] <zubuntu> i am on there already i guess
[20:40] <zubuntu> ubuntu / advanced options
[20:40] <EriC^^> zubuntu: press "e" over ubuntu
[20:40] <zubuntu> ok
[20:41] <EriC^^> in the line that say linux /boot/vmlinuz add "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" before quiet splash
[20:41] <EriC^^> then press F10 to boot
[20:41] <EriC^^> zubuntu: actually, scratch that, go to advanced options
[20:42] <EriC^^> then choose to do a fsck on the system
[20:42] <EriC^^> then press to continue booting
[20:43] <zubuntu> /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-48-generic root=UUID=54aceca5-a4dc-4c1e-9d34-7dcb30ea8756 ro quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff
[20:43] <EriC^^> ok press Esc, go to advanced options -> recovery mode
[20:43] <EriC^^> then fsck
[20:43] <Beam_Inn> same problem
[20:43] <zubuntu> EriC^^: same problem
[20:43] <Beam_Inn> leftyfb,
[20:44] <zubuntu> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[20:44] <EriC^^> huh
[20:44] <Beam_Inn> i've eralized i can pause it, which is nice, but i really don't see why there's any reason to push the hardware for a file transfer
[20:44] <EriC^^> did you choose anything before the fsck? zubuntu
[20:44] <zocijux[m]> siemka wam
[20:44] <EriC^^> like start networking
[20:45] <zubuntu> i tried clean dpkg update grub
[20:45] <zubuntu> but i dont remember choosing network
[20:45] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ah that's why
[20:45] <EriC^^> it has to mount the filesystem read-write to update grub, so no more fsck
[20:45] <zubuntu> hmm
[20:45] <zubuntu> what should i do now?
[20:45] <EriC^^> zubuntu: reboot with ctrl+alt+del again and same then only choose fsck first
[20:46] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i already tried that
[20:46] <zubuntu> same error
[20:46] <EriC^^> boot a live usb
[20:46] <zubuntu> e2fsck: cannot continuem, aborting.
[20:46] <wcarson> anyone have an idea why after a fresh install, when i enter MOK Manager, it refuses to accept the password the installer made me set?
[20:47] <Beam_Inn_> lordcirth_ is there an easy command that will underclock the cpu and ram?
[20:47] <zubuntu> ok which tool is the recommended to creat bootable usb key?
[20:47] <zubuntu> i have 19.04 iso downloaded already
[20:47] <EriC^^> zubuntu: on what os?
[20:47] <zubuntu> windows
[20:47] <thaurwylth> Hey, how come these were deemed to be only about 16 megs in size? Should I think this size is oddly mysterious? libfreehand-0.1-1 libmspub-0.1-1 libpagemaker-0.0-0 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
[20:47] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i like https://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[20:47] <EriC^^> there's also rufus
[20:48] <zubuntu> i am familiar with rufus
[20:48] <zubuntu> ok
[20:48] <Bashing-om> wcarson: Caps lock has caught me more than just once.
[20:49] <wcarson> hmm
[20:49] <Beam_Inn_> found this on superuser: for x in /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/; do echo 1700000 | sudo tee $x/scaling_max_freq; done
[20:49] <wcarson> i'm fairly sure i'd have noticed the light.. also it's been multiple reboots and attempts
[20:50] <Beam_Inn_> but how do I know wehre to set my cpu?
[20:52] <wcarson> i'm going to try 18.04 instead of 19.04 and see if it makes a difference
[20:53] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/485875/why-do-file-transfers-over-usb-slow-down-my-whole-computer
[20:53] <wcarson> also it's not at all clear if i actually require secureboot, it doesn't tell me what drivers require it, if they loaded, what happens if secureboot is disabled, etc..
[20:53] <Beam_Inn_> i just want to slow my cpu down
[20:54] <wcarson> hahaha
[20:54] <wcarson> well.
[20:55] <wcarson> thank you, Bashing-om
[20:55] <wcarson> it wasn't caps-lock, but rather num-lock on my small keyboard
[20:55] <wcarson> siiiighhhh
[20:55] <Bashing-om> wcarson: Good that you seen it :D
[20:56]  * wcarson facepalms
[20:57] <zubuntu> EriC^^: ok usb live key is ready now
[20:58] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok boot it up and get internet on it
[20:58] <Beam_Inn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/556894/tlp-dont-change-cpu-frequency
[20:58] <zubuntu> EriC^^: should i choose Try Ubuntu?
[20:58] <Beam_Inn> this guide is about protecting your CPU from Ubuntu, right?
[20:59] <EriC^^> zubuntu: yea
[20:59] <zubuntu> k
[21:00] <Krennic> i like lubuntu
[21:00] <zubuntu> EriC^^: done
[21:00] <EriC^^> zubuntu: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:01] <EriC^^> zubuntu: paste the link it gives you here
[21:02] <zubuntu> i cant paste
[21:02] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: slowing down your cpu is not the answer
[21:02] <zubuntu> i am using another pc now
[21:02] <EriC^^> zubuntu: type the last 4 letters
[21:02] <SapientLion> Hello! While using Code::Blocks, i am not able to successfully run the debugger. It outputs the following message: warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted.
[21:02] <EriC^^> zubuntu: whatever is after termbin.com/
[21:02] <zubuntu> ok
[21:03] <zubuntu> https://termbin.com/t5gv
[21:04] <EriC^^> zubuntu: type "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda3"
[21:04] <Piraty> I recently upgrade kubuntu to 19.04. what happens now is that my user account's taskbar gets reordered (icons move from right to left, next to app menu button) . it seems it's not remembering the position i put them in. Any idea?
[21:04] <zubuntu> EriC^^: fsck from util-linux 2.33.1
[21:04] <EriC^^> Piraty: are the permissions all right in your home dir?
[21:05] <Piraty> i didn't find any plasma logs in $HOME, and i don't suspect them in /var/log (or journalctl)
[21:05] <Piraty> EriC^^: nice one, lemme check
[21:05] <wcarson> Bashing-om: thanks again, that was it. all good now!
[21:05] <zubuntu> e2fsck 1.44.6 (5-mar-2019)
[21:05] <Bashing-om> wcarson: :))
[21:05] <EriC^^> zubuntu: if it went well, type "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt"
[21:05] <zubuntu> /dev/sda3: clean, 337627/3276800 files, 877... block
[21:05] <zubuntu> s
[21:06] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i did last command and didnt return anything
[21:06] <Beam_Inn> leftyfb, maybe it is maybe it isn't. if i slow it down 10% I'll know
[21:06] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok type "ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:06] <zubuntu> after this
[21:06] <leftyfb> Beam_Inn: did you read the article I gave you?
[21:07] <Beam_Inn> yes.
[21:07] <SapientLion> Hello! While using Code::Blocks on Ubuntu 18.04, i am not able to successfully run the debugger. It outputs: "warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted". Is there any solution to this problem?
[21:08] <zubuntu> EriC^^: nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin" port 9999: Temporary failure in name resolution
[21:08] <Beam_Inn> man 3 hours i've been trying to move files from point a to point b
[21:08] <Beam_Inn> what century are we in lol.  i should use cloud
[21:08] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you forgot to put .com i think
[21:08] <zubuntu> sorry
[21:09] <Beam_Inn> here's the problem, leftyfb ....
[21:09] <Beam_Inn> obviously hdd1->hdd1 transers are much faster.
[21:09] <zubuntu> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/rlpb
[21:10] <Beam_Inn> but just to see what would happen, I did three hdd1 -> hdd1 file transfers and had the same result
[21:10] <Beam_Inn> usb is out of the equation.
[21:10] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok that looks good
[21:10] <zubuntu> can i remove usb key and reboot?
[21:10] <EriC^^> zubuntu: reboot first, then remove the usb
[21:10] <zubuntu> ok
[21:11] <Beam_Inn> after 7 copy operations, the fan is at max speed, the cpu is super hot
[21:11] <Beam_Inn_> maybe the CPU itself isn't the problem, but some aspect of the system itself is telling the computer to run faster than it safely can
[21:12] <Beam_Inn_> i broke two computers this year doing the same thing: transfering files
[21:12] <zubuntu> EriC^^: still same
[21:12] <Piraty> Beam_Inn_: what's the issue? using rsync? using compression/encryption?
[21:12] <Beam_Inn_> nope.  justt copying pics and videos on a less-than-perfect pc
[21:12] <zubuntu> /dev/sda3: clean ....
[21:13] <EriC^^> zubuntu: that one line is normal
[21:13] <Beam_Inn_> i mean, the hardware is old, you know?
[21:13] <EriC^^> any orphaned nodes stuff?
[21:13] <zubuntu> i cant get on login screen
[21:13] <zubuntu> no orphaned stuff anymore
[21:13] <zubuntu> how can i login normally?
[21:13] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok, and it's just once right, it doesnt spam that over and over?
[21:13] <zubuntu> EriC^^: it spams
[21:13] <zubuntu> not once unfortunately
[21:14] <EriC^^> zubuntu: that's not right
[21:15] <zubuntu> agree
[21:16] <EriC^^> zubuntu: go to grub again
[21:16] <zubuntu> ok
[21:16] <EriC^^> press 'e' and remove quiet splash and type in 'fastboot'
[21:17] <EriC^^> it should skip the fsck this one time
[21:17] <zubuntu> i will try
[21:17] <EriC^^> then press f10 to boot
[21:17] <zubuntu> now it spams [OK] lines
[21:18] <conr> how can you find a list of all version names of a package in a PPA? I'm trying to install apache2 2.4.6 but can't find the exact version name of it.
[21:18] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok, what was the last thing it wrote
[21:18] <zubuntu> wait
[21:18] <zubuntu> i will try to take picture
[21:19] <EriC^^> conr: you could use this if you want https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool
[21:19] <SapientLion> Hello! While using Code::Blocks on Ubuntu 18.04, i am not able to successfully run the debugger. It outputs: "warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted". Is there any solution to this problem?
[21:19] <zubuntu> starting update UTMP
[21:19] <zubuntu> System runlevel changes OK
[21:19] <conr> EriC^^: thanks, there's not a raw command to do it?
[21:19] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok try pressing alt+f2
[21:19] <zubuntu> started update UTMP
[21:20] <zubuntu> alt f2 doesnt response
[21:20] <EriC^^> conr: not really, you'd have to parse through the dpkg data
[21:20] <EriC^^> conr: actually, try apt-cache search apache
[21:20] <EriC^^> that should list the stuff
[21:23] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try ctrl+alt+f4
[21:23] <zubuntu> EriC^^: it keeps flashing
[21:23] <conr> EriC^^: search only gives me the apache2
[21:23] <EriC^^> hmm ctrl+alt+f7?
[21:23] <conr> it doesn't give me each version name
[21:24] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you mean there's just a blinking cursor?
[21:24] <zubuntu> EriC^^: f7 doesnt response just blank black screen
[21:24] <EriC^^> conr: try running apt-cache show <package> it should give more info, and apt-cache policy <package> should show the source
[21:24] <zubuntu> EriC^^: when i type ctrl alt f7 i see cursor and i can move it but OK screen keeps spamming
[21:25] <EriC^^> conr: ah, try "apt search apache" it shows the version numbers
[21:25] <SapientLion> Hello! While using Code::Blocks on Ubuntu 18.04, i am not able to successfully run the debugger. It outputs: "warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted". Is there any solution to this problem?
[21:26] <conr> EriC^^: does it show older versions?
[21:26] <conr> i know the version number i just need the exact name to apt-get install apache2=????
[21:26] <EriC^^> yeah i think it should show both
[21:27] <EriC^^> conr: ^
[21:28] <hggdh> SapientLion: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29219666/codeblocks-warning-gdb-failed-to-set-controlling-terminal-operation-not-p
[21:30] <Beam_Inn_> YEAH!  that thread worked.
[21:30] <SapientLion> hggdh: i've seen that discussion before. It didn't help.
[21:30] <conr> EriC^^: it only shows the lastest
[21:30] <zubuntu> EriC^^: it seems i have to fresh install ubuntu
[21:30] <conr> latest
[21:31] <SapientLion> Problem is, debugger stops at this error and it cannot proceed any further
[21:31] <EriC^^> zubuntu: if it's still a fresh install i'd just do that instead
[21:31] <zubuntu> EriC^^: no
[21:31] <zubuntu> it was 1 year old OS
[21:31] <EriC^^> oh
[21:31] <SapientLion> So it is impossible to ignore this message
[21:32] <zubuntu> but i can revover documents
[21:32] <zubuntu> sda3
[21:32] <zubuntu> recover
[21:32] <EriC^^> zubuntu: try going to grub again
[21:32] <EriC^^> this time press on advanced > on the older kernel press "e"
[21:33] <zubuntu> ok
[21:33] <gambl0re> my computer is showing 2hours remaining with 18% battery life. how accurate is that?
[21:33] <zubuntu> but older kernel also damaged i guess
[21:33] <gambl0re> anything below 15% is it recommended to start charging to prevent damage to battery?
[21:34] <EriC^^> and try removing "quiet splash" and put instead "verbose ignore_loglevel systemd.unit=multi-user.target"
[21:34] <zubuntu> EriC^^:  ok i chose 4.15.0-47 generic
[21:34] <Piraty> i chmod /home/user to 700, but i sshd cannot cd into it???
[21:34] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok
[21:34] <EriC^^> put the above instead of quiet splash then do
[21:34] <Piraty> $HOME has drwx------
[21:35] <EriC^^> Piraty: type "stat -c %u $HOME"
[21:35] <Beam_Inn_> it's gonna take like 51 minutes to finish a file transfer that would have finished in 5 minutes without the cpu restriction, but the max-frequency reduction at least prevented the heating problem
[21:35] <Piraty> EriC^^: as which user?
[21:35] <EriC^^> Piraty: your home user
[21:36] <Piraty> no permission
[21:36] <Beam_Inn_> @ leftyfb
[21:36] <Piraty> (and yes, i chown user:user /home/user already)
[21:36] <EriC^^> Piraty: ok, so what are the perms of /home
[21:36] <EriC^^> ls -ld /home
[21:36] <zubuntu> EriC^^: trying to login to tty1
[21:37] <EriC^^> zubuntu: ok
[21:37] <zubuntu> vbocdrv module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[21:37] <Piraty> EriC^^: drwx------   5 root root       4096 Feb  2 22:59 home
[21:38] <zubuntu> vbocpci: IOMMU not found (not registered)
[21:38] <zubuntu> UFW BLOCK....
[21:38] <zubuntu> waiting for something i guess
[21:39] <zubuntu> EriC^^: will it continue long time? it goes slow
[21:39] <zubuntu> ah wait
[21:39] <EriC^^> Piraty: yeah thats not good
[21:39] <zubuntu> random: crng init done
[21:40] <EriC^^> Piraty: chmod 755 /home
[21:40] <zubuntu> random: 7 urandm warnings missed due to ratelimiting
[21:40] <zubuntu> again UFW BLOCK..
[21:40] <Piraty> EriC^^: ah yes, thanks :D
[21:40] <EriC^^> zubuntu: is this on a vm?
[21:40] <EriC^^> Piraty: np :D
[21:41] <zubuntu> EriC^^: no it is on sda3
[21:41] <EriC^^> oh right
[21:41] <zubuntu> i dont know why it mentions about vbox..
[21:41] <zubuntu> i installed XP on vbox
[21:41] <EriC^^> i think that's not important at all
[21:42] <zubuntu> ok
[21:42] <EriC^^> what is it hanging on right now
[21:42] <Piraty> EriC^^: seems i was chmodding in the wrong place.
[21:42] <zubuntu> UFW BLOCK counting something i dont understand
[21:42] <zubuntu> slow going
[21:43] <thaurwylth> These two probably imply that these things are well Linux compatible, right? (And Ubuntu compatible.) https://support.bulletvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004464469-How-to-Set-up-BulletVPN-PPTP-Manually-on-Ubuntu-Linux    https://support.bulletvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004463909-How-to-Set-up-BulletVPN-OpenVPN-Manually-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[21:43] <EriC^^> zubuntu: UFW is the firewall
[21:43] <zubuntu> ah i see
[21:44] <zubuntu> EriC^^: what is it doing now?
[21:44] <EriC^^> zubuntu: hmm it should have ended up with a login prompt, you put systemd.unit=multi-user.... right
[21:44] <thaurwylth> Although isn't that Unity view for the screenshorts a bit old?
[21:44] <zubuntu> i have no clue
[21:44] <zubuntu> yes i did
[21:47] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i have no idea, is it still counting stuff?
[21:47] <zubuntu> yes
[21:47] <zubuntu> wlp3s0 associated
[21:49] <EriC^^> i wonder if systemd is screwed up somehow
[21:49] <zubuntu> maybe
[21:49] <zubuntu> i better fresh install after i recover documents
[21:50] <EriC^^> yeah, i'd go that route too
[21:50] <zubuntu> i really wonder why it did this after i updagted
[21:50] <EriC^^> same here
[21:51] <claireclaire> Hello! I keep getting a kernel panic whenever my hard drive goes through long periods of write activity, but the SMART data for the drive seems OK. I've tried multiple reformats, but nothing seems to help.
[21:51] <claireclaire> https://photos.app.goo.gl/6Y6NshzQbfa6TFrA6
[21:52] <zubuntu> i guess it is counting hardware
[21:53] <EriC^^> zubuntu: the associated stuff is the wireless connecting, ufw block sounds like it has some ports blocked
[21:53] <EriC^^> which numbers does it say after ufw block
[21:53] <EriC^^> claireclaire: is it an ssd or something you could maybe update the firmware of?
[21:53] <zubuntu> PROTO=2
[21:54] <claireclaire> it's an HDD, but it's brand new from western digital
[21:54] <zubuntu> (try 1/3)
[21:54] <claireclaire> 2tb HDD with ext4 and GPT
[21:54] <zubuntu> i feel it is doing same things
[21:54] <zubuntu> again wlp3s0
[21:54] <EriC^^> claireclaire: can you upload it in text format? would make it easier to google for similar stuff
[21:55] <claireclaire> it's a kernel panic, so I'm not sure if a log was made
[21:55] <EriC^^> claireclaire: you could get the info from /var/log/syslog
[21:55] <thaurwylth> Hmmm, some more questions. This time about CyberGhost. 'A: The app currently supports Debian, Ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu 18.04 and Fedora 29' Later on it is said there are two dependencies, Python 3 package and the OpenVPN daemon package. If those two are present on a different version of distribution, will there still be some problems running CyberGhost on non 16.04 non 18.04 Ubuntu? I understand this is a very wide question. But ...
[21:55] <EriC^^> ah
[21:55] <thaurwylth> ... please interpret it in a more restricted manner, if it makes answering easier. But any concise answer is much appreciated.
[21:57] <zubuntu> i am bored
[21:57] <thaurwylth> Or, let's say, how does package management between different releases of Ubuntu work in general? Will all the supported alive ones have the same versions of software inside a named package?
[21:58] <claireclaire> I did have the line oops=panic in my kernel config, so let me see if this helps
[21:58] <zubuntu> brb
[21:58] <zubuntu> smoke
[22:00] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i pressed a key by mistake and it stopped and it brouight me to tty2 terminakl to login then it continues again counting UFW ...
[22:00] <zubuntu> actually it doesnt stop it spams i like others i guess but in slow motion
[22:01] <claireclaire> I get a lot of suggestions that it's a PSU issue
[22:02] <EriC^^> claireclaire: maybe the guys in ##hardware get shed some light on the issue, if nobody here knows
[22:02] <EriC^^> *can
[22:03] <ducasse> thaurwylth:  if cyberghost is not in the ubuntu repos it is not supported by us, talk to the provider. packages with the  same name can be different versions between releases
[22:06] <thaurwylth> Yeah, sorry, I was a bit unclear there. I didn't intend that to be a CyberGhost support question. I was just trying to figure out, for my own understanding, whether it would be reasonable to get it to run on 18.10 (or 19.04). OK, now I learned that python3 and openvpn may differ from 18.04.
[22:07] <thaurwylth> Luckily it's cheap for trial, so I might as well just test it out tomorrow.
[22:19] <zubuntu> EriC^^: thank you for your helps but i am bored. i will fresh install yesterday
[22:20] <zubuntu> do u recommend 19.04 or 18.04 lts?
[22:23] <tatertotz> zubuntu ever heard of eeny, meeny,miny,moe?
[22:25] <zubuntu> tatertotz: what?
[22:26] <tatertotz> nevermind
[22:27] <EriC^^> zubuntu: 18.04
[22:27] <EriC^^> cant go wrong with lts
[22:27] <tatertotz> is that a challenge?
[22:27] <tatertotz> j/k
[22:29] <zubuntu> tatertotz: are u a trolling bot? :p
[22:29] <zubuntu> EriC^^: thx
[22:34] <zubuntu> ok gotta go
[22:34] <zubuntu> good nite
[22:43] <scientes> why do I have boltd running when I have never owned a thunderbolt device?
[23:23] <gewji_> cpu 121%
[23:23] <gewji_> i guess you were right.  underclocking the cpu doesn' help because the system ignores it
[23:24] <gewji_> there has to be a way to tell linux to not run my cpu at 120+%
[23:24] <leftyfb> !who | gewji_
[23:25] <gewji_> I don't know who I should port this to.  I'm going to post it on some forums and hope someone responds before my pc's heart explodes.
[23:26] <fmulti> How can I completely remove telnet from 18.04? I need to follow this https://www.stigviewer.com/stig/canonical_ubuntu_16.04_lts/2018-07-18/finding/V-75797
[23:27] <fmulti> if i do "apt list telnetd", it says its there... but if I do "apt-get remove telnetd" it says its not installed
[23:28] <fmulti> same thing with "nis"
[23:30] <genii> fmulti: What does apt-cache policy telnetd ..say on the "Installed:" line?
[23:30] <fmulti> genii: Installed: (none)
[23:30] <genii> Then it's not installed
[23:31] <fmulti> i am not sure that will satisfy a checkbox-checker
[23:32] <leftyfb> fmulti: telnetd has never been installed by default
[23:33] <fmulti> ok
[23:33] <genii> fmulti: What does: apt list --installed  telnetd   ...tell you?
[23:33] <leftyfb> genii: they already answered that
[23:36] <fmulti> I guess I can try to use both the apt cache and apt list as proof
[23:36] <fmulti> but most of these dudes who check this stuff arent technical
[23:36] <leftyfb> fmulti: if you're talking about checkbox for certification, I used to be "one of those dudes"
[23:37] <fmulti> leftyfb: then you are a rare breed lol
[23:37] <fmulti> most of these people ive dealth with are afraid of linux
[23:37] <fmulti> oh god hacker OS!!!
[23:37] <fmulti> COMMAND LINE?!?!
[23:38] <leftyfb> fmulti: I mean, I used to certify hardware for Canonical. Part of the process was running the checkbox suite
[23:38] <fmulti> i am talking about different certification unfortunately
[23:39] <fmulti> people who love their STIGs
[23:39] <fmulti> which doesnt even exist for 18.04, but they will not care
[23:39] <leftyfb> Canonical does some of that now as well
[23:40] <fmulti> tell them to put out an automated STIG pls for 18.04
[23:40] <fmulti> :'(
[23:40] <fmulti> RHEL has it as an option during install
[23:40] <leftyfb> it takes a while for them to get it all worked out
[23:40] <fmulti> i am aware lol
[23:40] <leftyfb> I think 16.04 took about a year
[23:41] <fmulti> at my prior employer, my department had the power to say "Use CentOS/RHEL or get lost"... here, it is the opposite "We are using Ubuntu, make it work thx"
[23:42] <leftyfb> fmulti: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/09/26/canonicals-security-certifications
[23:44] <leftyfb> fmulti: I'm sure 18.04 is being worked on. It'll just take some time. Though I'd imagine not as long as 16.04 did.
[23:45] <fmulti> i am sure as well
[23:45] <fmulti> doesnt help me when i am handed an 18.04 system though lol
[23:46] <leftyfb> Doesn't make sense for them to assume an OS released 7 months ago would be certified to that level.
[23:46] <leftyfb> sorry, I guess 13 months ago
[23:47] <fmulti> the people who hand me these systems do not have the slightest of care about that
[23:50] <herouxma> upgrading my system from 14.04, please everyone sending me good vibs lol
[23:50] <herouxma> Bye Compiz with 4 desktops I guess
[23:51] <fmulti> leftyfb: https://www.stigviewer.com/stig/canonical_ubuntu_16.04_lts/2018-07-18/finding/V-80957 any idea on this one?
[23:51] <herouxma> Any advices other than backup?
[23:52] <fmulti> it doesnt like the new file i created with the "fix text"
[23:54] <herouxma> Is there some people who actually upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04? Worth it or better to start from Scratch?
[23:56] <mouses> herouxma: I always advise starting from scratch - it's pretty trivial to export a list of packages and backup home directory data
[23:59] <herouxma> Thanks mouses, last time from 12.04 to 14.04, did that
[23:59] <herouxma> Will do that, good point