[00:21] /home/stoned/.local/share/akonadi/ is taking 6gb of space! What is this directory and can I remove it? [00:23] It could be because I isntalled kmail and it was synced to gmail [00:23] I don't use kmail anymore [00:32] stoned: something something KDE. I'd look in it before wiping it. Maybe run ncdu on it. It's apparently the user framework(settings?) for KDE [01:03] alright so I've set up this ssh thing on one computer [01:04] but have realized when I try to ssh to my server from another computer, I'm given a "permission denied (publickey)" [01:04] and idk how to access the file on my windows machine to copy it over to my other computer [01:04] looks like the file is hidden and I'm not sure how to directly access ubuntu on windows' filesystem [01:13] if I want to apt source openocd from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openocd/0.10.0-1build1 - can I just wget one of those files, or should I add artful repo ? [01:17] !17.10 | CarlFK [01:17] CarlFK: Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) was the 27th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 19th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2018-July/004483.html [01:19] Bashing-om: is openocd available in something supported? [01:20] CarlFK: What is not suitable with the version in the repo ? [01:20] !info openocd bionic [01:20] openocd (source: openocd): Open on-chip JTAG debug solution for ARM and MIPS systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.10.0-4 (bionic), package size 2094 kB, installed size 5888 kB [01:21] Bashing-om: I need a newer version, so looking at either building from git, or trying to back port the package [01:22] the box I am installing on will do 2 things: run that and jenkins. if I break it, I'll reinstall the OS and try something else [01:23] CarlFK: disco (19.04) >> 0.10.0-5: . [01:24] right - so back to: how do I apt source that? [01:25] oh, I was looking down a level.. found em: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openocd/ [01:26] CarlFK: CarlFK Tread careful here --- ' apt depends openocd ' says there be dragons here :D [01:26] So I upgraded from 18.04, 18.10, then 19.04 today, and now I cannot resolve any domains. I can connect to external IPs [01:26] Did kvpm fall out of the packages in Disco? [01:26] but DNS isn't being resolved anymore [01:26] Bashing-om: i 1/2 expect it to break everything [01:27] CarlFK: Uh Huh - "Depends: libc6 " makes me shiver :) [01:27] yeah - bumped into that once already and gave up [01:34] Bashing-om: better than depending on libc5. [01:35] hey.. isn't this what containers help with? [01:38] that's how I solved the problem. For me at least. My colleagues eyes tend to glaze over when I try to explain docker to them. :P [01:41] So I upgraded from 18.04, 18.10, then 19.04 today, and now I cannot resolve any domains. I can connect to external IPs, but DNS is not resolving anything, any help? [01:57] ola [01:57] hello === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [02:28] hi [02:29] need help [02:31] !ask | apurva [02:31] apurva: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience === mint__ is now known as jr_ [02:32] hello [02:32] i need help [02:33] i m using ppermin os 9 is there any official channel [02:33] apurva: One second [02:34] !alis | apu [02:34] apu: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [02:34] Pugabyte_: No [02:34] There's a forum [02:34] apurva: not Pugabyte_ [02:34] apurva: https://forum.peppermintos.com/ [02:34] ok [03:11] hi! whats the easiest way to allow chrome to display output of a video camera [03:11] without creating files [03:11] that is streaming? [03:12] transhumanist: depends on the format of said video files, but this is not really a ubuntu question [03:13] transhumanist: in theory you should be able to just plug in the camera, browse it's filesystem, and drag a video file right into chrome (or use chrome's open file dialogue to select a file from the mounted camera device) [03:13] sorry I should have added I need it to have a port on the local ip address [03:14] trying to pipe it through yolo [03:14] (requires like a http://localhost:8081 cant get it working with "motion" [03:30] <[n0mad]> transhumanist: the port is configurable in /etc/motion/motion.conf [03:32] [n0mad], yeah it seems to work it starts it then it starts dumping .jpgs to hard drive but when I try to goto http://:8081 it fails to show [03:33] <[n0mad]> and 8081 is the port configured? there's 2 ports, one for admin and one for stream [03:33] <[n0mad]> both should show something though [03:33] <[n0mad]> i never had to do anything special to get mine to work [03:34] <[n0mad]> transhumanist: there's also a stream_localhost....if it's on then you can only see it on localhost [03:39] Can anyone help me with this error. Every time I try to play a video using the Videos app, I get an error saying: "No valid frames decoded before end of stream." [03:40] Meanwhile the same video plays perfectly when I drag it into Chrome browser. [03:40] kllkl [03:41] hi [03:41] hi [03:41] ok [03:45] figured it out thanks [n0mad] === sammy1212 is now known as sammydean [04:22] hello [04:35] p [04:36] p [04:36] hai [04:36] help m!!! [04:36] ❤ [04:51] is tere a ubuntu 19 in 32 bit? [04:53] bryanroderyck: Nope. [04:57] bryanroderyck: you can try out lubuntu 18.04 32bit of you want [04:58] only for 18.04 is it? [04:58] were i can find it? [04:59] bryanroderyck: https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-released/ [05:05] [05:05] i am back [05:07] bryanroderyck: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ - if you search for "i386" there, you can see which Ubuntu flavors still got a 32-bit image on which release, and start a torrent download by clicking on the respective link. [05:16] hai [05:17] link instahack yang masih active ada ? [05:17] tolong dong [05:17] !english | mas27 [05:17] mas27: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [05:18] can you help me ? [05:18] mas27: ask your ubuntu question please [05:18] im just newbee in here [05:18] dont jugde me [05:19] l/disconnect [05:24] krytarik : the ubuntu torrent link is broken are there other way to get to te torrent? === mantas is now known as MMANTASS [05:26] bryanroderyck: the link works fine [05:29] https://imgur.com/a/4UsHgc0 [05:31] bryanroderyck: is your system up to date? did you play with firefox settings? firewall or router blocking? [05:32] no -- not really .. [05:32] hi [05:33] bryanroderyck: lsb_release -a && uname -a && apt-cache policy firefox in a pastebin please? [05:35] give me link git clone for hack instagram [05:35] please [05:35] dev1ce: this is the ubuntu support channel here only ubuntu questions please [05:35] bryanroderyck: Well, some addon is forcing that page to HTTPS - which it doesn't support. [05:36] lotuspsychje : opss oke man [05:37] really? no https? [05:37] lame [05:37] jcotton : ? [05:38] jcotton: please leave comments like that out of support [05:39] i stop the http everywhere addon but still dont work...what can be done please? [05:41] bryanroderyck: can you pastebin the info i asked? [05:41] can you tell me w [05:41] sorry [05:42] broken keyboard ..wich part of the command to be used? [05:43] bryanroderyck: lsb_release -a && uname -a && apt-cache policy firefox [05:45] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xqjgjNRmyp/ [05:46] bryanroderyck: ok thank you, and looks all good, now try what krytarik suggested and disable possible addons block, then restart firefox [05:46] y [05:46] ok [05:47] bryanroderyck: wich lubuntu version do you want? [05:49] i want to use 18.04 [05:50] bryanroderyck: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/lubuntu-18.04-desktop-i386.iso === imsurit_ofc1 is now known as imsurit_ofc [05:57] thanks ...but are there any ubuntu 18 in 32 bit...actually i upgrade 16.04 to 18.04 over the terminal but i still have errors that why im looking for ubuntu [06:03] are there any ubuntu 18.04 in 32 bit? [06:03] not lubuntu [06:05] you have a 32bit machine in 2019? [06:05] i use an old laptop [06:06] i3 core [06:55] can you help me , somebody ? [06:55] ask your question dev1ce [06:56] somebody will answer if they can [06:56] can you hacking ? [06:56] uhh [06:57] no [06:57] robirc : can you hack my instagram xlove ? [06:58] !ot | dev1ce [06:58] no sorry [06:58] dev1ce: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [06:58] robirc : ok thanks man , i apreciate [07:00] exit [07:00] ok..... [07:27] hey, guys, I have a ubuntu 16.04 in a virtual machine via virtualbox, the host is a windows 10, the network configure two card, one is nat, one is bridged-network, the problem is the bridged-network can not get ip address, do you know why? [07:27] I search on the internet, there is no working answer. === dabrain34 is now known as Guest4612 [08:11] ls [08:11] tree [08:11] ps aux [08:11] il try it in your terminal not in irc [08:12] fuck\ [08:12] !language [08:12] Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [08:12] what is irc [08:12] this chat [08:12] lol [08:12] this so sexy [08:13] i am like hackers now [08:13] Hey all [08:13] cfhowlett where are you from [08:14] when I'm using alsa in a DAW app, I can't hear anything from any other app [08:14] hi mia [08:14] alsa is sort of taking the control of my audio interface [08:14] how can I stop this behavior [08:14] il chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please. this is ubuntu support only [08:14] ok sorry [08:14] il: do you have an ubuntu question? [08:14] how can change my dm [08:15] il: just install a new one, and you will be prompted which one to use [08:16] in debian i change /etc/X11/default-display-manager and this works but in kubuntu its dont do any thing [08:16] i had to remove and re install dms to change my dm [08:16] its stupid [08:17] il are you using debian? [08:17] no [08:17] i have kubuntu [08:17] a distro based on ubuntu [08:18] il: use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ' to change [08:18] il logout. click on the gear to select your dm login [08:18] or this ^^^ [08:18] the gear changes de, not dm [08:20] pashmam , thanks so much , its work :}}}}} [08:20] Good Morning. I have a problem: I have an ubuntu server with the IP 87.118.125.214 with nginx installed. I am trying to point the domain globepostalservice-posta-nazionale.com to this IP from yesterday. I Put tail -f in all nginx log files from nginx and try to reach the domain with the browser. No requests arrived. I Just would like to understand if it is a my server configuration problem(maybe I need to configure bind?) o [08:20] r is it a DNS propagation problem or what? [08:22] zull perhaps #ubuntu-server would be better? [08:23] zull: there's no dns a record for globepostalservice-posta-nazionale.com that i can find [08:23] ducasse what does it means? [08:24] and what to do? [08:24] zull: nothing, there isn't any. fix this on your dns server [08:25] then isn't it a problem of my side? I mean my ubuntu server? [08:26] zull: it's not something you need to fix on ubuntu, no. [08:26] no, it's not a problem with the web server [08:26] Can't find anythişng anywhere :( [08:26] So channel, I'm trying to use my ubuntu for music production [08:26] the problem is that when alsa is active in my DAW application, I can't hear any system sounds [08:26] onlşy sound coming from my DAW is hearable [08:26] everything else goes silent [08:26] #opensourcemusic mia [08:27] in Windows, there was a checkbox in my soundcard, like "take exclusive control" [08:27] or possibly #ubuntustudio or your DAW's support options [08:27] thanks a lot ducasse [08:27] so that apps could take exclusive control of the audio interface [08:27] zull: try ##networking [08:28] i try to install bridge-utils ia32-libs-multiarch packages but that doesnt exist [08:28] mia: try #ubuntustudio [08:28] cfhowlett, this is not a daw specific question actually [08:28] more of a general question [08:28] just tried thanks ducasse [08:28] is there any replacement on the system for these packages? [08:29] spinningCat: your ubuntu version, please? [08:29] 18.04 [08:29] and describe why you're trying to install these packages - are you following some how.to? [08:30] yes i try to initialize kvm [08:30] https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator-acceleration?utm_source=android-studio#vm-linux [08:30] bridge-utils exists on ubuntu 18.04 lts [08:32] the third sentence of this how-to you just linked to says "For Ubuntu systems, see Ubuntu KVM Installation -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation" [08:33] spinningCat: ^ and this ubuntu specific how-to doe snot mention "ia32-libs-multiarch" [08:33] so android how to is out of date then [08:34] maybe, or maybe it is trying to be generic. different instructions may apply to different linux distros. [08:36] the last line on the developer.android.com how-to does indeed seem to be ubuntu specific and no longer valid on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. [08:36] i got this adduser: The group `libvirtd' does not exist. [08:37] i installed dev package [08:38] the instructions given for 18.10 ("Cosmic") should also apply to Ubuntu 18.04 [08:38] damn there is libvirt and libvirtd [08:39] which one is correct? [08:39] https://askubuntu.com/questions/930491/group-libvirtd-does-not-exist-while-installing-qemu-kvm [08:39] spinningCat: where do you see both "libvirt" and "libvirtd"? [08:40] libvirtd does not exist it seems whereas libvirt exist. Tutorial mention libvirtd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation [08:41] i didnt see both in same place i am just confused [08:41] the instructions given for 18.10 ("Cosmic") should also apply to Ubuntu 18.04 [08:41] this Cat is spinning too much, read slowly. [08:42] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation#Add_Users_to_Groups -> Cosmic (18.10) -> "The group name is changed to libvirt: " [08:43] okay same apply to 18.04 i assume [08:43] okay then i am all set [08:47] I can seem to find jackaudio package in software center [08:47] am I missing something? [08:47] jack2 is also missing from apt-get [08:47] mia, what ubuntu version? [08:47] 18.04 [08:48] mia, try again. apt search jack shows it just fine for me [08:49] make sure universe is enabled [08:50] cfhowlett, E: Unable to locate package jack2 [08:50] sudo apt install jack2 [08:50] this is the install command that I'm using [08:50] what about 'jack'? [08:51] it's an old version [08:52] oh looks like the package name is jackd2 [08:52] hmmm [08:52] jackd2 [08:52] yes, thanks! [08:52] it was used to be jack2 [08:52] weird [08:52] maybe I misremember [08:52] Anyway, thank you! [08:52] I'll try this now [08:54] mia: 'apt search --names-only ^jack' will list that package names that start with 'jack' [09:01] 'Morning folks [09:02] hello === Guest4612 is now known as dabrain34 [09:05] when i'm starting xchat i'm always getting: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . [09:06] so i have to run the command [09:06] but can I automate this in a way ? [09:06] !xchat | dabrain34 [09:06] dabrain34: xchat and xchat-gnome are old IRC clients which are not actively maintained outside of Ubuntu/Debian. Some versions of Ubuntu do not include them. Users of 14.04 onwards should strongly consider using hexchat instead, which has good upstream support and is widely recommended by the IRC community over xchat and xchat-gnome. [09:08] dabrain34, see your hexchat channel settings for autologin [09:26] there is no .bash_profile in my system [09:28] there's .profile by default. Bash will use that if .bash_profile doesn't exist [09:29] eand no .bashrc [09:29] .profile is empty [09:29] is it a problem? [09:30] spinningCat: is there something in /etc/skel [09:30] did you create a user using the useradd command perhaps? [09:31] and that file's owner is root wth [09:31] i am not sure geirha [09:32] EriC^^, example.desktop there is [09:32] Hi! I have a question that I am seeking some input on. If I want to use Ubuntu with the Xfce DE should I use Xubuntu straight away or go with a Ubuntu install and then just install xfce? I am looking for the smallest (least bloat) and most stable installation. Security is also a major concern, but I assume won't be much different. [09:32] EriC^^, do you need content of example.desktop [09:32] spinningCat: ls -la /etc/skel ~/ [09:33] ls doesn't display files starting with . by default. You need to give it -a or -A for that [09:33] Swizzy: if you like a flavor, its based to install the flavor itself, aka xubuntu [09:34] But Flavor is more than just the DE if I am not mistaking? :s [09:34] Swizzy: otherwise you have an ubuntu-desktop install (more heavy) with a xubuntu-desktop ontop [09:34] So far I have been using Xubuntu and it was working very well, just curious for other options [09:34] Swizzy: well it depends what your going to use as base? [09:35] Ubuntu LTS [09:35] If you mean that [09:35] there is no file with .bashrc or .bash_profile and .profile is empty [09:35] Swizzy: cause you can also install lubuntu for example, then test a xubuntu-desktop ontop of it === Ard1t2 is now known as Ard1t [09:35] and .profile brelongs to root [09:36] spinningCat: is this your system, and are you sure it's even Ubuntu? [09:36] Swizzy: if you choose ubuntu-desktop (with gnome3) system will feel more heavy, needs more ram etc [09:36] Is it logged somewhere when a service is enabled/disabled in systemd? [09:36] Right but when I replace Gnome3 with Xfce that changes? [09:37] Xubuntu comes with a lot of software pre installed that I dont necessarily want or need, so I am thinking that a minimal Ubuntu install with the network iso [09:37] Swizzy: nothing can beat a clean flavor install right [09:37] and then xfce DE on top of it would be better than xubuntu? Since Xubuntu doesn't offer an option to just get the basics [09:37] geirha, ofc it is ubuntu [09:37] Swizzy: we often reccomend trying a desktop ontop as a test, if you like it= install the full flavor [09:38] ？ [09:39] Hi, some users frequently mention "distribution XXX is the most popular because it's the first on distrowatch.com"! [09:39] Is there any URL that I can point them to, that explains that "distrowatch page hits" are completely unrelated to "actual percentage of user base"? [09:39] hey alkisg tnx again for the last help, my wishlist bug got marked fix released [09:40] lotuspsychje: great man! :) [09:40] Is it logged somewhere when a service is enabled/disabled in systemd? [09:40] spinningCat: ok, well an ubuntu install will contain at least a .bashrc and .profile in /etc/skel, so you should try to figure out how you managed to delete those [09:40] !systemd | qwebirc38825 start here [09:40] qwebirc38825 start here: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units [09:40] i didnt delete anything [09:41] dpkg -L bash | grep /etc/skel [09:41] alkisg: Might be a better topic for #ubuntu-offtopic [09:41] alkisg: we have this stats page, but not really for different Os https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics [09:41] jeremy31: thanks; trying there [09:42] lotuspsychje: does that have only percentages? Or does it have real numbers too? [09:42] Thanks, I already went through these... But as it just creates a symlink, I'm not sure if it also logs this somewhere. [09:42] when and maybe even who set a service to disabled [09:42] Some debian-based distros have popcon; but it's not enabled by default so it's rather unreliable [09:42] spinningCat: well something has ... [09:43] alkisg: think you can deepseek into ubuntu-report and popularity-contest [09:43] I think popularity-contest only has about 1% of the actual user base [09:43] * alkisg searches for ubuntu-report... [09:50] hi! how can I check where a can device is connected (what port) [09:51] When I run dmesg | grep can I get this: [09:51] [ 285.459312] can: controller area network core (rev 20170425 abi 9) [09:51] [ 285.464222] can: raw protocol (rev 20170425) [09:51] SleepyTurtle: what kind of device? [09:51] A controller [09:52] netstat --listen if your'e talking about a network port [09:52] alkisg: i think exact stats will be hard too, as ubuntu-report the user also got the choice of opt-in/out [09:52] alkisg: in #ubuntu-server we heared yesterday, popcon is also installed by default, but not enabled by default [09:53] lotuspsychje: yeah it would be nice if distros/mirrors/etc posted actual download stats, from their repositories. It would make things much more easily comparable. [09:53] TimeDoctor: I don't understand what that command does. It doesn't show any CAN devices though [09:53] SleepyTurtle: I don't know what a CAN device is [09:53] SleepyTurtle: or what kind of controller your'e talking about, lots of things are called controllers [09:53] alkisg: my guess is, ubuntu statistics/usage is way bigger then what any stat say [09:53] TimeDoctor: a device connected via Controller Area Network [09:54] TimeDoctor: a motor controller [09:55] I want to know where it's connected so that I can communicate with it [09:55] SleepyTurtle: well I have never worked with that type of network bus, the netstat --listen would just catch the port being open on your host machine for a daemon [10:00] SleepyTurtle: controller card or connected by some cable or so ? [10:04] SimonNL: connected by CAN [10:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus serial [10:04] SimonNL: CAN bus [10:05] SimonNL: yes === vital is now known as Guest64407 [10:08] https://www.csselectronics.com/screen/page/simple-intro-to-can-bus/language/en interesting === Guest64407 is now known as vital_ === vital_ is now known as _vital === _vital is now known as vital_ === vital_ is now known as vitalik === vitalik is now known as vital_ === vital_ is now known as _vital === _vital is now known as vital_ [10:16] SimonNL: I want to know the device name [10:20] SleepyTurtle: search for an app that possibly provides that for you [10:23] quick question: installing things by using "pip", are there any security issues? Am i downloading binaries that can be infected etc? [10:32] MrM1st: if you install packages from the ubuntu official repos, and system stays up to date you probably fine [10:32] MrM1st: AFAIK you're giving them /some/ level of trust. IDK how easy or difficult it would be for someone who maintains a respected pip resource to turn malicious and simply change it for everyone to update to something bad. [10:34] Did happen in the past: https://www.zdnet.com/article/twelve-malicious-python-libraries-found-and-removed-from-pypi/ [10:36] privism: wow, and the desired effect of those sounds pretty serious as well. I wasn't sure how much pip could change outside of python things. [10:38] MrM1st: also don't pipe wget/curl to Bash, unless you trust them with your life. [10:39] SchrodingersScat: Hehe.. I know :) [10:41] I still feel pretty safe using pip to get things like youtube-dl [10:41] SchrodingersScat: I tend to use git instead [10:47] j #gentoo [10:47] my bad [10:47] get [10:48] test [10:49] where are u [10:49] de_alka: this is not the place to run tests, nor for social chat. [10:49] oh,ok. i am sorry [10:51] tomreyn:can u pm me? [10:51] hi, when i put usb stick into usb it is automaticly monuted. How to change this settings? [10:52] their says,this not place for social chat [10:53] de_alka: you can PM me. [10:53] konfucjusz: when you go to 'Settings' do you see a 'Removable Drives and Media' option? I have a checkbox there that toggles auto-mounting. [10:54] konfucjusz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences [11:09] I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. When I try to remove (uninstall) adwaita-icon-theme, packages like zathura and zathura-pdf-poppler are also removed by default. Is there any command-line to not remove zathura and zathura-pdf-poppler or otherwise I need to reinstall it again? [11:11] ndayalan: if those zathura packages are removed as a result of removing adwaita-icon-theme, then this would suggest they depend on the icon theme package [11:12] tomreyn: does it mean it should always present if I intend to use zathura [11:14] ndayalan: it means that you will not be able to have zathura (and zathura-pdf-poppler) installed if you don't also install adwaita-icon-theme, yes. [11:22] ndayalan: so, for a better explanation: "zathura" depends on "libgtk-3-0". "libgtk-3-0" depends on "adwaita-icon-theme". so you cannot have "zathura" installed without also having "adwaita-icon-theme" installed. you can install "apt-rdepends" to examine such indirect package dependencies. [11:25] 'r' standard for recursive here (there is also a command "apt rdepends" (without the hyphon), but there the 'r' stands for "reverse", enabling you to tell which packages dpend (directly only) on the given package. so that's something rather different really. [11:25] Can someone help me see can devices connected to my computer? [11:25] tomreyn: thank you and now I understood [11:26] SleepyTurtle: can you provide more context? [11:27] tomreyn: I have a CAN device connected to my computer. How can I see it and read what it says? [11:27] I'm using canopen and socketcan [11:27] I've tried following instructions online but always end up with Cannot find device "can0" [11:29] SleepyTurtle: hmm, i'm not really into working with those, but maybe we can work it out. do you see 'can0' listed on your systemd journal? which ubuntu release and kernel version are you running? [11:29] tomreyn: I'm sorry, I don't quite follow. How do I check my journal? [11:30] let's start with this: which ubuntu release and kernel version are you running? nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";) [11:30] tomreyn: I'm using 4.15.0-48-generic [11:30] if you run these series of commands it will return a url with all the needed info [11:30] tomreyn: https://termbin.com/8wlc [11:31] ok, you run Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS with the HWE kernel. [11:31] on amd64 [11:31] to get the systemd journal, use: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:32] tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ocba [11:33] you use Network Manager for managing network connections, and it detects can0 as an 802.3 ethernet device [11:34] may 13 13:08:46 eralbot0 NetworkManager[777]: [1557745726.8828] guessed connection type (can0) = 802-3-ethernet [11:35] SleepyTurtle: what does nmcli d say for can0 in the other columns? [11:35] tomreyn: How can I check that? [11:36] you run this command in a terminal and inspect its output [11:37] if I run nmcli I just see wifi [11:37] connected [11:37] and if you run "nmcli d"? [11:37] 2 ethernet connections unavailable [11:37] I changed a link name but ls -t show that I also modified the file to which that link pointed - does it make sense? [11:37] and a loopback [11:37] tomreyn: yeah, sorry, that's what I see running nmcli d [11:38] ok [11:38] so the link was not changed accoriding to ls -t but the files under the link yes [11:38] SleepyTurtle: how do you intend to use the 'can' device? [11:38]