| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: The Launchpad team was more than happy to raise the limit on both our autobuilds and the backports. | 02:52 |
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| OvenWerks | cool | 05:43 |
| OvenWerks | It was more work that I thought to make pulse bridges able to be more than one :) Still have to test though | 05:45 |
| OvenWerks | only the first bridge auto connects to a device if specified. (need to check what happens if none is) | 06:50 |
| m_ad[m] | great, i read about the space issue the other day | 07:20 |
| OvenWerks | found another bug on the way to pulse bridge number... I think it is fixed now :) | 17:19 |
| Eickmeyer | Sweet. Is there any way we could allow custom naming for the pulse bridge(s)? Like, on a separate tab? That way, whatever application is assigned to whatever bridge could be named by the user to make routing in Jack easier. | 17:22 |
| * Eickmeyer noticed a new Calf release right around the same time as 19.04, will be looking at upgrading the package, putting it in the backports, and notifying Ross for upload to Debian/sync to Ubuntu. | 17:24 | |
| OvenWerks | So does that mean you have tried the new -controls? | 19:12 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure how many pulse bridges you expect people to use ;) I allow up to 9 and already think that is overkill. I expect one set for skype and one set for all the rest of the desktop will be all that anyone ever uses. | 19:16 |
| Eickmeyer | I agree, 9 is overkill. Where I'm at is to help people with knowing which pulse bridge is which without too much thought. | 19:16 |
| OvenWerks | The problem I see with naming, is that in order to to rename, all ports get deleted and remade. So if someone gets everything set up and then changes a name, all of there connections get lost. | 19:17 |
| Eickmeyer | Ohhhh... I see. Yeah, that could be bad. | 19:17 |
| OvenWerks | I picked 9 because that is the limit for one digit ;) | 19:18 |
| Eickmeyer | hehe | 19:18 |
| OvenWerks | disconnecting ports would get called a bug by at least some people | 19:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Just tried it. Selected 6 bridges. Only came back with 1. | 19:21 |
| OvenWerks | Right now I am not saving any info about bridges (other than number) and rely on system calls to clear all of them. With pulse it is hard to remove a single jack sourse/sink as you have to read through all of them and find out what the record number of that module is rather than just removing by name. | 19:21 |
| Eickmeyer | 1 stereo, that is. | 19:21 |
| OvenWerks | you have to logout/in or do: dbus-send --type=signal / org.ubuntustudio.control.event.quit_signal | 19:22 |
| OvenWerks | other wise the autojack you are running is the old one. | 19:22 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh yes. | 19:23 |
| OvenWerks | We can't do this from install because it is running as the user not the system and the install is done as the system. | 19:24 |
| Eickmeyer | Ah, I see. Something to add to ubuntustudio-system --fix? | 19:25 |
| OvenWerks | We could have the ping back changed from "pong_signal" to "V2_signal" | 19:25 |
| Eickmeyer | I have no idea what that does. | 19:26 |
| OvenWerks | I look for the pong signal in -controls to tell that autojack is running, if I look for a v2 signal the old version will not send that and so will send a quite_signal and then restart autojack. | 19:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, that's not a bad idea. | 19:28 |
| Eickmeyer | A little hacky, but it gets the job done. | 19:28 |
| OvenWerks | So every time I change autojack I can up the version in both autojack and -controls | 19:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, that works. | 19:29 |
| OvenWerks | Next question.... the mixer start button... where should it be placed? on the bottom with the other buttons? (start, stop and apply) | 19:30 |
| OvenWerks | or under the jack status | 19:30 |
| OvenWerks | Or have a drop down that allows starting the mixer with whatever device they choose? | 19:31 |
| OvenWerks | yet another question: (or statement) It seems there are some devices (or subdevices) that jack can not start. | 19:33 |
| Eickmeyer | The start, stop, and apply buttons look fine where they are. | 19:34 |
| OvenWerks | For example, I have an AuodioPCI (Early 90s?) where AudioPCI,0,0 works fine but AudioPCI,1,0 is not accessable. | 19:34 |
| OvenWerks | Yes they look fine where they are should I add a 4th button to start the QASmixer in the same row? | 19:35 |
| Eickmeyer | Add two buttons below: one for QASmixer, the other vor PAVUcontrol. | 19:35 |
| Eickmeyer | *for | 19:35 |
| Eickmeyer | Because, if we're going to have multiple Jack bridges, people are going to want to route their applications. | 19:36 |
| Eickmeyer | By that same token, having one for Carla wouldn't be a bad idea either since that gives them access to their audio rack and patchbay for Jack. | 19:37 |
| OvenWerks | I will see what I can do... | 22:10 |
| OvenWerks | Maybe two rows then. | 22:10 |
| Eickmeyer | Cool | 22:29 |
| OvenWerks | Two rows means that one row controls Controls and the other starts extra stuff | 22:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. | 22:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Of course, by that same token, jack-mixer, but this can become a slippery slope. | 22:30 |
| OvenWerks | It does mean adding things to the depends... | 22:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Not hard. | 22:31 |
| OvenWerks | Well no but that means installing installer installs at least 4 extra applications | 22:31 |
| Eickmeyer | True. Can we have -controls look for if the applications are installed and then add the buttons dynamically? | 22:32 |
| Eickmeyer | Seeing if the file exists in /usr/bin would be one way. | 22:32 |
| OvenWerks | right. | 22:32 |
| OvenWerks | I don't know, I have been unable to make a button invisible so far. | 22:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Then what if it was simply disabled unless the corresponding application was in /usr/bin? | 22:33 |
| OvenWerks | How can we make the problem obvious to the user? | 22:34 |
| OvenWerks | If file not exist, open installer instead :P | 22:34 |
| Eickmeyer | If the button is disabled, the text should be gray. A help button would be one way to figure that out. | 22:34 |
| Eickmeyer | Another idea is to add apturl and point to a website with icons that, when clicked-on, open an "apt://" url that installs the application using apturl. | 22:35 |
| Eickmeyer | Xubuntu has something like that. | 22:36 |
| OvenWerks | I think one step at a time. | 22:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Gotcha. I'm going too fast. | 22:37 |
| * Eickmeyer hits the brakes | 22:37 | |
| OvenWerks | I will add the three buttons and depends for now. In the Studio they will just work. | 22:37 |
| Eickmeyer | True. | 22:37 |
| Eickmeyer | back in a bit | 22:38 |
| Eickmeyer | Okay, I'm back. | 23:16 |
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